Thanks for the fun video including the bombshell 😎 Free charging is always nice (and 25kWh is still 2-3 times quicker than the usual 7-11kWh destination chargers)
it would also have cost you a lot more in petrol/diesel in an ICE car lol. I've been driving an EV for 6 years and the infrastructure is 100% better than it was back then. I also used to deliver them for work so drove them all over the country and rarely had an issue with charging. Also the "not charging to 100% ever" is a fallacy. Dave from "Dave takes it on" RUclips channel has actually answered this in his latest video and basically charging to 100% is fine, what it does is reduce the overall lifetime of your battery by a very minimal amount. some people (including me) charge to 100% every charge at home and have never had a problem in 6 years. my car which is a 3 year old Hyundai Kona 64kWh expected range in the winter when I got it in mid January 2022, was 265 miles. My expected range yesterday (23rd Dec 2024) after a100% charge was 267 miles, so no difference! Its very nice to see a new channel that isn't bashing EV's and making them out to be the worst thing ever. My personal view after living with one for 6 years now is that they aren't for everyone so before you get one be realistic about what you need your car to do for you. But that being said, for the vast majority of people, as you have just proved they will be more than up to the job that 99% of the driving population need. Its just such a shame the mainstream media is so bias against them. I will never go back to an ICE car because and EV is just so much more refined, smoother, faster not to mention much cheaper to run, especially if like me you charge it at home on a 7p per kWh EV tariff! Keep up the excellent work, I've just subscribed and look forward to seeing what you release next. Aspie_Geek_UK (Paul) North Herts, UK
Very true, it'll be a while before people like my brother who is a driving instructor and as a side hustle tows cars and trailers up and down the country. But he's coming round to an EV for his wife. Thanks for the feedback. While I can be positive about EVs I'm lucky enough to use EV and ICE back to back and be able to give direct comparisons on facts 👍
@thatrobchalmersbloke, I also have a petrol car for comparison and rarely drive it now! I recently ordered a new Skoda Enyaq EV as I need something a little bigger than the Kona. I collect it from the dealership mid January. I have had several of my friends have now switched to EV after seeing my experience with them including the occasional road trip (Letchworth Garden City to Inverness, Letchworth Garden city to Eden Project to name just 2). But I maintain that although 90% of drivers would be perfectly fine with an EV, there are still that minority whose needs are more than EV's can currently provide for such as people that regularly tow heavy trailers (amateur race car teams, caravaners, Builders with trucks etc). And also people that drive several hundred miles daily as I used to as a courier (400 - 500 miles a day 6, sometimes 7 days a week). But they will get there. Battery tech is advancing at an astonishing rate and I would be very surprised if in the next 10 years we don't see EV's with 0-90% charge rates of 10 mins and 1000 mile range.
I've taken an EV across Europe many times, it's so easy now that it's not so much fun lol. Already planning the next trip. My charging stops are usually 15 mins with 800v
depends on what EV and each persons needs really. for me i only do 160 miles a week to work and back and some driving to the shops etc so my honda E is fine. its 16 miles to work and because of regen breaking most times it only takes 8 to 12 miles off the range. i only charge at home via 3 pin too
Awesome! The ID suckles off a hone charger most of the time and I only need to charge once every 3 days (~70 miles a day) in winter while keeping a Huuuuuuuge buffer
I am in New Zealand, I have a Leaf, which does 120km between chargers on a good day, max range about 150km. I managed to drive 1000km from home on a two week road trip. Barely ever had to wait for a charger. They seem to be replacing the single chargers with doubles. But most places they are putting in 4 or 6 in each location now. They have CCS and CHAdeMO. We pay road tax in EVs the same as diesel, so now the per km tax generally costs more than charging. DC charging is something like 65 -85 cents per kWh ~35 pence. AC charging in some places can be 30c 13p I guess. Road tax $76 per 1000km, about 34 pounds.
@@thatrobchalmersbloke A truck driver in California says he sees at least 1 burnt out EV on the highway a week and he says you can tell because it's just a pile of molten slag where as a normal ICE car is just a burnt out shell
Fair does, but in the last year I've seen 8 fires on the M6 alone, none of them EVs. And studies show your more the 12x more likely to see a ICE car fire than an EV.
Got a model y and love it. Went for the Tesla for the network. I do around 20k a year and have had no issues. Longest charge out and about on a long trip has been 10 minutes. Enough time to use the toilet.
Been very impressed with the open superchargers near me, although for non teslas the pricing is a bit of a lucky dip whether I hit the off peak price 😀
@ the key with EVs is home charging. For around 95% of who can home charge they will not need to use public chargers. I do on average around 120 miles a day and have only supercharged 3 times in 8 months.
There used to be one giant charging network in NZ. But now the petrol companies have their own. An some regional power companies have their own networks in some areas. So to take a road trip I can use the big network, a regional network and a petrol company network. I think I have 3 running network accounts. The infrastructure here seems to be keeping up with demand. EV sales as a percentage of new cars sold decreased from about 20% to 10% roughly over the last year.
Our %age is increasing slowly, I think they will be a plateau like there was when diesel took hold . As for networks, the oul companies have bought other but they are being shunned by customers.... mainly for their eye watering cost per kW!
Why the mention of not charging to 100%? If you're on a road trip of any sort that is the time to charge to 100%. Different battery chemistries have different recommendations (*not* limits!) for day-to-day usage, but when you're on a road trip that's the time to use that battery capacity.
The charge curve on the ID4 tapers off after 80% and if I had been able to charge on the ferries I'd have been more time limited. It may take 25-30 mins to do 20-80% charge, but it takes a similar amount of time to do the last 20%. If I'm trying to get get some where that needs multiple charges, I much rather stop charging at 80(even 70!) And get on to the next charger. Freeing up that charger for someone else
Thanks for the fun video including the bombshell 😎 Free charging is always nice (and 25kWh is still 2-3 times quicker than the usual 7-11kWh destination chargers)
It was the best surprise to have, but deep down I did want to try charging on the continent..... maybe thats for a future video!
it would also have cost you a lot more in petrol/diesel in an ICE car lol.
I've been driving an EV for 6 years and the infrastructure is 100% better than it was back then. I also used to deliver them for work so drove them all over the country and rarely had an issue with charging.
Also the "not charging to 100% ever" is a fallacy. Dave from "Dave takes it on" RUclips channel has actually answered this in his latest video and basically charging to 100% is fine, what it does is reduce the overall lifetime of your battery by a very minimal amount. some people (including me) charge to 100% every charge at home and have never had a problem in 6 years. my car which is a 3 year old Hyundai Kona 64kWh expected range in the winter when I got it in mid January 2022, was 265 miles. My expected range yesterday (23rd Dec 2024) after a100% charge was 267 miles, so no difference!
Its very nice to see a new channel that isn't bashing EV's and making them out to be the worst thing ever. My personal view after living with one for 6 years now is that they aren't for everyone so before you get one be realistic about what you need your car to do for you. But that being said, for the vast majority of people, as you have just proved they will be more than up to the job that 99% of the driving population need. Its just such a shame the mainstream media is so bias against them.
I will never go back to an ICE car because and EV is just so much more refined, smoother, faster not to mention much cheaper to run, especially if like me you charge it at home on a 7p per kWh EV tariff!
Keep up the excellent work, I've just subscribed and look forward to seeing what you release next.
Aspie_Geek_UK (Paul) North Herts, UK
Very true, it'll be a while before people like my brother who is a driving instructor and as a side hustle tows cars and trailers up and down the country. But he's coming round to an EV for his wife.
Thanks for the feedback. While I can be positive about EVs I'm lucky enough to use EV and ICE back to back and be able to give direct comparisons on facts 👍
@thatrobchalmersbloke, I also have a petrol car for comparison and rarely drive it now! I recently ordered a new Skoda Enyaq EV as I need something a little bigger than the Kona. I collect it from the dealership mid January. I have had several of my friends have now switched to EV after seeing my experience with them including the occasional road trip (Letchworth Garden City to Inverness, Letchworth Garden city to Eden Project to name just 2).
But I maintain that although 90% of drivers would be perfectly fine with an EV, there are still that minority whose needs are more than EV's can currently provide for such as people that regularly tow heavy trailers (amateur race car teams, caravaners, Builders with trucks etc). And also people that drive several hundred miles daily as I used to as a courier (400 - 500 miles a day 6, sometimes 7 days a week). But they will get there.
Battery tech is advancing at an astonishing rate and I would be very surprised if in the next 10 years we don't see EV's with 0-90% charge rates of 10 mins and 1000 mile range.
I've taken an EV across Europe many times, it's so easy now that it's not so much fun lol. Already planning the next trip. My charging stops are usually 15 mins with 800v
Haha yup me too, planning a tonne of weekend trips now I've found out about the charging on the boat!
depends on what EV and each persons needs really. for me i only do 160 miles a week to work and back and some driving to the shops etc so my honda E is fine. its 16 miles to work and because of regen breaking most times it only takes 8 to 12 miles off the range. i only charge at home via 3 pin too
Awesome! The ID suckles off a hone charger most of the time and I only need to charge once every 3 days (~70 miles a day) in winter while keeping a Huuuuuuuge buffer
I am in New Zealand, I have a Leaf, which does 120km between chargers on a good day, max range about 150km. I managed to drive 1000km from home on a two week road trip. Barely ever had to wait for a charger. They seem to be replacing the single chargers with doubles. But most places they are putting in 4 or 6 in each location now.
They have CCS and CHAdeMO. We pay road tax in EVs the same as diesel, so now the per km tax generally costs more than charging. DC charging is something like 65 -85 cents per kWh ~35 pence. AC charging in some places can be 30c 13p I guess. Road tax $76 per 1000km, about 34 pounds.
How do they work the pay per km system? Is it camera based?
@@thatrobchalmersbloke How s*** are they from my research very
What did you find was shit? And when
@@thatrobchalmersbloke A truck driver in California says he sees at least 1 burnt out EV on the highway a week and he says you can tell because it's just a pile of molten slag where as a normal ICE car is just a burnt out shell
Fair does, but in the last year I've seen 8 fires on the M6 alone, none of them EVs. And studies show your more the 12x more likely to see a ICE car fire than an EV.
Got a model y and love it. Went for the Tesla for the network. I do around 20k a year and have had no issues. Longest charge out and about on a long trip has been 10 minutes. Enough time to use the toilet.
Been very impressed with the open superchargers near me, although for non teslas the pricing is a bit of a lucky dip whether I hit the off peak price 😀
@ the key with EVs is home charging. For around 95% of who can home charge they will not need to use public chargers. I do on average around 120 miles a day and have only supercharged 3 times in 8 months.
There used to be one giant charging network in NZ. But now the petrol companies have their own. An some regional power companies have their own networks in some areas. So to take a road trip I can use the big network, a regional network and a petrol company network. I think I have 3 running network accounts. The infrastructure here seems to be keeping up with demand. EV sales as a percentage of new cars sold decreased from about 20% to 10% roughly over the last year.
Our %age is increasing slowly, I think they will be a plateau like there was when diesel took hold .
As for networks, the oul companies have bought other but they are being shunned by customers.... mainly for their eye watering cost per kW!
Why the mention of not charging to 100%? If you're on a road trip of any sort that is the time to charge to 100%. Different battery chemistries have different recommendations (*not* limits!) for day-to-day usage, but when you're on a road trip that's the time to use that battery capacity.
The charge curve on the ID4 tapers off after 80% and if I had been able to charge on the ferries I'd have been more time limited. It may take 25-30 mins to do 20-80% charge, but it takes a similar amount of time to do the last 20%. If I'm trying to get get some where that needs multiple charges, I much rather stop charging at 80(even 70!) And get on to the next charger. Freeing up that charger for someone else
Can’t wait to get my new Ev Renault, scenic Alpine esprit in January in Crewe .,
Yes and drive around little Britain's m25 as well
Yes and drive it around little Britain s M25 expressway
I've only driven the Megane, but do like the look of the scenic!