Why Is 10.2 Havoc DH SO GOOD ?!
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- Опубликовано: 5 дек 2023
- 🔥Welcome back to MarcelianOnline, your home for all things World of Warcraft! In today's video, we're diving deep into the Havoc Demon Hunter in patch 10.2. We'll explore why this class is dominating the meta, with in-depth analysis and tips to maximize your gameplay. 💪
From talent builds to rotation nuances, we've got you covered! If you're a fan of Havoc DH or just curious about why it's so good right now, this video is a must-watch. Don't forget to hit that like button if you find the video helpful and subscribe for more WoW content. Let's jump right in! 🚀
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Never could get into DH. Just here to support, watch, like, and comment.
And we appreciate it, actually means a lot
Instead of nerfing Havoc they should take it as a Blueprint for all other specs.
TBF, buffs always feel better, idc if we end up doin g +40s
Numerical nerfs are fine. If you want to simply steamroll content do lfr.
@@johnj4471ok shadow priest
@@johnj4471sorry if you aren’t getting invited, let the rest have fun ok ? 😊
😂😂 META players always say the same lol imagine how easy M+ would be if everyone would be pumping these numbers like Havoc🤦🏻♂️
I'm going to sound like the noob I am, but how do you attain set pieces? Do ya'll have a video about it that I missed? Is it only obtainable if I pick up raiding? Anyways, excellent video as always yall.
Think we talked about the catalyst in one of the 10.2 videos, either the overview, or if it's worth coming back to the game
@@MarcelianOnline awesome I must have missed it, I'll go back and look for it now thanks yall
The Fact that I as a Frost DK Main for almost 14 Years can tell you, that if my spec doesnt get a rework like Rogue or DH, i will never see this class in any Tier higher than B in the future is saddening
Like Havoc is great again all of a sudden (it was for most of it's existence tbh) and i am just jealous of this spec. When do I get special treatment ?
Truth man, 100% agree dk needs a rework, frost being the baddest atm
Bruh I always been an arms warrior took 3 year wow break ( wish I never came back) rolled dk blood is OK frost😢 is it really bad or is it me jeezuz I do bad dps as it
(cries in survival hunter) feel you man surv talent tree is just like a pub after a drunkard fight which means not in a great shape
Actually nvm I just uninstalled heading back to ff14 yall take care
Easy, it has 0 challenging gameplay and was intended for Single Digit iq players. Press 3 Buttons and top dmg
May I ask is it really so hard to get into M+ Groups and Raids as a DPS? (WL / Rogue)?
Playing Heal since Cata so never had the DPS Experience.
Not at all, Infact warlock and rogue are in a good place at the moment 😄 would recommend demo lock though since the other 2 specs are meh
@@nileshchainpuria6383Destro is crazy too in M+ affli is lacking a bit cause of the talent tree would need a revamp but alot of Top 1% lock playing destro
@@tobiyt3414 Yeah it got some buffs so its coming up slowly hehe
DH is what happens when nearly every button you push is cleave and DoTs that are spreadable.
what about new lego axe ? will that axe boost warr/pala/dk ranking ? or its gonna be average lego upgrade ? we need video on that topic too :D please can you cover new lego axe affecting melees ?
Some top tier Rets and DK's did the math, it's like 5-7% damage increase in single target and a little less in AoE.
The branch is a true dmg boost.
@@stankweezul5715 And if you're a mainly blood dk DO NOT waste your time and gold on getting the legendary axe unless you only want it for transmog reasons, its still okay for blood but don't use the USE effect cause you will not be able to do anything in till the channeled attack is done and as a blood dk that equals death.
Speaking of Nerfs, the ones coming up even aren't going to hurt us that much as Havoc. If my math is mathing, which it usually isn't, it's probably only going to hurt us by about 2-3% overall. 5% on each ragefire and a fire inside, and 10% on collective anguish. Sounds like a lot but I'm still fully expecting HDH to stay on top
Of course its gonna stay on top with the amount of selfheal and utility it brings to a party
Why is a class that has less buttons than others and has short cd burst dmg so good in constant that is fast past ? XD we need a genus find that out !
Is nobody gonna say anything about him saying essence burst instead of essence break… as a DH main since before it was good it’s really bothering me
Actually 10.2 rotation is exactly the same since the beginning of Dragon flight. Fel barrage is the only difference and that’s if you take it.
Well, consistency helps then I guess :D
no mover enjoyer here :D
Tried it,had fun but still went back to Ret :D DH class fantasy just isn't for me and feels kinda "edgy",but the rework was really nice.
Same here, was fun, still is, not my jam, but can appreciate it :D
I just came back recently (thanks Metzen) so I dusted off my pally, dk, bm-h, and Dh and decided to go with my Dh because it was just the MoST fun. Now I’m 70 and thinking great of course it’s the op spec. Do I care about nerfs, not really, but I don’t want to nerfed into the ground.
You will be
Been playing havoc since legion and.....i hate how they did havoc but imma stay loyal till the end with my dh
why? Cuz the numbers are toned too high that need to be re-typed in by bliz on their end.
Only thing ill say about the Inertia/High Movement builds is that i see DH's dash right into frontal cones or tank busters all the time. Its like they cant help themselves
He's wrecking havoc :)
ESSENCE BURST!!
Same old pattern if you want to push high keys. Need to play meta group comp
Kinda sucks how much more fun being a FotM player is. I've been a DK main since Wrath, but DF I've been playing whatever melee is OP(for M+) and it's wild to me just how bad DK has it compared to most of the other melee in terms of kit and playstyle (imo).
Dk is really huge now… What are u talking
I hate momentum build so much its why i quit playing dh.
no mover build dose just as much dps with less risk
If I wasn't so invested in my BM Hunter (462 ilvl, full tier, perma-augment rune obtained), I'd consider the Demon Hunter. But I enjoy being at ranged and having helpers too much! :D
Prob u don't have much time or whatever but at this point of the season 460 is easily reachable with an alter just with clearing lfr, using the sparks and doing the campaign, u can change whenever u want right now and u will freely have 4p with the catalyst rn. Not blaming u just saying u can play whatever u want without having to spend much time rn.
I can never beat bm hunters in dmg as a havoc dh. Trying to look into why I can’t keep up with lotsa classes but especially bm hunters or rogues destroy my dmg every time
@@B-Str0Then u play the havoc wrong cause it pumps like crazy OR your tanks pull wrong and not arround u
It's god damn broken, my 385 dh makes almost same dps as my frost dk 423. Never played dh before and mained frost before :/
Pls blizz, buff spriests 😭😭😭😭😭😭
Havoc is melting meters really if one applies to my key I will take them
ilvl 476 2400 rating and declined for +16 keys for 2 hours solid seems i havent found you yet
Why Is 10.2 Havoc DH SO GOOD ?! ...... Because it's overtuned.
Were you advocating for it last tier when it was dogshit?
To save you 11 minutes - overtuned, simple as that.
Short answer to the title, cause its broken dot.
havoc is good cuz they haven't done the same mistakes during the rework as with ret paladin...
The answer is easy, Blizzard have no clue what they are doing. It's evident when they make a class OP that didn't really need a rework but classes that haven't been good in years are still trash tier
DH was bottom tier all through Season 1 and Season 2.
@@nitogame Yes but it didn't need a rework as much as other specs did. DH hasn't been as dire as feral or WW or affliction which have been at the bottom for more than one expansion. DH only needed tuning
@@shianova Sure but DH has only ONE dps spec. If feral sucks, you go boomkin, if frost sucks you go unholy, if affliction sucks you go demo or destro. If havoc sucks you can only tank or reroll. If DH had a third spec then yes, you would've been correct. Right now DH was rightfully a priority.
@@nitogame What kind of logic is that, why should I have to change specs because it sucks, I'm a feral main and in no way do I want to go boomy which is a completely different playstyle that I do not like. I would have to reroll into another melee as well since I do not like casters. What's your argument for WW monks then when they have sucked forever and need a rework much more than DH. I'm not saying DH was not warranted, but some specs have been on life support for years and nothing is done with them
Because blizzard made it broken on release, just like they did with ret.
Hate when havoc is meta, makes a lot harder to avoid them in keys and most is just button smashing monkeys😘 btw were any other reworks teased or prolly might happens only next expansion?
This guy hates people havin fun lol
They had a rework... every one is after a rework great. Look paly last time 😅
Bottom line, they are so good because Blizzard wants them to be. No explanation needed, thank you for your video.
Cuz they completely over tuned the fking spec
There are more aspects to it than the one dimension look at its dps
Havok isnt "Good" in any way. Its overpowered to the stupid levels, it should(and will be) nerfed. Blizzard just cant balance their game properly, if this isnt made on purpose (whitch i think it probably was), to reignite passion of players and orr make them level a DH if whey dont have one. Worst of all - it works.
DH is top at M+. DH does it at the raids. DH had 3k raiting in area when closest top1 of other classes had 2400 at best. This isnt normal shit, its so broken, that it shouldnt be nerfed first week -0 IT SHOULDNT HAVE EVEN MADE IT TO LIVE SERVERS. But here we are, and its still doesnt fixed.
Oh, and its on top of the fact DH is one of the classes with most sustain, and arguebly most mobile class in the game.
AND adding to the fact that whey have one of if not THE most simple rotation and less buttons than all other classes overall.
World of demon hunters, for fucks sake. Every time before when we had some class that was THIS good it was nerfed pretty much instantly, as it was clearly not intended... But for some reason - not now.
And yeah, il admit it - i hate it. Im salty about that. Because im not getting in a keys and raids cause whey want HDH as a melee, and im not one. I have troubles with a DH in arena, as whey could sustain themself enogh whey can climb 2k without a healer in both 3x3 and 2x2. And whey can do it, while playing easyer difficulty too.
Lets be real, we shouldnt be happy about it. Even DH. Its cancer. And not only it will be nerfed - its just a sign that it will happen again. And it will be broken and bad again. Just with other classes.
Rogues got rework this time as well. And whey are good. Legit good, but not broken. This is benchmark whey should focus to get. DH at its current state isnt GOOD by any means. Its a FAILURE.
Because when you rework class your main goal is to make game better for the ones playing it. Not to make it worse for everybody who does not.
Havoc is not as easy for a new player like you’d say. While it’s nothing like enhancement it still needs a good level of understanding when playing 😅
It’s amazing you can write that much when you clearly don’t know what you’re talking about 😂
@@nileshchainpuria6383 I never said it's easy for a new player, I said it's criminally easy compared to other dos specs in the game. And despite not playing all of them by now I have played all in past 3 addons, and have keeped my eye upon them since. Oh, no, I'm mistaken, I never actually played augmentation, so it's not like I played all. But you hardly can call it dps spec, really. My point still stands - in all, rotation, dungeon play and PvP scenarios havoc is incredibly easy. It's hard to truly master, yes, but would you disagree that a demon hunter doing 30% and having same dps as, for example, destruction, doing 95%, while pressing 2-3 times less buttons, having all mobility in the world and almost being unable to die is a problem?
Havoc isn't easy for a new player. Not even a single spec truly is. But havoc is easy for a normal player.
@@nileshchainpuria6383 i actually think my enhancment is way more easy to play than my dh lol
@@kilner79haha... dont know on which level you play, but this is simply not true... 😅😂
Dh is really easy... and i am a fury main and its easier to...
Mark my words: DH will be nerfed more than into the ground
Yea? What do u saying now after huge nerfs bozo? Still crying right?
dude if blizzard nerfs anything its enough they have never been good at so called balancing.nerfs bother me because blizzard doesn't know when to stop they ride that bs every new xpac. they made the game they know its going to do that.
the ai thumbnails are getting out of hand
I was very instant on play balance Druid this patch but after watching DHs destroy meters I dropped balance so fast
Why?
This meta bish mentality makes us mains for years to wait more for m+ runs.
Balance is pumping too tho
It isn't.
because its made for children lol.
It’s the most stupid class in the hole game I don’t like it it’s boring and it’s for cry baby to get to gladiator cuz they have to use cheat macros from shamans other cheat macros to when blizzard need to fix there shit and macros
BeCaUsE oF rEwOrK. BliZzArD dOnT kNoW hOw To MaKe tHeIr Sh1T. He will be nerfed back to average like everyone
So hardly disagree with that statement. After a rework it's better to have something op rather than underperform, remember ret rework, loot at rogue rework, remember priest rework. You want players to play the reworked spec so incentive matters.
Havoc player since BfA and I HATE how Havoc plays in Dragonflight and now🥲 getting all your dmg from a 6 sec window is just not fun at all
why?