So what do you guys think the demon hunters are up to after Legion's defeat? Will they die out eventually, go into obscurity or will they return at some point as an order?
They are going to get a new Spec when Maiev train them to be Wardens. a New Spec without metamorphosis but has "Avatar of Veangeance" from W3, and that specializes in crowd control.
Considering the nature of the Demon Hunters and their similarities to the Death Knights it is very likely they will simply choose a new enemy. They are hunters by nature and they need prey(Oddly enough they are similar in that manner to Maiev.) so the likely choice for them would simply be to pick an enemy that threatens the peace they have obtained. The Death Knights and even Sylvanus had their own thoughts and doubts after the Icecrown Citadel raid about the nature of their existence and their futures. But it will likely be some time before we get any new big lore moments for them since the Legion was soundly defeated, leaving their greatest enemy and purpose for still living a shadow of its former self. As for new Demon Hunters? You likely hit it on the head, there is little reason for recruiting new ones. There is a possibility that victims of Demonic possession could be converted into hunters but that is purely a speculation and if true would be few and far between. In the end they will likely die out as you have stated.
i don't think the hunter demon is going to disappear because part of them are night elfs that live the swords (only if someone doesn't kill them) and if they absorb a lot of demonic energy they can't enter even if they are killed Ps don't speak good english don't mind
They simply protect azeroth from imminent threats and ally within their factions. Just like death knights or any other class. They follow orders and defend Azeroth. Just like a warrior or a mage or a priest.
Demon Hunters have it worse because they're like a Lantern: keep fueling the fire or burn out, but it sucks when Demons are scattered and are basically situational when compared to DKs, who can kill any race to satisfy themselves.
I personally find it quite silly that "higher" classes (DK, DHs) would care at all about faction wars. It seems to be like their story has been much more about being world protectors than serving any leader outside of their order. These two for me always felt quite detached from the whole alliance vs horde thingy. I always imagined that both Horde and alliance DKs/DHs would immediately nope out of the faction war and go after global threats (e.g. G'huun, Azshara, N'zoth). Even if the BfA war wasn't stupid (hint, it is imo), i think the best approach is Khadgar's. I can't fight the people that I fought the Legion side by side with.
Demon Hunters sacrificed everything to save their world, but Death Knights, at least the Wrath era ones, were just victims of circumstance. Sure, a lot of the DK's used to be paladins that will still want to fulfill their oaths however they can, but many were also just powerful warriors. I figured the faction wars were just a light masquerade to give the Death Knight's desire to inflict pain a purpose, but I agree that the Demon Hunters probably wouldn't care all that much for the war
Well, I get Night Elf. A large chunk of there race was just wiped out, and one of there specs is called vengeance. The Blood elf ones? Yeah I'll give you that. A pontless war where the first thing that happens is you incenrate my best friends family. """"for the horde.""""
Alexandros Papadopoulos well there is good reason for them to stay with their factions. First, the death knights. They understand the factions are nothing without them, and that the world would be doomed if they didn’t bolster both factions as they did. Besides alone they really can’t do everything and similarly to a DK tank they need a healer and a group to tackle high end content, the same applies to death knights and big baddies. Second is the demon hunters. They have the same reasoning as to why. Except more so. They KNEW they needed to bolster factions. There was no denying it. They needed the factions to be able to stop the legion invasion. They simply could not do it alone and also there’s no point in not being apart of either of the factions as generally most people who don’t commit to one side or the other are considered outlying enemies and therefor would be absolutely no use for any big baddies cause they can’t do it alone and if they are alone they can’t just be like “oh hey wanna work together now guys?” That would just be lazy story writing to fix a mistake. There are more reasons as well as to why they would pick a faction.
Some way or another there will always be demons, even if not protrayed as they are now. Like the Death knights they find their place and keep moving. They need to exist in case these events happen again.
True. Shadowlands certainly shows that DKs (or at least their lore) are relevant again. And who knows what "death" is for demons, even if they can not necessarily be reincarnated to come back now. And there must be worlds of demons out there, led by former powerful lieutenants.
DK's have the advantage of not being misunderstood heroes but actual antiheroes. They wanted the Lich King dead for their own benefit, not to help save the world.
@@Warlekk Haha imagine some illidari standing in the starting Zones for night/bloodelves handing out flyers wich have sth like this printed on them "You wanna get immortality? Then do this little ritual thing and become a cool Demon Hunter!" and then in small letters explaining the risk of dying and the need of killing demons and eat them after ritual lol
The fact that Sargeras was EVEN defeated in what I'm assuming was him at mostly his full power what with that HUGE world destroying sword of his by a bunch of mortals even with the aid of overpowered characters and gods kinda makes any other demon that tries to claim that they are in charge of a demonic Legion renewed look like an absolute chump in comparison. How can you possibly top that? Well I'm sure Blizzard will find some contrivance to make such a plot "work" even if it feels lackluster. With the organization of the old legion gone it makes any future demonic incursions most likely small, inconsequential, poorly organized, a localized threat and probably only lead by what's the equivalent of a small fry would be warlord amongst the demons and laughable inept. (compared to what players have faced before) If the biggest bad of the demonic machinations can be beaten by mortals and local gods then I do see how a much, much less powerful demon even from the higher orders of demon could pose even a fraction of the threat that the old legion under Sargeras presumably had.
My two demon hunters are "retired" so to speak. I still play them but they are mogged as to not look like typical demon hunters. Some day they will need to put the "uniform" back on. :)
Interviewer: so it says here on your skills that you can... Dh: crush a felguards head between my thighs, yes... you want a demonstration? Interviewer: uhh... no... just wondering... how would that skill be useful to a bakery like ours... Dh: ... do you think your head is tougher than a felguard's. Interviewer: ... Dh: ... Interviewer: I'll see you on monday.
“so, how do you feel?” “Well sometimes I just...I don’t know, I feel this inner rage, it’s like I’m possessed” *slowly drops pen and notebook and takes out warglaives*
Well in the short narrated stories about turalyon + aleria they said demons feared the void more than any other things. The void is why sargeras formed the legion in the 1st place. I'd like to see a thing like the felfire quest but for demon hunters where some dhs want to calm the eff down but can't and wanna still fight for their faction so they find a way to imbue themselves with the light like what that one naruu nearly did to Illidan. Their tats would be glowing with the light and their wings might turn feathery
It would have been really cool if we’d gotten a story about how the Warlocks of the Black Harvest and Illidari Demon Hunters in a low-intensity conflict with each other over what’s left of the Legion. With the Illidari hunting down and killing the remnants and the Black Harvest scooping up and taking control of the remnants.
What about a New Class named only *Ranger* (KEEP IT UP WITH ME HERE), but that has Specs that define it better? 1º Spec: "Dark" (then, "Dark Ranger", kind of a obvious pick). 2º Spec: "Moon" (Tyrande's new style here. kind of Farfetched, but think of a Ranger that could Heal, and mount a white tiger). 3º spec: "Warden" (Maiev is a type of high level guardian. ). All those Characters are "Elven Rangers" or at least Ranger-ish classes that could fit into a bigger RANGER Class.
Oh shit i like this. It is kinda like my idea of a Dragonborn class which each spec taking after a different dragonflight (azure, black, bronze, green ect)
When a humble bard Graced a ride along With Illidan Stormrage Along came this song When the Betrayer fought A silver tongued devil His army of demons At his hooves did they revel They came after me With masterful deceit Broke down my lute And they kicked in my teeth While the devil's horns Minced our tender meat And so cried the Demon Hunter He can't be bleat Toss a coin to your Hunter Oh, valley of plenty Oh, valley of plenty, oh Toss a coin to your Hunter Oh, valley of plenty At the edge of the world Fight the mighty horde That bashes and breaks you And bring you the morn, oh He thrust every demon Far back in the Nether High up on Argus From whence they came He wiped out your pest Got kicked in his chest He's a friend of humanity So give him the rest That's my epic tale: Our champion prevailed Defeated the villain Now pour him some ale Toss a coin to your Demon Hunter O Valley of Plenty O Valley of Plenty, oh Toss a coin to your Hunter A friend of humanity Toss a coin to your Demon Hunter O Valley of Plenty O Valley of Plenty, oh Toss a coin to your Hunter A friend of humanity Toss a coin to your Demon Hunter O Valley of Plenty O Valley of Plenty, a-oh Toss a coin to your Hunter A friend of humanity
I think that the Burning Legion wouldn't work without a really powerful, almost godlike leader. The whole system of the Burning Legion works like a pyramid held together by the promise of power. So, if there isn't a really strong entity at the top that can make some demons strong enough to grant others power themselves, the whole system wouldn't work.
Well, thats interesting, i am thinking that in the future, we Can see them more often, fighting minions od the void. Or maybe blizzard will come with a other big Bad, so we Can re-subscribe or just sa races od Azeroth will have another work, and no rest. :D (Btw, which slavic country is that word 'pozdrav' ? :D )
A better question is why do advocates for warriors act so proud when spouting the virtues of magicless awsome warriors when said fighters are often sporting *enchantmented weapons and armor* or magic powered gear that keeps them from getting overshot by OP spells and keeps them relevant or competitive with more magically inclined classes? Think about it, the warriors (any worth a darn that is) all use SOME kind of magic weapon, swords, hammers, axes and etc.
I see them exactly like you said, like the Witchers. They're around now to just hunt down the last of the evil demons. I think an easy way of thinking it is, do we get rid of guards because there haven't been bandit attacks in a year? No, we'd still protect that road with them. Also huge lore implication from the main lore guy (dont know his name) said, "when the red star goes out (sargeras prison) then we are REALLY in trouble!".
I rp a demon hunter and se is with the alliance. she sacrificed everything to save their world from the fel fire, but she then saw it was the horde that eventually burned the nightelf home to crisps. so to me it makes sense that she would hate the horde and fight them.
I agree with Warcraft Witchers, at least a bunch of them. Most likely a third of them went out into the void on the Fel Hammer to hunt demons still most likely following Kayn Sunfury, another third following the witcher route being inspired by Altruis, and the last third rejoins their people and from there who knows some might fully retire, some might see about trying to return to what they did before they took up the hunt, or maybe some will keep fighting for their people even if it means a faction war like the Death Knights. Remember in Cata there was 2 named ones who you partner with in Western Plaguelands against both a Scourge remnant, as well enemy faction. As you put it they are physically enhanced so think Captain America after the first Avengers movie.
Demon hunters don't go to the shadowlands if they die. We saw that multiple times in the game. (Like in their starting zone or orderhall) so that cold be interesting.
When you do the shadowlands intro, you can see some Demon hunter said "I HAVE SACRIFICE ALL !" or anything else, in the spirit wave. That not ALL demon hunter who go on the neither, but only the "Strongest" or the "more demonic".
Can you answer this lore question i’m always thinking about it When Arthas Got the full power of the Lich King ( Nerzul ) why didn’t he controlly sylvanas Windrunner again?
because he couldn't after she regained her freedom. he would have to kill her again, to force her soul into serving him again. kind of like undead death knights, they died, were risen by arthas, then got thier freedom, then were killed again and made arthas' minions again. and then they break free again and become knights of the ebon blade.
Maybe they can be effective against the threats that we will fight in the shadowlands. Great video as always. Just a question do you watch pyromancer and his theories about the warcraft universe.
If the Shadowlands has patches, I hope one includes the Embers of the Legion striking out, but also fleeing from the Bright Crusade of Alternate Draenor.
Remember Harbringer: Illidan? The ultimate goal of becoming a demon hunter is to protect Azeroth without losing themselves to the demonic power, so they would still fight anything, just not as good as fighting demons. Even against non-demons, DHs' power level are still very high, which is probably why people were so scared of them in the first place. But yeah, they are just like death knights, their ultimate goal is still to fight for Azeroth, so I think they will never stop fighting, since Blizzard will always create new threat to Azeroth XD
In my personal canon, since the player becomes the leader of the Illidari in the class campaign, the Illidari are now an army of their own like a sort of independent black ops group, don’t worry we’ll be sending scouts into the shadowlands to find Sylvanas and get revenge for teldrassil for the night elves in our group
What if, given recent Shadowlands lore reveals, the Burning Legion Dreadlords wanted Sargeras out of the way so Fel will be easily defeated when Death makes its big moves against all the other cosmic forces?
Demon Hunters will park their spaceship next to Archerus, hang out with the death knight and listen to My Chemical Romance while they act edgy and roll their eyes at the classes that get all of the new lore love.
Isn't Mal Ganis still alive? Great future dungeon boss btw and there was a little demon hunter and warlock team up in zuldazar. It's a world quest I think.
Dreadlords. The Nathrazeem, are essentially the ones whom control the demons (according atleast to whatever revised lore to pick). Looking at the book for Illidan itself, it always implied that the Nathrazeem were like accomplices, wherein Illidan saw them as a separate entity from Sargeras & his Legion. Whilst Sargeras would be jailed, the dreadlords basically still went on successfully, albeit with their home being destroyed like draenor became Outlands (nerhzul), after their first invasion he made a portal that after exiting would've unleashed a nuke unto Nathrazar. And if Sire Denathrius is representative of the power just one of them can have as a sort of "commander", it'd be fair to assume there's those with a greater amount. ..does it mean it all will make sense? I have no clue. Because, if according to shadowlands the jailor was an automaton.. Lol, well doesn't that make Denathrius along with the primus & the rest.. The same exact thing?... Imbued with different powers and that's about it. Who knows what they make up for it, still it feels better to have magic wand and erase SL entirely from memory imo.
Well they can work that the locate Walmart, Burger King, McDonald's, or something. All that free time, they can apply for either a college, trade school or university, or take the time for self taught skills.
By the way, the short phrase of you on death knights made me ask myself a question: Were death knights actually dead before they were created? I think I never read or heard anything about that ingame. I mean, Arthas wasn't technically dead. He has never been killed. He just took Frostmourne and Frostmourne took his soul, but not his life. I think, his body got twisted without a soul, but it was never mentioned that he is an actual undead, right?
Our generation of dks were dead but earlier generation turned into dks when they were alive Arthas/baron through rune blades the one like terron through warlock fuckery
Doron. I was just thinking about when you died in Wow the player can release their spirit and reclaim their body. Is there any lore reason for this? It was made to be a game mechanic, but perhaps it can be explained with some lore? Maybe it can't at all be explained?
Srab23 Nah. Pretty much just game mechanic. Demon Hunters reviving that way makes a little more sense since instead of dying they go to the Twisted Nether and can find their way back.
I feel like for Night Elf demon hunters they could of participated in the fourth war due to the burning of teldrassil. The Horde succeeded in something the demons didn’t, the horde killed a large number of Night Elves and destroyed their homeland. For my demon hunter I’m a big lore nerd so I justified my night elf demon hunter fighting the horde because he didn’t see a difference between them and the legion. The Horde is guilty of destroying ancient night elf lands and genocide.
Idk if I would feel bad for my people after years of being scorned, hunted down, and imprisoned just to be let out for convenience and still be looked down on by them lol.
@@justin1594 I think part of that sense of sacrifice for demon hunters is that they know they will be ostracized by their kin for this chosen path, but that's the point. They do their duty not for praise nor for acceptance but to protect those they loved or homes even if they will never be welcomed back. It's not about glory, it's not about vain pride, it's not about some form of material or monetary compensation, it's about a sense of duty inspite of hardships. this is what helps to keep some DKs to keep going even in their darkest of times, they ask for nothing in return because that's not what many of them signed on for.
I role play a dh and get paid to either hunt down and kill demons that still exist causing problems, or ones that got away from warlocks or specific ones that warlocks want bound to them.
In my headcanon, my Orc Warlock stays behind on Argus after Sargeras' defeat to attempt to take over the Burning Legion. The Demon Hunters (who didn't go back to Azeroth) are not happy about this and try to take him down, but he constantly positions himself in such a way that he is their only option against OTHER factions trying to usurp power within the Legion. And so he and the Demon Hunters constantly have to work together even as they hold blades to each others' throats.
Well, there are warlords of Legion that fight one another to become its de facto leader, infighting was something that was bound to happen, just like when Rome fell, we ill still need them just in case of something Balnazar happens, Paladins need their sleep,
Both my DK and DH looking at the faction conflict like “Are we gonna tell them we’re not interested in their pissing match?” “Nah let them tire themselves out…”
I know it's been explained, but DKs became available to nearly every race including some of the newest ones. DHs, however, are stuck as blood elf or night elf. At least extend DH possibility to the other elven races!
They search for the one slayer of demons more powerful and pissed than anything in existence so that they may finally put a true to the demons and the fallen titan.
It could be interesting to see if Demon Hunters can revert into being at least relatively normal or be converted to another type of Hunter, like something for the light or spiritual.
@@Doronsmovies I can imagine them either burning up/dying out like you said or finding a way to use another power to stay sane or to become less demonic.
Don't the Illidari have demons loyal to them like the shivarra? Wouldn't other demons join up too since the Legion is broken and the Illidari played a huge part in that? It would at least show that not all demons are pure evil, there are some demons who like the mortal races like Matron Malevolence says.
What's the point of Mages outside the Nexus War? What's the point of Paladins outside of fighting the Scourge? What's the point of Hunters in no-animal raids? They are all incorporated into their faction and fight for them. Demon Hunters more than any other class fights for the survival of Azeroth as was pointed out in Harbringers: Illidan cinematic.
5:59 Thank you Bro! finally other guy that thought the same as me about it. I mean some Dh can really die so their travels to the Shadowlands is like" oh Look this other after life its more bright and we dont have to fight off/wait hundreds of souls to revive!!"
This game has become a Petri dish of predictable moments & easiness where everyone is a world saving epic champion with little effort & nothing feels like an achievement.
He has a point, with the amount of world threats that have been popping up literally every other year it's no wonder things can start to feel anticlimactic. It's like Blizzard wants to turn the setting of WOW into this non stop rollercoaster of big bad(s) after big bad(s) who all want the same thing of kill everything and it gets tiresome and grating. Pretty much every other potential story or worldbuilding in WOW plays second fiddle to these world stakes events which is why I don't think just getting rid of things like old factions or faction conflicts is going to solve the fundamental problem with the game's story telling and lore development. It won't matter how many times writers use a mcguffin or world threatening villain to...well threaten the world if players know for a fact they'll never lose anything significant to them in the world or it won't have tangible and lasting consequences for them. Take the controversy over the burning of Teldrasil, that was done by a faction of not big bads (atleast in the sense of not being literally gods or huge space demons), this caused unprecedented outrage by many players, even with demands for bloody retribution and serious threats of retaliation for this story dissension, why? Because it destroyed a place that meant something to alot of people in the game, a real sense of loose, not sense cataclysm had there been such radical changes to beloved zone(s) and fueled genuine emotions in people.
It funny that you see them as the warcraft witcher as since BFA my Vengeance Dh mog is pretty much a mercenary with blades/many pockets/ rabbit tails and little fetishs here and there in the set to make it look like a bit mentaly instable for a Blood elf despite her looking like she simply went into some dark mutation... Was very hard to make any decent Mog for this exact reason as a DH since BFA.. It feel like our class is bound to the legion and no pieces of armor or even glaives released fit their theme anymore. Kinda like the idea of being that weird bad ass hermit that take contracts and keep seeking new power to destroy/play with Pretty sure they will have their times to shine again as they are basicaly the suicide squad of the WoW universe
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So what do you guys think the demon hunters are up to after Legion's defeat? Will they die out eventually, go into obscurity or will they return at some point as an order?
They are going to get a new Spec when Maiev train them to be Wardens. a New Spec without metamorphosis but has "Avatar of Veangeance" from W3, and that specializes in crowd control.
Considering the nature of the Demon Hunters and their similarities to the Death Knights it is very likely they will simply choose a new enemy. They are hunters by nature and they need prey(Oddly enough they are similar in that manner to Maiev.) so the likely choice for them would simply be to pick an enemy that threatens the peace they have obtained. The Death Knights and even Sylvanus had their own thoughts and doubts after the Icecrown Citadel raid about the nature of their existence and their futures. But it will likely be some time before we get any new big lore moments for them since the Legion was soundly defeated, leaving their greatest enemy and purpose for still living a shadow of its former self. As for new Demon Hunters? You likely hit it on the head, there is little reason for recruiting new ones. There is a possibility that victims of Demonic possession could be converted into hunters but that is purely a speculation and if true would be few and far between. In the end they will likely die out as you have stated.
i don't think the hunter demon is going to disappear because part of them are night elfs that live the swords (only if someone doesn't kill them) and if they absorb a lot of demonic energy they can't enter even if they are killed
Ps don't speak good english don't mind
They probably joined up with the horde or alliance
They simply protect azeroth from imminent threats and ally within their factions. Just like death knights or any other class. They follow orders and defend Azeroth. Just like a warrior or a mage or a priest.
Warcraft Witchers... I like that.
Basically, just magically altered instead of genetically mutated and magically altered.
I’d play that
@@seancampbell6292 I'm sure that eating and drinking demon flesh also mutated them, including infusing them with fel magic. So yeah, still a witcher.
Sounds like a good crossover.
Same as with Death Knights after Wrath. Keep fighting for Azeroth, and do what the living/uncorrupted cannot.
Demon Hunters have it worse because they're like a Lantern: keep fueling the fire or burn out, but it sucks when Demons are scattered and are basically situational when compared to DKs, who can kill any race to satisfy themselves.
@@cammykins5813 just befriend a lock and you can easily refill.
Aye fuck Azeroth I’m an orc dk
The thing though is there are always living things that a DK can bring death to. But there isn't always demon's around for DH's to kill.
I personally find it quite silly that "higher" classes (DK, DHs) would care at all about faction wars. It seems to be like their story has been much more about being world protectors than serving any leader outside of their order. These two for me always felt quite detached from the whole alliance vs horde thingy. I always imagined that both Horde and alliance DKs/DHs would immediately nope out of the faction war and go after global threats (e.g. G'huun, Azshara, N'zoth). Even if the BfA war wasn't stupid (hint, it is imo), i think the best approach is Khadgar's. I can't fight the people that I fought the Legion side by side with.
Demon Hunters sacrificed everything to save their world, but Death Knights, at least the Wrath era ones, were just victims of circumstance. Sure, a lot of the DK's used to be paladins that will still want to fulfill their oaths however they can, but many were also just powerful warriors. I figured the faction wars were just a light masquerade to give the Death Knight's desire to inflict pain a purpose, but I agree that the Demon Hunters probably wouldn't care all that much for the war
well koltira and thassarian and some i think (no sources so grain of salt) returned somehow to their factions
Well, I get Night Elf. A large chunk of there race was just wiped out, and one of there specs is called vengeance. The Blood elf ones? Yeah I'll give you that. A pontless war where the first thing that happens is you incenrate my best friends family. """"for the horde.""""
Alexandros Papadopoulos well there is good reason for them to stay with their factions. First, the death knights. They understand the factions are nothing without them, and that the world would be doomed if they didn’t bolster both factions as they did. Besides alone they really can’t do everything and similarly to a DK tank they need a healer and a group to tackle high end content, the same applies to death knights and big baddies. Second is the demon hunters. They have the same reasoning as to why. Except more so. They KNEW they needed to bolster factions. There was no denying it. They needed the factions to be able to stop the legion invasion. They simply could not do it alone and also there’s no point in not being apart of either of the factions as generally most people who don’t commit to one side or the other are considered outlying enemies and therefor would be absolutely no use for any big baddies cause they can’t do it alone and if they are alone they can’t just be like “oh hey wanna work together now guys?” That would just be lazy story writing to fix a mistake. There are more reasons as well as to why they would pick a faction.
@@kblacklabel Koltira isn't even a member of the Horde anymore lol
Some way or another there will always be demons, even if not protrayed as they are now. Like the Death knights they find their place and keep moving. They need to exist in case these events happen again.
True. Shadowlands certainly shows that DKs (or at least their lore) are relevant again. And who knows what "death" is for demons, even if they can not necessarily be reincarnated to come back now. And there must be worlds of demons out there, led by former powerful lieutenants.
Anzu Wyliei But they’d probably have to actually know the ritual to become one, and I doubt the Illidari are just handing out guides
DK's have the advantage of not being misunderstood heroes but actual antiheroes. They wanted the Lich King dead for their own benefit, not to help save the world.
@@Warlekk Haha imagine some illidari standing in the starting Zones for night/bloodelves handing out flyers wich have sth like this printed on them "You wanna get immortality? Then do this little ritual thing and become a cool Demon Hunter!" and then in small letters explaining the risk of dying and the need of killing demons and eat them after ritual lol
The fact that Sargeras was EVEN defeated in what I'm assuming was him at mostly his full power what with that HUGE world destroying sword of his by a bunch of mortals even with the aid of overpowered characters and gods kinda makes any other demon that tries to claim that they are in charge of a demonic Legion renewed look like an absolute chump in comparison. How can you possibly top that? Well I'm sure Blizzard will find some contrivance to make such a plot "work" even if it feels lackluster. With the organization of the old legion gone it makes any future demonic incursions most likely small, inconsequential, poorly organized, a localized threat and probably only lead by what's the equivalent of a small fry would be warlord amongst the demons and laughable inept. (compared to what players have faced before) If the biggest bad of the demonic machinations can be beaten by mortals and local gods then I do see how a much, much less powerful demon even from the higher orders of demon could pose even a fraction of the threat that the old legion under Sargeras presumably had.
Me, who stopped playing wow around 2010: *interesting*
My two demon hunters are "retired" so to speak. I still play them but they are mogged as to not look like typical demon hunters. Some day they will need to put the "uniform" back on. :)
Haha this is cool
Anzu Wyliei nope, being shirtless is.
@Anzu Wyliei Metaphor much?
Yeah. Mine is a wanderer now but I'm sure with Shadowlands coming out my Demon Hunter will have to pick up his warglaives once again.
What Is The Purpose of Demon Hunters After Legion?
This is the time they learn to write a resume
Interviewer: so it says here on your skills that you can...
Dh: crush a felguards head between my thighs, yes... you want a demonstration?
Interviewer: uhh... no... just wondering... how would that skill be useful to a bakery like ours...
Dh: ... do you think your head is tougher than a felguard's.
Interviewer: ...
Dh: ...
Interviewer: I'll see you on monday.
@@alainbcdefghijk lol
Hunting INNER demons, duh.
They just like, become therapists or bar keepers.
Yeah man, they're after that Kael'thas OTK
“so, how do you feel?”
“Well sometimes I just...I don’t know, I feel this inner rage, it’s like I’m possessed”
*slowly drops pen and notebook and takes out warglaives*
Its like edgy 18 yr olds
I have sacrificed everything!
If we don't meet again,die well.
MY DESTINY IS MY OWN!!!
Well in the short narrated stories about turalyon + aleria they said demons feared the void more than any other things. The void is why sargeras formed the legion in the 1st place. I'd like to see a thing like the felfire quest but for demon hunters where some dhs want to calm the eff down but can't and wanna still fight for their faction so they find a way to imbue themselves with the light like what that one naruu nearly did to Illidan. Their tats would be glowing with the light and their wings might turn feathery
It would have been really cool if we’d gotten a story about how the Warlocks of the Black Harvest and Illidari Demon Hunters in a low-intensity conflict with each other over what’s left of the Legion. With the Illidari hunting down and killing the remnants and the Black Harvest scooping up and taking control of the remnants.
always enjoy the lore videos keep up the good work
Thank you very much. :)
It's funny how much DHs and Witchers have in common, especially after Legion's defeat.
I mean I hate both of them so yeah.
What about a New Class named only *Ranger* (KEEP IT UP WITH ME HERE), but that has Specs that define it better?
1º Spec: "Dark" (then, "Dark Ranger", kind of a obvious pick).
2º Spec: "Moon" (Tyrande's new style here. kind of Farfetched, but think of a Ranger that could Heal, and mount a white tiger).
3º spec: "Warden" (Maiev is a type of high level guardian. ).
All those Characters are "Elven Rangers" or at least Ranger-ish classes that could fit into a bigger RANGER Class.
and would give another class with the option to wear mail armour since very little get to wear this
@@Wolf-pv4yr Exactly. The are a lot of pros
Oh shit i like this. It is kinda like my idea of a Dragonborn class which each spec taking after a different dragonflight (azure, black, bronze, green ect)
@@trevorruth3318 Great!!
but NEcroMancers when?
Toss a coin to your DH... Lalala lalaaalaaa :D
Oh Shadowmoon Valley
When a humble bard
Graced a ride along
With Illidan Stormrage
Along came this song
When the Betrayer fought
A silver tongued devil
His army of demons
At his hooves did they revel
They came after me
With masterful deceit
Broke down my lute
And they kicked in my teeth
While the devil's horns
Minced our tender meat
And so cried the Demon Hunter
He can't be bleat
Toss a coin to your Hunter
Oh, valley of plenty
Oh, valley of plenty, oh
Toss a coin to your Hunter
Oh, valley of plenty
At the edge of the world
Fight the mighty horde
That bashes and breaks you
And bring you the morn, oh
He thrust every demon
Far back in the Nether
High up on Argus
From whence they came
He wiped out your pest
Got kicked in his chest
He's a friend of humanity
So give him the rest
That's my epic tale:
Our champion prevailed
Defeated the villain
Now pour him some ale
Toss a coin to your Demon Hunter
O Valley of Plenty
O Valley of Plenty, oh
Toss a coin to your Hunter
A friend of humanity
Toss a coin to your Demon Hunter
O Valley of Plenty
O Valley of Plenty, oh
Toss a coin to your Hunter
A friend of humanity
Toss a coin to your Demon Hunter
O Valley of Plenty
O Valley of Plenty, a-oh
Toss a coin to your Hunter
A friend of humanity
I think that the Burning Legion wouldn't work without a really powerful, almost godlike leader. The whole system of the Burning Legion works like a pyramid held together by the promise of power. So, if there isn't a really strong entity at the top that can make some demons strong enough to grant others power themselves, the whole system wouldn't work.
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happy birthday, Doronsmovies! it's been 10 years wow!
Damn Doron, really wondering why you don't have more subscribers! Pozdrav brate!
Hvala, pozdrav. :)
Well, thats interesting, i am thinking that in the future, we Can see them more often, fighting minions od the void.
Or maybe blizzard will come with a other big Bad, so we Can re-subscribe or just sa races od Azeroth will have another work, and no rest. :D
(Btw, which slavic country is that word 'pozdrav' ? :D )
@@asindorwar Pozdrav would be from Balkan countries :D
I was wondering about that subject not long time ago. Your video gives good insight into the situation as always :]
A better question is why do advocates for warriors act so proud when spouting the virtues of magicless awsome warriors when said fighters are often sporting *enchantmented weapons and armor* or magic powered gear that keeps them from getting overshot by OP spells and keeps them relevant or competitive with more magically inclined classes? Think about it, the warriors (any worth a darn that is) all use SOME kind of magic weapon, swords, hammers, axes and etc.
I see them exactly like you said, like the Witchers. They're around now to just hunt down the last of the evil demons. I think an easy way of thinking it is, do we get rid of guards because there haven't been bandit attacks in a year? No, we'd still protect that road with them. Also huge lore implication from the main lore guy (dont know his name) said, "when the red star goes out (sargeras prison) then we are REALLY in trouble!".
When the final war is over the last casualties will be the soldiers who survive,for what is a soldier to a world that doesn't know war.
I rp a demon hunter and se is with the alliance. she sacrificed everything to save their world from the fel fire, but she then saw it was the horde that eventually burned the nightelf home to crisps. so to me it makes sense that she would hate the horde and fight them.
technically the slayer (the player) is the illidari leader. Illidan makes the player leader in the order hall campaign
Even without demons, the demon hunters are far more powerful than most classes, they are stronger and faster, they can fight any foe.
I do recall there was a world quest in Zuldazar where 2 Illidari task us in killing a shivarra in a cave.
I agree with Warcraft Witchers, at least a bunch of them. Most likely a third of them went out into the void on the Fel Hammer to hunt demons still most likely following Kayn Sunfury,
another third following the witcher route being inspired by Altruis,
and the last third rejoins their people and from there who knows some might fully retire, some might see about trying to return to what they did before they took up the hunt, or maybe some will keep fighting for their people even if it means a faction war like the Death Knights. Remember in Cata there was 2 named ones who you partner with in Western Plaguelands against both a Scourge remnant, as well enemy faction. As you put it they are physically enhanced so think Captain America after the first Avengers movie.
Demon hunters don't go to the shadowlands if they die. We saw that multiple times in the game. (Like in their starting zone or orderhall) so that cold be interesting.
Where do they go?
@@octaviangeorge5455 the twisting nether.
Sargeras isn't dead. The legion is still a threat.
When you do the shadowlands intro, you can see some Demon hunter said "I HAVE SACRIFICE ALL !" or anything else, in the spirit wave. That not ALL demon hunter who go on the neither, but only the "Strongest" or the "more demonic".
Can you answer this lore question i’m always thinking about it
When Arthas Got the full power of the Lich King ( Nerzul ) why didn’t he controlly sylvanas Windrunner again?
because he couldn't after she regained her freedom. he would have to kill her again, to force her soul into serving him again. kind of like undead death knights, they died, were risen by arthas, then got thier freedom, then were killed again and made arthas' minions again. and then they break free again and become knights of the ebon blade.
Now matter what happens, even though I don't play WOW anymore. I would still watch these interesting videos in Quarantine. Be safe
Why did you quit wow?
@@holczy0 I didn't quit, I just don't have the money to buy a strong PC or computer. The only nearby Computer station is closed due to the Pandemic.
@@bjuganda7758 Oh, I thought wow isn't really hard on computers.
DK's were keeping tabs on the Scourge so they were needed in case the Scourge runs rampant. DH's however don't have much purpose anymore.
There will always be demons.
To reveal Jaina's secret.
Maybe they can be effective against the threats that we will fight in the shadowlands. Great video as always. Just a question do you watch pyromancer and his theories about the warcraft universe.
In fact, Medivh was hunting some lone demons in secret so they remain a threat I believe
If the Shadowlands has patches, I hope one includes the Embers of the Legion striking out, but also fleeing from the Bright Crusade of Alternate Draenor.
Should DH get a soar style ability now that we have dracthyr?
Remember Harbringer: Illidan? The ultimate goal of becoming a demon hunter is to protect Azeroth without losing themselves to the demonic power, so they would still fight anything, just not as good as fighting demons. Even against non-demons, DHs' power level are still very high, which is probably why people were so scared of them in the first place. But yeah, they are just like death knights, their ultimate goal is still to fight for Azeroth, so I think they will never stop fighting, since Blizzard will always create new threat to Azeroth XD
Maybe there will be a void hunter, using void energy and light energy to fight them, just like the priest class but in a magic fighting way
Yeah that is the idea I've had, it would be super cool if somehow they could become void hunters.
@@Doronsmovies that would be interesting. Maybe we will get a 3rd spec for the DH.
I just love that they have a dps buff that hasn't worked on a single enemy since legion ended
In my personal canon, since the player becomes the leader of the Illidari in the class campaign, the Illidari are now an army of their own like a sort of independent black ops group, don’t worry we’ll be sending scouts into the shadowlands to find Sylvanas and get revenge for teldrassil for the night elves in our group
I was just wondering this,thank you
It would make more sense to ask what is the point of monks after mists of Pandaria.
Great video!!!
Thank you very much
What if, given recent Shadowlands lore reveals, the Burning Legion Dreadlords wanted Sargeras out of the way so Fel will be easily defeated when Death makes its big moves against all the other cosmic forces?
Personal I assume keep the warlocks in line and pervert another burning legion from ever forming
Probably telling everyone how much they sacrificed
Soo atrius or kayn in charge?? Of course kayn in charge
What is/was the purpose of monks?
Dobar video.
Hvala
Literally everything!
What is the purpose of monks
2:52 I need that armor...
Demon Hunters will park their spaceship next to Archerus, hang out with the death knight and listen to My Chemical Romance while they act edgy and roll their eyes at the classes that get all of the new lore love.
What Is The Purpose of Demon Hunters After Legion? to bully players in arena
Isn't Mal Ganis still alive? Great future dungeon boss btw and there was a little demon hunter and warlock team up in zuldazar. It's a world quest I think.
Dreadlords. The Nathrazeem, are essentially the ones whom control the demons (according atleast to whatever revised lore to pick). Looking at the book for Illidan itself, it always implied that the Nathrazeem were like accomplices, wherein Illidan saw them as a separate entity from Sargeras & his Legion. Whilst Sargeras would be jailed, the dreadlords basically still went on successfully, albeit with their home being destroyed like draenor became Outlands (nerhzul), after their first invasion he made a portal that after exiting would've unleashed a nuke unto Nathrazar. And if Sire Denathrius is representative of the power just one of them can have as a sort of "commander", it'd be fair to assume there's those with a greater amount.
..does it mean it all will make sense? I have no clue. Because, if according to shadowlands the jailor was an automaton.. Lol, well doesn't that make Denathrius along with the primus & the rest.. The same exact thing?... Imbued with different powers and that's about it. Who knows what they make up for it, still it feels better to have magic wand and erase SL entirely from memory imo.
I was a bit awed as a Demon Hunter Blood Elf walking through Silvermoon.
Imagine a demon hunter/death knight hybrid
Still want a Witcher hero class! Lol great video as always.
You have to always be prepared
Well they can work that the locate Walmart, Burger King, McDonald's, or something. All that free time, they can apply for either a college, trade school or university, or take the time for self taught skills.
By the way, the short phrase of you on death knights made me ask myself a question: Were death knights actually dead before they were created? I think I never read or heard anything about that ingame. I mean, Arthas wasn't technically dead. He has never been killed. He just took Frostmourne and Frostmourne took his soul, but not his life. I think, his body got twisted without a soul, but it was never mentioned that he is an actual undead, right?
Our generation of dks were dead but earlier generation turned into dks when they were alive Arthas/baron through rune blades the one like terron through warlock fuckery
man pls make video with pilav
Doron. I was just thinking about when you died in Wow the player can release their spirit and reclaim their body. Is there any lore reason for this? It was made to be a game mechanic, but perhaps it can be explained with some lore? Maybe it can't at all be explained?
Srab23 Nah. Pretty much just game mechanic. Demon Hunters reviving that way makes a little more sense since instead of dying they go to the Twisted Nether and can find their way back.
Honestly yeah, Witcher for Alliance and Shadow Hunter for Horde. Humans/Kultirans and Darkspear/Zandalari
I feel like for Night Elf demon hunters they could of participated in the fourth war due to the burning of teldrassil. The Horde succeeded in something the demons didn’t, the horde killed a large number of Night Elves and destroyed their homeland. For my demon hunter I’m a big lore nerd so I justified my night elf demon hunter fighting the horde because he didn’t see a difference between them and the legion. The Horde is guilty of destroying ancient night elf lands and genocide.
Idk if I would feel bad for my people after years of being scorned, hunted down, and imprisoned just to be let out for convenience and still be looked down on by them lol.
@@justin1594
I think part of that sense of sacrifice for demon hunters is that they know they will be ostracized by their kin for this chosen path, but that's the point. They do their duty not for praise nor for acceptance but to protect those they loved or homes even if they will never be welcomed back. It's not about glory, it's not about vain pride, it's not about some form of material or monetary compensation, it's about a sense of duty inspite of hardships. this is what helps to keep some DKs to keep going even in their darkest of times, they ask for nothing in return because that's not what many of them signed on for.
I role play a dh and get paid to either hunt down and kill demons that still exist causing problems, or ones that got away from warlocks or specific ones that warlocks want bound to them.
In my headcanon, my Orc Warlock stays behind on Argus after Sargeras' defeat to attempt to take over the Burning Legion. The Demon Hunters (who didn't go back to Azeroth) are not happy about this and try to take him down, but he constantly positions himself in such a way that he is their only option against OTHER factions trying to usurp power within the Legion. And so he and the Demon Hunters constantly have to work together even as they hold blades to each others' throats.
Going by the way demon hunters deal with demonic threats they'd prolly still kill him, to be fairly honest.
Their purpose is to be the cool class of WoW
Well, there are warlords of Legion that fight one another to become its de facto leader, infighting was something that was bound to happen, just like when Rome fell, we ill still need them just in case of something Balnazar happens, Paladins need their sleep,
I was wondering when someone would answer this question.
To be the edgiest bois in town
Both my DK and DH looking at the faction conflict like
“Are we gonna tell them we’re not interested in their pissing match?”
“Nah let them tire themselves out…”
The purpose of the demon hunters is to make game content easier lol but truly a good video
They could be used to hunt down the Shadowlands dread lords and Denathtius.
They are like blood elfs. They are addicted to fell magic. The magic goo gets them hard
I love how 2 months ago hes like "If someone intentially kills themselves" and blizz goes and makes allied race DK's...
How can blizzard keep Demon hunter lore going in shadowlands
being a class for people without fingers.
I know it's been explained, but DKs became available to nearly every race including some of the newest ones. DHs, however, are stuck as blood elf or night elf. At least extend DH possibility to the other elven races!
Purpose? To look fabulous and brooding, I guess?
We keep fighting for Azeroth and to show that Illidari are not weak
what do you mean what is the purpose
Holy shit....demon hunter has been my main since legion and i JUST started playing witcher 3 and i see the similarities....holy crap
I subscribed cuz the narrator is lowkey a Scottish dwarf
They search for the one slayer of demons more powerful and pissed than anything in existence so that they may finally put a true to the demons and the fallen titan.
It could be interesting to see if Demon Hunters can revert into being at least relatively normal or be converted to another type of Hunter, like something for the light or spiritual.
I can see them being converted to something else but not really reverted to their previous form due to so many changes that occurred.
@@Doronsmovies I can imagine them either burning up/dying out like you said or finding a way to use another power to stay sane or to become less demonic.
Finding Illidan, of course
Is Archimonde Actually Dead?
Yup.
i would do the ritual just for the power and probably die bc of that. i would still do it tho
Don't the Illidari have demons loyal to them like the shivarra? Wouldn't other demons join up too since the Legion is broken and the Illidari played a huge part in that? It would at least show that not all demons are pure evil, there are some demons who like the mortal races like Matron Malevolence says.
Paladins were once not only strong against the undead, but also against demons.
“.. and will they continue to exsist?”
Nah blizzard is just going to delete peoples’ characters. LMFAO
r/whooosh
To hang out with the DKs
What's the point of Mages outside the Nexus War?
What's the point of Paladins outside of fighting the Scourge?
What's the point of Hunters in no-animal raids?
They are all incorporated into their faction and fight for them. Demon Hunters more than any other class fights for the survival of Azeroth as was pointed out in Harbringers: Illidan cinematic.
5:59 Thank you Bro! finally other guy that thought the same as me about it. I mean some Dh can really die so their travels to the Shadowlands is like" oh Look this other after life its more bright and we dont have to fight off/wait hundreds of souls to revive!!"
Well some of them but we know that the most go to the nether. As we saw often in the game.
@@lukasvirgo8886 sorry i ment *cant really die.
Only a hand full of dh can go to the Nether not all of them
This game has become a Petri dish of predictable moments & easiness where everyone is a world saving epic champion with little effort & nothing feels like an achievement.
everyone is a world saving epic champion? sounds like an mmo or something
He has a point, with the amount of world threats that have been popping up literally every other year it's no wonder things can start to feel anticlimactic. It's like Blizzard wants to turn the setting of WOW into this non stop rollercoaster of big bad(s) after big bad(s) who all want the same thing of kill everything and it gets tiresome and grating. Pretty much every other potential story or worldbuilding in WOW plays second fiddle to these world stakes events which is why I don't think just getting rid of things like old factions or faction conflicts is going to solve the fundamental problem with the game's story telling and lore development. It won't matter how many times writers use a mcguffin or world threatening villain to...well threaten the world if players know for a fact they'll never lose anything significant to them in the world or it won't have tangible and lasting consequences for them. Take the controversy over the burning of Teldrasil, that was done by a faction of not big bads (atleast in the sense of not being literally gods or huge space demons), this caused unprecedented outrage by many players, even with demands for bloody retribution and serious threats of retaliation for this story dissension, why? Because it destroyed a place that meant something to alot of people in the game, a real sense of loose, not sense cataclysm had there been such radical changes to beloved zone(s) and fueled genuine emotions in people.
It funny that you see them as the warcraft witcher as since BFA my Vengeance Dh mog is pretty much a mercenary with blades/many pockets/ rabbit tails and little fetishs here and there in the set to make it look like a bit mentaly instable for a Blood elf despite her looking like she simply went into some dark mutation... Was very hard to make any decent Mog for this exact reason as a DH since BFA.. It feel like our class is bound to the legion and no pieces of armor or even glaives released fit their theme anymore.
Kinda like the idea of being that weird bad ass hermit that take contracts and keep seeking new power to destroy/play with
Pretty sure they will have their times to shine again as they are basicaly the suicide squad of the WoW universe
Well, lore wise, they can't get much stronger without the Legion, so.....
Lol “the turd war” XD