Some interesting updates on the Charter Version of the Dufour 44 - the Engine now to be the 76 hp Yanmar ; an excellent change imho, due to the far superior availability and pricing of parts Globally. I had heard that the standard Charter Draft was going to be 5 ft 3 inches which cheered me up as I could get by with that for a couple of years before having the Custom Lead Wing Keel fitted bu that does seem still in flux as I was notified that it is likely to be 5 feet 8 inches at the Moment. Jamie the Agent has done a wonderful job with the interior design, the silly Hexagonal Saloon Table is still an option, but the scope of optional changes without that Table has been expanded interestingly. The Range of Option packages to Suit Easy and Ocean versions, remains pretty Decent it appears. No news on a 2 Cabin version as yet, but it is easy enough to de Cabin a third Cabin in favour of Storage, Workshop, or whatever anyway. Fair play to Dufour, as they appear to be taking Suggestions and Recommendations via Agents very seriously in their ambition to shift their Emphasis towards Cruising. Reasons to be cheerful Part 4. A Big Well done and deep gratitude to all Concerned. Bob. 👍🌟🌟🌟❤️
The boat is nice. It's not bad, although it's not in my top 10 on my wish list for Santa. Not even in my top 30. I was recently on one and I think it's a nice floating apartment. Among the things I didn't like at all is that only God and Olivier Racoupeau know where the anchor chain is. Also, the weight of the ballast is top secret, which seems suspicious to me.
@@brownnoise357 I new the draft would get you, as I was going out into the Solent I could here your voice in my head, not a bad boat if you can sort out the draft, and you are definitely right. This is a good fare weather boat but.!!!
@@SVTONICBoatWives 😄 I'm definitely predictable when it comes to basic necessities to maximise the number of places to get into and out of, which means Shallow Draft to have access into Estuaries, small Rivers at high tide, plus to run to Small Bays to get shelter from Storms and enough depth to Anchor at low tide, then at the other end is a low Air adrift so you can fit under the largest number of Bridges possible. plus get under power lines and Telephone cables that cross Estuaries and small rivers. I've spent most of my life loving exploring such places, and anchored up a river or drying out on a Bilge, eel boat as wildlife starts moving as dusk draws in, with a nice e glass of Whisky listening to birds roosting forcthe night, with the sound of f,owing water or the waves gently crashing ashore really takes some beating, but none of it is possible with a Deep Dradt and very High Air Draft Mast Sadly, and its a hell ofva thing to even consider giving up. So my Apologies if it is getting a bit of a StuckmRecord and Boring. Oh PS. It looks as though a Charter Spec Dufour 44 comes with a 5 ft 3 inch Draft, and a Much larger engine of 57 hp which may due to the Yanmar Training of Charter Mechanics, actually be a Yanmar (if so, I can then fit the 80 hp with the ZF Saildrive ) , and a 40 foot Air Draft Selden in Mast Furling Mast shouldn't be a problem, then changing the Forward Berth to a s,ightly Offset Pull an seems OK, so All Bulkheads will be in the Right places for a Setag Yachts full interior Redesign and Refit, after the boat is about 5 years old. Other Mahor benefits include the throwing in of Packages as deal sweeteners, cuch as Comfort, Mooring, anchoring , Safety, Lifejackets, Flares and Liferaft, plus instrument packages and Air con with generator packages, either straight up included, or at massive discounts ? Seems the years spent as a Negotiator, haven't been wasted. Grins. Now if I an only live long enough for the Piggy Bank to Fill up ? Oh almost forgot, Suit of Sails packages for Charter Sailboats are made to be extra Durable, and made UV Resistant, which is why they are still generally in pretty good shape after 5 years of use. I've picked up a lot of useful info in the past few weeks, and tacking on an order to help a Charter Company hitbits order targets can certainly pay off it seems. Grins. Best Wishes and Fair Winds. Bob. 🤔🌟🌟🌟👍❤️
Manufacturers want to keep their CE Cat A classification. The volume of this boat makes it comparable to say a 44’ from only a few years ago. Expecting a draft of less than 1.7m 5’ 7” is not realistic. Want to mud crawl, back to a bilge keel Westerly, advantage you will be sailing really slowing if you ram it on the mud 🤭 Beneteau 40.7 has 2.4m draft, shallow is 1.9m
@@martinjohnson4264 Kindly state what exactly is unrealistic about the use of Wing Keels which easily allow a useful Shoal Draft.Frankly recommending going back to a Bilge Keel is quite insulting, given there is only one Boat Builder who builds an equivalent and excellent Twin Keel option, and that is Sirius Yachts. Frankly, if you just Suck at Navigating up Estuaries and into the upper Reaches of Rivers, just admit it and you won’t have to make ridiculous comments about what in your rather ignorant opinion is Realistic would you. 🤔
@@martinjohnson4264 Frankly, if you even have a boat, have you ever taken it out of a Marina, or the Mediterranean ? You say Beneteau 40.7 has a 2.4 mtr Draft as if it is a good thing,and same for supposedly shallow but not shallow at all is 1.9 mtr you clearly have no idea how much trouble a Draft of 1.9 mtrs can get you into, in many parts of the World that are very popular for Sailing. One example, try not running aground travelling the ICW with that Draft or in places like the Bahamas - though with care accessing and leaving Marinas you should be ok, which rather wrecks the pleasures of Anchoring Out, and the huge number of Estuaries and Rivers to explore that such stupid Drafts, and excessively Tall Air Draft Masts totally rule out. I am very lucky to have done to death Sailing in the Mediterranean in the 1960’s and 1970’s before it became a chronically Overpriced Bureaucratic Nightmare, so do the World a Favour and Stick with your opinions in what is now the irrelevant Puddle called the Mediterranean eh ?😡
Not just for American Buyers who go Cruising and not Racing. The Air Sraft issue should be an easy Fix, as I'm going to be able to order a 40 foot Air Draft Selden Mast with in Mast Furling, so any Commissioning agent should be able to do the samefor safe clearance for Bridges and Powerline/ Telephone line clearance up Estuaries and Rivers Globally ? The big issu for Cruisers though is that damned minimum Draft of 5 ft 7 inches, which is nowhere near shallow enough, and the boat itself is too Small to bother with the significant expense of the design, construction, delivery and fitting of a Custom Lead Wing Keel just to o tain a Shallow enough Draft. The Cons of going with a Lifting Keel option if one is even available, Co tinge to Rulecthem out for me to be able to get a minimum Draft of below 3 foot. To me, a Sailboat of between 43 and 45 ft LOA is the maximum likely size for opting for a Custom Keel tbh - that is a back of a Postcard rough calculation though , and the CAD Keel Design Software should easily confirm details. As the nice SV Tonic Ladies know all too well, I'm getting really cheesed of with Boatbuilders not embracing the terrific opportunities offered by Wing Keels for Cruising Spec Sailboats, so I'll finish with Best Wishes and Fair Winds. Bob in Wales. 🤔🌟🌟🌟👍
Good job showing the boat. Interesting, hanse have good innovations but really on the charter side. Focusing on comfort and lacking on performance. For futur showing. What about Dehler in the 40 foot range. Do they have plans to upgrade the 42. If you can get on the 38 or the 42 that’d be nice. Thank you for all the videos…
@@Charles5882 I had a good look at the Dehler 46 last year, and I have a feeling there will be a smaller one at La Rochelle this year. I will do what I can to get around it and post my findings for you.
@@Charles5882 If I remember Right, Dehler are one of the Bost Vuilders that have totally lost the plot with the extreme Depth of the Draft of their Keels, but downright gorgeous with their Below Deck Layout and Finishing, which sort of defeats the point of having a Cruising Sailboat imho. Somewhat Surprisingly, I've been getting some agreement with my views from a Successful Racing Sailor, who sees the point ofvwhat I'm getting at. So Careful, Icy patches must be spreading out from Hell, so be sure of good grippy footing when Walking. Best Wishes. Bob. 👍
Is the air draft 66'? To be a smaller "East Coast" American yacht 64' or (preferably) less would be ideal...can a slightly short mast be ordered for American buyers?
@@SVTONICBoatWives 65' is the limit on the intracoastal waterway, or under that...and yes for fixed bridges...only a few US built 40' boats these days, but all under 65'. Market must be too small for Euro builds, etc.
Quality issues and rudder wires falling, when heading to the wind over 42 degrees . All according the price . For charter is perfect, easy and cheap to repair. Drunk people destroy it anyway.
@@ryan2manyfishburgh595 Just for you on this video I left a load shut, after your last comment, still just for you on the next one I will open them all twice. ;)
Welcome back!
Good job showing the boat.
Not my style but seems functional.
@@jimlucier7968 Thank you, and I won’t leave it so long next time,
Some interesting updates on the Charter Version of the Dufour 44 - the Engine now to be the 76 hp Yanmar ; an excellent change imho, due to the far superior availability and pricing of parts Globally. I had heard that the standard Charter Draft was going to be 5 ft 3 inches which cheered me up as I could get by with that for a couple of years before having the Custom Lead Wing Keel fitted bu that does seem still in flux as I was notified that it is likely to be 5 feet 8 inches at the Moment. Jamie the Agent has done a wonderful job with the interior design, the silly Hexagonal Saloon Table is still an option, but the scope of optional changes without that Table has been expanded interestingly. The Range of Option packages to Suit Easy and Ocean versions, remains pretty Decent it appears. No news on a 2 Cabin version as yet, but it is easy enough to de Cabin a third Cabin in favour of Storage, Workshop, or whatever anyway. Fair play to Dufour, as they appear to be taking Suggestions and Recommendations via Agents very seriously in their ambition to shift their Emphasis towards Cruising. Reasons to be cheerful Part 4. A Big Well done and deep gratitude to all Concerned. Bob. 👍🌟🌟🌟❤️
The boat is nice. It's not bad, although it's not in my top 10 on my wish list for Santa. Not even in my top 30. I was recently on one and I think it's a nice floating apartment. Among the things I didn't like at all is that only God and Olivier Racoupeau know where the anchor chain is. Also, the weight of the ballast is top secret, which seems suspicious to me.
@@marcoquiros1393 It’s a funny thing with the anchor chain as Dufour seem to have the same hide and seek game as well.
Nice look see of the boat, Sad about the ridiculously deep 5 ft 7 inch Shoal Draft as commented on below. Best Wishes and Fair Winds. Bob. 🤔🌟🌟🌟👍❤️
@@brownnoise357 I new the draft would get you, as I was going out into the Solent I could here your voice in my head, not a bad boat if you can sort out the draft, and you are definitely right. This is a good fare weather boat but.!!!
@@SVTONICBoatWives 😄 I'm definitely predictable when it comes to basic necessities to maximise the number of places to get into and out of, which means Shallow Draft to have access into Estuaries, small Rivers at high tide, plus to run to Small Bays to get shelter from Storms and enough depth to Anchor at low tide, then at the other end is a low Air adrift so you can fit under the largest number of Bridges possible. plus get under power lines and Telephone cables that cross Estuaries and small rivers. I've spent most of my life loving exploring such places, and anchored up a river or drying out on a Bilge, eel boat as wildlife starts moving as dusk draws in, with a nice e glass of Whisky listening to birds roosting forcthe night, with the sound of f,owing water or the waves gently crashing ashore really takes some beating, but none of it is possible with a Deep Dradt and very High Air Draft Mast Sadly, and its a hell ofva thing to even consider giving up. So my Apologies if it is getting a bit of a StuckmRecord and Boring. Oh PS. It looks as though a Charter Spec Dufour 44 comes with a 5 ft 3 inch Draft, and a Much larger engine of 57 hp which may due to the Yanmar Training of Charter Mechanics, actually be a Yanmar (if so, I can then fit the 80 hp with the ZF Saildrive ) , and a 40 foot Air Draft Selden in Mast Furling Mast shouldn't be a problem, then changing the Forward Berth to a s,ightly Offset Pull an seems OK, so All Bulkheads will be in the Right places for a Setag Yachts full interior Redesign and Refit, after the boat is about 5 years old. Other Mahor benefits include the throwing in of Packages as deal sweeteners, cuch as Comfort, Mooring, anchoring , Safety, Lifejackets, Flares and Liferaft, plus instrument packages and Air con with generator packages, either straight up included, or at massive discounts ? Seems the years spent as a Negotiator, haven't been wasted. Grins. Now if I an only live long enough for the Piggy Bank to Fill up ? Oh almost forgot, Suit of Sails packages for Charter Sailboats are made to be extra Durable, and made UV Resistant, which is why they are still generally in pretty good shape after 5 years of use. I've picked up a lot of useful info in the past few weeks, and tacking on an order to help a Charter Company hitbits order targets can certainly pay off it seems. Grins. Best Wishes and Fair Winds. Bob. 🤔🌟🌟🌟👍❤️
Manufacturers want to keep their CE Cat A classification. The volume of this boat makes it comparable to say a 44’ from only a few years ago. Expecting a draft of less than 1.7m 5’ 7” is not realistic. Want to mud crawl, back to a bilge keel Westerly, advantage you will be sailing really slowing if you ram it on the mud 🤭 Beneteau 40.7 has 2.4m draft, shallow is 1.9m
@@martinjohnson4264 Kindly state what exactly is unrealistic about the use of Wing Keels which easily allow a useful Shoal Draft.Frankly recommending going back to a Bilge Keel is quite insulting, given there is only one Boat Builder who builds an equivalent and excellent Twin Keel option, and that is Sirius Yachts. Frankly, if you just Suck at Navigating up Estuaries and into the upper Reaches of Rivers, just admit it and you won’t have to make ridiculous comments about what in your rather ignorant opinion is Realistic would you. 🤔
@@martinjohnson4264 Frankly, if you even have a boat, have you ever taken it out of a Marina, or the Mediterranean ? You say Beneteau 40.7 has a 2.4 mtr Draft as if it is a good thing,and same for supposedly shallow but not shallow at all is 1.9 mtr you clearly have no idea how much trouble a Draft of 1.9 mtrs can get you into, in many parts of the World that are very popular for Sailing. One example, try not running aground travelling the ICW with that Draft or in places like the Bahamas - though with care accessing and leaving Marinas you should be ok, which rather wrecks the pleasures of Anchoring Out, and the huge number of Estuaries and Rivers to explore that such stupid Drafts, and excessively Tall Air Draft Masts totally rule out. I am very lucky to have done to death Sailing in the Mediterranean in the 1960’s and 1970’s before it became a chronically Overpriced Bureaucratic Nightmare, so do the World a Favour and Stick with your opinions in what is now the irrelevant Puddle called the Mediterranean eh ?😡
Not just for American Buyers who go Cruising and not Racing. The Air Sraft issue should be an easy Fix, as I'm going to be able to order a 40 foot Air Draft Selden Mast with in Mast Furling, so any Commissioning agent should be able to do the samefor safe clearance for Bridges and Powerline/ Telephone line clearance up Estuaries and Rivers Globally ? The big issu for Cruisers though is that damned minimum Draft of 5 ft 7 inches, which is nowhere near shallow enough, and the boat itself is too Small to bother with the significant expense of the design, construction, delivery and fitting of a Custom Lead Wing Keel just to o tain a Shallow enough Draft. The Cons of going with a Lifting Keel option if one is even available, Co tinge to Rulecthem out for me to be able to get a minimum Draft of below 3 foot. To me, a Sailboat of between 43 and 45 ft LOA is the maximum likely size for opting for a Custom Keel tbh - that is a back of a Postcard rough calculation though , and the CAD Keel Design Software should easily confirm details. As the nice SV Tonic Ladies know all too well, I'm getting really cheesed of with Boatbuilders not embracing the terrific opportunities offered by Wing Keels for Cruising Spec Sailboats, so I'll finish with Best Wishes and Fair Winds. Bob in Wales. 🤔🌟🌟🌟👍
Good job showing the boat. Interesting, hanse have good innovations but really on the charter side. Focusing on comfort and lacking on performance. For futur showing. What about Dehler in the 40 foot range. Do they have plans to upgrade the 42. If you can get on the 38 or the 42 that’d be nice. Thank you for all the videos…
@@Charles5882 I had a good look at the Dehler 46 last year, and I have a feeling there will be a smaller one at La Rochelle this year. I will do what I can to get around it and post my findings for you.
@@Charles5882 If I remember Right, Dehler are one of the Bost Vuilders that have totally lost the plot with the extreme Depth of the Draft of their Keels, but downright gorgeous with their Below Deck Layout and Finishing, which sort of defeats the point of having a Cruising Sailboat imho. Somewhat Surprisingly, I've been getting some agreement with my views from a Successful Racing Sailor, who sees the point ofvwhat I'm getting at. So Careful, Icy patches must be spreading out from Hell, so be sure of good grippy footing when Walking. Best Wishes. Bob. 👍
Is the air draft 66'? To be a smaller "East Coast" American yacht 64' or (preferably) less would be ideal...can a slightly short mast be ordered for American buyers?
@@ezmn9663 I don’t know if a smaller size is available, is it because of all the bridges you guys have?
@@SVTONICBoatWives 65' is the limit on the intracoastal waterway, or under that...and yes for fixed bridges...only a few US built 40' boats these days, but all under 65'. Market must be too small for Euro builds, etc.
Any chance we may see you in Annapolis? Already bought tickets.
@@constantinealexandrakis I want to, and it is a point of discussion in our house, so we will have to see.
I would ask you to make a video with Aventura 45 catamaran
@@GMC75 if I can get on one I will,
Quality issues and rudder wires falling, when heading to the wind over 42 degrees . All according the price . For charter is perfect, easy and cheap to repair. Drunk people destroy it anyway.
@@ΣτέφανοςΚόκκαλης-τ1ν You hit the nail on the head, perfect for charter or weekend marina sailers.
price
Jealous. Great boat.
For the love of Neptune- quit opening every fricking drawer.
@@ryan2manyfishburgh595 Just for you on this video I left a load shut, after your last comment, still just for you on the next one I will open them all twice. ;)
LOL...video is already posted...LOL