Canterbury to Land’s End in a Kia e-Niro! The Mr. EV UK charity challenge part 1
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- Опубликовано: 24 июл 2024
- People always say the charging infrastructure in the UK isn’t good enough and you can only drive long distances in a Tesla, so I wanted to prove them wrong - and have a bit of an adventure!
The plan was to drive about 2,000 miles around the UK in my Kia e-Niro in three days. Starting in Canterbury, driving to Land’s End in Cornwall (as far west as you can go), then on to John O’Groats (as far north you can go on land) and then back to Canterbury for my 40th birthday.
So how did it go? Was charging difficult? Did I survive it mentally? And - most importantly - what music did I listen to?!
(Apologies in advance for my singing.)
I also wanted to raise some money for three great charities: British Lung Foundation; Great Ormond Street Hospital and The Stroke Association (who offered such great support when I had my recent mini-stroke).
While I was away, Flaviana needed a car to drive so EVision EV Hire supported the challenge by giving us a great discount on a BMW i3 hire. Thank you so much to them!
Donate to the challenge: www.justgiving.com/crowdfundi...
Skip my singing!
00:00 - Say goodbye to the family (in the i3)
00:10 - The equipment
01:52 - Leaving Canterbury
04:21 - Playlist - Kent: Wang Chung
05:37 - Playlist - Kent: Nitin Sawhney
06:11 - The strategy
07:16 - Getting steamy
08:34 - Playlist - Surrey: Peter Gabriel
10:21 - Playlist - Surrey: Pink Floyd
10:57 - Tesla spotting
11:48 - Playlist - Hampshire: Howard Jones
12:43 - Slight detour
12:57 - Welcome to a road driving through the New Forest
13:28 - Now in Dorset, Taycan spotting
14:11 - Shouldn't golfers have EVs?
15:34 - Destination: Wimborne, Dorset
17:16 - Charger 1: Instavolt, Starbucks Corfe Mullen
22:31 - Off on my way to Devon
23:43 - The wonderful Smart Cruise Control
26:29 - Playlist - Dorset/Devon: Coldplay
29:07 - Charger 2: IONITY Cullompton, Devon
33:23 - On my way to Cornwall
34:38 - Playlist - Devon: Seth Lakeman
34:58 - The e-Niro is an efficient car!
35:36 - Playlist - Devon: Muse
36:04 - We're in Cornwall!
36:58 - Health update
37:11 - Playlist - Cornwall: Fleetwood Mac
38:49 - Charger 3: Shell Carland Cross, Cornwall
42:48 - And now on to Land's End
43:36 - Playlist - Cornwall: Fisherman's Friends
43:56 - Destination: Land's End
44:44 - Stats how it's done
44:52 - Preview of part 2
Audio quality is pretty awful in the car by the way, apologies!
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The charity page is still open so if you have some spare change and haven’t already donated, please do. THANK YOU! www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/misterev-uk-tour
"it's the middle one!" What a cliff-hanger for part two 😂 This should go well!
The left pedal feels very stiff!
Always fun to watch your videos. You’re always so real which is refreshing and it gives a real insight into EV ownership. Thanks so much 👍
Lovely of you to say. Thank you, Samuel!
Loved the music choices, look forward to part 2 👍
Thanks Jonathan! ChargePlaceScotland gets some love in the next vid of course.
Another great video Andrew, I just received my 2020 E-Nero 4 and am really impressed.
Not quite sure how the heat pump is helping me at the moment as my range drops between 5 and 10 whenever I put on the heater. I have a lot to learn about this car. Your videos really help a lot of my learning. Keep up the good work.
Thanks for your positive demonstration that KIA EV’s can do long distances without a concern of “range anxiety”. It was good to see that you could charge where you had planned. A KIA Soul owner
Thanks, Richard. What great cars we have!
Well done great video can’t wait for next part. Yer you can do long Journeys is in an EV no problem. We did 1050 miles in Zoe in 4 days upto Scotland and tour around Scotland and was easy with two young kids . Then went tour of south coast 2-3 weeks later did 950 miles in 4 days , easy and so enjoyable to drive evs . Been all over uk in last 4 months and now done 7300 miles in under 5 months. In next week got about 900 miles to do around Essex and Kent . Can’t get over how cheap evs are to run its cost us less than £100 so far including rapid charging !
Thanks so much, Nickie!
Thanks for vid. Cleaning the inside of the windows will help the misting up. Good to see your having fun.
Great video Andy, very entertaining, good to see the e-Niro performing well. By coincidence I was at Lands End the week before you and I went to Lulworth Cove the week after and also used the Corfe Mullen Instavolt charger, small world 😀
Thank you! Lovely parts of the world. And that Corfe Mullen Instavolt is so well positioned isn’t it?
You could rename Autopilot to 'Look Out Rodney, You Plonker!', but some drivers would still abuse it...possibly the same ones who texted and stared at their phones in their previous ICE vehicles. The basic Autopilot that comes with the car, works in roughly the same way as the Niro, and you have to upgrade to FSD for lane change on indication.
There's maybe an opening at Radio 6, for your innovative music format, naming and describing the song/artist, and occasionally interjecting the silence with, "hang on, listen to this bass coming up...Roger Waters, genius!" Good video.
If my day job fails, I’ll write to the BBC and suggest that!
@@MrEV ;-)
Looking forward to next one
This is good. I knew I was making a good choice in my primary option of our purchasing Kia e-Niro. Would love to know how much miles you start each charge point with, and how much remained when you reach your charging destination. Love the video. Looking forward in Part 2. See not everyone wants a Tesla and that's ok. I love the Niro EV.
Really enjoyed the video Andrew (even my partner Maggie was hooked all the way through) and I'm sure it's pushing her closer to getting an e-Niro too. Aurelia didn't seem too fussed about her Daddy scooting off for a couple of days (maybe she was already enjoying the "new car")!
Thanks Andrew! She wasn’t as upbeat as normal actually; I think she was a bit sad. She’d never admit it though!
(She did love the i3 though!)
Great video!! Wish could have caught up with you on way past, sadly work commitments could get out of. Like the music choices. 👍
Thanks so much! Shame we couldn’t catch up at Cobham. Next time!
Hi Andrew the way you describe your ride was awesome & your songs selection also great keep going,
even I own mg zs ev @ India I love your caption even I got same messages from people with out infra ...........
(People always say the charging infrastructure in the UK isn’t good enough and you can only drive long distances in a Tesla, so I wanted to prove them wrong - and have a bit of an adventure!)
Andrew, that was a really good first part. I have a 2017 Soul EV, so do not use CCS so it’s been nice to see you not having issues with CCS after all the horror stories heard about CCS on the electric highway.
Thanks, Chris! Yes, CCS seems much more reliable than it used to be: partly due to newer chargers being used now. Older ChargeYourCar and Electric Highway ones are still a little glitchy on CCS where I never had a problem with my Chademo Leaf.
That Instavolt charger has a nice display showing even the accumulated price. I wish we had something comparable in Germany.
Instavolt is the way to go. Roll-up, contactless, job done. Ionity are getting there but seem expensive (although free is my sort of price). Looking forward to part 2.
Agree! Part 2 coming next week.
Great trip, I loved to see the British countryside. The shell charger is the same kind of charger we have in Portugal so it looked very familiar 🤣
Do you find they’re reliable?
@@MrEV I have only had the ID.3 for 4 weeks, but I have used this type of charger 8 times at 4 different locations. The handshake is quick and they work perfectly every time.
I did notice in this trip that your e-Niro seems to charge slower than my ID.3, I get 50 kw up to 82% very consistently. My ID.3 cannot do the range of e-Niro however :-)
Nicely done.
Thank you!
Hi I was at collumpton the day before you. I was amused to see my comment on zap map was displayed in your video. Your car is so much more efficient than mine. I rarely get anything above 3 miles per kwh. Ionity has been a big disappointment at Collumpton and is now so incredibly expensive. I have gone back to using the nearby Instavolt chargers.
I like the way you present lots of stats (though it would help if the stats stay on screen a little longer, so I can hit the pause button before they go!). I'm sure it helps people to move to EV. From a cost point of view your 3.8miles/kWh at say 30p a kWh = 8p/mile. Have you worked out your costs per mile when long distance travelling?
My next car will be an EV once I have greater confidence in the charging network. Videos like yours help me make the jump!
When might you get around to Part2... :)
I had this issue you had at Ionity also on several ABB-chargers, mostly at Fastned. The reason for this is, that the cooling system for the cable isn't working. Usually you hear a howling noise from the coolant pump. If it's not working, maximum speed is 33kW.
26.16 your in Chiddock and near golden cap onto the turn for Lyme Regis recognised as we live in Bristol.
Hi Andrew, great video and very instructive of the use of various chargers.
One question though, I'm still waiting for my 4+ and I'm curious. Is the American female voice from the car sat nav or something on your phone? If it is from the car, can it be changed to a UK voice?
Thanks John! The voice is from Waze and I just haven’t bothered to change the accent yet. I don’t remember about the car’s sat nav voice actually. I’ll check at some point soon and will let you know.
Wang Chung! Saw them live in 1980 something in Wiltshire...Trowbridge, Devizes..can’t remember exactly. Coming from Canterbury you could go back to the 60’s and 70’..The ‘Canterbury Scene’ as it was called produced great bands like Caravan and Soft Machine.
I’ve not heard of either of them actually! That’s my evening playlist sorted.
@@MrEV There were so many creative prog rock, folks and jazz bands from Canterbury around that time. I was a teen in the late 60’s and early 70s so that was my kind of music. If you have Spotify, type in ‘Canterbury Scene’ and there’s a whole lot to discover...Steve Hillage, Keven Ayers..Enjoy!
@@kiae-nirodiaries1279 Don't forget Rare Bird, to name another great band...I was in a local band in those days, I think we used to do a cover of Sympathy...also we used to frequent a club called The Beehive, where amongst others the likes of the Van der Graaf Generator played, those were the days.
Does the heater blower reduces the range more than having the heated seat and steering wheel on?
Yes - and ordinarily I’d not care but I wanted to see what sort of efficiency I’d get on such a long journey. I wasn’t cold: the heated steering wheel and seats do the job nicely.
Almost spat out my coffee when you said consumption was ‘only’ 4.1! I dream of seeing numbers like that in my 62kWh Leaf 🤣
i get easy 4.4 in the rain and over 5 in dry with my ioniq
On the Shell Recharge, did you just show how anyone could come along and just press Stop to halt your charging? Or did you show the RFID card again like the Ionity?
That’s correct - anyone in theory could stop the charge by pressing the button.
@@MrEV yikes.... one thing ionity has over shell :)
Hi just a small question for you about the e Niro and creep. Does it creep to allow the driver to move slowly backwards or forwards in tight spaces .
Yes - when you put it into drive or reverse and take the foot of the brake it starts to move slowly. I love creep although I know some people can’t stand it!
@@MrEV thank you. Just realising that the turn into the garage has become a little tighter than we first realised following changes to new road layout
Oh.... That is the name of the band who sung it. Love that song
Dance Hall Days
Do you have the sat nav set an American accent deliberately? (Great video btw)
Thanks Richard! Not deliberately, no. It’s in Waze and I just haven’t bothered to change it!
I wonder if buying wind deflectors and using them when on the motorway would be better than using the heating all the time? I have just got a 2020 Eniro last weekend and mine steams up so I think ill be getting a set for mine. Good content
@Richard Wood yh true but some times its nice to have the windows down without the noise.
I'd expect wind deflectors to have a noticeably worse impact on efficiency than the climate control system. I think Andrew was being a little over cautious with the climate control. The e-Niro has a heat pump which is a pretty efficient way to heat the cabin. In the EV menu of the centre console the car actually gives you a range with climate control turned off (the GOM range assume it'll be on) and I never generally find it to be much more. Of course, in the depths of winter that may change.
@Richard Wood My Ampera's GOM apparently used the last 3 charges' worth of efficiency to calculate range. That meant about 90-135 miles of driving. Not sure how much history the e-Niro uses though.
Just a quick question Andrew.
As an e niro owner. And going to be doing a trip to germany in the niro.
How come it took 12 hours?
To do 377miles?
Did you not include non driving time?
As this might be an important thing for new ev drivers to work out if ev is for them.
Love what you have done.
And you helped me make the e niro choice 👍
Thanks, Rob! Yes, that was the total time. I probably should have just made it the driving time!
Andrew - I have a E-Niro on order arriving in a few weeks, I noticed the indicator was very loud and irritating can you change the indicator volume?
I’ve not noticed it being loud. The audio quality wasn’t great on my video though so it may not be a true indication (pun not intended!) of how it sounds in real life. You can’t adjust the volume anyway.
You can't change the volume but the Niro's indicator it's quite "normal" really. I think Andrew's mic was being super-sensitive.
Great to see proper demonstration of charging networks that take debit cards and are reliable. Energie been renamed?! They had good reviews on Zapmap from what I could see.
Yes, Engenie have been renamed as Osprey. I’ve yet to use one of their chargers actually but I’ve heard good things and I like them as a company.
@@MrEV Just had more detailed search. Lot of tie ins with pubs and restaurants. So fair bit of scope for using when quiet.
When it says "Choose your energy" and you choose CCS - what does that mean and what are the implications of the other options?
“Choose your energy” is a bit confusing, actually. “Choose your plug” would make more sense. There are three plugs: CCS (for most EVs), Chademo (for Nissan Leaf) and Type 2 (for old Renault Zoes).
@@MrEV I was wondering that as well thanks for the answer.
Does the blower really use that much juice?
I leave mine on all the time.
That constant steaming up would drive me nuts... Lol
It would quite negatively affect the efficiency, yes. I could have kept it on but I wanted to maximise the efficiency as a crazy test!
@@MrEV Doesn't the e-niro have a ram air function? i.e fan off but air still comes in from the outside as the car moves.
12:25 bands from Hampshire what about Level 42 from Isle of Wight.
Of course! 🤦♂️
No destination chargers at the Lands End hotel? Seems a little remiss of them if that is the case
Surprising, isn’t it? There is an Electric Highway rapid in the nearby car park but it never works!
@@MrEV I was at Lands End the day after you, there was a Tesla plugged into the Ecotricity. I couldn’t tell if he was actually getting a charge though!
And that Instavolt at Corfe Mullen was my first ever rapid charge, same pump as well! By the way, your videos had a big influence on my decision to buy the E.Niro, you should be on commission!
Generally the E-Niro and others will reduce charging speed around 50% and temp of battery can affect it - Possibly if your charge had been down to 10% or 15% and the Ionity had been pushing out at 150Kw you may of got a higher rate. :)
Battery temperature certainly shouldn’t have been a problem with the hours of driving before I reached it, but yes, perhaps a lower charge would have helped.
In theory I should have been getting about 70kW at 50% with it dropping to about 58kW at 55% and so on. That’s according to Fastned’s charging graph anyway! support.fastned.nl/hc/en-gb/articles/360007699174-Charging-with-a-Kia-e-Niro
@@MrEV Yeah I like the tests that
Bjørn Nyland does ruclips.net/user/bjornnyland - yeah he gives similar figures - I guess that charger was not pushing out the highest possible KW - especially as it was free... :)
A fun video, but where's the link to the Spotify playlist????
I was using Apple Music but I will make a Spotify playlist when I do the final part!
@@MrEV thank you!
I think the way you tell the difference between a Model S and Model 3 from the rear by the chrome strip across the rear 🤷♂️
What does Instavolt charge per kWh delivered?
Great point! I should have written that on the screen. 35p per kWh.
@@MrEV on the basis you consumed 99kw hours of energy (377/3.8), the journey cost £35 compared to £45 in an ICE vehicle (my van does between 8 and 11 miles per litre depending on weight). We drove to Padstow and back over a four day break and did so on less than a tank of diesel, in fact we used 45 litres over 426 miles at a cost of just less than 13pence a mile. If I’ve done my sums right, the energy only cost you 9 pence per mile (£35/377). The only real difference is the number of stops you had to plan and the time you had to wait, over and above time we’ll spent in the rest room or just relaxing. I’ve also noticed that a cold battery won’t charge as fast as indicated and that the real ‘useable’ energy bandwidth lies between 15% and 80%, especially if you want to avoid waiting beyond 80% when the chargers slow down. This is what I’ve learned, not experienced, which is why videos like yours (and others) are doing such a great job for us wouldbe EV drivers.
The most telling part for me was when you went to the golf club car park and did not see any other EVs...
Very surprising I thought. I’m a bugger for stereotypes but I’d really have expected golfers to be perfect candidates for EVs.
I went to Farnborough b@q today. There was a Tesla in row behind me and a MG EV in front. There's quite a few evs around here now.
I had a new Polestar 2 delivered two weeks ago and I have to say I'm incredibly jealous of your efficiency. Polestar is horrendous but fortunately not a problem for me because of my mileage.
I mostly do short trips so regularly starting from cold and I'm currently running at about 2kWh/mile. Might have to try a longer trip to see how it compares to your e-Niro but I'm pretty confident it'll be nowhere near as good.
By the way, having to use your contactless card to disconnect makes sense. Without that anybody could just walk and disconnect you which would be very annoying when you get back to your flat car after chilling for half an hour with a coffee.
Great video
2kWh/mile?! Ouch.
Still, the Polestar 2 is arguably the best looking EV available so I’d forgive it!
As for disconnecting using the contactless card, that ‘stop’ button should have worked actually. Instavolt are looking into it apparently. The Shell Recharge charger I used had a stop button too. I wonder if it’s much of a problem with people randomly stopping charges?!
2 kWh/mile? Is that a mistake or are you just trolling?
@@KsiNixNie Haha. No not trolling but it was a mistake.
Let's try 2 miles per kWh......
So far this week 52kWh per 100 miles according to the car.
@@1evilpie OMG.. The Oxford Dictionary may just have found a new synonym for 'inefficient'. My e-Niro would use 28 kWh for that distance at reasonable motorway speeds. But the Polestar is a beaut, that's for sure.
@@KsiNixNie I watched a video of an e-niro John O'Groats to lands end trip recently and the efficiency looked incredible. It was definitely on my list but it was just a tad too sensible for me as a single guy with no kids.....
My 100 miles is mostly made up of journeys between 2 and 4 miles so I'm always in that heating the battery and cabin zone. I think this will account for a lot of the poor figures but it's still significantly worse than I was expecting.
I have a 380 mile round trip planned in a few weeks so will report back then. The recall is booked for next week so that may have an effect as well......
Get some rain-x anti fog
I always drive with heat/aircon in auto, why drive any other way as that’s how I would drive an ICE car. I still get at least 4.2 mpkw. On my Kona. Have to agree with you instavolt are the best, ionity suck. It’s a real pity that OctopusEnergy don’t have their own charging network instead of an RFID card to access some charge points. Instavolt! 🤔You have to wave your card back over the screen to stop the charge otherwise any sh1t could come along and stop the charge. 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄😂🤣😂🤣
I just wanted to test the theoretical maximum efficiency. I’d love to do the trip again with it set to ‘auto’ to see what difference it makes! I easily reached destinations with no range anxiety at all so I obviously would have been absolutely fine.
It is confusing that Instavolt says ‘stop charging’ without any direction to say wave your card. A bit of a user experience fail I think! Their old chargers say to wave the card again from what I remember.
The Shell Recharge charger I used later in the trip did allow me to stop the charge just by pressing the ‘stop’ button, interestingly!
you like ionity 39p kWh now you were then going to a charger that is priced at 69p kWh which was going to get more kWh needed at a higher price and cost being gotten
I think you should be wanting Aldi or Lidi charger as at 23p kWh.
when it came to will i stop at a charger you said it may be free the you goto it and if not free you go to the 81% if free then just charge higher or for how long you are happy to stay for.
ABRP does it take into account price as it should find fast charger at cheapest price
Now you used shell at 39p in redruth there is a morrisons where it was £1 connection then 30p kWh which if you put in more that 10 kWh of power would be cheaper price and then could have just went in supermarket and bought cheaper food etc so instead of £13.46 it would have been £11.35 and it was on the route your were on.
and by the way there are only 2 peddles in an ev so there is no middle one.
36:11 Porsche 918
It’s the AC that makes the car steam up faster. Just running the fan without AC is much better energy wise - just don’t ask for heat. :)