"Thinking Outside The Box" Comes From THIS PUZZLE! (w/ Andrew Heaton)

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  • Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
  • No foolin'! Diamond Jim Tyler is back with two tricky dot puzzles--can Andrew Heaton draw his way out of a paper bag?
    Diamond Jim Tyler: djtyler.com/
    Andrew Heaton: fridayreleasev...
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    This video made by:
    Brian Brushwood
    Brandt Hughes
    Bryce Castillo
    Annaliese Martin
    Cory Cranfill
    Eli Carll
    Edited by Heather Tayte

Комментарии • 69

  • @SimBol1216
    @SimBol1216 2 года назад +28

    I feel so proud of myself for getting the second one.

  • @theeboseissher
    @theeboseissher 2 года назад +5

    I got both the puzzles cuz ive seen them before but It's always a great video whenever DJT is in it!

  • @FIREBRAND38
    @FIREBRAND38 2 года назад +1

    The Nine Dots Puzzle is much older than the slogan. It appears in Sam Loyd's 1914 Cyclopedia of Puzzles. A man named John Adair claimed, in a 2007 book, The art of creative thinking : how to be innovative and develop great ideas that he introduced the puzzle in 1969 as a way of "thinking outside the box". Trouble is the phrase "Think outside the box" appears in a 1968 article by S. Karger in _Frontiers of Radiation Therapy and Oncology, Volume 40_ . Haven't found any reference that an unnamed salesman was the first to use this puzzle to teach "thinking outside the box".

  • @G.Aaron.Fisher
    @G.Aaron.Fisher 2 года назад +3

    There are many solutions to the second problem other than the one mentioned in the video. Three squares can create up to 26 different regions, and you only have 9 dots to place among them, so there's a lot of wiggle room. That's great as it means there are some tougher follow-ups that you can give, depending on how the first puzzle was solved. For example, try to put all 17 of these dots into different regions:
    . . . . .
    . .
    . . .
    . .
    . . . . .
    This can also be done with just 3 squares!
    Interestingly, some people may have an easier time with this version than with the 9 dot version if you give it to them straight away.

    • @Pystro
      @Pystro 2 года назад

      I had an easier time with the 9 dot version. But I think I saw that puzzle before.
      This one really got me to think. Good one.

  • @connorgriffon1831
    @connorgriffon1831 2 года назад +11

    the solution to the first puzzle is drawing the dots so close that one line will cover them all.

    • @ryanc473
      @ryanc473 2 года назад +3

      Or, alternatively, using such a thick marker that a single line is thick enough to cover them all. Dealer's choice

  • @medomak1
    @medomak1 2 года назад +3

    Nice to see Diamond Jim Tyler again.

  • @OofHearted
    @OofHearted 2 года назад +1

    Those two look like they're relatives.

  • @LadOGamming
    @LadOGamming 2 года назад +1

    I got them both but the second one in a different way

  • @michihaba4435
    @michihaba4435 2 года назад +1

    While watching the second puzzle I was thinking: how is this episode not sponsored by SquareSpace?

  • @FrezaPratama
    @FrezaPratama 2 года назад +1

    Are they sibling?😶

  • @Big.cOfficial
    @Big.cOfficial 2 года назад +2

    Very nice. Got to stump people on this now. 🤣🤣🤣

  • @micahg196
    @micahg196 2 года назад +2

    Always great when you run out of material so you just repeat stuff

  • @crandalllogan584
    @crandalllogan584 2 года назад +3

    I love he actually has that url

  • @Semystic
    @Semystic 2 года назад +3

    Figured out the 2nd one pretty quickly since the theme is thinking outside the box. You don't need to have squares that are in a set orientation, they can be rotated 90 degrees
    Edit: 45 degrees, not 90

    • @frgnr88
      @frgnr88 2 года назад +5

      You do realize that a square rotated 90 degrees would still be a square set in the same orientation?

    • @Semystic
      @Semystic 2 года назад +1

      @@frgnr88 Ah so it is 🤣 You know what I meant lol

    • @frgnr88
      @frgnr88 2 года назад

      @@Semystic I had a feeling but you never know.

  • @JudithOpdebeeck
    @JudithOpdebeeck 2 года назад +1

    Interesting idea to put these two together. Feels like one of those hard vs impossible puzzles, except both of them are possible

  • @natew.7951
    @natew.7951 2 года назад +1

    I figured out the second pretty quickly by drawing the two obvious squares and then just drawing the necessary lines to separate the dots. then it's just a matter of looking at the lines and figuring out how to make them form a square.

  • @hogsquicktricks6155
    @hogsquicktricks6155 2 года назад +2

    Those were the most awkward drawn squares I have ever seen 🤣

    • @podcastfarm
      @podcastfarm 2 года назад

      This was disturbing me and I’m so glad you noticed it 🤣

  • @MrBlbll
    @MrBlbll 2 года назад +1

    is that felt
    dag nammit

  • @Maninawig
    @Maninawig Год назад

    For the second puzzle, the seating arrangement is a hint... a Diamond in between two squares.

  • @PhilipLautinJackson
    @PhilipLautinJackson 2 года назад

    make the paper a tube and you can use just one (very long) slightly off-center line

  • @terrypickette118
    @terrypickette118 2 года назад +1

    - 👍 👍 🔧 -

  • @ramonhamm3885
    @ramonhamm3885 2 года назад

    ... then the Dots had an uprising yelling: "no more segregation of Dots!"

  • @BryceCastillo
    @BryceCastillo 2 года назад +1

    8:17 what the heck???????

  • @TheY2AProblem
    @TheY2AProblem 2 года назад +1

    Hot dog water and coleslaw.

  • @villacando
    @villacando 2 года назад

    I think the second one is easier if you’re brazilian -> 🇧🇷

  • @harshmoor2280
    @harshmoor2280 2 года назад

    I learned the 4 line puzzle solution from rescue heros when I was a kid

  • @F-Los
    @F-Los 2 года назад

    Nice jacket...can I show you something?

  • @ramonhamm3885
    @ramonhamm3885 2 года назад

    I came up with a way using 2 equal squares and 1 rectangle.

  • @purelyprimitives
    @purelyprimitives 2 года назад

    The first puzzle can be done with one single line using the same paper, pattern and pen. If you really think outside the box it's easy...

  • @IWubYooz
    @IWubYooz 2 года назад

    I took a more complicated approach to the 2nd one. From left to right, top to bottom, 1 - 9: A skewed (about 20 degrees) square to the right goes around dots 1-5. A similarly skewed square to the right goes around dots 5-9, 5 is by itself. Then a square at about 45 degrees goes around 2, 4, 5, 6, and 8 and intersects with the other two boxes in a way that keeps 2 and 4 from each other and 6 and 8 from each other. Similarly it also intersects with the outside part of the other two boxes to keep 1 and 3 apart as well as 7 and 9.

  • @BlueFlash215
    @BlueFlash215 2 года назад +3

    With a big enough paper you can do the first puzzle in 3 lines

    • @scamschool
      @scamschool  2 года назад +1

      how so?

    • @mrbrowniez5387
      @mrbrowniez5387 2 года назад +2

      @@scamschool you draw the middle line at a verry narrow angle so that it touches all 3 middle dots but can also connect to 2 straight lines on the outside, i hope that's explained well enough

    • @syluxfan2doublefence406
      @syluxfan2doublefence406 2 года назад +1

      @@scamschool, line 1 goes through 3 at a side, then continues on. Line 2, goes at an acute angle, through the 3 middle dots. That line continues until it lines up with the last 3. Line 3, just goes through what's left. I heard.

    • @BlueFlash215
      @BlueFlash215 2 года назад +2

      @@scamschool the others explained it quite well. You can make this riddle a little easier by drawing small circles (a little smaller than a penny) and then proceed as the ones above me said.
      1 2 3
      4 5 6
      7 8 9
      Slightly angled towards the middle through 1-2-3. Then after drawing a long line, same angle but towards the center through 4-5-6. Let that line fade out in a long line and bring it back to 7-8-9

    • @rbm10101
      @rbm10101 2 года назад +1

      Looks like 3 blue beat me to the 3 line solution......

  • @stevethorpe
    @stevethorpe 2 года назад

    If you think even further outside the box there is a way to connect that arrangement of nine dots with only three straight lines, given a big enough piece of paper. Since the dots must have a non-zero diameter ( otherwise you couldn't see them) they could be connected with three almost-parallel lines forming a very elongated 'Z' (draw the dots much larger and it's easy to see how)

  • @TheDaedalusHelios
    @TheDaedalusHelios 2 года назад

    what song is in the backgound at around 2:15?

  • @chubby_deity3143
    @chubby_deity3143 2 года назад

    not exactly "getting" the solutions but grew up already knowing both problems....

  • @NochSoEinKaddiFan
    @NochSoEinKaddiFan 2 года назад

    I figured the second one out, but it really bugs me, that I wasn't patient enough to figure out the first one.
    Especially as a legitimate potentate of the rose...

  • @kmktruthserum9328
    @kmktruthserum9328 2 года назад

    Ya know, I learned the first riddle as a young kid BUT the dots were about a centimeter in diameter AND four lines was the easy level...
    however there is a way to do a hard level!
    It says to connect all 9 dots with only 3 STRAIGHT LINES. And anytime this riddle, 'out of the box' is presented... they only ask for the answer to the four lines. No one ever asks

    • @TheInfectionization
      @TheInfectionization 2 года назад

      The three-line-solution only works with dots that have a diameter. It takes advantage of the fact that a straight line doesn't have to go through the center of the dots. Just start the line at one side of the first circle and draw the line towards the other side of the last circle in the same row/column. Continuing out from there you'd come to a point where you can turn around and draw a straight line through the second row/column of circles, rinse and repeat.
      The pattern is /\/

  • @jeffersondiuguid9844
    @jeffersondiuguid9844 2 года назад +1

    Is that the dude from Reason magazine?

  • @Occult_Orchid
    @Occult_Orchid 2 года назад

    2:06 I find myself having these kind of moments far too frequently😂

  • @grlmgor
    @grlmgor 2 года назад

    3:42 if you do a 45 degree square you can also finish the puzzle.

    • @Pystro
      @Pystro 2 года назад

      Not quite, that square would need to exclude the top right and bottom left dots. But that would mean it can't include both the top left and bottom right ones, and at least one would be free.

    • @grlmgor
      @grlmgor 2 года назад

      @@Pystro aghh yes 2 of them would be set free didn't know you had to contain them all.
      If i could use 1 rectangle it would work =)

  • @iamconio
    @iamconio 2 года назад

    RIP Heaton's blazer

  • @joebagodonuts8119
    @joebagodonuts8119 2 года назад

    I got it.

  • @JIngramSwimming
    @JIngramSwimming 2 года назад

    Do the cages in the second puzzle have to be square or are rectangles okay?

    • @BlueFlash215
      @BlueFlash215 2 года назад

      It says squares

    • @Arobsite
      @Arobsite 2 года назад +2

      Based on other episodes, I think Brian's suggested answer to this question would be "I can do it with squares."

  • @invisibledave
    @invisibledave 2 года назад +1

    I always do the first 9 dot trick with 3 lines.

    • @brettonjohansen1619
      @brettonjohansen1619 2 года назад

      How's that?

    • @G.Aaron.Fisher
      @G.Aaron.Fisher 2 года назад +1

      You can only "solve" it with three lines by using Air Bud logic.

    • @invisibledave
      @invisibledave 2 года назад

      @@G.Aaron.Fisher Or you can use Geometry which I find easier.

  • @BlueFlash215
    @BlueFlash215 2 года назад +1

    Never did this and never do it again: first