Don't miss out: Fujifilm tips for beginners in 2024
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- Опубликовано: 23 июл 2024
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00:00 - 2:20 Intro
02:20 - 2:57 Who is Evan Schneider?
02:57 - 6:08 Which Fujifilm camera would you pick for video?
06:08 - 09:12 What are F-Log & F-log2?
09:12 - 11:51 Does DaVinci Resolve support F-Log color management?
11:51 - 13:56 Why is it that the F-Log2 base ISO differs?
13:56 - 16:16 Exposing for F-Log
16:16 - 17:39 Have you used EL-Zone on Fujifilm yet?
17:39 - 20:09 Camera Workflow & Colour simulations
20:09 - 21:50 [Rant] Where are my Fujifilm Updates??!
21:50 - 23:22 [Q&A] Why does my F-Log2 get blown out?
23:22 - 24:46 Evan's experience with EF-FX2 adapters
24:46 - 26:53 Favourite Fuji X lenses for video
26:53 - 30:40 Full Frame or Super 35 (APS-C)
30:40 - 32:58 What's your go-to ND filter?
32:58 - 33:50 Outro
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Timestamps:
00:00 - 2:20 Intro
02:20 - 2:57 Who is Evan Schneider?
02:57 - 6:08 Which Fujifilm camera would you pick for video?
06:08 - 09:12 What are F-Log & F-log2?
09:12 - 11:51 Does DaVinci Resolve support F-Log colour management?
11:51 - 13:56 Why is it that the F-Log2 base ISO differs?
13:56 - 16:16 Exposing for F-Log
16:16 - 17:39 Have you used EL-Zone on Fujifilm yet?
17:39 - 20:09 Camera Workflow's & Colour simulations
20:09 - 21:50 [Rant] Where are my Fujifilm Updates??!
21:50 - 23:22 [Q&A] Why does my F-Log2 get blown out?
23:22 - 24:46 Evan's experience with EF-FX2 adapters
24:46 - 26:53 Favourite Fuji X lenses for video
26:53 - 30:40 Full Frame or Super 35 (APS-C)
30:40 - 32:58 What's your go-to ND filter?
32:58 - 33:50 Outro
Hope this helps out! have a nice evening
you're an angel
Love this! The three of us gotta hop on a call soon 🎥
Bro lets do it!! dm me
I want that to happen too 🤓
This would be awesome!
Someone’s got to mention the XH2s’ 14 bit readout in Flog 2 🥲🙏🏽
It’s such a key factor that doesn’t get talked about much. It’s a great talking point for XH2s Flog 1 vs Flog 2, as well as XH2s vs any other fuji camera… AS WELL as the XH2s vs any other prosumer camera haha.
Waiting for this
I didn't have time to make time stamps, it will come soon unless someone want to get a head start :)
Also, this is NOT the gfx video. It's coming soon.
Working on them! currently enjoying the video though ;) +/- 30m and ill comment them
@@finn4240 I owe you!
I feel like fuji gang is such a united community. I'm glad fuji "gave" us the xh2s so not only we can keep gathering to talk about our gear, but to also use the best prosumer camera on the market
Same - hopefully they listen to us as well!
I love fuji, i'm happy I made the switch for 2024.
Flog2 is amazing! With practice you can create some magical stuff!
FACTS
Just looking at the thumbnail and seeing „Cine Dailies“: I know that it is going to be a great video 🔥
haha more to come!
Thanks again for having me on, feels like we never have enough time!
I know right! Can't wait for the next one!
Please do get together again and possibly with Serr. I'm a Canon fanboy since the late 80s. Delved in Nikon in the 90s and then went back to Canon. But I got my loved one a FUJI XT3 3 years ago. Ive been planning and saving to fully go to Fuji this past months so I could join her.
I envy you guys but I'm very thankful for the continued love for Fuji. Fuji is an amazing cam indeed the past 5 years.
I hope you can someday talk about the Fujinon MK Cinema Series zoom someday as not many people know Fuji has been in the cinema business for years now perhaps not just in the camera until the HS2s. Bless you guys.
Love seeing this! I put out a video yesterday on using film recipes for video and I always like hearing other people address this idea!
Needed this! Excited to see the video, keep it up. Greetings from Germany.
Hope you enjoyed it!
Small correction: recording in linear does not require more data to store it. Linear gamma means that no tonal mapping has been applied to the image after being put through the ADC. The reason we don’t record in linear is because the image it produces is not akin to what the human eye sees, thus the whole purpose of gamma curves.
The reason we shoot with a logarithmic gamma curve is because it “saves” tonal data that might otherwise be inaccurately translated as the image is read from 12-bit and stored in 10 or 8 bits.
It’s pretty much like if you raised the shadows on a raw image, exported it to jpeg and raised the shadows some more, and comparing it to raising the shadows on an original jpeg without the aforementioned raw pipeline. The difference in shadow detail would be quite evident, as well as the difference in noise.
Notes!
Hm, I feel like this point about Linear is a bit misleading. You can’t store the full range of a linear image within a h265 or ProRes file, or something similar. So I mean, I guess what you say is sorta correct in that you “could” encode your h265 in linear and it wouldn’t use more data than LOG encoding, but you also would be throwing away tons of data and your image would never look right.
It would be more helpful to acknowledge which formats actually CAN store a linear image correctly, and talk about how much massively larger they are than a LOG encoded h265. EXR for example. linear EXR is a great intermediate format for VFX but obviously not ideal for acquisition if file size is even a remote concern.
I love the images of what I get out of flog2 and I’ve also been enjoying the Braw using the video assist for the xh2s. It looks softer and you can get a real film looking image from the sensor but it takes awhile to get use to using the Braw.
love that
What a great conversation, I loved every minute of it.
thanks for watching Mark! The GFX video is next
This was great info! Thanks!
Truly love my xs20 paired with Sirui nightwalker. Amazing set start with. Lightweight, great image quality and outstanding battery life and can even be upgraded with a ninja or blackmagic recorder if you want to record in raw.
Best choice for beginners imo.
What a course!!! Thank u!!!
Our pleasure!
Super helpful video!! JUST got my XT5 yesterday, happy to be officially #fujifam !! Would love more talk on F-Log 2; settings, colour grading, etc.
Let's goooo, such a great hybrid. And yeah we will dive more into that. Also watch the first video we made. We talk about workflow a bit more in that one
@@CineDailies awesome, thank you!!! 🙏
Great chat Joshua! I'm looking forward to the advanced topics.
Thanks for watching Josh!
Glad I got the XH2s. It’s so versatile!
Such a sleeper camera
Love to see more Fuji content
More to come!
Excellent video. This chat was really good with so much important information. I confess that I invested in VNDs and Mist among them. To this day I haven't used Mist. But I intend to use it, despite understanding your advice. But I need to test and "make mistakes". LOL
Glad it was helpful! Haha yes yes it's true, make your own mistakes. Heck you might even like it! Let me know haha
@@CineDailies haha yes! I'll let you know.
Yoooo that was soooo in time for me, cuz im buying xs20 next week(having small budget here in Ukraine its kinda sh** ton of money, so picked it like baby xh2s😂
Feels like its gonna be sooo hard to learn all this stuff after shooting with my sony zv1, but i really wanna get into it and film RUclips videos and even some commercial work
You asked for questions for the next video. Can you give a simple, bottom line recommendation for which Data Level setting is appropriate (video range or full range)? Or maybe basic scenarios where one is appropriate vs the other? I tried to read up on it and what I found just makes my head spin.
All I do is record cooking shows for publishing to RUclips. I use F-Log 2 because I need maximum dynamic range to capture white plates and such on the table, as well as skin tones. Based on what I've read, I "think" video range is the correct option, but I'm not sure and I'm not even sure if it would matter one way or the other for what I'm doing. I edit in FCP.
sure - if you are filming in Pro Res, Use video range. If you're using H.264/5 use Full range.
@@CineDailies thank you! I use H.265.
My List: 1. I keep getting stumped in Davinci Resolve when setting up my timeline settings and node tree to grade F-LOG2 2. X-H2S, I video musical performances of one or two singers with a piano, autofocus sometimes gets confused. Manual would be hard in these cases.
Thanks for commenting! I highly recommend watching the first Fuji talk video! We talk about nod tree structure and a simple workflow .
As for the AF - this is a classic case of the xh2s needing subject tracking. But in that situation, you'll have to determine what's more important. If the artist performance and facial expressions are important use the eye tracking mode.
If you need to do a mix of objects and talent, you need split the difference and use multi unfortunately. And dial in the speed and sensitivity
Just came from Serr’s new video. Both videos are seriously making me consider switching systems for my next camera upgrade.. well when I have the budget 😅
Go for it!
or at least rent it first ha
Ha that’s true, but just a hobbyist here. I got a Sony a7c in 2020 before they put 10-bit in all of their cameras 😭. Just gonna keep practicing and learning the techniques of filmmaking in the meantime 🤘🏼
Yeesss I’m just happy you posted 😂
I hope it helps!
The Linear / LOG convo was really insightful even though I probably wont ever deviate from LOG or RAW
Yeah those are pretty much the standard now
also guys- X-T5 6.2k is still 16:9 instead of 3:2 open gate.
the 4k isn't oversampled unless heavy crop, and rolling shutter is worse than X-S20 as well. X-S20 over X-T5 any day for video.
Yep!
preach that EL ZONE! it's everyting. great video gents!
From the mountain top!
EL Zone is only with the smallhd monitor?
THANK YOU
WELCOME!
X-H2S User here, very informative! i love this type of discussion videos on your channel:) Evan talked about linear/log encoding. I often hear about "non-linear" encoding/"BRAW is a non-linear codec". Does it mean it's Log (bc yeah Film Gamma is very log like) or is it a regular gamma curve? I get more and more confused as I dig deeper in this topic.
Thanks for watching! And yeah that something new for me too. Certainly we can dive into that a bit more
Pumped for this video. Question for your advanced video. Fuji released an IDT for FLOG2 to ACES. It's a CTL file. How do you use the .CTL file if you grade in resolve? Do you have to rescript it to a DCTL or is there an intermediate step I'm missing?
Greaaatt question and we’ll tackle that one for sure
I always use Arri logc3 for flog2, they have really similar curves and it's an easier workflow
I recently purchased the F-Log2 LUTs pack recommended here, but I can't seem to find any information on how to apply them in DaVinci Resolve. Could you advise on the correct setup for the Color Space Transform (CST) node? Specifically, what should be the Input Color Space, Input Gamma, Output Color Space, and Output Gamma?
I am working on personal video using fuji x-s20. Most video workers use full-frame, Sony, etc., so do I have to change to full-frame Sony to make a video? I kept thinking about it. But after watching this video, I thought I could continue working with a fuji camera. AF's lack and focus problems always follow, but anyway, I should improve my skills without blaming the equipment. Thank you for the video💥
XH2 is the best out there!
Yeah it's pretty solid
I would love it if Fuji added shutter angle to the XH2s.
Same but at least we have 1/48
Thanks. I would like to hear about the ND and all other filters used in making films. more like a guidance. Also, more about BTC of using x-h2s camera during making a project etc. Cheers again
for sure - what's BTC?
Sorry I ment BTS, behind the scene while you shooting your projects using Fujifilm camera to see how they work in actions. Cheers mate
@@CineDailies
Great video. I'm looking forward to your video on the GFx camera not that I can afford it . Just looking forward to seeing how it works for film making. Also I really really hope we get an update to the xh2s and the xs20 that adds touch to track in video . I also hope they finally add the red record box to the xh2s. I don't understand why it's not there already. Would be cool if they gave us more control over the iso in f log 2 and even 1. I understand why they have it set that way but it's weird how we can adjust any size of data rate for shooting videos in most cases . It's not limited and set more strict like it is in say a sony camera is when you choose different codecs. If that makes sense . What I'm trying to say is why give us training wheels in one case and wide open choices the next ? I have no issues with it suggesting the iso but, why lock us in ?
I'm not sure if I'm following you on the second part about more control over flog 2 and 1. what else would you need? Pro Res has fix data bit rates, h.264/5 has variety of bit rate options in camera. But with pro res you have 3 data rich options, LT, 422, and HQ.
@@CineDailiesdidn't mean to confuse. While I do know there are no options to adjust bit rates in pro res . That's part of what I'm saying. If you choose h.265 or 4 the rates are adjustable while on my Sony they are not as flexible. I just wished they allowed us to have more flexibility when it came to shooting in f log 1 or 2. Give us more options when it comes to iso like they do with the data rates. Especially on cameras that do not have a clean image at those ISOs like the X-S20.
I clicked on this video so fast!
Hahaha 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
Finally 🎉
More to come !
Just pulled the trigger on an X-S20, upgrading from X-S10. Any recommendations for types of memory cards to go for to be able to handle all of the internal codec and resolution options?
Angelbird or OWC!
@@CineDailies any need for a v90 card or will a v60 do?
Light doubles with every stop so it is exponential scale. Mathematical opposite of exponent is log. For 15 stops you will have values as high as 2^15. The relative difference between 1 and 2 is same as 1 million and 2 million, however you have much more accuracy between higher values i.e. you go from 1 to 2 in a single step but it takes million steps from 1 million. So why should highlights get more accuracy than shadows? Log evens this resolution issue out.
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Subject Tracking (tap to focus) was in X-T2. I used it a lot for fashion shows but when I upgraded to X-T4 and X-H2s, it’s not there. I don’t remember if it’s available in X-T3. But Fujifilm needs to bring it to X-H2s, it is very useful
For video?? All the cameras have that feature for photo but only the gfx 100 ii has it for video now
@@CineDailies yes for video. Used it a lot for fashion shows years ago.
@@donaldmfalls that's WILD. Idk what Fuji is doing lol
@@CineDailies well this changed after Fujifilm got a new manager.
@@donaldmfalls smh what a terrible move
Fuji gang 🤙🏻
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i love my Fuji but we keep getting the short end of the stick. slow updates with firmware, resolve taking their sweet time and so on...
Totally agree
I make content for clubs and events in that type. Sometimes i switch to capcut to get quick videos out for stories. I don‘t know which codecs i should use. Any help is appreciated. Greetings from germany :)
use a smaller codec, h.264 or h.265
I got a X-S20 as my fooji juice video cam to complement my X-T5 but my GAS has me thinking maybe I should swap it for an X-H2S 😆
🤣 brotha calm yourself
Hey bro! Why you said I dont like that lens? Sirui night walker 1.2?
What do you recommend for cine lenses? It shouldn't be too expensive :)
Optically they arent good budget lenses, in my opinion.
DZO, Nisi athenas, or Carl zeiss Jena, Slr magics are great, 7artistians I would look at
@@CineDailies ... well, thanks for that heads-up. I was looking at those lenses recently.
Log vs linear isn’t about file size, it’s about dynamic range.
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It’s about both
@@EvanSchneider if your point is that raw format takes up more space than, say, H.265, then sure. But to my ears that wasn’t what was being implied. Encoding a video signal using a logarithmic curve or function doesn’t change the size of the output file, it just allows for fitting more dynamic range to be packed within the same video levels.
@32:33 you guys are great 😂
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F Log 2 on Davinci 19
What’s the reasoning over XS20 over xh2?
It's a better value and It shares more videos with the xh2s.
Why is there no direct recording to SSD on the X-H2s?
I am still surprised that the flagship and video-oriented X-H2s camera does not have a direct recording to SSD feature. This feature has become a standard today and even exists on smartphones.
In addition to the much more reasonable price of SSD compared to CFexpress, direct recording to SSD also has other advantages. This feature can make the workflow much faster and more efficient and even provide higher stability than CFexpress.
Even Panasonic has included this feature on the Lumix S5 ll x !
Not sure, but the gfx 100 ii can hahaha
evan luts really do seem great but since ive found way to transform flog2 into aces for free, I'll never go back to a lut workflow. Aces gives the image that softness everyone is looking for.
Nice! Do share that process!
Why did Evan put X-T5 over the X-H2? It's literally the same sensor but with worse video specs which is a strange decision when choosing a camera specifically for video.
Evan mentions he like its as a hybrid camera over the xh2 too. It's a better travel camera
Exactly, better form factor
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What tf is BM even doing. Flog2 has been out for like 20 months now. This is ridiculous.
I had no idea flog2 was not available in the CST and colour management menus
Your guess is as good as mine 🤷🏽♂️
It's suprising you didn't touch HLG yet. Even X-T3 has that, better than log.
I don't use HLG
I got that, but why not? It's not only for HDR video.
There is only one absolutely scientifically accurate proven multiple times undeniable true reason to buy the XH2S over the XH2 for video. ONLY if you primarily shoot 75% of your footage 4k60 in lowlight. That is the ONLY place the XH2S truly outshines the XH2. Other than that, no reason to spend those 500 extra $. No serious filmmaker will need 4k120 for more than a few seconds no serious filmmaker will pan so wildly that Rolling Shutter will be an issue. Enough of this nonsense about the XH2S being vastly superior to its younger brother. It's not! It is better by only one major reason and two minor ones...
i don't like it.
Happy February!