Fun Fact: A vehicle is considered SOLD when it is shipped from the production plant to the dealer. It is not sales at the dealership. That is why you see inventory filling up the lots. The more the manufacturer ships to the dealer, they can be COUNTED as sold, not the other way around. It is just a play on statistics. There are lies, damn lies, then statistics. Cheers.
I can say that I go to the auto mall here in southern Ontario every couple of weeks just to see if the inventory is moving and I am shocked to see new inventory every time I go so I have to assume these things are selling and most of the stuff is selling at the $100,000.00 area. Truly shocked but this is what I am seeing.
Wow! Really if the dealerships buy hundreds of vehicles without selling them to the customers it's considered sold? If this is true then, it can be said that all 100% of sales reports by manufacturers are complete and total Lies! I believe that they only know how to spread lies to influence uneducated consumers into hurrying up and make a purchase! I really hope that they go broke and out of business!!
yup they are channel stuffing... sooner or later the piper is going to be paid.. Might sound a wee bit conspiratorial but methinks it is being done to puff up the Harris campaign
@@4g63t8 good question but I only found out a week or two after he purchased it. And to make matters worse yesterday afternoon he told me he has two months behind on his payments as work has slowed down (construction)
Believe it! There are countless morons out there that no nothing but living in constant debt. These are the type of people who will be working well into their 80s. I’m 51 and have zero debt. I was taught at early age to live below my mean. 51 no mortgage, no car payment, no credit card debt. I won’t be one of those fools working forever
I hate to say it my friend, it’s been that way for a while. I used to think most people were smart with a few dumb ones but it turns out to be the other way around. I am just waiting for the market to implode and hopefully scoop something up like a Raptor, but their prices have been stubbornly high even for used.
@@Sam-M7way better off driving what you have and save cash for a new one. No I’ll finance. Probably not buying new at these prices. The manufacturers are trying to starve us out lol
Yea I’m with you Chevy has lost their mind I won’t pay that much for a turbo four. I wouldn’t pay these prices if it came with a v8 There is a crash coming I remember when we saw this in home prices in 2007 it’s a huge bubble building. it will break the buyers who sign up for these prices and payments.
Yup I drive a 32 year old truck had it since I was 16 I’m 28 now 92 Ford F250 has 689,752 miles and still going and daily driven I’d rather fix it or if the motor goes swap in a new one then pay a crap ton for a new truck!
@@pmscalisiyeah and at 84 months at 9%plus your gonna be paying 20k in interest ….60 months max if the payments too high for you hold off a year and save more money for a bigger down payment….i remember when banks started doing 6 year loans back in the early 2000’s
If he finances it for 60 months with today's crazy interest rates, he's looking at way over $1,000 a month payments. When I bought my car in 2016, I was only making $275 a month payments for 18 months and the car was done. I put down the biggest down payment I could afford. I can't put up with car related debt. It was paid off in full before 2018.
3 years ago my son got a used 2007 Silverado certified for $3,000 . No issues at all , but a small steering fluid leak It's running strong & a good truck . He's going to drive it until the engine dies. 😂
I was looking at used low mileage trucks two years ago but could not pay 35 to 45k for a nice truck so I spent about $1500 on my 2009 F150 which has been paid for for years and kept it going. My truck has 320K miles and is weaker than when newer but it still gets the job done. I'll keep it until the wheels fall off!
You are smart for doing that. I have friends who went out and bought all these fancy rigs the last few years, and now are struggling. If the economy gets worse, they are going to be in a world of hurt. I would much rather know I can pay for the roof over my head and groceries, than be in debt up to my ears to impress people I don’t even know.
Pricing is beyond ridiculous Mark, corporate greed fueled by inflation! I still cannot believe people are financing these expensive vehicle's! The quality is poor overall, these new vehicle's are being made to be more disposable then ever! Crazy to see these sales numbers, cost of living crises continues, North America is on the verge of another Great Depression! Thank you for preparing another informative video Mark, take care, cheers!
A 2019 single cab Silverado long bed 4x4 (work truck trim) msrp was $33,000 and it came with a 5.3 liter v8. That exact same truck with a 2.7 4 cylinder engine is now $56,000. SMH X10
These manufacturers are flipping the script, selling a smaller engine and saving on materials decrease while charging a higher price. Higher profit margin with a diminished product. Insane.
I snagged an old truck for $1250 and had it for 5 years before it had a failure not worth repairing. $1200 in maintenance for 5 years of use. I sold it for 800$ scrap metal cost. It was a 94 and there is not a single one like it for sale period. Forced to look at 2000-2009 model years now and it doesn’t look good. 5 times the price, less reliable, more electronics, cost more to fix and less likely you can do it. Quite sad to see such a great vehicle era coming to an end. The cheapest truck you can buy that is still decent is 5k. That has a lot to do with having to buy newer to avoid a vehicle that won’t last 5 years. They don’t make like they used too 🤷♂️
Thats cause this is the only channel who doesn't actually know what's going on. The market is in a critical situation and is collapsing thats why they are keeping prices high to suck up as much money as they can before its over.The used car market already made huge corrections and buy next year you will see the actual collapse. Followed by bailouts or shutdowns.
So you buy a truck for 100k, miss a few payments, get it repossessed, now the bank has something worth 40k for the 100k they laid out to the dealers.. Dealers love it
Anybody with half a brain understands that a brand new vehicle is the worst investment to make , but on that note if nobody bought a brand new vehicle we would not enjoy the benefits of their mistakes . lol
Why? I traded in for a new SUV. I hate the used car market, you can get royally screwed. My car comes with a decent warranty and I will drive the wheels off of it.
@@trancendental5373 Hello ,By all means if one can afford to buy a brand new vehicle cool ,but for the rest of us we look at the financial aspects and the Pros vs Cons, such things as tax's , freight , depreciation , unnecessary features , production recalls and many more hidden little cash grabs , these add up to huge money , I have been driving since 1978 , never had a brand new vehicle ,why , because I don't need the latest gimmicks which have nothing to do with safe dependable A-B transportation , conclusion , A vehicle and Home are the 2 biggest financial concerns , New homes are also made poorly
I have about a grand or so in repairs for my old 97 Chevy truck (AC, oil leaks and such) 🛻 But looking at what just a couple of payments on a $60K new truck would be, it’s a no brainer. 🤨 💸💸 My appointment to get everything fixed is Wednesday. 👍🏻 Besides sales to fleets, many dealers are buying the trucks to sell them as “used” even though they are technically “new”. Plus there are people buying these trucks that can’t really afford them. Won’t be long before a lot of these will be repossessed.
Hey everyone! . If you're thinking of buying a new vehicle in Canada, here's a quick breakdown of the taxes you'll be paying in each province Provincial Tax Breakdown Alberta: Only 5% GST (no PST) British Columbia: 5% GST + 7% PST = 12% total tax Manitoba: 5% GST + 7% PST = 12% total tax New Brunswick: 15% HST (combined GST + PST) Newfoundland and Labrador: 15% HST (combined GST + PST) Nova Scotia: 15% HST (combined GST + PST) Ontario: 13% HST (combined GST + PST) Prince Edward Island: 15% HST (combined GST + PST) Quebec: 5% GST + 9.975% QST = 14.975% total tax Saskatchewan: 5% GST + 6% PST = 11% total tax Northwest Territories, Nunavut, Yukon: Only 5% GST
Amazing. People walk in, willing to pay high prices.... Charge them as much as they're willing to pay. Until this changes, the game continues. See it with Carvana. Dummies buying online, like door dash or an Uber eats. Maybe some the auto makers can raise the prices to an an $150k/vehicle.. Dummies go for it. Impulse buying. Same going on with voting these days. Impulse voting. Vote on feelings, rather than content. As a former engineer, a lot of things don't make sense anymore. Maybe that's why there are sooo many people on psychotic drugs now.
I don’t think so, doesn’t matter if it’s Chrysler Ford, or General Motors, it’s fleet sales, it’s not personal individuals buying the pick ups to put in their garage. It’s companies buying 20-30 trucks at a clip. The big three cooked their books still look good.
Almost 30,000 vehicles per day are being repossessed and the majority that know that they can't make the payments do not at all take care of. Many are ran into the ground. huge losses, many are going no bid because of the money that would have to put into them to be sellable.
Mark you need to do a price comparison video, you can buy this 100k truck or you can buy a Porsche Boxster , a corvette stingray for 10k less , a Land Rover, a Mercedes roadster or a very well equipped Lexus GX. It’s ridiculous how out of touch the pricing is!!
Management of GM,Ford, Toyota thank you for paying their outrageous prices while cashing their multi million paychecks! It is not the workers who are making the money, it is the management!
I think you should look at all of the recalls as some are big items that will tie up your truck/vehicle for some time. Ford suckin in valves, transmissions that are shifting to 1st gear at hiway speeds, leaky injectors. And that is just Ford. Even a Japanese brand has to do engine swaps due to bad engines. I get that there will be some recalls, but these are big expensive recalls.
Just about every GMC dealer I have called about a Sierra pick up and ask for an out the door price; the price they give goes right back up to the exact MSRP after their “incentives” of about $10K off MSRP. What a joke 🤦🏽♂️
I bought a basic 2019 f150 stx new for 38k and put my own mods into it and built what I wanted for far less than I could at any dealership. Zero issues so far and it’s almost paid off. Keeping it until the wheels fall off
The way truck prices are i would rather go find a 5 decade 4x4 without all these bells & whistles that i can service myself than spend 60 grand and up for a truck that you can't afford to make payments on! This is nuts!
I absolutely love my 1995 Dodge Cummins with the manual transmission! It's completely paid off, the annual tax is about $50, and insurance is only around $150 every six months. Plus, it has the power to pull any load I need to haul. And I would not hesitate to embark on a cross-country road trip from North Carolina to California and back, with just enough money for fuel and food. Some of these new trucks remind me of the Navstar 6.0 Ford motor that I would not drive across the state of North Carolina without a credit line big enough to replace the motor at some point. If I were to buy a new truck, I'd be making monthly payments for years. Instead, I can put that same amount of money into savings. With the low operating costs of my current truck (taxes, maintenance, fuel, insurance), it's almost like driving it for free for the rest of its life - especially since it has a million-mile motor! I'm perfectly content with my current truck and have no plans to buy a new one. Even if truck prices were cut in half, I wouldn't be interested. My budget for a new truck simply doesn't align with the current market, capping out at around $30,000 to $40,000. There's a massive untapped market for a manufacturer willing to offer a no-frills, 2-door or 4-door truck with a manual transmission priced in the $30,000 to $40,000 range. Demand would far outstrip supply, and established truck brands like Ford would see their sales plummet like a comet getting pulled into a black hole. Ford and other manufacturers have inadvertently cornered themselves. If they introduce a reasonably priced truck in 2025 or 2026 it'll drastically devalue their current overpriced inventory, leaving them with trucks that either rust away unsold or are forced into bulk sales to entities like the government, who are essentially spending other people's money (taxpayer money).
The pricing sucks for sure. But newer cars in general do last longer then older cars in terms of milage. Studies are out for them already. It has come with a massive incress in cost to maintain and complexity that has hurt the home mechanic life.
I got a really good deal on my 2024 GMC sierra 1500 elevation but I purchased it in Dec of 2023. The same truck is way more expensive today. They raised prices and they aren't offering the same incentives that they were offering in Dec 2023.
Plus Dodge/Stellantis should have keep the Hemi V8 engines as a option for people who still want them !! They just should have Re-engineer them for more efficiency and power !!!🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸💪💪
Companies trucks are selling alot still in southern Ontario. Local truck accessory place has 100's in there lot prepping to be delivered . 55000 for a regular cab work truck is crazy !!
Lots are one of two things, full or empty depending on the brand. The full lots are the brands pretending everything is fine and not reducing production. The empty lots are the realistic brands that can read the room.
In Rams defense, I must say, I visited my local ram dealership two weeks ago for service. And they only 2025s on their lot. The salesman said all 2324’s are long gone. And they were dealing on the 25s. And I realized, you can still get a brand new 2025 for $50,000 or less. It depends on how you option it out. if you do not need the motor, the big wheels, the big center console, and leather seats, etc. You can get a well equipped ram for 50 grand. My dealership had plenty of them the Jews from. The most expensive option is the four-wheel-drive and trim packages. Most people do not need 4 Wheel Drive! You can still get a lot of full-size truck for $50,000. You can’t just go by what’s on the dealer lot you may have to order it.
People who buy they are trading in. Because an f150 hold value pretty decent. If you trade in one around 30 to 40k in value. After you drove it for 4 or 5 years. You just take that price off the 70 or 80 k. And now you're just buying a truck for 30 to 50k again. And that's not so bad. Include the possible tax deductions in hybrids or electric trucks. And you could get it done around 30 to 40k. 4 year pay off for 30k is about 625 a month. Add a modest down payment of 10k and now you're as little as 416 a month. Is it smart to take a payment plan? No, but hardly anyone is dropping full cash on these now. It'd be nice if they got the price back down to the 30 to 50k range for a fully loaded ride.
I have a 2013 XLT Super Crew and a 2014 Gen1 Raptor. I don't plan on buying another new car for the rest of my natural life. Prices are unreal. Best thing about my trucks...they're paid off.
Some (many) idiots are taking the windfall profits made on housing (simply by owning a house) and doing equity takeouts to buy their "dream" truck. They will likely find out the difference between dreams and nightmares.
I'll give GM credit at least you walk on the lot and you can get a V8 you walk on a Ford lot you're lucky if you can find a V8 in a sea of eco boost crap. But the prices in the Carflation the dealers will get desperate just give it time for the pot to simmer more and soon it will boil over. And dealers will get very desperate and offer the insane incentives just to get people through the door.
I still own my 1989 Chevy k2500, new it was a little over 17k, my pay back then was maybe 15k a year..now it only has 50k miles in it…it’s not perfect, but it well paid off…and I’ll not even look at replacing it!
I have a 2000 suburban ls. Paid $38,000 with tax and tags. Held it as long as can, now need new one. Will be 70-80 thousand without tax and tags, plus ridiculous insurance. Need to work more overtime.
with online wholesale price is open to the public, the dealers decided to play the this game i will just charge extra add ons. take it or leave it mindset.
I don't drive a truck but if I were going to get one I think I would look for a good used Toyota Tacoma or Tundra. We had a 2004 Tacoma at my job that was used as a worktruck that teceived virtually no maintenance but yet ran reliably with no issues.
I bought a 2018 Ram 1500 quad cab hemi (new old stock in 2019) WITHOUT navigation, leather seats, 4X4, sunroof because of budget constraints. I have paid that off and will NOT be buying a new truck anytime soon.
Bought 4 year extended warranty on my 2021 RAM TRX 702 hp monster , full out warranty for 3,000 .00 Canadian . Cheap to keep my truck which I love till 2028 😂 love it , and wow new 1/2 less the truck for 104,000 ya nope !!!! Oh and paid for in full , bye bye banks 😂😂😂
Prices aren't coming down even though the market is rejecting these prices because the debt market is expanding at an ever-increasing rate. In other words, more money printing is causing existing currency to become less valuable. Assets are not changing in value, it's how many dollars are required to buy them. Keep borrowing America. The Fed/BoC will continue to squeeze everyone who isn't fully leveraged. Everyone thinks lower rates will help them, but in fact, it's the poison that put people in this position in the first place.
U mean they are going to scrap the vehicles because they get cheap money to survive so they don't need to sell or produce wealth so instead. They steal
Great video. In my opinion, trucks have not been "trucks" since at some point, they started coming with leather seats and entertainment system. Never was the intention of a work vehicle. People are drawn to these amenities like fish are drawn to "shiny" things in the murky waters of our current economy. Cheers 🍻...
I am 70 and in past recessions dealers or the manufacturers cut prices tremendously to move product. I might be tempted to buy if they do that. For now I will just sit and wait.
These trucks are stacking up even on the Toyota lot in my area. My dealer has Tacoma's and Tundra's coming out their ears. If you consider the amount of credit card debt, debt default, interest rates, inflation and what most people make bring home it doesn't add up.
7:35 Make a video series of you getting chased around! 4:04 those white trucks and vans are usually bought bby companies bas work trucks. A bunch of them are bought by oilfield companies.
Absolute Insanity!!! People are fools! I make $87k Literally can NOT afford Groceries let alone new vehicle. I’ll be driving my 2016 Wrangler unlimited till the wheels fall off.
If you placed all the upgrades/options on the ground between a base truck and a supposed “luxury” truck most people would be shocked at how little it amounts to. Anything electronic is particularly lucrative in mark-up. It’s all about marketing.
Just bought 2024 Ford F150 Lariat 4x4 Rapid Red with the black package. Dual exhaust, 3.5 ecoboost, pro acces tailgate. Leather interior. Love it. 61K out the door. They are selling. Household income 200K a year. It’s not all doom and gloom for everybody. It’s a free market. Don’t like the prices, don’t buy it. Simple
0:42 How much we wanna bet those "chrome" handles are just sticker/decal/paint over plastic... Super fun to watch "chrome" peel off in -40 degree winters...
“Just screwed?” More accurately, it should be said “continues to screw the customer”. Given the problems that are cropping up at lower and lower mileages on the modern light trucks, it is actually much worse than just high purchase prices. Engines and transmissions are failing at alarming rates in trucks that are being well maintained! Everyone who has purchased or leased one of these vehicles should fully understand that they need to check fluid levels at least twice a week or at every other fuel stop! It doesn’t matter how great you think your truck was engineered or built, when it starts to lose transmission fluid, motor oil or coolant it is not going to get many miles down the road before shit starts burning up.
It’s these BATA men. They just look at monthly payment. What use to be a $60k truck $800/month for 60 months is Now $800/ month for 84 months. They don’t care they just WANT IT NOW. Their lack of ability to defer gratification costs the rest of us
I bought a Ford Ranger 4x4 4Liter V6 in 2011 new . Still have it no problems 123.000 miles . Bought a F150 2.7 new in 2018 . No problems. Still have both and I don’t think I’ll buy any more trucks. Mine is paid up . Both work fine. And I do not want any more debt in the future. I regularly service both and take care of both trucks vet well . And that’s that’s . I’m NOT paying nowadays stupid dumb prices and get into debt. No 😂
We should literally all have the most reliable vehicles, the metallurgy and engineering capabilities are all developed to produce vehicles that can last 40 years with minimal maintenance IF the global objective wasn’t for us to own nothing and be happy little peasants
Fun Fact: A vehicle is considered SOLD when it is shipped from the production plant to the dealer. It is not sales at the dealership. That is why you see inventory filling up the lots. The more the manufacturer ships to the dealer, they can be COUNTED as sold, not the other way around. It is just a play on statistics. There are lies, damn lies, then statistics. Cheers.
True. I also think you underestimate the stupidity of people.
@@mjmohn I heard that before
I can say that I go to the auto mall here in southern Ontario every couple of weeks just to see if the inventory is moving and I am shocked to see new inventory every time I go so I have to assume these things are selling and most of the stuff is selling at the $100,000.00 area. Truly shocked but this is what I am seeing.
Wow! Really if the dealerships buy hundreds of vehicles without selling them to the customers it's considered sold? If this is true then, it can be said that all 100% of sales reports by manufacturers are complete and total Lies! I believe that they only know how to spread lies to influence uneducated consumers into hurrying up and make a purchase! I really hope that they go broke and out of business!!
yup they are channel stuffing... sooner or later the piper is going to be paid.. Might sound a wee bit conspiratorial but methinks it is being done to puff up the Harris campaign
My friend has a 2024 F150 platinum. His monthly payment is $1900. He’s always crying because he doesn’t have money for beer.
Not even a 250
Where were you when he bought it?! Friends don’t let friends do that to themselves.
@@4g63t8 good question but I only found out a week or two after he purchased it. And to make matters worse yesterday afternoon he told me he has two months behind on his payments as work has slowed down (construction)
How do you even get approved for that much but can't afford beer? That seems a bit off..
😂 wow, not smart.
I cannot believe people would go into debt for these depreciating overpriced liabilities. If they are society has reached a new level of stupidity.
Believe it! There are countless morons out there that no nothing but living in constant debt. These are the type of people who will be working well into their 80s. I’m 51 and have zero debt. I was taught at early age to live below my mean. 51 no mortgage, no car payment, no credit card debt. I won’t be one of those fools working forever
@@josephkelleher8820 my thoughts exactly
I hate to say it my friend, it’s been that way for a while. I used to think most people were smart with a few dumb ones but it turns out to be the other way around. I am just waiting for the market to implode and hopefully scoop something up like a Raptor, but their prices have been stubbornly high even for used.
Somebody has to buy this stuff for you to buy it used. Like it or not, you’re part of the cycle.
@@Sam-M7way better off driving what you have and save cash for a new one. No I’ll finance. Probably not buying new at these prices. The manufacturers are trying to starve us out lol
80k for a 4 cylinder truck. Uh...what? Absolutely ridiculous.
There’s one born every minute…
Yea I’m with you Chevy has lost their mind I won’t pay that much for a turbo four. I wouldn’t pay these prices if it came with a v8 There is a crash coming I remember when we saw this in home prices in 2007 it’s a huge bubble building. it will break the buyers who sign up for these prices and payments.
than someone will sell it used and have 100k miles on it for 40k.....
I can't believe people are buying them for that much.
Madness
And this is why I'm still driving a 20 year old truck
Like they say"cheaper to keep her".😉
I am with you, my 2013 GMC Sierra is paid for, and I am keeping ut too.
Mine's a 2007 Cummins. It'll outlast me. The stop/stall nonsense really upsets me.
Yup I drive a 32 year old truck had it since I was 16 I’m 28 now 92 Ford F250 has 689,752 miles and still going and daily driven I’d rather fix it or if the motor goes swap in a new one then pay a crap ton for a new truck!
I really wann get a colorado or tacoma but used prices on both are absurd.
$60,000 for a work truck? To own that truck over 48 months, $1,250 before taxes, interest, and maintenance. Come on, that is simply ridiculous.
They do 84 month financing now.
@@pmscalisiyeah and at 84 months at 9%plus your gonna be paying 20k in interest ….60 months max if the payments too high for you hold off a year and save more money for a bigger down payment….i remember when banks started doing 6 year loans back in the early 2000’s
If he finances it for 60 months with today's crazy interest rates, he's looking at way over $1,000 a month payments. When I bought my car in 2016, I was only making $275 a month payments for 18 months and the car was done. I put down the biggest down payment I could afford. I can't put up with car related debt. It was paid off in full before 2018.
100 grand for a truck that spys on you and other people on the road and tell your ins comp fuck that wake up people
I doubt anyone is buying, these companies are cooking the books for their investors for all we know.
Yes there is a lot of that going on g on for sure
The government is cooking them Books for sure lol
They're not selling...they're lying to us....some kind of psychological mind games they're playing
Brother, stay ahead of the curve!!!
lol don't underestimate the stupidity of many truck buyers 😂
I agree with you. Banks know better than finance a 40K overpriced unit. This is part of the fleecing vehicle dealers have done FOREVER.
Ooyeah they're selling, people are buying them like hot cakes everywhere I see these trucks riding down the highway every model.
The stealerships register them although they haven't actually sold them and the smart people lease these money pits
I wonder how many of them will end up going back to the bank.
3 years ago my son got a used 2007 Silverado certified for $3,000 .
No issues at all , but a small steering fluid leak
It's running strong & a good truck .
He's going to drive it until the engine dies. 😂
Transmission first.
@@drz400sm5 worth fixing!
Still cheaper to put new engine in his truck!
I was looking at used low mileage trucks two years ago but could not pay 35 to 45k for a nice truck so I spent about $1500 on my 2009 F150 which has been paid for for years and kept it going. My truck has 320K miles and is weaker than when newer but it still gets the job done. I'll keep it until the wheels fall off!
You are smart for doing that. I have friends who went out and bought all these fancy rigs the last few years, and now are struggling. If the economy gets worse, they are going to be in a world of hurt. I would much rather know I can pay for the roof over my head and groceries, than be in debt up to my ears to impress people I don’t even know.
$70 -$80k for a half ton truck, what are people thinking 🤔 🙄 😅
Dirt cheap, bought two this year myself ..
That's double,what I paid in 22 for a 21. F 150 super cab 8ft 5 liter v8. Just for comparison.
@nealamesbury7953 smart man that doesn't waste his money and a good truck
I just bought a high country for around 80 k and I love it 😀 if you can’t afford it buy something you can geez 🙄
Mainly guys.
Pricing is beyond ridiculous Mark, corporate greed fueled by inflation! I still cannot believe people are financing these expensive vehicle's! The quality is poor overall, these new vehicle's are being made to be more disposable then ever! Crazy to see these sales numbers, cost of living crises continues, North America is on the verge of another Great Depression! Thank you for preparing another informative video Mark, take care, cheers!
You are spot on
This is why everyone is so poor and no one can afford to retire. Vehicles cost 100k+ every couple years. Constant Debt cycle!
Just go by an used Toyota p/u you be happier
People are crazy 🤪 😜 😳
People need to be realistic and know the difference between needs and wants,,only fleets need new trucks, not the general public
I mean....spending 75 bucks for only one bag of groceries doesn't help either.
Who’s buying a vehicle every couple years?
A 2019 single cab Silverado long bed 4x4 (work truck trim) msrp was $33,000 and it came with a 5.3 liter v8. That exact same truck with a 2.7 4 cylinder engine is now $56,000. SMH X10
Its totally outrageous
These manufacturers are flipping the script, selling a smaller engine and saving on materials decrease while charging a higher price. Higher profit margin with a diminished product. Insane.
They’re asking large amounts of money for these vehicles because ppl are buying them.
Don’t buy and you’ll see prices drop like a rock.
There’s a fool born every minute so don’t expect anything to change
I snagged an old truck for $1250 and had it for 5 years before it had a failure not worth repairing. $1200 in maintenance for 5 years of use. I sold it for 800$ scrap metal cost. It was a 94 and there is not a single one like it for sale period. Forced to look at 2000-2009 model years now and it doesn’t look good. 5 times the price, less reliable, more electronics, cost more to fix and less likely you can do it. Quite sad to see such a great vehicle era coming to an end. The cheapest truck you can buy that is still decent is 5k. That has a lot to do with having to buy newer to avoid a vehicle that won’t last 5 years. They don’t make like they used too 🤷♂️
This is the only channel that says sales are up while other channels are chanting a collapse is coming.
I call out the numbers
💯 agree. There is no market crash . Dealers are patient and wil wait for the big whale buyers. Plus the dumb wannabe ballers.
It's almost as if these channels are saying whatever will get views...
No dealers are going out of business around me
Thats cause this is the only channel who doesn't actually know what's going on. The market is in a critical situation and is collapsing thats why they are keeping prices high to suck up as much money as they can before its over.The used car market already made huge corrections and buy next year you will see the actual collapse. Followed by bailouts or shutdowns.
So you buy a truck for 100k, miss a few payments, get it repossessed, now the bank has something worth 40k for the 100k they laid out to the dealers.. Dealers love it
Yes but dealers are eliminating customers in the future who cant finance a new car because they have a repo on their credit for short term gain now
@@BC3485 Dealers don't care about next year. It's not like the old days.
Anybody with half a brain understands that a brand new vehicle is the worst investment to make , but on that note if nobody bought a brand new vehicle we would not enjoy the benefits of their mistakes . lol
Why? I traded in for a new SUV. I hate the used car market, you can get royally screwed. My car comes with a decent warranty and I will drive the wheels off of it.
Vehicles are not an investment, they are a liability! huge difference.
@@stevejonescriticalthought7633 yeah but he said it's a mistake to buy a new vehicle. Not if you can afford it
@@trancendental5373 Hello ,By all means if one can afford to buy a brand new vehicle cool ,but for the rest of us we look at the financial aspects and the Pros vs Cons, such things as tax's , freight , depreciation , unnecessary features , production recalls and many more hidden little cash grabs , these add up to huge money , I have been driving since 1978 , never had a brand new vehicle ,why , because I don't need the latest gimmicks which have nothing to do with safe dependable A-B transportation , conclusion , A vehicle and Home are the 2 biggest financial concerns , New homes are also made poorly
I have about a grand or so in repairs for my old 97 Chevy truck (AC, oil leaks and such) 🛻
But looking at what just a couple of payments on a $60K new truck would be, it’s a no brainer. 🤨 💸💸
My appointment to get everything fixed is Wednesday. 👍🏻
Besides sales to fleets, many dealers are buying the trucks to sell them as “used” even though they are technically “new”.
Plus there are people buying these trucks that can’t really afford them. Won’t be long before a lot of these will be repossessed.
Same thing I tell my wife every time I spend money to fix my 20 year old cummins ram. Cheaper to keep her.
Hey everyone! . If you're thinking of buying a new vehicle in Canada, here's a quick breakdown of the taxes you'll be paying in each province
Provincial Tax Breakdown
Alberta: Only 5% GST (no PST)
British Columbia: 5% GST + 7% PST = 12% total tax
Manitoba: 5% GST + 7% PST = 12% total tax
New Brunswick: 15% HST (combined GST + PST)
Newfoundland and Labrador: 15% HST (combined GST + PST)
Nova Scotia: 15% HST (combined GST + PST)
Ontario: 13% HST (combined GST + PST)
Prince Edward Island: 15% HST (combined GST + PST)
Quebec: 5% GST + 9.975% QST = 14.975% total tax
Saskatchewan: 5% GST + 6% PST = 11% total tax
Northwest Territories, Nunavut, Yukon: Only 5% GST
Thank you for sharing as this is Canadian market lingo
Don't forget un Ontario , any vechicle over 100000 gets a luxury tax as well of 20 percent on the amount of 100 000 and that's on top of the 13%
Great advice from a multi-millionaire, I heard a number of years ago… “if you can’t afford 5 you shouldn’t buy 1!”
Why?
Amazing. People walk in, willing to pay high prices.... Charge them as much as they're willing to pay. Until this changes, the game continues. See it with Carvana. Dummies buying online, like door dash or an Uber eats. Maybe some the auto makers can raise the prices to an an $150k/vehicle.. Dummies go for it. Impulse buying. Same going on with voting these days. Impulse voting. Vote on feelings, rather than content. As a former engineer, a lot of things don't make sense anymore. Maybe that's why there are sooo many people on psychotic drugs now.
MARK YOU DO A GREAT JOB EXPLAINING ALL THE INS AND OUTS ON THESE VEHICLES.. KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK. EVERYONE STAY SAFE AND ENJOY LIFE.
I don’t think so, doesn’t matter if it’s Chrysler Ford, or General Motors, it’s fleet sales, it’s not personal individuals buying the pick ups to put in their garage. It’s companies buying 20-30 trucks at a clip. The big three cooked their books still look good.
Buying is up but so are Repo's
Yes big time
Almost 30,000 vehicles per day are being repossessed and the majority that know that they can't make the payments do not at all take care of. Many are ran into the ground. huge losses, many are going no bid because of the money that would have to put into them to be sellable.
Anyone with a brain isn't buying. It's not hard to sell to 480 credit score.
Desperation buying! Why else would anyone pay that kind of price.
People love to show off their new vehicles because of low self esteem while they can't afford their other bills like mortgage
I would rather buy a used Tundra or Tacoma than anything new
Mark you need to do a price comparison video, you can buy this 100k truck or you can buy a Porsche Boxster , a corvette stingray for 10k less , a Land Rover, a Mercedes roadster or a very well equipped Lexus GX. It’s ridiculous how out of touch the pricing is!!
Management of GM,Ford, Toyota thank you for paying their outrageous prices while cashing their multi million paychecks!
It is not the workers who are making the money, it is the management!
The average buyer is uninformed Mark
I think he's in Canada, maybe a little higher than in the USA.
I think you should look at all of the recalls as some are big items that will tie up your truck/vehicle for some time. Ford suckin in valves, transmissions that are shifting to 1st gear at hiway speeds, leaky injectors. And that is just Ford. Even a Japanese brand has to do engine swaps due to bad engines. I get that there will be some recalls, but these are big expensive recalls.
Exactly
Just about every GMC dealer I have called about a Sierra pick up and ask for an out the door price; the price they give goes right back up to the exact MSRP after their “incentives” of about $10K off MSRP. What a joke 🤦🏽♂️
I bought a basic 2019 f150 stx new for 38k and put my own mods into it and built what I wanted for far less than I could at any dealership. Zero issues so far and it’s almost paid off. Keeping it until the wheels fall off
The way truck prices are i would rather go find a 5 decade 4x4 without all these bells & whistles that i can service myself than spend 60 grand and up for a truck that you can't afford to make payments on! This is nuts!
I absolutely love my 1995 Dodge Cummins with the manual transmission! It's completely paid off, the annual tax is about $50, and insurance is only around $150 every six months. Plus, it has the power to pull any load I need to haul. And I would not hesitate to embark on a cross-country road trip from North Carolina to California and back, with just enough money for fuel and food. Some of these new trucks remind me of the Navstar 6.0 Ford motor that I would not drive across the state of North Carolina without a credit line big enough to replace the motor at some point.
If I were to buy a new truck, I'd be making monthly payments for years. Instead, I can put that same amount of money into savings. With the low operating costs of my current truck (taxes, maintenance, fuel, insurance), it's almost like driving it for free for the rest of its life - especially since it has a million-mile motor!
I'm perfectly content with my current truck and have no plans to buy a new one. Even if truck prices were cut in half, I wouldn't be interested. My budget for a new truck simply doesn't align with the current market, capping out at around $30,000 to $40,000.
There's a massive untapped market for a manufacturer willing to offer a no-frills, 2-door or 4-door truck with a manual transmission priced in the $30,000 to $40,000 range. Demand would far outstrip supply, and established truck brands like Ford would see their sales plummet like a comet getting pulled into a black hole.
Ford and other manufacturers have inadvertently cornered themselves. If they introduce a reasonably priced truck in 2025 or 2026 it'll drastically devalue their current overpriced inventory, leaving them with trucks that either rust away unsold or are forced into bulk sales to entities like the government, who are essentially spending other people's money (taxpayer money).
" paid off " is the main ingredient that works
I'm still 1/2 ton truck shopping in central and Northern Alberta...it's crazy
Me too.
Absolutely right! Thanks for keeping an eye on the market for us.
Overpaying for a modern car that won’t last up to 100K miles is baffling to me
The pricing sucks for sure. But newer cars in general do last longer then older cars in terms of milage. Studies are out for them already. It has come with a massive incress in cost to maintain and complexity that has hurt the home mechanic life.
I'll keep my 2014 Ford F 150 Limited. I bought used 5
years ago for $27K with 56,000 miles on it.
I can believe u paid 15,000 but 5,000.🤣🤣🤣🤣
$100000 for something that can’t have a transmission dipstick, and that is made to fail, no way I’m spending this kind of money for this kind of junk
Indeed do t blame you. Sounds like a losing proposition
The turbo max engine is a 2.7l turbo I4 cylinder. NOT A V6.
Depends on the vehicle.
Oh, and Jesus is a fictional character.
I got a really good deal on my 2024 GMC sierra 1500 elevation but I purchased it in Dec of 2023. The same truck is way more expensive today. They raised prices and they aren't offering the same incentives that they were offering in Dec 2023.
insane. these car companies forgot about the middle class. sad.
They have indeed
Don't worry. The dealers have you covered. They have 10-year financing.
Too bad they don't last 10 years lol so many new trucks falling apart with recalls and electronic issues a few months later
Plus Dodge/Stellantis should have keep the Hemi V8 engines as a option for people who still want them !! They just should have Re-engineer them for more efficiency and power !!!🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸💪💪
Gas prices are going up. It's nice to have a hybrid awd 4k towing, but you are correct prices are ridiculous!
Agreed!
$ 225,000.00 plus tax for a 2024 Freightliner Cascadia with a DD15 diesel engine (10 wheels tractor to pull semi-trailers)
From 2013 -2020 I bought 6 brand new f150s. With these prices I totally stopped. I currently drive a Subaru Outback to do my truck needs
Companies trucks are selling alot still in southern Ontario.
Local truck accessory place has 100's in there lot prepping to be delivered .
55000 for a regular cab work truck is crazy !!
Lmaooo..Ford pushed the Maverick as the 20 grand pickup when it hit the market. 🤷🏽♂️
Scam artists
Ah bullshit
Lots are one of two things, full or empty depending on the brand. The full lots are the brands pretending everything is fine and not reducing production. The empty lots are the realistic brands that can read the room.
In Rams defense, I must say, I visited my local ram dealership two weeks ago for service. And they only 2025s on their lot. The salesman said all 2324’s are long gone. And they were dealing on the 25s. And I realized, you can still get a brand new 2025 for $50,000 or less. It depends on how you option it out. if you do not need the motor, the big wheels, the big center console, and leather seats, etc. You can get a well equipped ram for 50 grand. My dealership had plenty of them the Jews from. The most expensive option is the four-wheel-drive and trim packages. Most people do not need 4 Wheel Drive! You can still get a lot of full-size truck for $50,000. You can’t just go by what’s on the dealer lot you may have to order it.
People who buy they are trading in. Because an f150 hold value pretty decent. If you trade in one around 30 to 40k in value. After you drove it for 4 or 5 years. You just take that price off the 70 or 80 k. And now you're just buying a truck for 30 to 50k again. And that's not so bad. Include the possible tax deductions in hybrids or electric trucks. And you could get it done around 30 to 40k. 4 year pay off for 30k is about 625 a month. Add a modest down payment of 10k and now you're as little as 416 a month.
Is it smart to take a payment plan? No, but hardly anyone is dropping full cash on these now. It'd be nice if they got the price back down to the 30 to 50k range for a fully loaded ride.
Monthly payment on $90k ?
Plus insurance and maintenance? Wow!!
I have a 2013 XLT Super Crew and a 2014 Gen1 Raptor. I don't plan on buying another new car for the rest of my natural life. Prices are unreal. Best thing about my trucks...they're paid off.
People who pay the ridiculous prices are nuts! Stop buying people. 🤨
Some (many) idiots are taking the windfall profits made on housing (simply by owning a house) and doing equity takeouts to buy their "dream" truck. They will likely find out the difference between dreams and nightmares.
Entirely
RIGHT ON !!!! Completely AGREE, no one can afford SHT
I'll give GM credit at least you walk on the lot and you can get a V8 you walk on a Ford lot you're lucky if you can find a V8 in a sea of eco boost crap. But the prices in the Carflation the dealers will get desperate just give it time for the pot to simmer more and soon it will boil over. And dealers will get very desperate and offer the insane incentives just to get people through the door.
2.7 liter is a turbo 4 cylinder, not V6 as you mentioned...
✅️👍👌
Indeed, still not good
I still own my 1989 Chevy k2500, new it was a little over 17k, my pay back then was maybe 15k a year..now it only has 50k miles in it…it’s not perfect, but it well paid off…and I’ll not even look at replacing it!
I have a 2000 suburban ls. Paid $38,000 with tax and tags. Held it as long as can, now need new one. Will be 70-80 thousand without tax and tags, plus ridiculous insurance. Need to work more overtime.
ridiculous prices.
Go buy used Toyota p/u. Had since 2007
with online wholesale price is open to the public, the dealers decided to play the this game i will just charge extra add ons. take it or leave it mindset.
I don't drive a truck but if I were going to get one I think I would look for a good used Toyota Tacoma or Tundra. We had a 2004 Tacoma at my job that was used as a worktruck that teceived virtually no maintenance but yet ran reliably with no issues.
At least you can live in the 54k dollar van when you can't afford rent.
Unless the police catch you in the van. More and more places don't let people park overnight.
I dont know why people dont buy 90s trucks or older
2:26 the most stupid truck and most stupid price on that ugly thing.
I bought a 2018 Ram 1500 quad cab hemi (new old stock in 2019) WITHOUT navigation, leather seats, 4X4, sunroof because of budget constraints. I have paid that off and will NOT be buying a new truck anytime soon.
Bought 4 year extended warranty on my 2021 RAM TRX 702 hp monster , full out warranty for 3,000 .00 Canadian . Cheap to keep my truck which I love till 2028 😂 love it , and wow new 1/2 less the truck for 104,000 ya nope !!!! Oh and paid for in full , bye bye banks 😂😂😂
Prices aren't coming down even though the market is rejecting these prices because the debt market is expanding at an ever-increasing rate.
In other words, more money printing is causing existing currency to become less valuable. Assets are not changing in value, it's how many dollars are required to buy them.
Keep borrowing America. The Fed/BoC will continue to squeeze everyone who isn't fully leveraged. Everyone thinks lower rates will help them, but in fact, it's the poison that put people in this position in the first place.
Nobody is printing money anymore
U mean they are going to scrap the vehicles because they get cheap money to survive so they don't need to sell or produce wealth so instead. They steal
@@adamsteele6148 You don't have a clue. Google "FRED money supply"
@@adamsteele6148 Google FRED Money Supply and look at what has been happening since 2020.
@adamsteele6148 no government is stealing thru more taxes😊
Felt underwater when I bought my used 07 megacab diesel 8 years ago. Paid it off quick. Looking at today's pricing, i got a steal.
I guess I'm never getting a new truck, thanks ceo's 🤯
Great video.
In my opinion, trucks have not been "trucks" since at some point, they started coming with leather seats and entertainment system.
Never was the intention of a work vehicle.
People are drawn to these amenities like fish are drawn to "shiny" things in the murky waters of our current economy.
Cheers 🍻...
I guess im keeping the old cummins for ever
I am 70 and in past recessions dealers or the manufacturers cut prices tremendously to move product. I might be tempted to buy if they do that. For now I will just sit and wait.
People aren't buying them. Dealerships are buying them. Government agencies are also buying them
Is a Freightliner Pioneer a better truck than the Ford, Chevy, or GMC?
These trucks are stacking up even on the Toyota lot in my area. My dealer has Tacoma's and Tundra's coming out their ears. If you consider the amount of credit card debt, debt default, interest rates, inflation and what most people make bring home it doesn't add up.
Amenities=garbage. Men want an engine wrapped in metal and consider an ashtray and coolish air an amenity that’s what wing windows did.
7:35 Make a video series of you getting chased around!
4:04 those white trucks and vans are usually bought bby companies bas work trucks. A bunch of them are bought by oilfield companies.
Absolute Insanity!!!
People are fools!
I make $87k
Literally can NOT afford Groceries let alone new vehicle. I’ll be driving my 2016 Wrangler unlimited till the wheels fall off.
People caused this silliness
People in alabama pay top dollar for those trucks just to use them as daily commuters, while bitching about the cost of gas.
Hear it all the time. It’s funny in a sad way 🤷🏻♂️
My 2016 2500hd Silverado gas just hit 240,000 miles Zero issues and will be cheaper to get another 250,000 by rebuilding and maintaining it
I checked and dodge 1500 quad cabs are listed for 35k range. Where are you finding these 100000 dollar trucks.
Yup, still driving my 2002 7.3 powerstroke! 27 bucks in repair bills so far, runs better every time I drive it.
If you placed all the upgrades/options on the ground between a base truck and a supposed “luxury” truck most people would be shocked at how little it amounts to. Anything electronic is particularly lucrative in mark-up.
It’s all about marketing.
My 02 ram has never had a recall or major problem. Why? 120k to haul wood and topsoil?
Just bought 2024 Ford F150 Lariat 4x4 Rapid Red with the black package. Dual exhaust, 3.5 ecoboost, pro acces tailgate. Leather interior. Love it. 61K out the door. They are selling. Household income 200K a year. It’s not all doom and gloom for everybody. It’s a free market. Don’t like the prices, don’t buy it. Simple
For those who own older trucks bought years ago, do we get screwed on parts prices too when we fix our trucks? Long time loyalists get no break?
Yes I find older truck parts harder to get and the dealers seem
Less motivated to work on our older trucks
I live in Tennessee and bought a house for half that, and it worth that much now. Vehicles are black holes for money.
Its the taxes & insurance that just kills the market. Yes its also the MSRP
0:42
How much we wanna bet those "chrome" handles are just sticker/decal/paint over plastic...
Super fun to watch "chrome" peel off in -40 degree winters...
“Just screwed?” More accurately, it should be said “continues to screw the customer”. Given the problems that are cropping up at lower and lower mileages on the modern light trucks, it is actually much worse than just high purchase prices. Engines and transmissions are failing at alarming rates in trucks that are being well maintained!
Everyone who has purchased or leased one of these vehicles should fully understand that they need to check fluid levels at least twice a week or at every other fuel stop! It doesn’t matter how great you think your truck was engineered or built, when it starts to lose transmission fluid, motor oil or coolant it is not going to get many miles down the road before shit starts burning up.
And not to mention the new Stellantis TT Hurricane 6CYI engines are having major problems, and Gradating themselves !!!😫😫😫🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Really like your commentary.
Thank you very much
It’s these BATA men. They just look at monthly payment. What use to be a $60k truck $800/month for 60 months is Now $800/ month for 84 months. They don’t care they just WANT IT NOW. Their lack of ability to defer gratification costs the rest of us
I bought a Ford Ranger 4x4 4Liter V6 in 2011 new . Still have it no problems 123.000 miles . Bought a F150 2.7 new in 2018 . No problems. Still have both and I don’t think I’ll buy any more trucks. Mine is paid up . Both work fine. And I do not want any more debt in the future. I regularly service both and take care of both trucks vet well . And that’s that’s . I’m NOT paying nowadays stupid dumb prices and get into debt. No 😂
For $100k it ought to be 100% flawless for 10 years….and that ain’t happening.
Exactly
We should literally all have the most reliable vehicles, the metallurgy and engineering capabilities are all developed to produce vehicles that can last 40 years with minimal maintenance IF the global objective wasn’t for us to own nothing and be happy little peasants
For the long term cloth seats are better than leather.