Hi Jose, thank you for this close look at the Sun Odyssey 410, as it has now xunk in with me that I really need a bigger Sailboat, as I had found a great price on a nearly new 410. Ho Hum. Something probably useful I found on my last trip to the USA to buy a Sailboat - Walmart Powdered milk is as good as the best powdered milk in the world, and came highly recommended by Walmart Customer Reviews. Another good option is Condensed Milk, that can be found in toothpaste tube type containers. Great for in Tea and in Coffee. My last Sailboat I bought was in the USA in 2016, and to be honest, I found food prices shockingly high and far more expensive than in the chronically overpriced European Union. However, there were some Supermarkets still around that had far more reasonable prices, which I used to stock up the boat before leaving USA Territorial Waters,a couple of days before my Visitors Visa Ran Out. I was panicking a bit tbh, but got into the Gulf Stream, heading for Bermuda from Martha’s Vineyard. Best Wishes, and I have just subscribed. Bob in Wales.👍✨✨✨🙂⛵️🏴🇬🇧
If you are coastal sailing for a few days or a week, then a big fridge makes sense. But if you are crossing oceans wouldn't a giant freezer make more sense and a small fridge? Maybe they should offer this as an option.
Thank you for watching! When cruising you want to plan your food stores to carry the least amount of refrigerated items as possible. That said, for 1 or 2 people, you can carry a couple of weeks worth of refrigerated food. Something to keep in mind is that you are not doing passages over 2 weeks long or longer all the time. Most people may do a passage and then sail the area you are in for a couple of weeks before you do another passage. So you have time to replenish. If you need additional refrigeration you can add a portable unit to dedicate as a freezer. If I was doing a multi-week passage, I would also carry MREs. Complete meals without refrigeration. The MREs also provide a heat source, so if you run out of propane, you can still have a hot meal. Just some thoughts to consider in your planning. I had some of the MREs post hurricane Milton and they were not bad at all.
One of the best boat tour nowadays, thanks for that, but you miss storage capacity under seating area and I think your black water capacity is wrong, that could be 50 liters not 50 gallons... maybe . Finally very important, electricity autonomy or even better, electricity consumption per day in amps. Thanks again and keep doing that awesome job.
Thank you for your feedback. In doing more research, it seems the manufacturer does not publish much in terms of holding tank capacity. I was able to find the following: • Black water tank 80 L / 21 US gal, with gravity drain and deck fitting (versions A and B) • Black water tank 130 L / 34 US gal, with gravity drainand deck fitting (versions C and D). Other writings I found say it is 50 gal. Will reach out to Jeanneau to try to get a definitive answer. As far as electric consumption, I will keep that in mind for subsequent videos. Thank you for watching!
I have found it really useful to work on the amount I use in twelve hours of darkness and the most used then, before the Sun Comes up and the Solar Panels start working again- with the Wind generator often providing a healthy bonus, but with a backup generator as well. I have never exceeded 200 amps in that time- average around 140 amps tbh. But still working on 200 amps is really useful, as with a house Bank of AGM. Very high quality 4500 recharge Cycle Batteries, that means that I can easily keep them above a 20% state of discharge. Why ? Because if those AGM batteries are kept above an 80% state of discharge, and get charged back up to 100% charged asap, those 4500 Cycles Flatline, and do not get used up. That means, that barring accidents, the Service Life of those batteries should exceed Thirty Years ! It is important that the batteries have really good pure Lead plates. As an aside, a Second Bank of the most recent Lifepo4 batteries by Li Time and Power Queen, which have outstanding new BMS and the build quality to stand a 100 amp discharge and Charge rate - though Never treat them that badly - can be used to get the AGM’s back to 100% via using DC to DC chargers, while extending the Service Life of the Lifepo4 batteries whose internals have just become well up to the job. This is a very recent change via BMS hardware is a major breakthrough, and frankly a small battery bank of multiple batteries can dramatically reduce discharge and recharge loads for each individual battery, as Lifepo4 batteries hate rapid charging, and discharging them below 50% hammers their recharge Cycles. They are actually pretty sensitive to Life Shortening Treatment.,but now, it looks as though they can reach the extended Service Life that they couldn’t offer before! I’m thinking of a Bank of three Li Time Plus230 ah batteries should easily cope with the reasonable draw of 0.15 C where C is the total ah of the battery Bank and an identical charging rate keeping everything really low stressed, which formerly was very difficult and not ideal with a 12 volt system, which on boats is pretty important still - otherwise, 48 volts is wonderful onshore tbh. Sharing the loads and keeping them close, can help keep cable amperages very reasonable indeed for 22 volts. I have always liked to keep loads to about a maximum of 50% of Cable load capacity, so cables don’t even get more than slightly warm, so cable resistances never increase. Bob.🤔✨✨✨👍🏴🇬🇧
Jeanneau is recalling these boats made in the last few years if they have been fitted with a bow thruster. In heavy seas, the bow can smack into a wave and the force pushes the bow thruster straight into the hull creating a big hole for water to rush in. Boat sinks in minutes. Apparently this is because the bow thrusters weren't installed with sufficient solid laminate around the housing to withstand heavy forces. It doesn't sound like there is a simple fix for it either, except for cutting the thing out and refitting it properly.
I did a little research. Here is the information on the recall and the year models it affects: Jeanneau Yachts has issued a recall for their Sun Odyssey models 410, 440, and 490 produced between 2020 and 2022. The recall addresses a safety issue with the Sleipner-Sidepower retractable bow thruster modules. Owners of these models are advised to inspect the thruster area for water ingress and stop using the boat until the reinforcement of the thruster flange is completed. Jeanneau is providing this service free of charge to ensure the safety of their customers . There are no current recalls for the newer Jeanneau Yachts 55, which has received accolades and won awards for its innovative design and performance . If you have one of the affected models or need further assistance, it’s recommended to contact your dealer or Jeanneau’s customer service.
Jeanneau Yachts has issued a recall for their Sun Odyssey models 410, 440, and 490 produced between 2020 and 2022. The recall addresses a safety issue with the Sleipner-Sidepower retractable bow thruster modules. Owners of these models are advised to inspect the thruster area for water ingress and stop using the boat until the reinforcement of the thruster flange is completed. Jeanneau is providing this service free of charge to ensure the safety of their customers . There are no current recalls for the newer Jeanneau Yachts 55, which has received accolades and won awards for its innovative design and performance . If you have one of the affected models or need further assistance, it’s recommended to contact your dealer or Jeanneau’s customer service.
Thank you watching! You usually place the Dinghy on the foredeck when making long passages. The rest of the time you are either towing it or you have it on the davits. Reason people like to place it on the foredeck, is because in a passage, if you take a rogue wave from the stern you may end-up with the dinghy on the cockpit. So for safety, a lot of folks place it on the foredeck during long passages or if you are at anchor during a storm.
Sweetie. Pacific Northwest. British Isles. Germany. Sweden. Norway. Some of the greatest sailing and cruising in the world. Never, ever, would you shower outdoors in any of these places. We shower indoors all the time.
Is there a reason for , not installing drench shower heads in the celing an all the pipe work behind??? In the UK , Canal boats are havin to change from normal heads to one that incinerates or cremates all the solids. Can these be installed on new an existing boats? The idea is clear, no Blk or grey water to carry an get rid of. Realy great things to think of an great down to earth education.❤❤❤🙏🙏🪬🪬💎💎🥃🥃🇬🇧🇬🇧👍👍⛵️⛵️⛵️
It saves water if you can move the shower head to the right location.😊 Interesting to hear about the cremating heads in Europe. In US you can install a Raritan system to process the waste before disposing. Have to look a little more into that.
Hi Jose, thank you for this close look at the Sun Odyssey 410, as it has now xunk in with me that I really need a bigger Sailboat, as I had found a great price on a nearly new 410. Ho Hum. Something probably useful I found on my last trip to the USA to buy a Sailboat - Walmart Powdered milk is as good as the best powdered milk in the world, and came highly recommended by Walmart Customer Reviews. Another good option is Condensed Milk, that can be found in toothpaste tube type containers. Great for in Tea and in Coffee. My last Sailboat I bought was in the USA in 2016, and to be honest, I found food prices shockingly high and far more expensive than in the chronically overpriced European Union. However, there were some Supermarkets still around that had far more reasonable prices, which I used to stock up the boat before leaving USA Territorial Waters,a couple of days before my Visitors Visa Ran Out. I was panicking a bit tbh, but got into the Gulf Stream, heading for Bermuda from Martha’s Vineyard. Best Wishes, and I have just subscribed. Bob in Wales.👍✨✨✨🙂⛵️🏴🇬🇧
Thank you for watching! Wishing you smooth sailing on your trip to Bermuda!
@@HomesBoatsTravelbyJoseTorres Thanks Jose, Much appreciated. Keep up the very different and useful walkthrough reviews.Bob.👍✨✨✨⛵️❤️🏴🇬🇧
If you are coastal sailing for a few days or a week, then a big fridge makes sense. But if you are crossing oceans wouldn't a giant freezer make more sense and a small fridge? Maybe they should offer this as an option.
Thank you for watching! When cruising you want to plan your food stores to carry the least amount of refrigerated items as possible. That said, for 1 or 2 people, you can carry a couple of weeks worth of refrigerated food. Something to keep in mind is that you are not doing passages over 2 weeks long or longer all the time. Most people may do a passage and then sail the area you are in for a couple of weeks before you do another passage. So you have time to replenish. If you need additional refrigeration you can add a portable unit to dedicate as a freezer. If I was doing a multi-week passage, I would also carry MREs. Complete meals without refrigeration. The MREs also provide a heat source, so if you run out of propane, you can still have a hot meal. Just some thoughts to consider in your planning. I had some of the MREs post hurricane Milton and they were not bad at all.
@@HomesBoatsTravelbyJoseTorres yeah that also makes sense - thanks!
One of the best boat tour nowadays, thanks for that, but you miss storage capacity under seating area and I think your black water capacity is wrong, that could be 50 liters not 50 gallons... maybe . Finally very important, electricity autonomy or even better, electricity consumption per day in amps. Thanks again and keep doing that awesome job.
Thank you for your feedback. In doing more research, it seems the manufacturer does not publish much in terms of holding tank capacity. I was able to find the following: • Black water tank 80 L / 21 US gal, with gravity drain and deck fitting (versions A and B)
• Black water tank 130 L / 34 US gal, with gravity drainand deck fitting (versions C and D). Other writings I found say it is 50 gal. Will reach out to Jeanneau to try to get a definitive answer.
As far as electric consumption, I will keep that in mind for subsequent videos.
Thank you for watching!
I have found it really useful to work on the amount I use in twelve hours of darkness and the most used then, before the Sun Comes up and the Solar Panels start working again- with the Wind generator often providing a healthy bonus, but with a backup generator as well. I have never exceeded 200 amps in that time- average around 140 amps tbh. But still working on 200 amps is really useful, as with a house Bank of AGM. Very high quality 4500 recharge Cycle Batteries, that means that I can easily keep them above a 20% state of discharge. Why ? Because if those AGM batteries are kept above an 80% state of discharge, and get charged back up to 100% charged asap, those 4500 Cycles Flatline, and do not get used up. That means, that barring accidents, the Service Life of those batteries should exceed Thirty Years ! It is important that the batteries have really good pure Lead plates. As an aside, a Second Bank of the most recent Lifepo4 batteries by Li Time and Power Queen, which have outstanding new BMS and the build quality to stand a 100 amp discharge and Charge rate - though Never treat them that badly - can be used to get the AGM’s back to 100% via using DC to DC chargers, while extending the Service Life of the Lifepo4 batteries whose internals have just become well up to the job. This is a very recent change via BMS hardware is a major breakthrough, and frankly a small battery bank of multiple batteries can dramatically reduce discharge and recharge loads for each individual battery, as Lifepo4 batteries hate rapid charging, and discharging them below 50% hammers their recharge Cycles. They are actually pretty sensitive to Life Shortening Treatment.,but now, it looks as though they can reach the extended Service Life that they couldn’t offer before! I’m thinking of a Bank of three Li Time Plus230 ah batteries should easily cope with the reasonable draw of 0.15 C where C is the total ah of the battery Bank and an identical charging rate keeping everything really low stressed, which formerly was very difficult and not ideal with a 12 volt system, which on boats is pretty important still - otherwise, 48 volts is wonderful onshore tbh. Sharing the loads and keeping them close, can help keep cable amperages very reasonable indeed for 22 volts. I have always liked to keep loads to about a maximum of 50% of Cable load capacity, so cables don’t even get more than slightly warm, so cable resistances never increase. Bob.🤔✨✨✨👍🏴🇬🇧
Jeanneau is recalling these boats made in the last few years if they have been fitted with a bow thruster. In heavy seas, the bow can smack into a wave and the force pushes the bow thruster straight into the hull creating a big hole for water to rush in. Boat sinks in minutes. Apparently this is because the bow thrusters weren't installed with sufficient solid laminate around the housing to withstand heavy forces. It doesn't sound like there is a simple fix for it either, except for cutting the thing out and refitting it properly.
Interesting information. Thank you for sharing. Will do some research on this.
I did a little research. Here is the information on the recall and the year models it affects:
Jeanneau Yachts has issued a recall for their Sun Odyssey models 410, 440, and 490 produced between 2020 and 2022. The recall addresses a safety issue with the Sleipner-Sidepower retractable bow thruster modules. Owners of these models are advised to inspect the thruster area for water ingress and stop using the boat until the reinforcement of the thruster flange is completed. Jeanneau is providing this service free of charge to ensure the safety of their customers .
There are no current recalls for the newer Jeanneau Yachts 55, which has received accolades and won awards for its innovative design and performance . If you have one of the affected models or need further assistance, it’s recommended to contact your dealer or Jeanneau’s customer service.
Jeanneau Yachts has issued a recall for their Sun Odyssey models 410, 440, and 490 produced between 2020 and 2022. The recall addresses a safety issue with the Sleipner-Sidepower retractable bow thruster modules. Owners of these models are advised to inspect the thruster area for water ingress and stop using the boat until the reinforcement of the thruster flange is completed. Jeanneau is providing this service free of charge to ensure the safety of their customers .
There are no current recalls for the newer Jeanneau Yachts 55, which has received accolades and won awards for its innovative design and performance . If you have one of the affected models or need further assistance, it’s recommended to contact your dealer or Jeanneau’s customer service.
If you have the dinghy on the fore deck, doesn't that mean all sunbathing area and the solar panel and maybe the hatches are all covered?
Thank you watching! You usually place the Dinghy on the foredeck when making long passages. The rest of the time you are either towing it or you have it on the davits. Reason people like to place it on the foredeck, is because in a passage, if you take a rogue wave from the stern you may end-up with the dinghy on the cockpit. So for safety, a lot of folks place it on the foredeck during long passages or if you are at anchor during a storm.
@@HomesBoatsTravelbyJoseTorres right OK thanks
Please do a video of Jeanneau 65 & 64
Let me see if I can find one near by.
I thougt u show the HANSE 410 the very best boat in this class.
Not on this video. Hanse makes a wonderful boat. I’ll see if I can find one near me and I’ll do a similar video.
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Thank you for watching
Sweetie. Pacific Northwest. British Isles. Germany. Sweden. Norway. Some of the greatest sailing and cruising in the world. Never, ever, would you shower outdoors in any of these places. We shower indoors all the time.
Thank you for the feedback. I made the comment that in colder climates you would use the showers. 😊
Great advice an education 🙏🙏🪬🪬💎💎🥃🥃🇬🇧🇬🇧👍👍⛵️⛵️
Glad you enjoyed it! I will be doing other boats on various sizes so folks can compare.
Thank you!
Is there a reason for , not installing drench shower heads in the celing an all the pipe work behind???
In the UK , Canal boats are havin to change from normal heads to one that incinerates or cremates all the solids.
Can these be installed on new an existing boats?
The idea is clear, no Blk or grey water to carry an get rid of.
Realy great things to think of an great down to earth education.❤❤❤🙏🙏🪬🪬💎💎🥃🥃🇬🇧🇬🇧👍👍⛵️⛵️⛵️
It saves water if you can move the shower head to the right location.😊
Interesting to hear about the cremating heads in Europe.
In US you can install a Raritan system to process the waste before disposing.
Have to look a little more into that.