Have you ever had a dream that that you um you had you'd you would you could you'd do you wi you wants you you could do so you you'd do you could you you want you want him to do you so much you could do anything?
6:06 can you cast sigil first if you are too far away to damage with immolation? Just levelled my first character to level 70 and I tend to start with sigil, throw glaive, immol, fell rush etc Edit: I should've said that your videos are the easiest for me to follow and good job on making it so!
Does he do anything with Vengeance builds or tips. I loved this entire vid it was thought out and well done. Anyone know if he has other videos about tanking with a DH or who might have a Vengeance guide this well put together?
I played vengeance quite a bit, and quaziwow seems to be most coherent about vengeance. He breaks it down really well, and vengeance is an easy tank to use.
The proc effect scales with ilvl, so if we upgrade them early, the dmg is good in comparison to our other low ilvl gear. Eventually we switch off it, as stated in the video
Thanks for all the helpful information! I love your channel and your way of explaining things. The only bad thing about DH being so good now, is trying to get into a group without another dh in it. On a side note..what mount is that???
My husband is the one who searches for groups. He knows if there's another dh in there, he better not queue us. LOL He doesn't always listen, 'cause he likes to piss me off. @@Jedithtv
Thx a lot for this high quality guide but i dont understand why our bis weapons is this crit/haaste "double time" when crist mastery are our best stats? if someone has the answer i would love hear it
Hi Jedith, quick question regarding UBC, does it actually matter if we hit the boss with FR? Specifically for the opener, its a lot easier to FR and use the hunt (granted we get a proc) than have to move forward/felblade then FR
I appreciate you saying what ever build is viable. I am an over the road truck driver. I have very limited time. often around 45 minutes every two or three days. Thank you for a straight up no bs guide.
Is it worth to have Inertia for Eye Beam or is it just better to use eye beam before and then fel rush into death sweep etc? (new to havoc, mage main sorry)
Hey Jedith once again , thanks for the tips , i follow u for a long time now , its nice to see a fellow main DH fighting for our class even in dark times . we finally got our deserved buff . keep the awesome work :)
I gave up on my DH a few patches ago because I just got so sick of always being fury starved and always having to wait for throw glaive before I could do any damage. Such a dumb and boring build for a class that is supposed to be lightning speed I just started watching, but I really hope a build where fat eye beams and massive death sweeps are viable again. One where pressing chaos slash can be a part of the rotation and throw glaive gets thrown in the trash. Here’s hoping, guess I am about to find out
I’ve always hated lining up vengeful retreat with essence break while in the air n trying to to get back in range. I hit eye beam, and essence break, death sweep, vengeful retreat into an instant meta at target, death sweep. Uses movement talents well without actually having to move :) hope this helps
i hate it too and have changed my opener a little bit(with ESSB). my opener is immo aura>sigil of flame>fel rush>the hunt>eye beam>vengeful retreat+immo aura>fel rush>ESSB>death sweep>meta>deathsweep>annihalation. im very happy with this opener.
and then they got nerfed back because of that socalled big damage.i don't see very many dhs in the content we play and when you do its like one and you only knew it when they transform.
Also I never hear this enough so imma say it again for the people in the back. Vengeful retreat outside of combat. Your fury takes forever to deplete. You can easily sit capped outside of combat. Don’t VR into combat but def pre pull. Easy money. especially when running fell barrage build
@Jedithtv Hey, great guide! I hope you can help me (or anyone else): How much RNG is built into the Havoc Spec? And how much does it affect it's performance or better yet how much does it's performance vary because of the RNG? From what I could understand from the talent tree, the RNG is mostly there regarding the resource system. Or does it go further? And other than that, how enjoyable is Havoc DH at the moment? How smooth is it's rotation? And how viable are the non-mover builds (since the mover builds are theoretically performing the best)? Thank you in advance :)
I have seen this opener and Essence Break window: Opener: Sigil>Immo>Eye Beam (gets initiative)>FR>Hunt>VR>EssB>Deathsweep>Meta>Deathsweep>2xAnni>Immo>FR>Eye Beam. EssB window: Immo>VR>Eye Beam>FR>EssB>Deathsweep>2xAnni. This opener doesn't take into consideration the charge generation. But it tries to include Eye Beam into the Initiative window since we don't take Looks Can Kill anymore according, I kinda like it. What's your opinion? I've seen Blurnomnom post this rotation and VooDooSaurus. Also from Blurnomnom a Fel Barrage window: Immo>FR through>Immo>FR through>VR>Fel Barrage>Fel Blade>Sigil>Hunt>Eye Beam>Deathsweep. That has the 8 seconds up of Fel Barrage and let's you do more damage inside the Inertia window. Edit: My brain just realized that opener is the no proc opener with Fel Blade in the middle to close the distance.
The fatigue thing is sooo true! I work 12 hours on raid day and come home literally 6 min before invite. I don't have any energy left to play something else than no mover. I even asked about moving raid dates to another time but Noone wanted it. I just work until 7 pm what can I do? Most groups raid that Timo or until midnight and that's out of question too since I begin working at 7 am the next day. Other groups just said I should quit raiding or play another game -.-
Nice! now I'll do even more damage, I jumped in blind yesterday, not really knowing much and still top damage by a lot, ilvl 439 doing 240k dps in everbloom hehe, ofc last boss takes more damage so total will look better, but on my WW Monk I was just able to get over 200k in the same dungeon at ilvl 455, and that's a class I know very well, kinda rediculous and funny at the same time. Also I havent tried fel barrage yet, atm I am playing with the spinning blades ability, whatever tis called and essence break, I do not have the new tier set yet so, also I used Elysian Decree in a few dungeons instead of the hunt and total damage was actually higher with it, but thats prob cuz i do lower keys(14-15) and stuff dies fast, or maybe I use the hunt wrong, I dont have much exp with havoc yet as I said.
Excellent run down..I'm a new DH player and will be following you.. You got any links for your interface in game? I want mine to look like that lol What youre using and Weak Auras?
How does the soulscar talent work? The wording is so confusing. Does it deal glaive damage as chaos over 6 sec? Does it double the damage you deal in the 6 sec window as chaos damage?
Why isnt fel barrage used in single targeg? Would all misiles focus on theltarget? I'm loving the double blade rush thing. Is it to much of a dps loss in inertia fel barrage builds?
Slight necro but got a question: Why Fel Rush AFTER Eyebeam in the No Proc opener? Shouldn't we want to FR>Eyebeam>The Hunt so that both spells benefit from the bonus dmg from Inertia?
You’re not looking to buff eye beam with inertia as eye beam barely does any dmg now a days. If you do it that way, inertia will not last long enough to line up with your essb and initiative
Others have said this already but I very much appreciate your comment of any build being viable. I only play DH as an alt but I still felt some peer pressure to use the Inertia build which I just couldn't get the hang of. Switched to low movement and my DPS actually increased by a good margin just cause it's more comfortable. Enjoying my DH way more now :)
Im new to the spec and have been recommended using Helkili. Can anyone confirm whether it's accurate? Im following the rotation Helkili suggests, but I don't feel im doing much damage on single target.
Ive tested fel barrage in some m+ now and It feels bad to stop basically everything u do (except fury gaining) for 8s while fel barraging. I was thinking maybe blind fury would fix this issue, thoughts? Also then it would make sense to use it foer opener since eyebeaming would make u go full fury, but for the downtime of fel barrage i guess it doesnt add anything. /fishidan
Any recommendations on what to craft blue-silken linen on? I got reamed in the Fel Hammer cord because I made the boots dreamcrafted with BSL so that feels great.
Thank you for the amazing guide! I haven't played Havoc since legion and really wanted to try it again, especially after the rework. And thank you so much for the section about playing the build you want too, I would be lying if I said I wasn't a bit hesitant to try Havoc again even after the rework due to not wanting to play the movement builds, but hearing all the points you made about playing the build you want to dispelled that hesitation. Edit: Also, thank you so much for the straight forward explanation and cheat sheets, Wowhead guide was breaking my brain lol
I use a rotation helper (hekili). I am assuming that it would calculate the next best button to press better than I could at least till I learn the new roation. Have you used a rotation helper addon? and if so, do you think its better to play with or without. Thank you and great vid as always!
New fel barrage is so cool. The burst windows feel wonky with inertia build. Still trying to get used to it and might run my higher keys with a non-mover build.
Good video! I found out maybe at the start after getting toxic foot crafted, pairing it with a BSL on second craft would be better since i play m+ and raiding aswell (the 2 option - 2 BSL OR toxic+patch is strong either in m+ or raid but weak in the other scenario). Sims show aswell that its a middle path for both content, what do you think about it?
thanks for the videos they're awesome man> you do a great job explaining the information in an easy way to understand! Anyways thanks for the videos and I was hoping at some point maybe make one showing how you got your setup to look the way it does? thanks!
You've got a real talent for teaching things in a thorough, straight forward/easy to follow, and concise way. Thanks for the content
Thank you !
Words cannot express how happy I am that Fodder is gone. Actually gonna play DH again!
Have you ever had a dream that that you um you had you'd you would you could you'd do you wi you wants you you could do so you you'd do you could you you want you want him to do you so much you could do anything?
VERY detailed and good guide. love it thanks ! :)
Glad it was helpful!
6:06 can you cast sigil first if you are too far away to damage with immolation? Just levelled my first character to level 70 and I tend to start with sigil, throw glaive, immol, fell rush etc
Edit: I should've said that your videos are the easiest for me to follow and good job on making it so!
Finally someone will consider us this season... can't wait for it 😍
Wtf are you taking about? Never had trouble finding groups tf
I did...@@James-kv3ll
Add sections plz for when coming back to check certain parts.
Does he do anything with Vengeance builds or tips. I loved this entire vid it was thought out and well done. Anyone know if he has other videos about tanking with a DH or who might have a Vengeance guide this well put together?
I played vengeance quite a bit, and quaziwow seems to be most coherent about vengeance. He breaks it down really well, and vengeance is an easy tank to use.
hello jedith, can you or anyone tell me if I can get the warglaives of azinoth on any character or just characters that use swords?
Thanks for the vid, i just wonder how thorn boots are better after nerf and us not going haste anymore which should reduce the procs significantly :o
The proc effect scales with ilvl, so if we upgrade them early, the dmg is good in comparison to our other low ilvl gear. Eventually we switch off it, as stated in the video
@@Jedithtv gotcha thanks
amazing content for sure! love how you emphasized play what is fun to you. Not everything needs to be min maxed.
Beat me to it. I couldn't agree more, and thankfully we have some flexibility this time around :)
Thanks for all the helpful information! I love your channel and your way of explaining things. The only bad thing about DH being so good now, is trying to get into a group without another dh in it. On a side note..what mount is that???
My #1 rule is never group with another Havoc! :)
My husband is the one who searches for groups. He knows if there's another dh in there, he better not queue us. LOL He doesn't always listen, 'cause he likes to piss me off. @@Jedithtv
Thx a lot for this high quality guide but i dont understand why our bis weapons is this crit/haaste "double time" when crist mastery are our best stats? if someone has the answer i would love hear it
The double time weapon has a proc on it (not shown in that tooltip for some reason)
Hi Jedith, quick question regarding UBC, does it actually matter if we hit the boss with FR? Specifically for the opener, its a lot easier to FR and use the hunt (granted we get a proc) than have to move forward/felblade then FR
This is what I do. Throw glaive to get burning wounds. Immolation aura FR and the the Hunt since I'm already there. Then the Eyebeam E break stuff.
This seems really great, but idk why I just have 0 desire to play anymore :(
Hey man darkness says out of raid 100% avoid damage. We're can I see that it's 30 percent in a donguen?
It’s a 100% increase from 15% baseline. Making it 30%
I appreciate you saying what ever build is viable. I am an over the road truck driver. I have very limited time. often around 45 minutes every two or three days. Thank you for a straight up no bs guide.
Glad to hear you found it useful!
ty for this video. as someone new to wow and demon hunter i was still able to understand so well. excited for the raid today!
Glad I could help!
Hey man, you showed the no mover raid build, could you do one on the m+ setup for it ?
Great video, bro! Excellent content as always. Greetings from Latin America.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Is it worth to have Inertia for Eye Beam or is it just better to use eye beam before and then fel rush into death sweep etc? (new to havoc, mage main sorry)
It’s more important to use the inertia buff for the full essence break combo, especially when it’s blade dance, meta, blade dance
chapters would be nice
Hey Jedith once again , thanks for the tips , i follow u for a long time now , its nice to see a fellow main DH fighting for our class even in dark times .
we finally got our deserved buff . keep the awesome work :)
My pleasure!
XD I was at the same time looking again at your vids to see if there was news, thank you AGAIN, I always follow your guides and was kinda lost
Glad to help!
I love fel barage but I'm still feeling EB is better in most dungeons
I gave up on my DH a few patches ago because I just got so sick of always being fury starved and always having to wait for throw glaive before I could do any damage. Such a dumb and boring build for a class that is supposed to be lightning speed
I just started watching, but I really hope a build where fat eye beams and massive death sweeps are viable again. One where pressing chaos slash can be a part of the rotation and throw glaive gets thrown in the trash. Here’s hoping, guess I am about to find out
Thank you for the video guide! I just came back to WoW and my old main, DH. It’s so good to see it doing it well. 😁
Glad you enjoyed!
Love the format of this video. Great change.
Glad you like it!
So ready🤘🏻🤘🏻
I’ve always hated lining up vengeful retreat with essence break while in the air n trying to to get back in range. I hit eye beam, and essence break, death sweep, vengeful retreat into an instant meta at target, death sweep. Uses movement talents well without actually having to move :) hope this helps
i hate it too and have changed my opener a little bit(with ESSB). my opener is immo aura>sigil of flame>fel rush>the hunt>eye beam>vengeful retreat+immo aura>fel rush>ESSB>death sweep>meta>deathsweep>annihalation. im very happy with this opener.
I also think that not Inertia or Fel Rush are the play style that many don’t like, it’s all combined and I see VR as the bigger problem
How do you cast vengeful retreat + essence break and make it so break hits all of the targets in front of you? I always miss always all of them
and then they got nerfed back because of that socalled big damage.i don't see very many dhs in the content we play and when you do its like one and you only knew it when they transform.
Thanks for the great content as always, boss
My pleasure!
this jumping around is just so super annoying :(
gonna try the non or slow mover! - thanks for the guides
Also I never hear this enough so imma say it again for the people in the back. Vengeful retreat outside of combat. Your fury takes forever to deplete. You can easily sit capped outside of combat. Don’t VR into combat but def pre pull. Easy money. especially when running fell barrage build
This a great tip, thank you!
You are losing Iniative buff uptime if you do it out of combat. You want to do it after your initiative drops (thats why ppl do it in Essence break ).
This guy know how to play DH
The best of all the dhs has spoken
how do u fit all that in one inertia window? i feel like the hunt and vengeful buffer timers eat up so much time...
with 2 seasons down with the same essb combos im having a hard af time swaping the prios in my brain lol big inting this first week
hello Jedith, you only get 489ilvl doubletime from vault?
Hi! Awesome content!
Do we need some haste cap? Or shoud we look for more crit and mastery?
The video explains that bruh
You’ll get haste from your tier set pieces
@Jedithtv Hey, great guide!
I hope you can help me (or anyone else):
How much RNG is built into the Havoc Spec? And how much does it affect it's performance or better yet how much does it's performance vary because of the RNG?
From what I could understand from the talent tree, the RNG is mostly there regarding the resource system. Or does it go further?
And other than that, how enjoyable is Havoc DH at the moment? How smooth is it's rotation? And how viable are the non-mover builds (since the mover builds are theoretically performing the best)?
Thank you in advance :)
love your content bro keep going :)
Appreciate it!
I have seen this opener and Essence Break window:
Opener:
Sigil>Immo>Eye Beam (gets initiative)>FR>Hunt>VR>EssB>Deathsweep>Meta>Deathsweep>2xAnni>Immo>FR>Eye Beam.
EssB window:
Immo>VR>Eye Beam>FR>EssB>Deathsweep>2xAnni.
This opener doesn't take into consideration the charge generation. But it tries to include Eye Beam into the Initiative window since we don't take Looks Can Kill anymore according, I kinda like it. What's your opinion? I've seen Blurnomnom post this rotation and VooDooSaurus.
Also from Blurnomnom a Fel Barrage window:
Immo>FR through>Immo>FR through>VR>Fel Barrage>Fel Blade>Sigil>Hunt>Eye Beam>Deathsweep.
That has the 8 seconds up of Fel Barrage and let's you do more damage inside the Inertia window.
Edit: My brain just realized that opener is the no proc opener with Fel Blade in the middle to close the distance.
so basically fel barrage is now a less pain in the ass breath of sindragosa now?
The fatigue thing is sooo true! I work 12 hours on raid day and come home literally 6 min before invite.
I don't have any energy left to play something else than no mover.
I even asked about moving raid dates to another time but Noone wanted it.
I just work until 7 pm what can I do? Most groups raid that Timo or until midnight and that's out of question too since I begin working at 7 am the next day.
Other groups just said I should quit raiding or play another game -.-
This video owns, just subbed!
Nice! now I'll do even more damage, I jumped in blind yesterday, not really knowing much and still top damage by a lot, ilvl 439 doing 240k dps in everbloom hehe, ofc last boss takes more damage so total will look better, but on my WW Monk I was just able to get over 200k in the same dungeon at ilvl 455, and that's a class I know very well, kinda rediculous and funny at the same time.
Also I havent tried fel barrage yet, atm I am playing with the spinning blades ability, whatever tis called and essence break, I do not have the new tier set yet so, also I used Elysian Decree in a few dungeons instead of the hunt and total damage was actually higher with it, but thats prob cuz i do lower keys(14-15) and stuff dies fast, or maybe I use the hunt wrong, I dont have much exp with havoc yet as I said.
Excellent run down..I'm a new DH player and will be following you.. You got any links for your interface in game? I want mine to look like that lol What youre using and Weak Auras?
thanks for the video Jedith!
Good luck on the new raid!
Thank you too!
Is there a way to get that thumbnail as a wallpaper? Its sick
How does the soulscar talent work? The wording is so confusing. Does it deal glaive damage as chaos over 6 sec? Does it double the damage you deal in the 6 sec window as chaos damage?
Please forgive my incompetence my lord, but what is the proc you are talking about? 5:47
A Fire Inside proc
Ok but how do I use throw glaive if i dont have my 2 piece yet lol.
press it in aoe over chaos strike
high quality as usual my dude
Ty!
One of the best videos for the Havoc DH
Dh isnt better than ever. He was great at Legion last season. With unlimited eye beam spam on packs
😭😭
Why isnt fel barrage used in single targeg? Would all misiles focus on theltarget? I'm loving the double blade rush thing. Is it to much of a dps loss in inertia fel barrage builds?
Thx, for all the 10.2 videos!
Glad you like them!
Slight necro but got a question: Why Fel Rush AFTER Eyebeam in the No Proc opener? Shouldn't we want to FR>Eyebeam>The Hunt so that both spells benefit from the bonus dmg from Inertia?
You’re not looking to buff eye beam with inertia as eye beam barely does any dmg now a days. If you do it that way, inertia will not last long enough to line up with your essb and initiative
@@Jedithtv Oh ok that makes way more sense now...Thanks!
Sadly cant copy the builds because the game says they were made with the old version
Get them from the discord
Wow! What an absolute unit of a video! REALLY great quality!
Hands down Jedith, probably one of your best videos you did (so far :P)!
Wow, thanks!
Quick question, if you have thorn callers claw and double time of equal level does it matter which is mainhand and which is offhand?
Hdh so good i can use any buikd and comp 😅😅
what is the priority stats ? in order please :/
which build do i go with for leveling???
Is the rework high APM? Fast paced? It can it be chill?
How good is cycle of hatred these days?
Others have said this already but I very much appreciate your comment of any build being viable. I only play DH as an alt but I still felt some peer pressure to use the Inertia build which I just couldn't get the hang of. Switched to low movement and my DPS actually increased by a good margin just cause it's more comfortable. Enjoying my DH way more now :)
Glad to hear you're having fun! :)
Where do you find the sims information?
Hi, great content! Quick question, is there a build without demon blades?
The m+ build the same as on wowhead?
Are thats builds made For 2 sets tier?
Have to say this class an spec is fun as hell
Im new to the spec and have been recommended using Helkili. Can anyone confirm whether it's accurate? Im following the rotation Helkili suggests, but I don't feel im doing much damage on single target.
Do not use hekili. It is a horrible way to improve at the game. Learn what the abilities do and why you press them
Ive tested fel barrage in some m+ now and It feels bad to stop basically everything u do (except fury gaining) for 8s while fel barraging. I was thinking maybe blind fury would fix this issue, thoughts? Also then it would make sense to use it foer opener since eyebeaming would make u go full fury, but for the downtime of fel barrage i guess it doesnt add anything. /fishidan
Any recommendations on what to craft blue-silken linen on? I got reamed in the Fel Hammer cord because I made the boots dreamcrafted with BSL so that feels great.
Anything that you know you're not gonna replace quickly. belt/wrists/ring are all good options
Thank you for the amazing guide! I haven't played Havoc since legion and really wanted to try it again, especially after the rework. And thank you so much for the section about playing the build you want too, I would be lying if I said I wasn't a bit hesitant to try Havoc again even after the rework due to not wanting to play the movement builds, but hearing all the points you made about playing the build you want to dispelled that hesitation.
Edit: Also, thank you so much for the straight forward explanation and cheat sheets, Wowhead guide was breaking my brain lol
Great guide! Can someone please explain why toxic boots are better than slimy boots? I feel the hp and stats are better, no?
Do you play Havoc Demon Hunter Ignition M+ Build directly or only after you acquired 2p of t31?
Any time you want. if you don't have 2pc just make sure you are manually pressing throw glaive
Roughly how much percentage behind is the no mover build in M+? Cheers in advance Jedith.
If you take Initiative, not too much
ty for the good quality content jed
I talk about it in the video
yah lol my bad and ty again @@Jedithtv
I use a rotation helper (hekili). I am assuming that it would calculate the next best button to press better than I could at least till I learn the new roation. Have you used a rotation helper addon? and if so, do you think its better to play with or without. Thank you and great vid as always!
I would avoid rotation helpers. they can become a crutch without you actually understanding what you're pressing and why
great as always :)
Thank you! Cheers!
any idea about bis trinkets
Tf is this community agreement to comment? Whatever, fel rush gets me too dizzy. Really wish they'd remove it or give an option to reduce the range.
amazing guide! Thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Ty ty ...right time ❤🎉
please add time stamps on video, it will help a lot!
New fel barrage is so cool. The burst windows feel wonky with inertia build. Still trying to get used to it and might run my higher keys with a non-mover build.
No mover build yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What do you think about momentum build from wowhead guide for ST ?
not advised but definitely an option
Good video! I found out maybe at the start after getting toxic foot crafted, pairing it with a BSL on second craft would be better since i play m+ and raiding aswell (the 2 option - 2 BSL OR toxic+patch is strong either in m+ or raid but weak in the other scenario). Sims show aswell that its a middle path for both content, what do you think about it?
BSL will be better later on!
Love your breakdowns and overviews. Thank you for the content!
Glad you like them!
Says your Discord invite in invalid
Its not. try again.
IF u dont have the 2 set do u keep using throw glaive !?
You can. You just have to manually press throw glaive
thanks for the videos they're awesome man> you do a great job explaining the information in an easy way to understand! Anyways thanks for the videos and I was hoping at some point maybe make one showing how you got your setup to look the way it does? thanks!
I appreciate that!
Wat is BSL??
wow this one was info dense but easy to watch and understand, keep crushing it
Glad it helped!