Hosea's Advice to Lenny (Spoilers) / Hidden Dialogue / Red Dead Redemption 2
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- Hosea gives some advice to Lenny
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"When I die I wanna be buried with friends"
"Me too, or family"
At least they got what they wanted.
Hope Rockstar remembers...
They got what they *wanted* , But Not what they *needed* i needed them alive ;(
My fucking heart
Arthur did too.
Scratchy no. He gets shot by Micah as well.
@@j.r.2674 He died on the mountain, facing toward a sunset, and his last thoughts were of all the good times they used to have. He even gets buried there later by Charles.
Dutch is the leader of the group but
Hosea is the father figure everyone would rather follow.
Luis Aguilar
In his journal Arthur says he likes Hosea more than Dutch
Rallo I don’t blame him. Hosea is the kind of criminal who pickpockets and cons people, Dutch points guns and kills. Hosea just seems more of a humanitarian which I think just makes him better than Dutch.
@@Governor2310 I was laughing when Bronte takes a liking to Dutch, for basically being as much of a conniving smooth-talking greaseball criminal as he was, and Dutch comes out calling him a ... arrogant blowhard or something, like they're not cut from the same cloth. Dutch falls into this wild hero fantasy where he's standing up for Personal Freedom and The American Way more than anything, but Hosea is more realistic and focused on keeping their chosen family intact and alive as much as possible, while wishing the gang was still white hat, a group of outlaws who weren't just out for themselves as they run down their last days.
missbelled exactly. Unfortunately Dutch turned into everything that he stood against in the end. He abandoned many of the gang and he ended up living in a cave like a common criminal and began murdering a lot of people.
Red Dead 3 baby ! Another prequel hopefully
Hosea and Lenny said they wanted to be buried with Friends when they died, conveniently they would be buried right next to each other.
I'm alive
HAD SOME GODDAMN FAITH!
And when Arthur dies he looks at the sunset to the west
Man With No Name N WORD
fuck you bitch
What the gang members said about Hosea after his death :
*Arthur* : "I'm just.. miss Hosea and his wisdom.
*Dutch* : You sound like Hosea.. I miss him.
*John* : Hosea.. That still don't seem real somehow.. all them years.. he was like family.
*Abigail* : Charles and I stole his body from the law and buried him. It was real nice.
*Hosea* : I'm worry about folks when I die, Dutch.
See? The relationship between Hosea and them is what I call it "family"
Without Hosea rdr2 will not be desame
And then there is Micah: Hosea was dying anyway.
Fucking Micah
Mr.Critic John’s line hits hard
@@SkullBran I agree, he said exactly how we felt. 💔
And the way Dutch's voice sorta cracks when he says he misses Hosea....
Arthur: "I don't care about that nonsense"
Also Arthur: *is poetic and has a soul*
Mama McFadden He starts to become wiser as the story goes on especially after his diagnosis
@@josephstalin2606 Thanks, Stalin.
Mama McFadden Hey no problem fam
Hi comrade
arthur: im a heartless brute
also arthur: writes A♥️M in his journal like a goddamn schoolgirl
I just love how Hosea moves Lenny’s cup back over to him when he sat down 0:52 so subtle
Rdr2 is a video game , a movie , and a fucking novel all at once
@@user-ns5of8ct2c yeah man og
Raymond Drogan The most game that’ comes closest to reality my fav game
T in other words, a legendary masterpiece.
A- Ha not really
"I want to die, facing towards the west towards the sun"....man...the feels are still there...
Damn, I can’t start crying again 😭
He died facing the east watching the sunrise. It was a representation of a new era. Arthur said "our time has pretty much passed".
Paul Diony Tolentino, I like that idea
"That's the way it is".
Paul Diony Tolentino exactly what Dutch said before he died
When these two died so did the gang.
rest in peace.
Callum Willis-Hignight u lied! You sir are a lying liar and shall rot forever
Yeah rest in peace
Btw...
U ALRIGHT BOAAA
Because in a group you need someone as the moral compass otherwise everything goes insane. Micah and Dutch were far from that, and no one really listened to Arthur apart from John, Sadie, and a couple others. Hosea truly was the moral compass of the gang, and when he died you could tell people lost sanity almost immediately. Not only that, but Lenny, who had been the "kid" of the gang, died as well. So moral compass and the young one died and the gang went insane. Add that to Dutch's head injury and Micah's influence and you can see why people like Dutch, Bill, and even some Javier went off the deep end.
@@gal3xy059 you sir... are a fish
True
*We need a lenny and a hosea in our lives*
issac ù yes we all do
Ur not alone brother we all miss Hosea,Lenny,Sean,Keiran,Molly
Mrs.Grimshaw.
@@tankmastergaming7152 molly? Errr
@@felaxi5052 she's not a rat
@@tankmastergaming7152 yah but she wasn't fleshed out and quite annoying actuslly
"I don't believe that for a second" - Hosea could see right through you Mr. Morgan.
When Catherine Braithwaite asked Hosea if Arthur was as big and dumb as he looked:
Hosea: I'm with you on the first part. I have doubts about the second part.
Hosea only made Arthur sound dumb in the moonshine mission to sell it easier lol
He raised him alongside Dutch. Co-parents
Spoiler warning:
5:30. And yet he died facing east at the sunrise (High Honor). The east is where he became a better man earning his redemption in the end. So instead of looking west to the "good times" he looked east to "where he became a good person".
Charles buried him on a hill facing west, though
@@dohoh132 Yes he did but the conversation was on them -dying-
Draven Ocklost no it wasn’t.
Soleya he meant his grave though, which was facing west, Charles buried him there because he said he knows that’s what we would have wanted. How Charles knows that though, is beyond me.
You could say Arthur facing East was him looking onto the future knowing he is dying a better man. But even in death he still remembers to good times
_"I don't believe that for a second."_
This is why I love Hosea. Most others in the camp would simply say _"Oh okay."_ when Arthur sold his intelligence short but Hosea wasn't having anything of that. He expects the best of people even when it may seem doing so is such a ridiculous task considering the scenarios they were in. Hosea is a man of hope, integrity, but also honesty and it all comes together when you realize he's one of the most compassionate and sensitive people in the whole camp.
Morgan, the Marstons, Lenny, Uncle, Sadie, and Karen were too good for the camp if you ask me. Micah was a miserable bastard and Dutch let ALL of them down. Including himself by the end.
>no tilly or mary-beth
say sike right now
You're missing Susan, Mary-Beth, Tilly, Sean, Charles, Simon, Kieran even Molly (though she was kinda spoiled due to Dutch, but than again, Dutch fucked her over, by going with her, knowing he wasn't over Annabelle) and arguably even Javier. I get that Javier is a bit of a doubt here, since he chose Dutch in the end and changed a lot when he went to Mexico. But in my opinion, Javier was actually a really good guy. Sadly he was manipulated by Dutch, which led him to suspect John a lot and aside from that, he was way, way too loyal, to a point where he'd become like those Chelonians, if asked. After the gang, he went crazy, being all alone, having lost everything, being on the run, in a bad place. The loss changed him, but I think if it wasn't for Dutch, Javier could've turned out way better.
@@StatiCRjm What was wrong with my boy Sean? He was a good guy, although he liked teasing folk.
@@StatiCRjm SAY PSYCH RIGHT NOW
Where's ma boi Sean
When Lenny died I felt so sad for him
He was so young so much potential but he had to die young
I know I was sad af when sean died too he was pretty young
Such a shame. Lenny would've been something great In his life.
I know kieran wasn't that big a character but he wasn't a bad one. I was still sad when they got him. Didn't help with the O'Driscolls making it a presentation
Sauce or lossssss with the vanderlin gang (sorry that pfp reminded me of it)
Its just a game..
Its so sad and poetic at the same time that everybody who would've sided with Arthur at the end all died: Sean, Lenny, Hosea, Kieran, etc.
If they would have been allive javier and probably bill would have followed them
Then Miss Grimshaw had to die right there as soon as she sided with Arthur :(
Not everyone. Charles, Sadie, John were still there.
@@azuresaiyan9005 charles’s and sadie weren’t there when the gang broke up at the end
@@cr0spy and John was severely injured
4:23 Lenny hears that soup's ready.
U mean he rush for 1second?
I got a noodle soup advert when I clicked your timestamp
S P E E D
Lenny's mind: "SPEED, I AM SPEED"
"Leonard!"
"Hosea!"
*both laugh*
That was so wholesome.
If you'd hung around until the end of the last conversation, you would've seen another sweet interaction. Hosea coughs and holds his lungs because they're obviously hurting him. When he regains control he seems embarrassed, so Lenny soothes his ego by pretending to choke as well and blaming it on the food, saying Pearson cuts the meat too big.
"Well, I'll be dead, but before that I'll be fine again"
I'm stealing that.
The love that Hosea displays for Lenny is apparent when he advises Lenny to rob like a gentleman. That’s like a father knowing the potential of his son, and wanting better for the son than he had. Lenny probably had the most potential of any gang member period. Gun skills, charisma, intelligence, and he had youth on his side. That’s what made his death all the more saddening.
I’m just gonna day that Lenny’s death was even more sad on my second playthrough because in Chapter 2 I found a letter to Lenny from his dad, which reveals that his dad had left him and his mom for work and his father was telling him to stay safe and just wait for his return and protect his mother, it’s just really sad if you read the letter.
Fuck.... even though I haven't played or seen anyone read the letter in playthroughs yet... it's gonna hit me when I that mission. I'll say that.
I read it in chapter 4 ish
Yea
@Allen bryant Alvarez his father didn't leave him his father was killed by some drunk racists who lenny killed in revenge its how he became an outlaw.
The way Arthur died in the way he wanted and Lenny and Hosea got buried next to each other is really sweet but sad
Don't worry. They're all on Tahiti, peacefully picking mangoes while Cain plays in the field. Well, everyone except Micah, he's in hell.
@@gangrenousgandalf2102 he do be doing slave labor in guarma
Hey I hope they're all singing in not a dream dutch crafted for them like tahiti, but their own.
There’s not a single person alive today from that time period, everybody dies. Arthur lucked out in being able to die for something, he died with a feeling of accomplishment and satisfaction, poor Hosea and Lenny died afraid, shocked and disappointed.
Arthur died opposite of how he wanted tho
at a panel when a fan asked a bunch of the actors who their favorite character was (besides themselves), hoseas actor (who had been pretty quiet so far) chimed in and said he liked lenny, and it broke my damn heart
the music and ending made my heart a lil heavy :(
Me too but then the vid ended and an add with happy music started playing and ruined the moment.
Sad to think that Lenny coulda had a real future beyond the gang. But at least he didn’t suffer and he and Hosea are with their sweethearts again.
5:33 this line still hits me hard. I was having a low honour point in the middle of the game. After Hosea died, I did everything to gain the highest honour point so Arthur can actually face the sunset at the end.
U prob got shot in the face by micah
He faces the sunrise
He faces sunrise though, symbolising his departure from the gang and moving on
I love how much character is literally placed in the background of the game. I had no clue about this seemingly deeper connection with Lenny and Hosea, two characters who didn’t interact all too much in the main story. You just gotta appreciate things like this. Mind blowing.
I'm so glad I can watch these videos even after my 3rd play through of the game years later and still find dialog I missed. It's just a damn shame nothing like this will ever happen again.
Two legends died at the same day, and buried next to each other
Had a conatruction foreman like horsea. He was a year away from retirement when i started and was such a beauty. Always talking about how much he was gonna hang out at his cabin. Always told me id be a good construction worker but could do well if i went to school.
Guy had a massive heart attack three weeks away from retirement. Him and hoseas death honestly had a similar gut punch feel to it.
Shit... I pity the guy
My like = sympathy
Take his advice young feller it will see you far
It funny knowing that while Lenny & Hosea were having their conversation, Author is just standing there a few feet away just staring at them.
Maybe that's actually an Author thing for him to do actually? Like... he'll stay in camp to witness and check up on what's happening in camp for a few days, and as us players would mostly do, is just explore and do the usual.
Lenny and Hosea are buried next to each other.
3:48 Hosea tried to warn Lenny, the same way Arthur warns John in chapter 6
4:22 Lenny taps into the speed force
You have to admire the animation and performance of Hoesa, especially at the beginning. You can see him already knowing something is bothering Lenny, not looking away from him when he pauses, slowly putting his newspaper away and sitting forward to listen like a good father/grandfather would.
6:03 Lmao Hosea da biggest savage in dis game
Fantasy Boy lol
Oh I already know there is a white guy trying to be black behind that screen
@@freechildlabour.mp3733 huh
@@freechildlabour.mp3733 ?
@@freechildlabour.mp3733 wow
The fact that this game has been out for this long and dialogue is still being found is incredible
3:07 I love how Dutch turns his head to hear what Hosea says about him
When Hosea died the game died for me. I rushed through the rest of the game. Had no mood to explore or hang out with the gang anymore.
I still remember the night when the gang burned Braithwaite mansion down and later taken back Jack. Then everyone singing around the fire, Jack in his mother’s arms smiling... I cried. I hoped another moment like that would happen down the line but it never did. Things just kept going worse.
BorisG491 - while I agree with most of what you said, I thoroughly enjoyed Arthur’s redemption arc. For the first few chapters I tried so hard to be honorable in every action, but Arthur was too much of a yes man to Dutch so he was forced to kill. Once he got his diagnosis and Sean, Hosea, and Lenny died, Arthur knew his time was up soon so he wanted to go out his way. I’m glad that his way was a good way, rather than all the bad he done when following orders.
I relate to both of these comments tbh
Same
One of the best moments in the camp has to be the night after getting Sean back if you had still left Micah in jail ahaha
@BorisG491 Funny how I feel the same! Well that or just quitting the game completely, I guess... and replay it up to that point. I really liked Hosea most. I just now came to the point in the game of him dying and I‘m not sure if I can handle the rest of the game, the gang, without him 😢. I can’t even say why, but it really broke my heart. I just wished there were more scenes between him and Arthur with their parent-son relationship. It felt so heartwarming, even if it was not addressed very often. RIP Hosea, you‘re missed.
Oh, when they asked Arthur what he'd like I saw it coming a mile away, still hurt
_"But unlike them, we'll go down fighting!"_
In the end, neither of them were given the chance to shoot back.
"Face me to the west so I can watch the setting sun and remember all the fine times we had"
That sent chills up my spine
4:22 lenny first round draft pick wide receiver look at the foot work🤣🤣
LMAO
Ayeee
Guishe idk how you couldn’t understand........
Guishe can you read this tho? D-O-R-K
0:38 I am so impressed at how well they communicate what the characters are feeling and thinking. I could watch this clip over and over again. Hosea's words make perfect sense, and his absolute look of contemplation alone is enough to make me feel what he is feeling
Hosea knew it was all coming to an end from the beginning. Unlike Dutch the gang truly was his family, he cared about every one of them, especially Lenny and Arthur, they were like sons to him; not like the kind of "Son" Arthur was to Dutch. Dutch just saw him as another one of his loyal dogs and got pissed the second Arthur started to think for himself
Hosea also treated John with as much care. Their talks about John needing to focus on his family and eventually put the gang behind him were touching. Gotta love Hosea's wisdom and compassion.
It’s sad because if these two were alive they would back Arthur and John
5:26 the way Hosea's jaw dropped 😂
Hosea kept the gang together, when he died it just fell apart 🤧
“We’ll go down fighting”
That bank job in saint denis broke the gang
Blame Dutch. All he had to do is agree with Hosea a Few times and Everything would have been ok.
...while I somewhat agree, the bank job in Saint Denis was Hosea’s plan...
Burt Macklin yeah but then Dutch went ahead and killed Angelo Bronte when Hosea advised not to
I know. They should’ve listened to Hosea and left before they did anything
Hosea just wanted his TB to pass and an reunite with Bessie 🤧
@@burtmacklin1939 you sure hosea had tb too?
6:03 now i see where arthur gets his sass from
He did got Robbed but always fought back. Or at least that's what i always did.
4:23 Hey now, QuickSilver, you coulda just given old Hosea Whiplash and a Heart Attack
its 11 am and i havent slept yet and this comment is killing me
Arthur think he bad but he ain't Lol 😂
Arthur is a good guy who just enjoys being bad sometimes
He’s the perfect example of a complete neutral person
High Off Sauce lol
High Off Sauce of course he does lol
So In your play through he kills hundreds upon hundreds of innocent people, civilians- but at least he feels bad about it, only to do it again
@@milesupshur4179 feels bad huh?
High Off Sauce Christ man, give him a crumb of humanity at least
Honestly, the death of these two broke my heart. The only thing that could console me & keep me playing the game was the fact that they got to be buried together. Lenny, who wanted to be buried with family, next to Hosea, who he loved like a father. Hosea, who wanted to be buried with friends, next to Lenny, who out of all his friends was closest with Hosea.
Man watching this just rebroke my heart. I really hated losing hosea and Lenny
I made on my Ps4 2 seperate videos out of their deaths. But never one for each Character.
Hosea really cared for Lenny and his future, he really wanted Lenny to become someone, it's so wholesome and heartbreaking at the same time.
4:22 Jesus Christ lenny
💀💀
Arthur: "LENNNAY! STOP DEFYING THE LAWS OF TIME AND SPACE!"
4:39 three of my favorite characters sitting at the same table, trusted them with my in-game life.
I loved Lenny and Hosea.. never have i actually blurted out "NO!" when an NPC died in a game until those two.. and in such quick succession.. That was a TOUGH mission.. followed up by guarma when all i wanted was to get back and find out if someone buried mah boys.. was so happy to find them buried together
That part about Arthur saying how he wanted to be buried got me. It got be good.
I was looking for the scene where Arthur talks about what kind of resting place he wants...thanks so much! The conversation between Lenny and Hosea is very bittersweet!
I still learn from this game everyday.
Hosea was such a good and humble man. I just wish he lived along john at beecher's hope in epilogue other than the stupid uncle.
To be honest, if Hosea didn't die in St. Denis he would have died within another year probably.
6:02 that hit arthur hard
Hosea and Lenny were ahead of their time...
Man I miss those two.
Ah man, I miss those two, Sean too, as soon as he died I knew the gang was going down hill.
You had me with that last scene of their graves side by side
5:12 made me a little sad, since they ended up dieing the same day and do end up getting buried together outside of Saint Denis.
I was looking for that 3:50 conversation everywhere I almost thought I imagined it lol. So good! Thanks for this
“Face me to the west so I can set in to the sun and remember the fine times we had” #RipArthurMorgan❤️
thanks for your amazing rdr2 videos
6:47
Omg that hurts so much! X(
Ikr
When arthur said how he wanted to be buried that gave me the feels.
When Lenny died I started the game over and played it like a simulation I played till we got the 2nd camp and lived like a Fisherman and gang member Robbin people and such
Literally 2 of my favorite characters killed in the same mission, I hate Dutch so much but I hate Micah even more
And also 2 Characters that we hate the most
A little faith. I LITTLE FAITH
Arthur: I don't do too much thinking
Arthur's Journal:
Damn bro you had to break my at the end with the music and their grave 😭
Finished the game a while back. But like many other people, I’m going back and seeing conversations I never knew existed. And the first one…god, that damn near moved me to tears. Hosea’s actor is one of the best in the gang, hands down, and that’s saying a lot considering every one of them(except maybe Jack) is great. That conversation was just so REAL. And it foreshadows everything, up to that fateful day.
what a great game..and what a beautiful bunch of murderers i have...nah but seriously its amazing there is still some content that people are seeing for the first time even for the hardcore fans
Dutch. You and Micah ruined Everything. No wonder Jacksepticeye/Sean says that Dutch People are Scary.
@@MariusBoss11458 Oo0
“I don’t believe that for a second”
Hosea knew how special Arthur was
This game is really good at capturing emotion in the sense that we see Lenny show so much potential to be more and we feel this attachment to him just to see him get wasted by a bullet this games writers are damn good at what they do
These Graphics are so good that when I was randomly scrolling I thought it was a real picture of men sitting at a real table!
They may be videogame characters but that don't mean they're not real. :)
@@raquizta06 And they tried hard to make em the way in real life also is.
One of the things I find really endearing is how protective Lenny, Tilly, and Abigail are of Hosea. He really is the father figure that they all need in their lives!
5:48 I feel like Clemens Point is the biggest and most open camp, which in a way represents the wide open world they see before it all falls apart
Man this game is so emotional I never beleived I would connect to a game that much
that bit at the end hit real hard
"Face me to the west so I can watch the setting sun and remember all the fine times we had that way" - Arthur Morgan 1899
Jesus, the tombs at the end were out of nowhere striking down my soul.
the fact that there are like hundreds maybe even thousands of interactions that you might find all of or very few it’s just that you have to be looking for them, this game is so alive it made me feel like arthur it made me cry for the deaths of my favorite gang members it taught me a lot it kinda changed how i think of people and reality
Lenny was always a good character his death pissed me off. Not just that he died but how he died that quickly and then the others just walked by his body with Arthur willing to stay behind
I played through most of this game rushing through the story not really caring for the characters. Then after the bank robbery gone wrong when certain characters were taken away, it hit me hard. I didn’t realize how much they meant to me until they were gone, it was too late. They were some of the best of the whole gang and deserved so much better. RIP!
This is a awesome video thank you for sharing
Jesus.. years later and I am still recovering emotionally from this game.
This always shows up twice for me. Once in Horseshoe Overlook, and literally at the very beginning of Chapter 3.
Watching these videos makes me want to give the story mode one more go.
RDRO is beyond horribly broken.
"I love Dutch like a father, but I love Hosea more."
4:05 *internally crying *
Wow i can watch these dialogues all day long, amazing game, amazing writing. Best ever
the last dialoge really got me... they are nice ppl and they deserve better life
Sad that Hosea and Lenny died at the same event prior to the saint dennis heist
Two of the best characters. Puts a smile on my face every time
Lenny was my favorite member of the gang he was just the youngest one out of the guys and looked up to a lot of them but also had the moral compass that a lot of them lacked
3 years later and several playthroughs and I never saw a few of those interactions. Didn't know Lenny and Hosea were so close.
The end of the video though man, that hurts
A thoughtful man.