10.2 Vengeance Rework IS CRAZY!

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  • Опубликовано: 30 сен 2023
  • Welcome back to MarcelianOnline, your one-stop channel for all things World of Warcraft! Today, we're diving deep into the world of Monks. 🧘‍♂️ With all the reworks happening, it's high time we discussed the potential for a Monk rework.
    We'll be exploring the current issues with all three specs of the class, and why a rework could be on the horizon. With input from top theory crafters, we'll be highlighting the changes that could take the Monk class to the next level.
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  • @MarcelianOnline
    @MarcelianOnline  9 месяцев назад +1

    JOIN THE FAM! 💥 www.patreon.com/marcelianonline
    The Amazing 10.2 Havoc DH Rework👀ruclips.net/video/0n5X4bwDpUE/видео.html
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  • @Maddawg1984
    @Maddawg1984 9 месяцев назад +13

    So hyped for Vengeance DH and Havoc glad my favorite class is getting the attention it needs

  • @butterflysrage
    @butterflysrage 9 месяцев назад +14

    I really hope DH gets a 3rd spec soon.

    • @Kotoy1
      @Kotoy1 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@xHollox that would literally just be a warlock

    • @grumpydinosaur2347
      @grumpydinosaur2347 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@Kotoy1made it somewhat support just not like augmentation but more like of debuff, cc type

    • @xHollox
      @xHollox 9 месяцев назад

      @@Kotoy1I mean I don’t design the specs or classes lol. It’s coming in the next few weeks. Been datamined already.

    • @sacrosanctus318
      @sacrosanctus318 9 месяцев назад +1

      I'd like to see a dh spec that uses void, a void hunter.

    • @mowgaz3439
      @mowgaz3439 9 месяцев назад

      Inquisitor makes literally no sense on a demon hunter. Since Inquisitor is a title of priests.@@xHollox

  • @gregoryshinn9805
    @gregoryshinn9805 9 месяцев назад

    Thanks for the video

  • @albertlaurentiu4099
    @albertlaurentiu4099 9 месяцев назад +5

    In the last tier list you ranked demon hunter in c for fun. What would you rate it now with the new changes?

  • @MadKingLemon
    @MadKingLemon 9 месяцев назад +3

    Tier sets are the new borrowed power. Which is, I think, the best way for them to do borrowed power.

    • @monkeysk8er33
      @monkeysk8er33 9 месяцев назад

      Lmfao have you never played an MMO before, or did you just start playing WoW in BFA? Cause Sets aren't new borrowed power, they've been around, on and off, since VANILLA, bro.
      God, people are fucking stupid 🤣

  • @philwilder5177
    @philwilder5177 9 месяцев назад +6

    Now finally a DK rework plsssss...

    • @moose9626
      @moose9626 9 месяцев назад

      Bdk is going to be meta too btw lol, like method players have been doing a lot of ptr and doing tons of healing and dps

    • @philwilder5177
      @philwilder5177 9 месяцев назад

      @@moose9626 blood is fine, but frost feels strange and unholy has to many buttons :/

    • @moose9626
      @moose9626 9 месяцев назад

      @@philwilder5177 Frost kinda feels strange with no gear, but i usually gear up as a tank to get into keys quicker. But for frost if you're dpsing 3+ targets spam Glacial Advance, if its 1-2 targets use DND + Obliterate so it hits more than one target. Use Frost strikes to keep up your buff (unleashed frenzy). As for UHDK its really difficult, situational at times too. the opener is always the same but im assuming itll be weaker next tier. but UHDK still benefits from snap shotting quick makes them very broken lol.

  • @shafterbarkley7356
    @shafterbarkley7356 9 месяцев назад

    Kind of weird to bring back a parry style tank. With the bdk parry thing happening in SL.

  • @L0rks
    @L0rks 9 месяцев назад +1

    It is huge, enormous and nuts!
    Thank you for drawing the sigils of the changes in the infospace :)

    • @MarcelianOnline
      @MarcelianOnline  9 месяцев назад +1

      Glad you like it Lorks, should pick it up in 10.2, it's good for you!

    • @L0rks
      @L0rks 9 месяцев назад

      Thank you for kind words :)@@MarcelianOnline

  • @TheFamilyLedger
    @TheFamilyLedger 8 месяцев назад

    Maybe I'm just too casual a player, but I really enjoyed the pre-10.2 Fodder to the Flames.

  • @Khylaos42
    @Khylaos42 9 месяцев назад

    Sigil of chains is back baby, WOOH!!!!!!!!!!

  • @Xaxationlorex
    @Xaxationlorex 9 месяцев назад

    So how many reworks and changes do the other tanks get before blood gets something other then an "aura" buff.

  • @kail_6019
    @kail_6019 9 месяцев назад +2

    I'm going back to Havoc for this season and it's nice that the tank has also changed

  • @syxqid3818
    @syxqid3818 9 месяцев назад +2

    Everytime i see this vids i wanna play my tanks. And everytime i go into a grp i have dps who pulls everything and the fun is gone :(

  • @PhrozenOrb
    @PhrozenOrb 9 месяцев назад +1

    I'm just starting out again and subscribed to WoW after a year break. Is Havoc better or is Vengence the new thing??

    • @Rylatar
      @Rylatar 9 месяцев назад

      Well, Vengeance is a tank and Havoc is DPS so that depends on role you want to perform.

  • @JojoPrEvoker
    @JojoPrEvoker 9 месяцев назад

    Favorite tank

  • @mattcyr2109
    @mattcyr2109 5 месяцев назад

    Did they re-re-work Havoc because these talents are not in the same place or the same numbers as they are now.....

  • @lenox5018
    @lenox5018 9 месяцев назад

    i want better transmogs for DHs

  • @UNNeero
    @UNNeero 9 месяцев назад

    OMG! your accent freaks me out every time I watch it. Sorry, I couldn't resist

  • @rachaelbalasingham88
    @rachaelbalasingham88 9 месяцев назад

    When can we expect the next Tank Tier list?

  • @gureidens61
    @gureidens61 8 месяцев назад

    Great blizz, now u forcing us to use disgusting sigils as havoc...
    Im not playing DH this season.

  • @hybredmoon
    @hybredmoon 9 месяцев назад +5

    If DH becomes a meta tank again im dropping healing forever. Hate trying to heal these things.

    • @matthewshull9345
      @matthewshull9345 9 месяцев назад

      The new DH has so much parry it be it shouldn't be as spiky

    • @LATHSPELL70
      @LATHSPELL70 9 месяцев назад

      The better the tank, the less you heal him. You’re just playing with bad tanks.

    • @Alesz15
      @Alesz15 9 месяцев назад

      For sure, even applies to brewmaster monk.
      A good tank is self sufficcient in 95% of scenarios, I started realizing most pug tanks are actually quite bad around 22s some months ago, when the key was being depleted with 0-2 deaths outside of bosses (small pulls, bad routes) and them getting one shotted out of nowhere just by entering a pull.
      I have my tank trying Prot Warrior for example and taking literally no damage with 400 ilvl in a 20 (maybe with exception of magical) for whole keys while most pug warriors takes moderate damage with 441 ilvl

    • @samp3568
      @samp3568 8 месяцев назад

      It looks more and more like Vengence/Ret pally/ Augment evoker and Rouge ±1

    • @samp3568
      @samp3568 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@Alesz15I've always said if you play your class well; then you can be quite undergeared and still do well

  • @maggru91
    @maggru91 9 месяцев назад +1

    Live by the glaive as it currently is sucks.
    It's 0,4% hp/s if you manage to parry perfectly every 5 seconds, which you wont be doing.
    It's beyond useless.

  • @Moonwired
    @Moonwired 9 месяцев назад

    I find this an incredibly bad design choice, locking in tank survivability around w/e setbonus the current tier has. They’re treating it like a mandatory talent pick. And it forces you into a complete different playstyle each season. I don’t personally mind that, i love playing all kinds of different builds, but I can imagine how a lot of people finally got use to fiery brand spreading and its suddenly obsolete. I feel like there should be an option to play whatever tank style u’d want. I do like the changes they’re making, i’m already having a lot of fun with DH.

  • @sydju
    @sydju 9 месяцев назад +1

    I want to start tanking 10.2, I'm torn between DK, Druid and DH. Any advice from an experienced tank would be more than welcome! 😊

    • @MarcelianOnline
      @MarcelianOnline  9 месяцев назад +1

      Pick the one you think is cooler and more fun, personally that would be DH with the sigil playstyle, very fun!

    • @Jdtv689
      @Jdtv689 9 месяцев назад +2

      DH tank plays like dps, bear would be most versatile one while DK would probably be the coolest and most punishing one if you mess rotation up:) I started to tank on DK and it was awesome expieroence. It’s fun tank, feels a bit slow but it still most mobile it even been prolly. And you have CR. DH is probably not the best pug tank as you can help anyone really, you have great aoe stops and silence. Anyways would suggest to Judy’s mom hi k which you like the most from esthetic and fantasy point of view - on the level you will be tanking it will be more important that you love your chat and enjoy it a lot rather than focus on some min max details.

    • @face0fmars
      @face0fmars 9 месяцев назад +2

      I would pick Druid cuz it's casual friendly. Very easy to play. 2nd choice is DH. Don't recommend DK cuz it's hard with rotation and punishing if you mess up.

    • @user-dl1gy9jp9n
      @user-dl1gy9jp9n 9 месяцев назад

      This is my experience. DH fun dps style tank, Druid versatile, very good toolkit with alot to offer, DK simple rotation and you feel unkillable but with a bit less dps. All 3 are fun with a unique flavor of play style. Find the one that works for you. After all it's a game....have some fun and get lost for a bit in the gameplay! Enjoy!

    • @sydju
      @sydju 9 месяцев назад

      Thank you for all the lightning fast and amazing replies!!!
      I think I will go for druid. I was a bit hesitant as people say it will be trash with the new tier set but I do like the idea of shapeshifting and endless options due to its variety in specs/roles.
      Thank you all again!

  • @nonye0
    @nonye0 9 месяцев назад

    sems like almost every rework of every class have some sort of big improvement but for warlock lmao that rework was just pet changes. clap.

  • @themobster7284
    @themobster7284 9 месяцев назад

    Wtf... DH is one of the new classes, they dont need rework as hard as other classes... And mostly the DK... The DK do need rework firstly Frost, as it is just bad in pvp, and the class as overall feels bad in pvp and weak... Last time DK did felt invincible and really strong was WOD, in Legion we did lose the way of healing..

  • @user-dr1cf9ry9l
    @user-dr1cf9ry9l 9 месяцев назад +1

    the stolen warlock spec...

    • @ugladden
      @ugladden 9 месяцев назад

      Metamorphosis was a cool warlock spell back in the day.

  • @Fucking_Legend
    @Fucking_Legend 9 месяцев назад

    Retail is in such a mess that blizzard has no idea how to fix it

  • @AshWickramasinghe
    @AshWickramasinghe 8 месяцев назад

    I miss playing wow. I think the biggest problem WoW faces is that, typical wow user, has grown older and can’t commit so many hours for WoW. But wow as is requires you to commit a number of hours per week close to a part time job. On top of it it doesn’t pay you rather you gotta pay to play WoW. The new generation of gamers, aren’t tinkers and problem solvers. They prefer plain straight games with not much of thinking, planning and calculating is required, like fortnight. Wow’s problem is, it demands too much time to be able to play for older players and it’s way too complex for the newer generation.

  • @bartnukem
    @bartnukem 9 месяцев назад

    Not going to lie, lots of sigil clicking.....click..click...click doesnt sound fun to me :(

    • @riyeltv
      @riyeltv 8 месяцев назад

      Just use a mouseover for all of the sigils and you are goos