It really is the last of its kind. Same with the Titan. I love my 22 frontier and I was a Toyota Fanboy for YEARS. Nissan took Toyota’s game plan of it ain’t broke then don’t fix it. Toyota has copied Ford and Chevy.
Yep, more to break. I had a Titan from 2004 to 2019 and the stock V8 was 305 HP. I Now have a 2019 Ram with the 5.7 Hemi, 398 hp, no turbos. I fear now all manufacturers will only equip 1/2 ton pk with turbocharged motors. Theirs not much gain with the mpgs, and may be slightly more powerful. The V8s are dependable and has been around for decades. Also I dont trust GM 4 bangers, especially the turbo in the 1/2 Chevy.
GM engineers also said the ignition key was not a problem. Look at that recall. In the 70, GM engineers thought it was a great idea to take a gas engine and put diesel heads on it for the Cadillac. What I'm saying is GM engineers will say anything to get people to purchase a vehicle, and to be honest so will all engineers for any manufacture. So don't lead a pile of BS on what an engineer at the company says. But, research, it was NOT built as a future diesel. I will say, it was used for many years, pretty good engine.
@@elche1976 you cant even make an attempt at saying the Chevy will outlast the Nissan , its physically impossible that pile of shit will make year 5 without major expenses. Iv owned Chevy my whole life with an aggressive maitenance history on each Chevy vehicle to the point of it being absurd. The second you turn your back and the babysitting stops they fall apart, every time, the Nissan will run for extreme periods of time with zero to minimal maitenance required, Im sure you understand substandard engineering leads to a substandard product.
@Panther Martin77 sounds like a lot of excuses for your crappy driving. I seem to be able to do it with chevy, Honda, toyota... all last. Like they say... a poor pianist blames their music on the piano. Maybe you need to get better at taking care of things instead of blaming the object for you being terrible.
The reliability is there. You have no data to back that up. Just "I think". I went from a Taco 2012 TRD Off Road to a Ranger Lariat FX4.. First the powertrain is night and day better. I live in Wyoming and at elevation the turbo doesn't turn into a dog. Second my Taco had 2 warranty fixes in first 15 K (AC went out and leaking shock). Ranger at 30K. Zero issues. Nothing. Like new. I will never ever ever go back to NA engine. The torgue is insane and so much better. Nothing against Nissan, but they can keep it.
@@drn13355 As a Former Ford service advice advisor a can tell Turbos is not for everyone, if you know how to drive it, you are good, but the new trend is put a turbo in small engine and that's will be okay. By my experience I know, but once again it's work for you that's perfect, and just go by all the problems that I saw in the road 🤷♂️.
@Phil Easler Phil, I have a turbo in my Maverick AWD and it runs great. I posted some videos on my channel with a full stop on a steep icy road in Park City, and driving again with minimal slippage.
I love my Pro 4X, but still was wondering if I was going to trade it in for a new Colorado. Now that I know what the pricing is, I would be an absolute dummy to want to trade my Frontier for a Colorado. Besides, the quality and reliability of the Frontier just don't compare to the Colorado. Frontier all the way!
The colorado is actually cheaper the the frontier. Both the trail boss and Z71 are cheaper then the pro 4x and both are 4WD. The only ones they will be more expensive are the ZR2 and ZR2 bison.
@@chriskolaska897 You forgot to compare the equipment that comes with them. You will never find a Colorado that's fully equipped in an off-roady version for the price of a Frontier!
@@chriskolaska897Not happening.😂 you won't get a Colorado equally equipped to the Frontier for less than $55000 not to mention Nissan always has banger lease deals unlike the Colorado.
I just got a '23 Pro4X, the ride is great, getting 19+ in town. Fit & finish (seats) exceed the Taco by a long shot. Had an H3 that was basically a Colorado drivetrain. Shop queen, bled my wallet. The turbo 4 seems really cool, but there are many 1 million Mile frontiers. How many GM trucks say that? [ my first truck was a new '89 Chevy S10, I'm not a brand loyal koolaid drinker for an any brand, just a realist, Japan makes reliable trucks]
The H3 had the 1st green colorado drive train in it which i agree was crap. The 2nd gens we're a huge improvement and are petty reliable as mines been pretty good to me.
As a mechanic, I've always believed that Toyota's vehicles were a notch or several above the other makes. I was waiting and waiting for the new 24 Tacoma's to come out and when they finally were on the dealerships lot .... I pulled the trigger on a 24 Frontier Pro 4x instead. Just can't accept a little 2.4 turbo as the only powerplant. Love my tac green Pro 4x, NA 310 hp V6, and thousands under MSRP to boot.
Pretty much agree. My thoughts are if it does not burn diesel fuel, a turbo is a scary engine; especially, when made by GM. (And I have owned a lot of GM trucks but unless a diesel all have been NA). Other problem with the Colorado is the integration with the info screen with items such as headlamp control, etc. I don't want to sit and push the screen three of four times just to manually turn on the headlamps. I want a solid switch on the left of the steering column on the dash panel or the turn signal stalk. I'll also state, that us old-timers appreciate hydraulic assist PS; especially, if on dirt trails. The EPS is for non-performance cars.
Frontier, the 9spd is so smooth and I’m not sold on Chevy’s claim that they fixed all the issues with the 8spd. Sometimes old school is the way to go especially with all the manufacturers going to turbocharged engines.
@@woofman4796 yeah their one of the few manufacturers that is trying to stay away from this electrification craze but I think the government has too much control with the epa and forcing these crazy cafe standards
@@Snappydadshoes i watched a video by this same guy about the tundra a few months back , he mentioned the tacoma , he said all new toyotas are going to be hybrid , standard , unless he spoke wrong or i heard wrong , but i'm not reading lips yet ,, who knows , i love the tacoma , i prefer all gas though , no diesels , stupid def fluid
This is the first video that I've seen of yours, and I have to say how happy I am to hear you discuss reliability. It doesn't matter how well appointed a vehicle is if it's going to leave its owner standing on the side of the road two weeks after the warranty expires. I've seen so many comparisons done in videos that completely ignore quality and reliability. Thank you for making this a part of your analysis.
Reliability is hard to always talk about with brand new vehicles and new powertrains. Where possible I do bring it up though since it is a key part of the buying decision. Glad you enjoyed this one!
My biggest gripe with the Colorado is the obnoxious package dependencies. You can't just add certain ones without forcing you into others, and if you don't get some of them, you don't get *standard features* (like Andrew on FLT found out mistakenly omitting cruise control). This is usually the case with most makes/models, but Chevy brought it to a new madness level.
I think I am leaning towards the 2024 frontier pro 4x. I'd really like to get a lift with bigger tires for off road trail riding. The Colorado, especially the trail boss looks really rugged, which I wish the Frontier had more of that exterior design. My one big, huge gripe with the Colorado Trail Boss, there is no led headlights and not even a led fog light that comes with the truck. For a off road trail riding truck, I feel that chevy just cheeped out on this with their customers. So, I think I may buy the Frontier Pro 4X over the Colorado and the new Tacoma.
I had 2018 SV, would only get 12-13 mpg in town, 19-20 on the highway. Loved the truck hated the mpg. Was going to trade it in ‘22, dealer was marking up $11.5K I walked away.
If the next-Gen Colorado is equal to or better than the 2nd Gen, then 100% Colorado. My 2017 has been a champ. Bought it in 2017 after my Frontier transmission failed.
@DevilDog53 he said a 17 and i did as well and mine crapped out at 45k miles between having to do the brakes every 10k miles and going through 6 sets of brake pads and 4 sets of rotors and having Nissan's engineers come out an go through an replaced the entire brake system and still had the same issue then the rear differential goes out at and this is an in 45k miles lol.
@Bikes0420 lmfao no, unfortunately, that was not the case buddy, and i wish it was, lol. It didn't matter how i drove. The breaks would go out and never once hauled anything with that truck. I had the entire break system redone, and it still happened, so i got it lemon lawed. Truck was a real cheap piece of shit as everything on that truck was really, really cheaply made. Hell, my driver's side seat was almost fully worn out at 45k miles.
I owned a 2005, 2019 and my 2023 SV. Mine have all been primarily for off road here in the pine barrens and on the beach surf fishing. The new one is very capable both on and off road and it will turn without needing a landing zone.
Almost $60k for a GMC Denali vs Frontier maxed out at $48k, I will take that extra money in my pocket and deal with cameras not being super HD. I do like the new interior on the GMC but still not worth the cost in my opinion.
It's good to hear honest comments especially about anything general motors I work for general motors for over 25 years and watched them deteriorate, and experiment with the public, even though I'm not a fan of Nissan, you change my mind about purchasing a new Colorado I'm not a fan of turbocharged engines, keep up the good honest commentary.
I worked for GM Arlington Truck and SUV plant for 31 years and as times changed the build process became very innovative and bullet proof over the years, everything is close tolerance and the product won't move out of station unless all the computer programmed torque parameters are accomplished. You can't make a mistake without the build system letting you know about it. All vehicles are made with robotics and safeguards to prevent mistakes in today's production plants. Basically all auto products are pretty close to the same quality because of work practices and innovative, dummy proof build systems. So please don't tell me that one brand is built better than another brand. GM, Toyota, Nissan and Ford would not be in bussiness unless they built decent quality products. It all comes down to design and personal preferences in what your idea of the perfect truck is for YOU.
At the 11 min time stamp you wandered why GM allows you to still "build and price" a 2022 Colorado, because they will not make one anymore but you can spec one out and still search and price a similar specced 2022 Colorado out of current inventory that dealers still have
I recently got a 2023 Nissan frontier pro- 4X boulder gray with all the options except for the leather and sunroof the reason I went with frontier is because of the reliability also, it has a lot more room than he made it look in this video.
I traded a 2019 Ranger for my 2023 Pro 4x . The back seats are a lot larger than the Ranger . I looked at the new Colorado but wasn't as impressive to me as the Nissan was.
Last year it would have been a 100% Frontier. Now with the Colorado refresh in and out, it is a very hard decision. I think the electric-steering and lane-keep-assist,... leans me towards the Colorado. Price may make the Frontier the easy winner.
American car companies sure do put the boots to us, I have a 3500 ram diesel which works good and I like it, but after that its asian for sure. frontier is a nice truck and seems like good quality. GM is overpriced and not sure of the quality now days. probably all ok so buy what you like
Great video! Both are on my short list. My biggest issue with the Frontier is payload. I will be towing a 2,900 lb camper and camping gear in the bed and back seat. The Colorado seems to offer more real world payload (it also tows more by at least 1,000 lbs). However, reliability is very important to me. I am impressed with the numbers from the Colorado’s turbocharged engine, but is it reliable? Is that 8 speed tranny in the Colorado reliable? I like that the Frontier gives you options with the bed length. The deciding factors for me: price, reliability, and function (payload).
@@patricklachance3187 You will exceed payload by quite a bit. Tongue weight alone will put you almost at payload limit, plus passengers, stuff in the bed of the truck, etc.
@@wwz1011 Total load with my family, the gear and the trailer was 6300. I drove about 9000km through Canada and the US: flawless. I almost didn’t feel it.
The 2.7t (IMO) has done well for a turbocharged engine. When compared to the V8's that is currently in the Silverado. Particularly the V8's that utilize both the AFM and DFM. The 2.7t has actually done better than the V8's. Despite the 2.7t utilizing the AFM as well. Tyranny is a different story. I haven't heard too much about it in terms of reliability, in the Silverado after the 2022/2023 update. GM has stated that they fixed the issue with the previous gen 8 spd with the new 8 spd coming out in the 2023 Colorado. But that only goes as far as when it comes to real world driving. But hindsight if the 2.7t is doing better than the current V8's, all using the AFM or DFM. If you were to do a AFM delete on the 2.7t it could probably do better in terms of reliability. The only questionable part is the tranny.
Owned 2005 Colorado Crew Cab for 16 years, it was my favorite vehicle. But when I decided to buy a new truck recently, I found that the Frontier PRO-4X was actually more like my old favorite than the new Colorado. On the Colorado test drive, I kept banging my head getting in and out. I fit better in the Frontier, plus I got way more for less.
If I had to buy one of these tomorrow I would go with the Frontier. You can still get it with a long bed and to me that's huge as I haul a lot of stuff in my bed often. I really don't like the trend of trucks to only come with short-beds.
@@marcpikas2859 got a 20 yr old f250 for that. Although it is a pain getting into a gas station and grocery shopping. More of a farm truck in its last days
I like the Colorado looks all around...by far in my opinion the best looking truck out there, inside and out. Frontier is nice looking, but the back seat is so small that kills it a bit for me. I am worried about the 2.7 in the chevy but I think if I were to be getting one I would probably take my chances with the Chevy unless I could get the Frontier for WAY less comparably equipped.... I tend to go lower trims so I would have to compare that way
I have last model colorado and love the experience my first truck but it lacks a fair amount of tech which new one has and a huge upgrade in the interior so ordered it a few weeks ago.
@Darth Bane what model do you have cause I've got a 16 Z71 and completely satisfied with the tech it has. Maybe it's just me since I switched over from a frontier but I think the tech it has is pretty good and up to date.
Love my new frontier Pro-X with all trimmings. Just filled in rear frontier logo with black 3d logos to offset the Boulder grey and waiting on the grey logos to put on the black hood logo. And replacing the “pro-x” emblem on the bed with “nismo”. And just ordered the Nismo hood graphic. $375 is a lot for basically a big adhesive sticker, but sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do. Japanese trucks are sick af!!
All day long I would buy the Nissan if it was the old hard body 4 cy engine ,I personally knew and myself 6-7 hardbodies that have went 330 k - 700k on same engine !
Still driving a 1987 Hardbody with Z24i. Slow and steady. Probably is everyone else wants big HP numbers now even if they don't need it. But Nissan does make their V6 engines very good. The 3.8 in the GTR-35 has 600 hp stock, and it actually holds up well. The old Hardbody VG 30 was very solid too. Just had to remember the timing belt.
The new Colorado is super sharp. The interior is refreshed with that huge screen and the way the engine is built with some diesel like aspects I’m going Chevy for sure
@@markashby8219 if you payed attn or go online you will see that you can upgrade to the high output engine for about 1,400 bucks so yea that's not really a big deal. Also Nissan's track record for their trucks is not very good. They're built very poorly and don't last.
@@chriskolaska897 you willing to bet money that your Turbo 4 banger Colorado last longer than a NA V6 Frontier? If so, you’re gonna lose that money Chief 😂 tell me you don’t know cars without telling me you don’t know cars.
Frontier all day. The cooling system alone in the Colorado 2.7 is too complex! The Frontier is cheaper, has a 100k mile bumper to bumper warranty and is almost guaranteed to be more reliable, especially in the long term. Lots of mileage in a short time is nothing, how it will hold up ober the course of 10-15 yrs will really define a vehicles reliability.
I checked the GMC. Liked the truck, know the engine is good, but price was almost 50k OTD! Ended up buying two Frontiers, one 7k under MRSP and other with leather others upgrades for 10k of MRSP! ❤❤❤❤
2017 Pro-4x owner from new. The most reliable, well built (no rattles/squeaks/broken parts) vehicle I have ever owned. Great off road, good for highway (comfort is good). Easily park it in my garage. Lots of power and torque. Three things I dislike 1) gas mileage isn’t great but it’s a 4 wheel drive v6 2) turning radius is terrible 3) original tires (Hankook Dynapro AT-M) weren’t great for wet and snow. Terrible on ice. I swapped them out for K02’s I plan on keeping this truck for as long as I can. Love it. Hopefully the new models are just as good.
Been the 4 cylinder GM turbo route. They ignored easily correctable problems for well over a decade in the cruise and compact SUV market. Hope you like buying new intake manifold and valve cover every 20,000 miles when the pcv system blows out. Also my dad and brother both had Colorados and got rid of them due to transmission problems early on. GM says they've got it fixed but they'll say anything you want to hear to get you to buy a truck. Show me the reliability for my money. So far I've got no serious complaints out of my 22 frontier. It just does what it's supposed to do.
Once upon a time I had a 2002 Frontier and my gripes back then, back seat room, the bed size and the MPGs with the supercharger. Two years later I traded for a titan crew cab more comfortable then the Frontier. I had that truck for 13 years very dependable, but the paint and interior were cheap, and I traded it for a 2019 Ram 1500. Now the Ram is a Cadillac compaired to the Nissan's I owned in the past. I just the Ram will last as long.
Hello, can you do a comparison and what to buy on a 2ND GEN (2021-2022) GMC Canyon AT4 VS 2023 GMC CANYON AT4? I am having that dilemma, I own a 2021 Canyon AT4 and don't know if I should trade it in for a 2023 AT4? I have the V6 3.6L 8 sp trans, crew cab, GM spray-on bed liner 5'.2" bed, cloth/leatherette seats, bose Audio, 8" Infotainment, etc. Great Video btw.
I am in the market for new truck this year. I will be going with the Frontier as I want a extended cab (King Cab) with a 6ft bed truck and the Chevy / GMC doesn't offer those options and the fact that the GM twins do not come with a headlight switch anymore is another major negative for me so Frontier it is.
Unless Nissan just mucks this new line up the platform is pretty much bulletproof. I have my 2007 Nissan Frontier XE still kicking at 245K. I laughed at when I sat in the new frontier and how much old DNA is still there from my truck generation which isnt a bad thing if it makes the truck last for ever. I have tried to blow my 2.5L 4 banger and the damn thing just keeps going. Hope to finally give it a new Pro 4X sister to play with in the near future.
I really like the new Colorado, but I think I’d go with the Nissan. A significant difference is that you can get the Frontier in a King Cab configuration.
Because I like my trucks to last a long time and have fewer rust spots I would and did choose the Nissan. If Chevy used an aluminum body and their engines weren't typically problem children north of 100,000 it would be more even. I have seen Chevy trucks on the lot with rust already showing on the frames and dodges with rust on the body after only a few years. I have had scratches to the metal on Nissans unrepaired and still showing no rust or blisters after several years.
@darthbane2669 Chevy uses a wax coating on their frames. Once that starts coming off, it is near impossible to slow up the rust. None of the underbody coatings stick to the wax.
Good review Tim. Just want to point out that I'm seeing big discounts on Nissan Frontiers in the Southwest. I tried one out in December and price was MSRP. Now I'm seeing $1800 off the Pro 4X and one dealer even called me and said "I need to move Frontiers" and suggested I could get an even better deal if I came in. On the used side I see Pro 4x models from 2022 with several thousand miles for mid $30s. Surprising that you got 20+ MPG in 4x4 hi. My thinking is that you could do quite well with the Frontier if you make sure you're in 9th on the highway. It's a nice truck!
No kidding. The 2018 Colorado V6 I just traded in got worse mileage than my 2023 Silverado 3.0 Duramax. That little truck served my very well, but was simply too small. The back seat legroom was rather bad, and the 2023 redesign is even smaller.
@D Vader Darth? I like your name. I just needed a small truck and though not as capable, my Maverick AWD only cost $31k with lots of lux upgrades like heated seats. Only tows 4000 lbs which is plenty for me. I show it in videos on my channel driving up some unplowed streets in Park City with no problem.
This is not hard to figure out, Nissan Pro 4X all the way! If you wanna keep a truck for the next 15 to 20 years doing meticulous basic maintenance Nissan all the way. If you wanna lease for the next three years then try the Chevy. I test drove both cause I’m in the market for a midsize 4WD, hands down Nissan.
I’d buy the Frontier between these 2, just because I don’t trust GM’s quality/reliability. Plus GM got rid of a normal headlight switch. Now in their touchscreen, how stupid.
@@EdMiF I’m on the other side, I like to manually turn on my parking lights & headlights when I want to. The Auto lights don’t always match the darkness or turn on in the rain. Which is a law where I live.
I'm telling you right now what this guy showed for pricing and what they are really going for is absolutely different. This video is claiming you can get a pro 4X for 40k well that's a lie man. I went to the Nissan dealer not that long ago and was looking at the 4x2 SV. They wanted 43k for it so yea you're looking at over 50k for a pro 4X that still won't be able to hang with the colorado.
@@chriskolaska897 I just bought my 23 titan pro4x for 52 out the door at my local dealership and frontier pro4x was going for 38k you might want to shop around bud. lol hang with a colorado...shm you sound like you don't actually get out on the trail bud.
@@chriskolaska897I got my pro4x for 48k out the door. And it's almost fully loaded. A base pro4x starts at 40k, mine was stickered at 45. The only package I don't have is the pro premium which would have added; leather seats, sunroof, auto dimming mirror, different wheels and a garage door opener 😂. I already have the fender audio which also comes in that package...but unlike GM you can order it separately since GM likes to force you into packages to get a specific feature. And they had a couple there fully loaded for under 50k. MSRP. That's before even getting into any discounts, rebates or incentives.
@@chriskolaska897 also wdy mean it won't hang with a Colorado? Be specific, it won't hang with a ZR2 but it will absolutely keep up with a trail boss or Z71....and I say on paper is more equal to a Z71 Unless your talking straight line speed of which nobody cares about...its a truck, not a race car 😂
I agree with your comment that the frontier interior will get boring quick. I love my Pro4X but there was so much more they could have ( and should have) done to bring that interior up 100%. Fully digital dash, better placement of switches ( ones on left side of driver are terrible) get rid of all that gloss black ( nobody likes it anymore) better camera quality ( think it’s been the same for 20yrs) Maybe in a few years they will do a refresh of the interior if they want to keep selling Frontiers!
Love my 05 Frontier, it's my jeep, and it never needs to go to the shop. Would probably pick the frontier. My only concern would be the traction control buttons on the new ones being hidden by my knee. I use those quite a bit.
For interstate road trips the Ridgeline is the way to go. It's quieter, better fuel economy and it just rides better than the competition because of the unibody design.
Yeah Reliability is #1. 14 years with Sierra and can't complain. 2 -3 year leases with a Silverado and I ain't ever coming back!!! Taco or Ridgeline!! The Employees of GM will always buy. FYI I can get plan also but can do better or at least the same without it and I don't have to take it back to the dealer every month! :)
Not a GM or Nissan fan, maybe the Colorado if they kept the V6 albiet 400+lb torque with the new 2.7 turbo 4. The Nissan may be naturally aspirated but for me I owned 2 Nissans in the past and they were garbage, Murano and Pathfinder. Two of my brothers had Maxima's that were also plaqued with issues and my Dad has a Rogue that is not bad but not great either. So I think I'll role the dice with the Chevy but I would choose the Ranger or Tacoma over both if I ever were to go midsized instead of a full sized truck.
Other than the extra ratio in the trans and the 3.8 liter normally aspirated V6 I prefer everything else about the Colorado.Considering that the Nizmo is more expensive than the Trail Boss I would go for the Chevy. The Canyon is overpriced IMHO as I use my truck as a... truck.
@@ryanlavallee3239 bahahaha you're funny because the heated steering wheel and seats came standard in the 19 LT Colorado to current oh and they also come with ventilated seats as well. The Nissan's interior while it's a step up from the previous generation but it's still cheap and as this guy mentioned he's 5'7 and if he's complaining about the cab room then that's bad. My 17 frontiers cab was also small but my 16 Colorado the cab is so much bigger and the seats are just so much more comfortable as they literally hug your back.
@Chris Kolaska the heated seats and wheel are option packages now for the z71+. Of course different packages. The cooled seats are another package. I priced it out the new z71 is 10k can more. The 22z71 comes with it.
@Chris Kolaska I'm personally looking at getting a 22 z71. Still has the v6. Radio craps put your not screwed. Decent mpg, price wise it's the same as the trailboss which isn't great interior and the plastic front bumper seems cheap to me.
I was worried about the reliability of my turbo when I picked up my FORD Excursion 20 years ago. Now at 310,000 miles with no repairs to the drive train, I don't worry about it any more. Oh, and I'm in the Upper Midwest snow and road salt country.
@@ryanlavallee3239 no they weren't. Not reliable. I lived with a MR2 Turbo from the 90s and it always had a problem. Boost leaks, oil burning, cracked manifolds, and more. Even Supras had their share of turbo issues. Ive had custom turbo builds that I had to rebuild the turbos themselves within a few years. 6 psi was all it took. Nowadays 20 psi is basically normal.
Hello folks. I'm looking to buy a new truck in fall of this year. This will be my first truck. I will be upgrading from a vw golf lol. Given my life style, I love camping and i don't mind long distance driving. I live in Northern Alberta Canada and we get pretty crazy winters out here. Without being biased, would you recommend a 2023 GMC Canyon AT4 (not atx4) or the 2023 Nissan Frontier Pro4x ? Which is more reliable and trusting?
Nissan all the way for me mainly because of the fuel injected V6, as long as I can still avoid it I wont be buying any turbo 4 bangers...I keep my trucks for a long time and I have seen too many very expensive issues with Turbo engines in the long run
I own a 2013 Frontier with 112,000 miles and it is still going strong. I understand the 2024 Frontier will still have the 3.8liter v6 with turbo. I’ll stay with the Frontier it’s just more reliable
Hey Tim up here in Ontario Canada there are tons of full size trucks but no midsize trucks to be found do you have the same problem and if so why? Thanks
Nissan Frontier. It’s solid and last of its kind in a good way.
I love mine!
It really is the last of its kind. Same with the Titan. I love my 22 frontier and I was a Toyota Fanboy for YEARS. Nissan took Toyota’s game plan of it ain’t broke then don’t fix it. Toyota has copied Ford and Chevy.
Love mine too ! It performs
I would rather have a naturally aspirated engine. I love the looks of the Nissan Frontier
only think I hate is the orage accents reminds me of the red dash in the Rubicon for 45k Im not looking for cheesy or tacky gimmicks
Yep, more to break. I had a Titan from 2004 to 2019 and the stock V8 was 305 HP. I Now have a 2019 Ram with the 5.7 Hemi, 398 hp, no turbos. I fear now all manufacturers will only equip 1/2 ton pk with turbocharged motors. Theirs not much gain with the mpgs, and may be slightly more powerful. The V8s are dependable and has been around for decades. Also I dont trust GM 4 bangers, especially the turbo in the 1/2 Chevy.
GM Engineers say the 2.7 was designed as a diesel that runs on gasoline. I have a Canyon with one and I am super happy.
GM engineers also said the ignition key was not a problem. Look at that recall. In the 70, GM engineers thought it was a great idea to take a gas engine and put diesel heads on it for the Cadillac.
What I'm saying is GM engineers will say anything to get people to purchase a vehicle, and to be honest so will all engineers for any manufacture.
So don't lead a pile of BS on what an engineer at the company says.
But, research, it was NOT built as a future diesel.
I will say, it was used for many years, pretty good engine.
@@B86432the red dash in the rubicon is tacky AF
I have a 23 pro 4X and I really like it. No issues, sound system rocks, good motor, pearl boulder grey metallic.
I'll take the Frontier, 10 years from now it will still be running fine.
I’ve got the frontier,wouldn’t trade for Chevy no way
Depends more on the driver. Drive and abuse a vehicle like a moron, it will break down. Funny how my 2005 vehicle still runs fine.
@@elche1976 you cant even make an attempt at saying the Chevy will outlast the Nissan , its physically impossible that pile of shit will make year 5 without major expenses. Iv owned Chevy my whole life with an aggressive maitenance history on each Chevy vehicle to the point of it being absurd. The second you turn your back and the babysitting stops they fall apart, every time, the Nissan will run for extreme periods of time with zero to minimal maitenance required, Im sure you understand substandard engineering leads to a substandard product.
@Panther Martin77 sounds like a lot of excuses for your crappy driving. I seem to be able to do it with chevy, Honda, toyota... all last.
Like they say... a poor pianist blames their music on the piano. Maybe you need to get better at taking care of things instead of blaming the object for you being terrible.
Not this Nissans 🤣
I'll take that naturally aspirated V6 Nissan. It will still be in my family 15 years from now.
My N/A Hardbody is almost 40 years old. I've had it for 30.
Between the two....I'll take the Nissan Frontier.
Got my 2023 Frontier Pro 4X. I absolutely love this truck.
I'd probably get the frontier 🛻👍
Old school 💯, turbos is not for everyone and the reliability is not there. Yes Frontier all the way...
The reliability is there. You have no data to back that up. Just "I think". I went from a Taco 2012 TRD Off Road to a Ranger Lariat FX4.. First the powertrain is night and day better. I live in Wyoming and at elevation the turbo doesn't turn into a dog. Second my Taco had 2 warranty fixes in first 15 K (AC went out and leaking shock). Ranger at 30K. Zero issues. Nothing. Like new. I will never ever ever go back to NA engine. The torgue is insane and so much better. Nothing against Nissan, but they can keep it.
@@drn13355 agree, Ranger is the way to go!
@@drn13355 As a Former Ford service advice advisor a can tell Turbos is not for everyone, if you know how to drive it, you are good, but the new trend is put a turbo in small engine and that's will be okay. By my experience I know, but once again it's work for you that's perfect, and just go by all the problems that I saw in the road 🤷♂️.
@Phil Easler Phil, I have a turbo in my Maverick AWD and it runs great. I posted some videos on my channel with a full stop on a steep icy road in Park City, and driving again with minimal slippage.
I love my Pro 4X, but still was wondering if I was going to trade it in for a new Colorado. Now that I know what the pricing is, I would be an absolute dummy to want to trade my Frontier for a Colorado. Besides, the quality and reliability of the Frontier just don't compare to the Colorado. Frontier all the way!
Frontier looks soooo much better too.
The colorado is actually cheaper the the frontier. Both the trail boss and Z71 are cheaper then the pro 4x and both are 4WD. The only ones they will be more expensive are the ZR2 and ZR2 bison.
@@chriskolaska897 You forgot to compare the equipment that comes with them. You will never find a Colorado that's fully equipped in an off-roady version for the price of a Frontier!
@@chriskolaska897Not happening.😂 you won't get a Colorado equally equipped to the Frontier for less than $55000 not to mention Nissan always has banger lease deals unlike the Colorado.
@@blessed4164just got my Colorado, has everything, 4WD, heated seats, offroad package, 41K
I just got a '23 Pro4X, the ride is great, getting 19+ in town. Fit & finish (seats) exceed the Taco by a long shot. Had an H3 that was basically a Colorado drivetrain. Shop queen, bled my wallet. The turbo 4 seems really cool, but there are many 1 million Mile frontiers. How many GM trucks say that? [ my first truck was a new '89 Chevy S10, I'm not a brand loyal koolaid drinker for an any brand, just a realist, Japan makes reliable trucks]
The H3 had the 1st green colorado drive train in it which i agree was crap. The 2nd gens we're a huge improvement and are petty reliable as mines been pretty good to me.
As a mechanic, I've always believed that Toyota's vehicles were a notch or several above the other makes. I was waiting and waiting for the new 24 Tacoma's to come out and when they finally were on the dealerships lot .... I pulled the trigger on a 24 Frontier Pro 4x instead. Just can't accept a little 2.4 turbo as the only powerplant. Love my tac green Pro 4x, NA 310 hp V6, and thousands under MSRP to boot.
Pretty much agree. My thoughts are if it does not burn diesel fuel, a turbo is a scary engine; especially, when made by GM. (And I have owned a lot of GM trucks but unless a diesel all have been NA). Other problem with the Colorado is the integration with the info screen with items such as headlamp control, etc. I don't want to sit and push the screen three of four times just to manually turn on the headlamps. I want a solid switch on the left of the steering column on the dash panel or the turn signal stalk.
I'll also state, that us old-timers appreciate hydraulic assist PS; especially, if on dirt trails. The EPS is for non-performance cars.
Frontier, the 9spd is so smooth and I’m not sold on Chevy’s claim that they fixed all the issues with the 8spd. Sometimes old school is the way to go especially with all the manufacturers going to turbocharged engines.
i'll never get a toyota , wanted a tacoma for years , they are all hybrid now ,, no electric for me
@@woofman4796 yeah their one of the few manufacturers that is trying to stay away from this electrification craze but I think the government has too much control with the epa and forcing these crazy cafe standards
@@woofman4796 Huh? They're still naturally aspirated V6's. The new ones aren't even announced yet...?
@@Snappydadshoes i watched a video by this same guy about the tundra a few months back , he mentioned the tacoma , he said all new toyotas are going to be hybrid , standard , unless he spoke wrong or i heard wrong , but i'm not reading lips yet ,, who knows , i love the tacoma , i prefer all gas though , no diesels , stupid def fluid
@@woofman4796 We don't know yet. They'll probably be turbos, but nothing has been announced.
Have owned a 23 PRO-X for two months now, great truck, getting around 25 mpg on the highway, strong motor.
This is the first video that I've seen of yours, and I have to say how happy I am to hear you discuss reliability. It doesn't matter how well appointed a vehicle is if it's going to leave its owner standing on the side of the road two weeks after the warranty expires.
I've seen so many comparisons done in videos that completely ignore quality and reliability. Thank you for making this a part of your analysis.
Reliability is hard to always talk about with brand new vehicles and new powertrains. Where possible I do bring it up though since it is a key part of the buying decision. Glad you enjoyed this one!
My biggest gripe with the Colorado is the obnoxious package dependencies. You can't just add certain ones without forcing you into others, and if you don't get some of them, you don't get *standard features* (like Andrew on FLT found out mistakenly omitting cruise control). This is usually the case with most makes/models, but Chevy brought it to a new madness level.
Agreed.
I think I am leaning towards the 2024 frontier pro 4x. I'd really like to get a lift with bigger tires for off road trail riding. The Colorado, especially the trail boss looks really rugged, which I wish the Frontier had more of that exterior design. My one big, huge gripe with the Colorado Trail Boss, there is no led headlights and not even a led fog light that comes with the truck. For a off road trail riding truck, I feel that chevy just cheeped out on this with their customers. So, I think I may buy the Frontier Pro 4X over the Colorado and the new Tacoma.
I had 2018 SV, would only get 12-13 mpg in town, 19-20 on the highway. Loved the truck hated the mpg. Was going to trade it in ‘22, dealer was marking up $11.5K I walked away.
I regret selling my 12.5MPG Tundra....
If the next-Gen Colorado is equal to or better than the 2nd Gen, then 100% Colorado. My 2017 has been a champ. Bought it in 2017 after my Frontier transmission failed.
@DevilDog53 he said a 17 and i did as well and mine crapped out at 45k miles between having to do the brakes every 10k miles and going through 6 sets of brake pads and 4 sets of rotors and having Nissan's engineers come out an go through an replaced the entire brake system and still had the same issue then the rear differential goes out at and this is an in 45k miles lol.
@Bikes0420 lmfao no, unfortunately, that was not the case buddy, and i wish it was, lol. It didn't matter how i drove. The breaks would go out and never once hauled anything with that truck. I had the entire break system redone, and it still happened, so i got it lemon lawed. Truck was a real cheap piece of shit as everything on that truck was really, really cheaply made. Hell, my driver's side seat was almost fully worn out at 45k miles.
@@chriskolaska897lemon lawed for breaks... hmmm sure 😂
@@thewireman134 actually yes that was part of the issue song with the differential going out at 40k miles
@@chriskolaska897 just figured I would chime in... I'm on lunch brake
Chevy and GM is pricing themselves out of the buyers market!
Why,,,they cost no more than the other brands and a much better performing ,,and way better looking!
That’s why this video is relevant..I just looked at a 2024 Silverado.. msrp was between $62-71k unreal.. but ill still take the Nissan
I like my 2019 colorado.
Frontier all day-long. Best decision I've ever made
I owned a 2005, 2019 and my 2023 SV. Mine have all been primarily for off road here in the pine barrens and on the beach surf fishing. The new one is very capable both on and off road and it will turn without needing a landing zone.
i ordered a gmc canyon denali but i looked at a frontier but the cameras are trash and dont like the interior but the outside looks really cool
Almost $60k for a GMC Denali vs Frontier maxed out at $48k, I will take that extra money in my pocket and deal with cameras not being super HD. I do like the new interior on the GMC but still not worth the cost in my opinion.
I'm paying 51k plus tax for my denali and that has everything I picked the volcanic red as well but I get a supplier discount at gm nothing at Nissan
It's good to hear honest comments especially about anything general motors I work for general motors for over 25 years and watched them deteriorate, and experiment with the public, even though I'm not a fan of Nissan, you change my mind about purchasing a new Colorado I'm not a fan of turbocharged engines, keep up the good honest commentary.
I worked for GM Arlington Truck and SUV plant for 31 years and as times changed the build process became very innovative and bullet proof over the years, everything is close tolerance and the product won't move out of station unless all the computer programmed torque parameters are accomplished. You can't make a mistake without the build system letting you know about it. All vehicles are made with robotics and safeguards to prevent mistakes in today's production plants. Basically all auto products are pretty close to the same quality because of work practices and innovative, dummy proof build systems. So please don't tell me that one brand is built better than another brand. GM, Toyota, Nissan and Ford would not be in bussiness unless they built decent quality products. It all comes down to design and personal preferences in what your idea of the perfect truck is for YOU.
I really like the Frontier Pro4X.
At the 11 min time stamp you wandered why GM allows you to still "build and price" a 2022 Colorado, because they will not make one anymore but you can spec one out and still search and price a similar specced 2022 Colorado out of current inventory that dealers still have
I recently got a 2023 Nissan frontier pro- 4X boulder gray with all the options except for the leather and sunroof the reason I went with frontier is because of the reliability also, it has a lot more room than he made it look in this video.
I traded a 2019 Ranger for my 2023 Pro 4x . The back seats are a lot larger than the Ranger . I looked at the new Colorado but wasn't as impressive to me as the Nissan was.
Frontier looks like an old Tacoma and I like it.
Without the Tacoma drawbacks of weak frame, hunting transmission, crappy seating position...
Frontier. I've been waiting 7 months here in Canada. But I just got a call today that it's landed in the country. Soon.
Last year it would have been a 100% Frontier. Now with the Colorado refresh in and out, it is a very hard decision. I think the electric-steering and lane-keep-assist,... leans me towards the Colorado. Price may make the Frontier the easy winner.
Stay off your damn phone you should not need lane assist wtf 😂😂😂😂
@@billybritt5334 hard to believe but vehicles did leave lanes before cell phones existed. Crazy, I know.
@@wilmarbarrick3194 not if you're driving the damn car
American car companies sure do put the boots to us, I have a 3500 ram diesel which works good and I like it, but after that its asian for sure. frontier is a nice truck and seems like good quality. GM is overpriced and not sure of the quality now days. probably all ok so buy what you like
Great video! Both are on my short list. My biggest issue with the Frontier is payload. I will be towing a 2,900 lb camper and camping gear in the bed and back seat. The Colorado seems to offer more real world payload (it also tows more by at least 1,000 lbs). However, reliability is very important to me. I am impressed with the numbers from the Colorado’s turbocharged engine, but is it reliable? Is that 8 speed tranny in the Colorado reliable? I like that the Frontier gives you options with the bed length. The deciding factors for me: price, reliability, and function (payload).
Dude, I own a Pro 4X and it can easily tow 6500lbs. Get one!
@@patricklachance3187 You will exceed payload by quite a bit. Tongue weight alone will put you almost at payload limit, plus passengers, stuff in the bed of the truck, etc.
@@wwz1011 Total load with my family, the gear and the trailer was 6300. I drove about 9000km through Canada and the US: flawless. I almost didn’t feel it.
@@patricklachance3187 what is your payload per the yellow sticker on the driver’s side door frame?
The 2.7t (IMO) has done well for a turbocharged engine. When compared to the V8's that is currently in the Silverado. Particularly the V8's that utilize both the AFM and DFM. The 2.7t has actually done better than the V8's. Despite the 2.7t utilizing the AFM as well. Tyranny is a different story. I haven't heard too much about it in terms of reliability, in the Silverado after the 2022/2023 update. GM has stated that they fixed the issue with the previous gen 8 spd with the new 8 spd coming out in the 2023 Colorado. But that only goes as far as when it comes to real world driving.
But hindsight if the 2.7t is doing better than the current V8's, all using the AFM or DFM. If you were to do a AFM delete on the 2.7t it could probably do better in terms of reliability. The only questionable part is the tranny.
Owned 2005 Colorado Crew Cab for 16 years, it was my favorite vehicle. But when I decided to buy a new truck recently, I found that the Frontier PRO-4X was actually more like my old favorite than the new Colorado. On the Colorado test drive, I kept banging my head getting in and out. I fit better in the Frontier, plus I got way more for less.
If I had to buy one of these tomorrow I would go with the Frontier. You can still get it with a long bed and to me that's huge as I haul a lot of stuff in my bed often. I really don't like the trend of trucks to only come with short-beds.
7 foot bed would be even nicer with proper payload but only the old Rangers had those.
@@marcpikas2859 got a 20 yr old f250 for that. Although it is a pain getting into a gas station and grocery shopping. More of a farm truck in its last days
I like the Colorado looks all around...by far in my opinion the best looking truck out there, inside and out. Frontier is nice looking, but the back seat is so small that kills it a bit for me. I am worried about the 2.7 in the chevy but I think if I were to be getting one I would probably take my chances with the Chevy unless I could get the Frontier for WAY less comparably equipped.... I tend to go lower trims so I would have to compare that way
I have last model colorado and love the experience my first truck but it lacks a fair amount of tech which new one has and a huge upgrade in the interior so ordered it a few weeks ago.
@Darth Bane what model do you have cause I've got a 16 Z71 and completely satisfied with the tech it has. Maybe it's just me since I switched over from a frontier but I think the tech it has is pretty good and up to date.
Don't forget the 5yr 100,000 mile bumper to bumper warranty on the Nissan.
Easily the Nissan. Ford Chevy dodge have fell off a cliff back in the early 2000’s in terms of quality longevity.
The V8 and diesel Chevys, Fords, and Dodge/Rams are generally still good. But anything that’s not that stay away from.
Love my new frontier Pro-X with all trimmings. Just filled in rear frontier logo with black 3d logos to offset the Boulder grey and waiting on the grey logos to put on the black hood logo. And replacing the “pro-x” emblem on the bed with “nismo”. And just ordered the Nismo hood graphic. $375 is a lot for basically a big adhesive sticker, but sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do.
Japanese trucks are sick af!!
All day long I would buy the Nissan if it was the old hard body 4 cy engine ,I personally knew and myself 6-7 hardbodies that have went 330 k - 700k on same engine !
Still driving a 1987 Hardbody with Z24i. Slow and steady. Probably is everyone else wants big HP numbers now even if they don't need it.
But Nissan does make their V6 engines very good. The 3.8 in the GTR-35 has 600 hp stock, and it actually holds up well. The old Hardbody VG 30 was very solid too. Just had to remember the timing belt.
The new Colorado is super sharp. The interior is refreshed with that huge screen and the way the engine is built with some diesel like aspects I’m going Chevy for sure
the 'diesel like aspects' are only found on the Plus model with 390# ft of torque or the high output with 430# of torque, NOT the base engine
@@markashby8219 and your point is???? Very few people will get the base model and even with the base model the engine can be tuned up.
@Bobby Smith base cannot be tuned, internal engine and transmission components are lower spec than turbo plus.
@@markashby8219 if you payed attn or go online you will see that you can upgrade to the high output engine for about 1,400 bucks so yea that's not really a big deal. Also Nissan's track record for their trucks is not very good. They're built very poorly and don't last.
@@chriskolaska897 you willing to bet money that your Turbo 4 banger Colorado last longer than a NA V6 Frontier? If so, you’re gonna lose that money Chief 😂 tell me you don’t know cars without telling me you don’t know cars.
i have a fuly loaded 2024 pro4x , no problems smooth and Fender system is decent
Frontier all day. The cooling system alone in the Colorado 2.7 is too complex! The Frontier is cheaper, has a 100k mile bumper to bumper warranty and is almost guaranteed to be more reliable, especially in the long term. Lots of mileage in a short time is nothing, how it will hold up ober the course of 10-15 yrs will really define a vehicles reliability.
I checked the GMC. Liked the truck, know the engine is good, but price was almost 50k OTD! Ended up buying two Frontiers, one 7k under MRSP and other with leather others upgrades for 10k of MRSP! ❤❤❤❤
You should see the new frontier Nismo V8! Wide body, long arm suspension and the Titan's 5.6 V8.
I believe it is a 10-year 100,000 mile powertrain warranty!!! Which is unheard of in the truck world.
2017 Pro-4x owner from new. The most reliable, well built (no rattles/squeaks/broken parts) vehicle I have ever owned. Great off road, good for highway (comfort is good). Easily park it in my garage. Lots of power and torque.
Three things I dislike 1) gas mileage isn’t great but it’s a 4 wheel drive v6 2) turning radius is terrible 3) original tires (Hankook Dynapro AT-M) weren’t great for wet and snow. Terrible on ice. I swapped them out for K02’s
I plan on keeping this truck for as long as I can. Love it. Hopefully the new models are just as good.
the positives nobody talks about when having a trash turning radius is that it results in driving any other car seem like pre school homework
Been the 4 cylinder GM turbo route. They ignored easily correctable problems for well over a decade in the cruise and compact SUV market.
Hope you like buying new intake manifold and valve cover every 20,000 miles when the pcv system blows out.
Also my dad and brother both had Colorados and got rid of them due to transmission problems early on.
GM says they've got it fixed but they'll say anything you want to hear to get you to buy a truck.
Show me the reliability for my money.
So far I've got no serious complaints out of my 22 frontier. It just does what it's supposed to do.
Once upon a time I had a 2002 Frontier and my gripes back then, back seat room, the bed size and the MPGs with the supercharger. Two years later I traded for a titan crew cab more comfortable then the Frontier. I had that truck for 13 years very dependable, but the paint and interior were cheap, and I traded it for a 2019 Ram 1500. Now the Ram is a Cadillac compaired to the Nissan's I owned in the past. I just the Ram will last as long.
I believe you can order a kick step for the frontier. It's similar to the kick step Titan has.
I’m getting 27 mpg highway on my 2023 Pro 4x and no BS turbo! Nice truck
I have a 2010 frontier I bought new....still running great.
Great review tim!was that 20.4 mpg from the truck computer or did you calculate it at the pump when you filled up?
Just wish they made back seat bigger for adults. Love color
Buy a car
But then it wouldn't be a midsize anymore.
who cares about the back seat the driver never sits there anyway.
@@robthomas1829 you have kids with car seat you would or family
@@TheSlugger76 Family at your age you can't even grow hair!
Hello, can you do a comparison and what to buy on a 2ND GEN (2021-2022) GMC Canyon AT4 VS 2023 GMC CANYON AT4? I am having that dilemma, I own a 2021 Canyon AT4 and don't know if I should trade it in for a 2023 AT4? I have the V6 3.6L 8 sp trans, crew cab, GM spray-on bed liner 5'.2" bed, cloth/leatherette seats, bose Audio, 8" Infotainment, etc. Great Video btw.
I'd hesitate to do a comparison until I have seat time with the new 2023 Canyon. That will come at the end of April.
I am in the market for new truck this year. I will be going with the Frontier as I want a extended cab (King Cab) with a 6ft bed truck and the Chevy / GMC doesn't offer those options and the fact that the GM twins do not come with a headlight switch anymore is another major negative for me so Frontier it is.
Man this is a tough one to pick
owning and enjoying 2024 Frontier SV 4x4 .perfect.mileage good as well.
It’s the Nissan for me, lack of a longer bed and GM’s recent reliability problems are deal breakers.
Guy talking about how the interior will be dated fast. I'm driving my ol 98 sonoma sls with cassette radio.
get that baby in a radio shop and grab a new radio system
My 87 Hardbody interior has STYLE!
Two tone blue with orange gauges! No touch screen whatsoever. Manual windows.
Nissan will be the last NA V6. I have a feeling they will be sought after in the next 5-10 years.
Love my 23 Frontier Pro-4X
Have you experienced any issues with the dashboard quality or anything loose? Transmission recall? Apparently most people were affected with 2022
The Nissan was a one week loan.
I have had a 22 frontier since February of 22. Rock solid truck
Unless Nissan just mucks this new line up the platform is pretty much bulletproof. I have my 2007 Nissan Frontier XE still kicking at 245K. I laughed at when I sat in the new frontier and how much old DNA is still there from my truck generation which isnt a bad thing if it makes the truck last for ever. I have tried to blow my 2.5L 4 banger and the damn thing just keeps going. Hope to finally give it a new Pro 4X sister to play with in the near future.
Yep the 3rd gen Frontier is built off the 2nd Gen frame. Even the 3.8 and 9 speed carried over from the 2nd Gen. (3.8 and 9 speed came out in 2020)
Frontier perfect for an actual work truck, love the smaller back seat.
Brother picked up the pro 4x awesome looking truck. Frontier will be more reliable than the Colorado so it's a no brainier.
I went with the 23 Pro4x V6 3.8 N/A Appeals to me more than a 2.7 Turbo blown engine.
I really like the new Colorado, but I think I’d go with the Nissan. A significant difference is that you can get the Frontier in a King Cab configuration.
Just bought a Pro-X in gray. Love it!
If I were in the market, Frontier FTW. When this turbo 4 banger starts falling apart, I'm gonna laugh out loud. 🙂
Glad I saw this. The pro 4X or the tacoma. I'm not sure, would like off road capability and good on road experience.
Frontier for me. If I wasn’t about to have a third kid, It’d be my choice out of all. Tundra incoming this fall.
Because I like my trucks to last a long time and have fewer rust spots I would and did choose the Nissan. If Chevy used an aluminum body and their engines weren't typically problem children north of 100,000 it would be more even. I have seen Chevy trucks on the lot with rust already showing on the frames and dodges with rust on the body after only a few years. I have had scratches to the metal on Nissans unrepaired and still showing no rust or blisters after several years.
Almost all Silverado over 10 in the rust belt have rust around the wheels wells.
@@pagodad8079 the Silverado 07-13 rust like Imhotep in The Mummy.
Why I pay for the protection wash I've never allowed my vehicles to get rusty keep them cleaned and shiny
@darthbane2669 Chevy uses a wax coating on their frames. Once that starts coming off, it is near impossible to slow up the rust. None of the underbody coatings stick to the wax.
Good review Tim. Just want to point out that I'm seeing big discounts on Nissan Frontiers in the Southwest. I tried one out in December and price was MSRP. Now I'm seeing $1800 off the Pro 4X and one dealer even called me and said "I need to move Frontiers" and suggested I could get an even better deal if I came in. On the used side I see Pro 4x models from 2022 with several thousand miles for mid $30s. Surprising that you got 20+ MPG in 4x4 hi. My thinking is that you could do quite well with the Frontier if you make sure you're in 9th on the highway. It's a nice truck!
New model on the way!
I hope 2024 comes out in June😊😊😊
Same mpg as full size trucks. Advantage of these mid size trucks is maneuverability but not fuel economy.
Another advantage is price. No similarly equipped full size truck is 40k to 45k.
No kidding. The 2018 Colorado V6 I just traded in got worse mileage than my 2023 Silverado 3.0 Duramax. That little truck served my very well, but was simply too small. The back seat legroom was rather bad, and the 2023 redesign is even smaller.
@D Vader Darth? I like your name. I just needed a small truck and though not as capable, my Maverick AWD only cost $31k with lots of lux upgrades like heated seats. Only tows 4000 lbs which is plenty for me. I show it in videos on my channel driving up some unplowed streets in Park City with no problem.
This is not hard to figure out, Nissan Pro 4X all the way!
If you wanna keep a truck for the next 15 to 20 years doing meticulous basic maintenance Nissan all the way.
If you wanna lease for the next three years then try the Chevy.
I test drove both cause I’m in the market for a midsize 4WD, hands down Nissan.
Frontier for reliability
100% frontier all day. Not in the market for mid size (yet), but if I was…
I’d buy the Frontier between these 2, just because I don’t trust GM’s quality/reliability. Plus GM got rid of a normal headlight switch. Now in their touchscreen, how stupid.
Nissan is way worse than GM. Honda is now worse than GM.
I’ve got vehicles with automatic headlights and rarely if ever touch the switch.
@@EdMiF I’m on the other side, I like to manually turn on my parking lights & headlights when I want to. The Auto lights don’t always match the darkness or turn on in the rain. Which is a law where I live.
@@user-tb7rn1il3q Consumer Reports says otherwise.
I would take the frontier, no hesitation.
I'm going with colorado have the last model and love it but the new one is a big upgrade so ordered the z71 with all but the sun roof
Exactly how I would do it.
@rivirme looking forward to having a vehicle actually up to date when it comes to tech
For what you get based on pricing the frontier is my choice and it's built on the titan half ton frame.
I'm telling you right now what this guy showed for pricing and what they are really going for is absolutely different. This video is claiming you can get a pro 4X for 40k well that's a lie man. I went to the Nissan dealer not that long ago and was looking at the 4x2 SV. They wanted 43k for it so yea you're looking at over 50k for a pro 4X that still won't be able to hang with the colorado.
@@chriskolaska897 I just bought my 23 titan pro4x for 52 out the door at my local dealership and frontier pro4x was going for 38k you might want to shop around bud. lol hang with a colorado...shm you sound like you don't actually get out on the trail bud.
@Chris Kolaska They have pro 4x for 42k where I live.
@@chriskolaska897I got my pro4x for 48k out the door. And it's almost fully loaded. A base pro4x starts at 40k, mine was stickered at 45. The only package I don't have is the pro premium which would have added; leather seats, sunroof, auto dimming mirror, different wheels and a garage door opener 😂. I already have the fender audio which also comes in that package...but unlike GM you can order it separately since GM likes to force you into packages to get a specific feature.
And they had a couple there fully loaded for under 50k. MSRP. That's before even getting into any discounts, rebates or incentives.
@@chriskolaska897 also wdy mean it won't hang with a Colorado? Be specific, it won't hang with a ZR2 but it will absolutely keep up with a trail boss or Z71....and I say on paper is more equal to a Z71
Unless your talking straight line speed of which nobody cares about...its a truck, not a race car 😂
I agree with your comment that the frontier interior will get boring quick. I love my Pro4X but there was so much more they could have ( and should have) done to bring that interior up 100%. Fully digital dash, better placement of switches ( ones on left side of driver are terrible) get rid of all that gloss black ( nobody likes it anymore) better camera quality ( think it’s been the same for 20yrs)
Maybe in a few years they will do a refresh of the interior if they want to keep selling Frontiers!
Who needs all that corny stuff in a dashboard, just watch TV when you get home. 🤣
Who cares about interior. Just give me heat/ac and a reliable 4x4 truck. That’s why I like my 21 Taco no frills truck that I can have for a long time
Love my 05 Frontier, it's my jeep, and it never needs to go to the shop. Would probably pick the frontier. My only concern would be the traction control buttons on the new ones being hidden by my knee. I use those quite a bit.
From your experiences with driving the midsized trucks, is there a vehicle you'd recommend that work best for roadtrips?
For interstate road trips the Ridgeline is the way to go. It's quieter, better fuel economy and it just rides better than the competition because of the unibody design.
And don't forget the in-bed trunk, so easy to hide your stuff back there on road trips.
@@IamGroot786 that truck bed 2 way gate and cargo space is why I will buy a ridgeline later years down the road
I'm disappointed that No 4x trim for the King cab is offered like Toyota
How is everyone affording new vehicles? If you can't afford 2 with cash you can't afford to finance 1. I'll stick to my 95 pathfinder and 97 D21.
Picked up a fully loaded 2023 Pro 4x for 44500 . Similar Colorado ZR2 wouldve been around 50k. Not worth the extra 6k.
I just got mine Pro 4x for $39500 out the door .
Yeah Reliability is #1. 14 years with Sierra and can't complain. 2 -3 year leases with a Silverado and I ain't ever coming back!!! Taco or Ridgeline!! The Employees of GM will always buy. FYI I can get plan also but can do better or at least the same without it and I don't have to take it back to the dealer every month! :)
If anyone made a “mid” size body on frame the same size as the Ridgeline, they would sell a ton of them. More inside room all around.
Not a GM or Nissan fan, maybe the Colorado if they kept the V6 albiet 400+lb torque with the new 2.7 turbo 4. The Nissan may be naturally aspirated but for me I owned 2 Nissans in the past and they were garbage, Murano and Pathfinder. Two of my brothers had Maxima's that were also plaqued with issues and my Dad has a Rogue that is not bad but not great either. So I think I'll role the dice with the Chevy but I would choose the Ranger or Tacoma over both if I ever were to go midsized instead of a full sized truck.
Other than the extra ratio in the trans and the 3.8 liter normally aspirated V6 I prefer everything else about the Colorado.Considering that the Nizmo is more expensive than the Trail Boss I would go for the Chevy. The Canyon is overpriced IMHO as I use my truck as a... truck.
Nissan comes with a way better interior, heated seated and steering wheel, CRUISE.
@@ryanlavallee3239 bahahaha you're funny because the heated steering wheel and seats came standard in the 19 LT Colorado to current oh and they also come with ventilated seats as well. The Nissan's interior while it's a step up from the previous generation but it's still cheap and as this guy mentioned he's 5'7 and if he's complaining about the cab room then that's bad. My 17 frontiers cab was also small but my 16 Colorado the cab is so much bigger and the seats are just so much more comfortable as they literally hug your back.
@Chris Kolaska the heated seats and wheel are option packages now for the z71+. Of course different packages. The cooled seats are another package. I priced it out the new z71 is 10k can more. The 22z71 comes with it.
@Chris Kolaska I'm personally looking at getting a 22 z71. Still has the v6. Radio craps put your not screwed. Decent mpg, price wise it's the same as the trailboss which isn't great interior and the plastic front bumper seems cheap to me.
@Chris Kolaska and yes standard cruise is an option now unless your z71 level. Packaged with rear destrost for 300$.
I was worried about the reliability of my turbo when I picked up my FORD Excursion 20 years ago. Now at 310,000 miles with no repairs to the drive train, I don't worry about it any more. Oh, and I'm in the Upper Midwest snow and road salt country.
20 years ago was different then today, everything turbo seems to be issues lately, even honda.
@@ryanlavallee3239 20 years ago turbos blew seals every 3-5 years or developed shaft play. Not so much these days.
@Bee Xiong just saying turbo vehicles were more reliable even in the 90s, they weren't also putting out 20+psi direct injection like they are today.
@@ryanlavallee3239 no they weren't. Not reliable. I lived with a MR2 Turbo from the 90s and it always had a problem. Boost leaks, oil burning, cracked manifolds, and more. Even Supras had their share of turbo issues. Ive had custom turbo builds that I had to rebuild the turbos themselves within a few years. 6 psi was all it took. Nowadays 20 psi is basically normal.
@@beexiong2995 they must not be that bad bc people still drive them today.
Hello folks. I'm looking to buy a new truck in fall of this year. This will be my first truck. I will be upgrading from a vw golf lol. Given my life style, I love camping and i don't mind long distance driving. I live in Northern Alberta Canada and we get pretty crazy winters out here. Without being biased, would you recommend a 2023 GMC Canyon AT4 (not atx4) or the 2023 Nissan Frontier Pro4x ? Which is more reliable and trusting?
get a titan
Colorado is hands down the best looking midsize truck and the ZR2 destroys them all.
@DevilDog53 your damn right about that bud. I have no doubt I'm not a flamer
Colorado for me
Nissan all the way for me mainly because of the fuel injected V6, as long as I can still avoid it I wont be buying any turbo 4 bangers...I keep my trucks for a long time and I have seen too many very expensive issues with Turbo engines in the long run
Yea I'm looking at a frontier or a 22 colorado. V6 for me thanks.
Can tell it's brutally cold by the blue sky and the sound the snow is making when walking.
I don't trust gm unless it's a full size or a Camaro. I'll take the Frontier without hesitation
How many times will people fall for GM saying' But we fixed the quality '. Don't tell me show me.
I own a 2013 Frontier with 112,000 miles and it is still going strong. I understand the 2024 Frontier will still have the 3.8liter v6 with turbo. I’ll stay with the Frontier it’s just more reliable
Hey Tim up here in Ontario Canada there are tons of full size trucks but no midsize trucks to be found do you have the same problem and if so why? Thanks
I haven’t seen that around me.