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Lenovo Legion Pro 7i (2023) Review - Not So Pro, But...
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- Опубликовано: 6 авг 2024
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Lenovo Legion Pro 7i (2023) Review Timestamps:
0:00 “Pro”?
0:23 Design & Build Quality
0:52 Size & Weight
1:17 Laptop Specs
1:39 Camera & Microphones
1:53 Keyboard, RGB Lighting & Touchpad
2:43 Ports & Type-C Charge Problem
4:02 Getting Inside & Internals
4:30 Wi-Fi & SSD Speed
4:44 Upgrade Options
5:06 Memory Overclocking
5:21 Speakers & Latencymon
5:39 Battery Saving Features
6:23 Battery Life
6:57 Cooling Design & Thermal Modes
8:20 Temperatures / Clock Speed / TDP
9:41 Game Performance in Different Modes
10:00 Cinebench CPU Performance (On & Off Battery)
11:00 Keyboard Temperatures
11:31 Fan Noise
12:19 Screen Options
12:40 MUX Switch & Advanced Optimus
12:59 Screen (Brightness/Gamut)
13:17 Screen Response Time & Latency
14:05 Screen Backlight Bleed
14:11 3 Game Comparison (1440p & 1080p)
16:24 3DMark & Content Creation
17:18 BIOS
17:32 CPU Overclocking Problem
17:45 Linux Support
18:08 Pricing, Availability & Laptop Deals
19:11 2022 Legion 7i vs 2023 Legion Pro 7i Differences
20:09 Less Features = Better Price
20:58 How Much Faster is RTX 4080 vs 3080 Ti Last Year?
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0:27 Apparently the interior is actually metal, but it didn't feel that way to me.
5:06 I meant to say DDR5-6000, not 5600!
what is your pick so far for 18 inch laptop? asus or razer?
@@plantpower3048 razor obviously
Razor
It has 2 usb-c ports, which is fairly enough.
This is worse but when you're reviewing something.. I still make it a habit to watch.. Thanks for narrowing the "What I should buy?" line up.. Still Waiting for the GE Raider Review.. :)
I just ordered this with 4080. I watched a ton of your videos. It's crazy, I feel like every laptop has something missing that the other picks up. But it seems, despite the things that were removed, is that this one is highly regarded. I also used your gaming laptop deals to get it for 2k at BH Photo! Which was far less than other places like best buy, which honestly surprised me. Thanks for all the content. My biggest focus is getting a laptop that can run games at medium settings and with quiet fans. I play downstairs on the couch while my partner watches tv, so having a quiet laptop that can still game is hugely, hugely, HUGELY important to me. Here's to hoping to sounds good.
What is this one missing?
Hi , how is the sound after 1 year of using ?
I just ordered this laptop with the RTX 4080, same laptop from B+H for $2k. Been musing about a laptop for around a year to travel game with while traveling away from home. It can get just mind numbing looking at so many laptops that are nice in some areas and disappointing in others. But I ordered this yesterday and will get it on Monday. I’ll just be adding the other SSD myself when I get it.
I’m also debating whether to order it from HB or no. Their return policy is quite bad regarding the laptops. And I want it shipped in the EU. Are you from US guys?
@@ardentdfender4116 how are you liking it? I am looking to get the same one from B+H for 2k but want to make sure its worth it.
I'm in the market for a new gaming laptop, and i gotta say this is the MOST FRUSTRATING thing ever! 😖 Every laptop I've seen is sacrificing one thing or another 😭
Wait for a few more months man, asus with the QC issues, lenovo with the downgrades, msi being outrageously expensive and arse value, this market is fucked up rn, wait for a few months or so
The main culprit is Nvidia as always. Those ridiculous GPU prices are making laptop manufacturers either cut corners or increase the price. Big shame too, since gaming laptops were actually becoming viable compared to a desktop.
Just like women 😂😂😂 hard to find all-in-1, smart+fit+nice tits+nice arse+rich+good chef etc 🤣🤣🤣
@MegaBased butcher Chad 🇮🇱⃠ meanwhile me omw to enjoy based 3060 5800 legion 5 2021 model(140w flashed) until 2026/27
@@pranavdupati9164 I've got a similar setup, how did you flash the higher wattage?
Your reviews are so in-depth. I didn’t know the Lenovo software was so feature rich, it’s actually a huge selling point that would get little mention elsewhere.
Lenovo Vantage is one of the better laptop control center softwares out there. Acer's are one of, if not, the worst.
@@djdelarosa25
Anything is better than the MSI support 😂😂.
Those guys even let bots wins theirs events in "msi rewards".
This event: "hop to it" me and some friends participate just for fun.
But most funny it was see the winners 😂(you can access the page even now and see).
But their support is like:
Client: my pc lost a the "A" key.
Sup: okay, can you send the pc for checking?
Client: okay, sure.
4 months after:
Client: where is my pc.
Sup: What pc?
😶.
Thanks testing the HDMI for true 2.1 support! I hope this can be done in all future reviews as I often hook up to my LG C2 and my L7 2021 only does 8bit since it has pseudo hdmi 2.1.
No worries! I've had it in all my reviews for the last 12 months and will continue into the future.
Great and thorough review here man and I love all the timestamps thanks for that. I'm mainly interested in this for motion design/3D and also video/photo work actually and even though it's still $3600 CAD for the 4080 i9 I feel it's too much for any laptop these days. Any thoughts on this for that type of work? I've considered Dell G15 also with i9 12 gen but with 3070Ti as it's just under $2000. Would you say that price jump is worth it or should I save some money and go for the Dell? Thinking also future proof probably 5 year max
Remember to always enable RGB as Jarrod's super secret tip.
RGB gives fps boost
I appreciate your reviews and your opinions are spot on. I appreciate honesty, especially with such expensive decisions to make.
Please be aware, the mini LED option mentioned in the review does not seem to exist. You can only get this laptop with an IPS panel, which is major bummer.
Honestly I bought this one with the 4090 (for 16 vram) as my first gaming laptop, and first introduction to pc gaming. I am used to console quality, so all the downgrades aren’t much of a impact for me.
The only thing I think I would want, from the last year’s model, are the vents they removed. It all sounds nitpicky to me, or maybe I’m part of the problem with my purchase, but again i am coming from consoles. anything is an upgrade for me. Lol
I'm glad i got the last year 7i and its not that far behind. All i need now is a hack to get frame generation to work on 30 series laptops
The design looks much less premium and sleek compared to last year, but the price is now actually very compelling compared to other brands. I suppose Lenovo focuses on making it the fastest bang for buck, that 80W CPU & 175W GPU under full load is very impressive for a 16" form factor
I hope the Legion 9 brings back the premium design and features! 😬
Agree. I had both for about a month; 10-40% faster at same or lower price. 3-5 degree cooler. Better screen. I'll take all that in exchange for loss of an all metal chasis, fingerprint, and a couple ports. Its a mustang, not a bmw. Nicities are gone but the internals are amazing. Its just a branding mistake to call it pro.
Aren't we jumping the gun haven't seen any models release yet. Was stating 4,000 + I see closer to release dates the laptops are falling back to mid to high 2,000+. I am hoping the market drops down to a normal price. Otherwise I will be going on vacation and wait till next years models.
@@Theckonestrohthis one is high 2000s with sales always being around its mid 2000s (USD). Seems pretty fair in this day to me
@@MischieviousJirachiyup just picked one up with a 4080 and top specs available for everything else for around 2300-2400. I’m in love so far…
I think this is one of the better priced 2023 laptops with the high end 4000 series GPUs. FYI I've been able to get up to 30K in Cinebench on the Blade 18 with CPU overclocking and boost mode turned on (though this was not in a sustained test).
i love that they added the costum fan control, however i really hope that this will be added on older models like the 2022 ones (got 7i 2022 a few months ago :/ )
I'm not sure if they will or not. It hasn't been confirmed.
Love your videos mate; keep up with great job!
Thanks again for another great review. I would like your impression on what it's like to game on a machine over sometime that is drawing 175 watts. Did you have to turn up the the ac? Was the room uncomfortable after a while. While I appreciate the increases in performance, I do not appreciate the penalties for them.
Glad to hear there was no thermal throttling in stress tests
CPU overclock option worked for me. It bumped the boost clocks 100 MHz. Not exactly groundbreaking 😂. That said, you CAN manually tune the clocks - it's basically a simplified XTU interface, but not really worth doing.
@JarrodsTech I appreciate your videos man, you review each device so thoroughly so I know which one will suit my wants/needs.
I just ordered a Legion Pro 7i and can’t wait for it to arrive!
This will be my 3rd gaming laptop. The decision in the laptops I’ve purchased have all been helped by you thanks to your reviews.
Keep up the good work bro!
Hi bro did you test the laptop ? Can tell an overall simple review . Thanks
What’s your lineup looking like?
With your guidance, I decided to buy this laptop. Moreover, I bought it from the mentioned website, and it was at a very affordable price. I see this model as a model whose design has been reduced in order to have high hardware. I don't regret to buy at all. Thanks for your effort...
How do you like it so far? Does it get hot and frames drop after a few hours of gaming? Want to get a gaming laptop but the Alienware M17 I had in the past would get really hot in like an hour and frames would drop considerably.
@@juicyjey1334 I got this model with 4090 and it runs really well. That being said, CPU temps are on the high side, but you should be able to run at a combined 230 W between CPU and GPU without thermal throttling. My only regret is that I didn't get the AMD model, because the CPU efficiency would be so nice. Some games like BF 2042 I need to put the CPU wattage up to 135 W just to get a playable experience, leaving little power left for the GPU.
But no, temperatures stay constant and the laptop doesn't lose performance no matter how long you game for. Just make sure to keep the GPU + CPU wattage at 230 W or less or your battery will drain to 0% even while plugged in.
Is it very good for gaming?
@@Juanparomaruk Yes, it's arguably the best gaming laptop money can buy. I have it and am very happy with it. My only complaint is that the temperatures aren't that great, probably because of the vapor chamber.
I just bought one of these and its fantastic. Its a 4090 model for 2799 at Microcenter (it had a 500 discount). Any other 4090 laptop from MSI or Asus was $700 more. The only thing I was worried about was the display being only IPS rather than mini led, but its the best IPS display I've ever seen. No backlight bleed, no IPS glow, 240 htrz, near 500 nits, and it looks spectacular. Color gambit may be a bit low so for photo editing maybe not so good, but for gaming its just fine. I'm happy to trade the features Lenovo removed to have such a well priced laptop.
100% agreed.
Got the same one at microcenter several months ago and it's amazing. no complaints. still holding up very well.
they have it at B&H currently priced at $2500, and the 4080 at $2000. Should i hop on this deal and just get it? Been holding back because of all the bad reviews pertaining to the battery life@@CrewFroebel
Hi Jarrod!
It would be awesome to see a comparison of the g strix series vs scar strix series
I think many people would like how these two compares performance wise and other features as well.
Can’t thank you enough for your content!!
They obviously took a step backwards in terms of build quality and material usage, but otherwise it looks like an excellent laptop. Too bad the prices are still ridiculously high this year. I envy those who can afford these machines.
What's an acceptable price for this setup that's not free from your perspective?
This generation is still cheaper than the last generation, though.
@@radlink14 I would be happy with the current US prices, to be honest. However, where I live (Hungary), laptops cost more than 1.5x the USD price. Add to this the average wage here is only a fraction of that in the US and the laptops become all but unreachable.
@@gabor-toth in Australia pricea are up to 6x the price
nvidia cards are expensive af nowadays....
Woah is anyone else noticing that Cinebench score drop-off in balance and quiet power modes?? That is a big decrease. Even the 5i is scoring much higher in these modes. This has HUGE drawbacks because if you plan on using the 7i without the AC brick and on USB C, which locks you into balance or quiet power modes, you're going to be getting awful performance from the CPU. I can't believe no one else has pointed this out.
Hi Jarrod, thank you for your hard work! Are you going to review new Gigabyte Aorus 15, 17, 15X, 17X (2023) series?
I'm not sure how many Aorus I will review, but I received a 17X today.
after seeing this review, now i'am hyped for Lenovo Legion Pro 5i 4060 and 4070 since that custom max setting mode might give these two cards an edge over other PCs with the same cards
Hey Jarrod, are you going to review the new Lenovo LOQ series? Also, could you PLEASE do a video on the pros & cons of importing laptops over $1000 from the US? I'm always worried I'll be hit with import duties I can't afford after I've hit " Buy'. Thanks, you're awesome.
Nice review! I decided to buy this laptop after watching your video but i am looking for a version with 1000 nit you Mentioned at 12:38. Do you know the region where i can find one?
Will you be making a video on the Framework 16 when it releases or when they send one to you? It has a replaceable dGPU and so much more expansion than the 13, and I would love to see you test it.
I will be. It looks very interesting!
Hi Jarrod, good review. Can you try reviewing 16 inch "Framework" laptop when it is available? That would be cool :).
I'm waiting AMD Zen 4 Framework laptop, but the first batch has been sold out, pre order waiting timeline is allready in the end of the year. You don't see AMD ultrabook with 64GB RAM, like never.
Yeah I will, been meaning to reach out to them, if they can't lend me one I'll buy it and import it or whatever.
Its interesting to see what’s new. I have last years legion slim 7i which is my first gaming pc. Needed something portable since I don’t have enough space for a desktop where I’m living right now.
Thanks for the videos! Would it be possible to get a video on the flow x16 with the xg mobile? I wonder how it compares to an e-gpu now that usb 4v2/Thunderbolt 5 increases bandwidth by a whole lot.
The model you tested is available in the US from MicroCenter for $2649 on sale, which is a fair price considering the 32 GB of RAM and 2 TB of storage. This laptop should have been called the Legion 5 Pro+ or something similar, with the 7 moniker reserved for the flagship line. Though as has been rumored, this leaves room for a Legion 9, which would have all the content that was cut here. We'll just have to wait and see.
yeah, the laptop itself doesn't seem to be a bad deal given the specs and performance. Quality and feature-wise though, it's definitely closer to the 5 pro than the 7.
It's also available from B & H photo for the same price in the US.
@@drober8588The B&H config only has 1 TB of storage and Windows 11 Home. The MC model has 2 TB and W11 Pro.
Then what's the regular leg 7 will be like?
Considering the new body has design elements from Legion Slim 7 Gen 7, it's probably that upcoming Slim series is the highest Pro standard. Slim 7 really was the best looking and highly loved by many reviewers, as it was quiet and cool to touch and 1000€ cheaper.
Do anyone have clear info or statement of Lenovo about replacement laptop series? Seem this year Legion 7 Pro is equally to Legion 5 Pro last year.
Thanks as always for the great video, maybe I missed it, but could you include native resolution benchmarks from games? I think most people will run the Legion laptops at 2560x1600 native res, rather than 1440p or 1080p. I know it will be difficult or impossible to compare the scores with these benchmarks, but I would still like to know, what the differences might be between the Legion systems (maybe too much added work?).
We used to do this in dedicated game test videos where we would test 15 games at all setting presets native resolutions, but decided to cancel those this year as they were not worth the time. There's only so much we can do, so outside of showing all setting levels in SOTTR at 9:41 we probably won't do this. There are too many different resolutions these days with the introduction of 16:10, so we will stick to 1080p and 1440p as we have data for the purposes of comparing. That said, we recently started collecting data for 4K too, which will be included in future videos. The goal isn't to show you what to expect at the resolution you can play at, but to compare it with other levels, and honestly 2560x1400 is close enough to 2560x1600 anyway.
Which one has better CPU and GPU temps during gaming? Scar 18 or this one? Or which one do you think is a better choice?
Thank you for the Linux test. If even the 22.10 mostly works, i'm sure the 23.04 can only get better.
As always, an absolutely thorough and dope review.
Jarrod, would the Gan charger work with last year's Legion 7i? I want to take it to school and make my load as light as possible but still get the amazing performance you can get with a charger.
Considering the price, I'm not upset about the removed features even with the rear lighting icons since I do have good memory. I have a couple questions. One, doesn't the AI in this thing actually do something now like focus system resources on a game, disable the trackpad and ensure online games get prioirity in network bandwitdht? And two, is there a shortcut to max out the fans or do you have to go to Vantage every single time you want to do that?
If the answer to my first question is yes, I'm really gonna try to get this one. I might even go for the shitty 4070 since I'm upgrading from a 1060. With the performance gain from last gen's hardware, I'm amazed that this year's Legion 7 are cheaper than last year's. If removing features means it won't cost half your body, that sounds pretty good to me. The experience didn't get any worse anyway
No shortcut that I can find, but I've never felt the need to max the fans, I actually keep it in balanced 90% of the time.
@@grumblez a shame there's not an option for that. Thanks
How much bad are 4070's heatsinks for this laptop
Jarrod! Can you also add whether the fans can be removed without taking out the heatsink or not in the upcoming reviews?
It is very important for the people that are living in the hot areas because they have to clean the heatsink often!
Seconding this - which Legion models have had removal fans vs not out of curiousity?
@@zz6358 I think all generations of Legion 7 need heatsink removal to remove the fans. This is a nightmare for me. This always limits me from turning on the performance mode.
don't buy a high performance gaming laptop when you live in a hot country buy something like a 3060 or maybe the 3070 with the r9 or r7 cpus they are always the coolest in premium laptops and they'll hit 120/144/165 fps in like every single game wich uses the max refresh rate of their screens with no lose smooth gaming experience
Not sure how to test that unless I try to take it apart? I definitely do not plan on removing coolers and repasting borrowed samples that get sent onto other people to test. I suppose if the fan only can be removed I shouldn't need to do that. Companies like Lenovo provide a LOT of detailed info on their site, so you can easily see if they allow it by checking there, but unfortunately most companies don't copy them.
@@JarrodsTech You don't need to remove the heatsink. If you can remove the fans without touching the heatsink, you can include that info in your reviews too!! That will be very awesome! No one covers this info!
Jarrod, I cannot thank you enough for your thorough laptop reviews as I rely heavily on them when making my purchasing decisions. In your honest opinion, would you take a MECH 16-17 GP2 or a Legion Pro 7i?
Hi Jarrod's, I've been following your channel for a long time, I love your videos and all the information you provide, I sit down to listen to them and it entertains me a lot because I learn a lot of things, I'm from Colombia but now I live in Australia, I would love to know if there is a store where I can go and ask you for an autograph! :)
I'm hoping they come out with a slim 7 with the 7940hs + a low wattage 4060. 6lbs is just too much for a laptop for me and this doesn't look as nice as last gen (and I'm really only interested in the lower wattage AMD HS chips anyways).
Lenovo revealed their 2023 legion slim lineup a few days ago
Slim 7 Zen 4 + 4060 would be my dream come true, but it will be out most likely September or even later (considering all the Zen 4 news from different laptop brands).
I'll say, since AMD can repackage the desktop R9 7950X into a R9 7945HX , getting the desktop R7 7800X3D into a gaming laptop is match made in heaven.
@@ever45 Did you notice they used the previous years design for the slim series? Lmao
I'm sure they will do that, and pull some boneheaded moves and gimp it as usual. Probably things like no miniLED screen option, no fingerprint reader, worse ports than last year, plastic touchpad, etc. They will find ways!
the glass trackpad is something I would like to see as an option. as I have seen many plastic trakpads wear out
How many of those were gaming laptops though? I feel like the vast majority of us are using a mouse even when we're on the go.
@@heroofharo my friend with a gaming laptop (dell g5, gtx 1060) has a very worn out track-pad. part of the reason I bought my 2021 legion 7i was for the glass trackpad
Would you recommend this over last years helios 300 for the current pricing and performance?
great video!!
can you make a tutorial about how to overclock a laptop cpu ?
H serie cpu is unclock ,right
or undervolt tutorial on new 13gen cpu
Jarrod what do you think of those framework laptops? Is that actually a viable thing?
The Framework Laptop 16 looks like the real deal, as they've already been able to prove themselves over 3 years.
I'm interested in taking a look at them!
I think last year's Legion 7 chassis is better than the new one except lid. It's also bad that they removed the lighting on the ports on the back, which I can't understand. I really like those lights.
Battery saving, easy to understand
@@ayaan9646 Nah, Legion users buying this device for power, not longer battery hours. Also I don't think that those type of lightnings affects the battery too much. Most of the users are ready to sacrife about 30 minutes battery life for port lightnings. I saw too many comments like that.
Ur not alone. It also shouldn't cost more than the scar16/18/alianware m16
@@ayaan9646 You mean you cannot turn off the lights if you are in full blown save the planet's battery life? What the?
Totally agree the 2022 chassis is so much better, i have the 2021 model with Corsair RGB software that is well decent
Very happy with mine, got this few days ago and it's been so good, massive upgrade from the Asus TUF FX505 with GTX 1060 6gb lol and only paid around 1600€ after some tax sales.
hows your legion pro 7i treating you? still recommend it to someone looking to buy?
Is it very good for gaming?
@@Juanparomaruk still perfect, no issues 👍🏻
First thanks for your videos, between 5pro and 7pro legion(both2023), is it worth it, in terms price?
Don’t care about RGB and fingerprint scanner. The only things I really miss from last year’s model are the brushed aluminium chassis and the glass trackpad.
Yeah the brushed finished looked wya nicer! Plus was easire to open without the chunky side plastic things.
Anyone's got any idea why 1% lows for 4000 series cards is so low?
At first I thought it was just because of the bad memory bus for 4060 and 4070 but 4080 seems to have the same problem?
I just wonder if it is something that could be fixed in the future if I end up going for a next gen laptop ( even if I doubt, cauz prices here in Europe are crazy high )
I think the 1 percent lows for the scar 18 are actually where they should be. For the rest idk.
I'd like to know too! The Razer Blade 16 has really bad 1% lows + a lot of reports of stuttering, particularly for the latest AAA titles.
thank you so much for this
Hi. Thanks for your video! You mentioned the 5i pro has fan noise when just sitting there idle. Does this have the same problem?
framework laptop review please Jarrod.
They should have removed the RGB keys and lightbar as well if they are on a cost cutting mission.
i bought my lenovo legion 7 2022 model 2 months ago, LOl
full amd and radeon!
dont regret it, amazingg machinee
Hy jarrrod, I have just bought a16 advantage edition based on your reveiw but battery life is around 5 hours what should I di
I nabbed the 13900HX/4080 version for $1899 on Saturday. First Black Friday weekend deal I feel was a true deal for a change.
What country bro, I paid 3k euros...
@@aron2922well it's a country that uses dollars and I doubt it's Australia
Most of the removed features are gimmicks and all except the 2.5Gb ethernet are not performance related. And what's with the orientation of ethernet jack being wrong? Bottom row of any rack mount switch have "wrong" orientation of ethernet jack. For those of us who couldn't care less about RGB everywhere, this laptop is a good candidate.
Hey Jarrod, which laptop would you take between this one and the Strix G16 (2024) with i9 14th gen and RTX4080?
I could accept all the other features dropped, but the keyboard deck being plastic is seriously petty on their part. I almost pulled the trigger on this a few months ago. Glad I didn’t.
I purchased this about two weeks ago and am in love! The downsides you presented don’t bother me at all. I don’t use the touch pad, and I’m near 50…so, I don’t need 14000 leds to prove my gaming prowess. Thanks for the great review.
hi, How about the temperatures playing at 1440p? Is there a lot of sound, even using ordinary headphones?
Great video! I was just wondering will you also review the 2023 Asus zepharus m16 later on?
Yes! I plan to, not sure when I'll get it though.
@JarrodsTech You need to enable "Legion Optimizaion" in the bios to allow CPU Overclocking in the Lenovo Vantage Software.
Taking away the rear lit port indicators is a travesty 😢
Can't flex on people walking by 🥲
So lame they did that
I did well choosing the 2021 Legion 5 Pro, even more after what I see with 3070 vs 4070.
Same, I love my 3080
@@sergeantkiller9 im loving my 3060 Legion5 :)
3070 ti all day baby
@@resolutesatyr price/performance go brrrrr
*I love my UHD 730 :_)*
Would you prefer this over Strix G16 2023 i9, 4060?
I've noticed that the battery drains when I use the performance mode for gaming on this laptop. Of course, it is connected to the original 330w charger. I'm wondering if you've experienced the same issue because I think there is an issue with my device.
Seeing that this laptop can do 82W on CPU and 175W on GPU in combined workload without thermal throttling (which is just bonkers), i really think that Nvidia can now increase the GPU power limit to 200W especially for the RTX XX90 as there is no real benefit going from XX80 to XX90 with the same power limit and the fact that CPU doesn't need 82W while gaming without needing a higher watt charger.
Sure Nvidia can now increase the power limit, but instead they'll do it next year calling it 4090 Ti and charging a few hundreds $$ more. I wish OC was still a thing like in the old days, so people could just increase power and clocks themselves.
While the build quality is slightly diminished compared to last year, when it comes to performance there isn't a better bang for your buck this year than the Legion. To be honest I'd never use the fingerprint scanner and I almost never use a trackpad anyway so those changes don't really bother me. Additionally it seems like the only laptop this year so far without widespread quality control issues. For these reasons I decided to go with it, and I'm very happy with my decision.
Been using mine for a few weeks now, love it and agree with your points so far.
Still holding out hope for a Legion 9! 😬
Not yet.
@@cameronbosch1213 when will that come?
Having had both, I very much disagree about the build quality diminishing. Quality of life/nice to have features? Sure, but build quality? This thing flat out feels nicer and sturdier. The gen 7 did look more sleek though.
Great video, will you review the new 2023 asus tuf a15 with rtx 4060 laptop gpu?
Planning on it, I don't have one yet though and not sure when I'll get one.
Lenovo Legion has added the function what automatically changes the screen refresh rate when unplugged/plugged to a charger.
Glad I didn't wait for this year's model. My legion 7i Gen 7 from last year is amazing
im looking for a refurbished Legion 7i from 2022. It still sounds like the best (especially bang for your buck)
Hey im looking for a smooth laptop for purely ROBLOX(no im not a teen or kid) what's a perfect overkill one for "itASUS TUF Dash F15 (2022) Gaming Laptop, 15.6” 144Hz FHD IPS-Type Display, Intel Core i5-12450H, GeForce RTX 3050, 16GB DDR5, 512GB PCIe SSD, Thunderbolt 4, Wi-Fi 6, Windows 11 Home, TUF517ZC-DS51-CA" is what im currently looking at getting
@@jays2825 budget? I'd say look at getting legion 7i Gen 7 or 5 pro
Lenovo removed some nice to have features like fingerprint sensor,2.5 gigabit eathernet port,removed lighting for icons for rear ports etc. Lenovo should have increased its build quality,given oled display option with high refresh rate.This year legion pro 7i laptop is really fast in performance compared to scar 18 which has i9 13950hx it performs really well.
Please tell me? why you do not have the maximum frequencies on the processor during the temperature test? because they should be around 5 Giggertz? It turns out that he will not have 80 degrees in Hades if he comes out at full capacity ????
I just return it because RGB light bar dead when it out of box. Do you think I should reorder it again? I worry about the quality of it is not good for long time using.
just buy last years laptops on sale is what i am getting so far from your reviews this year. way better price performance.
Time to get a Framework laptop ma man Jarrod. Especially now that they comes with AMD and have a UPGRADABLE GAMING LAPTOP
I will get the gaming model once it's available
Sir, I really value battery life in a gaming laptop and the one I intend to buy sooner should be one of them. I have been using a 2018 Aero 15X, which was the battery king then in a portable gaming laptop chassis. You too I believe gave it a thumbs up. I would request you to suggest whether the newer Ryzen 7th Gen CPUs will release soon and if they will boast those industry leading battery stats. My activities includes light - mid gaming, Java coding and watching good quality content. Thanks!
The Ryzen 7945 laptops have been reviewing with worse battery life than the Intel i9s so far.
Hey Jarrod, it seems like many laptop with LTS (low temperature soldering) in China started to have problems after two years. Are you aware of thism?
Finally! JarrodsTech has come back… to… Legion!
Heh. Great video as always! Thanks.
Love Legions and the performance is insane for the size and cost! 32gb 5600 is a selling point right there. Most of the other 13th gen laptops have 16gb 4800 🤮
I don’t care about the creature comforts lost this year, compared to last year, because I use it as a desktop replacement AND I’m sure it kept the price down.
I just want the power and portability. 😉
is the 2023 legion pro 7i the same as the legion pro 7i gen8? They have the same specs
@@jean-claudedestruel5353Yes, Gen 8 is the current generation of the Legion lineup which offers the 13th gen Intel Core i5/i7/i9 series or 7th gen AMD Ryzen 5/7/9 (Zen4).
Anyone have the 4090 version? Does it boost to 175 watts ? Or stay at 150 on average watts ?
Wil you review the Lenovo yoga 9i pro next? I'm very curious to see the battery life!
Thanks for this laptop review.👍😃
Just bought this today (black friday) thanks to your website that shows deals on laptops... What a snag... $1899 USD for this machine. Thank you for convincing me to get this!
I was thinking about buying it, how's it so far? also compared to your old laptop
It has not been delivered yet. I am currently using a MSI crosshair 17 with a 3060 in it. Once i test out the legion I will keep you updated!@@Noviath-kw7dg
It's incredible indeed
@@Noviath-kw7dg just set it up and played some intensive games with it. It is amazing I 100% recommend you buy it if you’re still interested while it’s on sale
Have you experienced any micro stutters? how are the temps?
Many subjectives features removed, but perfomance and thernals are the king as always, great enough for me!
I had the same issue with the cpu overclocking until I reformated it using lenovos usb recovery creation tool. Now I'm able to click the cpu overlock button.
Hi Jarrod, have you had the chance to test different DDR5 ram speeds? The legions are using 5600mhz while the rogs are still using 4800mhz ones. Don’t know if they would make a difference.
If you play the games in 1080p, there is 5-7 difference in FPS. But in higher resolution like 1440p, the RAM speed difference is not noticeable.
Asus rog strix G16 looks more attractive this year
Filled with QC, if not yeh i would choose that over this
In China it's marketed as "Y/R9000P Ultimate", which is basically an upgraded version of Legion 5 Pro (Y/R9000P). Lenovo will probably come out with a real Legion 7 successor that's named as Legion Pro 9 later.
So I just got the asus a16 advantage edition and I was wondering if you could make a video about how to set it up for maximum gaming performance. Thank you!
Should we wait for Gen 10 or 11 considering USB C Charging Standards or should buy the Gen 9 or 8?
For me, the big disappointment was when I took a look at the Legion Pro i7 gen 8 display performance test:
sRGB color space 99.7%
Adobe RGB profile 71.2%
DCI-P3 color gamut 69.1
the lowest price on the market for a model with i9 and 4090 but the display is really cheap.
Gen 8 is a better chassis despite losing some luxury/ quality of life features imo, and I'll die on that hill. If they offered a gen 8 classic for example, that was gen 7 chassis, with gen 8 hardware upgrades, and we got to choose between the current 8 and the gen 8 "classic", I would go with the current gen 8. The cooling alone is a good enough reason. I don't mean the performance that the cooling provides, I mean like the quality of life upgrade the better cooling provides. My 12800HX/3070 Ti was uncomfortably warm at idle and just watching youtube videos. The vent corners were actually dangerously hot during a gaming session. With gen 8 I can load up the full 235w load and the only part that gets a little bit warm is directly under the screen {which I don't touch during normal use}, and even then, it's still perfectly comfortable/safe. It's more rigid, I like the finish better, the wrist rest doesn't dig into my wrist like gen 7 did, the screen is better, the jump to 240hz is very welcome to me for competitive games, as mentioned, it's significantly cooler, the hinges are sturdier, the list goes on and on. A finger print sensor and some I/O lighting is a small price to pay for the quality of life upgrades, the performance jump is just a bonus.
Hey! Would a fan like the IETS GT500 hurt the internal fans of the laptop?
Do you know if the Chinese version Y9000P differs in specs / interior design ? Because external design is completely different than the international legion 7i gen8 model
Worse camera(720p), smaller battery(80Wh), and worse RGB(Only white RGB). Other than that, I think it is the same
The removal of all the features that made 2022's Legion 7 so unique is just a dealbreaker for me. I'm so glad I bought last year's model rather than waiting for this one.
I have the 2022 Legion 7i as well. I am happy with my 2022 Legion 7i. I like how the 2023 Legion 7i has the 13900HX which gives you an extra 8 e-cores. However, what was Nvidia thinking when they decided to give the RTX 4080 mobile 12GB of VRAM? The 3080Ti mobile has 16GB of VRAM and many newer games are being bottlenecked by VRAM limitations. The 4080 mobile should not have less VRAM than the 3080TI mobile...
I just bought the Lenovo Legion 7i Gen 7 with RTX 3080TI and i never hesitated or looked back 😊