Great video I hope that they do do this! I would love to have the Fuji GFX 100 mark II. If it was not $7500 and also like you were talking about the other day if they made more video lenes for the setup!
I don’t think they’d go for it, especially with an X-Mount. VistaVision is just full frame, which they haven’t really shown any interest in apart from crop modes on the GFX
It seems like they don’t need to do much to make the jump. Just use the XH2s as a foundation, and build in the creature comforts of a dedicated video camera. Include things like video tools, IBIS, internal ND’s, and detachable EVF from the GFX cameras. Also stick with the cfxpress cards, and the x-mount to allow for legacy and current Fuji photo lenses. You put all that in a dedicated video camera AND ALSO include their awesome film simulations (along with flog/flog2) to match decades of films made with film, you’d have a camera that not only fits what the market currently offers, but offers a creative touch that most of the other manufacturers ignore almost entirely for post-related creativity. Also… Anyone else think it’s interesting that the next X-summit is in Australia? The home of Blackmagic? The fujirumors guy has also stated that his sources are saying that a new Fuji body that’s going to surprise everyone is coming later this year.
Do you think it would be possible for them to add of OLP? I know the x-trans is a bit different, but I feel like the issue with the XH2-S is the over-sharp image. I know it’s a very easy fix in post, but I do feel like professionals might not like the sharpness.
The color science and film simulations are the main things that make me love Fujifilm. Something I would love to see is incorporating film emulation into F-log. It would be great to see Eterna, Astia, etc as a Cineon Log format. I have conversion LUTs that are supposed to convert F-log to film sims, but it would be amazing if that was baked into the log image, and then you can convert that to rec709 to end up with the film simulation. Or they could provide a film print LUT specific to their Cineon curve. I'd love to see lots of other cinema camera features but this would be a top wish list item for me.
I really like this debate you bring. I'm actually very pleased to have switched from Canon to Fuji. I bought the X-H2S and it's an incredible camera. And in this price range (which I could afford), for me it was the best choice: the hybrid that I found most interesting. Including the Sony FX30, Canon R6 II, Panasonic among others. Thinking about a camera specifically for cinema from Fuji, that maintains its color personality, etc., is really something that delights me. Even though it will take a while for me to have the money to buy it. LOL With cinema lenses, the X-H2S delivers incredible quality for those who make independent films (in this case, with a very low budget).
We're actually switching away from Fuji xh2s to the Lumix s5iix. Better price and the image quality blows the Fuji out of the water unfortunately. Better lenses too (Leica designed L Mounts.) If you're looking for something with a great look straight out of camera than Fuji is a good move. Just watch out for those highlights.
@@jhaskell233I saw some comparisons between them: Fuji x Lumix. But Fuji interested me even more. I think they are 2 excellent cameras. When in doubt, today I'll stick with the Fuji X-H2S. I think that at this level of quality, the choice ends up being a bit of our personal preference. And as for lenses: nothing that a good adapter can't solve. And, honestly, I will never have the resources to have so many lenses on offer. I need a good kit. And I think I can do that with Fuji too.
I’ve had this thought as well. If they made an XH2s with internal ND, proper batteries, and xlr ins, I would buy three in a heartbeat.. I was at a camera show a few months back and asked a Fuji rep about it. He said he obviously couldn’t say anything, but then said look who Fujifilm would be burning if they released a small cine cam. Much of Fuji’s market is in pro level lenses made for cinema & broadcast, on Canon broadcast cameras, Sony cinema cameras, etc… The implication was that a Fuji FX6 equivalent would be problematic for their larger business relationships for their core lens lines. :’(
Basically I would love everything that an FX3 could do, but with F-log2 cause Fuji colours are beautiful, that way it could be more like a $5-6k price as well
Man, if they start off with a more basic cinema camera, like an FX3 style body, they can get that out there for under $3,750 imo. Then a mid range body for $5.5-6k, and a flagship with a stacked GFX sensor for under $10k ($8,999?) Oooo what a dream
Built it ND filter since they have already done it with x100VI, ND+IBIS. Shutter angle, desqueeze and false colors will be amazing tools same as panasonic
As a freelance camera assistant I’ve seen a few big DPs use a fuji as a viewfinder and when engaging in convo with them, they share the same opinion… we want a fuji cinema camera.
On most commercial shoots I've had to shoot the ad with a cine camera and then switch to a photo camera for stills. Hybrids just aren't sturdy enough for a full shoot. If Fuji made a dedicated cine camera with all the needed codecs and connections, but also with a photo mode, they would really fill a gap.
FUJIFILM raw external recorder with 14 bit or higher readout. Something similar to black magics offering but better suited for fujis current line of cameras and compatible with their new cinema cameras over the next few years. Better exposure settings, EL ZONE, sound pre amps. Yes I know ninja has some of these features ,but still no 14 bit, and Fuji could maintain their color science and film sims.
I honestly don’t think that Fuji would put out a cinema or production camera. The reason being is because we simply need to take a look at Panasonic. They’ve been killing it in the hybrid game yet at the very same time they have made excellent cinema and production cameras, and they have not sold well at all. That space seems to be dominated by Cannon and Sony for the most part. I don’t think there is an incentive there for them to launch out into that space.
That’s panasonic. Different system, mount, lenses, etc. Fujifilm’s already deeply invested in the cinema market with theirtop tier cinema lenses; I think a camera will come. That space will continue to be dominated by canon, sony, red and arri, but a cinema camera by fuji is still something that fuji and their customers can really benefit from, it isn’t just about the competition. I do unit photography for films and DPs are always surprised to see me shooting with a fuji camera, most of them also wishing fuji would release a proper production camera. I think the film industry will be intrigued by what a fuji cine cam would have to offer, just by the popularity of their cinema lenses and film stocks alone. Blackmagic has lower value in the cine market as well but people still use and buy their cameras because there are different cameras for everyone.
Even as a Fuji user that probably never would be in the market for such a camera, I’d like to see Fuji commit to video on this level. It could only mean positive trickle down effect for even hybrid body users like me.
I think a lot of what you are saying is spot on, except that Fuji's focus is on making cinema cameras with the GFX size sensor (which covers vista) under the $10k price point. Let's just hope the next iteration of that sensor is super fast, maybe even global shutter!
I think if they make three types of cameras one the box type that would be in the 6.5k to 7.5k range with all the ports like you said and two a full compact cinema camera with a fan in the 2.5 k to 4.5 k price range and they all have to shoot in pro res and raw in camera, cause black magic, why not!?! The third would be a bigger/ or thicker compact body in 3.5k to 5.7k with fewer ports than the box style but more than the 2nd on the box style and the bigger compact one would both an ND filter on but not the smaller one that in the 2.5 K range the first and the third one would have super 35 sensors and the could drop f-log 3 lol
It would be a dream if this happened. Something I could use on set that has capabilities within a more professional environment. It's difficult to create cinema level rigs when all the cables hit you in the face, having something that doesn't need to be a Frankenstein rig would be incredible. Another facet that isn't thought of enough would be bringing their prime lenses into a cinema housing. Fujinon already has the zooms, and having primes would change the game. Much like Canon or Sony, having an inclusive environment for those that love Fuji, it would be under one house. Another idea would be to have a cinema color pipeline that isn't just based on Eterna, but on a few of their film stocks.
for me, i really just want a fuji xh2s inside of a canon c100 mk ii body with an added SDI out, more resolution options for video (5.7k, 5.3k etc.) and maybe v mount option (though rails + V-mount plate can always be added), i would need nothing else
Fujifilm likes to stay away from saturated markets. That's why they don't make full frame cameras, but do make a medium format option. They didn't think they could make a dent in a market already saturated by every other manufacturer, so they made something no one else was. The question isn't whether than could make a great cine camera, of course they could, but whether they can break into the cine market, which is probably an even more rigid market to break in to in terms of brand trust and workflow. Sony is most of the market these days, and their A9 III shows they're probably going to have the best tech for the foreseeable future as well. I think if they do ever make a cine camera, they might be more tempted to base it off the GFX sensor, not the xh2s, simply because that's a less crowded segment. They probably just won't make a cine camera, though I'd love to be proven wrong.
Fuji box cam, medium format sensor with s35 option, prores 4444 option, xlr input, sdi output, timecode, internal nd, global shutter haha. Am I missing something? Maybe a beautiful lut based on the Fuji Pro 400h. I would definitely wanna see that.
Fujifilm’s image has a similar vibe to ARRI Alexa. They could make the image a little less ‘ sharp ‘ and soften the edges of subjects and also work on the motion interpolation give it more filmic judder that you get from a mechanical shutter. I feel like cinema cameras need a built in zero latency transmission system. But that would be expensive.
I’ve been waiting for you to make this video, I do believe fujifilm can make a box camera like the BSH1 but it’s just a matter of them taking that risk. They have a prototype and it’s called the XHS2 all they have to do is make that happen!
Imagine they answer to your what if with a Medium Format Cinema Camera ecosystem complete with Medium Format Cine Lenses. That would be awesome! Medium Format, 8k 60fps, no crop, very good in low light. Ahhh, one can dream.
The reason Fujifilm may never produce a dedicated cinema camera could be due to the potential market disruption it might cause. Fujifilm's expertise in color science and their commitment to exceptional image quality would likely result in a cinema camera that could outshine many current competitors. Such a move might be seen as too disruptive in a market where established brands have long held dominance, possibly leading to significant industry pushback. In a way, Fujifilm's success in still photography might paradoxically be a reason they hold back in the cinema camera market, to maintain balance and avoid an upheaval in industry dynamics.
The xh2s in a cine body and can directly write into an SSD and accept v mount mini directly, an internal ND filter system or at least an official adapter, false color ,custom monitoring lut plus the Fuji film sim as luts for us to further play with, internal fan, XLR on body or at least mini XLR but can be solved with rigging a zoom F3 and using a line in aux to feed audio, expanded timecode, camera can be used over the shoulder, lots of custom buttons and dials, a control remote handle (like the fs7 mark II maybe) more granual shutter control for flicker like in the xt5, maybe internal pro res raw so we wouldn't need the Atmos ninja v, desqueeze for anamorphic lenses in body for monitoring without an external monitor, a proper pricing not much over the original release MSRP of xh2s ( doubt it will be as these features will at least set it to be over the 1400$ plus mark over the price of the xh2s which was around 2400$ so about 4000$ I guess I sure hope not though) it will be an instant buy for me and I bet it will make lots of productions more than happy, it will give blackmagic and fx3 a run for their money for sure and offer a unique sensor into the selection. A fully rigged xh2s is plenty pro, but it could be way better if was done as primary video centric only camera, the sensor and open gate capability does wonders for anamorphic shooters and agencies that also offer social media formats or commercial work.
Have an X-t4 and want a X-H2s for my a Cam and B cam tbh, though I do feel a bit hard to fully commit to Fuji. Like for the more coporate work I do I feel I may need a sony just due to Client demand etc. This is also why I havent invested into their lenses etc. I think for me the nody could either be FX3 C70 or FX6 style i'd prefer the later for better batteries though this could be problematic for fuji so maybe FX3 would help keep costs down. SDI I also think isn't strictly needed for first outing though If they went fx6 route they could update the MK lenses. While also Delving into their long history of making broadcats and cinema lenses. They could do this without the fx6 stle body but ergonomics would help for sure. I'd avoid box camera. Stick to S35 locking X mount just a beefed up X - H2S bury the photo features but keep them. HDMI 2.1 I would have bRAW internal if possible.
All of the above. Lil Fuji cineBox. Compact box camera like Zcam. Dual iso would be great but I would still buy it with just internal ND feature. More audio ports would be killer. Custom uploadable LUTs would be a nice touch :)
I use a accsoon nano for wireless video monitoring and false color out of my xt-3. The nano is $130 and sends a signal to up to 4 tablets or phones. I use an ipad mini for my monitor. I have all the cinema tools I need with that
It’s crazy that they announced 2 updates the impact the xh2s, so we have 3 total in 6-7 months. Hopefully more x summits reveal a dedicated cinematic camera or a module and additional ui updates for video
If you read this fuji. Make it happens. As Fuji lover, I ended up buying a sony B cam as I wanted to have a B cam with pro I/O (xlr, sdi, Dtap and so on) that I could use on some shooting. I would love to stick with Fuji.
This is the camera zcam should make but they cant compete with x mount. So many options available similarly to sony however its fuji. If fuji doesnt do it lets figure out how to use x mount lenses on zcam !!
There are three things I would like to see from Fujifilm, and a cinema camera is actually one of them, but with some special points: 1)- I would like to see A Cinema Camera from Fujifilm, but something special. And not another camera just to sell Fuji-Color and nothing special. Create something new, like a camera with a new Crop Factor Sensor, like an Aps-H, or something with Sensor Crop x1.4. But with Drop ND filters inside and, something that can be better than the Canon C70. 2)- Make a Native Drop ND Filter Adaptor for the X-Mount. That can make a big difference helping people to choose to buy a Fuji camera, or any brand : "having the useful accesories available for better user experience and better overwhole usability". 3)- Just be the best, don't imitate other brands that used to crop something in the cheap camera, to protect other things on other cameras more expensive and all those kind staff. Just be the best , the king of kings, giving people what they pay for with heat and happiness, If you can and you have the possibility" Like, "the 4k 60p crop in the Fuji XS20". It does not make sense to crop the 4k 60p and 240p FullHD. Even when there is, for just $100 more, the Canon eos r7, a camera as good as the XS20 or better than the SX20 for having uncrop 4k 60p (in terms of specs and overwhole usability). Just give to people ( a firmware update) an option where the can choose a crop good quality 4k 60p or a less quality uncrop 4k 60p and 240p FullHD, at lest. And the same thing goes for the Fujifilm XH2S. So, if the Fuji X100VI would have the same 13+ Stop DNR F-Log2 and the same 4k 60p Crop, why you didn't give us some 14+ DNR and (Uncrop) Slowmotion 10-bit Video in this model (hybrid)?? "If you wanna do it, jut do it better than the competition". Look at Panasonic, with the Lumix G9 II and Lumix GH6. They give you, with the best intention, the best they have for your money, compare to all the competition". Even a lossless 4k 120p 10-bit UNCROP, but you have it if you need it. Or like Canon, with Eos R8, they give you in fullfram body, "uncrop everrything they have, without hesitation". Even the Canon eos R6 II, shares nearly specs of the R8. But beyond that, we could clearly see better opportunities and the feeling of making a good purssach . So, I think, the point two " Native Drop ND Filter Adaptor" and the third one "Give us the best than the competition, like more options", can attract more people on the system by believing that with Fujifilm the future always gonna be better, but not igual or worst than the other brands. That important for us.
I don't understand why they haven't. Especially with the reveal of the x100VI having an internal ND, it shows that they have all the parts to make a killer cine cam
I have to say if Fujifilm did that it would be an instant YES from me. I really enjoy working with my X-T3 and X-T4 and in the next year or 2 will be looking at upgrading to a more "cinema" featured camera. The new BMCC Full Frame got my attention but its lack of ProRes RAW and form factor is an issue for me (I'll wait for a Pro version) and am eagerly awaiting Sony's new cinema cameras and the fx3 Mk II, which might just steal me away from Fuji. Of course I'll still keep my X-T4 for photography but my "buy in" into Fuji will be all but over.
What if for the mount they did the Burano/ Venice thing where they have an X moubt underneath a PL mount it would really be versatile and also sell that they mean business.
I would LOVE a Fujifilm Cinema Camera. Put the XH2-S sensor in an FX6/Mavo EDGE/C300III style of body (or BS1H even, but give me internal NDs, internal active cooling, HDMI AND SDI ports, XLRs) and I would jump on the order button :p EDIT : obviously, a camera based on a GFX100II would be cool too
As Fujifilm fan and former blackmagic videographer, now an X-T5 user, cause I need a hybrid camera for my work. I'd love see this to happen. But I don't really think it will. Fujifilm is way too much invested in pleasing photographer. Fujifilm useres must be 90% photographers. So I can't really see them investing so much resources on a proper video camera. Unfortunately
I don't think that Fujifilm making a cinema camera would make any impact unless they can produce a somewhat affordable medium format/vista vision one. What can Fujifilm with a APS-C sized sensor really do in an already crowded cinema camera market that isn't there already? The fact that they have their own lens mount isn't helping either as long as they don't create cinema style lenses for the x-mount which makes the entire growing into it not possible unless they are willing to rehouse their current PL/E-mount cinema lenses to a native xmount. And the cold hard fact is that currently EVERY mirrorless mount has this amount of mount options. E-mount even has autofocus for vintage lenses with a third party mount. And honestly, the image you are getting out of a Fujifilm isn't that different than other cameras. Not as big as fans like to say it is, especially if your colorist has done their magic on it.
I just don't think that there is a market for it. I think a lot of Fuji film users and I'm part of the FujiFilm community. Yep and I shoot professionally in Australia and I teach Photography and I don't do much videography work but I do do bits and pieces every now and then what I think well what do I think is that they just isn't the market for this? That's the problem. How many would they actually sell? If you're gonna invest that amount of money into developing the technology you've got it then recoup the money back in sales and I'm just not sure they would recoup the money back in sales I think it's a great idea and I love your passion and I enjoy your channel and yes I've hit that subscribe button ages ago. And then we would run into the problem of auto focus and we know that Fuji cameras can be a little bit dodgy on the auto focus in some situations. I think it's actually overstated a fair bit. I've use Fiji cameras now for quite awhile in weddings portraits and a whole bunch of other stuff and I've had, there's a few tricks that need to know. I just don't think there is market but I could be wrong. I'm happy to be.
Haha not a market for one?, if you're coming from a photo mindset, this video wont make sense to you. Also Tell that to sony, canon, and Panasonic. Haha Also also, af is not required for a cinema camera.
I think the problem is that they'd need an entire line. They could make a Cinema camera for $6k, but would you buy it and their lenses if they didn't have a $10k and $20k camera to eventually move up to? But damn I wish they did.
Curious, why would you want SDI in on a camera? To what end? Obviously 6K open gate as the XH-2S is now. It needs to have dual 12g SDI outputs, TC i/o (one each) and genlock input. Guess it has to have HDMI even though HDMI sucks and it probably should be able to be powered via a USB C connection as well. It needs dual XLR inputs in the body, not on some stupid handle like Sony did with the FX6. It needs a 3.5mm audio input jack for those who might want to use something like the new Zacuto Micro Boompole for documentary or event work. Box camera is fine, it's boring and generic but seems to what almost everyone wants. Going back to Sony, a non-terrible screen on this new Fuji would be nice, the Sony screens range form barely adequate (FX9) to horrible (FX6, 3, 30) Bonus points if you can make it 1500 nits and a decent size. Internal NDs with no color shift would be a huge plus and at least 8 stops. XF Mount is great, it would be an opportunity for Fuji to ramp up their MKX zoom sales with a couple more offerings and add an APSC C line of cine primes. I don't really care about AF on this camera, but improving the current level found on the XH-2S to be put on this camera and to be more Sony-like would help sales. As we all know, the AF on the XF lenses ranges from ultra slow and clunky to not bad so a new lineup of video oriented AF zooms with servo control would sell, I'd personally be thrilled with the two current MKX zooms. As long as it's XF mount, I think you'd be covered as XF is so adaptable and many of us have Cine primes in XF mount, EF mount or E mount. I think this camera would seriously sell. The BMD FF 6K is a great camera but bulky, very plasticky and weird form factor. The Komodo is meh, I guess good if you like REDs? The C70 is a good camera but bad, crappy build quality, no SDI out and a screen that is begging to be snapped off. The C70 form factor is also dumb. The FX6 sells like hotcakes but the more I've used it, the more I think it's the cheapest and worst built modern cinema camera on the market with GREAT images, small size and weight but horrific build quality and LOTs of owners are complaining about things breaking on them constantly. Broken mic mount, sagging LCD mount, broken top handle, malfunctioning menu dial, malfunctioning LCD port, camera grip that is impossible to lock down tight, always has a looseness to it that screams junky build quality. If Fuji uses metal instead of so much plastic, like Canon generally does (C200/300 MKIII are built like little tanks!), and doesn't obsess over weight and making this camera as small as humanly possible, it's easier to end up with better build quality. Cine cameras don't need to be tiny. Small is nice but build and being able to configure and rig out is much more important. The FX6, once you rig it out professionally, is too small. Our Fuji mirrorless cameras have pretty good overall build quality so this camera will need to be built even better. This needs to be a PRO level with PRO build. The FX6/C70 are not built to PRO level build, they prosumer builds and when you press them and use them hard, they break. Fuji can do better and differentiate themselves from these two competitors simply by build quality. I've been asking Fuji for a cine camera since the XH-1 came out so who knows if this is all just wishful thinking? Fuji has never, to my knowledge, given any indication of building a cine camera, even though we have been begging them to do so for many years. Fingers crossed.
Wouldn’t a great native evf also be a dream come true for a cinema camera in this range. Fuji could make a digital Aaton minima. If they could also maintain the boot up time of their mirrorless camera’s it could truly be something special and would perfectly align with their philosophy for classical inspired photo camera’s.
Was really hyped about the idea, but the LENS mount is backbone of eveyrthing. How you will convince people to invest in X-Mount ciné caméra or X-Mount Accessories ? And grow with it ? While Sony, Canon has tons of lens, L-mount alliance is growing. So unless they have E-Mount / L-Mount user interchageable mount, or as you said invest TONS of MONEY for Video AF Lenses that parts from what is on the market (super clean/super sharp/super contrasty) Appart from those massive investment I can't see Fujifilm doing anything than crippling the market by only convincing some Indie DP that use to have Blackmagic / Lower tier Red cameras.
Put their 40MP APS-C sensor in a GFX100 body, open gate, XF mount with built in battery grip, full size HDMI port plus the other usual ports, IBIS, unlimited recording time, multiple 8K frame rates, 3 CF Express type B card slots or 2 with an interchangeable Solid State hard drive, built in variable ND filter - GFX100 body will aid the dissipation of heat generated from shooting 8K video.
Hear me out, what if fujifilm made a home movie camera? Like a proper home movie camera from the past. It would sell massively and revive the art of home movies, not the short iphone clips we are doing these days. A modern camcorder with fuji build quality, it would be amazing! You in?
There waiting for technology to catch up . They want to make a cinematic camera in medium format GFX . Because it will have a unique and far superior image to any full frame camera on the market . There probably looking to release it once the RED Paton’s run out on raw formats there probably 3 -5 years away
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middleformat and they would have a gamechanger immediatly
C100 or FX6-ish form factor, boxy/camcorder style with X-H2S sensor and proprietary half-demosaiced RAW codecs like B-RAW would be sweet. Along with all the I/O ports required for the usual stuff. Bonus points if they can make an electronic VND like the one in the FX6. Hopefully open gate 60p too.
Fuji is behind the times. The GFX100 II had so much potential but they dropped the ball in the video department. Camera companies need to push boundaries instead of haphazardly following what every other camera company is doing. Fuji needs to focus on making partnerships with Lens manufactures and accessory companies like sigma and Dji. The readout speed for the GFX 100 II is terrible.
Yeah. Fuji is still leap years behind the pack in terms of image quality unfortunately. Not sure I could justify the price point for a Fuji cine-camera compared to what other companies are offering right now.
yes. I've shot over 500 weddings with x-t4s and xh2Ss. The Lumix S5iiX is lightyears ahead of Fuji. Not mentioning Canon and Sony which in my opinion have the edge on Lumix (but are more expensive.) The highlights on a fuji are the worst in the industry. I still have a soft spot for fujis but its not even a comparison. Its why only 1% of pros use them.@@CineDailies
Its not a what if. Ive been studying Fujifilm they are a very smart company they remind me of Toyota. Just look at the Fuji Road map they always move in the direction of what other camera companies disregard or overprice. So that leaves APSC camers, Medium Format and now ARRI.
They HAVE a cinema camera. The xh2s. They just need to put it in a box, offer up some cinema software tools like false color and screw some holes in the box for attachments. The camera is already better than a number of Sony and canon dedicated cinema cameras.
Hear me out. Cinema box style like the Kinefinity. Instead of push a setting button and turning the dial like on the Mavo’s, ITS A MANUAL DIAL like the ISO and shutter buttons on classic Fujifilm camera WITH a LOCK button. Nahhh lemme stop.
Fujifilm box cam. I need it. I want it.
Yes please
That would be awesome 😎
Great video I hope that they do do this!
I would love to have the Fuji GFX 100 mark II. If it was not $7500 and also like you were talking about the other day if they made more video lenes for the setup!
hells yeah. imagine a hybrid modular Hasselblad with Fuji's film recipes and specs thats a fraction of the price.
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A Fujifilm with a VistaVision sensor. You just described my dream camera
It would be INSANE
I don’t think they’d go for it, especially with an X-Mount. VistaVision is just full frame, which they haven’t really shown any interest in apart from crop modes on the GFX
It seems like they don’t need to do much to make the jump. Just use the XH2s as a foundation, and build in the creature comforts of a dedicated video camera. Include things like video tools, IBIS, internal ND’s, and detachable EVF from the GFX cameras. Also stick with the cfxpress cards, and the x-mount to allow for legacy and current Fuji photo lenses.
You put all that in a dedicated video camera AND ALSO include their awesome film simulations (along with flog/flog2) to match decades of films made with film, you’d have a camera that not only fits what the market currently offers, but offers a creative touch that most of the other manufacturers ignore almost entirely for post-related creativity.
Also… Anyone else think it’s interesting that the next X-summit is in Australia? The home of Blackmagic? The fujirumors guy has also stated that his sources are saying that a new Fuji body that’s going to surprise everyone is coming later this year.
Do you think it would be possible for them to add of OLP? I know the x-trans is a bit different, but I feel like the issue with the XH2-S is the over-sharp image. I know it’s a very easy fix in post, but I do feel like professionals might not like the sharpness.
The color science and film simulations are the main things that make me love Fujifilm. Something I would love to see is incorporating film emulation into F-log. It would be great to see Eterna, Astia, etc as a Cineon Log format. I have conversion LUTs that are supposed to convert F-log to film sims, but it would be amazing if that was baked into the log image, and then you can convert that to rec709 to end up with the film simulation. Or they could provide a film print LUT specific to their Cineon curve. I'd love to see lots of other cinema camera features but this would be a top wish list item for me.
I really like this debate you bring. I'm actually very pleased to have switched from Canon to Fuji. I bought the X-H2S and it's an incredible camera. And in this price range (which I could afford), for me it was the best choice: the hybrid that I found most interesting. Including the Sony FX30, Canon R6 II, Panasonic among others.
Thinking about a camera specifically for cinema from Fuji, that maintains its color personality, etc., is really something that delights me. Even though it will take a while for me to have the money to buy it. LOL
With cinema lenses, the X-H2S delivers incredible quality for those who make independent films (in this case, with a very low budget).
We're actually switching away from Fuji xh2s to the Lumix s5iix.
Better price and the image quality blows the Fuji out of the water unfortunately. Better lenses too (Leica designed L Mounts.)
If you're looking for something with a great look straight out of camera than Fuji is a good move. Just watch out for those highlights.
@@jhaskell233I saw some comparisons between them: Fuji x Lumix. But Fuji interested me even more. I think they are 2 excellent cameras. When in doubt, today I'll stick with the Fuji X-H2S. I think that at this level of quality, the choice ends up being a bit of our personal preference. And as for lenses: nothing that a good adapter can't solve. And, honestly, I will never have the resources to have so many lenses on offer. I need a good kit. And I think I can do that with Fuji too.
I’ve had this thought as well. If they made an XH2s with internal ND, proper batteries, and xlr ins, I would buy three in a heartbeat.. I was at a camera show a few months back and asked a Fuji rep about it. He said he obviously couldn’t say anything, but then said look who Fujifilm would be burning if they released a small cine cam. Much of Fuji’s market is in pro level lenses made for cinema & broadcast, on Canon broadcast cameras, Sony cinema cameras, etc… The implication was that a Fuji FX6 equivalent would be problematic for their larger business relationships for their core lens lines. :’(
If only the X-H2s had the build in ND from the X100! Still wondering why they haven't put these 2 together inside a box form cinema camera
You and me brotha 🤷🏽♂️😭
Basically I would love everything that an FX3 could do, but with F-log2 cause Fuji colours are beautiful, that way it could be more like a $5-6k price as well
Man, if they start off with a more basic cinema camera, like an FX3 style body, they can get that out there for under $3,750 imo. Then a mid range body for $5.5-6k, and a flagship with a stacked GFX sensor for under $10k ($8,999?) Oooo what a dream
A medium format lower resolution sensor would be really dope if they could keep the price under control
Built it ND filter since they have already done it with x100VI, ND+IBIS. Shutter angle, desqueeze and false colors will be amazing tools same as panasonic
As a freelance camera assistant I’ve seen a few big DPs use a fuji as a viewfinder and when engaging in convo with them, they share the same opinion… we want a fuji cinema camera.
4x3 crop.. boi stahhhp. Love this originality 👌🏻
4x3 crop is original now?
Fuji needs to make good native lenses for video
On most commercial shoots I've had to shoot the ad with a cine camera and then switch to a photo camera for stills. Hybrids just aren't sturdy enough for a full shoot. If Fuji made a dedicated cine camera with all the needed codecs and connections, but also with a photo mode, they would really fill a gap.
think the same stuff. Thanks for the voice! and i love that fuji is listening:)
FUJIFILM raw external recorder with 14 bit or higher readout. Something similar to black magics offering but better suited for fujis current line of cameras and compatible with their new cinema cameras over the next few years. Better exposure settings, EL ZONE, sound pre amps. Yes I know ninja has some of these features ,but still no 14 bit, and Fuji could maintain their color science and film sims.
Just here to say that I like this framing/setup
I honestly don’t think that Fuji would put out a cinema or production camera. The reason being is because we simply need to take a look at Panasonic. They’ve been killing it in the hybrid game yet at the very same time they have made excellent cinema and production cameras, and they have not sold well at all. That space seems to be dominated by Cannon and Sony for the most part. I don’t think there is an incentive there for them to launch out into that space.
That’s panasonic. Different system, mount, lenses, etc. Fujifilm’s already deeply invested in the cinema market with theirtop tier cinema lenses; I think a camera will come. That space will continue to be dominated by canon, sony, red and arri, but a cinema camera by fuji is still something that fuji and their customers can really benefit from, it isn’t just about the competition. I do unit photography for films and DPs are always surprised to see me shooting with a fuji camera, most of them also wishing fuji would release a proper production camera. I think the film industry will be intrigued by what a fuji cine cam would have to offer, just by the popularity of their cinema lenses and film stocks alone. Blackmagic has lower value in the cine market as well but people still use and buy their cameras because there are different cameras for everyone.
I’m here for it!!
Even as a Fuji user that probably never would be in the market for such a camera, I’d like to see Fuji commit to video on this level. It could only mean positive trickle down effect for even hybrid body users like me.
A “perf” mode would also be great. 2 perf, 3 perf, 4 perf. Similar to a real 35mm camera.
Great video! We're getting the 'red means recording' box for XH2s rear LCD in the S/S 2024 update :D
Such a creative perspective. Loved hearing your thoughts dude
I think a lot of what you are saying is spot on, except that Fuji's focus is on making cinema cameras with the GFX size sensor (which covers vista) under the $10k price point. Let's just hope the next iteration of that sensor is super fast, maybe even global shutter!
I think if they make three types of cameras one the box type that would be in the 6.5k to 7.5k range with all the ports like you said and two a full compact cinema camera with a fan in the 2.5 k to 4.5 k price range and they all have to shoot in pro res and raw in camera, cause black magic, why not!?! The third would be a bigger/ or thicker compact body in 3.5k to 5.7k with fewer ports than the box style but more than the 2nd on the box style and the bigger compact one would both an ND filter on but not the smaller one that in the 2.5 K range the first and the third one would have super 35 sensors and the could drop f-log 3 lol
It would be a dream if this happened. Something I could use on set that has capabilities within a more professional environment. It's difficult to create cinema level rigs when all the cables hit you in the face, having something that doesn't need to be a Frankenstein rig would be incredible. Another facet that isn't thought of enough would be bringing their prime lenses into a cinema housing. Fujinon already has the zooms, and having primes would change the game. Much like Canon or Sony, having an inclusive environment for those that love Fuji, it would be under one house. Another idea would be to have a cinema color pipeline that isn't just based on Eterna, but on a few of their film stocks.
for me, i really just want a fuji xh2s inside of a canon c100 mk ii body with an added SDI out, more resolution options for video (5.7k, 5.3k etc.) and maybe v mount option (though rails + V-mount plate can always be added), i would need nothing else
Fujifilm likes to stay away from saturated markets. That's why they don't make full frame cameras, but do make a medium format option. They didn't think they could make a dent in a market already saturated by every other manufacturer, so they made something no one else was.
The question isn't whether than could make a great cine camera, of course they could, but whether they can break into the cine market, which is probably an even more rigid market to break in to in terms of brand trust and workflow. Sony is most of the market these days, and their A9 III shows they're probably going to have the best tech for the foreseeable future as well.
I think if they do ever make a cine camera, they might be more tempted to base it off the GFX sensor, not the xh2s, simply because that's a less crowded segment. They probably just won't make a cine camera, though I'd love to be proven wrong.
Hey man ❤ Viltrox Epic’s review was scheduled for this Tuesday right ? Cheers bro
Haha you're on it! Yeah it was but I had to push it back a week 😭 I post to the community tab often so you'll see news from me there
Fuji box cam, medium format sensor with s35 option, prores 4444 option, xlr input, sdi output, timecode, internal nd, global shutter haha. Am I missing something? Maybe a beautiful lut based on the Fuji Pro 400h. I would definitely wanna see that.
Fujifilm camcorder style plz
Fujifilm’s image has a similar vibe to ARRI Alexa. They could make the image a little less ‘ sharp ‘ and soften the edges of subjects and also work on the motion interpolation give it more filmic judder that you get from a mechanical shutter.
I feel like cinema cameras need a built in zero latency transmission system. But that would be expensive.
I’ve been waiting for you to make this video, I do believe fujifilm can make a box camera like the BSH1 but it’s just a matter of them taking that risk. They have a prototype and it’s called the XHS2 all they have to do is make that happen!
Imagine they answer to your what if with a Medium Format Cinema Camera ecosystem complete with Medium Format Cine Lenses. That would be awesome! Medium Format, 8k 60fps, no crop, very good in low light. Ahhh, one can dream.
The reason Fujifilm may never produce a dedicated cinema camera could be due to the potential market disruption it might cause. Fujifilm's expertise in color science and their commitment to exceptional image quality would likely result in a cinema camera that could outshine many current competitors. Such a move might be seen as too disruptive in a market where established brands have long held dominance, possibly leading to significant industry pushback. In a way, Fujifilm's success in still photography might paradoxically be a reason they hold back in the cinema camera market, to maintain balance and avoid an upheaval in industry dynamics.
Absolutely
The xh2s in a cine body and can directly write into an SSD and accept v mount mini directly, an internal ND filter system or at least an official adapter, false color ,custom monitoring lut plus the Fuji film sim as luts for us to further play with, internal fan, XLR on body or at least mini XLR but can be solved with rigging a zoom F3 and using a line in aux to feed audio, expanded timecode, camera can be used over the shoulder, lots of custom buttons and dials, a control remote handle (like the fs7 mark II maybe) more granual shutter control for flicker like in the xt5, maybe internal pro res raw so we wouldn't need the Atmos ninja v, desqueeze for anamorphic lenses in body for monitoring without an external monitor, a proper pricing not much over the original release MSRP of xh2s ( doubt it will be as these features will at least set it to be over the 1400$ plus mark over the price of the xh2s which was around 2400$ so about 4000$ I guess I sure hope not though) it will be an instant buy for me and I bet it will make lots of productions more than happy, it will give blackmagic and fx3 a run for their money for sure and offer a unique sensor into the selection.
A fully rigged xh2s is plenty pro, but it could be way better if was done as primary video centric only camera, the sensor and open gate capability does wonders for anamorphic shooters and agencies that also offer social media formats or commercial work.
I don't need sdi for my type of work, but I would love internal ND and xlr ports for audio
Man, I love the aspect ratio, it fits perfectly on my iPad.
Random question what’s your frame? (eyeglasses) cheers thanks!
4:22 dynamic range and colours are absolutely gorgeous, I wonder if that’s editing or a film sim?
Have an X-t4 and want a X-H2s for my a Cam and B cam tbh, though I do feel a bit hard to fully commit to Fuji. Like for the more coporate work I do I feel I may need a sony just due to Client demand etc. This is also why I havent invested into their lenses etc.
I think for me the nody could either be FX3 C70 or FX6 style i'd prefer the later for better batteries though this could be problematic for fuji so maybe FX3 would help keep costs down. SDI I also think isn't strictly needed for first outing though If they went fx6 route they could update the MK lenses. While also Delving into their long history of making broadcats and cinema lenses. They could do this without the fx6 stle body but ergonomics would help for sure. I'd avoid box camera. Stick to S35 locking X mount just a beefed up X - H2S bury the photo features but keep them. HDMI 2.1 I would have bRAW internal if possible.
All of the above. Lil Fuji cineBox. Compact box camera like Zcam. Dual iso would be great but I would still buy it with just internal ND feature. More audio ports would be killer. Custom uploadable LUTs would be a nice touch :)
Yo a vista vision Sensor with an optical low pass filter…That would be great.
I arguably like the video out of my Xs-20 more than the video out of my R5. This would be a dream for me 😍
I use a accsoon nano for wireless video monitoring and false color out of my xt-3. The nano is $130 and sends a signal to up to 4 tablets or phones. I use an ipad mini for my monitor. I have all the cinema tools I need with that
It’s crazy that they announced 2 updates the impact the xh2s, so we have 3 total in 6-7 months. Hopefully more x summits reveal a dedicated cinematic camera or a module and additional ui updates for video
Make it make sense Fuji smh
I would love a Fuji cinema form factor camera!
I been asking about Fujifilm Cinema Body for years and I hope it'll become reality.
If fujifilm made the space for a cinema camera, they’d take a sizable bite out of the market. The XH2s has amazing image quality.
If you read this fuji. Make it happens. As Fuji lover, I ended up buying a sony B cam as I wanted to have a B cam with pro I/O (xlr, sdi, Dtap and so on) that I could use on some shooting. I would love to stick with Fuji.
This is the camera zcam should make but they cant compete with x mount. So many options available similarly to sony however its fuji. If fuji doesnt do it lets figure out how to use x mount lenses on zcam !!
Have you seen the newest announcement for Firmware for the xh2s? Seems to be a great addition for videographers
Id buy one in a heartbeat... GFX 100 II in a box form factor would be nuts.
There are three things I would like to see from Fujifilm, and a cinema camera is actually one of them, but with some special points:
1)- I would like to see A Cinema Camera from Fujifilm, but something special. And not another camera just to sell Fuji-Color and nothing special. Create something new, like a camera with a new Crop Factor Sensor, like an Aps-H, or something with Sensor Crop x1.4. But with Drop ND filters inside and, something that can be better than the Canon C70.
2)- Make a Native Drop ND Filter Adaptor for the X-Mount. That can make a big difference helping people to choose to buy a Fuji camera, or any brand : "having the useful accesories available for better user experience and better overwhole usability".
3)- Just be the best, don't imitate other brands that used to crop something in the cheap camera, to protect other things on other cameras more expensive and all those kind staff. Just be the best , the king of kings, giving people what they pay for with heat and happiness, If you can and you have the possibility" Like, "the 4k 60p crop in the Fuji XS20". It does not make sense to crop the 4k 60p and 240p FullHD. Even when there is, for just $100 more, the Canon eos r7, a camera as good as the XS20 or better than the SX20 for having uncrop 4k 60p (in terms of specs and overwhole usability). Just give to people ( a firmware update) an option where the can choose a crop good quality 4k 60p or a less quality uncrop 4k 60p and 240p FullHD, at lest. And the same thing goes for the Fujifilm XH2S. So, if the Fuji X100VI would have the same 13+ Stop DNR F-Log2 and the same 4k 60p Crop, why you didn't give us some 14+ DNR and (Uncrop) Slowmotion 10-bit Video in this model (hybrid)?? "If you wanna do it, jut do it better than the competition".
Look at Panasonic, with the Lumix G9 II and Lumix GH6. They give you, with the best intention, the best they have for your money, compare to all the competition". Even a lossless 4k 120p 10-bit UNCROP, but you have it if you need it.
Or like Canon, with Eos R8, they give you in fullfram body, "uncrop everrything they have, without hesitation". Even the Canon eos R6 II, shares nearly specs of the R8. But beyond that, we could clearly see better opportunities and the feeling of making a good purssach .
So, I think, the point two " Native Drop ND Filter Adaptor" and the third one "Give us the best than the competition, like more options", can attract more people on the system by believing that with Fujifilm the future always gonna be better, but not igual or worst than the other brands. That important for us.
I would hope they'd include a native desqueeze for anamorphic lenses in some sort of cinecamera if they ever went that direction
There will be a red box and tap to track in a spring firmware update for the xh2s.
I don't understand why they haven't. Especially with the reveal of the x100VI having an internal ND, it shows that they have all the parts to make a killer cine cam
facts on facts on facts
I have to say if Fujifilm did that it would be an instant YES from me.
I really enjoy working with my X-T3 and X-T4 and in the next year or 2 will be looking at upgrading to a more "cinema" featured camera. The new BMCC Full Frame got my attention but its lack of ProRes RAW and form factor is an issue for me (I'll wait for a Pro version) and am eagerly awaiting Sony's new cinema cameras and the fx3 Mk II, which might just steal me away from Fuji.
Of course I'll still keep my X-T4 for photography but my "buy in" into Fuji will be all but over.
What if for the mount they did the Burano/ Venice thing where they have an X moubt underneath a PL mount it would really be versatile and also sell that they mean business.
I reckon they could be legitimate competitors with Arri.
I would LOVE a Fujifilm Cinema Camera. Put the XH2-S sensor in an FX6/Mavo EDGE/C300III style of body (or BS1H even, but give me internal NDs, internal active cooling, HDMI AND SDI ports, XLRs) and I would jump on the order button :p
EDIT : obviously, a camera based on a GFX100II would be cool too
As Fujifilm fan and former blackmagic videographer, now an X-T5 user, cause I need a hybrid camera for my work. I'd love see this to happen. But I don't really think it will. Fujifilm is way too much invested in pleasing photographer. Fujifilm useres must be 90% photographers. So I can't really see them investing so much resources on a proper video camera. Unfortunately
I don't think that Fujifilm making a cinema camera would make any impact unless they can produce a somewhat affordable medium format/vista vision one.
What can Fujifilm with a APS-C sized sensor really do in an already crowded cinema camera market that isn't there already?
The fact that they have their own lens mount isn't helping either as long as they don't create cinema style lenses for the x-mount which makes the entire growing into it not possible unless they are willing to rehouse their current PL/E-mount cinema lenses to a native xmount.
And the cold hard fact is that currently EVERY mirrorless mount has this amount of mount options. E-mount even has autofocus for vintage lenses with a third party mount.
And honestly, the image you are getting out of a Fujifilm isn't that different than other cameras. Not as big as fans like to say it is, especially if your colorist has done their magic on it.
But you got your red box on the LCD.... I'm curious to see how well the touch tracking works in video once we get the firmware.
As of right now that slide only mention fmthe photo mode not video 😭
Z-cam E2-F6 Pro is sub $5000 as well. Great value, powerful camera.
That's right! Forgot about that
I just don't think that there is a market for it. I think a lot of Fuji film users and I'm part of the FujiFilm community. Yep and I shoot professionally in Australia and I teach Photography and I don't do much videography work but I do do bits and pieces every now and then what I think well what do I think is that they just isn't the market for this? That's the problem. How many would they actually sell? If you're gonna invest that amount of money into developing the technology you've got it then recoup the money back in sales and I'm just not sure they would recoup the money back in sales I think it's a great idea and I love your passion and I enjoy your channel and yes I've hit that subscribe button ages ago. And then we would run into the problem of auto focus and we know that Fuji cameras can be a little bit dodgy on the auto focus in some situations. I think it's actually overstated a fair bit. I've use Fiji cameras now for quite awhile in weddings portraits and a whole bunch of other stuff and I've had, there's a few tricks that need to know. I just don't think there is market but I could be wrong. I'm happy to be.
Haha not a market for one?, if you're coming from a photo mindset, this video wont make sense to you. Also Tell that to sony, canon, and Panasonic. Haha
Also also, af is not required for a cinema camera.
Facts!
i dont just want it. i need it.
I think the problem is that they'd need an entire line. They could make a Cinema camera for $6k, but would you buy it and their lenses if they didn't have a $10k and $20k camera to eventually move up to? But damn I wish they did.
Interesting question title. 🤔 Filmmaker's Dream gonna be so wild! 🤣
I know right ha it's the people taking
@@CineDailies I wish I had that kind of rumor. 😅🥲🤣🤣
Curious, why would you want SDI in on a camera? To what end?
Obviously 6K open gate as the XH-2S is now. It needs to have dual 12g SDI outputs, TC i/o (one each) and genlock input. Guess it has to have HDMI even though HDMI sucks and it probably should be able to be powered via a USB C connection as well. It needs dual XLR inputs in the body, not on some stupid handle like Sony did with the FX6. It needs a 3.5mm audio input jack for those who might want to use something like the new Zacuto Micro Boompole for documentary or event work. Box camera is fine, it's boring and generic but seems to what almost everyone wants. Going back to Sony, a non-terrible screen on this new Fuji would be nice, the Sony screens range form barely adequate (FX9) to horrible (FX6, 3, 30) Bonus points if you can make it 1500 nits and a decent size. Internal NDs with no color shift would be a huge plus and at least 8 stops.
XF Mount is great, it would be an opportunity for Fuji to ramp up their MKX zoom sales with a couple more offerings and add an APSC C line of cine primes. I don't really care about AF on this camera, but improving the current level found on the XH-2S to be put on this camera and to be more Sony-like would help sales. As we all know, the AF on the XF lenses ranges from ultra slow and clunky to not bad so a new lineup of video oriented AF zooms with servo control would sell, I'd personally be thrilled with the two current MKX zooms. As long as it's XF mount, I think you'd be covered as XF is so adaptable and many of us have Cine primes in XF mount, EF mount or E mount.
I think this camera would seriously sell. The BMD FF 6K is a great camera but bulky, very plasticky and weird form factor. The Komodo is meh, I guess good if you like REDs? The C70 is a good camera but bad, crappy build quality, no SDI out and a screen that is begging to be snapped off. The C70 form factor is also dumb. The FX6 sells like hotcakes but the more I've used it, the more I think it's the cheapest and worst built modern cinema camera on the market with GREAT images, small size and weight but horrific build quality and LOTs of owners are complaining about things breaking on them constantly. Broken mic mount, sagging LCD mount, broken top handle, malfunctioning menu dial, malfunctioning LCD port, camera grip that is impossible to lock down tight, always has a looseness to it that screams junky build quality.
If Fuji uses metal instead of so much plastic, like Canon generally does (C200/300 MKIII are built like little tanks!), and doesn't obsess over weight and making this camera as small as humanly possible, it's easier to end up with better build quality. Cine cameras don't need to be tiny. Small is nice but build and being able to configure and rig out is much more important. The FX6, once you rig it out professionally, is too small. Our Fuji mirrorless cameras have pretty good overall build quality so this camera will need to be built even better. This needs to be a PRO level with PRO build. The FX6/C70 are not built to PRO level build, they prosumer builds and when you press them and use them hard, they break. Fuji can do better and differentiate themselves from these two competitors simply by build quality.
I've been asking Fuji for a cine camera since the XH-1 came out so who knows if this is all just wishful thinking? Fuji has never, to my knowledge, given any indication of building a cine camera, even though we have been begging them to do so for many years. Fingers crossed.
Wouldn’t a great native evf also be a dream come true for a cinema camera in this range. Fuji could make a digital Aaton minima. If they could also maintain the boot up time of their mirrorless camera’s it could truly be something special and would perfectly align with their philosophy for classical inspired photo camera’s.
if DSLR video shooter could predict the gfx 100 ii you can too if you believe hard enough
What do you use SDI in for?
If they do it, don't make it a hybrid anything. Make is straight cinema/production use and max out on those tools that we need, period
I want a Nikon Z cinema camera.
Was really hyped about the idea, but the LENS mount is backbone of eveyrthing. How you will convince people to invest in X-Mount ciné caméra or X-Mount Accessories ? And grow with it ? While Sony, Canon has tons of lens, L-mount alliance is growing. So unless they have E-Mount / L-Mount user interchageable mount, or as you said invest TONS of MONEY for Video AF Lenses that parts from what is on the market (super clean/super sharp/super contrasty)
Appart from those massive investment I can't see Fujifilm doing anything than crippling the market by only convincing some Indie DP that use to have Blackmagic / Lower tier Red cameras.
I would buy 2 in a heart beat and I know a dozen other folks who would follow suit
It would be Dream come true for Millions of people , Zcam body with Fuji Colors and 17 Stops of Dynamic Range , it would beat Arri
Put their 40MP APS-C sensor in a GFX100 body, open gate, XF mount with built in battery grip, full size HDMI port plus the other usual ports, IBIS, unlimited recording time, multiple 8K frame rates, 3 CF Express type B card slots or 2 with an interchangeable Solid State hard drive, built in variable ND filter - GFX100 body will aid the dissipation of heat generated from shooting 8K video.
@alpslifee and I keep saying that Fuji makes amazing cine lenses, they just need body for it
I wonder how much it would cost them from R&D to release and support over 4 years. 5 million? 50 million? I’ll lend it to them 😅
Hear me out, what if fujifilm made a home movie camera? Like a proper home movie camera from the past. It would sell massively and revive the art of home movies, not the short iphone clips we are doing these days. A modern camcorder with fuji build quality, it would be amazing! You in?
i notice you dont mention zcam as a sub 10k cinema camera. You used to own one right? What happened?
There waiting for technology to catch up . They want to make a cinematic camera in medium format GFX . Because it will have a unique and far superior image to any full frame camera on the market . There probably looking to release it once the RED Paton’s run out on raw formats there probably 3 -5 years away
middleformat and they would have a gamechanger immediatly
comment below your dream fujfilm cinema camera and what you think of the updates coming to the xh2s?
C100 or FX6-ish form factor, boxy/camcorder style with X-H2S sensor and proprietary half-demosaiced RAW codecs like B-RAW would be sweet. Along with all the I/O ports required for the usual stuff. Bonus points if they can make an electronic VND like the one in the FX6. Hopefully open gate 60p too.
A direct competitor to the c70 seems like the most streamlined and least risky way for fujifilm to get into the market
It's called the Arri Alexa
Sure let me drop $45K
Fuji is behind the times. The GFX100 II had so much potential but they dropped the ball in the video department. Camera companies need to push boundaries instead of haphazardly following what every other camera company is doing. Fuji needs to focus on making partnerships with Lens manufactures and accessory companies like sigma and Dji. The readout speed for the GFX 100 II is terrible.
Yeah. Fuji is still leap years behind the pack in terms of image quality unfortunately. Not sure I could justify the price point for a Fuji cine-camera compared to what other companies are offering right now.
Wait what? You think fujifilm image quality is behind? No offense but have you been under a rock? Lol
yes. I've shot over 500 weddings with x-t4s and xh2Ss. The Lumix S5iiX is lightyears ahead of Fuji. Not mentioning Canon and Sony which in my opinion have the edge on Lumix (but are more expensive.)
The highlights on a fuji are the worst in the industry.
I still have a soft spot for fujis but its not even a comparison. Its why only 1% of pros use them.@@CineDailies
Its not a what if. Ive been studying Fujifilm they are a very smart company they remind me of Toyota. Just look at the Fuji Road map they always move in the direction of what other camera companies disregard or overprice. So that leaves APSC camers, Medium Format and now ARRI.
They HAVE a cinema camera. The xh2s. They just need to put it in a box, offer up some cinema software tools like false color and screw some holes in the box for attachments. The camera is already better than a number of Sony and canon dedicated cinema cameras.
Hear me out. Cinema box style like the Kinefinity. Instead of push a setting button and turning the dial like on the Mavo’s, ITS A MANUAL DIAL like the ISO and shutter buttons on classic Fujifilm camera WITH a LOCK button. Nahhh lemme stop.
I care about paying my bills over what just came out
So you feel a certain way but we shouldn’t discuss it? Seriously, Nobody GAF… that’s not what this video is called.
i don't like it.
They won't.
but...what if?
@@CineDailies Might as well asl if pigs will fly. Fujifilm has no interest in doing so. nThey would have done it by now if they wanted to.