The OTHER Metal Gear Solid 3
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- Опубликовано: 21 авг 2024
- The one that's really good but also not good
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I'll admit, the "no 3D effect when Snake has eyepatch" factoid is such a Kojima sounding thing that I'd believe it without questioning.
it’s true its a really nice touch
Snake has trouble aiming weapons down sights during the grozny grad sequence directly after losing his eye and will miss just slightly left of crosshairs due to using his non dominant eye.
i mean, it IS real, kind of. the 3d effect works in first person view during gameplay, but it doesn't during first person view cutscenes. for example the butterfly in the cave behind the waterfall, etc.
Yeah I wouldn't be surprised if it was a thing the devs wanted to put in but Nintendo said no because that's the whole selling point of the port/system
@@fauxatlasbut maybe this is already a thing in earlier first person cutscenes
Yoshi must be getting popular in the Soviet Union.
He’s obviously trying to avoid arrest for his tax evasion
In the 60s
@@jamesbrereton only black yoshi got punished for it- wasn't in smash ultimate
But this creates A TIME PARADOX!
Yoshi rides you
This version of the game was the first time I not only played MGS3, but MGS as a whole. I will always remember my favorite camera camo which was of one of my friend’s face that gave me near 100% camo in almost every environment, even the open ground.
I was able to do the same with a jpeg of Waluigi. And later, the Kojima Productions logo. Good times
you captured their soul
@@Rottytoops Nobody notices Waluigi :(
@@Rottytoops Making a KojiPro camo that gives you 100% camo at all times is just so fitting
Same here dude. I was super disappointed when I found out you can’t crouch walk in regular 3.
Snake Eater 3D was the first and only version of MGS3 I ever played. I went through it like 10 times at least, and it's still one of my favorite games of all time.
wanted to comment this EXACT thing, was my 1st, played it at least 10 times, shit was gaaaaas, such a good game and as a kid you didnt really care about framerate
There is a whole world of great games outside of Nintendo consoles, you know )))
@@Sly2Cooper bro stating the obvious💀 I think you're missing the point, me and the dude commenting are clearly talking about a game nostalgic to us, we played this game like, almost ten years ago
@@A8EL I was referring to @despeinado340
He's not the only one here who played MGS3 just because it was finally on a Nintendo console, if you read the comments.
MGS games were available on several other platforms.
I remember driving an hour north to get the only circle pad pro in stock at GameStop just for this game.
Yoshi just being there and everyone is acknowledging him is amazing
Protest for MGS3's multiplayer. $6.9 billion dollar company konami could easily add it. Something so little will bring fans enjoyment for YEARS. Only reason to not include it is so Konami can make more money on a re re released game. Imagine.
@@blackbox5141 who the hell are you talking to
@@seanm746 look! another dense submissive beta gamer that would rather buy the same garbage over and over
@@blackbox5141nobody wants to play that old as boomer shit.
Especially considering yoshi wouldn't even exist in the 60's (mario as a series didn't exist till the 80's and yoshi didn't till the 90's)
I don't play games very often, but I remember finishing MGS3D 13 times over the summer of 2013. Never before had a game captivated me so profoundly.
I love the 3DS remake, makes it feel like Peace Walker and it's sad that it isn't the "definitive version" that gets remade and put on consoles.
I love when hindsight from the future is cool
IIRC, after Snake loses his eye the 3D does get actually disabled for a very specific thing, during the cutscenes that let you change pov to what Snake is seeing with the help of a context sensitive button prompt, usually those scenes can be seen in 3D, right until the point Ocelot shoots Snake's eye off that is, after that I do believe that any time you switch to Snake's pov the 3D gets completely disabled for those moments, at least that's what I remember, it's been a while
This is actually my 3rd most played 3DS game. (Behind Animal crossing, and Pokémon)
Moving while crouching it is one of the features that makes this version one of my favorites , the gameplay is even better than peacewalker because in peace walker you can't move when you are lying on the ground but in Metal Gear Solid 3D you have free movement in any position.
The photo camouflage was really cool and I used it a lot. Sadly it was a bit broken in certain places. I remember getting 100% camouflage when laying prone in the facility you find Raikov.
any kind of brown surfaces gave 100% camouflage, there's a myth and i think it's real where a lot of people from 4chan took picture of their d*** as camo to get 100%
The demo of this version was my introduction to Metal Gear as a whole, I remember my cousins and I would leave our 3DSes on and chargin just to never run out of tries for the demo lol. Playin this on emulator + 60fps patch is prolly my favorite way of playin snake eater both on phone and PC. I really hope the master collection includes the add-ons this version had (crouch walkin and the mgs4 controls) or that hopefully they can be modded in on the steam version
Doubt that will happen. You will have to play the remake for that stuff
This is how I first experienced MGS3. I didn’t notice the performance back then, but man is that 20 fps rough now
This version may be my favorite way to replay the game. I'd NEVER reccomend it as someone's first playthrough, but it's actually fun to play it in 3D with all the added bells and whistles.
To be fair people forget that the PSP's Metal Gear games had similar performance, and they were built specifically for it! I think you can definitely adapt to the low FPS and occasional slowdown. Plus on the New 3DS models it's a little bit more playable. Still low FPS but less slowdown.
Honestly wish the HD collection had MGS4/PW-inspired controls as an option. It's unlikely the new collection will have it, but it'd be nice to see this as an option.
They will make it modern.
@@malik87breaker They won't lol. Konami are lazy when it comes to ports
@@malik87breaker The versions of MGS2 and MGS3 are the exact same as their versions in the HD Collection. They said so themselves. This means that they will NOT include MGS5/PW-style controls and camera.
EDIT: I meant to write "MGS4/PW". I accidentally typed one number over than I meant to.
@@malik87breakerThey're not even including mouse and keyboard support. Doomed.
@@murkywaters5502mgs5 controls simply wouldnt work. Mgs4 had the best setup of any metal gear game. The l2 r2 item weapon menu is essential. The generic gta copycat weapon wheel in 5 is insufferable in any game it appears in and i hope dies.
This is how I played Snake Eater for the first time, and every other version has been ruined for me, since. Circle pad pro was a necessary accessory for playing it though
Plus the added mechanics like walking when crouched made it hard to play the 360 version I went back to it
Same, I could never tolerate the game without the crouch walk. Hopefully, the remake brings it back.
I bought MGS3D just for the ability to play one of the greatest games ever made on the go. I'm glad we'll be able to do the same on the Switch very soon.
I don’t think it’s this version though. It will be the Subsistence
Yeah it is not like the PS Vita version exists..... oh wait... it does and runs better than your 3DS version.
It also better than the Switch. Switch garbage. Period.
@@LUCKO2022You're literally me
@@LUCKO2022doggy, the console wars have been over for nearly 20 years. You're gatekeeping the Vita. I'm not on either portable's side, but the Vita failed compared to the 3DS or especially the Switch. So this one cross-platform game runs better on Vita. Who cares? Enjoy it. Let others enjoy their 3DS version or upcoming Switch version.
I can play whatever version currently exists of MGS3 I want right now on my ROG Ally with enhancemens. I guess that makes the Ally better and the Vita garbage by your logic.
@MailmanRSO
Not gate keeping anything. I am just saying Switch is trash. Maybe if people would stop supporting garbage Nintendo might make a better product.
I played the demo of this so many times because it was rated M and my parents didn’t know
Never actually got the game though
Its super expensive now D:
@@abaque24 I can only imagine, I’m sure the eshop closure didn’t help things either.
Same
@@abaque24Yar Har Har
Well, I guess up to 30 times. Or you reloaded the demo over and over without closing it.
Jon makes such great videos. Always in my wheelhouse. Love this version of MGS3.
As a lifelong Nintendo player, more due to happenstance than brand loyalty, it’s trained me to be incredibly patient with barely functioning software, from the original consoles that only work if the game is in the system at an upturned angle, to motion controls that don’t function, to terrible frame rates, I can stand all of these things, and pretty well at that. I’ve always been a huge MGS fan, and hearing that it could be played on my 2DS was an amazing deal to child me, and I never regretted it, I one hundred percented the game, for like the fiftieth time, and somehow beat it with those camera controls too many times to count. My 2DS has been out of commission for years, and I’ve wanted to play this game on the go, so I’ve considered getting on of the latest models with the camera sticks, but with the switch ports coming out in a few months, I’m really not sure how to proceed. I suppose I’ll play the waiting game when it comes to Snek Consumer, and hope I get lucky with a deal.
You can play the 3DS version overclocked on a modded New3DS and it will stabilize the framerate, but still stuck at 20fps the whole time!
You just have to add a "cheat" and you can get it to 30fps no problem. Makes a massive difference, especially in boss fights. Granted, I have only gotten up to The Pain, but that fight went from being basically unplayable on my first playthrough of the 3DS version to being as smooth as 30fps can get.
are you supposed to do both?
@@Matanumi Yes. To add the "cheat" you have to first softmod your 3DS. Then you can overclock and apply the "cheat" with a few quick button presses (literally takes seconds).
@@nddugas oh, I didn't know about the cheat to set the framerate higher, I'll definitely have to try that out!
I really do hope that the MGS Collection comes out with updated controls, especially for the older MGS games. Plus it will be nice to finally play MGS4 on another system other than PS3.
The 3DS version on the citra emulator in side by side stereoscopic 3D mode on my 4K LG Passive 3D TV is simply amazing! Ive played it at 3D 1080p with my phone clipped to my controller to act bottom touchscreen and damn it is fun.
that sounds amazing
Gaming like it's supposed to be gamed.
My first MGS game that I've passed a couple times. Got the 3ds version for my birthday several years ago. Love this game.
So far, the demo is the only piece of MGS content I’ve ever played. Looking forward to Master Collection to finally give this series a proper go.
Believe me- you won’t regret it!
Well… after the government controlling skeleton AI that isn’t(?) real you might, but… you- you’ll figure it for yourself. The games work best when going in completely blind for the story.
They also turned up the bloom effect on character models, and it looks... okay? Regardless, I've always said this version is really underrated despite its shortcomings. Unfortunate but also unsurprising the Switch won't be getting this version in the Master Collection. In fact, the exclusion of Ape Escape, the demo and secret theaters, as well as the Existence movie means there's still no definitive version of MGS3, and Delta will only complicate this fact, I imagine.
What's the existence movie?
@bigman88george3 When they were re-releasing MGS3 as Subsistence, there was a third disc in the American limited edition release, and I BELIEVE the standard European release, that contained the whole game edited as a couple hour movie for people who couldn't beat it. It's never been rereleased since so it's been trapped in a 480p format for years, and most Americans don't even know it exists, which is such a shame because it's just a nice little bonus
@@noahkeeffe9667 😀That's pretty neat. I don't imagine anyone starting that game and not finishing it, though.
@bigman88george3 literally my dad never found Sokolov so he sold his copy. If no one else, he could use it lol
Snake Eater 3D is like a more tame version of Twin Snakes in practice. Twin Snakes attempted to make playing MGS1 and MGS2 back-to-back have less whiplash by making them mechanically the same, but changing the cinematics left a sour taste in many hardcore fans' mouths.
MGS3D makes playing MGS3, MGSPW, and MGSV have less whiplash and I would say that it would have succeeded had it not been for the 20 fps limit and reduced texture resolution. I would say that this is the best version for a first playthrough or Big Boss trilogy marathon when the kinks are fixed on Citra (which I doubt will happen soon because MGS3D has been neglected for a long time).
I played this on my New 2DS and i found the circle knob so annoying to use that I ended up switching back to the default controls and just stuck with that through the whole game.
As a kid my only exposure to Solid Snake was Smash Brawl, and that ad for Snake Eater on the 3DS with Yoshi in it and it was the funniest thing ever
Excited to finally play this game when it's remade, will definitely play 1 and 2 first tho
Your only exposure to Solid Snake was in Brawl? They really should have capitalized on Metal Gear representation in Brawl by having the some of the games on the Wii. Missed opportunity.
Play the MSX games first.
Wow...My first two MGSgames were Peace Walker on PSP and then this version, so i actually had no idea that the original game did not have the OTS camera.
The Soviets did famously love Yoshi.
Truth be told, I like using the face buttons for camera control, and I commend the dev team for somehow making it work with limited buttons.
I really wish that they'd:
A: not removed the overhead/classic camera option. Apart from the fact that the controllable camera drops frames like nobody's business in subsistence, while the overhead camera runs at a locked 25/30 depending on region, menacing that MGS3D would probably be able to target a higher framerate if it had at least had the option to switch to an overhead camera. The main reason of an overhead camera would obviously be the OG 3DS/XL/2DS's lack of c-sticks, meaning that you would have to worry about controlling the camera with face buttons and could instead use the face buttons for controls without having to use the Circle Pad pro (which can't even be used on 2DS).
B: Released a New 3DS version of the game with a higher framerate that would actually take full advantage of the extra power of the "New" systems extra cores, higher clock speeds and extra memory.
I just watch these videos for Jon's voice
Im still impressed that its playing on a 3ds in 2012 that little clam shell rectangle can play mgs3 which is quite a heavily designed game for the ps2. If konami waited until the new 3ds came out then we would’ve been in for a huge treat
The collection on switch is getting a physical copy. Very happy and excited. I'm getting it
It requires a huge download from the look of it
@@dustingonzalez8080 Yea. That's happening with a lot of physical switch games. It sucks. But ill still get it. Thanks
I'm glad i downloaded it from the eshop before it got delisted and prices raised for the physical version... It feels neat as a novelty.
Shame Ghost Babel never was on the virtual console though
I never knew about the 3DS version but the custom camos is easily the coolest thing about the game
Got my complete physical copy a year ago. I bet the price is gonna go up.
I remember I first picked up MGS 3D soon after the release of New Super Mario Bros 2, out of sheer disappointment of that game.
What a great decision that was!!
3DS sucked.
Deal with it.
Nsmb2 is great youre just a popular opinion cupcake
@@LUCKO2022😂
@@LUCKO2022why do you say it sucked, though?
I remember, with the photocamo you can do a 100% camouflaged suit. And clear easely the hardest difficulty. Btw this game is still my favorite game, even today
It's crazy how adding a crouch walk makes this game so much more enjoyable to play. I sunk so much hours into this port as a teenager.
The 3D camo is busted, yes, but you can always just not use it if you're more of a purist.
I just found out about this version of the game due to Yongyeah talking about how this version introduced crouch walking which will be in the mGS 3 remake
An often overlooked part of this version is that while yes simplifying the controls made them more intuitive unfortunately it also made some of the more advanced / obscure moves impossible or extremely awkward to do compared to the og and the additions of crouchwalking and the TPS view do break the balancing of the game somewhat
I do still really like this version overall though
I took a picture of a real life M05 camo pattern used in Finland military; it gave 100% camouflage, effectively breaking the game
'Hey, that's Yoshi!'
'A what?'
'YOSHI.'
''He's called Yoshi. He must be getting popular in the Soviet Union''
I'll never look at red Yoshi the same way
This is still my favorite version of MGS3, thanks to the things mentioned in the video (minus the fps). Also, Yoshi! And making your own camouflage is so cool!
I wish I got a Nintendo 3DS. One of the reasons for this game.
This was how I experienced Snake Eater for the first time and it's going to be very weird to play it in the new collection. I'm sure the remake will have these changes and more.
Did you install the v1.1 update to Citra? For me it reduced the crashing to mostly only during codec calls
Thank you for setting straight the "Snake losing his eye disables 3D" urban legend
I played the original vanilla version. Not sure how different Subsistence will be with the new camera angles.
You haven't experienced MGS3D until you use the camera to make Hideo Kojima's face as camo.
And don't forget his vampire nightmare!
Everyone knows that the true form of MGS3 is pachinko
Exceptionally low framerates give me headaches to begin with, and swapping from 3D to 2D back to 3D every time I try to aim my gun? Headache city. I really wish they'd just kept the 3D even while aiming guns. I know that would make aiming guns all wonky because you'd get double vision... but then you can just close one of your eyes, you know? Even have a setting in the options for which eye Snake holds the sight in line with. Would have been both cooler and less painful.
This is how I experienced snake eater and I loved every second of it
A Snake Eater with Peace Walker gameplay man this is awesome
Hear me out
This was my first way I played mgs 3 when I was like 12
It always felt odd to me when I played the other versions and not having the crouch walking
Gosh, watching this makes me miss the 3DS era. "If I could turn back time..."
I’m still glad I own this version of the game. My 3DS will forever have a special place in my heart.
I think everyone who calls themselves an MGS3 fan owes it to themselves to do at least one play through with the original camera. There are so many mechanics and items that become useless in OTS mode, like the directional mic. It’s not a better experience, each camera angle has pros and cons, but it’s different and a lot of fun.
I've never played anything but the PS2 version, and I have the HD collection, it's just better all round IMO to run the PS2 versions of Substance and Subsistence on the PC, with Textures, upscaling, and FPS patches. I'd give the 3DS version a go if it were stable and I could unlock FPS and upscale the resolution and textures.
OTS mode?
@@ultraspinalki11 over the shoulder camera
@@ultraspinalki11 over the shoulder (subsistence camera)
"same identity" as he shows what looks like an MGS3 mod for Peace Walker lol
I'm relieved. I thought it was going to be about the pachinko one.
i loved the added crouch walk
I have this game and haven't played it yet. I didn't know about the 20 fps thing.
I love my copy. Physical version was hard to find even when new.
Yessir the circle pad pro made this the best version for me + crouch walk
The change to camera was the beginning of the end. Series completely dropped the "tactical" part of stealth.
mgs 3D was the first way i played mgs 3 i later beat the original version on ps2
Snake's responses to Yoshi are the same as his Kerotan responses .
"thats yoshi" she says in LITERALLY FUCKING NAM
fun fact, the crashing and audio cut out issues with citra can be fixed by disabling new 3ds mode.
Now we have the Master Collection on the way! I'm very much looking forward to playing 3 on the Switch.
Comrade Yoshi
They need to add that crouching to the new mgs master collection I always wanted that in the hd collection
I made a camera camo with a picture of John Cena. That gave me 100% camo all the time and was able to sneak the whole game, nobody saw me.
I don’t know why everyone complains about the framerate. It plays at a smooth 30 frames for me.
This was my favourite 3DS game alongside Ocarina of Time when I had the original model back in the day. It was also the way I experienced Snake Eater for the first time. I still managed to enjoy playing through the Vita version but I definitely missed the Peace Walker mechanics. I really wished there were more games like it on the 3DS.
This was the way I first played MGS3 and loved it and then the rest of the games, tho it did make it hard to go back to 3 without the gameplay changes
I only ever played the 3Ds version so I can’t wait for the remasters and remake
3D was the way I played snake eater for the first time. It was a great time
Not only was MGS3 my introduction to playing the series, but the 3DS version is the only version of it that I have played. Now getting back into it and you remember how good of a game MGS3 is.
This was how I played 3 and they should have used this and twin snakes for the collection I thinkkkkk
The only Version i have played, and for over 10 Years now. I need to replay this Game it has been too long
Didn’t know MGS 3D was so unique compared to other versions of it. I might have actually bought it if I knew that.
I would like for the remake to get a photo camo mod that would be so funny fighting Volgin while wearing a 4K camo tree frog
The best version of the original MGS 3 formula.
The 3ds camo feature is so fkn cool
I remember the day I went into GameStop and bought Resident evil and the circle pad pro... good times.
This version of the game is what made me fall in love with the series
Small correction, Peace Walker's third person aiming system comes to some degree from MGS4
You think Konami is capable of taking this version and making it run at maybe 1080p 60fps with the MGS Master Collection Vol 1? Would be nice if that's how we got it but doubt it as we're seeing a remake being made too. Oh well.
This is the way I first beat MGS3. I loved it. Granted it was in 2012. But I never noticed the low frame rate and beat it about 5 times on the 3ds since. Loved it. I guess you don't notice these things on such a small screen. I remember being so confused when I played the HD edition and snake looked worse and I couldn't crouch.
The PSP version Peace walker could be bundled on the vita store and installed and the second analog stick could be used for the camera
Thankfully we just got a breakthrough mod for the new PC version of MGS3 that adds the 3DS's crouch walking feature. Hopefully, we'll see the 3DS's other mechanical features come to PC through mods. Then we can finally have the definitive version.
I believe this version lets you change difficulty when playing a new playthrough after completing the game.
Great vid again, Jon
There is a way to fix the frame rate in this version...by doing a softmod and using a "cheat" that gives it a locked or near locked 30fps. I am not sure if it works on the regular 3DS, but it does on the New. And it goes from being basically unplayable in certain sections (especially boss fights) to running as smoothly as 30fps can get. Swap out the c-stick for a better one with actual grip and the game improves dramatically.
Soft mod? Like hacking the 3ds??
@@JeskidoYTYT keeps deleting my responses, so I have to leave out the web address, but yes that is how you do it. You will just have to search online, but the process is very easy to do; just follow the steps exactly. I definitely recommend visiting a site rather than watching a YT video though since it gives actual links to everything you need. I got my boys' 2DSes modded first, then my New 3DS and the first time it took about an hour; less than that for each subsequent time.
Is it a code you have to use?
Like 60fps codes for switch?
@@Matanumi Basically, yes. You just have to create a folder with the game ID number on your SD card and add a text file with the codes for the cheat, then overclock and enable the cheat (which only takes a few seconds) in a menu.
@@nddugas Old comment, but I wasn't able to find the specific cheat code you referenced here. I recently modded my New 2DS XL and would like to play the game with better frame rates. I know links aren't allowed, but could you name the website where I can find the codes/steps to mod this specific game?