I often ponder this topic as well and enjoyed hearing your version. We think the key is focus, and many people of this type definitely have a propensity for that. Break life down into manageable periods whether it's a year, quarters for a business, or anything that works for someone. Choose one main thing to focus on with full energy and a couple smaller others. Then move onto the next phase with adjusted goals, etc. This way, we can accomplish a lot and have balance and freedom in the long run. There are definitely limits in life and mind/willpower will not eliminate those, but it can be hard to accept this for someone who trusts their own mind and has even mastered using (and creating) more objective evidence to support their perceptions and motives. Some of that drive to put all/most energies into one thing and minimize other areas is sometimes just anxiety. I think a "strong mind" is often a brain/mind prone to obsessions, which can definitely drive what we want, including not-so-constructive choices and behaviors. I agree that some basic things should never be neglected, like health and rest. We do need a certain amount of balance to incorporate those. I've learned this in the hard way, exactly because I was so prone to focus on mental goals and an eccentric lifestyle when younger. Thinking in terms of those Jungian functions... I think all of them have value for every person, and it can elevate happiness to develop and use them beyond the preferred or problem areas. I see that as creating more balance, and the MBTI is quite helpful for that, but many use it to mostly flaunt and reinforce what they are already strong at by default, and claim they don't have the other functions in them. IMO that is not real limitation, just limiting beliefs... why stop there, especially as a type so geared to improvement and the larger picture? Life is short, but long enough to reach a pretty high level of integration and freedom. BTW, at one point I thought doing solo, freelance consulting from home was the perfect profession for me, but it became very limited after trying it full-time for ~a year. You never truly develop your own inventions and projects in that way, it's more just being an external brain for other organizations/people. Now I do it on the side, to finance my main project, learn new skills, and network. Self-employment is still ideal, but prefer it as a small business entrepreneur with a team. It also challenges me in more areas. We can do many different things over a lifetime, I think it's even more fun as a developmental process vs. trying too many at once. Some activities require good timing and context that need to be created and reached before we can actualize sufficiently. And some generally highly valued things may just not be of interest, e.g. family in my case. So if there is any "secret" I apply, it's a high level of selectivity and (sometimes slow) building processes. Love your personal definitions of success, I think that's the healthiest and most fulfilling in the long run. Do what you like, are good at, and the world needs. Even people with similar personalities can be very diverse!
From how I see it, the feeling of "I should do this..." and "I could achieve this..." and the devastating feeling of getting behind by not following all this stuff that would make me achieve more things in life, this actually is Te. It's the feeling of getting behind by not doing what should be done, that motivates you to do things by punishing you with a bad feeling if you don't follow. As far as i have noticed the difference between INTJs and ENTJs is that INTJs are limited to their Energy and Fi. I still have the feeling of I could achieve all this stuff, by just doing this or that, but it would take so much energy and it would include so much stuff I don't actually like doing, because of Energy or values. Stronger Te Types tend to ignore Fi (do I really want to do those things to achieve X) in favor of fulfilling those needs to not feel unproductive. They also tend to have more energy or drive, probably because the punishment is a lot harder when not doing it, because Fi tends to be ignored. So in sum you could say, that INTJ and ENTJ both feel the need to do all this stuff, but INTJs are way more picky about what they actually work on. By choosing stuff where the process is more aligned with our Fi, we also tend to really enjoy the stuff we are working on and thus we put way more time and work into those areas than Te doms, who just see the "I have to be there / achieve" but actually not liking what they do. Ni in these cases tells us the best way to achieve those Te goals, since it internally rules out the best path from all perspectives. INTJs probably use way more time ruminating on this path to put as little work possible to achieve the most, whereas the drive of Te Doms motivates them to get in action faster because it just feels so unproductive to not take action and work towards your Te goal. What is it for you that drives you? From your videos I got the impression that you are very Te driven. For me, I learned fast and hard that I can't focus only on the outcome, because my Fi pulls me out of it and gets me to question what I am doing and why I am doing it.
Imho, being an amazing parent is the best goal one could ever have. All goals cam revolve around that. I exercised using body weights while my children were in the room or I walked or rode bikes with them. I became a child care provider so I could raise them myself. Almost all of my actions were based around raising my children to be fully functioning adults.
Hmm... I can "Te Se everything into existence I put my mind to" but no, I am limited by my body & mind, and my Te Se energy is limited and need to recharge from time to time, and be realist. Since less people talk to me and less often, and that I comment less, I have more time to focus on my projects (video, writing, painting...) It's interesting how many INTJ we think the same, that "we have strong mind" - or maybe are we all biased by our function stack ? I am disappointed if I accomplish something at 50% - it's all or nothing for me, 0 or 100% There is also the high Te, that can give us the impression : "No matter how much I accomplish, it's never enough" Why we want to do or accomplish so much things ? more than what our body & mind are able to do. The challenge & goals I like the most are the ones I didn't set, the things I did without goal : my almost 300 videos, 1,5 year of meditation everyday (I didn't miss a day), read books. When a goal is achieved, often I don't get the dopamine - I am just : ok it's done, my mind is already on the next thing, project or goal, no feelings expressed - or I think : what's the point ? - or a project is not finished, I already think to the next. "Success" is different for everyone I think. Probably the most important : Eat, sleep, be ourselves, and do thing that we like, passionate us, fulfill us, make us happy. Enjoy the present, everything is temporary. Thank for these 30 min - Same as you, sometimes I have a lot to say. If we had 30 hours in the day, would we accomplish more things ? or we would do everything more slowly ? or more sleep, more time for relations ?
i think you should change your perspective of your definition for Success, goal or target. i used to do that all my life but one thing i learned is instead of seeing your future success, or goal as a target to reach, you take them as just your direction/navigation. and instead you focus on doing and acomplishing those small actions and milestones you planned day in and day out to achieve that big success. When you accomplish these tasks you know will lead to your definition of success everyday, you feel like you are leaving that dream. for example, instead of setting your goal as 170 pounds and working towards that, which you know after you reach that goal you will lose motivation etc..... what you can do is set the 170 pound as the direction you are going then plan your action s as a 170 pound man do. the exercises, the eating plan etc. . . then you do these actions starting now. eventually your goal/target wont be the thing that will drive you.... its these small day to day task that will give you those things.
I often ponder this topic as well and enjoyed hearing your version. We think the key is focus, and many people of this type definitely have a propensity for that. Break life down into manageable periods whether it's a year, quarters for a business, or anything that works for someone. Choose one main thing to focus on with full energy and a couple smaller others. Then move onto the next phase with adjusted goals, etc. This way, we can accomplish a lot and have balance and freedom in the long run.
There are definitely limits in life and mind/willpower will not eliminate those, but it can be hard to accept this for someone who trusts their own mind and has even mastered using (and creating) more objective evidence to support their perceptions and motives. Some of that drive to put all/most energies into one thing and minimize other areas is sometimes just anxiety. I think a "strong mind" is often a brain/mind prone to obsessions, which can definitely drive what we want, including not-so-constructive choices and behaviors.
I agree that some basic things should never be neglected, like health and rest. We do need a certain amount of balance to incorporate those. I've learned this in the hard way, exactly because I was so prone to focus on mental goals and an eccentric lifestyle when younger.
Thinking in terms of those Jungian functions... I think all of them have value for every person, and it can elevate happiness to develop and use them beyond the preferred or problem areas. I see that as creating more balance, and the MBTI is quite helpful for that, but many use it to mostly flaunt and reinforce what they are already strong at by default, and claim they don't have the other functions in them. IMO that is not real limitation, just limiting beliefs... why stop there, especially as a type so geared to improvement and the larger picture? Life is short, but long enough to reach a pretty high level of integration and freedom.
BTW, at one point I thought doing solo, freelance consulting from home was the perfect profession for me, but it became very limited after trying it full-time for ~a year. You never truly develop your own inventions and projects in that way, it's more just being an external brain for other organizations/people. Now I do it on the side, to finance my main project, learn new skills, and network. Self-employment is still ideal, but prefer it as a small business entrepreneur with a team. It also challenges me in more areas.
We can do many different things over a lifetime, I think it's even more fun as a developmental process vs. trying too many at once. Some activities require good timing and context that need to be created and reached before we can actualize sufficiently. And some generally highly valued things may just not be of interest, e.g. family in my case. So if there is any "secret" I apply, it's a high level of selectivity and (sometimes slow) building processes.
Love your personal definitions of success, I think that's the healthiest and most fulfilling in the long run. Do what you like, are good at, and the world needs. Even people with similar personalities can be very diverse!
From how I see it, the feeling of "I should do this..." and "I could achieve this..." and the devastating feeling of getting behind by not following all this stuff that would make me achieve more things in life, this actually is Te. It's the feeling of getting behind by not doing what should be done, that motivates you to do things by punishing you with a bad feeling if you don't follow.
As far as i have noticed the difference between INTJs and ENTJs is that INTJs are limited to their Energy and Fi. I still have the feeling of I could achieve all this stuff, by just doing this or that, but it would take so much energy and it would include so much stuff I don't actually like doing, because of Energy or values.
Stronger Te Types tend to ignore Fi (do I really want to do those things to achieve X) in favor of fulfilling those needs to not feel unproductive. They also tend to have more energy or drive, probably because the punishment is a lot harder when not doing it, because Fi tends to be ignored.
So in sum you could say, that INTJ and ENTJ both feel the need to do all this stuff, but INTJs are way more picky about what they actually work on.
By choosing stuff where the process is more aligned with our Fi, we also tend to really enjoy the stuff we are working on and thus we put way more time and work into those areas than Te doms, who just see the "I have to be there / achieve" but actually not liking what they do.
Ni in these cases tells us the best way to achieve those Te goals, since it internally rules out the best path from all perspectives. INTJs probably use way more time ruminating on this path to put as little work possible to achieve the most, whereas the drive of Te Doms motivates them to get in action faster because it just feels so unproductive to not take action and work towards your Te goal.
What is it for you that drives you?
From your videos I got the impression that you are very Te driven. For me, I learned fast and hard that I can't focus only on the outcome, because my Fi pulls me out of it and gets me to question what I am doing and why I am doing it.
Imho, being an amazing parent is the best goal one could ever have. All goals cam revolve around that. I exercised using body weights while my children were in the room or I walked or rode bikes with them. I became a child care provider so I could raise them myself. Almost all of my actions were based around raising my children to be fully functioning adults.
Hmm... I can "Te Se everything into existence I put my mind to" but no, I am limited by my body & mind, and my Te Se energy is limited and need to recharge from time to time, and be realist.
Since less people talk to me and less often, and that I comment less, I have more time to focus on my projects (video, writing, painting...)
It's interesting how many INTJ we think the same, that "we have strong mind" - or maybe are we all biased by our function stack ?
I am disappointed if I accomplish something at 50% - it's all or nothing for me, 0 or 100%
There is also the high Te, that can give us the impression : "No matter how much I accomplish, it's never enough"
Why we want to do or accomplish so much things ? more than what our body & mind are able to do.
The challenge & goals I like the most are the ones I didn't set, the things I did without goal : my almost 300 videos, 1,5 year of meditation everyday (I didn't miss a day), read books.
When a goal is achieved, often I don't get the dopamine - I am just : ok it's done, my mind is already on the next thing, project or goal, no feelings expressed - or I think : what's the point ? - or a project is not finished, I already think to the next.
"Success" is different for everyone I think.
Probably the most important : Eat, sleep, be ourselves, and do thing that we like, passionate us, fulfill us, make us happy.
Enjoy the present, everything is temporary.
Thank for these 30 min - Same as you, sometimes I have a lot to say.
If we had 30 hours in the day, would we accomplish more things ? or we would do everything more slowly ? or more sleep, more time for relations ?
i think you should change your perspective of your definition for Success, goal or target. i used to do that all my life but one thing i learned is instead of seeing your future success, or goal as a target to reach, you take them as just your direction/navigation. and instead you focus on doing and acomplishing those small actions and milestones you planned day in and day out to achieve that big success. When you accomplish these tasks you know will lead to your definition of success everyday, you feel like you are leaving that dream.
for example, instead of setting your goal as 170 pounds and working towards that, which you know after you reach that goal you will lose motivation etc..... what you can do is set the 170 pound as the direction you are going then plan your action s as a 170 pound man do. the exercises, the eating plan etc. . . then you do these actions starting now. eventually your goal/target wont be the thing that will drive you.... its these small day to day task that will give you those things.
i haven't tried this method but it seems like it would work. "plan your actions as a 170 pound man would do" is a nice way to frame it.
@@GhostofJung good luck