Only if you do good maintenance. I have a 2015 with 76k miles on it. I bought it used with 63k on it. The motor just spun a rod bearing due to gunk building up and plugging all the sensors and oil pump. Completely flooding the motor with metal shavings. No low oil pressure warning. No codes. Now it has a jasper reman engine. 🤢 Moral of the story. These trucks are incredible with awesome power. BUT... buy it new so you know the maintenance history or if used make sure you get proof of regular oil changes. (Saying this from a guy who only buys used)
Personally got a 2013 f150 with the 3.5 ecoboost with a 181000 miles and it has been an absolute amazing truck no issues at all other than regular maintenance every 5k
Your turbo coolant haven’t leaked? My 2014 3.5 had one leak at 75k and another at 99k miles. Ford put quick connect fasteners that fail. Wonder if they fixed this in recent years
My '16 F150 with the 2.7 , best truck and engine I have ever had in 50 yrs of driving. Keep oil changed every 3500 miles with Penzoil Platinum, cheap insurance. Pulls our RV at GVCW 12,500 in hills and mountains like it is not loaded. 2wd, and a 3.31 axle. Never strains, engine is smooth and rotationally silent. Uses no oil, truck by itself on interstate kept at 65mph gets 25mpg +/-. I am happy with it. I wish Ford would redesign the 3.5 using 2.7 tech so if I ever need a bigger set up a 3.5 max tow would be there. I love it.
Good video. Your best comment was your last one. Yes Ford recommends 10,000 mile oil change. Don't do that!! Reset the oil indicator in your dash to 50% life (approx. 5,500 miles). I am original owner, 2013 F150, 3.5 eco, 240,000 miles, Mobile 1 oil. Pull a 24ft boat almost every weekend, and a 30ft travel trailer in the winter months, other than water pump, plugs, coil packs, and a throttle-body...everything is original!! So, I believe everything that is pointed out in most RUclips videos, is lack of proper maintenance. Would I buy another? Yes, and I am! The 3.5 ecoboost is one of the most technological advanced engines out there! If you take care of it, it will absolutely "haul-the-mail".
I have a 2019 F150 with the 3.5 Ecoboost. It's had Mobil 1 oil changes every 5,000 miles. It had cam phaser failure at 48,000 miles. Now at 85,000 miles the valve covers are leaking and it has bad cam phasers again. What a great truck...
I got a 2021 platinum 3.5 in January before the chip fiasco. I loooove it. 10000 miles already and no problems. Rides and drives great. I talked to 4 people with older 3.5’s. Lowest millege is 60000, highest is 178000. Neither one has had any problems.
@@MrDmitryd9 Here are a couple solutions to those problems. First one: Stop towing F-250+ loads with an F-150. If you're someone who's gonna be towing heavy loads often or in challenging conditions, upgrade to a more capable truck. Second one: Change the oil every 5k miles or so like most people here are saying. The primary reason that even happens at all is because of lack of frequent oil changes.
120k? Always kills me how people with new vehicles think that is high. No matter the make you should expect double that (exceptions for extreme abuse and poor maintenace).
@@flamingrock1179 No offense 40k a year isnt even in the top 3 of people I know (all drive v8s of various makes). I've alway had issue with the ecoboost durability but to hear it from an owner of a ecoboost is new.
I've owned several trucks over 250k and have had good luck with Ford and Chevy. Ford was the better truck overall. Ram I had lots of issues before 100k, the lifters started ticking, front end, water pump and electrical issues. I doubt I'll own another Ram.
This video came up on autoplay and I watched the whole thing due to your A+ presentation style. Good job explaining the technical details and positive disposition.
I have the 5.0 but I drove a 3.5 yesterday. It’s pretty impressive. Not sure if im ready to do it but it intrigues me. Good explanation of the motor. It explains why the tunes give it so much more horsepower
Stay away from the eco boost,I’m on my third motor,1st was at 70,000.2nd at 130,000,third as of now. Ford tough,what a piece of shit,I will never buy another ford product in my life.
I'm at 240k miles but I've heard horror stories too honestly I think it comes down to how the people that assembled them were feeling the day they built your truck same with the v8 though
The coking that you mentioned isn't due to rapid cooling of the turbos. When the engine has been working hard the turbos heat up and when you shut down the engine they get even hotter. The oil that lubricates the turbos stops moving and the excess heat from the engine cooks the oil causing the coking problem.
I have a 2018 F-150 with the 3.5 Eco engine. I grew up with fast cars in the '60s and this engine makes incredible power. My only issue was the valve train had to be built at 55,000 (under warranty), due to the "death rattle" as I have heard it called, at start up. I purchased the Ford ESP up to 150,000 for the possible technology problems so, I'm good until then. It pulls my 20 ft. bass boat like it's not ever there. I change the oil every 5000 miles as well, currently 75,000 miles and counting.
Bought my F150 3.5 used with 57,000. Changed oil every 5,000 miles with mostly synthetic oil. The truck has 174,000 miles now. Zero engine issues! Zero rust on the aircraft aluminum body and truck bed. This truck has pulled an 18 foot trailer full of oak firewood several times over 150 miles. The engine is fast, quick and powerful while the truck body is lighter than steel. 2015 model XLT which I can not bring myself to TRADE IN for newer version. Had 1 issue with electrical transmission computer but the truck runs like new now. Have been driving Ford trucks over 35 years and this ecoboost is without a doubt the best performing engine I have had.👍👍👍
i had a 2011,13,14 F150s with the 3.5 turbos and they were awesome!!!!!!!!!! drove from lexington KY to ERIE pa with 1 tank of gas doing 85mph all the way to erie pa...super awesome motors
@@nasty3145 Well, if he doesn’t (I won’t assume), I sure do. 2018 F-150 w/ EB. Regularly tow a 8000 lb, 33’ Jayco travel trailer. Truck just hit 34,000 miles. No issues. Great engine! Oh, and I run a 5 star E50 and 93 performance tune. And STILL no issues.
Great video, love your channel. I bought a new FX4 XLT at the end of 2019 and decided to go with the 3.5 eco boost. My younger brother has a 2013 platinum with a 3.5 and about 60,000 trouble free miles. Mine has about 32,000 miles on it and so far it’s the best truck I’ve owned. I heard about the 10,000 mile oil change when I first got mine, so I started researching it. Just about every thing I’ve read, or watched, says absolutely do not do that. I’ve seen tear down videos on the 3.5 showing what they look like when people do that, and I’ve seen videos by Ford master techs saying to stick with 3,500 to 5,000 max. That being said, people should do whatever makes them comfortable, as for me, I’ll stick with 3,500 mile oil changes.
Smart man. Don’t listen to anybody telling you that 10k+ oil changes are fine. If you’re like me and want your truck to last as long as possible, 5k is the max. I never go further than 4K. Oil is cheap, engines are expensive
I do 10k km oil changes on my hemi with pennzoil platinum 5w-20. If your saying you can’t go over 5600km on an oil change I find that ridiculous. Before you shun me you should know that my truck has 130,000km on it with 30,000 being towing which sometimes it reaches 125 degrees C when I have my foot in towing a 9000lb trailer up mountains. Id consider an eco post for towing but if it requires that 3500mile oil change no thanks.
@@kylewitzel3540 , not saying you should do anything, I’m just relaying what I’ve read and watched. Seen several videos of engine tear downs of the 3.5 that show more sludge in the engine than I like. If you are having good luck with 10,000 mile oil changes, by all means, keep doing what you’re doing. My personal choice is to change oil every 3500 miles.
@@kylewitzel3540 it looks like you’re talking about 10k km oil changes and were talking about 10k miles. If you’re doing oil changes at 10k km, that’s a little over 6k miles so we’re not too far off. There are tons of people doing 10k mile oil changes, which is over 16k km. Do whatever u want man, but if you talk to any honest mechanic, they’ll tell you that anything over 6k to 7k miles is pushing it. I don’t see why you would even chance it. It’s like $30 and 20 min to change your oil. I want my truck to last 200k miles so I’m gonna change it every 3k to 5k
Guys, don't forget to drill a 1/16" hole in the bottom/driver side of your intercooler. I have a 1st gen, and my valves have been clean for 70k miles since i drilled that hole. When i cranked her up after drilling the hole, about 6 oz of creamy oil+condensation blew out. Now its just a oil-damp stain on the back of my air dam. No more idle hickups or acceleration choking in wet weather.
Early versions of 3.5 didn't have port injection, only direct injection. Early versions without port injection had issues w carbon buildup on valves. Ford addressed by adding port injection on later versions of 3.5
I have a black 2012 F150 Platinum 4x4 with the 3.5L Ecoboost. 3inch lift and 35'' Iron Man Mud Tires. At 241,000 miles, I dropped cylinder 4 on Interstate 20 outside Atlanta headed back to North Alabama. Swapped the motor in my garage and now have 284,000 miles. Now having the Lead Frame Module issue on my 6R80 transmission. Gonna be swapping that out soon. I've had 2 major problems but other than that truck has been great. I love my truck and would not trade it for anything. I'll keep fixing it till I can't no more.
@@stephenhodge6441 Same excellent experience here, on my third Ecoboost. Wonderful engine.......... scads of torque and goes like skunk. Zero issues with this engine............. absolutely love everyone I've owned
91k miles on my '14 F150 ecoboost, bought new. Full synthetic oil change and tire rotation every 5k miles (Motorcraft oil filter). In the shop for a turbo coolant leak once, replaced the throttle body another time, replaced the heater/vent blower motor another. On the second set of tires and third battery. My '05 Xterra was never in the shop during the 106k miles I put on it.
Hey, as long as the engine makes it past the warranty! Ford doesn't care after that. Go to 10k miles and you are talking new motor and turbos. No one out in the world will recommend going over 5k miles with that engine! Unless they don't care about giving good advice.
10k with full synthetic under moderate driving condition is fine. Folks are living in the past i.e. conventional oils have a lot shorter life than synthetic. But hey, your truck, your choice. Just base it on evidence, not conjecture.
I was told that they give that guidance on oil changes so they can get you into their service dept more often to take your right arm and your firstborn child.🙊🙈🙉
@@geraldcadyii5772 We used to say that when oil change interval went from 2K to 5K, me included..... but I now wait until 4K to schedule an oil change. I've driven my previous 2 Ford/Lincoln cars now up to 80K/60K miles on odometer with no engine issues. Lincoln has Ecoboost, small Ford daily driver does not. And I DO NOT use synthetic oil.
Love your videos. Wife has a 2015 king ranch with 5.0, love it. Wasn’t a big fan of the 3.5 but after seeing them perform on the job and my brother has one towing his camper, I’m convinced. The towing ability of the 3.5 is crazy.
I have a 2020 king ranch I really enjoy driving. Ford advertises the max turbo boost as 15 psi which should therefore provide twice standard atmospheric pressure to the intake system. So presumably you can cram twice the air in which should be equivalent to a displacement of 7.0L or 427ci. That is why the light weight aluminum body combined with the V6 is so much fun to drive and still gets pretty good mileage on eco cruise control on the highway.
Too much focus is on mileage. I change mine twice a year whether I go 5k miles or 14k miles that year. The people who are on the highway all the time putting 20k miles a year might get away with 10k changes
@@jamesalexander958 think about it you have twin turbos spinning at 20,000 rpm you need to keep good clean oil to keep those turbos healthy. I go 5k max that’s it and I’m changing it
Interesting talking points on the direct injection and port injection. I think you missed a critical point of putting port injection in combination with DI. Direct injection has an issue with allowing build up of junk on the back of the valves much faster and aggressively than traditionally port injection. Port injection helps keep the back of the valves clean because the fuel hitting the back of the valves naturally helps clean them. While direct injection is certainly better in many ways you loose this cleaning effect. To say they added port injection on top of direct injection for “extra” fuel I think is a little off. Plenty of DI only engines out there making vastly more power on DI alone and the same can be said about port only engines. BMW and Mercedes ran into this issues on early DI only engines having excess build up very quickly on the back of valves and requiring the valves to be walnut blasted to clean. Adding port injection on top of DI in order to get the better efficiency of DI but also the occasional port injection cleaning action is the real reason and it’s a win win.
You are correct .. the outboard engine manufacturer OMC went bankrupt with their Fitch system .. that was the parent company of Johnson/Evinrude . Carbon deposits build up heavy then fall into the cylinder wall causing scaring and ultimately blow by ..
@@windellpenton also read how they're putting engine egr upstream of the turbo and it gunks up the turbo so now turbo decarbon is considered scheduled maintenance on bmw and others cha ching
He didn’t want to say “all our single injector engines have a design flaw”! That cold start comment about piston lube whatever is untrue. Any cold start lube problems are caused by liquid fuel “washing down” the oil on the cylinder walls, cause excess wear and oil dilution. Problem solved by direct injection.
Great video and very helpful. Love mine! You missed the most important benefit of the port-direct fuel injection setup: no carbon build-up on the intake valves.
That is not correct. The reason Ford put a secondary fuel injection on the new eco boost is because the direct injection motors were getting to much carbon build up on the intake valves.
We have a 2018 F-150 with the 3.5 Ecoboost v-6 and haven’t had any problems with it. I keep the oil changed every 5,000 miles and use synthetic oil and Motorcraft oil filters.
I have a 2015 3.5 eco boost. With 250,000 MILES. The engine has performed great! I just replaced the water pump first time the truck has been touched except for oil, tires, and brakes. Life of the truck averaged 18.8 miles per gallon Pretty happy with the performance
@@markholmesdeleted33362015 2.7 here. I never even changed transmission oil until just yesterday at 126,000 miles. I haven’t babied it at all times. I’ve even hauled 2300 in the bed. I’ve only had to change minor things like oxygen sensor, and oil pan.
This is the comment I was looking for I’m gonna buy a 2015 platinum !!!!! Timing chain ⛓️💥 cam phasers and all gaskets is the first order I’d busniess
I'll never own one of these again. I had a 2014 with 60k miles and it had coolant leaks on both turbos, a bad crank sensor that left us stranded on the side of the road, a failing starter motor, & the cold start timing chain rattle. A friend of mine had a 2018 Lariat with the 3.5 and 10 speed and it also had cam phaser issues (cold start rattle), and transmission issues. Another still has a 2019 Platinum with the 3.5 and is also having the cold start rattle issue. The 3.5 EB engine makes great power when its running right but has WAY too many problems well before 100k miles.
@@jkeelsnc I traded my never out of the shop Toyota Tacoma that only had 70,000 miles after 7 years (hint: spent that much time in the shop) on my no issues 2018 F150 2.7 that has 114,000 miles on it. My Dad’s 2019 Toyota Avalon was recalled and unable to repair for so long he got rid of it with only 8,000 miles on it. Not sure about Toyota’s reliability.
My 2014 3.5 turbos leaked, one at 75k and the other at 99k, latter out of warranty. Probably 60k miles I started setting oil change reminder at 50%. I’m still keen on Fords. Tacomas are great and I’d never buy gm or dodge (biased reasons). I put $4k in repairs and maintenance around 100k miles ($3k was unplanned). Other than this, it’s been great. Reading multiple comments of how great the 2.7 is might look at that one.
Had a 2018 raptor and drove it 105,000 miles. Cam phasers failed 3 times. Replaced them twice and traded it in for a ram the 3rd time. Wish ford could have fixed this because I really didn't want the get rid of the truck but I wasn't about to spend 4 grand every time it happens after the warranty was up
@@hexhead5732 my 2017 Platinum has had the cam phasers replaced (motor sounded like a diesel on cold start), torque converter replaced and the 10 speed transmission overhauled (transmission would buck and slam into gears) this was done between 30k-50k miles (under factory & extended warranty). I only had to pay the $200 deductible. I have my oil and filter changed every 5k miles. I use Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 5w30 and a Mobil 1 filter, so dirty oil shouldn't be the cause of the cam phasers failing. I currently have 60k on the truck. I'm hoping it will be more reliable going forward.
Just turned 108K on my '17 I have the coolant changed every 50K along with the plugs and do oil at 7500. No issues as of yet. Love the 10spd with it. Jealous of the extra 25hp the new ones have. These are basically the same engines they won Le Mans with a few years back.
@@vmon215 .. for many people 100k miles is a lot. I personally drive 7000 miles a year so 100k miles is 14 years for me. Even if I drove 12k miles a year that's almost 9 years. That is a significant amount of time and miles.
@@johnmccoul6350 I think the days of 300k+ are gone. Keep her running as long as you can! Wishing I would've bought a 4.6 or 5.4 when they were newer. REALLY wish I wouldn't have totaled my ole 4.9 i6.
The reason for the port injection is to keep the valves clean. The earlier 3.5L EcoBoost only had direct injection. Optimum performance, but without fuel spraying on the valves, they had really bad carbon build up on the intake valves. Common problem with all direct injection engines, not just Fords.
@@MrRacso2000tj yeah it is. 2017 is when they added port injection but don't fear... I have a 2014 and Sea Foam it through the intake at least once a year to clean the intake valves. No problems with carbon.
have the engine in F150 and Flex; no issues so far at 98K. and 59K miles, what I like most is the large RPM range of torque, My 5.0L F150 is week at lower rpm on torque compared to ecoboost, and ecoboost towing is treat with the torque range. Fuel economy is about equal with my driving habits.
Ford has obviously told you many of the good points about the 3.5 EB. I owned a '19 XLT EB and put about 49k miles on it including two cross country runs towing trailers. It's a pleasure to drive and gets good mileage, overall. What this video does not cover is the numerous recalls, including can phaser programming updates and engine warranty extensions to help calm owners who are hearing reports of premature engine failure. More than one Ford employee told me my plan to hold on to the truck into high mileage might be a risky decision. But anyone buying an F-150 weighing in under 5k lbs to tow loads over 9k lbs needs to take time to adjust to its handling characteristics, particularly if you're moving down from any HD pickup.
I just bought a 2015 SHO. Really excited about the setup. The only thing I was told is to run Really high quality OIL and to keep it full to avoid timing chain issues.
Update ended up buying a powerboost in seaside, California. Sooner than I thought my 2013 truck was going out while on vacation dealer had told me there was only 3 so far in California and one with the kings ranch interior with the platinum model. So I bought it. Awesome truck and pulling power going on 1900 miles and still learning this truck. Something happen on way to work, it turn on the turn signsl for me. Is it learning how I get to work???
I have a 2014 V-6 3.5 (46,000 miles) and I love it. I put a oil catch can system on it and it is smooth as butter. If Ford is going to continue selling Ecoboost engines, they must address the need for an oil catch can system. They know about it and say they are working on it, but haven't addressed the need.
I have a a 2017 3.5 eccobost the 7-10k mile oil change is the biggest mistake people can make. With it being a Direct injection engine over time fuel will get past the piston rings and into the oil. It will mess up the viscosity of the oil. It will no longer lubricate properly. It’s part of the reason the eccoboost have cam phaser issues and timing chain slap.
@@jonathanpesek842 Actually that is not oil related but a design issue. Ford "supposedly" has new parts that corrected it under a TSB. Supposedly, not saying they actually did. You had the famous cold start knock I take it?
@ jonathan pesek- the cam phaser issue isn’t caused by poor oil change habits, they’re just poorly designed. I usually replace a set of phasers on F150 every week and it’s not unusual to have a truck in for the procedure for a second or third time! I just finished a truck that went 17k miles since the previous phaser replacement - less than 12 months! Inside of that engine was immaculate.
I have a 2021 XLT Sport Supercab in Iconic Silver with the 3.5 twin turbo and it is fantastic. 2 thumbs way up. We did the 20" wheels and black out pkg so basically, we built a loaded new hot rod truck. I Love it.
What a lot of dont realize is these are not just engines with bolted on turbos, they were built for turbo charging and handling high pressures do your maintenance folks is key and get them on the highway once in a while for a nice long run
went from a 2012 F150 XLT with the Coyote 5.0 to a 2018 Lariat with the 3.5 EB..........love the instant power of the 3.5, but I should have kept my Coyote 5.0 as I am putting the EB back in the shop next Monday, for the 2ND TIME for the damned cam phaser issue, and I don't even have 34K on it yet..........next truck will be a Tundra or Tacoma.
One great thing about the 3.5 Eco motor on the f150, the water pump is mounted externally. Not so hard to replace and if it fails it doesn't dump anti freeze into the oil. The 3.5 Eco motor used in the transverse / SUV applications has the water pump internally, which is a far inferior system. I suppose when mounted transverse they don't have the room for the water pump mounted externally.
My brother is a mechanic and I have a 15 3.5 eco twin turbo Explorer Sport. He was like when its time to change the water pump you might as well trade it in as that is a complete PIA to do. Also installed a catch can in it to stop the slow oil drip into the engine. It catches about a shot or 2 of oil in there at every oil change that otherwise that would get in the engine and eventually mess things up.
I own a 2016 ecoboost F150 quad 4x4 3.5.This is like a race car engine . I love the power and economy. I put a catch can on my direct injection . 40,000 miles and no problems in five years.I let my Ford dealer change my oil at 5,000 miles. Oil is cheaper than a new motor.Keep my air cleaner clean too. My truck is faster than my 69 GTO was
Idk about that man, the ecoboost is much better than the V8. The V8 has a lot of problems. The turbos last the entire life of the truck. I’ve had both and my ecoboost has always out performed my V8. Plus it was much faster and more fun to drive than the V8.
@@CJColvin because they didn’t have the technology at the time to make the ecoboost. A V8 is much more simple. You don’t have to worry about the turbos in the ecoboost either, they are aircraft grade and are water cooled. They can take a lot of torture.
@@TCcustoms_ As much as i do like the 3.5 liter EcoBoost and not saying that to be sarcastic . I actually built a compound turbo setup on a 2013 F-150 with two turbos mounted flush in the box of the truck . Fun project but labor intensive mounting the oil and air coolers . I do although question pulling heavy loads i.e. travel trailers only because i do understand turbo charging . Getting a 32 foot travel trailer moving from a dead stop is a-lot for a V6 engine until the turbos start to spool . I have seen the horsepower curve on a dyno with my own eyes and also have seen how little boost was made below the 3000 rpm range .
I just bought a 2021 F150 Lariat while I wait for my Bronco order. It has the 3.5 eco boost, always had the 5.0L so far so good. I’m impressed with the power thus far, plus nice to have a bit better gas mileage!
I think you will find the Bronco exactly that, rough ride compared to the Lariat I’m sure. I have the F150 2021 Lariat and I’m very surprised how smooth quiet a ride it is!
Be truthful. Dual injectors are needed to spray fuel onto valve stems and back of the valves to prevent the fatal flaw if direct injection motors. Now your explanation beyond this point applies. Good to see Ford has reacted with this solution.
I was in your shoes 8 years ago and made the switch to the Ecoboost and have absolutely no regrets. Great low end torque, fast, zero issues and good fuel economy both regular driving and towing.
Hello my name is Josh I’m soon getting a new Ford F-150 XLT sport next year with the 3.5 ECOBOOST and max towing package do you guys do mirror wrap with me same color as the truck . But as soon as I get it i take it to you guys for a 2.5” level kit with off road tires/ rim with enough capacity for towing with dual exhaust
You know that leveling your truck effects your towing right? Going to make it squat when you do tow and put that 10% tongue weight on.. headlights are shining in everyone's eyes and slightly reduced braking and turning ability
I love my 2021 F150 3.5 EcoBoost. Pulls my trailer no issues and has alot of power. This one's my 4 th truck since 2012 with the 3.5 EcoBoost and I never had problems other than getting speeding tickets.....lol
I thought that the purpose of an intercooler was to cool the air after its been compressed by the turbo. The cooler it is the higher the density, which allows it to move faster through and pack more of it into the engine
I think you accomplish the same thing by compressing cooled air, instead of cooling compressed air? Given the looks of that intercooler I'd hate to be pushing pressurized air through it.
Absolutely love my 2011 F-150 Platinum ,went on vacation ,took my truck on the highway and passing a car or too my husband fell in love with my Truck! Couldn’t believe the power it had. ,,,, he drives a 2016 V-8 Mustang, 😊
I have the little v6 eco boost I believe it's a 2.6 L. Love it. A 2016 model and I have gotten 24 mpg driving 62 to 65 mph down interstate. I've got 75000 on her. I sometimes pull a camper and a small horse trailer, not at the same time
@@solarfall2728 how have they improved over the time they have been in production? What are some issues that they have had and what did Ford do to improve it? Assuming with the regular advancements in technology, what might Ford introduce with the Maverick engine that could make it even better? MPG? Any special preventative maintenance that is unique to this engine? Thank you.
Second generation Ford twin turbos. No major problems on most engines. Oil change 10K no way. I would have to wait too long to drink that beer after a job well done.
The only bad years were 2017-2020 due to a subpar part with the cam phaser setup...that has been TOTALLY CORRECTED AS OF 2021 MODELS....all years before and after those 4 were essentially great and many testimonies of 200-400,000 miles on them without issues...just gen maintenance.. the 2.7 and 5.0 are/were rock solid in all years...
@@claudegrinnell9602 change the oil every 3,000-5,000mi. The goal is to change it before it turns black. Run 91-93 octane gas. Keep an eye on your coolant level. Coolant leaks are common.
@@7natcho your right, but the second generation 3.5l with the 10 speed transmission first came out in 2017. I was wondering if the 2021 3.5l is considered the 3rd generation by Ford because they seemed to have made so many changes since 2017.
I love the 6"bds lift I got on my 14. 3.5l is a torque monster but one of the weak leaks is the factory exhaust manifolds and gasket. I recommend the cr performance full bore polished manifolds with stainless gaskets.
ford always have had terrible manifolds and gaskets, up here in the rust belt especially with salt on the roads I drove fords to plow snow and I have seen countless ford trucks driving around with manifold leaks, meanwhile the cheverolet trucks driving around are silent
My 2020 Escape has the 4 banger 2.5 liter Ecoboost, feels like a V8 and gets great mileage..Did not know about the variable DOC geometry and the duel direct and port FI tech, I guess this is where the sport , eco and regular settings all come from..Liquid cooled turbos though..Ford is rocking it! This is FORD COUNTRY on a cool night you can here GMs/Chevies rust..
That was my concern. I was waiting for him to mention that. Do I need to do the carbon cleaning maintenance or does the port injectors effective enough to do the job?
Keep an eye on your coolant/oil, that one has the internal water pump that can leak coolant into the oil. Those are nice cars though, I've rented them and loved the mix of luxury and performance. I bet it's fun at 450!
Try some Lucas stabilizer, if it helps it's just the tensioner not the chain itself and you can limp it for quite a while with lucas. If not you'll need to get it looked at. Use the synthetic stabilizer cause the HD will screw with your VVT system.
I have 2016 supercrew lifted 4x4. ¹30000 miles. I routinely will weigh 25,000lbs across the scales at the local gravel pit. No problems whatsoever. Tow haul mode has no turbo lag. Specially empty on the interstate. Checked it at 80,000 miles 0-60 5.7 seconds. It sometimes will break rear tires lose at 50 if you really want to get after it.
Tow haul mode is great. I used it a lot this summer hauling trailers when I moved my family 300 miles. I like how it upshifts and downshifts to make the best used of the gear ratios. Slowing down to stop etc. it downshifts to provide engine braking. Works great.
I daily drive a 2003 Mini Cooper S (supercharged engine) that I’m the original owner. It specifies full synthetic oil and that oil counter in the dash display counts down from 15k miles until the next oil change. I’ve run the full 15k miles a couple of times but generally stick to 10k because it’s easier to track. My car now has over 160k miles and when I recently replaced the valve cover gasket, the valve train was perfectly clean - looks as good as a 30k mile engine.
@@ghostwrench2292 Unless your engine is a GDI it's not really a fair comparison. The 1st generation EB engines, like others that are purely GDI suffered because the oil becomes quickly contaminated with fuel. They also tend to see high amounts of carbon build up on the intake valves because there is no fuel to wash the valves. I followed Ford's original 10K LOF interval...a long time ago, and they ended up replacing the cam phasers, guides, etc... an expensive repair at Ford's cost, not mine. I've backed down to 5K and 70,000 miles later no issues and 150K on the motor now. To be fair they've completely redesigned the fuel system by adding multi port injection along with the GDI. The MPI is for normal, lower rpm operation and the GDI is for higher rpm use with better efficiency and power.
Engine and oil technology is different. I personally dont run oil for 10k but 3k is wasting good oil. My Mustang is the exception since it runs on ethanol and routinely sees high temps and 7500rpm.
Keep doing it at 3k and don't listen to any of those clowns who tell you otherwise. If you have an older, reliable motor with port fuel injection, 5k is fine. But the newer motors with turbo's, cam phasers and direct injection, run very dirty. 5k and it looks like it came out of a diesel. Also change your trans fluid more often than the manual says to. Don't flush it. A drain and refill is all you need.
I have to correct you. In the past ,having to allow the engine to cool down before turning off was due to oil coking. This happened because you shut the engine off and oil is no longer flowing thru the turbo sitting in the hot turbo center section.
@@rds990 Yours isn't even broken in yet LOL, I usually put around 35,000 miles a year on a vehicle, I now have 350,000 miles on my truck, still running strong! 😁👍
@@TCcustoms_ I own a 2017 Ford F150 with a 5.0 V8 here in Canada please do a review video on that engine as well. My truck has been pretty reliable so far .
Another question. How does Ford vary the turbo output? When you accelerate hard there is positive pressure in the intake manifold. When you are cruising at highway speed there is a vacuum in the intake manifold. Admittedly at cruising speed the engine is only turning about 1800 RPM but the turbos should still be compressing the incoming air slightly.
I have a '19 King Ranch with the Fx4 and towing package. Originally was on the market for a V8, for similar reasons as other people's. Did more research and test-drove an Ecoboost, loved it. First thing I bought was an Oil Carch Can. Amazing motor.
One of the big reasons Ford went to a dual fuel injection system is because of carbon build up. That was a product of only using direct injection (DI as it is known), where the cylinder walls and the valves start to get carbon build up, which is bad for the engine and performance. I think some people use some kind of "catch can" on the first gen engines to reduce this problem. Ford addressed that problem by adding port fuel injection. I am assuming this dual injection setup fixed the carbon problem.
Yup, most of it was due to the EGR recirculating exhaust and coking up the valves. Take apart any port injection motor and the intake runner after the injector and the back of the valve will be real clean.
And yet, no one to date has visual proof of it with the 3.5 Ecoboost because Ford has a patented timing system that back flows fuel behind the valves to prevent it. All the pictures out there of supposed Ecoboost intakes are actually Audi engines. The smaller EB 4 cylinders do occasionally carbon up, but the 3.5 is not one of them. IOW this is a myth.
@@jkeelsnc and Toyota copied what ford did with the dual injection.there was no “gravy train” as you called it, ford once again was the forefront of new technology 12 yrs ago
@@jkeelsnc it was proven technology, ford had yrs of R&D before they put it into production. Toyota dumped their v8 and copied fords TT and the dual injection, it’s very obvious,, to sensible folks anyway
is it true that you dont have to change the transmission, diffs and gearbox oil until 240,000km? Thats what the manual says seems like a lot of km for oil.
I got a 2012 with 130k miles on it and the turbos are just starting to sound like i may be needing to rebuild them… might as well upgrade the impeller wheel, exhaust and tune while im at it 🤷🏽♂️
You'll will love the tune! I wish I tune mine when I bought it. 2014 with 45k on it. Been tuned the past 5k miles. It just drives better tuned. 5 star 87 octane street/tow tune on a SCT tuner. Tows the 8500lb trailer no problem at high elevation.
Loved it people need to know, especially women need to know what turbocharged engines do! So glad the old school Racing technology has finally made it way into every day cars and trucks! Just bought my wife a 2.0 turbo. It was A Ford Corporate car. So its Still considered her first owner car .Its a 2019 Fusion SLE All wheel drive. It's like a Mustang with 2 extra doors for the kids lol . Now I don't have to find my Mustang Disappearing as much lol . Thank you
Dad just picked up a 2021 3.5. Awesome truck as long as the motor holds up. I told him to go with the ecoboost because the ecoboost has been getting updates with each generation. The 2018+ 5.0 has had many issues and they are not built as good. 2021 5.0 just switched to cylinder deactivation and a rubber belt driven oil pump. Not sure how well that is going to go after watching GM fail but Ford is usually a little better about testing. If this ecoboost holds up then I m sold on it. I was getting 24 mpg the other day with the cruise set on 70. Crazy to think in a crew cab 6.5' bed 4x4.
got a 23' 3.5 and its impressive. Traded my 22' 5.7 Bighorn for the ford 3.5 XLT. 3.5 beats the hemi in everyway. Also think the 10 speed helps a lot in the ford. But Ram does have the Hurrican on the way for 25'
@@dankruger2890 I’m very curious to see how that engine performs. The inline 6 making that much power is going to be crazy. Hopefully it will be good for Ram. The hemi was getting long in the tooth with no updates in years. The truck in the video is at 107k miles now. Gear shifter was replaced under warranty and had a few recalls but no major issues yet. My dads truck is now at 107k miles. Had the shifter replaced under warranty and a few recalls done but that’s it. All of that is really just part of having a first year of a new body style. He still loves the truck
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My 3.5 EcoBoost is a beast. Tows like a diesel. I've never had a problem towing and I regularly tow over 9k. 87k miles on odometer, no issues.
I have 340k miles on my 2013 F150 eco boost, a lot of it towing a trailer. It is bulletproof.
Original turbos?
@@rvd2960 Yes the original turbo are still running strong 💪
@@jollyranch1026 sounds good! That's my main concern
The eco boost engine technology is absolutely amazing. Haters always gonna hate.
Only if you do good maintenance. I have a 2015 with 76k miles on it. I bought it used with 63k on it. The motor just spun a rod bearing due to gunk building up and plugging all the sensors and oil pump. Completely flooding the motor with metal shavings. No low oil pressure warning. No codes. Now it has a jasper reman engine. 🤢
Moral of the story. These trucks are incredible with awesome power. BUT... buy it new so you know the maintenance history or if used make sure you get proof of regular oil changes. (Saying this from a guy who only buys used)
Personally got a 2013 f150 with the 3.5 ecoboost with a 181000 miles and it has been an absolute amazing truck no issues at all other than regular maintenance every 5k
Do you tow alot
Your turbo coolant haven’t leaked? My 2014 3.5 had one leak at 75k and another at 99k miles. Ford put quick connect fasteners that fail. Wonder if they fixed this in recent years
@@chuck4abuck1 I heard they fixed it in the new models. Also that they replaced the parts using strong materials.
Duel cam twice the chance of things going wrong!!! Two turbo's case closed
My '16 F150 with the 2.7 , best truck and engine I have ever had in 50 yrs of driving.
Keep oil changed every 3500 miles with Penzoil Platinum, cheap insurance.
Pulls our RV at GVCW 12,500 in hills and mountains like it is not loaded.
2wd, and a 3.31 axle.
Never strains, engine is smooth and rotationally silent.
Uses no oil, truck by itself on interstate kept at 65mph gets 25mpg +/-.
I am happy with it.
I wish Ford would redesign the 3.5 using 2.7 tech so if I ever need a bigger set up a 3.5 max tow would be there.
I love it.
Good video. Your best comment was your last one. Yes Ford recommends 10,000 mile oil change. Don't do that!! Reset the oil indicator in your dash to 50% life (approx. 5,500 miles). I am original owner, 2013 F150, 3.5 eco, 240,000 miles, Mobile 1 oil. Pull a 24ft boat almost every weekend, and a 30ft travel trailer in the winter months, other than water pump, plugs, coil packs, and a throttle-body...everything is original!! So, I believe everything that is pointed out in most RUclips videos, is lack of proper maintenance. Would I buy another? Yes, and I am! The 3.5 ecoboost is one of the most technological advanced engines out there! If you take care of it, it will absolutely "haul-the-mail".
I have a 2019 F150 with the 3.5 Ecoboost. It's had Mobil 1 oil changes every 5,000 miles. It had cam phaser failure at 48,000 miles. Now at 85,000 miles the valve covers are leaking and it has bad cam phasers again. What a great truck...
Mine was awful too. So pretty, and the most comfortable seats/interior… but by far the most unreliable vehicle I’ve ever had.
52k Miles on my Ecoboost. 2019 CAM phaser issue. I got rid of it. The car was at the shop too long for warranty issues.
Should have got the 2.7
Needs the updated phasers…they likely just put the original model back in hence the re-failure
I got a 2021 platinum 3.5 in January before the chip fiasco. I loooove it. 10000 miles already and no problems. Rides and drives great. I talked to 4 people with older 3.5’s. Lowest millege is 60000, highest is 178000. Neither one has had any problems.
That’s hysterical, you obviously haven’t googled “ecoboost overheating while towing” or “ecoboost premature timing chain wear”
@@MrDmitryd9 and you e not been on the 5.0 forums much
@@MrDmitryd9 Here are a couple solutions to those problems.
First one: Stop towing F-250+ loads with an F-150. If you're someone who's gonna be towing heavy loads often or in challenging conditions, upgrade to a more capable truck.
Second one: Change the oil every 5k miles or so like most people here are saying. The primary reason that even happens at all is because of lack of frequent oil changes.
Come back when there's another 0 on the end of the mileage.
@@austin3626 will do that…. My 2014 3.5 had 236000 on it when sold. Had to replace some sensor, and two fuel injectors.
Currently driving a 2nd gen 3.5l, over 120k miles and still going strong
120k? Always kills me how people with new vehicles think that is high. No matter the make you should expect double that (exceptions for extreme abuse and poor maintenace).
@@98dodge360v8 in a span of 3 years that’s an average of 40,000* miles a year, that’s a lot for an engine that’s known to collapse under stress
@@flamingrock1179 No offense 40k a year isnt even in the top 3 of people I know (all drive v8s of various makes). I've alway had issue with the ecoboost durability but to hear it from an owner of a ecoboost is new.
@@98dodge360v8 I think the grain liquor has had some horrible effects brother…
I've owned several trucks over 250k and have had good luck with Ford and Chevy. Ford was the better truck overall. Ram I had lots of issues before 100k, the lifters started ticking, front end, water pump and electrical issues. I doubt I'll own another Ram.
I've had a 2015 3.5 and just love it. Besides tires and oil changes, never had an issue with it at all... I won't be getting rid of it anytime soon.
It’s been about a year now, how’s the truck doing? Just got myself a 2015 3.5 as well.
You got a good one. my 2015 king ranch has 186,000 miles and needs $8k worth of repairs. I'm going back to the 6.7
@@randyosborn284 what happened
@@wtjonny turbo. oil leaks. cooling system...
How many miles?
This might’ve been the most simple and easiest to understand video describing the ecoboost I’ve seen I’m becoming a huge fan of this engine
This video came up on autoplay and I watched the whole thing due to your A+ presentation style. Good job explaining the technical details and positive disposition.
I have the 5.0 but I drove a 3.5 yesterday. It’s pretty impressive. Not sure if im ready to do it but it intrigues me. Good explanation of the motor. It explains why the tunes give it so much more horsepower
Stay away from the eco boost,I’m on my third motor,1st was at 70,000.2nd at 130,000,third as of now.
Ford tough,what a piece of shit,I will never buy another ford product in my life.
203,800 miles and still kicking on my 13 eco😂
Any maintenance hints? My '13 semi-died at ~90K miles with timing chain and turbo, waste gate problems.
That’s it? 😂🤣
I'm at 240k miles but I've heard horror stories too honestly I think it comes down to how the people that assembled them were feeling the day they built your truck same with the v8 though
202k, you looked at your valve covers?? I heard there alot of build up
250,000 I changed my oil every 10,000.
The coking that you mentioned isn't due to rapid cooling of the turbos. When the engine has been working hard the turbos heat up and when you shut down the engine they get even hotter. The oil that lubricates the turbos stops moving and the excess heat from the engine cooks the oil causing the coking problem.
Nooooo it doesn’t.....
@@K9388-n3z same thing happens in deisels
this is true, read the manual for after hard use, allow engine to idle for 10-15 minutes to allow cooling for the turbo.
@@juggernautxtr I really have no clue. Just wait to see the gearheads go crazy....
@@K9388-n3z looks like the joke's on you.
I have a 2018 F-150 with the 3.5 Eco engine. I grew up with fast cars in the '60s and this engine makes incredible power. My only issue was the valve train had to be built at 55,000 (under warranty), due to the "death rattle" as I have heard it called, at start up. I purchased the Ford ESP up to 150,000 for the possible technology problems so, I'm good until then. It pulls my 20 ft. bass boat like it's not ever there. I change the oil every 5000 miles as well, currently 75,000 miles and counting.
HOW MUCH WAS THAT EXTENDED WARRANTY
Bought my F150 3.5 used with 57,000. Changed oil every 5,000 miles with mostly synthetic oil. The truck has 174,000 miles now. Zero engine issues! Zero rust on the aircraft aluminum body and truck bed. This truck has pulled an 18 foot trailer full of oak firewood several times over 150 miles. The engine is fast, quick and powerful while the truck body is lighter than steel. 2015 model XLT which I can not bring myself to TRADE IN for newer version. Had 1 issue with electrical transmission computer but the truck runs like new now. Have been driving Ford trucks over 35 years and this ecoboost is without a doubt the best performing engine I have had.👍👍👍
i had a 2011,13,14 F150s with the 3.5 turbos and they were awesome!!!!!!!!!! drove from lexington KY to ERIE pa with 1 tank of gas doing 85mph all the way to erie pa...super awesome motors
Love my 2013 f150 v6 eco boost have just 113k on it now and it’s doing great. Love my truck.
I was an eco boost hater until we bought my wife a 2016 explorer have over 100,000 miles on it with out one issue made me a believer
How often do you change the oil?
You dont tow with it obviously .... in a mid size SUV great. But they heat soak/ cut power and over heat more then oldschool big block....
@@MormonMustang_ every 5000 miles
@@nasty3145 Well, if he doesn’t (I won’t assume), I sure do. 2018 F-150 w/ EB. Regularly tow a 8000 lb, 33’ Jayco travel trailer. Truck just hit 34,000 miles. No issues. Great engine! Oh, and I run a 5 star E50 and 93 performance tune. And STILL no issues.
Guy I worked with had 260,000 miles and never had a problem. He had a 2013. Traded it in for a new one last year. He changed his oil regularly.
Great video, love your channel. I bought a new FX4 XLT at the end of 2019 and decided to go with the 3.5 eco boost. My younger brother has a 2013 platinum with a 3.5 and about 60,000 trouble free miles. Mine has about 32,000 miles on it and so far it’s the best truck I’ve owned. I heard about the 10,000 mile oil change when I first got mine, so I started researching it. Just about every thing I’ve read, or watched, says absolutely do not do that. I’ve seen tear down videos on the 3.5 showing what they look like when people do that, and I’ve seen videos by Ford master techs saying to stick with 3,500 to 5,000 max. That being said, people should do whatever makes them comfortable, as for me, I’ll stick with 3,500 mile oil changes.
Smart man. Don’t listen to anybody telling you that 10k+ oil changes are fine. If you’re like me and want your truck to last as long as possible, 5k is the max. I never go further than 4K. Oil is cheap, engines are expensive
I do 10k km oil changes on my hemi with pennzoil platinum 5w-20. If your saying you can’t go over 5600km on an oil change I find that ridiculous. Before you shun me you should know that my truck has 130,000km on it with 30,000 being towing which sometimes it reaches 125 degrees C when I have my foot in towing a 9000lb trailer up mountains. Id consider an eco post for towing but if it requires that 3500mile oil change no thanks.
@@kylewitzel3540 , not saying you should do anything, I’m just relaying what I’ve read and watched. Seen several videos of engine tear downs of the 3.5 that show more sludge in the engine than I like. If you are having good luck with 10,000 mile oil changes, by all means, keep doing what you’re doing. My personal choice is to change oil every 3500 miles.
@@kylewitzel3540 oil is cheap why take the chance. I’d never go 10k on an oil change even in non turbo engines.
@@kylewitzel3540 it looks like you’re talking about 10k km oil changes and were talking about 10k miles. If you’re doing oil changes at 10k km, that’s a little over 6k miles so we’re not too far off. There are tons of people doing 10k mile oil changes, which is over 16k km.
Do whatever u want man, but if you talk to any honest mechanic, they’ll tell you that anything over 6k to 7k miles is pushing it. I don’t see why you would even chance it. It’s like $30 and 20 min to change your oil. I want my truck to last 200k miles so I’m gonna change it every 3k to 5k
Guys, don't forget to drill a 1/16" hole in the bottom/driver side of your intercooler.
I have a 1st gen, and my valves have been clean for 70k miles since i drilled that hole.
When i cranked her up after drilling the hole, about 6 oz of creamy oil+condensation blew out. Now its just a oil-damp stain on the back of my air dam. No more idle hickups or acceleration choking in wet weather.
I have a 2.7 ego boost f150 now for 5 years and it still run great never been in the shop yet
Same here
Early versions of 3.5 didn't have port injection, only direct injection. Early versions without port injection had issues w carbon buildup on valves. Ford addressed by adding port injection on later versions of 3.5
The fix for the older engines is to just floor it once a week to knock any deposits off the valves. Most people do that anyway though.
The Italian Tune up!
My 2015 ecoboost has 200,000. It's a direct injection.
@@austin3626 they'll run. I have a friend with 180k on his. Only issue is with the coils and plugs. He's not easy on it.
@@jerth ah... no
I have a black 2012 F150 Platinum 4x4 with the 3.5L Ecoboost. 3inch lift and 35'' Iron Man Mud Tires. At 241,000 miles, I dropped cylinder 4 on Interstate 20 outside Atlanta headed back to North Alabama. Swapped the motor in my garage and now have 284,000 miles. Now having the Lead Frame Module issue on my 6R80 transmission. Gonna be swapping that out soon. I've had 2 major problems but other than that truck has been great. I love my truck and would not trade it for anything. I'll keep fixing it till I can't no more.
The port fuel injection also cleans the back side of the intake valve, solving or delaying the buildup problem with the first gen ecoboost engine.
And second gen
It's for any direct injection engine really, the intake tract is completely dry but the PVC still pulls oil vapor through.
I bought a ‘19 new with 3.5 … absolutely no regrets. Lots of fun to drive and no issues
I have a 2019 Lariat with 3.5 EcoBoost.I love it! No complaints
Me too , love it!
At 2 years old... I'd hope not
@@stephenhodge6441 Same excellent experience here, on my third Ecoboost. Wonderful engine.......... scads of torque and goes like skunk. Zero issues with this engine............. absolutely love everyone I've owned
91k miles on my '14 F150 ecoboost, bought new. Full synthetic oil change and tire rotation every 5k miles (Motorcraft oil filter). In the shop for a turbo coolant leak once, replaced the throttle body another time, replaced the heater/vent blower motor another. On the second set of tires and third battery. My '05 Xterra was never in the shop during the 106k miles I put on it.
"I change my oil every 5k, but no reason to doubt ford on 10k" yeah right
Hey, as long as the engine makes it past the warranty! Ford doesn't care after that. Go to 10k miles and you are talking new motor and turbos. No one out in the world will recommend going over 5k miles with that engine! Unless they don't care about giving good advice.
10k with full synthetic under moderate driving condition is fine. Folks are living in the past i.e. conventional oils have a lot shorter life than synthetic. But hey, your truck, your choice. Just base it on evidence, not conjecture.
I was told that they give that guidance on oil changes so they can get you into their service dept more often to take your right arm and your firstborn child.🙊🙈🙉
Similar to any other vehicle manufacturer these days.
@@geraldcadyii5772 We used to say that when oil change interval went from 2K to 5K, me included..... but I now wait until 4K to schedule an oil change. I've driven my previous 2 Ford/Lincoln cars now up to 80K/60K miles on odometer with no engine issues. Lincoln has Ecoboost, small Ford daily driver does not. And I DO NOT use synthetic oil.
Love your videos. Wife has a 2015 king ranch with 5.0, love it. Wasn’t a big fan of the 3.5 but after seeing them perform on the job and my brother has one towing his camper, I’m convinced. The towing ability of the 3.5 is crazy.
It is isn’t it. Both mine outpulls my old truck which was a a 2004 tow tuned duramax diesel
I have a 2020 king ranch I really enjoy driving. Ford advertises the max turbo boost as 15 psi which should therefore provide twice standard atmospheric pressure to the intake system. So presumably you can cram twice the air in which should be equivalent to a displacement of 7.0L or 427ci. That is why the light weight aluminum body combined with the V6 is so much fun to drive and still gets pretty good mileage on eco cruise control on the highway.
No way would I go 10k miles on an oil change. Oil is a lot cheaper then an engine.
Smart man
Nope not on any engine. 5k max and I use full synthetic as well
Too much focus is on mileage. I change mine twice a year whether I go 5k miles or 14k miles that year.
The people who are on the highway all the time putting 20k miles a year might get away with 10k changes
@@jamesalexander958 think about it you have twin turbos spinning at 20,000 rpm you need to keep good clean oil to keep those turbos healthy. I go 5k max that’s it and I’m changing it
@@timschultes6467 good point, though highway driving might not use boost very often. Anyway that's why I went with the coyote
Interesting talking points on the direct injection and port injection. I think you missed a critical point of putting port injection in combination with DI. Direct injection has an issue with allowing build up of junk on the back of the valves much faster and aggressively than traditionally port injection. Port injection helps keep the back of the valves clean because the fuel hitting the back of the valves naturally helps clean them. While direct injection is certainly better in many ways you loose this cleaning effect. To say they added port injection on top of direct injection for “extra” fuel I think is a little off. Plenty of DI only engines out there making vastly more power on DI alone and the same can be said about port only engines. BMW and Mercedes ran into this issues on early DI only engines having excess build up very quickly on the back of valves and requiring the valves to be walnut blasted to clean. Adding port injection on top of DI in order to get the better efficiency of DI but also the occasional port injection cleaning action is the real reason and it’s a win win.
also heard about di vs pi relating to cold startup di has shown to cause some cylinder/piston lube problems in some vehicles
You are correct .. the outboard engine manufacturer OMC went bankrupt with their Fitch system .. that was the parent company of Johnson/Evinrude .
Carbon deposits build up heavy then fall into the cylinder wall causing scaring and ultimately blow by ..
@@windellpenton also read how they're putting engine egr upstream of the turbo and it gunks up the turbo so now turbo decarbon is considered scheduled maintenance on bmw and others cha ching
He didn’t want to say “all our single injector engines have a design flaw”!
That cold start comment about piston lube whatever is untrue. Any cold start lube problems are caused by liquid fuel “washing down” the oil on the cylinder walls, cause excess wear and oil dilution. Problem solved by direct injection.
Great video and very helpful. Love mine! You missed the most important benefit of the port-direct fuel injection setup: no carbon build-up on the intake valves.
That is not correct. The reason Ford put a secondary fuel injection on the new eco boost is because the direct injection motors were getting to much carbon build up on the intake valves.
@@mikelloyd2013 right…that’s what I said.
We have a 15 eco van thats pushing over 303k. Basic maintenance and oil change around 7k.
We have a 2018 F-150 with the 3.5 Ecoboost v-6 and haven’t had any problems with it. I keep the oil changed every 5,000 miles and use synthetic oil and Motorcraft oil filters.
I have a 2015 3.5 eco boost. With 250,000 MILES. The engine has performed great! I just replaced the water pump first time the truck has been touched except for oil, tires, and brakes. Life of the truck averaged 18.8 miles per gallon Pretty happy with the performance
I have a 2.7 15 model. No issues. I also baby it. Hopefully it lasts
@@markholmesdeleted33362015 2.7 here. I never even changed transmission oil until just yesterday at 126,000 miles. I haven’t babied it at all times. I’ve even hauled 2300 in the bed. I’ve only had to change minor things like oxygen sensor, and oil pan.
This is the comment I was looking for I’m gonna buy a 2015 platinum !!!!! Timing chain ⛓️💥 cam phasers and all gaskets is the first order I’d busniess
Please do 2.7 ecoboost also to compare how it’s built to the 3.5 and the difference that be cool 👍🏻
Same
@@suaverp2170 2.7 has cast iron block
Lots to like about the 2.7…
I'll never own one of these again. I had a 2014 with 60k miles and it had coolant leaks on both turbos, a bad crank sensor that left us stranded on the side of the road, a failing starter motor, & the cold start timing chain rattle. A friend of mine had a 2018 Lariat with the 3.5 and 10 speed and it also had cam phaser issues (cold start rattle), and transmission issues. Another still has a 2019 Platinum with the 3.5 and is also having the cold start rattle issue. The 3.5 EB engine makes great power when its running right but has WAY too many problems well before 100k miles.
It all depends on maintenance. I feel overall it’s pretty reliable
@@jkeelsnc I traded my never out of the shop Toyota Tacoma that only had 70,000 miles after 7 years (hint: spent that much time in the shop) on my no issues 2018 F150 2.7 that has 114,000 miles on it. My Dad’s 2019 Toyota Avalon was recalled and unable to repair for so long he got rid of it with only 8,000 miles on it. Not sure about Toyota’s reliability.
My 2014 3.5 turbos leaked, one at 75k and the other at 99k, latter out of warranty. Probably 60k miles I started setting oil change reminder at 50%. I’m still keen on Fords. Tacomas are great and I’d never buy gm or dodge (biased reasons). I put $4k in repairs and maintenance around 100k miles ($3k was unplanned). Other than this, it’s been great. Reading multiple comments of how great the 2.7 is might look at that one.
Had a 2018 raptor and drove it 105,000 miles. Cam phasers failed 3 times. Replaced them twice and traded it in for a ram the 3rd time. Wish ford could have fixed this because I really didn't want the get rid of the truck but I wasn't about to spend 4 grand every time it happens after the warranty was up
In my experience something is always breaking with Ford vehicles.
@@jkeelsnc Toyota don't put transmission cooler on the Tundra Anymore. Transmission won't last .
Don’t feel bad my 2018 eco boost f150 cam phasers went out twice already at 60,000 miles
@@hexhead5732 my 2017 Platinum has had the cam phasers replaced (motor sounded like a diesel on cold start), torque converter replaced and the 10 speed transmission overhauled (transmission would buck and slam into gears) this was done between 30k-50k miles (under factory & extended warranty). I only had to pay the $200 deductible. I have my oil and filter changed every 5k miles. I use Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 5w30 and a Mobil 1 filter, so dirty oil shouldn't be the cause of the cam phasers failing.
I currently have 60k on the truck. I'm hoping it will be more reliable going forward.
2016 - 2020 were the years with a poor cam phaser setup in the 3.5...that was completely addressed and cured in 2021.....
I love my 3.5 Ecoboost engine however the cam phaser failure is disappointing. I'm hoping Ford has this situated with the 2021models
Iam on my 4th EB engine equipped vehicle and just love them!! The power is awsome and very reliable
Just turned 108K on my '17 I have the coolant changed every 50K along with the plugs and do oil at 7500. No issues as of yet. Love the 10spd with it. Jealous of the extra 25hp the new ones have. These are basically the same engines they won Le Mans with a few years back.
The Ford GT is largely the same engine with bigger turbos right?
Probably higher end components like pistons, rods, crank, valves etc.
@@vmon215 .. for many people 100k miles is a lot. I personally drive 7000 miles a year so 100k miles is 14 years for me. Even if I drove 12k miles a year that's almost 9 years. That is a significant amount of time and miles.
@@vmon215 I agree. I have 315,000 miles on my 2009 F150 4.6l 3v, nothing but regular maintenance and it still runs great.
@@johnmccoul6350 I think the days of 300k+ are gone. Keep her running as long as you can! Wishing I would've bought a 4.6 or 5.4 when they were newer. REALLY wish I wouldn't have totaled my ole 4.9 i6.
Great video! I have a newfound appreciation for my engine just from this video alone. Thanks for the awesome content!
The reason for the port injection is to keep the valves clean. The earlier 3.5L EcoBoost only had direct injection. Optimum performance, but without fuel spraying on the valves, they had really bad carbon build up on the intake valves. Common problem with all direct injection engines, not just Fords.
what you mean by earlier ??? just got a 2016 ...is that the one????
@@MrRacso2000tj yeah it is. 2017 is when they added port injection but don't fear... I have a 2014 and Sea Foam it through the intake at least once a year to clean the intake valves. No problems with carbon.
That's why you drill a 1/16" hole in the bottom of the intercooler. Keeps my valves spotless.
have the engine in F150 and Flex; no issues so far at 98K. and 59K miles, what I like most is the large RPM range of torque, My 5.0L F150 is week at lower rpm on torque compared to ecoboost, and ecoboost towing is treat with the torque range. Fuel economy is about equal with my driving habits.
Ford has obviously told you many of the good points about the 3.5 EB. I owned a '19 XLT EB and put about 49k miles on it including two cross country runs towing trailers. It's a pleasure to drive and gets good mileage, overall. What this video does not cover is the numerous recalls, including can phaser programming updates and engine warranty extensions to help calm owners who are hearing reports of premature engine failure. More than one Ford employee told me my plan to hold on to the truck into high mileage might be a risky decision. But anyone buying an F-150 weighing in under 5k lbs to tow loads over 9k lbs needs to take time to adjust to its handling characteristics, particularly if you're moving down from any HD pickup.
But what about this....youtube it >>> "2011 Ford F150 EcoBoost rolls 400k in mileage in 9 years!!"
I just bought a 2015 SHO. Really excited about the setup. The only thing I was told is to run Really high quality OIL and to keep it full to avoid timing chain issues.
Nice presentation. I am considering going with 3.5 ecoboost doing my research so far I like what i am reading and hearing.
Update ended up buying a powerboost in seaside, California.
Sooner than I thought my 2013 truck was going out while on vacation dealer had told me there was only 3 so far in California and one with the kings ranch interior with the platinum model. So I bought it.
Awesome truck and pulling power going on 1900 miles and still learning this truck.
Something happen on way to work, it turn on the turn signsl for me. Is it learning how I get to work???
I have a 2014 V-6 3.5 (46,000 miles) and I love it. I put a oil catch can system on it and it is smooth as butter. If Ford is going to continue selling Ecoboost engines, they must address the need for an oil catch can system. They know about it and say they are working on it, but haven't addressed the need.
I have a a 2017 3.5 eccobost the 7-10k mile oil change is the biggest mistake people can make. With it being a Direct injection engine over time fuel will get past the piston rings and into the oil. It will mess up the viscosity of the oil. It will no longer lubricate properly. It’s part of the reason the eccoboost have cam phaser issues and timing chain slap.
I agree. I bought my 3.5 new and I’ve changed the oil every 5k miles since
Thankfully the Gen 2 version with MPFI has lessened that from happening. The GDI only works under hard acceleration.
@@acdii yes I have the gen 2, can phasers replace at 37k
@@jonathanpesek842 Actually that is not oil related but a design issue. Ford "supposedly" has new parts that corrected it under a TSB. Supposedly, not saying they actually did. You had the famous cold start knock I take it?
@ jonathan pesek- the cam phaser issue isn’t caused by poor oil change habits, they’re just poorly designed. I usually replace a set of phasers on F150 every week and it’s not unusual to have a truck in for the procedure for a second or third time! I just finished a truck that went 17k miles since the previous phaser replacement - less than 12 months! Inside of that engine was immaculate.
I have a 2021 XLT Sport Supercab in Iconic Silver with the 3.5 twin turbo and it is fantastic. 2 thumbs way up. We did the 20" wheels and black out pkg so basically, we built a loaded new hot rod truck. I Love it.
Wish we could get the old 300 in line 6 in turbo. That would be a beast! With today's technology...
What a lot of dont realize is these are not just engines with bolted on turbos, they were built for turbo charging and handling high pressures do your maintenance folks is key and get them on the highway once in a while for a nice long run
went from a 2012 F150 XLT with the Coyote 5.0 to a 2018 Lariat with the 3.5 EB..........love the instant power of the 3.5, but I should have kept my Coyote 5.0 as I am putting the EB back in the shop next Monday, for the 2ND TIME for the damned cam phaser issue, and I don't even have 34K on it yet..........next truck will be a Tundra or Tacoma.
I have a 2015 Platinum 3.5 Eco - still going strong with 107K miles. Great engine & very strong! Previous had the PowerStroke
One great thing about the 3.5 Eco motor on the f150, the water pump is mounted externally. Not so hard to replace and if it fails it doesn't dump anti freeze into the oil. The 3.5 Eco motor used in the transverse / SUV applications has the water pump internally, which is a far inferior system. I suppose when mounted transverse they don't have the room for the water pump mounted externally.
My brother is a mechanic and I have a 15 3.5 eco twin turbo Explorer Sport. He was like when its time to change the water pump you might as well trade it in as that is a complete PIA to do. Also installed a catch can in it to stop the slow oil drip into the engine. It catches about a shot or 2 of oil in there at every oil change that otherwise that would get in the engine and eventually mess things up.
I own a 2016 ecoboost F150 quad 4x4 3.5.This is like a race car engine . I love the power and economy. I put a catch can on my direct injection . 40,000 miles and no problems in five years.I let my Ford dealer change my oil at 5,000 miles. Oil is cheaper than a new motor.Keep my air cleaner clean too. My truck is faster than my 69 GTO was
For me I prefer the Coyote V8 over the EcoBoost V6 anyday of the week. Don't have to worry about turbos going bad and less stuff to go wrong as well.
Idk about that man, the ecoboost is much better than the V8. The V8 has a lot of problems. The turbos last the entire life of the truck. I’ve had both and my ecoboost has always out performed my V8. Plus it was much faster and more fun to drive than the V8.
There’s def more stuff to go wrong with the V8, also that ecoboost makes more power than the V8
@@athensgod2361 But will it outlast the V8 and will it outlast the 5.7L I-Force V8 in the Toyota Tundra as well.
@@athensgod2361 Also if the EcoBoost is so good then why did they make the 5.0L Coyote V8 in the F150 in the first place.
@@CJColvin because they didn’t have the technology at the time to make the ecoboost. A V8 is much more simple. You don’t have to worry about the turbos in the ecoboost either, they are aircraft grade and are water cooled. They can take a lot of torture.
I really enjoyed this info being broken down! Thank you!
Thank you for the feedback!
@@TCcustoms_ As much as i do like the 3.5 liter EcoBoost and not saying that to be sarcastic . I actually built a compound turbo setup on a 2013 F-150 with two turbos mounted flush in the box of the truck . Fun project but labor intensive mounting the oil and air coolers . I do although question pulling heavy loads i.e. travel trailers only because i do understand turbo charging . Getting a 32 foot travel trailer moving from a dead stop is a-lot for a V6 engine until the turbos start to spool . I have seen the horsepower curve on a dyno with my own eyes and also have seen how little boost was made below the 3000 rpm range .
Every car salesman should take notes from you.
When ever I buy a new Ford I will at least get a quote from you.
AllI have to say is "Crystal Clear explanation about the technology behind this engine. You should be Teacher.
Congratulations,
I just bought a 2021 F150 Lariat while I wait for my Bronco order. It has the 3.5 eco boost, always had the 5.0L so far so good. I’m impressed with the power thus far, plus nice to have a bit better gas mileage!
I think you will find the Bronco exactly that, rough ride compared to the Lariat I’m sure. I have the F150 2021 Lariat and I’m very surprised how smooth quiet a ride it is!
Be truthful. Dual injectors are needed to spray fuel onto valve stems and back of the valves to prevent the fatal flaw if direct injection motors. Now your explanation beyond this point applies. Good to see Ford has reacted with this solution.
That’s correct, the carbon build up is intense. It was the easy cheap solution to a major flaw
I absolutely love my 2019 3.5 eco, it tows like a beast. I don’t know why so many of your service techs would choose the 5.0 over it……
Because they work on it and see a lot of potential problem they never see to the coyotes
Because they're idiots. Like the coyotes don't have oil consumption and can phaser problems lol
@@r6master69 2018 and newer 5.0 have the oil consumption problem. Requires getting a whole new engine block to fix it… id buy a 2011-2017 5.0
@@Lee-zi1zb I have a 2011 5.0. It drinks a quart of oil per 1000 miles.
@@bobkohn1809 how many miles?
I have always liked the V8 but after this video makes me consider the V6 Turbo. Thank You Mitchell.
Still get the V8
I was in your shoes 8 years ago and made the switch to the Ecoboost and have absolutely no regrets. Great low end torque, fast, zero issues and good fuel economy both regular driving and towing.
Hello my name is Josh I’m soon getting a new Ford F-150 XLT sport next year with the 3.5 ECOBOOST and max towing package do you guys do mirror wrap with me same color as the truck . But as soon as I get it i take it to you guys for a 2.5” level kit with off road tires/ rim with enough capacity for towing with dual exhaust
Awesome!
You know that leveling your truck effects your towing right? Going to make it squat when you do tow and put that 10% tongue weight on.. headlights are shining in everyone's eyes and slightly reduced braking and turning ability
Two words, BIGGER INTERCOOLER! get one
@@daniel1k793 Even with no leveling kit my lights still shined in everyone's eyes!
@@jeremyh4180 why for towing?
I love my 2021 F150 3.5 EcoBoost. Pulls my trailer no issues and has alot of power. This one's my 4 th truck since 2012 with the 3.5 EcoBoost and I never had problems other than getting speeding tickets.....lol
I thought that the purpose of an intercooler was to cool the air after its been compressed by the turbo.
The cooler it is the higher the density, which allows it to move faster through and pack more of it into the engine
I think you accomplish the same thing by compressing cooled air, instead of cooling compressed air? Given the looks of that intercooler I'd hate to be pushing pressurized air through it.
@@townhall05446 nonsense. When you compress air it gets hotter. How would you cool it before compressing it?
@@mr.monitor. mmhw
@@ryanglover4549 what?
The intercooler cools the air before the turbo compresses it.
Absolutely love my 2011 F-150 Platinum ,went on vacation ,took my truck on the highway and passing a car or too my husband fell in love with my Truck! Couldn’t believe the power it had. ,,,, he drives a 2016 V-8 Mustang, 😊
I have the little v6 eco boost I believe it's a 2.6 L. Love it. A 2016 model and I have gotten 24 mpg driving 62 to 65 mph down interstate. I've got 75000 on her. I sometimes pull a camper and a small horse trailer, not at the same time
You mean 2.7, there a great motor with decent power. Keep injectors clean..
When the time comes please talk about the 2.0 ecoboost that will be in the Maverick. Thanks.
Yes
it’s essentially the focus st motor
What do you want to know? I work on them every day.
@@solarfall2728 how have they improved over the time they have been in production? What are some issues that they have had and what did Ford do to improve it? Assuming with the regular advancements in technology, what might Ford introduce with the Maverick engine that could make it even better? MPG? Any special preventative maintenance that is unique to this engine? Thank you.
@@solarfall2728 what's the most reliable F150 engine?
Second generation Ford twin turbos. No major problems on most engines. Oil change 10K no way. I would have to wait too long to drink that beer after a job well done.
I am on the edge about buying one of these and have heard a lot of bad things about them but seeing these comments encourages me lol.
The only bad years were 2017-2020 due to a subpar part with the cam phaser setup...that has been TOTALLY CORRECTED AS OF 2021 MODELS....all years before and after those 4 were essentially great and many testimonies of 200-400,000 miles on them without issues...just gen maintenance.. the 2.7 and 5.0 are/were rock solid in all years...
@@barrya.6212Nah. My 2011 and 2014 were money pits.
I’ve owned both a 1st gen and 2nd gen 3.5. Good engines overall but they have their own unique quirks.
Like what? I’m
Not a truck person but I just got 2017 f150 xlt sport ecoboost
@@claudegrinnell9602 change the oil every 3,000-5,000mi. The goal is to change it before it turns black. Run 91-93 octane gas. Keep an eye on your coolant level. Coolant leaks are common.
Does Ford consider the 2021s a third generation 3.5l ecoboost? I keep hearing about upgraded turbos compared to the 2017 first model year 3.5ls.
2017 ??? The first 6 cyl Ecoboost was seen in early 2011 !
@@7natcho your right, but the second generation 3.5l with the 10 speed transmission first came out in 2017. I was wondering if the 2021 3.5l is considered the 3rd generation by Ford because they seemed to have made so many changes since 2017.
I love the 6"bds lift I got on my 14.
3.5l is a torque monster but one of the weak leaks is the factory exhaust manifolds and gasket.
I recommend the cr performance full bore polished manifolds with stainless gaskets.
ford always have had terrible manifolds and gaskets, up here in the rust belt especially with salt on the roads I drove fords to plow snow and I have seen countless ford trucks driving around with manifold leaks, meanwhile the cheverolet trucks driving around are silent
My 2020 Escape has the 4 banger 2.5 liter Ecoboost, feels like a V8 and gets great mileage..Did not know about the variable DOC geometry and the duel direct and port FI tech, I guess this is where the sport , eco and regular settings all come from..Liquid cooled turbos though..Ford is rocking it! This is FORD COUNTRY on a cool night you can here GMs/Chevies rust..
You forgot to mention the main reason for the port injectors. They help to eliminate carbon build-up on the valve stem and seats.
That was my concern. I was waiting for him to mention that. Do I need to do the carbon cleaning maintenance or does the port injectors effective enough to do the job?
@@erikuber9625 if you have a newer head with both the port & direct you should be ok. If it's just direct then you should clean them
My 2012 Lincoln MKS ecoboost is still going strong with 120k on the clock and its tuned to 450 hp no problems!
Keep an eye on your coolant/oil, that one has the internal water pump that can leak coolant into the oil. Those are nice cars though, I've rented them and loved the mix of luxury and performance. I bet it's fun at 450!
I love the 3.5 in my fx4. Love having the turbos.Only issue is I think my timing chain is starting to go. :(
Try some Lucas stabilizer, if it helps it's just the tensioner not the chain itself and you can limp it for quite a while with lucas. If not you'll need to get it looked at. Use the synthetic stabilizer cause the HD will screw with your VVT system.
Love mine too.
What year?
@@buster2106 2013
I have 2016 supercrew lifted 4x4. ¹30000 miles. I routinely will weigh 25,000lbs across the scales at the local gravel pit. No problems whatsoever. Tow haul mode has no turbo lag. Specially empty on the interstate. Checked it at 80,000 miles 0-60 5.7 seconds. It sometimes will break rear tires lose at 50 if you really want to get after it.
Tow haul mode is great. I used it a lot this summer hauling trailers when I moved my family 300 miles. I like how it upshifts and downshifts to make the best used of the gear ratios. Slowing down to stop etc. it downshifts to provide engine braking. Works great.
Maybe it's the "old skool" side of me as well, I don't like going over 3K on my LOF. 10K sounds crazy to me.
3k is when they had poor efficient engines and the oil was basic. 5k miles change with todays synthetic is perfectly fine.
I daily drive a 2003 Mini Cooper S (supercharged engine) that I’m the original owner. It specifies full synthetic oil and that oil counter in the dash display counts down from 15k miles until the next oil change. I’ve run the full 15k miles a couple of times but generally stick to 10k because it’s easier to track. My car now has over 160k miles and when I recently replaced the valve cover gasket, the valve train was perfectly clean - looks as good as a 30k mile engine.
@@ghostwrench2292 Unless your engine is a GDI it's not really a fair comparison. The 1st generation EB engines, like others that are purely GDI suffered because the oil becomes quickly contaminated with fuel. They also tend to see high amounts of carbon build up on the intake valves because there is no fuel to wash the valves.
I followed Ford's original 10K LOF interval...a long time ago, and they ended up replacing the cam phasers, guides, etc... an expensive repair at Ford's cost, not mine. I've backed down to 5K and 70,000 miles later no issues and 150K on the motor now. To be fair they've completely redesigned the fuel system by adding multi port injection along with the GDI. The MPI is for normal, lower rpm operation and the GDI is for higher rpm use with better efficiency and power.
Engine and oil technology is different. I personally dont run oil for 10k but 3k is wasting good oil. My Mustang is the exception since it runs on ethanol and routinely sees high temps and 7500rpm.
Keep doing it at 3k and don't listen to any of those clowns who tell you otherwise. If you have an older, reliable motor with port fuel injection, 5k is fine. But the newer motors with turbo's, cam phasers and direct injection, run very dirty. 5k and it looks like it came out of a diesel.
Also change your trans fluid more often than the manual says to. Don't flush it. A drain and refill is all you need.
i have a 3.5 ecoboost and still strong&i loved it.
I have to correct you. In the past ,having to allow the engine to cool down before turning off was due to oil coking. This happened because you shut the engine off and oil is no longer flowing thru the turbo sitting in the hot turbo center section.
That is why Chrysler put water cooled turbo center section on it's 2.2L and 2.5L turbo's starting back in 1986. This is NOT a new concept.
Great video, you were huge in educating me in my 2021 Ford F-150 . Thanks
280,000 on my 5.0 and still running like the day I bought it new 😁👍
My 5.0 will get there.....only 49k on it so far.
@@rds990 Yours isn't even broken in yet LOL, I usually put around 35,000 miles a year on a vehicle, I now have 350,000 miles on my truck, still running strong! 😁👍
Just recently bought a used low mileage. 2022 F150 The other morning, I smoked a power stroke diesel on the way to work I was impressed.
Great video! Are you gonna do a video like this on the F-150 5.0L Coyote? Thanks for all you do, by the way!
If this video gets enough love, then yes we might do the same for 5.0L v8
@@TCcustoms_ yes, we need a video on the 5.0L Coyote, I'm trying to decide between 3.5 and 5.0.
@@TCcustoms_
Second question, Mitchell….
How can I give this video a thousand “likes”?
Asking for fellow Coyote lovers everywhere….
@@TCcustoms_ I own a 2017 Ford F150 with a 5.0 V8 here in Canada please do a review video on that engine as well. My truck has been pretty reliable so far .
Another question. How does Ford vary the turbo output? When you accelerate hard there is positive pressure in the intake manifold. When you are cruising at highway speed there is a vacuum in the intake manifold. Admittedly at cruising speed the engine is only turning about 1800 RPM but the turbos should still be compressing the incoming air slightly.
They have electronic wastegates
I have a '19 King Ranch with the Fx4 and towing package.
Originally was on the market for a V8, for similar reasons as other people's.
Did more research and test-drove an Ecoboost, loved it.
First thing I bought was an Oil Carch Can.
Amazing motor.
Holy crap what a perfect !informative ! video on the 3.5 ecoboost . Just what I was looking for. Thank you 😎!!!!!
One of the big reasons Ford went to a dual fuel injection system is because of carbon build up. That was a product of only using direct injection (DI as it is known), where the cylinder walls and the valves start to get carbon build up, which is bad for the engine and performance. I think some people use some kind of "catch can" on the first gen engines to reduce this problem. Ford addressed that problem by adding port fuel injection. I am assuming this dual injection setup fixed the carbon problem.
Yup, most of it was due to the EGR recirculating exhaust and coking up the valves. Take apart any port injection motor and the intake runner after the injector and the back of the valve will be real clean.
And yet, no one to date has visual proof of it with the 3.5 Ecoboost because Ford has a patented timing system that back flows fuel behind the valves to prevent it. All the pictures out there of supposed Ecoboost intakes are actually Audi engines. The smaller EB 4 cylinders do occasionally carbon up, but the 3.5 is not one of them. IOW this is a myth.
@@jkeelsnc and Toyota copied what ford did with the dual injection.there was no “gravy train” as you called it, ford once again was the forefront of new technology 12 yrs ago
@@jkeelsnc it was proven technology, ford had yrs of R&D before they put it into production.
Toyota dumped their v8 and copied fords TT and the dual injection, it’s very obvious,, to sensible folks anyway
is it true that you dont have to change the transmission, diffs and gearbox oil until 240,000km? Thats what the manual says seems like a lot of km for oil.
"You can have eco and you can have boost but you can't have both"- TFL
This! You are so correct!
"OR" the boost.
Actually it combust.
You're a very good speaker. Thanks for the informative video!
I got a 2012 with 130k miles on it and the turbos are just starting to sound like i may be needing to rebuild them… might as well upgrade the impeller wheel, exhaust and tune while im at it 🤷🏽♂️
You'll will love the tune! I wish I tune mine when I bought it. 2014 with 45k on it. Been tuned the past 5k miles. It just drives better tuned. 5 star 87 octane street/tow tune on a SCT tuner. Tows the 8500lb trailer no problem at high elevation.
Loved it people need to know, especially women need to know what turbocharged engines do! So glad the old school Racing technology has finally made it way into every day cars and trucks! Just bought my wife a 2.0 turbo. It was A Ford Corporate car. So its Still considered her first owner car .Its a 2019 Fusion SLE All wheel drive. It's like a Mustang with 2 extra doors for the kids lol . Now I don't have to find my Mustang Disappearing as much lol . Thank you
Dad just picked up a 2021 3.5. Awesome truck as long as the motor holds up. I told him to go with the ecoboost because the ecoboost has been getting updates with each generation. The 2018+ 5.0 has had many issues and they are not built as good. 2021 5.0 just switched to cylinder deactivation and a rubber belt driven oil pump. Not sure how well that is going to go after watching GM fail but Ford is usually a little better about testing. If this ecoboost holds up then I m sold on it. I was getting 24 mpg the other day with the cruise set on 70. Crazy to think in a crew cab 6.5' bed 4x4.
What about the timing chain, has that improved?
got a 23' 3.5 and its impressive. Traded my 22' 5.7 Bighorn for the ford 3.5 XLT. 3.5 beats the hemi in everyway. Also think the 10 speed helps a lot in the ford. But Ram does have the Hurrican on the way for 25'
@@dankruger2890 I’m very curious to see how that engine performs. The inline 6 making that much power is going to be crazy. Hopefully it will be good for Ram. The hemi was getting long in the tooth with no updates in years. The truck in the video is at 107k miles now. Gear shifter was replaced under warranty and had a few recalls but no major issues yet. My dads truck is now at 107k miles. Had the shifter replaced under warranty and a few recalls done but that’s it. All of that is really just part of having a first year of a new body style. He still loves the truck