Our military sure does use them! I see them every single day here in San Diego on Navy boats and commercial work boats. Just talked to an owner of 15 e-tecs and said that he will stick with them. Has over 5,000 hours on them and still running strong.
They need to get to the fishing holes pretty quickly to catch the fish first, which buys them more time to get more fish, meaning they win the tournament
Just bought another Evinrude because I love the 2 stroke smell, I hope there is some smoke now because the fellow at the shop just kept telling me about Eco this and that. I didn't have the heart to say I didn't care. With regard to power, well - if your buddy thinks a 4 cycle engine could even have a chance against a 2 cycle engine, then there is little point even trying to debate the point - this is just one of those things - it is a given. I'm surprisingly still seeing people falling for the 4 stroke propaganda. I guess, what they don't know, won't hurt them. Peace to all.
evinrude etech are the best engines simply bcoz its a 2 stroke, why do some of these comments say yamaha wasnt at fun throttle? The test wouldnt of been made without it begin fair! The only reason why the mph where so different was coz the boat was planeing with the evinrude, yamaha couldnt get the boat to plane and was so much slower it was just trying to push this huge boat through the water, i just bought a 90hp etech and it is the best thing i have ever bought.
@SeeNanners Ofcouse I did, I have owned so many boats and forgot that the ones that ran 2 strokes needed oil. What do you think? Adding oil does suck and doing an oil change is better. I guess I can't make up my mind if I like speed or fuel efficiency?? Oh, I but I know I can get both and more with the new SHO on my Skeeter ZX225 that I ordered.
I have twin 300's HPDI on a 26 foot Hydra Sport. The acceleration is amazing. The fuel burn is also great. I wouldn't trade them for anything. .....#yamaha4life
I looked at my gps unit....have gone 2123 miles..have no idea what that converts to in hours...but my 115 etec hangs out at sandbars on the weekend.just takes me 30 minutes w.o.t. to get there.My etec is 2 1/2years old.Not 1 issue.I use ethanol fuel from the gas station, then put stabil marine 360 in the fuel.I run the xd100 oil.Consumes very little oil.No smoke or fumes.Stock aluminum prop still.Lots of torque. I out holeshot all the 4 strokes in the same league as my setup.Just my 2 cents. My neighbor had a 225 yamaha on a 23 angler..over 5 years and 1600 hours,it never had a problem.We changed ALOT of oil though.Maintenance was alot with the Yamaha.
yea like 5 mouths later started to have a lot of problems the hydraulic motor failed, then soon after the water pump failed after that I just traded the boat in for a boat that I have now and that was 4 years ago and not ones had a problem with it
When I was on a trip with my friend which is a guide in the keys he switched to Evinrude E-tec. He switched from A yamaha V-Max. When he switched on his 4th trip he lost group of costumers because he could not even get it started! He only had a Evinrude for 2 months then he switched back to Yamaha V-Max. Yamaha's have so much more reliability when you need it.
when I was 8 yrs old, in 1966, the sound of an old white face mercury 80, and 100, was a pure warning of the horror that could happen if mishandled. That was sound.
I believe this because my buddy and I each have ranger 621 vs and I have a 300 etec and he a 300 yamaha and when we have a full tank of gas and 4 guys in 2 to 3 foot chop it's really hard to get on plane. sometimes it can't my etec gets on plane but it can be difficult but it's a lot easier than the yamaha to get on plane. My top speed is 62mph and my buddy is 63mph so there very close and his is a tad but quieter. We both have had no problems and I have 549 hours and he has around 475 I believe that's just my 2 cents I like both motors there are identical on gas like within a .25 of a gallon when we fill up
whats better Yamaha VMAX or the Evinrude E-tec? this year i am going to bye new outboard i dont know what to bye yet, every body tells something diffrent.
I hate to discredit anyone, but in the last test for my college physics class we applied the concept... power=force / time. Such that if it takes 2000 N to move an object x distance in 10 seconds, then the motor would require 200 hp at 100% efficiency to get job done.
The other reason the E-Tec has a 17mph advantage in this test IS THE TORQUE. This is a heavy boat. In order to get the boat out of the water and onto plane it requires TORQUE. Torque is what is used to move at low speeds and move weight. If the low torque Yami can't get the boat out of the water it will never pass plowing speed. But since the E-Tec has more torque it can push the boat up. Once on plane it is easy to push fast with horsepower.
Per wikipedia: One pound-foot is the torque created by one pound force acting at a perpendicular distance of one foot from a pivot point. Thanks come again.
I'm willing to bet if you swapped out the props the results would be the other way around. That Yamaha also isn't running at wide open. You can hear him pull it back a bit and it not propped right.
@seadoospeedsterful oh good for you and your Mercury outboard. Where is that built? China? Japan? USA? I can't keep up. Everyone has their preference. It is clear that the Yamaha is trimmed all the way down and that is all I pointed out. If this test (among others) wasn't true why didn't Yamaha conduct some of their own testing to prove this test wrong?
We rented a Yam 225 4 str, ETec 175 on 23 CC and Merc 140 2 str on 20' CC. Yam 225 4 str was nice, quiet, efficient but weak. The ETec 175 was far quicker and burned less gas. The 05 Merc 140 was fast, noisy, coarse (4 yrs service?) and a gas hog. The charterer tested a 150 ETec v. 225 Yam 4str on same boat and he will be buying 150 ETecs for his next boats. Performance is little diff. Roughly same mileage for all boats: Etec 175 (51 gal), Merc 140 (69 gal), Yam 225 (65 gal).
it wasn't wide open u can hear him throttle back, these evinrude commercials are all hacked, yes a 2 stroke has a steeper toque band but the 4 stroke has plenty of bottom end to get that cc on a plane hell a 150 could get the job done. its crazy how they straight lie about these "tests" makes me think twice about evinrude, ill stick with the quiet reliable yami
You guys know nothing about how engines run or why the Yamaha COULDN'T make it to full RPM......not throttle. Go buy a boat that is too big for a motor to plane it and you will see why the Yamy didn't get to "full throttle" as you call it lol
lol well prop pitch can always help achieve the desired rpm on a boat motor, but ive towed boats behind me with a little 40 hp outboard and you def can hear when your holding it wide open or not regardless of getting it up on a plane or not. The throttle butterfly/flies will still be wide open regardless of rpm. Same concept of flooring a car engine with aftermarke short ram or cold air intake... u can hear the difference. Either way I still call BS on these staged commercials.
"A lot of manufacturers switched their pro** from two stroke outboards to four strokes. Evinrude took a different path" Well Mercury not only switched to four strokes but took the different path anyway and now they offer both the 4 strokes and Optimax.
because mercurys are for everyone, if you want something with grunt, get the opti, if youre a flog with no money or want to be financially stable (not have to buy 2 stroke oil), get the 4 strokes
Hmm, first advice from my boat mechanic when I was buying a boat. Never buy a boat with Mercury or Evinrude if you want reliability, choose either 1) Yamaha then 2) Honda. I bought Yamaha, never been happier. He also said that newer US made outboards are increasing prone to malfunction
listen to the yammie sound from 3:40 to 3:47... how is it possible that in the beginning of the shot it is louder(even though it is filmed from another boat) then the shot from the boat itself? obviously tinkering with the throttle and/or props can cause this much difference. Otherwise- you would get the same reading. Only diff would be that e tec would reach it in 8 seconds and yamaha in 20 seconds
interesting they make no comment about props. You can't have two engines side by side without having one counter-rotating, so I'd be interested to see the prop on each. I'd also like how they cut out the bit where the exec actually gets the boat out of the hole. The video jumps from gathering like the Yamaha did to cruising at 30knots. Not a hater - just curious.
Yes you can. In 60's and 70's it was common. Ofcourse it's better to have them counterrotate so they cancel each other off. There's a old centerconsole in our marine (2023)with two 200 yamahas from 80's turning the same direction.
Actually torque IS a force acting in rotation. Again once you can pass your basic physics class take a statics class. You wrote that torque is the moment of a force about a point. That is correct. So exactly what you said, a moment is a rotation. Torque = moment and moment = rotation so...Torque = rotation.
Notice how they never ran against the new Suzuki 4 strokes. The comment some manufacturers switched to all 4 strokes was directed at Suzuki. And yet I never once seen a Evinrude factory test directly against Suzuki. I have seen independent tests that dont support most of the claims of the E Tech. Do your research carefully.
I have a 1982 90 hp Evinrude V4, still runs great. Probably will replace with a Honda if it ever wears out. All my friends have Hondas. Probably will trade my Hemi Ram for a Honda Ridgeline, if it makes it to a million miles. Or NOT!
A direct force moves an object. A force put into rotation is a moment(torque) and horsepower is torque sped up. You have to tell me why trucks are bought for high torque if torque is useless.
2 stroke will always have more torque, this video is true but why do they compare them, its a given, they should compare them after 5 years and then you wil know why we all love Yamaha.
lol notice the throttle position when he does the yamaha NOT all the way down and you can hear him let off too. oh and notice how they dont show the throttle position when he does the evinrude and he does not let off he keeps it all the way down FALSE ADVERTISING
Its been a well know fact for a long time that 2's are better then fours when it comes to wholeshot performence. 4's are quieter, use less fuel and dont smell at all. I imagine these new e-tec's are good, but off the mark permormence is a small price to pay i think
I think the etec is amazing, do to the fact that its lighter and produces more power then standard 4 strokes and emits less harmful byproducts. the only down side is that they are expensive. money, money, money. you buy a brand new lund 17ft deep v for the price on one 150hp v etec. however the fact that the etec won't cause as many problems and will las for years makes it worth it. also evirudes last forever any way. i own a 55' 30hp and my grandfather and uncle own 59'modles and their great
do matter the brand,u just can't compare 4stroke to a 2 stroke Yamaha will always b the best outboard reliable and durable and for the record id like to c how that e-tec would do against a v-max
having had a 2.6 XFlow OMC and changing to a 2.7 OMC looper what a flop 4 torque. Now with 3.0L OMC and just got the torque back. Real torque is somethimg like a PW R4360 ar a Maybach HL230 P45. Or a Chevvy.
Let me ask you again since you ignored it before. If torque meant nothing or was not important why is teh measure of torque tho ONLY thing that matters when people buy big diesel trucks to haul heavy loads?
I run a factory sponsored boat with twin 300 e-tecs... They are light, powerful and fuel efficient... There are advantages you gain from 4 stroke and 2 stroke... Now if I was going to power a boat with trips I would go for suzuki or merc 4 stroke.... This is an advertisement for Evinrude, what don't you people get?
Take a trip to Florida where people do daily fishing charters. Some operators have 8-10,000 hours on their Yamaha's and they have not been taken apart. Good maintenance by the book works. Awesome motors.
+Robert Bradley yeah and put a 15 or 17 on it. that etec revs up instantly while the Yamaha sounds like cannot get it's rpm up. I donno how heavy that boat is but single 225 should be able to holeshot that boat.
I have had Yamaha products all my life and they are the best. I have an F100 outboard that is a 2000 model with thousands of hours on it. I maintain it properly and it still starts, runs and performs the same way as the day I brought it home from the dealership.
@Akayamtech and @Karmanjanko WHAT!? etecs are efficient, powerful,styilish,quiet but not silent AND NOT WEIGHTY,why dont u need weight? speed and your transom may stress with weight,had a yamaha,two stroke 25 on a 420 bass tracker,aluminium,god it was SLOW,now we have a 4m seawasp with a a 25 hp etec, sure it had a oil leak, but we replaced it for free under warranty AND NO SERVICE FOR 3 YEARS HELL YEAH,4 strokes=service every year. and the 25 on the seawasp(fibreglass) IS QUICK
But you just can't beat that 2 strke growl on take off from an OMC looper. My 1992 V6 has the same growl (Emissions don't quite agree with the Kyoto green house gas emissions, but hey bring back high octane gasoline/petrol. Look at Yamaha, Mercury bottom, OMC Top. They should stick to recorders (wind type of instrument). Ting, ding tuning fork YaMaHa:-). If your serious about offshore but in a GM Diesel 16V149 Series.
Actually no. Torque dictates how much power you have. Torque is the constant. Now you can simulate (not create) torque with gearing. Now take 2 engines, same horsepower and same gearing. The one with more torque will out accelerate the other. Re-gear the less torquey motor to boost acceleration and you then lack top speed. That is how this test works.
I want to know the gear ratio on these two outboards ,and what kind of propellers they used in this test. This comparison between those two engines says nothing... I want to see facts,,,not some maybe propaganda film...
that's exactly what happened in this test....evinrude is a two stroke and there was no difference between the two engines....there might have been a difference with the the standard props but even with the same props the evinrude would win due to it's torque.
Summarily, physics tells us: POWER = FORCE * VELCOCITY HENCE: POWER = MASS * ACCELERATION * VELOCITY THUS: ACCELERATION = POWER/(MASS * VELOCITY) DRIVEN WHEEL TORQUE is what dictates acceleration. And at any given vehicle speed, DRIVEN WHEEL TORQUE is proportional to engine HP (as dictated by the selected gear, which establishes the corresponding RPM - and hence HP - at that vehicle speed) minus total drive-line loss
I agree with ranger boatman. Sounds like he's feathering the throttle on the Yammmerhammmer. Anyway, without knowing what props they were using, this vid is nothing more than a evinrude commercial.
what this video basically says its some lakes you can only use 4 stroke motors basically what their saying is its the best you can use on those lakes. these tests i know they arent fare because their going against 4 strokes but its just marketing every single commercial says a boat motor is faster than the other
"Oh and this was on the Physic's forums as the definition." - l67torque "I don't use a "physics forum"." - l67torque Contradiction? Either you have used one so you can give me the link, or you are lying and that voids everything you say. Give me a link or your argument is void.
You're contradicting yourself. The only thing you said that is correct is same hp= same top speed. Which, in this case, weight would be a factor. And lower gearing does not equal lower top speed when you have more rpms to work with. When 2 motors make the same hp but one makes less torque, it simply means the less torquey engine needs more gear reduction to produce similar torque throughout the rpms as the more torquey engine. Yamaha needs lower gearing because the powercurve requires it.
Boy are they desperate to make Vids like that.... I have a almost identical Boat with 2 150Yamas and i bring it to plane with only one 150hp every time! Go away e-tech!
@@leonsteyn6402 yeah leon I bet he is so sad knowing that evinrude is no longer making them crap motors and finding anyone to work on one in a couple years will be a waste of time as all dealers have been screwed by evinrude and already have no desire to deal with them after just one month.
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Our military sure does use them! I see them every single day here in San Diego on Navy boats and commercial work boats. Just talked to an owner of 15 e-tecs and said that he will stick with them. Has over 5,000 hours on them and still running strong.
they should run out and buy them quick because so many people loved evinrude they quit making them.
I love that they need a really powerful outboard to win a fishing tournament.
They need to get to the fishing holes pretty quickly to catch the fish first, which buys them more time to get more fish, meaning they win the tournament
Just bought another Evinrude because I love the 2 stroke smell, I hope there is some smoke now because the fellow at the shop just kept telling me about Eco this and that. I didn't have the heart to say I didn't care. With regard to power, well - if your buddy thinks a 4 cycle engine could even have a chance against a 2 cycle engine, then there is little point even trying to debate the point - this is just one of those things - it is a given. I'm surprisingly still seeing people falling for the 4 stroke propaganda. I guess, what they don't know, won't hurt them. Peace to all.
I know people who choose 4 stroke regardless of power
evinrude etech are the best engines simply bcoz its a 2 stroke, why do some of these comments say yamaha wasnt at fun throttle? The test wouldnt of been made without it begin fair! The only reason why the mph where so different was coz the boat was planeing with the evinrude, yamaha couldnt get the boat to plane and was so much slower it was just trying to push this huge boat through the water, i just bought a 90hp etech and it is the best thing i have ever bought.
@SeeNanners Ofcouse I did, I have owned so many boats and forgot that the ones that ran 2 strokes needed oil. What do you think? Adding oil does suck and doing an oil change is better. I guess I can't make up my mind if I like speed or fuel efficiency?? Oh, I but I know I can get both and more with the new SHO on my Skeeter ZX225 that I ordered.
I have twin 300's HPDI on a 26 foot Hydra Sport. The acceleration is amazing. The fuel burn is also great. I wouldn't trade them for anything. .....#yamaha4life
Have fun with your shitty Evinrude if they were that good maybe the would have stayed in business
didn't you check the prop?did they have the same pitch?
I looked at my gps unit....have gone 2123 miles..have no idea what that converts to in hours...but my 115 etec hangs out at sandbars on the weekend.just takes me 30 minutes w.o.t. to get there.My etec is 2 1/2years old.Not 1 issue.I use ethanol fuel from the gas station, then put stabil marine 360 in the fuel.I run the xd100 oil.Consumes very little oil.No smoke or fumes.Stock aluminum prop still.Lots of torque. I out holeshot all the 4 strokes in the same league as my setup.Just my 2 cents.
My neighbor had a 225 yamaha on a 23 angler..over 5 years and 1600 hours,it never had a problem.We changed ALOT of oil though.Maintenance was alot with the Yamaha.
yea like 5 mouths later started to have a lot of problems the hydraulic motor failed, then soon after the water pump failed after that I just traded the boat in for a boat that I have now and that was 4 years ago and not ones had a problem with it
i wanna watch the rest of this, where can i find it?
When I was on a trip with my friend which is a guide in the keys he switched to Evinrude E-tec. He switched from A yamaha V-Max. When he switched on his 4th trip he lost group of costumers because he could not even get it started! He only had a Evinrude for 2 months then he switched back to Yamaha V-Max. Yamaha's have so much more reliability when you need it.
Did u full the throttle on yamaha?? It sound didn't go half
when I was 8 yrs old, in 1966, the sound of an old white face mercury 80, and 100, was a pure warning of the horror that could happen if mishandled. That was sound.
Excellent machine Evinrude E-tec
I believe this because my buddy and I each have ranger 621 vs and I have a 300 etec and he a 300 yamaha and when we have a full tank of gas and 4 guys in 2 to 3 foot chop it's really hard to get on plane. sometimes it can't my etec gets on plane but it can be difficult but it's a lot easier than the yamaha to get on plane. My top speed is 62mph and my buddy is 63mph so there very close and his is a tad but quieter. We both have had no problems and I have 549 hours and he has around 475 I believe that's just my 2 cents I like both motors there are identical on gas like within a .25 of a gallon when we fill up
Oh and this was on the Physic's forums as the definition. Torque is the moment of a force about a point.
Thanks for playing.
Whats the length and weight of the boat??
whats better Yamaha VMAX or the Evinrude E-tec? this year i am going to bye new outboard i dont know what to bye yet, every body tells something diffrent.
I wonder what people at the Ramp thought of the Yamaha Evinrude set up
Also manufacturers usually give 2 recommended props. They probably put the biggest one on the Yamaha and the smallest one on the etc!
Fantastic!
I hate to discredit anyone, but in the last test for my college physics class we applied the concept... power=force / time. Such that if it takes 2000 N to move an object x distance in 10 seconds, then the motor would require 200 hp at 100% efficiency to get job done.
Its a preference n how good you keep up with maintenance on them lets just enjoy the boat ride n do some fishing
The other reason the E-Tec has a 17mph advantage in this test IS THE TORQUE. This is a heavy boat. In order to get the boat out of the water and onto plane it requires TORQUE. Torque is what is used to move at low speeds and move weight. If the low torque Yami can't get the boat out of the water it will never pass plowing speed. But since the E-Tec has more torque it can push the boat up. Once on plane it is easy to push fast with horsepower.
Give me the link to the physics forum because what you are correct on proves my point.
Per wikipedia: One pound-foot is the torque created by one pound force acting at a perpendicular distance of one foot from a pivot point. Thanks come again.
E-tech all the way
Could you show me where I said torque meant nothing? I'll be waiting.
@DunksXD Because, why use civillian 2stroke tech when theres the opoc engine
What is the most powerful E-Tech Evinrude offers? and what are its specs?
I'm willing to bet if you swapped out the props the results would be the other way around. That Yamaha also isn't running at wide open. You can hear him pull it back a bit and it not propped right.
@seadoospeedsterful oh good for you and your Mercury outboard. Where is that built? China? Japan? USA? I can't keep up. Everyone has their preference. It is clear that the Yamaha is trimmed all the way down and that is all I pointed out. If this test (among others) wasn't true why didn't Yamaha conduct some of their own testing to prove this test wrong?
Yammys, literaly " cry me a river "
We rented a Yam 225 4 str, ETec 175 on 23 CC and Merc 140 2 str on 20' CC. Yam 225 4 str was nice, quiet, efficient but weak. The ETec 175 was far quicker and burned less gas. The 05 Merc 140 was fast, noisy, coarse (4 yrs service?) and a gas hog.
The charterer tested a 150 ETec v. 225 Yam 4str on same boat and he will be buying 150 ETecs for his next boats. Performance is little diff. Roughly same mileage for all boats: Etec 175 (51 gal), Merc 140 (69 gal), Yam 225 (65 gal).
Have a 175 yamaha and that does not sound like max throttle
it wasnt
it wasn't wide open u can hear him throttle back, these evinrude commercials are all hacked, yes a 2 stroke has a steeper toque band but the 4 stroke has plenty of bottom end to get that cc on a plane hell a 150 could get the job done. its crazy how they straight lie about these "tests" makes me think twice about evinrude, ill stick with the quiet reliable yami
You guys know nothing about how engines run or why the Yamaha COULDN'T make it to full RPM......not throttle. Go buy a boat that is too big for a motor to plane it and you will see why the Yamy didn't get to "full throttle" as you call it lol
lol well prop pitch can always help achieve the desired rpm on a boat motor, but ive towed boats behind me with a little 40 hp outboard and you def can hear when your holding it wide open or not regardless of getting it up on a plane or not. The throttle butterfly/flies will still be wide open regardless of rpm. Same concept of flooring a car engine with aftermarke short ram or cold air intake... u can hear the difference. Either way I still call BS on these staged commercials.
That's because the "captain" is an evinrude guy
"A lot of manufacturers switched their pro** from two stroke outboards to four strokes. Evinrude took a different path" Well Mercury not only switched to four strokes but took the different path anyway and now they offer both the 4 strokes and Optimax.
because mercurys are for everyone, if you want something with grunt, get the opti, if youre a flog with no money or want to be financially stable (not have to buy 2 stroke oil), get the 4 strokes
i love the sound of a evenrude
i think the point was not apples to oranges, rather since theres such a hipe about 4 strokes, they're just saying the two stroke motor is not dead
Hmm, first advice from my boat mechanic when I was buying a boat. Never buy a boat with Mercury or Evinrude if you want reliability, choose either 1) Yamaha then 2) Honda. I bought Yamaha, never been happier. He also said that newer US made outboards are increasing prone to malfunction
Suzuki is good also but yamaha ALL THE WAYY!!!
etec is best
keimolantio just don't get the 350 Yamaha, those are real pieces of shit
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Right on! I learned very early on if you want reliability chose a well known Jap motor, also a 4 stroke.
Lol at 2:25, all the Fichts in the background
Evinrude was from Norway.
listen to the yammie sound from 3:40 to 3:47... how is it possible that in the beginning of the shot it is louder(even though it is filmed from another boat) then the shot from the boat itself? obviously tinkering with the throttle and/or props can cause this much difference. Otherwise- you would get the same reading. Only diff would be that e tec would reach it in 8 seconds and yamaha in 20 seconds
run that e tec next to a vmax 2 stroke... lets see that video wheres it at ???????
interesting they make no comment about props. You can't have two engines side by side without having one counter-rotating, so I'd be interested to see the prop on each. I'd also like how they cut out the bit where the exec actually gets the boat out of the hole. The video jumps from gathering like the Yamaha did to cruising at 30knots. Not a hater - just curious.
Yes you can. In 60's and 70's it was common. Ofcourse it's better to have them counterrotate so they cancel each other off. There's a old centerconsole in our marine (2023)with two 200 yamahas from 80's turning the same direction.
Helps if you rev the Yammy. Dont sound like any Yammy I've ever driven
Why do they keep comparing 2 strokes with 4 strokes.
Because other manufacturers are stuck on making 4 strokes?
i want to see the rest
Actually torque IS a force acting in rotation. Again once you can pass your basic physics class take a statics class.
You wrote that torque is the moment of a force about a point. That is correct. So exactly what you said, a moment is a rotation. Torque = moment and moment = rotation so...Torque = rotation.
i dont think they had the tabs down on the yamaha run out of the hole.
Are you going to answer a single damn question. WHAT IS THE PHYSICS FORUM?
why do law enforcement and coast guards use Honda? How does this evenrude compare with those?
true and i will agree that there tests are biased towards OMC, but all i was meaning to say that there test against the hpdi that the etect won.
Notice how they never ran against the new Suzuki 4 strokes. The comment some manufacturers switched to all 4 strokes was directed at Suzuki. And yet I never once seen a Evinrude factory test directly against Suzuki. I have seen independent tests that dont support most of the claims of the E Tech. Do your research carefully.
I have a 1982 90 hp Evinrude V4, still runs great. Probably will replace with a Honda if it ever wears out. All my friends have Hondas. Probably will trade my Hemi Ram for a Honda Ridgeline, if it makes it to a million miles. Or NOT!
A direct force moves an object. A force put into rotation is a moment(torque) and horsepower is torque sped up.
You have to tell me why trucks are bought for high torque if torque is useless.
hahahahahahahaha i literally laughed out loud when i read that
they didn't put a prop on the yam is was only the exhaust pushing the boat XD
2 stroke will always have more torque, this video is true but why do they compare them, its a given, they should compare them after 5 years and then you wil know why we all love Yamaha.
both engines are good they're the best
lol notice the throttle position when he does the yamaha NOT all the way down and you can hear him let off too. oh and notice how they dont show the throttle position when he does the evinrude and he does not let off he keeps it all the way down FALSE ADVERTISING
Its been a well know fact for a long time that 2's are better then fours when it comes to wholeshot performence. 4's are quieter, use less fuel and dont smell at all. I imagine these new e-tec's are good, but off the mark permormence is a small price to pay i think
I think the etec is amazing, do to the fact that its lighter and produces more power then standard 4 strokes and emits less harmful byproducts. the only down side is that they are expensive. money, money, money. you buy a brand new lund 17ft deep v for the price on one 150hp v etec. however the fact that the etec won't cause as many problems and will las for years makes it worth it. also evirudes last forever any way. i own a 55' 30hp and my grandfather and uncle own 59'modles and their great
You have to show me where I said torque is useless? I'll be waiting.
Evinrude Rocks!!
im a huge 2 stroke fan But I dont think they maxxed out the yamaha, I didnt hear it tac up all the way like i did the etec.
I don't care if Evinrude is faster. Yamaha is the best engine ever!
Evinrude will take you there quickly, but Yamaha will get you back to the jetti
Evinrude used to be the king. Back in the day
do matter the brand,u just can't compare 4stroke to a 2 stroke Yamaha will always b the best outboard reliable and durable and for the record id like to c how that e-tec would do against a v-max
What’s that I’m hearing? Get a 2 stroke vmax you say? Hell yeh
having had a 2.6 XFlow OMC and changing to a 2.7 OMC looper what a flop 4 torque. Now with 3.0L OMC and just got the torque back. Real torque is somethimg like a PW R4360 ar a Maybach HL230 P45. Or a Chevvy.
Let me ask you again since you ignored it before. If torque meant nothing or was not important why is teh measure of torque tho ONLY thing that matters when people buy big diesel trucks to haul heavy loads?
I run a factory sponsored boat with twin 300 e-tecs... They are light, powerful and fuel efficient... There are advantages you gain from 4 stroke and 2 stroke... Now if I was going to power a boat with trips I would go for suzuki or merc 4 stroke.... This is an advertisement for Evinrude, what don't you people get?
Do you REALLY think people will believe this? Take the 23 inch pitch prop off of the Yamaha and trim it in to the transom and lets see what happens.
yeah, my first impression of this video is there is abit of deceiving going on. That Yamaha is more than capable of getting the boat on plane.
Take a trip to Florida where people do daily fishing charters. Some operators have 8-10,000 hours on their Yamaha's and they have not been taken apart. Good maintenance by the book works. Awesome motors.
+Robert Bradley yeah and put a 15 or 17 on it. that etec revs up instantly while the Yamaha sounds like cannot get it's rpm up. I donno how heavy that boat is but single 225 should be able to holeshot that boat.
I have had Yamaha products all my life and they are the best. I have an F100 outboard that is a 2000 model with thousands of hours on it. I maintain it properly and it still starts, runs and performs the same way as the day I brought it home from the dealership.
Install a 15 prop and then it will have torque but will over rev and blow the engine up.
@Akayamtech and @Karmanjanko WHAT!? etecs are efficient, powerful,styilish,quiet but not silent AND NOT WEIGHTY,why dont u need weight? speed and your transom may stress with weight,had a yamaha,two stroke 25 on a 420 bass tracker,aluminium,god it was SLOW,now we have a 4m seawasp with a a 25 hp etec, sure it had a oil leak, but we replaced it for free under warranty AND NO SERVICE FOR 3 YEARS HELL YEAH,4 strokes=service every year. and the 25 on the seawasp(fibreglass) IS QUICK
So true
is't fair to compare donkey and horse?
the 480p setting is a lie!
But you just can't beat that 2 strke growl on take off from an OMC looper. My 1992 V6 has the same growl (Emissions don't quite agree with the Kyoto green house gas emissions, but hey bring back high octane gasoline/petrol. Look at Yamaha, Mercury bottom, OMC Top. They should stick to recorders (wind type of instrument). Ting, ding tuning fork YaMaHa:-).
If your serious about offshore but in a GM Diesel 16V149 Series.
Actually no. Torque dictates how much power you have. Torque is the constant. Now you can simulate (not create) torque with gearing. Now take 2 engines, same horsepower and same gearing. The one with more torque will out accelerate the other. Re-gear the less torquey motor to boost acceleration and you then lack top speed. That is how this test works.
I want to know the gear ratio on these two outboards ,and what kind of propellers they used in this test.
This comparison between those two engines says nothing...
I want to see facts,,,not some maybe propaganda film...
Give me a link. You say you write on a physics forum, well give me the link to that forum.
Or are you lying?
Can we see one of these master outboards against a honda of equal HP .. this is so funny im pissing my pants
they did but it up against the hpdi and it beat is hands down
that's exactly what happened in this test....evinrude is a two stroke and there was no difference between the two engines....there might have been a difference with the the standard props but even with the same props the evinrude would win due to it's torque.
Summarily, physics tells us:
POWER = FORCE * VELCOCITY
HENCE: POWER = MASS * ACCELERATION * VELOCITY
THUS: ACCELERATION = POWER/(MASS * VELOCITY)
DRIVEN WHEEL TORQUE is what dictates acceleration.
And at any given vehicle speed, DRIVEN WHEEL TORQUE is proportional to engine HP (as dictated by the selected gear, which establishes the corresponding RPM - and hence HP - at that vehicle speed) minus total drive-line loss
crap! i think they didn't put the throtle even on the half of his max with yamaha...it's so stupid
I agree with ranger boatman. Sounds like he's feathering the throttle on the Yammmerhammmer. Anyway, without knowing what props they were using, this vid is nothing more than a evinrude commercial.
Yamaha are by far the best and most reliable! That's why all the pros use them
@jeflagoon 2 stroke has way more torque. If you want less power go 4 stroke.
@mariner10rpr The sho is better but maintence is still an issue
You can't compare a 2 stroke engine with a 4 stroke. You should have used a mercury (or mariner) Optimax 225. 2 stroke vs 2 stroke.
Fullscreen for SNES feeling, mmmm, pixels...
what this video basically says its some lakes you can only use 4 stroke motors basically what their saying is its the best you can use on those lakes. these tests i know they arent fare because their going against 4 strokes but its just marketing every single commercial says a boat motor is faster than the other
E-Tec helped finally put omc out of business!
The yamaha wasn't pushed to the console
bs eaither that yamaha wasent running right or he was backin off the throttle
"Oh and this was on the Physic's forums as the definition." - l67torque
"I don't use a "physics forum"." - l67torque
Contradiction?
Either you have used one so you can give me the link, or you are lying and that voids everything you say.
Give me a link or your argument is void.
You're contradicting yourself. The only thing you said that is correct is same hp= same top speed. Which, in this case, weight would be a factor. And lower gearing does not equal lower top speed when you have more rpms to work with. When 2 motors make the same hp but one makes less torque, it simply means the less torquey engine needs more gear reduction to produce similar torque throughout the rpms as the more torquey engine. Yamaha needs lower gearing because the powercurve requires it.
And 14 years later evinrude is out of business and the Yamaha 3.3 4strokes Rot out the mid sections
Boy are they desperate to make Vids like that.... I have a almost identical Boat with 2 150Yamas and i bring it to plane with only one 150hp every time! Go away e-tech!
Just imagine how much better your boat would have been with 2 x etecs!!!!!
@@leonsteyn6402 yeah leon I bet he is so sad knowing that evinrude is no longer making them crap motors and finding anyone to work on one in a couple years will be a waste of time as all dealers have been screwed by evinrude and already have no desire to deal with them after just one month.
People this is why we get evinrude g2s there much more efficient and actually powerful
outboards? Caterpillar is where its at!