I have to disagree with your wonderful daughter, this was definitely one of your best Mr EV videos. Completely unpredictable and so refreshingly honest that it had me howling in laughter at times especially the "it's a Tesla model X" exchange. More opinions from Mrs EV will see your subs rocket. Keep them coming :-)
The way she looks at the camera is as if her nemesis is on the other side. All three bring an interesting dynamic to the videos and the dog is probably taking down good notes on what is happening behind the scenes.
The Niro looks a fine car...but not for long trips. We have the Model 3 and there’s a heck of a lot of luggage space, but it’s not a ‘high’ car. We do long journeys via the supercharger network, and it’s effortless. We have a trip from England to Portugal and back planned (camping along the way when we’re allowed out), and ‘A Better Route Planner’ shows no problem areas...we find it very conservative, as we get more real-world mileage than it predicts at maximum speeds. If we wanted a high driving position, we’d have waited for the Model Y, but ergonomically there’s no need. Tesla’s are coming down in price bit by bit, which is a very good sign. Really enjoyed this entertaining video series.
I like this; balancing the pros and cons in between the obviously enthused husband and the more critical (Italian?) wife. This goes beyond EV vs. petrol but embarks on the individual’s expectations and frustrations. Brilliant! Wish you guys a wonderful life with fulfilling compromises. 😊
Hi Andrew As someone with an e-Niro on order and delivery "somewhere over the rainbow" I have been looking at insurance quotes. I think this might be an interesting area for a vid because I felt as though I was asking for a quote on a unicorn so high were the quotes. Any thoughts?
Well done Mrs EV, you have been honest and highlighted all the real issues. I love my EV, and it suits everything I need, but a great appraisal for your circumstance. Andrew, you tried mate but give up on the Tesla, she ain't gonna let you have one!!
This is the very first video I watched on your channel. Charming daughter and sharp minded wife you got there! You tried very hard to convince her to buy a Tesla. The truth is that her female instinct kicked in here and saved you all from having quality problems with any Teslas. KIA is far more reliable in the long term than Teslas. Btw, Tesla at $1000/share is a good price to sell out. In Norway, where Tesla used to dominate, their market share is dropping fast due to quality problems. Within the next 3 years, every petrol station in Europe will have 50 KW DC Fast Chargers. Your E-Niro is a keeper!
Thanks very much! We love the e-Niro and won’t be getting a Tesla any time soon. The software really needs to catch up on all other manufacturers’ cars though as that is, I think, where Teslas really shine.
A year from now most of the Teslas delivered in Europe and the UK will be built in China or Germany. Initial reports are that the Teslas built in the brand new factory in Shanghai are very nicely made. And I suspect the German made ones will be even better...
Congrats again for this third part! Nice to meet your wife and daughter. Their comments are great. Hoping they both follow you on promoting a more sustainable transportation system and a cleaner world. And exact 30 minutes again, you got it!
I like your wife's honesty she says it how it is. I took my wife on a road trip to the south of France a few years ago in a Mitsubishi ASX diesel no range anxiety problems but she wont go again because too much time in a car is what she did not like, I would do it again at the drop of a hat. I now have a plug in hybrid and as much as I really would like to go full ev I have my reservations about the charging infrastructure, reliability of the chargers and the payment methods are too complex. Looking forward to your UK road trip video.
Thanks Keith! A plug-in hybrid is a great stepping stone for when you do decide to take the plunge and go full EV. The infrastructure certainly needs work although IONITY, Fastned etc are fantastic. It’s the car software that perhaps needs to improve more than anything else - hence why Tesla has the lead.
Brilliant video , charming family and totally honest wife who was not bowing to your Tesla sales pitch. What a refreshing video and a great contrast between you both. I suspect a UK road trip with more - as your wife says hotels with chargers etc etc and planning will be more enjoyable . An honest video and great to watch even if your wife is not keen on videoing.
Thank you to everyone that asked questions for us to discuss! The video was getting far too long so I just included a few - I will answer to you directly in the comments section if I haven’t already. Also, one of the most important things to discuss is probably IONITY’s high pricing but I’m going to talk about that - specifically how you can still get it cheap - on another video!
Really great videos, thank you to you and your family! How would you say that this trip would have gone with the Ioniq 5? You mention faster charging on the Tesla would have helped, and this has very fast changing. Also curious about the efficiency of the Ioniq 5 vs the E-Niro.
First of all: what a great family! I just love the humorous / sarcastic answers Flaviana gives at times. You're doing great on camera, you should always co-host Andrew's shows. Thank you very much for the three videos. We're getting our e-Soul 64kWh in a few weeks and I cannot wait for doing a road trip: We're loving road trips. USA, Mexico, wherever we're going, we're doing a road trip. And we will love doing it with an EV. Thanks for all your videos. You helped me deciding to get a Kia e-Soul - the e-Niro was the only other choice after I saw how ugly and cheap the ID.3 lookes inside and how expensive the Tesla in the end is when you add all the things Kia just includes.
Brilliant video.. You have to love the honesty of the Italians and half italians.. "The Model 3 is ugly" had me nearly spitting my tea out. My daughter has been dating a half Italian guy for quite a few years and his father is very much like your wife and says it as it is. There's no doubt doing that journey in a Tesla would be so much easier, but then it's the things that are mildly stressful at the time become funny when you look back at them, the Tesla would be anti-climactic. How large is the Mercedes EQC compared to a Model X?
Yes, Italians are priceless! I know what you mean about the Tesla being anti-climatic: if we had done the trip in a Model 3, it would have been much easier but far less entertaining! The Model X is quite a bit bigger than the EQC: pickanev.com/compare-electric/cars/mercedes-benz/eqc/400/with/tesla/model-x/long-range/with
LOL!!! 😂 I love this video, your dialogue with your wife was great fun to watch. Congrats on your wonderful family. Living in a binational family for more than 30 years and owning an e-Niro for 15 months, I would love to welcome you in Northern Germany during your next road trip.
Great presentation, and really enjoyed your wife’s expressions. Being half Italian I certainly could enjoy what she was saying with the expressions. You have a lovely family! Thanks for giving an insight into your trip very enjoyable.
I will NEVER see a video without an italian taste anymore! Thx a lot, you made me laugh all time long. I felt like my first Asterix read hot water and so. Yes englishmen are great but their wives and daughters are huge! Big fan. Really! Please do it again!
Hi Andrew my wife and I both drive model 3s they are fab we have 3 kids we have never had any space issues we also have a roof box for model 3 for road trips been to south of France the supercharger network is unbelievablely good no issues at all very easy we drove from Dover to Reims on a single charge easy I had a model s before the model 3 S is a better car for looks but the model 3 is a truly remarkable EV both cars are the performance model great videos keep up the great videos 😁👍👌🏴
You wife is right there is less stress with an ICE car on a trip like that. This I think, hope, will change as more charge points become available, especially charging hubs on major highways, but that’s not for a few years yet. Oh and I drive a Hyundai Kona Electric but I’m not sure I’d head for Europe in it yet. We do however travel all over Europe in our motorhome and I would in a Tesla, my next car.
I think a combination of more charger locations and improvement in batteries in the next few years and any advantages ICE have will all but gone. I think critical mass however will occur when charging speeds improvements have doubled. Halving wait times at public rapid chargers I think is just as important as availability of chargers.
@@aquissuk There suspicions that fast charging are not good for the battery, Bjorn Nyland has done a video on this and to be honest I am not surprised. I have not got an EV yet but I am determined to get one, the e-Niro or MG ZS being the likely candidates. Yes we need a better infrastructure, with the ability to graze more often in supermarket car parks etc and destination chargers, it will happen. One day we might even see untethered charging every where we go, just like we can get with phones.
Amusing video with a great differing of views within your family. Ultimately, road trips aren't for everyone regardless of what fuel you use. I'll be taking my MG ZS EV on a trip to Geneva next spring so we'll see how it goes; fortunately my kids are too old for road trips with their parents! As your wife so astutely mentioned in the video, destination chargers are the way to go and keeping the distance travelled down to 250/300 miles helps also. Finally, the use/availability of IONITY definitely helps. I use MAINGAU to keep the cost down - isn't it typical that you have to sign up with a German energy company to get cheaper electrons for your EV in the UK (and Europe)!!
Thanks Nick! I’ve just got a Chargepoint RFID which also makes IONITY cheap again. I’ll do a video about it in the week. Hopefully the Corri-door chargers will be switched back on by then - something like 97% of them are out of order at the moment although with the increased number of IONITY chargers in France now, you should find the trip far simpler than we did.
Andrew, you are one brave man, baring all on video like that, but it’s exactly what people respect and what’s missing from 90% of online content. It’s obvious you love the Kia and believe in electrification, but you’re being utterly transparent by allowing all the experiences, good, bad and indifferent, to get a fair airing. Your Wife is refreshingly honest (to a fault) and your daughter, delightful. Reading the comments, everyone seems to agree. I think Tesla should lend you a Model X for a trip and if they saw this, I reckon they would. Brilliant.
A+ grade in hearing of your real life road trip from a family point of view. Much more informative than hearing all of the brain dead car reviews. Thank you for sharing this experience of how an EV trip experience would feel.
Your wife's comments had me roaring with laughter! We have very similar discussions in our family! Nice to know I am not alone. More videos like this :)
I leased a 2019 eNiro in Portland Oregon, USA in May and drove it to Grand Junction, Colorado 1100 miles/1779 Km. I did it in 2.5 days using Volkswagen’s Electrify America fast charging. It was costly but generally used the 20% to 80% rule and drove about 80 mph/130 kph for the drive. I went between 150 and 180 miles between charges. Most charges cost me between $16 and $21. It was just me in the car and not much luggage. I had a great time. Thanks for your video’s. Your content was a large reason I got my eNiro.
I like this video a lot 👍. You mention all the challenges you had with an ev which is unfortunately still the truth. I think for roadtrips a Tesla is the way to go. Not because it’s a better car, but because of the supercharger network. I‘ m starting a trip tomorrow from Dortmund, Germany to Croatia with my family and I‘m totally relaxed regarding charging. By the way, I like your wife. She is so funny and brings the things to the point. I like to see more of your family discussions 😊👍
I have a Tesla 3, it has a huge amount of luggage space, far more than the Nero. Without the roof box you would be getting a good distance. My long range is 350 miles, probably 320 on this journey, but a standard would not be enough for you. Anyway, great video, thank you and your family.
Seeing the boot/trunk in better conditions would help. A quick look in the showroom didn’t do it justice. I think the Standard Range Plus would be okay, actually. It charges faster and the Supercharger network makes it much easier, even with a lower range.
Thank you to you and your family - much appreciated. The Niro seems to be a good choice if you plan your trips. The Tesla charging network is great but at a price - have been looking at a theoretical trip to Northumberland area - not so good. Anyway will go EV sometime soon and will be following your Niro story closely.
Hello Andrew, the idea to integrate your family to this review of your road trip is the best idea ever :-) It is so honestly an entertainingly at the same time. I did a lot of road trips, but not in en ev on this long distance to arrive at final destination. Thanks a lot also to Flaviana for her honest point of view and the differencing between "horrible" road trips an EV's in general. It is so much fun to watch to both of you. Maybe you do more Videos with Flaviana together. Thanks :-)
We did 1600 miles into France and back with our five and seven year olds in our model 3. It wasn’t just easy, it was fun and we had (a tiny bit) space left after all our things were in. The only problem we have had is my wife kicking off some of the seat controls but a Tesla ranger is coming to the house to replace them free of charge soon. Never been keen on Elon and was wary of Tesla quality but am a convert.
before having the e-golf, we had a BMW 225xe which is a plug-in hybrid. although you don't have 'range enxiety`, you actually lost a lot of full electric range just because of the extra weight of the double engine and the fuel itself. And also becuase of the same reason it has a below then avarage fuel economy. so doing a long road trip would be really costly
Thanks for that refreshing and natural video with your beautiful family! It is good to hear the opinions of all family members. It's incredible that you have taken this long journey. But it was totally interesting, because this is a real, albeit rare, requirement. We are just waiting for our e-Niro. Your videos raise the desire for the car. Greetings from Germany, Peter
I think when an app such as WattsUp get an Android Auto or CarPlay integration going with its Discovery Mode, many of the Tesla refinements will become quite common to all cars. Just this week the Jaguar I-Pace has changed its infotainment system for a new one, that will start to include realtime charge data of various networks. Innovation in the sector is starting to get interesting.
I agree: it’s the software more than the Supercharger network that makes Teslas so much better. iOS 14 will make it much easier in that regard it seems.
Lovely video and a great family. Absolutely loved the dynamics. I think it's unfair to ask about a Tesla because like most of life you have to make compromises. Your Kia Niro is great because it's perfect for your day-to-day use with the headroom and storage you need. You don't go on a road trip every day. The compromise is that when you *do* go on one, you need to plan a bit - perhaps a lot! - more. There's no doubt, though, that a Tesla makes road trips a breeze. We still check where we might stop and charge, especially in a Tesla desert like the south-west of France where we have our second home. But we've never felt anywhere close to the battery limit and that's charging consistently between 40 and 80%. Your wife is spot on though: we're a couple with grown-up kids. We couldn't have done our regular travel down France each year with the three of them in the back of a Model 3. In fact even with an SUV we were also towing a trailer on occasions. But that was when I was doing things like taking a complete Magnet kitchen including the sink to fit in France along with camping gear, and bringing back loads of beer and wine. 😁
So you literally took the kitchen sink?! Brilliant! Thank you for your kind comments. I do wonder if we’d fill whatever size of car we have. Mainly with our daughter’s toys, probably.
Awww your family is so cute. And your wife shouldn't be shy before the cam. She looks great. Thank you for this honest roadtrip videos. I liked it. I'm not having a Kia soon. But it was interesting to watch it. Did you tried the app ABRP on the trip? Would know if this apps works well if anyone know it. I'm happy about requests. We are still waiting on the Hyundai Kona Electric 😬🤔🙏 thanxs for the videos. Have a good Sunday greetings from Switzerland 🇨🇭👍
Thanks Sandra! Yes, we used ABRP the whole time. It was brilliant! Hyundai are guaranteeing deliveries will only take “a few days” in the UK now so I imagine they’re making a lot now. Fingers crossed you get your lovely Kona soon!
A really excellent video Andrew! So refreshing to hear a real family discussing and directing a road trip on what did and didn't work and what will help on the next one. Really helpful. My e-Niro 2021 model arrives in a few weeks so I have been glued to your channel recently and so far.....mildly encouraging! This vid is great for us as we plan to travel road trips as a family and I'll be using it for fairly regular long journeys for work 😰😰😰
A couple of take-aways for me from your experience - first would be to try to avoid a roof box and to carefully consider if a slower cruising speed could actually take no more time when allowing for charge stops. I have driven to Italy several times but I am not sure if I would have attempted it in an EV - the one situation where I would currently prefer internal combustion. I have done several long runs in the last week and I regularly saw a range of ~750 miles for my smaller diesel.
Totally agree about the toll booths! When you are driving alone in a UK car, you have to undo your seatbelt, get out of the car, get your credit card out and pay! That wouldn't be too much of a problem if your car (Jaguar I-Pace) turned the car off as soon as you open the drivers door! This is ridiculous and Jaguar can't or won't understand that this IS A PROBLEM! After a short time the lights go out and your car has NO lights and is in danger of a truck or car hitting you if the street lighting is off! Oh what commonsense your wife has, except the I-Pace isn't big! Tesla Model X is enormous and so wide! Publicity photos make the car look like they want to see|! Your daughter has a pretty balanced view on life as well, she certainly knows the lingo!
Thanks for the great video, and lots of fun, too, Andrew and family. Your wife is so like my late aunt, who came from near Milano. She has an uncannily similar voice and way of speaking. Serious point now: It beats me how there were only 2 adults, one child and a dog in a car that size, you were not self-catering, and yet you needed a full roof box? I drove a small hatchback; the Metro, and then a Rover 111, on numerous occasions, years ago, with, on a few occasions, four adults in it, plus luggage, and food, for a 15- day self-catering holiday, and we still had room for gifts, etc, to take back home with us. True story. But your experience raises a serious question: Is the e-Niro really that limited for cargo space?
Thank you! The e-Niro has loads of space but we took far too many of Aurelia’s toys and the roof box was needed to bring back loads of things from Rome. I’m sure we could manage without the roof box if we did it again!
@@MrEV Thanks for the reply, Andrew. I finished watching the video, and agree that those two unavoidable things were the real issue. Long distance travel in any vehicle is very much a matter of mindset. Eliminate unnecessary items first. Then make best use of space available, so that you can still travel in comfort. Mrs. RWB always manages to use luggage space very inefficiently, so I load the car. It's also wise to remove quietly the items which women take, and which are always available at the destination. You'll enjoy Snowdonia, but avoid it until late August through to the first week of October, when the weather can be much better than earlier in the Summer. It's the -rain- 'liquid Silver' which keeps Wales green!
Your family are beautiful and very funny! A long road trip is always going to be a bit more taxing with the whole family, it was good to hear that the length of charging stops was not an issue since you needed to have a break anyway. This is what I find driving an EV, I quite enjoy the enforced breaks. Your videos may have looked like you were stopping to charge very often, when in fact in-between each video clip was several hours of driving! I'm very impressed with the maps that you make for your videos. What software do you use to make these?
Snowdonia road trip will be a doddle! Your most welcome to come and visit. I know some nice places you could stay in the mountains with destination EV charging 😀
Thanks Glyn! I agree. I may have said before, but I think when charging stops are the same length as a petrol refill it’ll be quite a shame! I didn’t have any special software to make the maps actually. I just took a high-res screenshot of Europe from Apple Maps, then added all the stops and route lines in Apple Motion (along with the camera movements). It wasn’t a quick process, hence the time it took to get it edited and published! I’m going to try and write some software to do it all for me next time I think. It’d probably be quicker!
Don't think you're winning the Tesla battle Andrew 😂 As an I-Pace owner myself, I really wouldn't change it, the interior is as big as my last E-Class and has a bigger boot. I'm getting a solid 240-250 miles atm with it. Jaguar are working on the J-Pace which will Discovery / F-Pace size, so should be more inline with Model X. The build quality of your Kia is far better than anything Tesla are churning out atm.
Martin Pitt Had it not been for Tesla there would be no I-pace and Tesla’s electronic are light years ahead of everyone else. I agree though build quality is a bit lacking however the build of the model Y is up with most manufacturers..
Hilarious! I had to play this to my wife. She has exactly the same opinion as your wife! And we only drove 650 km in one go in bmw i3s. And she also likes big cars (we just bought 2018 VW Touareg) and she would like to order Cybertruck. :-)))
Yes and no. The Corri-door network is 97% offline in France so that may make things more difficult. On the other hand, there are more IONITY chargers. I had planned to do it myself this year (with the girls going by train) but then Covid happened...
I think Flaviana is right that taking the train is actually a less stressful and more obvious way for a family to travel to Italy. It's also the lowest carbon with European railways generally being electric.
Excellent video. Good to have some real balance from the EV fan side (I'm similar lol) . Having your wife and daughter participate was genius Very informative, but also utterly hilarious.
Road trips of the kind you did are not for kids, they are not interested in places, only the destination so they can get out and play with other kids. Trust me I know having done many both in a car and our motorhome.. leave the long trip by car until your little one’s grown up as it’s not fair on them stuck in a car for days.
Brilliant Video its great to here comments from your wife and daughter as you may know I have the E Nero 4 only just done over 1500 miles but I think you would like it even more. Planning to look at the model Y in a couple of years but still think E Nero hard to beat for price best wishes to both better planning may of made your trip less stressful !!
Your wife and daughter are a brilliant double act to your straight man delivery.😁 What a refreshingly honest review of your road trip and EV experience. Maybe try it again "borrowing" a Model X and see if it lives up to your expectations.
I’m actually a little worried it won’t. I hired a Model S once and, although very impressive (and fast!), it left me a little cold for some reason. Perhaps because it’s so wide I was terrified of scratching the alloys!
Hello mr.EV(and family), I loved your videos... I am an italian owner of a model3 sr+ and i've just done my first trip to holidays, a 5 hours journey from Milano to Follonica with a night at Firenze. I disagree with your wife about the space inside of the car: we are a family with 2 kids (8 and 4 yo) and we packed everything in the trunk (even 2 boxes of grocery and food) plus my trolley in the frunk. I can confirm no range anxiety at all with the tesla software. I know you are aware of Maingau, i've tested at an Ionity charging station in Italy and it works and it's cheap: 0,39€/kWh. It's even less than Enel-X AC charging (which works also with the Maingau app, but not with it's rfid card).
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Great video. Also think it`s a great EV. Your wife said same as mine, Tesla 3 is ugly and a toy car..... (I have a E-Niro and an I-Pace). She loves the I-Pace and the E-Niro.... there is only one anoying thing....it should be 4 wheel drive. With all that torq you really need better grip/traction. I-Pace does that perfectly. Thank you for great videos!
That’s so true. I’m hoping Kia announce an 4WD e-Niro for the 2022 model year. What a great couple of cars you have! The I-Pace is an absolute stunner.
We did a motorbike trip to Italy in 2017 and we did agree it was hard work and would have been easier in a car, but it did provide a lot of memories. PS - I had every hotel booked with a daily itinerary however I think it was even more stressful than winging it day by day, but we were on a time budget. Can’t wait to retire and not have to worry about time. Looking forward to (affordable) electric motor homes!!
That’s interesting. I suppose the moral of the story is it’s hard work whether organised well or not! As for retiring and getting an electric motor home - that’s the dream! I can’t wait for some Tesla Semi conversions.
I would be really interested in a video about driving in England, having to rely only on public chargers at all times, with a roofbox weighing 75kg total weight on the car at all times. The roofbox would normally hold a winch and storage for a wheelchair. I'm very curious as to what that would do to the range when travelling at british speed limits.
Nice video! Seems like an escape to post a road trip during lockdown! I would disagree on leasing... If you can purchase you benifit from price inflation, and no mileage limits. Also lease seemed very expensive at the time 800£ pm 3year
Certainly if someone can afford to buy an EV outright then that makes a lot of sense as EVs depreciate far less. Had we bought the e-Niro, I think we’d be able to sell next year and not lose anything. Our e-Niro is leased through the business - about £500/month for two years with no deposit - so it’s a very cost effective way of getting it.
@@MrEV I paid 33.5k and new eNiro costs I think 35-36k now. I am sure i will be able to sell after 3years with low or little loss. Its crazy. Also eNiro/Kona are about 2-3 years ahead of the game for good value EVs.
I drive a Tesla Mode3. My choice was very much dictated by the Tesla 'Superchargers Network' . It is not true that there are more petrol stations than public chargers. The opposite is true! The problem is that you have to join or subscribe to the many different suppliers. Then they use different form of payment. That is why a decided to buy a Tesla. You just plug-in and charge. The payment is them made directly from your credit card. But you had a nice adventure. Well done.
Yes, I thought this was a great video. Your wife and daughter interacting was so pleasant to see. And you never what's going to come out of a mouth from a child. So I thought she did perfect on camera. And tell your wife she has nothing to worry about oh, she did wonderfully. I wanted to see your comments about the model 3. I feel the same way that your wife feels, it's just not big enough. I didn't realize how small it was until I test drove it. Too short, not a hatchback, fun if you're single or a couple. And for me, the only real competition to it is the Kia Niro EV. The kia is so difficult to get in the USA. They're here, but not many of them. So the dealers are very tight with money and offer no discounts. But this was a fun video with the family. First time I've seen your channel and I subscribed already. Thanks for the help, the comments and advice. Hopefully I'll get an e Niro Before Christmas.
Thanks for your kind comments! Kia are finally improving availability in Europe; I hope they do the same in America as it’s such a great car and, as you say, the only real competition to the Model 3.
A little more planning helps. Hotels, destination chargers, rest stops, trip planning software, a better route planner software has many options to increase accuracy..
Only way a long trip on an ev would work is by calling the hotels and getting to know if there would be a destination chargers available reserved for you...
Nonsense. It is perfectly possible to do it stress-free in the right EV with a supporting charging infrastructure. We did just that down France and into Spain. The biggest pain would have been motorway tolls but now we have a Télépéage dongle and just drive through the toll stations without stopping.
@@reeshar1234 destination chargers would be more comfortable .. as you can charge the car to 100% while you sleep . By destination chargers I mean the slow charging kind provided by the hotels you stay in....
@@parthasarathyvenkatadri Oh I agree. And we do use them when they're available. But on a long journey you also need to use fast chargers. 250kW chargers and cars such as the Model 3 make all the difference. With enough chargers - and there *are* just enough Tesla chargers to do this - you charge in the optimal range of 40-80% which only takes about 15-20 minutes, barely enough time to stretch your legs and use toilet facilities.
Very well done Mister EV. Enjoyed watching this Video. I‘m sure many EV husbands and EV fathers are in the same situation. I‘m sure things are getting much better concerning chargers and range in a few months.
Andrew, as many others also said: Model 3 has LOTS of space! The frunk is good for a cabin trolley, the niche in the boot is good for another one. And then the boot is about the size of Audi e-Tron's (loaded to the window level). Do you have an opportunity to loan a Model 3 for a week or two? Maybe trade e-Niro with someone for a few days? It could have an interesting learning effect on your family - and a good story for your channel too! Real life comparisons are so seldom...
So much joy ... LOL I love the video. ;) Great travelogue and very authentic. I am curious if it will be a T3 after all, but in the E-Niro 2020 with the 3-phase charger this might have been a bit more relaxed. Please keep making great videos. Thx!
The e-tron and ipace are really inefficient - going half the distance per kWh compared with other cars, they have massive batteries, avoid - real problems with build. We looked at the e-nero and drove it, and tesla 3 - and the tesla has twice the luggage space. You wife wants a SUV so I should wait for the model Y as it is wider and higher than the 3. I have the tesla 3, love the car, seats much more comfy than the nero and kia, and most important, my wife loves it too. Good luck.
If Aurelia has the casting vote over your staycation road trip, enjoy Snowdonia. We’re going to Criccieth for two weeks, with so many adventures to enjoy, from beaches to mountains, castles and more around Snowdonia. You’ll still be in trouble for real (roof box motorway ragging your e-Nero) range not matching mixed cycle quoted range, but I’m looking forward to seeing how you get on practising your Cymraeg.
Heyup Andrew, can I just say that your wife and daughter are bloody brilliant. Sooooo honest and I love that. You’ve got your work cut out with those two ha ha ha
I have thoroughly enjoyed this series of videos with you and your wonderful family. A road trip around the UK should be no less exciting, I can’t wait for this years journey! In time, the Tesla Model Y may provide the space of the Kia and the convenience of Tesla software?
Part of the issue with having the 20% battery charge threshold is that if you charge to 80% max in order to ensure a quick speed of charging then you are effectively only using 60% of the battery.
@@MrEV I’ve just watched that one. You seemed a lot more at ease with the longer drive and charging associated in that road trip. Please keep up the good work you are enjoyable to watch and provide good insight to being an EV owner.
Funny video 😁 I loved how you kept trying to convince your wife about Tesla and it all backfired even with the X which you knew she was loving 😂 Anyways, it's refreshing to see your honest opinions (including the girls) and not being biased at all. Charging should be as easy as reaching a watt station plugging in and worry about the payment later (or earlier with prepaid credit). But for now you have to think of where to go next, how many and what chargers are there, if there are any available or even functional. This is really a big problem for now on long inter-state trips. But I think on a UK tour you'll be just fine, especially with a bit of planning ahead and the experience 😊 You've gained a new subscriber with this "not very good video". Cheers!
Think I’ll show this family video to my Italian partner. She wouldn’t last on the first two videos (too techi for her) but on this I have a chance of holding her attention. Plus it will help her get some perspective before deciding if we want to do a family drive to her parents in Italy 🇮🇹 from Scotland 🏴, which is not in England 🏴😉.
I think Model 3 has about the same, if not more space than Kia E-Niro. It isn't as tall as E-Niro tho. Model X would also not be as much fun in Italy - with super-narrow roads. But I suppose, in Italy - bigger cars have priority - so no wonder Italian person wants the bigger car ;-)
What a lovely family you have and thanks for the great content. We are heading over too France then Switzerland in August for 2 and half weeks in our Tesla Model 3 with my wife and 5 year old daughter. Really looking forward to it. Have done this many times before our daughter was born in 2 seater sports cars with 6 cylinder engines but very limited space. We had a 3 series BMW before the Model 3 and find the TM3 to have much more storage and cabin space for the 3 of us than the bmw ever did?
What a great trip you’ll have! I think it’s just the lack of a hatch that gave Flaviana the impression of a smaller boot. We’ll see one in the flesh very soon though so we can look properly... I can’t wait!
I have to disagree with your wonderful daughter, this was definitely one of your best Mr EV videos. Completely unpredictable and so refreshingly honest that it had me howling in laughter at times especially the "it's a Tesla model X" exchange. More opinions from Mrs EV will see your subs rocket. Keep them coming :-)
I agree. So entertaining!
Thank you! I’ll be sure to rope her in for another video soon.
Flaviana is super on the video. Great style and honesty.
The way she looks at the camera is as if her nemesis is on the other side. All three bring an interesting dynamic to the videos and the dog is probably taking down good notes on what is happening behind the scenes.
The Niro looks a fine car...but not for long trips.
We have the Model 3 and there’s a heck of a lot of luggage space, but it’s not a ‘high’ car. We do long journeys via the supercharger network, and it’s effortless. We have a trip from England to Portugal and back planned (camping along the way when we’re allowed out), and ‘A Better Route Planner’ shows no problem areas...we find it very conservative, as we get more real-world mileage than it predicts at maximum speeds.
If we wanted a high driving position, we’d have waited for the Model Y, but ergonomically there’s no need.
Tesla’s are coming down in price bit by bit, which is a very good sign.
Really enjoyed this entertaining video series.
I like this; balancing the pros and cons in between the obviously enthused husband and the more critical (Italian?) wife. This goes beyond EV vs. petrol but embarks on the individual’s expectations and frustrations. Brilliant! Wish you guys a wonderful life with fulfilling compromises. 😊
“Where shall we go in England?” “Scotland! Wales!”. Ouch! 😁
Hmmm yeah that's fighting talk 🤣
Flaviana’s citizenship is being rescinded as I type. 😃
@@MrEV 😂
Hi Andrew
As someone with an e-Niro on order and delivery "somewhere over the rainbow" I have been looking at insurance quotes. I think this might be an interesting area for a vid because I felt as though I was asking for a quote on a unicorn so high were the quotes. Any thoughts?
@@philipsarell2467 We’re with Direct line...£301 a year (SR+). Apparently LV Insurance understand and Taylor insurance for EVs.
What a great video and lovely family :) Your wife is brutally honest and funny, and your daughter is hilarious ("This is the worst Mr EV ever")!
Thanks very much Mark!
Your wife deserves a model x. Loved this road trip series especially the family chat. Tell your charming daughter that this was the best Mr. EV video.
Yeah, because they are so cheap. What's money anyway.
"I think we have to cut here" LOL
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Maybe you will have to turn into Mr Hybrid....Your darling wife just cracked me up! 😂😂
Well done Mrs EV, you have been honest and highlighted all the real issues. I love my EV, and it suits everything I need, but a great appraisal for your circumstance. Andrew, you tried mate but give up on the Tesla, she ain't gonna let you have one!!
Never give up! Never surrender!
@@MrEV honestly try a model s , the inside is enormous
@@stopburningstuff649 Still not SUV, not fancy enough for the wife, model Y is the way.
Andrew, you have the patience of a saint. Against someone who has such a closed mind, I don't know how you do it.
This is the very first video I watched on your channel. Charming daughter and sharp minded wife you got there! You tried very hard to convince her to buy a Tesla. The truth is that her female instinct kicked in here and saved you all from having quality problems with any Teslas. KIA is far more reliable in the long term than Teslas. Btw, Tesla at $1000/share is a good price to sell out. In Norway, where Tesla used to dominate, their market share is dropping fast due to quality problems. Within the next 3 years, every petrol station in Europe will have 50 KW DC Fast Chargers. Your E-Niro is a keeper!
Thanks very much! We love the e-Niro and won’t be getting a Tesla any time soon. The software really needs to catch up on all other manufacturers’ cars though as that is, I think, where Teslas really shine.
A year from now most of the Teslas delivered in Europe and the UK will be built in China or Germany. Initial reports are that the Teslas built in the brand new factory in Shanghai are very nicely made. And I suspect the German made ones will be even better...
Congrats again for this third part! Nice to meet your wife and daughter. Their comments are great. Hoping they both follow you on promoting a more sustainable transportation system and a cleaner world. And exact 30 minutes again, you got it!
Thanks José! Although RUclips is showing me that the time is 30:01. Nooo!
I like your wife's honesty she says it how it is. I took my wife on a road trip to the south of France a few years ago in a Mitsubishi ASX diesel no range anxiety problems but she wont go again because too much time in a car is what she did not like, I would do it again at the drop of a hat. I now have a plug in hybrid and as much as I really would like to go full ev I have my reservations about the charging infrastructure, reliability of the chargers and the payment methods are too complex. Looking forward to your UK road trip video.
Thanks Keith! A plug-in hybrid is a great stepping stone for when you do decide to take the plunge and go full EV. The infrastructure certainly needs work although IONITY, Fastned etc are fantastic. It’s the car software that perhaps needs to improve more than anything else - hence why Tesla has the lead.
Hi Andrew, great family video. Do you know if the software is the same in the model 4/4+?
Well you've proved you can do a road trip. But you just have to plan. Nice to see a families perspective. Thanks for sharing.
Until charging becomes automatic,and as easy as a Ice car. I.e. you don't need to plan. Tesla is the answer
Brilliant video , charming family and totally honest wife who was not bowing to your Tesla sales pitch. What a refreshing video and a great contrast between you both. I suspect a UK road trip with more - as your wife says hotels with chargers etc etc and planning will be more enjoyable . An honest video and great to watch even if your wife is not keen on videoing.
Thank you to everyone that asked questions for us to discuss! The video was getting far too long so I just included a few - I will answer to you directly in the comments section if I haven’t already.
Also, one of the most important things to discuss is probably IONITY’s high pricing but I’m going to talk about that - specifically how you can still get it cheap - on another video!
Really great videos, thank you to you and your family!
How would you say that this trip would have gone with the Ioniq 5? You mention faster charging on the Tesla would have helped, and this has very fast changing. Also curious about the efficiency of the Ioniq 5 vs the E-Niro.
First of all: what a great family!
I just love the humorous / sarcastic answers Flaviana gives at times. You're doing great on camera, you should always co-host Andrew's shows.
Thank you very much for the three videos. We're getting our e-Soul 64kWh in a few weeks and I cannot wait for doing a road trip: We're loving road trips. USA, Mexico, wherever we're going, we're doing a road trip.
And we will love doing it with an EV.
Thanks for all your videos. You helped me deciding to get a Kia e-Soul - the e-Niro was the only other choice after I saw how ugly and cheap the ID.3 lookes inside and how expensive the Tesla in the end is when you add all the things Kia just includes.
Brilliant video.. You have to love the honesty of the Italians and half italians.. "The Model 3 is ugly" had me nearly spitting my tea out. My daughter has been dating a half Italian guy for quite a few years and his father is very much like your wife and says it as it is.
There's no doubt doing that journey in a Tesla would be so much easier, but then it's the things that are mildly stressful at the time become funny when you look back at them, the Tesla would be anti-climactic. How large is the Mercedes EQC compared to a Model X?
Yes, Italians are priceless! I know what you mean about the Tesla being anti-climatic: if we had done the trip in a Model 3, it would have been much easier but far less entertaining!
The Model X is quite a bit bigger than the EQC: pickanev.com/compare-electric/cars/mercedes-benz/eqc/400/with/tesla/model-x/long-range/with
LOL!!! 😂 I love this video, your dialogue with your wife was great fun to watch. Congrats on your wonderful family. Living in a binational family for more than 30 years and owning an e-Niro for 15 months, I would love to welcome you in Northern Germany during your next road trip.
Great presentation, and really enjoyed your wife’s expressions. Being half Italian I certainly could enjoy what she was saying with the expressions. You have a lovely family! Thanks for giving an insight into your trip very enjoyable.
I will NEVER see a video without an italian taste anymore! Thx a lot, you made me laugh all time long. I felt like my first Asterix read hot water and so. Yes englishmen are great but their wives and daughters are huge! Big fan. Really! Please do it again!
I’ll certainly try to book them for another video!
Great video Andrew! Including the family made for great viewing. So typical, my wife and me and daughter did a USA road trip...I can empathise :)
Thanks Paul!
I loved that Andrew. My favourite of the “Italian Trilogy” I especially enjoyed Mrs EV reinventing the range extender!
Hi Andrew my wife and I both drive model 3s they are fab we have 3 kids we have never had any space issues we also have a roof box for model 3 for road trips been to south of France the supercharger network is unbelievablely good no issues at all very easy we drove from Dover to Reims on a single charge easy I had a model s before the model 3 S is a better car for looks but the model 3 is a truly remarkable EV both cars are the performance model great videos keep up the great videos 😁👍👌🏴
You wife is right there is less stress with an ICE car on a trip like that. This I think, hope, will change as more charge points become available, especially charging hubs on major highways, but that’s not for a few years yet. Oh and I drive a Hyundai Kona Electric but I’m not sure I’d head for Europe in it yet. We do however travel all over Europe in our motorhome and I would in a Tesla, my next car.
I think a combination of more charger locations and improvement in batteries in the next few years and any advantages ICE have will all but gone. I think critical mass however will occur when charging speeds improvements have doubled. Halving wait times at public rapid chargers I think is just as important as availability of chargers.
@@aquissuk There suspicions that fast charging are not good for the battery, Bjorn Nyland has done a video on this and to be honest I am not surprised. I have not got an EV yet but I am determined to get one, the e-Niro or MG ZS being the likely candidates. Yes we need a better infrastructure, with the ability to graze more often in supermarket car parks etc and destination chargers, it will happen. One day we might even see untethered charging every where we go, just like we can get with phones.
Amusing video with a great differing of views within your family. Ultimately, road trips aren't for everyone regardless of what fuel you use. I'll be taking my MG ZS EV on a trip to Geneva next spring so we'll see how it goes; fortunately my kids are too old for road trips with their parents! As your wife so astutely mentioned in the video, destination chargers are the way to go and keeping the distance travelled down to 250/300 miles helps also. Finally, the use/availability of IONITY definitely helps. I use MAINGAU to keep the cost down - isn't it typical that you have to sign up with a German energy company to get cheaper electrons for your EV in the UK (and Europe)!!
Thanks Nick! I’ve just got a Chargepoint RFID which also makes IONITY cheap again. I’ll do a video about it in the week.
Hopefully the Corri-door chargers will be switched back on by then - something like 97% of them are out of order at the moment although with the increased number of IONITY chargers in France now, you should find the trip far simpler than we did.
Andrew, you are one brave man, baring all on video like that, but it’s exactly what people respect and what’s missing from 90% of online content. It’s obvious you love the Kia and believe in electrification, but you’re being utterly transparent by allowing all the experiences, good, bad and indifferent, to get a fair airing. Your Wife is refreshingly honest (to a fault) and your daughter, delightful. Reading the comments, everyone seems to agree. I think Tesla should lend you a Model X for a trip and if they saw this, I reckon they would. Brilliant.
Thanks Geoff! I’ll ask them nicely. 😃
A+ grade in hearing of your real life road trip from a family point of view. Much more informative than hearing all of the brain dead car reviews. Thank you for sharing this experience of how an EV trip experience would feel.
Your wife's comments had me roaring with laughter! We have very similar discussions in our family! Nice to know I am not alone. More videos like this :)
Did a shorter road trip shortly with both my Kia and my son’s Tesla. What a difference the Tesla experience makes; takes all the stress out.
Definitely. All EVs should be like that.
Great video Andrew, this has taught me when we get our EV to tell my wife everything about it, so there are no misunderstandings. :)
A fantastic, three-way, 360⁰ appraisal of the current world of motoring.
I leased a 2019 eNiro in Portland Oregon, USA in May and drove it to Grand Junction, Colorado 1100 miles/1779 Km. I did it in 2.5 days using Volkswagen’s Electrify America fast charging. It was costly but generally used the 20% to 80% rule and drove about 80 mph/130 kph for the drive. I went between 150 and 180 miles between charges. Most charges cost me between $16 and $21. It was just me in the car and not much luggage. I had a great time. Thanks for your video’s. Your content was a large reason I got my eNiro.
Thanks so much, Lance - great to hear Electrify America is so good. Certainly not cheap but if it’s reliable, it’s arguably worth the cost.
I like this video a lot 👍. You mention all the challenges you had with an ev which is unfortunately still the truth. I think for roadtrips a Tesla is the way to go. Not because it’s a better car, but because of the supercharger network. I‘ m starting a trip tomorrow from Dortmund, Germany to Croatia with my family and I‘m totally relaxed regarding charging. By the way, I like your wife. She is so funny and brings the things to the point. I like to see more of your family discussions 😊👍
I have a Tesla 3, it has a huge amount of luggage space, far more than the Nero. Without the roof box you would be getting a good distance. My long range is 350 miles, probably 320 on this journey, but a standard would not be enough for you. Anyway, great video, thank you and your family.
Seeing the boot/trunk in better conditions would help. A quick look in the showroom didn’t do it justice.
I think the Standard Range Plus would be okay, actually. It charges faster and the Supercharger network makes it much easier, even with a lower range.
Great overview with the family. Well done. Enjoyed watching. Look forward to your upcoming videos on the Niro.
Thanks David!
Thank you to you and your family - much appreciated. The Niro seems to be a good choice if you plan your trips. The Tesla charging network is great but at a price - have been looking at a theoretical trip to Northumberland area - not so good. Anyway will go EV sometime soon and will be following your Niro story closely.
Hello Andrew, the idea to integrate your family to this review of your road trip is the best idea ever :-)
It is so honestly an entertainingly at the same time. I did a lot of road trips, but not in en ev on this long distance to arrive at final destination.
Thanks a lot also to Flaviana for her honest point of view and the differencing between "horrible" road trips an EV's in general. It is so much fun to watch to both of you. Maybe you do more Videos with Flaviana together. Thanks :-)
Thanks very much, Tobi. I’m sure Flaviana will be featured again!
We did 1600 miles into France and back with our five and seven year olds in our model 3. It wasn’t just easy, it was fun and we had (a tiny bit) space left after all our things were in. The only problem we have had is my wife kicking off some of the seat controls but a Tesla ranger is coming to the house to replace them free of charge soon. Never been keen on Elon and was wary of Tesla quality but am a convert.
before having the e-golf, we had a BMW 225xe which is a plug-in hybrid. although you don't have 'range enxiety`, you actually lost a lot of full electric range just because of the extra weight of the double engine and the fuel itself. And also becuase of the same reason it has a below then avarage fuel economy. so doing a long road trip would be really costly
Thanks for that refreshing and natural video with your beautiful family! It is good to hear the opinions of all family members. It's incredible that you have taken this long journey. But it was totally interesting, because this is a real, albeit rare, requirement. We are just waiting for our e-Niro. Your videos raise the desire for the car. Greetings from Germany, Peter
Beautiful family and lovely interview 👍🏼beautiful Italian accent 🇮🇹
Thanks very much, Faz!
You can tell Aurelia that I think this is the best video yet!! I love the real nature of all your characters
Thanks Samuel - I’ll tell her!
This is a great video, Mrs EV gives some very frank opinions!
Well done all 3 loved every minute of your video!!!
Thanks so much!
I think when an app such as WattsUp get an Android Auto or CarPlay integration going with its Discovery Mode, many of the Tesla refinements will become quite common to all cars. Just this week the Jaguar I-Pace has changed its infotainment system for a new one, that will start to include realtime charge data of various networks. Innovation in the sector is starting to get interesting.
I agree: it’s the software more than the Supercharger network that makes Teslas so much better. iOS 14 will make it much easier in that regard it seems.
Andrew your best production yet...this should get an award.
Thanks so much Neil!
Lovely video and a great family. Absolutely loved the dynamics.
I think it's unfair to ask about a Tesla because like most of life you have to make compromises. Your Kia Niro is great because it's perfect for your day-to-day use with the headroom and storage you need. You don't go on a road trip every day. The compromise is that when you *do* go on one, you need to plan a bit - perhaps a lot! - more.
There's no doubt, though, that a Tesla makes road trips a breeze. We still check where we might stop and charge, especially in a Tesla desert like the south-west of France where we have our second home. But we've never felt anywhere close to the battery limit and that's charging consistently between 40 and 80%.
Your wife is spot on though: we're a couple with grown-up kids. We couldn't have done our regular travel down France each year with the three of them in the back of a Model 3. In fact even with an SUV we were also towing a trailer on occasions. But that was when I was doing things like taking a complete Magnet kitchen including the sink to fit in France along with camping gear, and bringing back loads of beer and wine. 😁
So you literally took the kitchen sink?! Brilliant!
Thank you for your kind comments. I do wonder if we’d fill whatever size of car we have. Mainly with our daughter’s toys, probably.
What a great family you have, love the Italian honesty, your body language was very defensive by the way! Come to the Lakes.
A defensive stance is my natural position at home! 😃 We’ll certainly make it to the Lakes one of these days.
Awww your family is so cute. And your wife shouldn't be shy before the cam. She looks great. Thank you for this honest roadtrip videos. I liked it. I'm not having a Kia soon. But it was interesting to watch it. Did you tried the app ABRP on the trip? Would know if this apps works well if anyone know it. I'm happy about requests. We are still waiting on the Hyundai Kona Electric 😬🤔🙏 thanxs for the videos. Have a good Sunday greetings from Switzerland 🇨🇭👍
Thanks Sandra! Yes, we used ABRP the whole time. It was brilliant! Hyundai are guaranteeing deliveries will only take “a few days” in the UK now so I imagine they’re making a lot now. Fingers crossed you get your lovely Kona soon!
Thank you for all three videos. They were brilliant, me and my wife have been enjoying watching them over the past few weeks!
Thanks so much, Derek!
A really excellent video Andrew! So refreshing to hear a real family discussing and directing a road trip on what did and didn't work and what will help on the next one. Really helpful. My e-Niro 2021 model arrives in a few weeks so I have been glued to your channel recently and so far.....mildly encouraging! This vid is great for us as we plan to travel road trips as a family and I'll be using it for fairly regular long journeys for work 😰😰😰
Thanks very much, Dan! Enjoy your e-Niro!
A couple of take-aways for me from your experience - first would be to try to avoid a roof box and to carefully consider if a slower cruising speed could actually take no more time when allowing for charge stops. I have driven to Italy several times but I am not sure if I would have attempted it in an EV - the one situation where I would currently prefer internal combustion. I have done several long runs in the last week and I regularly saw a range of ~750 miles for my smaller diesel.
Totally agree about the toll booths! When you are driving alone in a UK car, you have to undo your seatbelt, get out of the car, get your credit card out and pay! That wouldn't be too much of a problem if your car (Jaguar I-Pace) turned the car off as soon as you open the drivers door! This is ridiculous and Jaguar can't or won't understand that this IS A PROBLEM! After a short time the lights go out and your car has NO lights and is in danger of a truck or car hitting you if the street lighting is off!
Oh what commonsense your wife has, except the I-Pace isn't big! Tesla Model X is enormous and so wide! Publicity photos make the car look like they want to see|!
Your daughter has a pretty balanced view on life as well, she certainly knows the lingo!
Thanks for the great video, and lots of fun, too, Andrew and family. Your wife is so like my late aunt, who came from near Milano. She has an uncannily similar voice and way of speaking.
Serious point now: It beats me how there were only 2 adults, one child and a dog in a car that size, you were not self-catering, and yet you needed a full roof box? I drove a small hatchback; the Metro, and then a Rover 111, on numerous occasions, years ago, with, on a few occasions, four adults in it, plus luggage, and food, for a 15- day self-catering holiday, and we still had room for gifts, etc, to take back home with us. True story. But your experience raises a serious question: Is the e-Niro really that limited for cargo space?
Thank you! The e-Niro has loads of space but we took far too many of Aurelia’s toys and the roof box was needed to bring back loads of things from Rome. I’m sure we could manage without the roof box if we did it again!
@@MrEV Thanks for the reply, Andrew. I finished watching the video, and agree that those two unavoidable things were the real issue.
Long distance travel in any vehicle is very much a matter of mindset. Eliminate unnecessary items first. Then make best use of space available, so that you can still travel in comfort. Mrs. RWB always manages to use luggage space very inefficiently, so I load the car. It's also wise to remove quietly the items which women take, and which are always available at the destination.
You'll enjoy Snowdonia, but avoid it until late August through to the first week of October, when the weather can be much better than earlier in the Summer. It's the -rain- 'liquid Silver' which keeps Wales green!
Your family are beautiful and very funny! A long road trip is always going to be a bit more taxing with the whole family, it was good to hear that the length of charging stops was not an issue since you needed to have a break anyway. This is what I find driving an EV, I quite enjoy the enforced breaks. Your videos may have looked like you were stopping to charge very often, when in fact in-between each video clip was several hours of driving! I'm very impressed with the maps that you make for your videos. What software do you use to make these?
Snowdonia road trip will be a doddle! Your most welcome to come and visit. I know some nice places you could stay in the mountains with destination EV charging 😀
Nice beer 🍻 #PurpleMoose 😍
Thanks Glyn! I agree. I may have said before, but I think when charging stops are the same length as a petrol refill it’ll be quite a shame! I didn’t have any special software to make the maps actually. I just took a high-res screenshot of Europe from Apple Maps, then added all the stops and route lines in Apple Motion (along with the camera movements).
It wasn’t a quick process, hence the time it took to get it edited and published! I’m going to try and write some software to do it all for me next time I think. It’d probably be quicker!
That was a little touch just for you!
That’d all be amazing. I’ll let you know. Much depends on the Covid situation of course!
Don't think you're winning the Tesla battle Andrew 😂
As an I-Pace owner myself, I really wouldn't change it, the interior is as big as my last E-Class and has a bigger boot. I'm getting a solid 240-250 miles atm with it. Jaguar are working on the J-Pace which will Discovery / F-Pace size, so should be more inline with Model X. The build quality of your Kia is far better than anything Tesla are churning out atm.
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Had it not been for Tesla there would be no I-pace and Tesla’s electronic are light years ahead of everyone else. I agree though build quality is a bit lacking however the build of the model Y is up with most manufacturers..
@@wobby1516 Had it been for GM and the EV1 you mean?
That’s great to hear! I still think the I-Pace is the best looking EV. Damn shame Flaviana doesn’t agree!
Hilarious! I had to play this to my wife. She has exactly the same opinion as your wife! And we only drove 650 km in one go in bmw i3s.
And she also likes big cars (we just bought 2018 VW Touareg) and she would like to order Cybertruck. :-)))
She wants a Cybertruck as well?! I thought my wife was relatively unique in that regard! 😃
I think that your road trip was 12 months ago, I think that you'd have a different experience now. Many more chargers in place.
Yes and no. The Corri-door network is 97% offline in France so that may make things more difficult. On the other hand, there are more IONITY chargers.
I had planned to do it myself this year (with the girls going by train) but then Covid happened...
I think Flaviana is right that taking the train is actually a less stressful and more obvious way for a family to travel to Italy. It's also the lowest carbon with European railways generally being electric.
I just wish it was cheaper. Travelling Europe by train is a joy.
Excellent video. Good to have some real balance from the EV fan side (I'm similar lol) . Having your wife and daughter participate was genius Very informative, but also utterly hilarious.
nice video well done for getting your family to agree to do it
Thanks Tom!
Road trips of the kind you did are not for kids, they are not interested in places, only the destination so they can get out and play with other kids. Trust me I know having done many both in a car and our motorhome.. leave the long trip by car until your little one’s grown up as it’s not fair on them stuck in a car for days.
+Colin Munro: "Are we there yet ? ? ?" :-).
Brilliant Video its great to here comments from your wife and daughter as you may know I have the E Nero 4 only just done over 1500 miles but I think you would like it even more.
Planning to look at the model Y in a couple of years but still think E Nero hard to beat for price best wishes to both better planning may of made your trip less stressful !!
Thanks Jim! I agree - I just can’t see anything matching the e-Niro any time soon.
Like climbing Mount Everest looking back 😂 Gotta love Flaviana and Aurelia 💕
Your wife and daughter are a brilliant double act to your straight man delivery.😁 What a refreshingly honest review of your road trip and EV experience. Maybe try it again "borrowing" a Model X and see if it lives up to your expectations.
I’m actually a little worried it won’t. I hired a Model S once and, although very impressive (and fast!), it left me a little cold for some reason. Perhaps because it’s so wide I was terrified of scratching the alloys!
Hello mr.EV(and family), I loved your videos... I am an italian owner of a model3 sr+ and i've just done my first trip to holidays, a 5 hours journey from Milano to Follonica with a night at Firenze. I disagree with your wife about the space inside of the car: we are a family with 2 kids (8 and 4 yo) and we packed everything in the trunk (even 2 boxes of grocery and food) plus my trolley in the frunk.
I can confirm no range anxiety at all with the tesla software.
I know you are aware of Maingau, i've tested at an Ionity charging station in Italy and it works and it's cheap: 0,39€/kWh. It's even less than Enel-X AC charging (which works also with the Maingau app, but not with it's rfid card).
Great video. Also think it`s a great EV. Your wife said same as mine, Tesla 3 is ugly and a toy car..... (I have a E-Niro and an I-Pace). She loves the I-Pace and the E-Niro.... there is only one anoying thing....it should be 4 wheel drive. With all that torq you really need better grip/traction. I-Pace does that perfectly. Thank you for great videos!
That’s so true. I’m hoping Kia announce an 4WD e-Niro for the 2022 model year.
What a great couple of cars you have! The I-Pace is an absolute stunner.
We did a motorbike trip to Italy in 2017 and we did agree it was hard work and would have been easier in a car, but it did provide a lot of memories. PS - I had every hotel booked with a daily itinerary however I think it was even more stressful than winging it day by day, but we were on a time budget. Can’t wait to retire and not have to worry about time. Looking forward to (affordable) electric motor homes!!
That’s interesting. I suppose the moral of the story is it’s hard work whether organised well or not!
As for retiring and getting an electric motor home - that’s the dream! I can’t wait for some Tesla Semi conversions.
I would be really interested in a video about driving in England, having to rely only on public chargers at all times, with a roofbox weighing 75kg total weight on the car at all times. The roofbox would normally hold a winch and storage for a wheelchair. I'm very curious as to what that would do to the range when travelling at british speed limits.
Nice video! Seems like an escape to post a road trip during lockdown!
I would disagree on leasing... If you can purchase you benifit from price inflation, and no mileage limits. Also lease seemed very expensive at the time 800£ pm 3year
Certainly if someone can afford to buy an EV outright then that makes a lot of sense as EVs depreciate far less. Had we bought the e-Niro, I think we’d be able to sell next year and not lose anything.
Our e-Niro is leased through the business - about £500/month for two years with no deposit - so it’s a very cost effective way of getting it.
@@MrEV I paid 33.5k and new eNiro costs I think 35-36k now. I am sure i will be able to sell after 3years with low or little loss. Its crazy. Also eNiro/Kona are about 2-3 years ahead of the game for good value EVs.
Love this video. I can very much relate to this. Good, honest feedback
I drive a Tesla Mode3. My choice was very much dictated by the Tesla 'Superchargers Network' . It is not true that there are more petrol stations than public chargers. The opposite is true! The problem is that you have to join or subscribe to the many different suppliers. Then they use different form of payment. That is why a decided to buy a Tesla. You just plug-in and charge. The payment is them made directly from your credit card.
But you had a nice adventure. Well done.
Yes, the Supercharger network is simply outstanding. Well done with your Model 3. Fantastic car! (Well, I think so anyway!)
Yes, I thought this was a great video. Your wife and daughter interacting was so pleasant to see. And you never what's going to come out of a mouth from a child. So I thought she did perfect on camera. And tell your wife she has nothing to worry about oh, she did wonderfully. I wanted to see your comments about the model 3. I feel the same way that your wife feels, it's just not big enough. I didn't realize how small it was until I test drove it. Too short, not a hatchback, fun if you're single or a couple. And for me, the only real competition to it is the Kia Niro EV. The kia is so difficult to get in the USA. They're here, but not many of them. So the dealers are very tight with money and offer no discounts.
But this was a fun video with the family. First time I've seen your channel and I subscribed already. Thanks for the help, the comments and advice. Hopefully I'll get an e Niro Before Christmas.
Thanks for your kind comments! Kia are finally improving availability in Europe; I hope they do the same in America as it’s such a great car and, as you say, the only real competition to the Model 3.
A little more planning helps. Hotels, destination chargers, rest stops, trip planning software, a better route planner software has many options to increase accuracy..
Only way a long trip on an ev would work is by calling the hotels and getting to know if there would be a destination chargers available reserved for you...
Nonsense. It is perfectly possible to do it stress-free in the right EV with a supporting charging infrastructure. We did just that down France and into Spain. The biggest pain would have been motorway tolls but now we have a Télépéage dongle and just drive through the toll stations without stopping.
@@reeshar1234 destination chargers would be more comfortable .. as you can charge the car to 100% while you sleep . By destination chargers I mean the slow charging kind provided by the hotels you stay in....
@@parthasarathyvenkatadri Oh I agree. And we do use them when they're available. But on a long journey you also need to use fast chargers.
250kW chargers and cars such as the Model 3 make all the difference. With enough chargers - and there *are* just enough Tesla chargers to do this - you charge in the optimal range of 40-80% which only takes about 15-20 minutes, barely enough time to stretch your legs and use toilet facilities.
An hilarious compelling watch, very entertaining.....subscribed
Very well done Mister EV. Enjoyed watching this Video. I‘m sure many EV husbands and EV fathers are in the same situation. I‘m sure things are getting much better concerning chargers and range in a few months.
Andrew, as many others also said: Model 3 has LOTS of space! The frunk is good for a cabin trolley, the niche in the boot is good for another one. And then the boot is about the size of Audi e-Tron's (loaded to the window level). Do you have an opportunity to loan a Model 3 for a week or two? Maybe trade e-Niro with someone for a few days? It could have an interesting learning effect on your family - and a good story for your channel too! Real life comparisons are so seldom...
Loaning a Model 3? Funny you should mention that. Stay tuned! 😃
"Looks like an Opel Corsa". Almost wet myself :-D
A great series of videos, I’ve now booked my road trip to Spain in my Model 3.
Thanks! That’ll be amazing!
So much joy ... LOL I love the video. ;)
Great travelogue and very authentic.
I am curious if it will be a T3 after all, but in the E-Niro 2020 with the 3-phase charger this might have been a bit more relaxed.
Please keep making great videos. Thx!
The e-tron and ipace are really inefficient - going half the distance per kWh compared with other cars, they have massive batteries, avoid - real problems with build. We looked at the e-nero and drove it, and tesla 3 - and the tesla has twice the luggage space. You wife wants a SUV so I should wait for the model Y as it is wider and higher than the 3. I have the tesla 3, love the car, seats much more comfy than the nero and kia, and most important, my wife loves it too. Good luck.
I loved it.. very honest.. and had to laugh a lot, your wife is funny..thank you for sharing
Great to hear! Thanks, Peter!
Kudos to "the director" knowing exactly when to cut.
Loved the video. Best EV one I’ve seen Thank you to all the family
Just one question...... where was babe ?
That’s lovely to hear, Su - thank you! Baby was feeling camera shy but she’ll be in the next one hopefully!
Andrew Till / Mr. EV Great to hear..... looking forward to it !
Range Rover!!! 😂
On a serious note, I guess the VW ID4 will be a good bet for you in the future! Good luck in your show and keep the family on it.
If Aurelia has the casting vote over your staycation road trip, enjoy Snowdonia. We’re going to Criccieth for two weeks, with so many adventures to enjoy, from beaches to mountains, castles and more around Snowdonia. You’ll still be in trouble for real (roof box motorway ragging your e-Nero) range not matching mixed cycle quoted range, but I’m looking forward to seeing how you get on practising your Cymraeg.
That sounds amazing! I struggle enough with Italian, let alone Cymraeg!
And beautiful wife (and daughter) indeed. You guys seem to know each other so well 😉
Heyup Andrew, can I just say that your wife and daughter are bloody brilliant. Sooooo honest and I love that. You’ve got your work cut out with those two ha ha ha
Thanks David! They certainly keep me on my toes. 😃
I have thoroughly enjoyed this series of videos with you and your wonderful family. A road trip around the UK should be no less exciting, I can’t wait for this years journey! In time, the Tesla Model Y may provide the space of the Kia and the convenience of Tesla software?
It looks like you wanted convince your wife that next car it will be Tesla 😆
But anyway, great videos, thank you for sharing your family experience.
I’m actually very happy with the e-Niro. I was just playing devil’s advocate, really!
Part of the issue with having the 20% battery charge threshold is that if you charge to 80% max in order to ensure a quick speed of charging then you are effectively only using 60% of the battery.
Very true. I was going down to 10% in my recent Land's End to John O'Groats adventure which was much more sensible.
@@MrEV I’ve just watched that one. You seemed a lot more at ease with the longer drive and charging associated in that road trip. Please keep up the good work you are enjoyable to watch and provide good insight to being an EV owner.
I'm so looking forward to Mrs EV driving the model 3.….
Funny video 😁 I loved how you kept trying to convince your wife about Tesla and it all backfired even with the X which you knew she was loving 😂
Anyways, it's refreshing to see your honest opinions (including the girls) and not being biased at all.
Charging should be as easy as reaching a watt station plugging in and worry about the payment later (or earlier with prepaid credit). But for now you have to think of where to go next, how many and what chargers are there, if there are any available or even functional. This is really a big problem for now on long inter-state trips. But I think on a UK tour you'll be just fine, especially with a bit of planning ahead and the experience 😊
You've gained a new subscriber with this "not very good video". Cheers!
Thanks very much! Yes, the UK is pretty good for charging. We’ll see how it goes on the next trip though!
That was brilliant!
Think I’ll show this family video to my Italian partner. She wouldn’t last on the first two videos (too techi for her) but on this I have a chance of holding her attention. Plus it will help her get some perspective before deciding if we want to do a family drive to her parents in Italy 🇮🇹 from Scotland 🏴, which is not in England 🏴😉.
Pleased to report that she watch the full video and asked questions for the next 20 minutes. Beyond my wildest expectations. Thanks 🙏
I think Model 3 has about the same, if not more space than Kia E-Niro. It isn't as tall as E-Niro tho. Model X would also not be as much fun in Italy - with super-narrow roads. But I suppose, in Italy - bigger cars have priority - so no wonder Italian person wants the bigger car ;-)
It has less space than the Niro for storage according to the Bjorn Nyland’s banana box test.
Now I want to take my Model 3 to Italy. :)
What a lovely family you have and thanks for the great content. We are heading over too France then Switzerland in August for 2 and half weeks in our Tesla Model 3 with my wife and 5 year old daughter. Really looking forward to it. Have done this many times before our daughter was born in 2 seater sports cars with 6 cylinder engines but very limited space. We had a 3 series BMW before the Model 3 and find the TM3 to have much more storage and cabin space for the 3 of us than the bmw ever did?
What a great trip you’ll have! I think it’s just the lack of a hatch that gave Flaviana the impression of a smaller boot.
We’ll see one in the flesh very soon though so we can look properly... I can’t wait!