Is Corvus Corax A Giant Crow Demon? | Warhammer 40k Raven Guard Lore
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0:00 Intro
2:07 Geologie
3:40 The Daemon World Of Sicarus
7:11 The Daemon appears
18:31 Lorgar And Corax. A bloody Reunion
25:05 Is Corvus Corax Actually A Daemon?
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Hey Wes hammer might want to check this out at 9:53 Audio must of cut out.
@@the-wanderer111Yea the audio for the slave's dialog is extremely soft. Still a fantastic video!
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@killer_rabbit1253 just wanted Wes to know though so it's still good video.
This was so cool. Great work and you’ve convinced me this being is definitely not a demon. I wouldn’t trust myself to be a Primarch but I’d like to have one as my Lieutenant. Or I mean… my buddy.
I'd love to see ascended Gulliman use his warp powers to file taxes better than anything else
His warp power is a scientific calculator
The Taxwalk
😂😂
Roboute: We must audit for the Emperor.
Lionel: Brother...
The most useful thing, I think, would Guilliman being able to split his mind. Allowing him to focus on multiple things at once.
As I quote the Boss
"Corvus will show Lorgar why a Flock of Crows is called a Murder"
Yooooooooo!
Ayoo
Fun fact: a flock of Ravens is called an Unkindness so lorgar about to catch that work no matter what.
@@thomash341 he gonna be dead
That line goes hard af
We know that Lorgar has basically withdrawn after this point, a lot of people seem to think out of fear but I wonder if it is something else. Lorgar saw the warp and the Chaos gods as the truth of the galaxy, and his ascension to demon prince as the ultimate embrace of the truth of reality. Yet, he just saw Corvus in his true state unbound to gods and as he was. In this ascended state Corvus pushed him back, not with the power of the gods or even the power of the Emperor but with his own power.
I think Lorgar just figured out he was lied to. He just can’t figure out what that means or what he can do about it.
ya know with that point. isn't that close to what emps sort of want for humanity? for all people to be their own individual independent of others or the warp. a power of their own will.
or i guess thats sort of what my few understanding of what the emps want.
Huh, who knew that the Emperor's chronically depressed edgy emo other bird son would be the first to get what the emperor meant
the perks of being emo is having a heart lmao.
unlike say konrad who from my knowledge is mainly edge without emo haha
Corvus was a freedom fighter, the only primarch that really was it makes sense he would discover the true nature of the primarchs and their ultimate freedom first.
@@NoTimeAllTime kinda cool when you put it that way.
corvus not only brought independence for his planet. but also achieved independence within the warp.
what a rebel! dudes ain't a mere emo no the dudes a punk!
Corvus is either vibe checking every single Word Bearer he finds in the Eye or just waiting beside the door into Lorgar's room just waiting for him to come out.
Imagine it be like the first vid of the Mandela Catalogue.
Just him going "come out Lorgar, I have a gift for you- you- you"
@@thesun5275'Coooooooooooooieee my brother! Come out come out wherever you are. I promise, I just want to play?
I also promise not to embarass you by turning into my warp form, which btw is FARRRR cooler then your puny chaos gods Demon Prince shindig', and proceed to rip off your head and spit down your neck...' 'Corvus/Sitting on the massive doorstep of Lorgar The Massive Man Baby
"Lorgar, Lorgar, come out, come out, you big fat nerd"
Lorrrrrrr-garrrrrr~ Come out to playyyyyy~
@@kinagrill Corax doing the thing with the bottles from that film 'The Warriors'.
It does bring me joy when the servants of Chaos are met with an entity more terrifying than themselves
Especially the kiddie fiddling word bearers
@@S_047you meam the sons of the emperor or the night lords (sort of)
Yeah, the hyporcisty of chaos... the cowardice... wordbeares are spineless runts.
@@S_047 They fiddle kids? never read that part, lol.
@@geeljire9247 priests .
I can imagine the lion and Gman seeing a shadow manifest and just hear "be not afraid" s a giant raven pops out and they just are like "what?!"
And then shadows tell it's me ur brother corax with belowing sound causing quake
Lion and g man what who are u
Corax it's me u old fool corax
G man really
Corax ya I'm turn into an ducking demons but still has my humanity how u been doing
Lion and g man looking at each other wtf bro
All i can see in this scenario - they both saying "Oh hi, Corvus"
Dorn summoned his strength to bend the warp to his will and exercised his tremendous powers. When he opened his eyes again, there were twice as many bunkers as before, and they are all gold plated now.
"I'm going to reinstall the palace" ~Rogal Dornafterfalling for "slavesayswhat"
Ascended Dorn would just BE a walking by fortress.
Simps are throwing money at him and Dorn be like "thanks for your donation, I will write your name to my board 😊"
hahahha that is perfect
Corvus ripping through the Warp whilst being corrupted by it, looking at the Night Lords for inspiration, fully embracing his immaterial self and forcing his own shape to his will through psychic might and psychic might alone...
Looking for Lorgar, Corvus finally proclaims _"You like to hide in the shadows of the Warp then, Brother? So be it. Then I shall become the nightmare that casts it."_
Except he's not at all corrupted by the warp
The horror and suspense of Corvus slaying the Word Bearers was amazing, and unintentionally gives weight to the theory the Carcharodons chapter are Raven Gaurd successors.
Thank you! A lot of people seem to think that they are from Night Lords geneseed. Except they don't have a tendency to murder innocents in cold blood, and then turn their still-living skin into wallpaper for their rec rooms! 😏
@@SlimRhynoisn't the theory that they are raven guard/night lord mix?
@@comradesam3382 You know what, I do believe you are correct. Wow, shows how well my brain is working 🤤
The Based Raven-Shark enjoyer vs The virgin Bat-Starscream/shark fan
@@SlimRhynothey don't slaughter "innocents" but in one short story they slaughter a hall full of imperium citizens because after demons totally beseiged and tortured the normal non military humans, their leader hoping to save who he can bows to a demon just as a Carcharadon enters. He sees this and slaughters them all.
The crazy thing is that Lorgar himself couldn’t detect any warp taint on Corvus, which is terrifying, so I am assuming that Corvus is some sort of nightmare creature who we can safely say is a perpetual and or has scary regenerative properties
The primarchs all had immense regenerative capabilities. That's why they could take so much abuse. Daemon primarchs just have warp juice and cheat
@@Scheisskopf79 well corvus is able to be whatever he is now and somehow doesn’t have any warp taint
People talk of transformation to a birddaemon but that isnt the case. Read it several times. Lorgar cant tell difference between Istvaan 3 corvus and corvus facing him off. He boasts and mocks corvus until Corvus reveals to Lorgar that his stealth abilities are also far more stronger than before. And that his terror tactics are not so pathetic of Konrad and his legions torture. Instead his terror tactic is simply to let the enemy now justice has arrived.
What are you talking about? When does Corax regenerate in this story?
Local goth literally too angry to be stopped and be corrupted by anything but his endless hatred
Corvus is my primarch. When I was a teenager I chose the angsty Raven Guard as my chapter and haven't turned back in 15 years. I love the Lorgar v Corax story, but I've always felt it got a bad rap. I love Majorkill, but everytime he mentions "Bird Daemon Corax" I die a little inside. I'm glad you mentioned his shadow walk ability, but I think there is something everyone is missing.
The Warp enhances your powers, and conditions them based on who you are on the inside. This usually creates demons and warp entities who turn to their most base desires. Corax has, and always will be, a good guy. He cared deeply for his Legion, like a family, and spent the entire Horus Heresy seeking revenge and using what little he had to run terrorist tactics. He never lost who he was, just wanted to seek justice. He's doing the exact same thing in the warp.
Corvus' psychic ability isn't flashy. He projects an image of emptiness into the heads of others. He spent something like 6 months on Istvaan V walking the planet naked, walking into camps and gathering intel.
Could he have become a Bird Daemon of vengeance? With metal wings and the ability to turn into birds? Or is he just fighting like a Primarch in a jumppack and lightning claws with the ability to project crazy shit into his opponent's minds? Each point in the battle points to a piece of gear that has been described, but looks different. Lightning coming out of his fingertips, birds pecking at a forcefield, taking flight or ripping apart Word Bearers.
I think Corvus is very similar to how he was, but with the significant power increase to he shadow walk.
I like this theory mine was similar if his able to vanish his presence from their mind making it look invisible. Then maybe this is him able to hijack the mind's senses and make them perceive all this when its just him as normal. Because i hate the idea of being able to transform and then bust out into millions of birds and then come back to normal form and his armor somehow is able to gain all his powers too and do all it as well it just sounds stupid.
that makes an incredible amount of sense
100% agree brother
This theory would make a lot of sense had it also not been explicitly mentioned that the wordbearers from various areas were being Mutilated simultaneously, which would not be possible is he was simply controlling how they perceive him, this transcends that.
@@zpermicide3258Welp, if a pure logician were to read Warhammer 40K stories... wow, applying logic to a fantasy which has demons and gods, hell and faster than speed of light travel through hell which apparently is everywhere and nowhere. You could've discussed logic like how Perturabo, who hated chaos, chose to become a daemon primarch, because that would be applying on a character's personality traits... But a Primarch who himself states that he has discovered their origin to be of the warp, literally called immaterium, is able to break his armor and turn into crows and then again aggregate back to the same in a place Inside this Immaterium, which is NOT material realm, you sought of applying logic here? 🤣😂
_"Corvus is, and always will be, a pretty, pretty birdy."_
- The Emperor of Mankind
It's weird how we had more info about him than any of the other missing primarchs prior to Roboute's return. I am genuinely surprised he hasn't fully returned yet.
He's too busy being batman in the warp
His return will further raise the stakes
I want Dorn, The Khan, and The Wolf back first.
He can't return.. Corax is lost to us, I'm afraid.. Not until lorgar is dead and every single word bearer torn apart will he come to his senses..
I want my dad to return :(
I so hope that Corvus Corax is the next loyalist Primarch to return soon. I can dream. 😇
I still think Rogal Dorn will return next but Corax would be cool.
@@mitrion301rogal dorn is in the palace
@@workingclassdoge5303 in his Centurion Armor ?
@@mitrion301he's making Sandcastles
man can dream brother, man can dream
I want a story about Corvus meeting Leman in the Warp.
Corvus floating around as a literal 'Raven of Death.'
Leman wandering around, sobbing, picking a fight with every demon he sees.
An OP mutual relationship with his Brother. In real life, Ravens and Wolves work well together to hunt for both to benefit from each other. It would have been OP if Leman also became a Wolven Daemon Primarch and a Shadow Daemon Primarch teamed up against a Lorgar? Oh, he better hope for all of the Chaos gods cause he'll never definitely never gonna resurrect after a battle.
I've seen the art of Leman in the warp, lemme tell you man shit looks as cool as Corvus, both together would be terrific
Corvus said so himself, that they are made out of WARP. By being inside the Warp for 10k years, he did a training montage and unlocked his ability that he possesed since birth. Just like all the other primarchs. Of course that would mean that they have to be most certainly a couple of thousand years inside the warp to accomplish such a thing.
Corvax is now made of ravens and shadows.
Is Russ made of ale and wolves?
Dorn is made of bricks
Vulkan is made of hugs
Jagatai Khan is made of speed
And... Gulliman is made of accountants and toilet seats, isn't he?
Gulliman is made of Taxes.
Guilliman is just the actual IRS if they had predictive Excel software
Gulliman is made of tax forms lmao
Konrad Curze is made up of bats and goth kids.
also Gulliman is made of depression and dad jokes
If we took what corvus said literally then it makes sense. Which might also mean demon primarchs just shot themselves in the foot, they traded their godhood, their soul to become pawns of chaos.
They sacrificed everything they are, just to become a worse version of what they already were. I would go a step further and say that the Primarchs migth be artificiall demonhost tricked into believing themself to be human in the broadest sense of the word.
That's about right, but Angron really did not want to be a pawn of chaos
@@dukedevlan5457 Angron's ascension was forced upon him. And now he can never die and know peace.
@@blackmark2899khorn gave him peace for like 8 days recently but yeah back to madness n slaughter
By that logic it also means that someone like Lorgar could have also found a way to ascend himself with pure warp essence and no 4 middlemen.
I Imagine Vulcan would have a dragon transformation: deep green metal scales, lava dripping from him and stuff. That would be top notch to look at in a model.
Or an actual incarnation of Vulkan, like a literal blacksmith who can endow each and every weapon he makes with the power of the warp.
Maybe not full transformation into a dragon but a hybrid form like Corvus. He will be the avatar of Fire and Love
All ascended primarchs are furries, and their ascended forms are just their fursonas. This is now the cannon.
That, or he'll hug the living shit out of the whole galaxy
Hybrid minis of dragon Vulcan and crow Corvus, I'd buy just 'cuz that'd be sick. Granted I'm not sure I subscribe to the primarch being a daemon, but if he were, it'd be awful poetic to see a daemon ruining other daemons. I like that kinda' stuff, using a foe's power against them.
i know is a gruesome scene but i cant hold my smile and laugh when i see this video , Corvus bringing terror and cries to the demons themselves is so dam badass and funny
even better since im a raven guard fan
Corvus showing that he and Konrad are nothing more than 2 sides of the same coin, both capable of inflict such griesly sights with the right motivantion.
Konrad was supposed to be justice, corvus is vengeance, But justice was corrupted and died, and now only vengeance remains.
@@matthewmac5787 what if Konrad was the one warped into Deliverance and Corvus the one sent to Nostramo?
Corvus is the Primarch the Imperium NEEDS. They have Guilliman, the leader of leaders. They now have The Lion, the quintessential theatre commander. Now, they need The Alpha Assassin, the Infiltrator Prince; they need The Ravenlord. Someone who can get places no one else would even dare. And, once there, still has the raw power and dancer's grace that can slit any throat, and then be gone before the first drop of blood touches the ground. Is Corax the Primarch that mankind wants? Perhaps not. But he is ABSOLUTELY the one that humanity needs. ♠️
If he can look like anyone how do you know he's not the Master of Asasins a least part of the time already?
@@josephlawler1213 I'm not sure he can look appear as just anyone. He can wraith-slip, and now can morph into various forms of spectral darkness & light, as well as a collective of various blackbirds. But I haven't heard anything about him being able to literally morph his physical being to mimic any living thing. That being said, I have certainly been wrong before, but if that is true, then it only strengthens my argument, as he would become even harder to detect his approach. He is the Alpha Assassin, the Infiltrator Prince, and long may he spread fear and death upon the places that the Imperium of Man's enemies think themselves untouchable!
Jaghatai is the one who they need.
@@Samsun55 Yes, the most sensible Primarch in the Horus Heresy
And Vulkan!
That random “I’m Batman” killed me😂🤣
Excellent video. Fantastic lore delivery. Immaculate humour.
A subscription well earned.
How very ironic that Corvus Corax has became a loyalist version of Konrad Curze.
@@crimcrusader8459Corax is the best image of the Paragon of Justice in this universe! Change my mind!
I like the idea of the Primarchs being partly miner warp gods stabilized in human form. The Lion and Raven could be aging out of their human limitations
The lion reflects on himself being a beast of caliban in one of the books so I think that's totally possible.
@@khalil7011and his teleportation ability is Powerful, if he finds a way To bring people Inside of It.
@@khalil7011 his fursona
@@everythingsalright1121 Lion got transfured
I would like to see the one of the primarchs (both Loyal/Traitor) a new special wrap power ability.
When i found out that corvus turned into a raven demon thing yet remained loyal, and even told lorgar something like they "are of the warp" it made me wonder if all the primarchs have some sort of demon form that they unknowingly suppressed even before the heresy.
imagine if rogal's demon form is just a **wall**
There is the theory that all the primarchs are lesser demons or minor chaos gods given form.
I now fully subscribe to the belief that Vulkan will eventually return with the ability to turn into a giant fucking Dragon.
@@jahrusalem3658GOD bro that would be so cool.
My headcannon is that Leman Russ is just a big ass werewolf committing war crimes on Nurgle's garden to grab Isha
We need him back so badly because he’d be such a unique case but also the ass whooping Corvus would give to anyone and god the Ravenguard are so underrated/overlooked
Aren't they?
@@inquisitorgrynthebandito2736yup both because of numbers and lack of big name characters but hey atleast Nykona Sharrowkyn is alive in stasis rn
Sanguineous soul is just watching a giant crow fucking up Chao Marines, eating popcorn, wearing a "Feather Bros" shirt
The primarchs were made with special warp juice that the Big E snagged from the warp against the Chaos Gods approval. Each and every one of them has a warp entity of decent power within them that gives them their abilities. The traitors pretty much sould their souls to unlock their warp powers but were tainted in return by their Chaos God and became their minions. Corax unlocked his potential without cutting corners and the Lion is in the process of unlocking his by beginning with his forrest walk ability. This opens the doors for other primarchs, including those we believe to be dead, to return or ascend as well; be it like Corax or the traitors. Some speculate that the leader of the damned legion is Ferrus and for all we know it now can be. His physical form was killed but that may have freed his ascended warp form where he now serves the Emperor. Sangy? Alpharius?
All possible, except Horus. Horus is dead dead. Lol
Where can I read about the Primarchs having" warp entity of decent power within them that gives them their abilities". Read almost everything but have not come across this specific piece of lore. Is the speculation of Ferrus as the leader of the LOTD also in the lore, or is all of this fanfic?
Sanguinius already turned into the Angel with his wings. His warp form is his final form that fights Horus
I absolutely love the idea that taking Chaos' bait and becoming a Demon Primarch was ONLY A SHORTCUT to apotheosis ! That's very cool. Nice one, Wes!
I think all the Primarchs can "ascend" into a more powerful form when they are in The Warp and harness the power of it.
That would mean the demon primarchs got jabaited by chaos, which I would love 😂
@@oaktownraider119all of them except Lorgar were forced unto it, except Perturabo, noone really knows how he became a demon prince
@@chocolatesquirrel2002 He used the scientific method.
its interesting that corax seemed to be content with picking the word bearers off one by one from the shadows, at least until they began to target the civilians. after which point he would reveal himself.
I NEED to see Khan as a speedster with near infinite potential energy, just running directly through enemy lines like they were made of styrofoam.
Khan could have been an entity of golden white, sun-bright being that can travel at an almost speed of light, if so.
Really enjoy listening to these! Quick note: There’s an audio glitch around 10:00 where the slave is questioned.
yeah its like it was in a more muted sound channel
You're the first comment I've seen mentioning this and thank you so much. I thought my headphones broke and I was going insane trying to figure it out
Commenting to hopefully make this visible. Even with my car volume at max the slave's responses are nothing more than a feint whisper. It's not a huge deal as you kindly caption them in your video and I was able to go back and read them, but a little confusing.
I thought Wes did that on purpose to avoid reading out the whole quote. The quote is on screen in sync with the silence.
Glad someone mentioned this. I thought my phone had issues.
Corax is like a dreadful shriek in the night that make any daemon spine shiver.
Space marines know no fear...but the Word Bearers...now have experienced it.
" I'M SAD. IT'S TOO BRIGHT. I WANNA GO BACK IN THE BOX. "
I do love the idea of the Primarchs being warp-beings in their own right. It would explain The Lion's forestwalk thing and The Sanguinor. The REAL question here is: how does the imperium, and more importantly their own legions/chapters/successors react to their now obvious warp-touched nature? Will the Raven Guard still accept Corvus as he is now or will they reject him? And the same can be asked for the others. I'm curious how it would play out--assuming it ever does (please GW *pokes with a stick* do something with the other primarchs and legions)
I am so glad that ravenguard is getting a lot of love lately from the Lorehammer community. Corvus is probably the most powerful primarch currently.
I mean hey, even GW remembered about Raven Guard with what info we know of the 4th Tyrannic war. We got a new named character(not as a mini) and a bit of lore
Loyalist or in general? Cause Magnus is stupid broken him, now him being the most punk'd of the daemon Primarchs does not help his case but I blame how inconsistent the writting can be.
@@g.sergiusfidenas6650 Magnus is a joke.
@@g.sergiusfidenas6650no, Magnus the red Is merely a Husk of One Eye Magnus for His soul is Shattered.
So he Is Right now Ultra Mega Nerfed, Angron I would say Is the strongest Daemon primark and Corax as Loyalist, Idk may Khan and Wolf boi have Some serious power ups.
The Lion and Papa Smurf are probably the most powerful, in that order. Lion banished Daemon Angron and Papa Smurf defeated Daemon Morty.
Meanwhile, this story took prolly took place nearly 10k years ago, comparably.
More importantly, does Welcome to the Black Parade play spontaneously whenever he shows up to battle
I wish someone made a fight scene about that with that music in the background XD
Clearly it's crawling by Linkin park
Ascended Guilliman: *Literally shoots pencils from his finger tips, and crashes your economy*
I've always believed the key to defeat Chaos is creating a pantheon of Order that can overpower and subdue the ruinous powers.
So hearing Wes call Corvus a "daemon of Order" makes me very happy.
9:50 Peasant's voice drowns in static, Wes :D
humanoid corvus "wait so you telling me you are forced into building structures while you are promised no form of salvation?"
human slave "yeah that about it"
monstrous corvux "OH THAT I HATE!!!!"
Ascendent primarchs sounds incredible. Imagine a dragon vulkan or leman russ turning into an actual wolf (I imagine fenris wolf from thor ragnarok)
Corax woke at last. Things went by in a flash. Killing lorgar. Waking up on deliverance. Nasturi...rising,he imediately noticed one of the apothecarys reading. Noting the raven lords rise,he saluted.
"It is good to see you up and well lord corax."
Corax nodded.
"Indeed. Where are corax and guiliman?"
"Lord commander guiliman left soon after you were safe after bidding chapter master shrike farewell,the lion soon after left for nihilus."
"I see. How long was i out?"
"A week. Although,oddly enough you were mumbling in your sleep for some reason."
"...i see. Thank you,apothecary..."
"Zachariah."
Corax nodded and began leaving the medicae. The ravenspire was always usually active when not in full wartime,many raven guard overseeing dutys or tending to passtimes. It was then one of the chaplains saluted.
"Greetings my lord,its good to see you awake."
"Likewise. Morale is good i take it?"
"Indeed,many of us were...rattled when we originally found you, however shrike was able to smooth things over once our job was done upon the world of lionis. ...another thing my lord. Shrike wishes to speak with you."
Corax nodded.
"Of course,did he say why?"
"Well...the chapter master has never been a confident one in his acencion,a topic of discussion shrike has had was the matter of sucsessor. Given you have come back to us,i can only assume that is the reason."
Corax nodded.
"I appreciate that,i will go see him soon."
Corax eventually arrived in the throne room. He mused a little in his head. A fortress home made from a jail. It was then shrike spoke.
"I...i never thought wed be speaking truth be told." Kayvann said nervously. Corax smiled a little.
"I didnt exactly imagine my path of vengeance ending in any way myself believe it or not. I heard from the chaplain regarding your...confidence as chapter master. Thats what you wished to speak to me about right?"
"...yes. my lord ive served as master of shadows for years,and i have sought a worthy sucsessor. But i think it would be more fitting if you lead us. Who better then the liberator to lead us?"
Shrike nodded and thought carefully. Then finaly spoke.
"Perhaps you are right. But that was 10 milenia ago. I have not fought beside you all,guided any of you or anything of that sort. I will take leadership of the raven guard shrike. But not before i prove that i have that right. You are a exemplar master of shadows kayvann shrike,and a man of virtue,liberty and good, things alien to the cosmos and inperium. And i can think of no better to lead us before i am worthy to lead you in all my mens eyes."
Kayvann was stunned into silence.
"I...i am grateful my lord."
"Rise shrike. In the darkness all are equal save those who give themselves to it. I may be a primarch,but i will not,and i have not forgotten where my story began. So for now,it will be your duty to lead,and my duty to be a man of the people. And i will not leave you to your fates. Never,again."
Nasturi...you can see me right? I promise...i will be the man you helped me become. For all of us. For the emporor.
To be continued...
That is some wonderful writing. Made me smile. Thank you!
Concept of ascendent Primarch is so cool for me. Firstly - it evens the ground with deamon Primarchs, who are op with power of chaos gods. Secondly, storywise its a great way to reintroduce characters to the current timeline and make us exited. And its great for making speculations what other Primarchs ascensions would look like
The khan is lightning McQueen 😂
Vulkan's ascension form must be some kind of dragon right?
@@MrFive2FiveVods yeah most likely he would get scales and his psychic essence would make him look like he is burning like a torch :D. Its an easy one. Like Russ being werewolf xD
Op? Rando space marines regularly drop demon primarchs lmao.
@@tincano-beans2114 you mean propably several dozen or hundreds regular Space marines with heavy support/highest technology enganging deamon Primarchs. Then they can drop them, numbers and enough firepower will prevail. But I can't recall any rando soloing DP. There is Kaldor Draigo... but he is bullshit incarnate and he is not no name : D. So what instances are you talking about?
I'm actually very excited about the primarchs returning, as long as it's done in a classy way.
Yes, some day left loyalists will look at the imperium together, people will be on their knees in front of them and they will be like: «we are fked, brothers»
True, Lorgar and Corax will probably come back as a pair so there’s stuff to be built on there. I do wonder if they’ll do Sanguinius and how, currently I’m thinking a kind of physchic fusion thingy between Dante and the Sanguinor. I’d say losing two named characters is a fair trade
@@doot_slayer Has to be three characters. Sangy had 3 souls. The angels of light and dark (red angel) and his mortal soul. All 3 are currently accounted for in 40k between Dante, the Sanguinor and Mephiston.
@davidhart4212 I honestly think Fulgrim is next. They have World eaters for khorne, Death guard for Nurgle etc but no nw army/ primarch for Slannesh.
@rjfrantz539 Fulgrim didn‘t disappear. Yes, he is separate from his legion but he is still there
I personally think that it is something that Lorgar learned to do after being in the warp for so long. Tapping into his spirit animal for lack of a better term. When Vulkan fought Magnus he was represented by a dragon. Maybe each loyalist primarch could manifest this when exposed to the warp long enough. The demon primarchs lost this ability when they swore allegiance to their patron god and became an aspect of their chaos patron.
Corvus Corax literally being like Eric "The Crow" Draven while surfing the warp, acting a bit like Venom from marvel with the symbiotic form thing and becoming a Dark Entity with good intentions is awesome
I fell like an ascended Leman would have an ability related to Fenris where he can replicate a bone chilling blizzard anywhere just like those on Fenris
nah im pretty sure his ascended power is being a wolf. i mean the entire faction is a meme of itself
Viking Werewolf with a lance, who calls tunderstorms nicknamed wolfstorms
That is an image
@aligaterr5137 ok I usually don’t like the Space Wolves but that sounds pretty fucking cool
Corvus insinuates that all the primarchs have a hidden form or power. That's backed by the lions warp teleportation through the forest and I guess the salamanders primarchs being immortal. Guilliman may have a hidden ability after all. Or he's so plain Jane he just is an amazing planner with the most standard legion.
i think Robot Girlyman has just some precognition
@@kamirostorino9416 that is an ability 2 primarchs (Sanguinius and Konrad Curze) already exhibited. Even if he displayed it at late stage I imagine it wouldn't be the only power he was gifted with.
Guilliman has the superpower of intellect, basically he's the smartest guy in the room. Limited Time travel is most likely power for him.
I’d imagine Dorn’s ascended power would make him an immovable bastion whom even the most unpredictable of Chaos wards bend to
Dorn ability is being able to manifest gold-plated bunkers that would blind someone
The thing I want to see is corax spawning into the materium. bridging the gap carrion birds circle overhead, ravens and crows gather in massive swarms. With an eerie intent the ravens gather any objects they can, almost forming a great circle. Suddenly the cacophony ceases, leaving only feathers and the dark shadow of something falling from the sky.
Imagine how nuts a warp formed Conrad would be
I don't want to. He was scary enough in "normal" form....😅
The Primarchs in my eyes have always been a mixture of the finest genetic engineering and the emperors expert warpcraft, the clue has been dropped many times that they are demi-gods and corax has learned how to embrace that form within the warp
Corvus’ demon powers seem similar to Alucard’s in Helsing.
Russ has been in the warp aswell. He could have been affected with a similar fate. Mutated into a large Wolf.
This just made Corvus my favorite primearch. Just imagine what volcan could do? Demonish fire slamandar
Corvus Corax when he sees Lorgar: It's morbin time
Imagine if Corvus unlocked that transformation early. He would have been prime material for Chaos Corruption.
Well, in both the Dornian Heresy & Roboutian Heresy AUs, he did become a lovecraftian Daemon Prince iirc
@@ChaseDaOrk3767 I think people should appreciate fanfiction more. What's so bad about some creative reimagining? If anything it shows appreciation for the world building that people wish to explore parts unknown and lose themselves more in the world the author created.
@@vladtheimpaler9577 I can see where you're coming from
You shut your mouth, the Raven Guard belong loyal
@@vladtheimpaler9577 Because they don't know when to stop, for the vast vast majority they do not know when a mystery is better left unspoken, they do not know when an issue of scale presents itself, they blow their load and everything after is bland.
As Warhammer was not made by a single genius level intellect those same pitfalls can apply to individual writers as well, hence why in certain fandoms the community as a larger whole disregards certain material, such as the pacific rim sequel being the most well known one (to be discarded)
Obsessive fans can very well see a mystery and need it answered, overlooking the mystery itself for their next fix, to the detriment of the work itself - that's why it's not mainlined more.
I'd like to add that even though Corax has been developing his powers through 12,000 years and the Lion "just woke up" and learned to Forest Walk, in his novel it's shown that the Forest is basically in the warp. He was guarded by a xenos race that was awaiting for his time to wake up and he wakes up without any memories. Also, he has to spend time meditating and clearing his mind to be able to master this ability.
With all that said, it's not that far of a stretch to say thay the Lion could have been developing his abilities all this time, even if he was asleep, and thay Corax's abilities needed another kind of practice to develop themselves - the hunting kind of practice.
Actually I have a theory about all of this. When they first revealed how Corax became "Invisible" I thought what if he could reverse it? What if instead of psychically telling a mind "You don't see me", Corax can tell the mind to see him a certain way. Similar to the glamor of the Emperor, but uses it to disguise himself as other "things". I always wondered if he could do it, and I think he can.
in a logical and practical standpoint i agree. consider that if you have the ability to control perception than it naturally would go both ways in different shapes and levels. i mean his entire emo is to adapt based on enviorment to his advantage rather than lets say magic, raw power or strategy.
In my head cannon all the found primarchs had different memories implanted after the lost 2nd and 11th. Sort of like the emperor told them each one know the most info on what happened but only that primarch could be trusted. Since Corax wasn't found yet the emperor had to tell him the truth so Corax wouldn't hear all the different stories and start snooping. That's why he was told about the warp and given the rapid gene seed process. It also let him learn how to use his warp powers with out the chaos gods tempting him. On a side note, I think that's why the emperor trust the Lion so fully, because he didn't need to erase the lost primarchs from his mind.
It also just makes sense that the primarks that comes back get some new power. The traitors turned into demons and that was their thing, so now it’s the others turn
When Vulkan comes back he gets Guilliman’s respawn but better lmao
G-Man got none unless being used by the Emperor as a puppet counts, the flaming sword is cool though.
@@g.sergiusfidenas6650 the flaming sword perma kills demons, that is his power.
When all the Primarchs keep killing each other because they've all become their Warp Entity selves and just keep respawning after dying
@@g.sergiusfidenas6650rowboat is different seeing as he needed to be healed i think
I don't think any other Primarchs can ascend (good term) as Corax has. They don't have the singular focus. All of them serve an entity larger than themselves. Corax has ascended because he has dedicated his entire being to an ideal. Much like Abaddon, the Emperor, and, Hell, the Chaos Gods have. Long story short, if you are a creature of immense psychic power, it makes sense to believe in yourself and your mission. Be the change you want to see Corvus!
Also, it is also mentioned that the Emperor said to him privately all of the possible secrets of the universe and maybe even how to manipulate his true nature, to become an ascended being that is not being controlled nor tainted by the chaos, but harness the power of the warp itself. He could do it to the other Primarchs and teach them about it.
@paulandreig.sahagun34 That being the case, it would be neat if there was a small sect of the Inquisition that was dedicated to finding him in the Warp. For one thing, if E trusted him with ALL the secrets, Corax might know how to revive him. For another, Corax wants to use his warp abilities to wipe out all warp-tainted beings in the galaxy, including himself. That's a pretty Inquisition-y idea!
I feel like Corvus Corax is a tale of tragic circumstances, though he remains loyal, his condition makes everyone, including himself, seen as traitorous. I only hope that in future stories, he would get his redemption, perhaps with a happy ending with either Roboute or Lion.
it actually makes sense that Corvus would operate actively on Sicarus, it´s like a throwback to his liberation of Lycaeus.....maybe GW trying to set something up and Corax will actually fck up Word Bearer´s own homeworld?
Would go along well with his "Liberator" nickname from the past, although I´m not sure how much help he could get from tortured slaves lol
Not sure how much a group of people inured to horrors with nothing to live for on a planet where only the wards are holding out literal daemons from hell can be helpful? Ask again after a few suicide squads bring down the wards.
This is true I do wonder what happened to the freed people of sicarus after the word bearers fled.
@@Demicleas Not likely anything good. Either the wards failed without the Word Bearers to maintain them, wiping them out; or a sorcerer takes control of the population and they end up the same they were before
Judging from how he appears in his human form before fighting Lorgar and then reappears bloodied and bruised at the end, the conclusion I’ve reached is that he can control and manifest shadows around him but still has some sort of physical root at the middle of his maelstrom. Otherwise I am not sure why he or his armor would take damage if he is just a massive shadow, or why his armor would still be usable to him if he can switch between physical and immaterial at will.
Anyway, this is making me wonder if something similar to Corax in this story happened to Leman Russ, since the Space Wolves found his armor in the Temple of Horus when they searched the Eye of Terror. If we can have a Raven made of pure shadow fighting against the Daemon Primarchs, imagine a Wolf of the same nature joining him. That is a book I want to see.
That sounds awesome. I always thought that the ravens and the wolves would have good synergy in battle. Leman to take the fight head on but still having the mind of a hunter while Corvus remains hidden but springs out in a brutal fury. Kinda like Gork and Mork in a way
Agreed. Especially since Leman Russ was the Emperor’s executioner, so him joining Corax on a crusade for vengeance against the traitors would make a lot of sense.
Honestly I love the fact that Lorgar still recognized his brother even after so long and in a different form. Idk to me it feels like a twisted form of love for his brother
If they end up bringing ascended primarchs into the canon, I would love to see some tie-in with the 2nd and 11th primarchs.
I get why they left those squads open from a tabletop-perspective, but I think this ascension would fit in well with the lore…seeing as how Big E tends to suppress the truth often.
Could be fun if the chaos maybegod Malal has been helping Corvus out. A blanket hatred of the chaos gods and desire to hurt them all in any way possible sounds like something it would love.
Imo an ascended Guilliman is a literal antithesis of Chaos itself.
*Order*
On a side note, the Lion managing to acquire a warp based ability is a really Lion thing to happen given that his instinct is always sharp and might've led him to subconciously develop his warp ability similar to how he can change the tradjectory of his sword swings or slashes by instinct.
I think we've already witnessed what Guilliman's power is and, as you've observed, it is anti-Chaos. What is Chaos? Entropy. Guilliman sat in stasis for 10,000 years slowly regenerating in spite of entropy. He persisted. Guilliman's power is, literally, "I'm not going anywhere."
I was drawn to the Raven Guard the most out of all of the legions and watching this video has solidified my choice. I have my legion.
I love reading the books from the Chaos point of view, so terrifying to see what they are doing in their spare times whilst fighting against something which seemingly is more powerful than them. Love when you read these depictions
Thanks Weshammer! You sure know how to talk about Warhammer mate. As a beginner I can honestly say that you(your wonderful and intricate videos) were DEFINITELY one of the defining factors in cementing my interest in Warhammer 40 k!
Thanks a bunch mate.
Kind regards, Kirei!
Absolutely fucking agree
Thank you for making this video, I’m a Tyranid collector who thinks some of the space marines in the new box are too cool to give away and recently decided to make them raven guard, they’re an underdog who care for human life and their primarch is still alive. Epic faction
Corvus has ALWAYS been my favorite primarch, no words can describe my arous- i mean excitement.
Loved this video. Great editing, great content, not wasting too much time while still taking a moment to speculation and theory crafting.
Congratulations! Hope you can make many more of these!
Some audio cut out around the 9 minute mark Wes 😅 otherwise amazing video!
I was gonna say the same but wanted to catch a comment before I added my 2 cents. Amazing so far
this gives hope to Leman Russ also returning having Ascended into a master of furries, being able to summon convention sized legions of growling, yiffing terrors.
My favourite part was when Corvus said "Its Corvin time" and then proceeded to Corax all of the Word bearers.
This is the most idiotic thing i have read all day and i still laughed my ass off 😌 be proud
Not to discount the powers that Corax has demonstrated, but I wonder if any of his sons are currently with him in the Eye of Terror also hunting down chaos astartes? I ask because Nykona Sharrowkyn demonstrated that he had his father's wraithslip ability when he dueled, and beat, Lucius. It would be cool to see a whole flock of raven demons hunting chaos.
24:21 Probably for the first time Lorgar felt fear for his life, he's seeing Corax's "monstrous" visage. A monster that will never stop hunting him.
Corax was always overlooked by many dispite being one of the better combat Primarch's. Now imagine Sanguinius fully embracing his Warp, nothing but the Emperor could stop him.
I would love to see ascended Vulkan use his warp powers to give everyone a hug
If the theory of Corax actually being locked in the Raven Spire and this apparition is a psychic manifestation of his powers, Holy Crap. Either way, CC is epically strong and Loyal. Cool.
If we put a pile of bird seed outside the eye of terror would that draw Corvus out of the Warp?
I think it's clear every Primarchs has some degree of psychic ability, whether they're overt and general like Magnus, specific and physical like Corax's stealth, specific and mental like Sanguinous or Kurze's foresight, or specific and emotional like Angron's former empathic ability. The Lion literally dreaming up a warp-adjacent ghost of Caliban during his long sleep fits. That gives the writers a lot of fertile ground to play with after 10k years.
*'This is no daemon.'* Lorgar Aurelian, on seeing Corvus Corax in the Warp
Plain & simple!
Having Corvus become a giant crow demon is super cool!
Man, I love these short stories so much! Keep up the good work wes
Hey Wes hammer might want to check this out. 9:53
I have a theory of Corax based on this story and from what we have learned. I think he has been influenced by chaos, but not in the form the other primarchs have. I think Corax is in a similar position to what Magnus the Red has been in before he fell completely. For those who dont know what im talking about: Magnus was known to have made deals with the ruinous powers, later known to be Tzeench in this case, to save his chapter, The Thousand Sons, from turning into warp mutated flesh abominations due to their insane psychic abilities. Now we know for a fact that Corvus Corax wouldnt fall to the likes of the Four Gods. However, what about the fifth? The rumoured and unknown Chaos God of Destruction and patron of the Sons of Malice known as Malice. Yes i know that Malice isnt officially canon, but those who worship him are so we know he is rumoured to exist. Now as we know, Corax is basically on a Vendetta against the traitor primarchs. Searching for every single one and trying to destroy them for good. And from what we know from the Sons of Malice is that they are against chaos. They want to rid the galaxy of the four main gods. So maybe Corax and Malice struck some kind of deal since Corax has been in the warp for so long. Now Corax wouldnt want to be Malice's champion or most blessed and prized son and to be ascended to a demon prince. So maybe they did a deal similar to that of what Magnus and Tzeench did. Malice would only give Corax enough of his destruction energy to rival those of the demon primarchs, but in return, Corax wouldnt be Malice's demon primach, but will have to aid in completely ridding the galaxy of the Chaos Gods. Which in all fairness is what the Imperium is trying to do regardless. Now we can also possibly find evidence of this in the colours Corax sports when he uses these new found abilities. Now the trademark colour of Corvus is black. We all know this. However, he also turns into a white version of this shadow form of his. What are the Sons of Malice's trademark colours? Black and White. If Corvus Corax just remained as this black shadowy being, it could just be written off that he gained these abilities from the influence of the warp. But that one detail that he turned into a white shade might make it more clear that he had something to do with Malice. Again. Just a theory
Absolutely love the addition of text and voice overs for this works phenomenally with your style keep it up man
How sweet of corax to play hide and seek with lorgar and his legion
Only difference is it's lorgar and the word bearers who are always hiding permanently once corax see's them
Also wes love your videos man you really sum up the lore and very welcoming to a new person coming to 40k can i also ask will you ever talk more about robot and lion
I like the demon primarchs (except Lorgar and fulgrim) but do think that Big E will try and save the traitors and bring them back to help save humanity
The big E will probably try to save only Magnus, he is probably the only one worth trying
I think he might but with how the most recent emperor's speech to bobby g I think he either doesn't feel the same way or knows better than to try and save them after the heresy.
@@Sp1ne_Stealer mean big E said even stinky boi is equally a victim in this whole thing and could find redemption one day. Tho Horus and Kurze are most definitely beyond saving.
Dark apostle: omg it's a daemon
Lorgar: lmao it's no daemon *it's worse*
The voice of the slave can almost not be heard 9:57
Wake up honey new Weshammer video just dropped!
I need a horror show based around random chaos marines encounters with Corvus corax
"I have your scent now, Lorgar."
That's....one hell of a threat lol
Well, according to The Lion, Guilliman is really good at focusing on many different things at once. An "accended" fourm as you put it would probably be something similar to The Emperor's ability to split up his personality across the galaxy. What would that look like? I'm not sure.