Wasn't sure how much I'd pick up from this as the first few tips were pretty obvious to me, but man the tip to rolling an awning and Eucalyptus oil to keep it fresh are winner in my book, saved for future reference and earned a thumbs up 👍
yeah, some of them were no-brainers for sure but there is always someone who is just starting out, especially with swags....they seem to be getting more popular outside Australia. Thanks for watching and thanks for taking a minute to leave a comment, appreciate it ✌🏻
Great suggestions. Thanks! I use a shade cloth/mesh groundsheet instead of a tarp so any rain doesn't pool around/under the swag. I also use a small canvas bag (Blacksmith Picaninny) in the swag and put everything in it, rather than use pockets. Bag comes out at pack-up. No chance of losing keys that way. Will watch more of your vids - thanks!
Yeah, I have seen videos about those mesh groundsheets and when the time come to replace I'll check them out. They're good for sand too form what I understand. Good tip about the bag, even just to keep everything in one spot, I am constantly going to the wrong pocket! Thanks for stopping by and taking time to give me your tips, feedback and thoughts, really an appreciate it. ✌🏻
You can roll your swag up with the end poles still in place. Just fold the poles in three and leave the middle one through the material where it already is. Saves a couple of mins.
Some swags you shouldn't do that, like the wanderer extreme ones, people snap poles trying to short cut things - tension not balanced causing the snapping. It's only a few seconds to put the poles on safely and securely.
I used to have a double dome swag but now I have a king single AOS bushman deluxe swag on an oztrail stretcher. I got rid of the foam matress as I never got comfortable with them. I use a black wolf 100mm hexatherm 3d self inflating mat and it all rolls up to one third of the size now. It’s really comfortable and if I need to I put up a hiking tarp just as you have. I also got a SwagPocketz sheet set and use a wool blanket as I hate sleeping in a sleeping bag. But I keep a warm sleeping bag handy just in case. Love your set up and we have to remind ourselves that you dont need to spend thousands to just get out there for a few nights at a time. Cheers!
Cheers Gary, thanks for your thoughts, appreciate it. Someone else mentioned the idea of removing the mattress a couple of weeks ago too. Makes sense, it is what takes up a lot of the volume. I struggle with the inflatable pads, but might give it a go with one of those thin foam ones. I was pondering buying a 900mm swag to scale it down so I can get further from the car, so this helps, thanks ✌🏻
I use the glow in the dark toggles. I got the idea from you in another of your videos. A new tip today in the idea of leaving a couple of extras in the swag (e.g. some eucalyptus essential oil). That’s a good idea. Cheers.
Glad you liked it, makes a bigger difference then you think it will. Thanks for stopping by and taking a minute to give some feedback, appreciate it ✌🏻
A guy with a 23zero swag - he knows his stuff! Lol. I’ve got the 1550 outbreak but yet to use it and I absolutely can’t wait to do so. Being 50 also, I like my comfort so went with a swag I can literally spend the day in if I have to (cook, sit up in it etc etc) should the weather turn sour for a while. Been caught in a week long drizzle & learnt my lesson. However, if I go by myself, I’ll swap out the 1550 mattress for a 900 wide so the pack up size is halved. Anyway, great vid & happy travels!
Cheers mates, thanks for taking the time to leave a comment, really appreciate it. Great tip about the 900mm mattress too. I might look into that, I usually have a bunch of stuff in the swag with me that doesn't need any comfort and will save a few kg. Nice one. Week long rain sounds like a tough sort of week if you're camping! Thanks for stopping by ✌🏻
so much info, started slow but picked up. The scented oil is a great idea never thought about that. Your videos are really good and well made, good luck.
Yeah, I gathered you're a hammock camper. I'd like to do more hike-in camps so will probably use the hammock more over summer. Finding time is the tricky bit😛 thanks for stopping by again ✌🏻
would like to add that essential oils can possibly help deter spiders. apparently peppermint is quite effective for spiders and ants, so thats another reason to douse the swag in them 🤣
I always find it funny. A swag (original form) was the weatherproof shelter in itself, which also contained bedding (as sleeping bags where not either invented or hard to get) so why put up shelters over it for the purpose of keeping rain/dew off. A tarp maybe for doing other things under, like cooking etc. but not to keep rain off.
yeah, I get that, I do sit under the tarp as you say, but I like to keep the rain and frost off the swag simply because it is easier to dry out a tarp than it is to dry out a wet swag. Plus, no matter how careful, with a side door on a swag, water always gets in when you open it. A tarp take a few minutes so find it worthwhile. I never use it if there is no chance of the swag getting wet though ✌🏻
Hi Jerry, no real reason why I don't other than I never started and now just like being on the ground. Plus, as you say, it's another thing to set up. I went camping with a mate plenty of time and he always uses one. I am notoriously lazy too 😛 Thanks for watching and taking a minute to reach out ✌🏻
Hi from the States! I’ve just recently learned of swags, as they aren’t as popular here for whatever reason. However I love the idea of them and I’ve been considering the 23zero Dual 900 because I can put it on cot, or stretcher as you call it, or right on the ground. What are your thoughts on the 23zero itself compared to other brands? We don’t have many brand options here in the states unfortunately. Great video and tips!
Hi James, good to hear the word is getting over your side of the Pacific. Swags are a brilliant option and the most comfortable, provided you don't have to hike anywhere with it. There are lots of versions on the market here in Australia that are 99% the same. I chose 23Zero because it didn't need to be seasoned - seasoning is where you need to soak the entire swag in water for a few hours and let it dry in the sun to expand the canvas and seal the seams properly. The 900 with act or stretcher is a great option, go for it and spread the word. Thanks for stopping by, hope it help ✌🏻
Hi, I just brought myself a swag. Got any good tips to stop the swag sag. Great video by the way love the essential oil idea and yes, blow up pillows are horrible.
Great tips! I’m from the U.S. & I’m considering getting myself a swag for 3-season car camping. They seem so much better than my tents! I’m pretty sure that if I get a swag, I’ll need a hat like yours, too…what kind of hat is that, if you don’t mind me asking?
Cheers Chris, thanks for dropping by and thanks for leaving a comment. You'll not be disappointed with a swag for car camping. They really are super comfortable and easy to use, but it comes with some weight. They're sure starting to get a foothold in the US and Europe which is cool. The hat I am wearing is an Akubra, Fawn Cattleman and I also have a Black Liesuretime and a Loden Riverina - brim width is basically different, so different uses. They are iconic Aussie felt hats, bit exxy, but last forever. Our version of a Stetson I guess ✌🏻 Good luck with your adventures!
I love the look of these swags as an American tho I struggle to see the niche these fits into, as for their weight I’d rather get a Kodiak flex bow or springbar tent as their just a bit more weight than these are right? But idk I still love the ruggedness of them so there’s that.. Are most swags like this waterproof too?
Hi Alexander, thanks for stopping by and taking a minute to reach out, appreciate it. First of all, the niche down here in Australia is really the 4x4 camper. The swag has a history as a bedroll, bit like cowboy camping I guess, and they morphed into what you see in me video. They're getting a bit more popular over your way though, I a seeing a lot of comments from the US asking about them and see a bun ch of videos about them. They are rugged and last for ever. The canvas is very sturdy and totally waterproof. Some swag need to be seasoned first - soaked in water to expand the thread around the stitching and seams, but the one I have comes ready to go. I have never had water get in, but I am also pretty careful and use a trap if I expect rain, but get caught sometimes. They're good in the cold if you zip them up, your body will keep it pretty warm, the benefit of the smallish size, but the down side is you can't stand in them like the zodiac etc. pros and cons I guess with everything. I love swag camping, been how I have camped for 35 years and it is a bit off an 'aussie' sort of thing that I like too. Hope that helps, give it a go if you can borrow one and see maybe 🙂 ✌🏻
@@outandabout_oz thanks brother, that makes sense. It looks awesome for sure! I’ll have to get one some day and find out;) Cheers and thanks for the thorough reply! Have a great weekend.
nice one, hope you get lots of use out of it. Not sure where you are, but here is the place I got mine from, there are 3x different sizes. 23zero.com.au/product-category/spare-parts/ I suspect most places would do spares thought or maybe check a foam place like this and cut something cut to size: www.clarkrubber.com.au/shop/category/foam-shapes good luck, you'll love it once you get it up and running ✌🏻
it's a nylon tarp and I have a couple of different sizes. They're from DD Hammocks out of the UK but they have resellers in Australia. Great gear, still as good as the day I bought them and I have had them for years ✌🏻
I feel like if youre going to leave the swag open and use a tarp anyway a swag is pointless for you, just buy a hiking tent with a seperate fly and leave the fly off, itll be like a 2 man tent made of mesh. Would be roomier, cheaper and lighter too.
yeah, I actually do have a 2 man hiking tent which I use the same way or more often without the tarp. I like the swag though because the canvas is sturdier and warmer, plus it comes with a foam mattress! I am not a fan of air mattresses which you need in a tent. It is really a horses for courses thing though 🙂 Thanks for watching and taking a minute to leave a comment, appreciate it ✌🏻
yeah G'day, good timing, I was just tidying some stuff up and saw your comment. They're bother really good and I tried out both. Hard call, the Bandit has the extra rail across the middle which will help with the sag ups might get on a 1400 so there's that. The down side is the doors are a bit smaller. I have the 1100 and there is not really any sag even after a few years, but not sure about the 1400. I like the look of the bandit if that helps. Either way, you're on a winner, they build good gear and you don; have to season it! ✌🏻
yeah, I have had that suggestion before and will do so when I next upgrade. The tarps I have just keep going though! I rarely get water on or under the tarp, so have kept mould away, but it is a bit of a challenge! Thanks for watching, appreciate you taking a minute to ping me a comment, cheers✌🏻
Wasn't sure how much I'd pick up from this as the first few tips were pretty obvious to me, but man the tip to rolling an awning and Eucalyptus oil to keep it fresh are winner in my book, saved for future reference and earned a thumbs up 👍
yeah, some of them were no-brainers for sure but there is always someone who is just starting out, especially with swags....they seem to be getting more popular outside Australia. Thanks for watching and thanks for taking a minute to leave a comment, appreciate it ✌🏻
@@outandabout_oz all great tips even if they are obvious. I am new to swags so this was good to watch. I will adopt a lot of these.
@@pm1831 no worries, glad it helped out
Great suggestions. Thanks! I use a shade cloth/mesh groundsheet instead of a tarp so any rain doesn't pool around/under the swag. I also use a small canvas bag (Blacksmith Picaninny) in the swag and put everything in it, rather than use pockets. Bag comes out at pack-up. No chance of losing keys that way. Will watch more of your vids - thanks!
Yeah, I have seen videos about those mesh groundsheets and when the time come to replace I'll check them out. They're good for sand too form what I understand. Good tip about the bag, even just to keep everything in one spot, I am constantly going to the wrong pocket! Thanks for stopping by and taking time to give me your tips, feedback and thoughts, really an appreciate it. ✌🏻
You can roll your swag up with the end poles still in place. Just fold the poles in three and leave the middle one through the material where it already is. Saves a couple of mins.
nice one, never thought of that and will give it a go. Thanks for the feedback ✌🏻
Some swags you shouldn't do that, like the wanderer extreme ones, people snap poles trying to short cut things - tension not balanced causing the snapping. It's only a few seconds to put the poles on safely and securely.
I used to have a double dome swag but now I have a king single AOS bushman deluxe swag on an oztrail stretcher. I got rid of the foam matress as I never got comfortable with them. I use a black wolf 100mm hexatherm 3d self inflating mat and it all rolls up to one third of the size now. It’s really comfortable and if I need to I put up a hiking tarp just as you have. I also got a SwagPocketz sheet set and use a wool blanket as I hate sleeping in a sleeping bag. But I keep a warm sleeping bag handy just in case. Love your set up and we have to remind ourselves that you dont need to spend thousands to just get out there for a few nights at a time. Cheers!
Cheers Gary, thanks for your thoughts, appreciate it. Someone else mentioned the idea of removing the mattress a couple of weeks ago too. Makes sense, it is what takes up a lot of the volume. I struggle with the inflatable pads, but might give it a go with one of those thin foam ones. I was pondering buying a 900mm swag to scale it down so I can get further from the car, so this helps, thanks ✌🏻
I use the glow in the dark toggles. I got the idea from you in another of your videos. A new tip today in the idea of leaving a couple of extras in the swag (e.g. some eucalyptus essential oil). That’s a good idea. Cheers.
Glad you liked it, makes a bigger difference then you think it will. Thanks for stopping by and taking a minute to give some feedback, appreciate it ✌🏻
Some great tips there!
We have the 23zero swags as well and love them.
Thanks for sharing :)
Yeah, I saw them in your Wimmera video. Maybe not for 2 people but certainly one person and a doggo 🙂
nice bunch of tips and great advice, using oil is a great idea and so is the doors roll up method 👍🏼 great video
cheers, yeah, the oils make a big difference for minimal hassle ✌🏻
@@outandabout_oz great idea 😀
for sure
A guy with a 23zero swag - he knows his stuff! Lol. I’ve got the 1550 outbreak but yet to use it and I absolutely can’t wait to do so. Being 50 also, I like my comfort so went with a swag I can literally spend the day in if I have to (cook, sit up in it etc etc) should the weather turn sour for a while. Been caught in a week long drizzle & learnt my lesson. However, if I go by myself, I’ll swap out the 1550 mattress for a 900 wide so the pack up size is halved.
Anyway, great vid & happy travels!
Cheers mates, thanks for taking the time to leave a comment, really appreciate it. Great tip about the 900mm mattress too. I might look into that, I usually have a bunch of stuff in the swag with me that doesn't need any comfort and will save a few kg. Nice one. Week long rain sounds like a tough sort of week if you're camping! Thanks for stopping by ✌🏻
so much info, started slow but picked up. The scented oil is a great idea never thought about that. Your videos are really good and well made, good luck.
Awesome! Thank you! Glad you picked some ideas up, that's what it is all about. Thanks for the feedback, appreciate you✌🏻
Great tips! The blow up pillows are the worst haha.
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Thanks for the video, keep 'em coming!
Thanks, will do, still having fun 🙂
Thanks for the video. Swags are probably not for me, but interesting to get a different perspective.
Yeah, I gathered you're a hammock camper. I'd like to do more hike-in camps so will probably use the hammock more over summer. Finding time is the tricky bit😛 thanks for stopping by again ✌🏻
Thanks. Appreciated. Great tips!
Thank you....haven't thought of Mr Magoo for many years either, so thanks for that as well ✌🏻
would like to add that essential oils can possibly help deter spiders. apparently peppermint is quite effective for spiders and ants, so thats another reason to douse the swag in them 🤣
brilliant, I have never thought about that, thanks for the feedback. Makes total sense, cheers and thanks for watching ✌🏻
thank you bro absolutely amazing vid
so glad you enjoyed it and thanks for stopping by, appreciate you taking a nite to leave a comment ✌🏻
Another great video …😎⛺️
cheers mate, thanks for stopping by ✌🏻
Appreciate your knowledge
Thank you! Glad you found it useful, hard to know what people are after when you post these types of videos, thanks for the feedback ✌🏻
100 percent agree about the blow-up pillows, used a couple and they are shit, went to kmart and spent like 20 bucks on a pillow cover and case
Ha Ha Ha, yep, your Kmart was my Ikea and I reckon it was under $10 for me. Thanks for dropping by and taking a minute to leave a comment, cheers ✌🏻
I always find it funny. A swag (original form) was the weatherproof shelter in itself, which also contained bedding (as sleeping bags where not either invented or hard to get) so why put up shelters over it for the purpose of keeping rain/dew off. A tarp maybe for doing other things under, like cooking etc. but not to keep rain off.
yeah, I get that, I do sit under the tarp as you say, but I like to keep the rain and frost off the swag simply because it is easier to dry out a tarp than it is to dry out a wet swag. Plus, no matter how careful, with a side door on a swag, water always gets in when you open it. A tarp take a few minutes so find it worthwhile. I never use it if there is no chance of the swag getting wet though ✌🏻
Great video
How come you don’t use a stretcher to be off the ground
I suppose it’s another bag to carry and more time spent on set up
Hi Jerry, no real reason why I don't other than I never started and now just like being on the ground. Plus, as you say, it's another thing to set up. I went camping with a mate plenty of time and he always uses one. I am notoriously lazy too 😛
Thanks for watching and taking a minute to reach out ✌🏻
Hi from the States! I’ve just recently learned of swags, as they aren’t as popular here for whatever reason. However I love the idea of them and I’ve been considering the 23zero Dual 900 because I can put it on cot, or stretcher as you call it, or right on the ground. What are your thoughts on the 23zero itself compared to other brands? We don’t have many brand options here in the states unfortunately. Great video and tips!
Hi James, good to hear the word is getting over your side of the Pacific. Swags are a brilliant option and the most comfortable, provided you don't have to hike anywhere with it. There are lots of versions on the market here in Australia that are 99% the same. I chose 23Zero because it didn't need to be seasoned - seasoning is where you need to soak the entire swag in water for a few hours and let it dry in the sun to expand the canvas and seal the seams properly.
The 900 with act or stretcher is a great option, go for it and spread the word.
Thanks for stopping by, hope it help ✌🏻
I bought the king single from Ironman4x4 and the build quality is amazing. Its one beefy swag!
Hi, I just brought myself a swag. Got any good tips to stop the swag sag. Great video by the way love the essential oil idea and yes, blow up pillows are horrible.
Great tips! I’m from the U.S. & I’m considering getting myself a swag for 3-season car camping. They seem so much better than my tents! I’m pretty sure that if I get a swag, I’ll need a hat like yours, too…what kind of hat is that, if you don’t mind me asking?
Cheers Chris, thanks for dropping by and thanks for leaving a comment. You'll not be disappointed with a swag for car camping. They really are super comfortable and easy to use, but it comes with some weight. They're sure starting to get a foothold in the US and Europe which is cool. The hat I am wearing is an Akubra, Fawn Cattleman and I also have a Black Liesuretime and a Loden Riverina - brim width is basically different, so different uses. They are iconic Aussie felt hats, bit exxy, but last forever. Our version of a Stetson I guess ✌🏻
Good luck with your adventures!
@@outandabout_oz Thank you very much! I appreciate all the info!
I love the look of these swags as an American tho I struggle to see the niche these fits into, as for their weight I’d rather get a Kodiak flex bow or springbar tent as their just a bit more weight than these are right?
But idk I still love the ruggedness of them so there’s that..
Are most swags like this waterproof too?
Hi Alexander, thanks for stopping by and taking a minute to reach out, appreciate it.
First of all, the niche down here in Australia is really the 4x4 camper. The swag has a history as a bedroll, bit like cowboy camping I guess, and they morphed into what you see in me video. They're getting a bit more popular over your way though, I a seeing a lot of comments from the US asking about them and see a bun ch of videos about them.
They are rugged and last for ever. The canvas is very sturdy and totally waterproof. Some swag need to be seasoned first - soaked in water to expand the thread around the stitching and seams, but the one I have comes ready to go. I have never had water get in, but I am also pretty careful and use a trap if I expect rain, but get caught sometimes.
They're good in the cold if you zip them up, your body will keep it pretty warm, the benefit of the smallish size, but the down side is you can't stand in them like the zodiac etc. pros and cons I guess with everything.
I love swag camping, been how I have camped for 35 years and it is a bit off an 'aussie' sort of thing that I like too.
Hope that helps, give it a go if you can borrow one and see maybe 🙂 ✌🏻
@@outandabout_oz thanks brother, that makes sense. It looks awesome for sure! I’ll have to get one some day and find out;)
Cheers and thanks for the thorough reply! Have a great weekend.
@@AlexanderHonsVonEber no worries, enjoy your weekend too ✌🏻
I got a swag for free but it comes with no mattress, any suggestions on where to buy one similar at the ones that comes? Thanks!
nice one, hope you get lots of use out of it. Not sure where you are, but here is the place I got mine from, there are 3x different sizes.
23zero.com.au/product-category/spare-parts/
I suspect most places would do spares thought or maybe check a foam place like this and cut something cut to size:
www.clarkrubber.com.au/shop/category/foam-shapes
good luck, you'll love it once you get it up and running ✌🏻
@@outandabout_oz Im from Chile but now living in Tasmania hehe. Thanks!! Im eager to try it! 🏕
Where do you get your canvas awning
I mean fly over swag
it's a nylon tarp and I have a couple of different sizes. They're from DD Hammocks out of the UK but they have resellers in Australia. Great gear, still as good as the day I bought them and I have had them for years ✌🏻
I feel like if youre going to leave the swag open and use a tarp anyway a swag is pointless for you, just buy a hiking tent with a seperate fly and leave the fly off, itll be like a 2 man tent made of mesh. Would be roomier, cheaper and lighter too.
yeah, I actually do have a 2 man hiking tent which I use the same way or more often without the tarp. I like the swag though because the canvas is sturdier and warmer, plus it comes with a foam mattress! I am not a fan of air mattresses which you need in a tent. It is really a horses for courses thing though 🙂
Thanks for watching and taking a minute to leave a comment, appreciate it ✌🏻
I'm looking at a 23Zero 1400.... but can't decide on the dual versus the bandit. Any strong advantages of one over the other? Many thanks
yeah G'day, good timing, I was just tidying some stuff up and saw your comment. They're bother really good and I tried out both. Hard call, the Bandit has the extra rail across the middle which will help with the sag ups might get on a 1400 so there's that. The down side is the doors are a bit smaller. I have the 1100 and there is not really any sag even after a few years, but not sure about the 1400.
I like the look of the bandit if that helps. Either way, you're on a winner, they build good gear and you don; have to season it! ✌🏻
Put it on a mesh tarp not an actual tarp, will form mould in the rain underneath
yeah, I have had that suggestion before and will do so when I next upgrade. The tarps I have just keep going though! I rarely get water on or under the tarp, so have kept mould away, but it is a bit of a challenge!
Thanks for watching, appreciate you taking a minute to ping me a comment, cheers✌🏻
Ya getting soft haha
yeah, fair call ✌🏻
HaHaHa blow up pillows
✌🏻 glad you agree 🙂
many a sore neck from them @@outandabout_oz
classic @@outandabout_oz
yeah there not good, to noisy@@outandabout_oz
@@outandabout_oz blow up pillow blow chance I agree with your opinion