I prefer to attach the box to the stud, instead of the middle of the bay. There really isn't enough "meat" (wall) holding the box in place otherwise. Assume that someone will be plugging and unplugging repeatedly. That puts a lot on stress on the little bit of "real estate" holding the box in place. Plus, tamper-resistant receptacles are required in many places, which puts even more stress on the wall/box juncture. Arlington makes a 1 gang box with drywall screws (One-Box) already attached so you can screw it onto the wall. The box is UL listed for that purpose. You can use a 1/8' pilot bit (12" long) about 1" from the wall and make a hole into the attic. A 1 - 2' of 14 awg (solid) cut of wire, with the tip cut on an angle (to pass through insulation more easily and not likely to pierce existing insulated wires), will give you a better idea of where you should drill. The little hole is easily fixable. Also, a 2' X 4' piece (or two) of 3/4" (or smaller) plywood makes kneeling/moving about in an attic more bearable. A "ship auger" bit (18"?) is great, but you'll need a 1/2" chuck drill. Plus it can go through nails more easily than a paddle bit. Just my two cents. Great video, by the way. Sorry if I'm rambling on...
Thanks for all of that. Great suggestions. ... I just looked those up. That is awesome. around here I've only seen guys take the blue boxes and put drywall screws through them in random places. I'm attaching a link to those or something similar. www.lowes.com/pd/Southwire-1-Gang-Adjustable-Depth-Device-Box/5001935779?store=3256&cm_mmc=shp-_-c-_-prd-_-elc-_-ggl-_-CRP_SHP_LIA_ELC_Online_E-F-_-5001935779-_-local-_-0-_-0&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiAi_G5BhDXARIsAN5SX7oyd8DP0QRN-_Jao9ncvqEnlkUlPsD4SDfkS61I9Nq0N042yse1x4saAjnLEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds
Since I’m the DIY’er and not doing it for hire, I also use a vacuum hose right under my cut (and when sanding drywall patches) to capture 95% of the dust as it’s made. This video and your 3/4-way switch explanation are my two new favorites. So helpful!
If you can find a chimney there is at least 6 inches all around the chimney of free space. Especially in older homes. You can run wire from the basement all the way to the attic with no problems.
I do not recommend matching existing wrong placements of outlets. Agree that outlet boxes should be mounted on studs whenever possible. And you really need to get the Makita drywall cutout tool and a good dust collector. Game changer for stuff like this. Measuring wire seems like a huge time waster to me, but I’m good at wasting time in every other way.
If you spin your round multitool blade 90 degrees you'll be able to use both the round side and the flat side thereby negating the need for your utility knife.
For A Better, Stronger Box Mount, I Like To Use The Flat Sided Rectangular 180 Box, Have to Drill Holes at Least 3/4" Back From Fron, Don't Know Why They Have Hole 1/4" Back..Would Go Ito Drywall, Hope Manufacturers Will Wake Up. Then Locate Stud With Stud Finder Or Magnet. Find Where You Want Top Of Box, With Wallboard Saw, Cut Across Top Til You Hit Stud With Blade Perpendicular to Wall, Now With Top and One Side Located, Put Box Up To Wall, Draw The Rectangle, Gut Out for Box, Then With Wire Fished In, Romex or MC, Add Connector, Feed Ends Into Box, Then Screw Box To Stud, Very Strong, Solid. Box Should Just Barely Be Flush With Wall, If Sticking Out, Plate May Not Contact Wall. Hate The Plastic Boxes With Ears, Or Metal Cutins With All The Extra Cuts To Fit In Wall, 4 Straight Cuts For Rectangular Box, Doesn't Get Easier Than That. Stronger
Great tips brother, this is going to help with my old house that is in need of more outlets. But more importantly can we talk about the Dijon egg salad?? Never thought of that but now I’m hungry! 😂
All the best on your project! --- Quick and easy protein --we always keep boiled eggs in the fridge. A little avocadonaise, a healthy squirt of dijon, smash, and good to go :-)
If you use fiberglass rods or the like to push Romex past insulation in a wall, I suggest not forming a hook in the Romex because if the wire gets stuck and you can't move it forward or if you have to retrieve it, the hook can act as a barb and may prevent you from pulling the wire out. Instead, just electrical or duct tape the Romex parallel to the rod and use enough tape so it wont slip or be pulled off the rod. Also, it should be easier to go through the hole you've drilled, or the hole can me smaller because only a single piece of wire and the rod has to go through the hole and not a doubled over piece of wire.
How do you pull your rod back out without leaving the attic and untapping the rod? You might want to watch his demo again. If your wire gets stuck going down, cut it off and abandon it.
Bro get a laser "tape" measure! Lord having to stretch a tape out in an attic with everything in the way and especially when you measure twice. Hold a little Gizmo in your hand,push a button putting the laser pointer on starting measure point. Boom done... Measure 5 times if you want lol and anyone who is running wires in a house and doesn't have glow rods with them in any case... I have questions lol
The last oil change Dave did was blue restore not restore and protect two different products! I just changed my oil burner with restore and protect I hope it works as I've done just about the same steps as Dave with no success so far.
not gonna lie this video is almost making me want to run ethernet through my attic. I'm pretty certain my walls are plaster and lathe everywhere except in my basement so I don't know how feasible it is
I do not recommend matching existing wrong placements of outlets. Agree that outlet boxes should be mounted on studs whenever possible. And you really need to get the Makita drywall cutout tool and a good dust collector. Game changer for stuff like this. Measuring wire seems like a huge time waster to me, but I’m good at wasting time in every other way.
I prefer to attach the box to the stud, instead of the middle of the bay. There really isn't enough "meat" (wall) holding the box in place otherwise. Assume that someone will be plugging and unplugging repeatedly. That puts a lot on stress on the little bit of "real estate" holding the box in place. Plus, tamper-resistant receptacles are required in many places, which puts even more stress on the wall/box juncture. Arlington makes a 1 gang box with drywall screws (One-Box) already attached so you can screw it onto the wall. The box is UL listed for that purpose.
You can use a 1/8' pilot bit (12" long) about 1" from the wall and make a hole into the attic. A 1 - 2' of 14 awg (solid) cut of wire, with the tip cut on an angle (to pass through insulation more easily and not likely to pierce existing insulated wires), will give you a better idea of where you should drill. The little hole is easily fixable.
Also, a 2' X 4' piece (or two) of 3/4" (or smaller) plywood makes kneeling/moving about in an attic more bearable.
A "ship auger" bit (18"?) is great, but you'll need a 1/2" chuck drill. Plus it can go through nails more easily than a paddle bit.
Just my two cents. Great video, by the way. Sorry if I'm rambling on...
Thanks for all of that. Great suggestions. ... I just looked those up. That is awesome. around here I've only seen guys take the blue boxes and put drywall screws through them in random places. I'm attaching a link to those or something similar. www.lowes.com/pd/Southwire-1-Gang-Adjustable-Depth-Device-Box/5001935779?store=3256&cm_mmc=shp-_-c-_-prd-_-elc-_-ggl-_-CRP_SHP_LIA_ELC_Online_E-F-_-5001935779-_-local-_-0-_-0&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiAi_G5BhDXARIsAN5SX7oyd8DP0QRN-_Jao9ncvqEnlkUlPsD4SDfkS61I9Nq0N042yse1x4saAjnLEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds
Thanks for the additional info
Since I’m the DIY’er and not doing it for hire, I also use a vacuum hose right under my cut (and when sanding drywall patches) to capture 95% of the dust as it’s made. This video and your 3/4-way switch explanation are my two new favorites. So helpful!
Good tip!
A cradle of painters tape under the drywall cut also saves a lot of mess.
@@simongchadwick I'm going to have to try that. Thanks for the tip!
You really do a great job on these videos. I hope you keep making them, and have a great holiday!
Much appreciated, Bob. You too!
If you can find a chimney there is at least 6 inches all around the chimney of free space. Especially in older homes. You can run wire from the basement all the way to the attic with no problems.
Awesome tip!
you're a great teacher, this video was highly enjoyable to watch.... I'm a new sub
Much appreciated :-)
Merry Christmas Sir and Lady
Merry Christmas to you!
I do not recommend matching existing wrong placements of outlets.
Agree that outlet boxes should be mounted on studs whenever possible.
And you really need to get the Makita drywall cutout tool and a good dust collector. Game changer for stuff like this.
Measuring wire seems like a huge time waster to me, but I’m good at wasting time in every other way.
If you spin your round multitool blade 90 degrees you'll be able to use both the round side and the flat side thereby negating the need for your utility knife.
Doh! ... That's a great tip. I"ll be trying that. Thanks!
Where the second video of Valvoline restore and protect. We wanna see the part II
Yes.... we want to see the results of valvoline restore & protect on your car!!!
Working on it ... taking longer than expected.
@ yeah it does take 4 oil changes to see the difference in oil burn
Dave..Dave...Dave... nobody wants to see wire pulling videos...we want to see the oil drinking Corolla driving you nuts 😂...
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Did i miss the 2nd video on the premium blue?
For A Better, Stronger Box Mount, I Like To Use The Flat Sided Rectangular 180 Box, Have to Drill Holes at Least 3/4" Back From Fron, Don't Know Why They Have Hole 1/4" Back..Would Go Ito Drywall, Hope Manufacturers Will Wake Up.
Then Locate Stud With Stud Finder Or Magnet. Find Where You Want Top Of Box, With Wallboard Saw, Cut Across Top Til You Hit Stud With Blade Perpendicular to Wall, Now With Top and One Side Located, Put Box Up To Wall, Draw The Rectangle, Gut Out for Box, Then With Wire Fished In, Romex or MC, Add Connector, Feed Ends Into Box, Then Screw Box To Stud, Very Strong, Solid. Box Should Just Barely Be Flush With Wall, If Sticking Out, Plate May Not Contact Wall.
Hate The Plastic Boxes With Ears, Or Metal Cutins With All The Extra Cuts To Fit In Wall, 4 Straight Cuts For Rectangular Box, Doesn't Get Easier Than That. Stronger
Klein Tools has an amazing headlamp
Tape extensions together and you won’t lose them
Excellent tip! ... embarrassed I didn't think to do it :-)
Great tips brother, this is going to help with my old house that is in need of more outlets. But more importantly can we talk about the Dijon egg salad?? Never thought of that but now I’m hungry! 😂
All the best on your project! --- Quick and easy protein --we always keep boiled eggs in the fridge. A little avocadonaise, a healthy squirt of dijon, smash, and good to go :-)
If you use fiberglass rods or the like to push Romex past insulation in a wall, I suggest not forming a hook in the Romex because if the wire gets stuck and you can't move it forward or if you have to retrieve it, the hook can act as a barb and may prevent you from pulling the wire out. Instead, just electrical or duct tape the Romex parallel to the rod and use enough tape so it wont slip or be pulled off the rod. Also, it should be easier to go through the hole you've drilled, or the hole can me smaller because only a single piece of wire and the rod has to go through the hole and not a doubled over piece of wire.
How do you pull your rod back out without leaving the attic and untapping the rod? You might want to watch his demo again.
If your wire gets stuck going down, cut it off and abandon it.
Instead of bit extensions there are extra long drill bits 12", 16", 72" for example. They are not too expensive and are much less hassle.
Good info :-)
Diablo at Home Depot. They're great😊
This was great. Lots of wonderful tips!
Much appreciated!
Yes.... we want to see the results of valvoline restore & protect on your car!!!
Taking longer than expected. Ran into some snags mid production.
Ok... we'll be looking forward to seeing it
Use a box cutter on your multi cuts a few extra seconds off but perfect cut every time
I consider mounting the boxes in the attic higher in case the homeowner adds insulation.
Great advice. Thanks!
Bro get a laser "tape" measure! Lord having to stretch a tape out in an attic with everything in the way and especially when you measure twice. Hold a little Gizmo in your hand,push a button putting the laser pointer on starting measure point. Boom done... Measure 5 times if you want lol and anyone who is running wires in a house and doesn't have glow rods with them in any case... I have questions lol
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What happened to the civic oil changes? Is it still burning oil? Are you taking it apart to see the problem?
The experiment is still in production. Hit a snag which put it on pause. Hoping to get it resolved soon. Sorry for the wait.
All around Great Video
Thank you!
The last oil change Dave did was blue restore not restore and protect two different products! I just changed my oil burner with restore and protect I hope it works as I've done just about the same steps as Dave with no success so far.
Keep us posted on your progress?
I will
not gonna lie this video is almost making me want to run ethernet through my attic. I'm pretty certain my walls are plaster and lathe everywhere except in my basement so I don't know how feasible it is
Go for it. The only difference is, I use a grout blade on my oscillating tool when I cut the box holes in plaster.
@@FamilyFriendlyDIY ok cool. gonna try to get it done before it gets too hot in my attid
This is a great video. But what happened with the cummings cleraner and the Corola...? lol.
Still working on it. Had some delays.
@@FamilyFriendlyDIY I certainly understand.
Certain size wire has certain Olms per foot
You can measure wire with Olms on your meter. It. Is dead accurate
Ohms
@@Hvacrpro123 how does this method tell you where to cut?
Rule number 1 in show business..give the people what they want...we want oil burning 😂...
I know, right? I'm just as bummed as everyone else that I haven't finished the other experiment. :-)
So that means you are 6ft tall, there about.
Yep ... 6'3"
That's not pulling wire. That's poking Romex through insulation.
Touche! ... You definitely have a point.
Your videos are amazing! May I kindly ask for your business inquiry email?
eww get that dijon egg salad outta here!
:-)
I do not recommend matching existing wrong placements of outlets.
Agree that outlet boxes should be mounted on studs whenever possible.
And you really need to get the Makita drywall cutout tool and a good dust collector. Game changer for stuff like this.
Measuring wire seems like a huge time waster to me, but I’m good at wasting time in every other way.