The Amazing 10.2 Havoc DH Rework

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  • Опубликовано: 9 июл 2024
  • Welcome back to MarcelianOnline, your one-stop channel for all things World of Warcraft! Today, we're diving deep into the 10.2 Havoc DH Rework. This rework has shaken up the spec's gameplay and we're here to break it down for you.
    From all the, now baseline abilities to all the talent changes, we've got it all covered. Whether you're a seasoned DH player or just considering to main one, this video is a must-watch! We'll guide you through the changes, what they mean for your gameplay, and how to get ready for 10.2 havoc demon hunter.
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    Timestamps
    00:00 What to expect?
    00:25 Baseline stuff
    02:37 New talents
    08:09 Reworked talents
    14:03 Hope!
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  • @MarcelianOnline
    @MarcelianOnline  9 месяцев назад

    JOIN THE FAM! 💥 www.patreon.com/marcelianonline
    THIS IS NUTS! 10.2 Sub Rogue Rework👀ruclips.net/video/fSnSokv82kw/видео.html
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  • @Wolfianzero
    @Wolfianzero 9 месяцев назад +8

    Just want to havoc without worrying about killing myself to keep up momentum

  • @olilondon8823
    @olilondon8823 9 месяцев назад +4

    Hahaha, I love the side comment for Jedith. You can't deny it!

    • @MarcelianOnline
      @MarcelianOnline  9 месяцев назад +2

      Shameful to admit, but had to be done :))

  • @L0rks
    @L0rks 9 месяцев назад

    Thank you :)
    Stay safe from all the havoc!

  • @devonboes2376
    @devonboes2376 9 месяцев назад +1

    I read that as check out Jedith's page after hours and thought ohh? Spicy

  • @detr0w472
    @detr0w472 8 месяцев назад

    hey i was wondering how did you make your interface looks like that pls ?

  • @STARSHIPTROOP
    @STARSHIPTROOP 9 месяцев назад +4

    currently damage is less now than our current builds, although still waiting on power of 2 unknown skills.

  • @CoffeeTheFreshmaker
    @CoffeeTheFreshmaker 9 месяцев назад

    upkeep mechanics like breath can be fun, but they gotta be more in line with how shadowpriest was in BoD in BFA. Getting back into it fast being more important than staying in for a long time. Like, sure staying in for a long time was good and all, but it was much less punishing when losing it was like MB -> MB and go again.

  • @wesleyvl8572
    @wesleyvl8572 9 месяцев назад +1

    Cant wait for rogue

  • @scoobersname778
    @scoobersname778 9 месяцев назад +5

    in pvp the new spectral sight puts u in combat , good vs rouges^^

    • @Kanoog
      @Kanoog 9 месяцев назад

      OHH I didn't even think of that, really welcome change I'd say.

  • @sawfreak6668
    @sawfreak6668 9 месяцев назад +1

    get the tank specc also a rework?

  • @geoffpowell3338
    @geoffpowell3338 9 месяцев назад +1

    If bursting for havoc is an issue why don't they bring back chaos theory (made your attack have shadow damage added to them). And bring back nemesis ( 20% increased DMG to humanoid/beast/demon. Whatever what cast upon gets buff towards). Put these into one ability together and have it a 2 min cd. Having these in legion I found helped for ST burst . At least I enjoyed having a button or two extra to press for a burst window. Or combine them into the metamorphosis ability so when ita hard cast instead of procd you get the extra burst.

  • @card969
    @card969 9 месяцев назад +26

    god i hope momentum build wont be the thing anymore

    • @MarcelianOnline
      @MarcelianOnline  9 месяцев назад +3

      I hope everyone can enjoy DH without these issues!

    • @dualSpec1
      @dualSpec1 9 месяцев назад +1

      Bring back the dh from bfa everyone was playing dh it was fun easy to manage.

    • @hydrabenjamin8960
      @hydrabenjamin8960 9 месяцев назад +1

      I really enjoy it but the problem is these seasons dungeons are so punishing if you accidentaly dash wrong :(@@MarcelianOnline

    • @neziaojuara1768
      @neziaojuara1768 9 месяцев назад

      With them buffing fel rush this much you'll be using fel rushes even if you don't pic its talents want it or not.

  • @derdruckerflusterer4300
    @derdruckerflusterer4300 9 месяцев назад

    did theya finally get rid of the bouncy ball playstyle?

  • @shanxale
    @shanxale 9 месяцев назад

    Nice but if u take a Fire inside with inertia and maybe you Fish reset proc on immo aura u Will have 3 unbound in a row and became likes momentum😂

  • @sparkz2718
    @sparkz2718 8 месяцев назад

    They shoulda just gave us that venthyr sinwrath dot we had in shadowlands instead of the hunt. Seems like they improved our aoe but didn’t address our st. Venthyr dot woulda solved that issue

  • @Khylaos42
    @Khylaos42 9 месяцев назад

    I also meant gonna not a lizard LAWL

  • @HelixTribuner
    @HelixTribuner 9 месяцев назад

    When is 10.2 coming

  • @arashnozari4042
    @arashnozari4042 9 месяцев назад +1

    i have one question
    what if a rog is infront of you and your full health
    he goes vanish then you use your spectral sight to find him and your spell summons a deamon and that demon dies in the fight and you used your big healing with full health to find the rog and then rog uses his second vanish and bang you and your healing spells is in a cooldown
    isnt that a bad rework for dh in your opinion?

    • @Kanoog
      @Kanoog 9 месяцев назад

      This means you can't use it to find the Rogue anymore at the start of the match, so yes it's shitty.

  • @nikg3516
    @nikg3516 9 месяцев назад

    Playerbase: "We don't want to use our gap closers to deal damage, please get rid of momentum"
    Blizzard: "We have given you a slightly less annoying Momentum alternative"
    .........

    • @kamux6972
      @kamux6972 9 месяцев назад

      momentum is actually nice, we dont want to stay still and smash 2 buttons

    • @T0ra99
      @T0ra99 3 месяца назад

      ​@@kamux6972no, a movement based buff for a tab targeting game just makes 0 sense.

  • @WRXnumberSeven
    @WRXnumberSeven 9 месяцев назад

    0:12 where is the peach?! wasted opportunity there sir

  • @That_kind_of_orc
    @That_kind_of_orc 9 месяцев назад +1

    Now you see DH, mage and rogue everywhere and honorable mention druids have taken over any place you hang out

    • @MarcelianOnline
      @MarcelianOnline  9 месяцев назад +2

      AS we were used to I guess :))

    • @Kanoog
      @Kanoog 9 месяцев назад

      So no change? Okay, no big deal.

  • @Khylaos42
    @Khylaos42 9 месяцев назад

    Havoc dh is 100% designed goanna be 1 of my top alts

  • @joshshepherd5734
    @joshshepherd5734 9 месяцев назад +4

    The tree is still REALLY clunky and everything is so undertuned its really hard to test. Only a non havoc main would say all these changes are good lol because they really didn't address very many issues, other classes get a rework and come out awesome and we will still be at the bottom, especially with this tier set

    • @MarcelianOnline
      @MarcelianOnline  9 месяцев назад +2

      All good friend, i understand that each PTR cycle people forget entirely how it works and what the final product ends up being. But that's fine, that's why we make videos :P

    • @joshshepherd5734
      @joshshepherd5734 9 месяцев назад

      @MarcelianOnline don't get me wrong, I want this class to be awesome and fun, I've been playing havoc since BFA and I really enjoy many things, but the talent trees have been rough. Let's just hope it gets better!

  • @Jdtv689
    @Jdtv689 9 месяцев назад

    Not sure about this rework just yet. Even after second part of changes - it doesnt seem main issues (m+ perspective) are addressed in any way. Single target damage is still a joke. Also there is still no real reason to invite DH into a group - it falls into +1 category, once you get all utility from hybrids, CR, BL and most important buffs - then you usually have spot for 1 more DPS which can be havoc. That remains unchanged - it seems to play better after rework, got some QoL things. Nothing major to be fair, for now seem we would just play more passive aoe build with stacked mastery haste most likely. Doesnt seem like there is any more way to help your group - now initial build donts include even consume magic so not even that. Same for vengence - you cant do anything to help anyone as tank - just watch your teamates die and cant do anything to help. Perhaps darkness could be on players not on the ground - it would be at least that and could be great to help.

  • @colocode6979
    @colocode6979 9 месяцев назад

    fury starved on PTR, no fury no damage

  • @factsremainfactual6681
    @factsremainfactual6681 9 месяцев назад +2

    Tbh, DH rework feels bad and they dont need the ROGUE dev working on it, they need dedicated devs for each class to work on their respective specs and balancing. So far, DH was bad, is bad, and looks like it'll continue to be bad since they dont have any real devs for just DH.

    • @sodawow1602
      @sodawow1602 9 месяцев назад

      Wrong

    • @Kanoog
      @Kanoog 9 месяцев назад

      @@sodawow1602 I Agree with you, that statement is wrong, dude is just mad his class didn't get worked on. Every class needs attentnion, so no matter what class is worked on people will say the same shit.

  • @keegan6356
    @keegan6356 9 месяцев назад +7

    This class will not be fun to play until they just get rid of momentum completely.

    • @Kanoog
      @Kanoog 9 месяцев назад

      Momentum is stupid, it makes you use your gap closers to increase damage? It makes it a clunky mechanic...... I never liked it either. I have to burst my target so I'll do a random Fel Rush, oh wait he Blinked, now since I used my Fel Rush to gain momentum I can't gap close...but wait I shouldn't have used Fel Rush, okay but now my Damage is lowered so I'm being punished for that too.

  • @ourcommonancestry6025
    @ourcommonancestry6025 9 месяцев назад

    As long as they stay out of PVP and stop running all over the arena, getting out of LOS, and causing another team loss.

    • @Kanoog
      @Kanoog 9 месяцев назад

      This doesn't make sense..."stay out of PVP" this is a rework not a class removal. They are still going to be mobile if that is what you meant, so again it doesn't make sense.

    • @ourcommonancestry6025
      @ourcommonancestry6025 9 месяцев назад

      @@Kanoog Let me clarify... Try healing a DH and Mistweaver as they chase whatever around and around a pillar all arena long, then after you simply stop asking them to peel or using every cd you got to keep near them, they just go to the other side of the map for no real reason... it is utterly insane trying to heal a DH as they move so much in... PVP... I dunno pve, i'd imagine they leap in to a fight and stand there until a mechanic makes them move 8 feet.

  • @richard_n
    @richard_n 9 месяцев назад

    The thing I really hate about Havoc is that it's TOO mobile. It's so easy to end up out of position. I'd love the spec if your Fel Rush just went to the target and stopped or if you don't have a target, then it goes the max distance. If you wanted to AoE, you would have to target the enemy in the back, which makes the ability more about skill while giving you better control over where you end up.

    • @face0fmars
      @face0fmars 9 месяцев назад

      Get good

    • @wilmadongfit7586
      @wilmadongfit7586 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@face0fmarsdamn bro you're cool. Save some pu$$y for the rest of us

  • @Khylaos42
    @Khylaos42 9 месяцев назад

    *definitely 😂, damn auto correct

  • @danmarshall4812
    @danmarshall4812 3 месяца назад +1

    they just need to completely remove the momentum playstyle

  • @hybredmoon
    @hybredmoon 9 месяцев назад +9

    Momentum is being REWORKED? So you mean it's not GONE? Well then, havoc is still trash then. As a melee class any mechanic (encounter, environment, class, or otherwise) that requires you to move away from the thing you are hitting is bad. GG no RE. The fact that Havoc will always be high-effort low-reward (and not to mention the gratuitous butt pulling) when having to play around momentum means they will never have a place in my statics.

    • @jasonalberti1976
      @jasonalberti1976 9 месяцев назад

      I wholeheartedly agree.

    • @netherialdreyrimani
      @netherialdreyrimani 9 месяцев назад +2

      Not enough of a dps loss to justify using it, so i just play like i still have sinful brand

    • @face0fmars
      @face0fmars 9 месяцев назад

      Lol cry more. You are just BAD.

    • @Wellshem
      @Wellshem 9 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@netherialdreyrimanifor real, I'll trade 6% damage for simplicity, uptime and mobility during mechanics

    • @Kanoog
      @Kanoog 9 месяцев назад +2

      I hate Momentum, you have to use a GAP closer when you are already on the target to deal more damage and when you need a GAP closer everything is now on cool down because you needed to get Momentum to mid max damage.

  • @C.Krisztián
    @C.Krisztián 9 месяцев назад +1

    atm there nothing any big rework , only some spell position changes, thats all

    • @MarcelianOnline
      @MarcelianOnline  9 месяцев назад +4

      You probably haven't watched the video, it's fine if you watch it again :P

    • @Kanoog
      @Kanoog 9 месяцев назад

      @@MarcelianOnline Ofc not, people just like to be negative.

  • @mirzahasanbegovic1273
    @mirzahasanbegovic1273 9 месяцев назад +2

    Lol dh rework is bad.some skills on wrong spot and DPS undertoned.over all mehh rework

  • @mehrshadkhodadadi4925
    @mehrshadkhodadadi4925 9 месяцев назад

    Remove momentum ffs

  • @Harshgoss
    @Harshgoss 9 месяцев назад

    I hate momentum build😮

  • @AR-jf1fv
    @AR-jf1fv 9 месяцев назад +2

    It is unfortunately not amazing

  • @1Bigsxxy
    @1Bigsxxy 9 месяцев назад

    Basically there just changing it a little bit for a improved fel rush. So pretty much havoc is all the same.

    • @Kanoog
      @Kanoog 9 месяцев назад

      Did you not watch this video or any other video on the DH rework? I'm not even going to explain all of the changes because there are so many videos on why this is awesome.

  • @efyuar
    @efyuar 9 месяцев назад

    just remove momentum, i dont even play dh but god damn i hate when raid/party member felrushes into oblivion and complain for the next minute

  • @skygunji7462
    @skygunji7462 9 месяцев назад +1

    First!

  • @RWPowe
    @RWPowe 9 месяцев назад +1

    firstttttttttt

    • @MarcelianOnline
      @MarcelianOnline  9 месяцев назад +1

      So close dude, like so close, enjoy the video still

  • @1Bigsxxy
    @1Bigsxxy 9 месяцев назад +1

    The need to rework the rework. The dh style is exactly the same. Momentum build no change.

    • @Kanoog
      @Kanoog 9 месяцев назад

      You mean Momentum is still there, but DH got some massive changes if you paid attnetion in class.