If it wasn’t fixed you should’ve refused to pay. Why pay for a job that wasn’t done? Think this is more of a video about the shop that ripped you off rather than the motor.
Keep in mind I called in to BRP and asked them where to take it, and they recommended this shop. That this place was the certified Etec dealer and that was the best place to take it. Look man I’m just trying to move forward I’m just trying to warn people that they honestly could care less about you once you’re out of warranty regardless of the circumstances.
@@swag-saltwateranglerguys7767 I hear you man, truly I do. But, every brand-every factory-has at least 1 bad product every Monday! Do not bash an entire brand because you had bad luck! I do hope so that they will fix the issue by replacing the entire outfit...I mean-they should give you a brand new one. But bashing an entire brand is not the way to do it I think. Best of luck bro....oh and please stay healthy! #Coronashitandstuff All the best to you, from Holland!
Stephan Schouten Bro they didn’t even offer me a discount on a brand new one. I went through the manufacture to find out what place to take it to before I got it fixed in the first place. I took extra steps to make sure I didn’t go to the wrong place and spend the money in the wrong spot. Then after I made my claim and explained all that again to them they did nothing. Cmon man. I wasn’t asking for a brand new motor. But they could give me a credit on what I spent towards one.
@@swag-saltwateranglerguys7767 always get a repair estimate and refuse to pay anything they have done that the cost has not been approved by you. At this point you might as well had left the motor there instead of paying 12k dollars and put it on a used one that works.... i mean i feel for you but they scammed you, i would take it the legal way...
Hmmm .... I feel your pain. I have to agree with the above - you went waaaaaaay to far in. I had a very similar problem with a brand-new boat and motor (inboard). Got 5k into repairs just after the warranty expired. Retained an experienced, talented attorney. Settled with the boat manufacturer for $40,000 - AND, the manufacturer had to take the boat back. That's right, eat it. The problem boat was a 29-foot. I took the 40k and plowed it into a 40-foot boat from the same manufacturer. The 40 ran perfectly well and was a real treasure. Sometimes - you really need to get a lawyer. When I retained mine, all of a sudden the manufacturer TOOK ME VERY SERIOUSLY....
How do you figure Fish on? IF/WHEN a company does not, or can not "make it right" then you must either scrap and buy another engine, or pay for repairs; sounds like it might be YOU that are inexperienced. I'm experienced AND lucky as I see it, my Honda just runs and runs and runs and, well you know--it runs. But many friends with other engines have spent far more than this guy chasing their tail. This make them all NOT experienced? Where are you coming from?
In the first 40 seconds, he identifies what caused the problem: ". . . I got some moisture in my gas tank and it ran bad one day . . ." What a lot of people do not understand is that with all these higher tech engines now (injectors in any modern OB are quite different than they were a decade ago), you do not want to get any bad gas, or allow your gas to get water in it (condensation). It's not much different than the high tech engines in cars today. You do not want to get bad gas with them either and with all OB's, if you can stay away from ethanol, do it . . . as the ethanol attracts moisture. It's why they recommend filling up the tank right after use (and use a fuel treatment like Sta-bil, Star Tron, or similar). It's why these modern OB's are much more fuel efficient and less polluting than they used to be. With the new injectors, you should have the mind set to do everything that you can to eliminate fuel problems. And, of course, make sure that the dealer / mechanic that works on your engine provides proof that your engine has been repaired (injectors replaced etc), before you pay them. Dealers (etc) are completely separate companies from the OEM, and it sounds as that is where your problem lies . . . You've got to be smart and do your research on your power plant and who is qualified to work on it nowadays . . . so that you don't get ripped off. Once upon a time, shade-tree mechanics could "fix" most problems with engines (and such). Not anymore - and that applies to cars too. "BRP doesn't care at all". I am sure they do, but they are not responsible for your problem, so why would you think they would reimburse you?
I agree, 12k USD should be good enough for warranty repair. Or else ask all your money back. Just go down with a lawyer for 15 minutes and you will see how they fold.
Most marine workshops dont even need to be certified, its a qualified scam i tell you.... overpriced spare parts and unqualified work. If you find a good one, never let them go....
If you did any research at all on your own, you would have found all the reports of bad or dirty injectors cause your issue. If you spent $100 on the diagnostic software you would have been able to shut each injector off 1 at a time until you found the one that had no change in the way it was running. That would be the bad one. I can say this with experience. One of my twins had the same problem as yours. Did the research online. bought the software I needed to test. determined which one it was. ordered the new part online. Installed new injector and updated the coefficient file that each injector needs with the same diagnostic software. Found youtube videos on how to do it all. Fixed. part was $600. Software was $100. labor was free. I am not a mechanic. Just not afraid to do things myself. I love these engines. Big heavy 25' Hydrasports boat and the thing jumps on plain. 50MPH on the water. You need to learn to use the internet.
Etec are actually the easiest motors to diagnose and service at home of any other brand i know... so i totally agree with you. A cable, software and a little bit of youtube search would take you a very long way before forking out 12k... still that shop sounds awful. They could have at least helped him getting a used working one. At this rate he is going to pay more for them experimenting on it than the motor is actually worth...
@@edgendron3793 I agree they killed him on the price.Suzuki made videos to show you hot to change the impeller I watched it I think they have a lot of do it yourself videos
My lord there are some very unsympathetic posts on here. My old 1992 Evinrude 60hp died last fall and I was just looking at a 75hp E-tec. The more I look online the more I think I might either rebuild the one I have or just go with a Mercury. Thank you for sharing your story. Oh and by the way that 1992 Evinrude I took into the shop in 1996 because it was having trouble idling. They told me they engine was shot and needed overhauling and quoted me some outrageous price. I took it home and it had 138lbs in all 3 cylinders I cleaned the carbs and have been using it for 23 years. Seems these boat shops are master scam artists. Anyway if you ever do get a resolution I am curious to see what you found. Oh and might want to try to take a small gas tank with new fuel in it an hook it to the outboard and see how it runs. Good Luck.
I had a 150 e tec on a bay bought I bought brand new. It left me stranded 3 times! All oil system related! I would never own another one. I finally sent so may emails and calls to evinrude they contacted the dealer I bought it from and told him to swap the engine for a new one. I refused. I only had 10 hours on the boat ! The second it was running and confirmed I sold the boat taking a $4000 loss. Like somebody on here said buy a Yamaha and call it done. Thanks for sharing.
Your right about the miss fire condition. their is a serious problem when you pay good money to have a problem like that fixed , and they give it back to you in the same condition that you brought it in for .Should have never accepted boat back unless there was a water test...and everyone concerned was happy . Sound like someone was throwing parts at a wall hoping for one to stick.
Listening to the rhythm of that engine, it is clear that it is injector problems and that owner was taken for a ride with all those invoices to pay. Anyone who is interested should look at the high precision engineering that exists in those expensive injectors and they are rather delicate in nature to many issues. The companies and the technicians who gave this poor soul all those invoices knew what the fault was but did not tackle it straight away thinking that all people are so gullible. Here is what is happening. *The injector is to be made more tolerant of the imperfection which exists in the petrol we buy from petrol companies. It means that the injector needs to be made from more durable allow to meet the imperfections of the petrol supply from petrol stations. The customer buying petrol from a petrol station has no control over the water due to the condensation in the storage tank at the petrol stations. The filters do not eliminate moisture in petrol and while the engine is working water pass through the injector tiny aperture in small amounts and this is not going to ruin the injector while the engine works. It is when the engine is switched off and laid up for a few days or more when the water becomes an issue as a few droplets of water may exist in the injector and start to form some surface corrosion of some form. The corrosion does three functions, it will cause at the injector tip weakens the " voice coil" or the control coil for the injector action as this is electrical controlled and fuel cooled also. Any corrosion in the injector will inhibit the operation of the injector piston. Note that this is a high-pressure injector which operated at top dead center and not a low-pressure injection system that operates when the exhaust of the two strokes just closes. Here is some information about it. With two strokes there are high pressure and low-pressure injection systems. The E-Tec is a very high-pressure injection system. the FICHT and E-Tec systems are very similar but have some differences. The Ficht system, it is a direct injection system meaning that the fuel is injected directly into the combustion chamber when the piston is close to the top of its stroke. This concept is great for fuel economy, power, and emissions, but there are technical challenges with injecting fuel into a hot, highly compressed combustion chamber. The Ficht system injects the fuel by energizing a solenoid that serves as a plunger. The plunger pushes on a column of fuel that is piped to an injector. So, the order of operations is that an electric current is sent to a solenoid which causes a plunger to push fuel into the combustion chamber. The plunger is returned to its original position by a spring. When the plunger is pulled back to its "rest" position, it is re-filled with fuel ready for the next cycle. The big difference between Ficht & E-tec is that there is no spring in the E-tec system. The plunger is returned to its "rest" position by reversing the current through the solenoid which makes the plunger shuttle in the opposite direction. The reversing polarity design does have several advantages to be sure, including the fact that the plunger can return to position faster, and it is quieter than the old spring system. The E-tec system allows greater control of the solenoid that the Ficht system did. The computer does not allow the plunger to travel its entire stroke and the current is reversed pulling the solenoid back. This allows the computer to not only control when the fuel is injected, but how much fuel is injected. The E-Tec Evinrude has great problems with the material used in the complex injector unit, as it is not so tolerant of the fuel on can buy from the petrol station. If one follows the forums and discussion on E-Tec in any country, the philosophy of the E- Tec and Ficht system are brilliant but their practicality and tolerance to the fuel any customer can buy from petrol stations are still far off from the satisfaction of the customer who is in no position to make perfect petrol with no water or ethanol in it.
So true I would swap inj an see if it moves to another cylinder I know he doesn’t have the computer to self test to find out which one is causing issue but in the shop I’ve gone back to old school diagnostic computer doesn’t do flow rate but if one is bad or causing prob spray some tuner into vst tank with old school fitting hose and run that thru injectors let sit for hr then run it up
This reminds me of a 1978 Volvo I purchase I was a salesman and covered 5 states the car broke down so many times due to an electrical problem the dealer kept replacing parts well I broke down in the middle of cites on Route 95 and anywhere at anytime after just 10 months I took a financial beating and traded for something more reliable this car was not only a nightmare but dangerous to me and my family. In boating your safety comes first not counting the fishing fun you have missed wish you the best.
I had a 2014 G1 250hp. Had water in the fuel at 35hrs. Hit a submerged object 35 miles offshore and had to replace the LU (under warranty)at 330 hrs. SOld the engine at 975hrs with the only repairs ever done was those listed and changing the plugs 2X. Replaced engine with 300hp G2. This is my 4th etec and all have basically been problem free engines. Sorry you had a different story than mine.
you can buy the engine brand new for about 14 rigged..New...Mismatched tires and wheels on the trailer...you can buy a newer...2 -3 model year engine for 6500 on ebay,
I can Evenrude outboards for 30 years up until 2007. Had great luck with them until the Etecs. Total garbage for commercial use. The trouble with these motors is you can’t take the ECU off one and just put on another motor the same. The ECU has to be sent to BRP to be programmed for that specific motor and serial number. If your going to a Yamaha Mercury or a Suzuki do yourself a favour and go Suzuki.
Wasup Fool No I went to source one Marine who is a e-tech dealer. the one they told me to take it to actually lol. Anyway they sent it to brp just like you said problem is I don’t think that was the problem 🤔.... it didn’t work obviously lol
Possible crankshaft seal or crankcase leak? It would still show compression in the combustion chamber. Spray some carb cleaner around the engine when it's running and listen for changes. Also spray bottle with water for possible electrical arcing
You are absolutely being taken for a ride or the dealership mechanic is completely incompetent. I would love to hear what their justification for replacing the EMM is. You can get the diagnostics cable and software for like $15 and you can see everything the dealer does as well as have access to a suite of diagnostic tests. This is almost certainly the injectors and could have been fixed maybe 100-300 bucks DIY or like 1000-1500 at a stealership. Water in gas causes problems on any engine of any year or make, buy and install a $30 water/fuel separator and save yourself from future headaches.
@@swag-saltwateranglerguys7767 Mechanical contrivences fail, as do electrical and electronic. Your beef is with the dealer who are ripping you off. But getting BPR involved may help motivate the dealer to make good. You may even consider consulting a lawyer. If it helps you feel a little better, BPR won't be getting my business now.
@@chrisp2876 I am just trying to get them to hold Source one marine THAT THEY TOLD ME TO GO TO accountable. Thanks for the comment. Subscribe if you like fishing videos.
How ridiculous would this all be if it was all just a primer bulb gone bad that collapses under the vacuum of the fuel pump. My outboard was having misfiring issues and bogging out. New primer bulb, problem fixed. From there on I alway carry a new brimer bulb with me.
So, you either got bad gas from a station, used gas with ethanol (hygroscopic), or you have a leak in your tank/fuel lines... did you ever bother to figure out which of those it is?
I would not have paid anyone until it was water tested. I would tell them up front that this is the way it is or go somewhere else. Evinrude used to be one of the best outboards made. Ever since OMC screwed them up and went bankrupt, BRP buying the brand, and still hearing of problems, I don't trust them. A Mercury man now, and not looking back. Yamaha and Suzuki are my next picks. I hate it for you. It is a hassle and expense that can drive you crazy.
It absolutely sounds like they seen you coming and sure sounds like some more dirty fuel to me. Not being a macanic or even ever having $6100 to throw at somthing I would try polishing the fuel and cleaning the injectors .
a honest and decent mechanic is hard to find these days. this is why i work on my own stuff. i replace the water pump and piston rings all at the same time on my 2 stroke Yamaha outboard that cost me 100 dollars and little of my time.
Its not the engine that has the problem. Its the workshop. Bad workshops are an engines worse enemy... even abuse does not compare to a bad workshop. I bought a seemingly good 115 Evinrude and when i went down to details the workshop had done EVERYTHING wrong... i had to change plug and index (1 was not indexed, 1 was NOT tighthend) had to change all filters that they ignored on every single year service for 10 years, i had to re-grease and change gear oil because they had used the wrong stuff, they had overtorqued all cover bolts and broke all fittings, i had to epoxy and fix all of them. Now it runs and purs like a kitten. No problems at all. If you buy a Yamaha DONT TAKE IT TO THE SAME incompetent workshop you had your Etec. Good luck.
Well, it's sad you have some bad luck with your engine. But...one question remains now...after more than 1 year...did you get it fixed, or did you spend another 12K on it?
since it wasn't under warranty Before taking it to someone, did you try the simple things? Did you change the plugs? do you have the right plugs in it? how about the wires did you replace them? Have you tried a another gas can? get a gallon but Sea Foam in there and follow those directions if it sat before you got it. they might have used car gas and the lines or carbs have a tiny blockage. it doesn't take much at all.
I agree with your logic here. Remember to index the plugs correctly. Open end of the electrode should face injectors. It's common to need up to 12 spark plugs to put new plugs in a V6 etec
@@puzer1 certified dealer does not necessarily mean quality service. Just saying. It's easy enough to check if it has bebecause usually the technician that installs the plugs will mark the plugs with sharpie to indicate the direction the electrode will face.
I’m a marine mechanics, where I work we’re selling/maintaining outboards,also a Evinrude dealership. Those g2 and + are the easiest outboards to work on and diagnose. These are very high tech engines and reliable as fuck is maintained well!! You bought a used etec with 400h on it ..did the ex owner really took care @ the engine or did he abused it? Ran it carelessly while having an issue? How can you be 100% sure ? 400h ain’t much if maintained, but 400h with a dumb owner = 1500h+ lol .. when you bought the engine, was it still under warranty?
Friend had one under warranty and after the fifth time going back to the dealer replacing the ecu fixed it. Less than 50 hours total time. Him and the sea tow capt became friends after 5 tows. Lol. My main complaint is once it threw a code the motor would not run again, not even an emergency limp mode and for that reason I'll stick with Yamaha.
Every engine in the world can have something break, in your case it sounds like there has been 1 problem the entire time but you have had a bunch of incompetent mechanics that are part changers wasting your time and money. I do not believe Evinrude makes a bad engine at all.. I do however think that it is possible they are not providing the proper training for their dealers.
So he had bad fuel, misfire on cylinders and did anyone look at the injectors? Sounds like some bad diags not the motor. quick fix, move around the plugs, wires, coils even the injectors and see if the misfire moves. Bam 1200 grand please.
as simple as it sounds check the install on your plugs ...the gap needs to face the injector port take the plugs out and mark the gap side with a marker and reinstall with the mark facing the injector port..I learned this the hard way my etec was doing the exact same thing
You spent $ 12.000 on an outboard engine and it don't run right ?? First off , what the hell man $ 12.000 and you SPENT that much !! Simple fix from day one , here ya go , drain or pump out all fuel into a clean plastic gas tank or several tanks to hold it all , attach a AIR HOSE to the fuel injector line going to the engine and REMOVE all spark plugs then crank engine over for 5 seconds , then wait ten seconds then crank over for 5 seconds more , unhook air then reconnect fuel line with new o-rings and put fresh gas in tank also pour 2 bottles of SEA FOAM in tank , now unhook battery to engine , absolutely no voltage going to engine , wait 10 minutes hook battery up , crank and run at 1/4 throttle with water hose connected to engine , run for several minutes cut off engine , now take it to the lake and enjoy it , it's fixed , my price to repair that problem $100 bill ! Those are great engines and very dependable all you gotta do is feed them fresh gas and keep the main lubrication points oiled up !
Wow sorry that you are dealing with this issue. It sounds like it is an injector issue or it may be something as simple as a fouled spark plug. My cousin bought an old bass boat that had a mercury 150 two stroke on it and it ran exactly like what yours is doing. We did a compression check on each cylinder and all but one had 150psi. One cylinder had 0psi and after we removed the cylinder head there was a hole in the piston. He looked online and he swapped the whole power head on that motor. It was fine after that. Please keep us posted as to what your issue is with your motor.
I haven’t done a follow-up video yet but basically it left me stranded. I’m hoping to resend this video to BRP and have them do something about it being it’s been so successful
This kind of repair nightmare is what i dread the most. I have been stung like u once but not as much and does give u many sleepless nights and know how u feel. Incompetent workers just replacing everything are not mechanics. I can replace most things on my outboard except for the powerhead and a real mechanic will properly diagnose the issue before repairs and $$. Only exception is when u have an intermittent fault and then u have to just try anything.
I see they put a couple injectors in from what I could see of the report, but have the reeds been replaced or inspected at least? I have seen cracked and broken reeds on this vintage of etec 200-250 which cause rough idle and missing.
Gary B I’m not sure buddy I’m not a technician but I do have all the printouts. I have them scanned I got to figure out how to link them to this video I’m kind of new at this RUclips stuff.
Did you get it fixed. I think timing is off. Get 1-2 gallons of gas and a can of Seafoam. It might help. I store my boats outside with a cover for much of the year in Minnesota.
Middle of North America I did not I am purchasing a new motor next month. I’m thinking the mercury 250 pro xs selling the old eTech for 1000 to a boat mechanic my mom knows lol. He offered to look at it to fix it and I told him no way bro don’t even look at that butter unless you want to buy it. 😂
they charged you $6100.00 to FIX it. its not fixed, take it back and make them fix it at "their" expense. don't be a sucker man. take them to court if need be. it's all bull shit if it ain't fixed, sounds like they aren't qualified to work on an e-tec engine.
Hope you finally figured it out. If you still have this motor. The problem is the Reed Valve, 3 and 5. They get loose and can actually be ingested and bye bye engine! When loose it makes the engines think the cylinders are heating up.. I've been digging a lot on these engines. Some posted in 2019 with the same exact issue you have and after almost a year... He finally got to the bottom of it.. Good Luck!
I can't get a trusted mech for any small motor item where I live here in North Texas. I take things in, describe the problem, tell them what I want and don't want done, then when I go to pick it up they have invariably replaced parts that did not need replacing, that I specifically told the service writer not to replace... and they charge me for replacing a complete assembly, only to discover they kept half the assembly and only replaced some parts of it, though I paid for the whole shebang the decided to save their time and parts whilst charging me full price. I think the only way around this is to get a part time job as a service writer so as to learn all the tricks they use to NOT fix the problem while still spending loads of YOUR MONEY on stuff that will not correct the original complaint. Service writers who get paid on commission of the total bill are guaranteed to NOT FIX the problem, because the continuation of parts and labor expense is what keeps them in commission checks. Until customers understand where their money is going, until they get a firm written and enforceable contract for work to be done and have that contract signed and in hand before any work starts, we all can expect to be overcharged and under satisfied time and again. It is a scam, one of the worst, and it permeates every mechanic system that uses service writers to generate sales of time and parts. If they don't just want to replace modules say NO WAY unless they are willing to RENT a new module for a day to see if that corrects the problem, otherwise the customer replaces part after part after part and no one ever can say when it will end.
Sounds like you did everything besides clean the moisture from the tank lol? Also if you did do that maybe your ran the fuel to rich? Causing the spark plugs to foul? Anything around fuel or what makes cylinders fire lol
Comments about not paying till its fixed are pretty stupid. They dont water test cause your boat dont leave till its paid for. This is where knowing your shop comes in but they cant have a mechanic working all day for free and he shouldn't just be stabbing at it either. Try that get a warranty in writing shit and see how that goes. Basically youll be dragging your boat from shop to shop wasting everones time. At some point be best to fix it yourself. Probably electrical. They can be hard to track down if its intermittent.
I own two etecs, essentially the same, but mine are 225s. First, I am sorry for your problems. I had similar fuel issues on my low hour engines, esp the starboard engine. The guy I had bought the boat from had disabled the water/fuel alarm and I toasted my injectors on the engine. Took me 6 mo to get the injectors--$3k and then another $2k to put them in and get them set up. Replaced/upgraded the fuel pump too. You can pull the injectors yourself, plenty of videos on how to do this and test them yourself. Make sure you MARK each injector as they are not interchangeable. If the injectors are bad, well, the cure is more money for new injectors. As for your bad gas, I installed a clear goldenrod separator ahead of the first fuel separator system. The goldenrod is clear and has a quick release valve at the bottom. Saves you from having to unscrew the metal filter to check for contamination. Also remember, if you get the fuel alarm, both filters are filled with water and you need to get this cleaned out ASAP. The water in ur injectors is like acid. Eats those things up. Unscrew and dump your filter in the back of the boat, then pull off your engine cover and unscrew and dump this filter as well. remember to be careful with the filter under the cowling, it has the two wires that sense water. Do not bend or damage these. Once the water is cleared, immediately start your engine back up and let it run for 10-15 mins. That's a nice boat, I would get comfortable with pulling the engine apart and putting it back together. People are getting less and less enthusiastic about working my engines, so it may behoove you to get in there and take things apart. You will learn a lot in the process! --and drop parts in the water.
You need to find a Mechanic that knows how to Repair your Evinrude. I have never Owned an Etec but...I have Owned Evinrude and Johnson Outboards , Different H.P. sizes and configurations and have Never had problems. Whatever you decide to go with as your Next brand of Outboard , Best of luck to you.
If you still have any trust in great power an fuel economy that this engine has take off the injectors number them to the cylinders send them out to cleaned an tested Fla fuel inj service in Saint Petersburg
Go to this website,etecownersgroup.com ,The people there are very knowledgeable,helpful and kind.I believe they also have BRP's ear.If anybody on this planet can help you they can.If they can't help you .you might as well buy a new motor and start over.
Thanks for showing us. I would have been absolutely furious !!! If they tried that with me and held my boat ransom I'd probably have done something I'd regret.. I feel for you bro..
I bought a brand new 2007 Etec. It always had an over heating problem. Out of warranty I replaced the whole port side of engine head. The mechanic said it had a white scaling inside port head. Said he never saw that before. It seemed to have corrected the problem. I think this had been my problem since new. Much more to my story with the trouble shooting and would be more than happy to share my info with you if you want to discuss. If I have any problems this year I’m selling and putting on a Yamaha
My buddy my buddy bought an E-Tec and it didn't even last a year he was still making payments same issues same problems they made him buy a new computer and everything he didn't even make nothing but three payments on the engine and the engine ran shit those attacks are garbage they do not run like they're supposed to they start out good but they're really garbage you get over 200 hours or even 150 hours and you already start having problems don't spend your money on Evinrude there are garbage did he check do not work worth a crap
Poppa P This guy knows exactly what I just went through it’s ridiculous dealing with these people at brp. Now listen my motor was not under warranty however when I called BRP I asked them which dealership to take it to for the repair they told me source one marina. After my boat was not repaired and I spent the money at the repair facility THEY Recommended. That’s why I submitted a complaint to BRP and they did nothing repeatedly and then basically told me I was on my own 12 grand later. I made this video to warn people. The customer service is terrible the product is prone to problems be aware.
I have been in boat dealerships that had snotty attitudes. They only provided quality service only if you were there to drop a lot of money, otherwise they wanted you to get off their lot.
Yes they told me there was nothing they were going to do for me. Because my motor was out of warranty. They turned my claim down. Not to mention they never got back to me ever I had to call them multiple times over and over and over again just to get simple answers. I’m still very upset if you would like any follow-up videos about my motor I’m taking it out this weekend and will be more than happy to share how it starts up and idles.
I am having a very similar problem with a Yamaha F150. Running rough, wont rev a as high as it used too. Low hrs ( around 140). Perfect compression, passes leak down. First mechanic did complete service - no fix -. Said it was a temp sensor - no fix. Did the ECU, $1200 - no fix. Said it was the TPS was out of spec and needed adjustments. The mechanic adjusted then took it to the lake for a test run. He said he got it to 5100 rpm but that the prop was wrong and the motor is under sized .... blah, blah, blah. I took it straight to the lake, engine wouldn’t get over 4200 rpm. The boat used to do 43mph at 5400rpm with the same prop. It’s at the second mechanic now. I see the comments about people saying how it’s your fault for letting a company rip you off, that’s BS!! How is it the boat owners vault for depending on a boat mechanic to fix there boat. Not everyone is an expert on outboards. He’ll most BOAT mechanics don’t know what to do if there is no code given when they run diagnostics. Seeing what you’ve been through worries me about my situation, did you ever get to the bottom of your problem?
It's not the motor it the tech working on motor I love my 300 etec mine not under warranty either I do my own work. Well my brother does it with me I have evinrude computer program to run my own diagnostics start from basic check spark no spark go from there if spark is good then check fuel ,compression first so on and so forth if I can't fix it then I take to markey marine in Key largo to dave good luck did you fix it yet JT
With all due Respect, you don't sound like an experienced boat owner to me. #1. NEVER pay for repairs until you have tested the boat at the repair facility. #2. ALWAYS get a lawyer if they can't fix it 100%. *See my story elsewhere here.... *You make a decent video, but you've got a Lot to learn about boat dealers. P.S. The majority of mechanics at boat dealers are, in reality, auto mechanics who were looking for work and just happened upon the boat job. You must Verify that anyone touching your engine has been through a Factory training program. I'm not blowing air here - I've been on the water for 65 years. Fact.
P.S. The next time you have a serious engine issue, Always call the Factory Directly. Make nice, use manners, tell your story, and ask the Factory contact where there is a Factory-trained tech near you. Man, these dealers just took you for a ride.
Do you know how the Etec works? Its a 2 stroke but uses high pressure direct injectors mounted on the head, maybe they got screwed with the bad fuel. But what the hell you paid a lot of money for nothing.
Best thing is to turn the camera on unbuckle it from the transom and kick it off and let it rot right where it fell! And tag Evinrude in this video when you do it!!! Make a movement anti Evinrude movement that is!! Who wants to buy high priced 2 stroke oil plus gas anymore? No one buy a four stroke way less over head cost to run and better on the environment as well!!
Rogers’ Lawn Care I am sending the link of this video back to the claims department and I’m going to CC the top seven people on the board at BRP I have all their personal email addresses. I started this video because of that my friend that’s what this is about.
You bought a used motor and had issues..... big deal..... my buddy has ran an e-tec for 10 years without ever having a single problem.... I have an 11 year old merc that is giving me fits, but I bought it used so I’m not crying. I don’t understand putting 12k into a used motor though.... surely they gave you an idea of the cost before you gave the ok for the work?
Chris Harris It Accumulated over that three year time period. Each visit was supposed to be a service in the marina said they could fix it and then the chase begin again each time. Two separate E tech dealers. This particular trip was source one marine in Hudson Florida
You payed 6100 dollars and they didn’t fix it? Would you pay an electrician to change a broken light for a broken light? No so why would you pay someone that didn’t fix the problem ?
what if it was $3.00 spark plug? I had this happen to a Billy goat brush cutter. replaced everything except the spark plugs because it looked "new". Turned out to be the plugs.
Real mechanics dont guess and paying that much it should be running with no problems. They are just parts guessing, some of the listed has nothing to do with a engine miss like that. I would report the company who worked on it to the better business bureau. They are obviously running a service scam. People that know absolutely nothing about engines can do what they did. At the same time you seem very careless with what your paying for. What the hell are you paying them for they did nothing but took your money.
@@swag-saltwateranglerguys7767 At least they will give you a known flat rate before you place your bet, if you go for a double or nothing and loose that's on you.
The Casting Channel you said you spent 12k trying to fix it you can get a 250hp suzuki for 15k 16k I paid 10k for a 175hp Suzuki from dusky marine Or try outboard specialties in Pompano
@@swag-saltwateranglerguys7767 and you should take fuel lines off at primer bulb and check your fuel for water you could have a hole in your tank.i also was chasing down problems because of a hole in the gas tank for year and a half I found out after I repowered and broke down first day because of water in the gas .thats after boat center of ft Lauderdale said they pressure tested the tank which they didn't .
Have you changed the fuel tank? You had moisture in the fuel tank how? If you haven’t fixed that yet your not gonna run right! You didn’t mention having that fixed
Read the leds on the emm get a evinrude shop manual or find some body that can scan computer I do all my own work on my motor if I can't then I take to David at markey marine in KeyLargo Fla love my 300 etec couldn't give me a four stroke only one I would even consider is a zuki best warranty than etec 6 yrs top to bottom trying to get my kid to dump that merc and get zuki 200 hp JT do you still have your etec ?
The Casting Channel philip turn Key on not starting have seen your leds on emm light 1 3 4 should come light 1 is top light with water on yours is a 07 mine is 08 with new power head full dress by Evinrude in 2010 anyway crank engine until running 2 seconds all lights should be on then turn off in sequence 1 2 3 and last 4 your motor and my motor are same Evinrude shop manual so above and let me know if any lights r on or blinking while Key on or runningthanks I'll sub that way I'll be notified when you comment or email at southernwreckers@gmail.com I'll see if I can help you out I'll run it by my brother what the lights r doing thanks John
The Casting Channel thank black out your personal info my brother is meticulous when he works on something he will read your report and think about it if you could tomorrow just turn Key on and see if lights 134 come on or blinking that is first step and let me know in e mail thanks do compression check on 3 and 5 cylinder run on water and check lights while running thanks need these answers first JT
At first its a $12,000 fix, then it drops to $6,000 when you turn the key...? And a "little moisture?" How could you find a "LITTLE" moisture? If you can find moisture in your fuel, its ALOT of moisture. Also, there are water separating fuel filters that would have stopped this from happening, they cost about 50 bucks. Its funny how people perceive things. YOU run bad/water infiltrated gasoline in your $18,000 engine, then blame the the engine company? The repair techs didn't/couldn't fix your mistake and again you blame the engine manufacture? This is not an Evinrude problem, this isn't a warranty issue, this is your problem stop bashing a decent company because you messed up, they didn't run the bad gas in your engine, they didn't tell the technicians not to fix your engine, you need to take some blame for your mistake, and then hold the repair shop responsible for throwing useless parts on your engine and not fixing it. If you run bad gas/water through any engine, no matter which make, and it will have long lasting residual problems.
steven merchant it has a water separator it has all that. It’s a ranger bay 2200 tournament fishing boat it’s fully loaded. I stated that at first I want to golf coast marine and then over time that I’ve owned the boat it cost me about 12 grand chasing that specific problem. The boat still ran thiugh so I still used it. There just comes a time where you need to stop I got pissed and made this video lol. I’m not dropping another dollar into that motor in care how simple it is
MIGHT HAVE FOUND THE "PROBLEM" it seems from what I was told it's not really an uncommon problem....A 2 cycle doesn't use any values.....BUT there is a reed value system in place. From what I was told. If you do NOT use the recommend oil...it can cause it to carbon over...and hence cause it to run rough at idea....The suggestion was, find and clean the reed, and use whatever oil Evinrude says works best and might fix the problem. hope this help...I'm really surprised Evinrude couldn't tell you this....they have to know this is a possible problem.
Too bad. Sounds like bad mechanics. Have a fleet of etecs and ran into 1 issue that Evinrude covered out of warranty. I do have 1 mechanic I trust and have 1100+ hours on our 2006 250etec gen1. before you put a new motor on have the tank cleaned. Also i think the problem is the plugs. Could have had a failure or crap due to the water and i wonder if the plugs were replaced. If they were replaced are they INDEXED properly.
DARKHAWK0092 The next thing they wanted to do was go inside the powerhead and check the sleeves of the cylinder heads they think one of them might’ve been rotated. Sounded like another six grand to me so I said no
@@swag-saltwateranglerguys7767 I'm sure uve heard it in the comments already but next time you take it to a shop. At least come to an agreement that you wont pay full until you test it. You could have easily gota new motor my now.
Is that hose hooked up to the flush port? You can't run this engine on the hose tilted or you will get water in the cylinders. Must be completely vertical.
whewdoggie1 I got rid of E tech and I’m looking to re-power with a Suzuki most likely. At this point I will never talk to another guy took representative ever. Unless they want to give me my money back lol
If it wasn’t fixed you should’ve refused to pay. Why pay for a job that wasn’t done? Think this is more of a video about the shop that ripped you off rather than the motor.
Keep in mind I called in to BRP and asked them where to take it, and they recommended this shop. That this place was the certified Etec dealer and that was the best place to take it. Look man I’m just trying to move forward I’m just trying to warn people that they honestly could care less about you once you’re out of warranty regardless of the circumstances.
@@swag-saltwateranglerguys7767 I hear you man, truly I do. But, every brand-every factory-has at least 1 bad product every Monday! Do not bash an entire brand because you had bad luck! I do hope so that they will fix the issue by replacing the entire outfit...I mean-they should give you a brand new one. But bashing an entire brand is not the way to do it I think. Best of luck bro....oh and please stay healthy! #Coronashitandstuff All the best to you, from Holland!
Stephan Schouten Bro they didn’t even offer me a discount on a brand new one. I went through the manufacture to find out what place to take it to before I got it fixed in the first place. I took extra steps to make sure I didn’t go to the wrong place and spend the money in the wrong spot. Then after I made my claim and explained all that again to them they did nothing. Cmon man. I wasn’t asking for a brand new motor. But they could give me a credit on what I spent towards one.
@@swag-saltwateranglerguys7767 always get a repair estimate and refuse to pay anything they have done that the cost has not been approved by you. At this point you might as well had left the motor there instead of paying 12k dollars and put it on a used one that works.... i mean i feel for you but they scammed you, i would take it the legal way...
If you supposedly spent 12k in repairs on an outboard to no avail you are far from being an 'experienced boat owner.' You are what we call PROFIT.
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Hahahahaha this is somewhat true. I can put you guys on fish though
Hmmm .... I feel your pain.
I have to agree with the above - you went waaaaaaay to far in.
I had a very similar problem with a brand-new boat and motor (inboard).
Got 5k into repairs just after the warranty expired.
Retained an experienced, talented attorney. Settled with the boat manufacturer for $40,000 - AND, the manufacturer had to take the boat back. That's right, eat it.
The problem boat was a 29-foot. I took the 40k and plowed it into a 40-foot boat from the same manufacturer.
The 40 ran perfectly well and was a real treasure.
Sometimes - you really need to get a lawyer. When I retained mine, all of a sudden the manufacturer TOOK ME VERY SERIOUSLY....
How do you figure Fish on? IF/WHEN a company does not, or can not "make it right" then you must either scrap and buy another engine, or pay for repairs; sounds like it might be YOU that are inexperienced. I'm experienced AND lucky as I see it, my Honda just runs and runs and runs and, well you know--it runs. But many friends with other engines have spent far more than this guy chasing their tail. This make them all NOT experienced? Where are you coming from?
In the first 40 seconds, he identifies what caused the problem: ". . . I got some moisture in my gas tank and it ran bad one day . . ." What a lot of people do not understand is that with all these higher tech engines now (injectors in any modern OB are quite different than they were a decade ago), you do not want to get any bad gas, or allow your gas to get water in it (condensation).
It's not much different than the high tech engines in cars today. You do not want to get bad gas with them either and with all OB's, if you can stay away from ethanol, do it . . . as the ethanol attracts moisture. It's why they recommend filling up the tank right after use (and use a fuel treatment like Sta-bil, Star Tron, or similar). It's why these modern OB's are much more fuel efficient and less polluting than they used to be. With the new injectors, you should have the mind set to do everything that you can to eliminate fuel problems.
And, of course, make sure that the dealer / mechanic that works on your engine provides proof that your engine has been repaired (injectors replaced etc), before you pay them. Dealers (etc) are completely separate companies from the OEM, and it sounds as that is where your problem lies . . .
You've got to be smart and do your research on your power plant and who is qualified to work on it nowadays . . . so that you don't get ripped off. Once upon a time, shade-tree mechanics could "fix" most problems with engines (and such). Not anymore - and that applies to cars too.
"BRP doesn't care at all". I am sure they do, but they are not responsible for your problem, so why would you think they would reimburse you?
Transom bolts are to tight loosen them up take to water and run wide open until it flys off the boat.. problem solved
Jessy Stine Best advice yet
Jessy Stine good one,I just love it 👍🇦🇺
Jessy Stine , You said what we all thought.
you got taken to the cleaners, you should never have paid that bill
I won't b buying an E-tech now. Thanks
Why pay if the work wasn't done? Require proof the problem is fixed before forking over payment, or require warranty on work in writing?
I agree, 12k USD should be good enough for warranty repair. Or else ask all your money back. Just go down with a lawyer for 15 minutes and you will see how they fold.
This video almost makes me want to open a marine mechanic shop and get you as a customer I'd be rich
Tom rizzo lmao
@B lol good comment I missed this one.
Right! Guys a fucking idiot! Who the fuck spends all this money on an engine just go buy a new one at that point 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
Most marine workshops dont even need to be certified, its a qualified scam i tell you.... overpriced spare parts and unqualified work. If you find a good one, never let them go....
Hold on here. You are upset at Evinrude due the incompetency of the dealers? I’m really confused.
If you did any research at all on your own, you would have found all the reports of bad or dirty injectors cause your issue. If you spent $100 on the diagnostic software you would have been able to shut each injector off 1 at a time until you found the one that had no change in the way it was running. That would be the bad one. I can say this with experience. One of my twins had the same problem as yours. Did the research online. bought the software I needed to test. determined which one it was. ordered the new part online. Installed new injector and updated the coefficient file that each injector needs with the same diagnostic software. Found youtube videos on how to do it all. Fixed. part was $600. Software was $100. labor was free. I am not a mechanic. Just not afraid to do things myself. I love these engines. Big heavy 25' Hydrasports boat and the thing jumps on plain. 50MPH on the water. You need to learn to use the internet.
Etec are actually the easiest motors to diagnose and service at home of any other brand i know... so i totally agree with you. A cable, software and a little bit of youtube search would take you a very long way before forking out 12k... still that shop sounds awful. They could have at least helped him getting a used working one. At this rate he is going to pay more for them experimenting on it than the motor is actually worth...
Dude if you spent 12000 on repairs you are WHACKO 😂
This Is Me Can’t u see It’s a CZ Aren’t we all
@@swag-saltwateranglerguys7767 naw man I would have traded that turd and got a Suzuki or Honda 🙈
This is total b.s you got hosed ..I can fix my own motors
@@edgendron3793 I agree they killed him on the price.Suzuki made videos to show you hot to change the impeller I watched it I think they have a lot of do it yourself videos
ed gendron try fixing a etec is like working on a mercury
..." I really know what I'm looking for when I buy a used boat"...proceeds to buy an Etec...
puzer1 You my friend have one the best comment of the year award 🥇
@The Casting Channel won*
puzer1 hahahaha yamaha or honda all the way
And pulls it with a dodge…
Sounds like your water, I mean contaminated fuel caused an issue and you have been going to incompetant mechanics.
T.J. Johnson I feel like they were very incompetent mechanics.
First thing came to mind was contaminated fuel
@@bullerman2 or a bad cable ground or the cable itself is full of water
Sounds like a problem with the owner (water in gas) then repair shops. Does not sound like it's a problem inherent in the motor.
Worsel That’s how I felt 2 shops ago
Are your spark plugs indexed correctly? You are getting screwed by the outboard shop. Hope you got it sorted out.
Have you had them change an injector yet? If you had a bad fuel issue its kind of the only thing it can be man......
yes i have still no go.
But did you put the injector file in when you changed the injectors
My lord there are some very unsympathetic posts on here. My old 1992 Evinrude 60hp died last fall and I was just looking at a 75hp E-tec. The more I look online the more I think I might either rebuild the one I have or just go with a Mercury. Thank you for sharing your story. Oh and by the way that 1992 Evinrude I took into the shop in 1996 because it was having trouble idling. They told me they engine was shot and needed overhauling and quoted me some outrageous price. I took it home and it had 138lbs in all 3 cylinders I cleaned the carbs and have been using it for 23 years. Seems these boat shops are master scam artists. Anyway if you ever do get a resolution I am curious to see what you found. Oh and might want to try to take a small gas tank with new fuel in it an hook it to the outboard and see how it runs. Good Luck.
How could you possibly pay a bill on a problem like that with out listening to it run. Your the problem not that motor.😂
MrPALEHORSERIDER lol
@@swag-saltwateranglerguys7767 your a fucking IDIOT its not lol
start pulling plug wires to see what cylinders arnt firing. should be a easy diagnosis.
I had a 150 e tec on a bay bought I bought brand new. It left me stranded 3 times! All oil system related! I would never own another one. I finally sent so may emails and calls to evinrude they contacted the dealer I bought it from and told him to swap the engine for a new one. I refused. I only had 10 hours on the boat ! The second it was running and confirmed I sold the boat taking a $4000 loss. Like somebody on here said buy a Yamaha and call it done. Thanks for sharing.
I. Have a 1985 115 merk and I took great care of her and she still runs AWESOME
You could have bought a new motor. !!!! Give it up. !!!!
Your right about the miss fire condition. their is a serious problem when you pay good money to have a problem like that fixed , and they give it back to you in the same condition that you brought it in for .Should have never accepted boat back unless there was a water test...and everyone concerned was happy . Sound like someone was throwing parts at a wall hoping for one to stick.
At my shop if we diag something and say you need this part and you buy it and it doesnt fix the problem, we pay for it because we diagnosed it wrong
Listening to the rhythm of that engine, it is clear that it is injector problems and that owner was taken for a ride with all those invoices to pay.
Anyone who is interested should look at the high precision engineering that exists in those expensive injectors and they are rather delicate in nature to many issues. The companies and the technicians who gave this poor soul all those invoices knew what the fault was but did not tackle it straight away thinking that all people are so gullible.
Here is what is happening.
*The injector is to be made more tolerant of the imperfection which exists in the petrol we buy from petrol companies. It means that the injector needs to be made from more durable allow to meet the imperfections of the petrol supply from petrol stations.
The customer buying petrol from a petrol station has no control over the water due to the condensation in the storage tank at the petrol stations. The filters do not eliminate moisture in petrol and while the engine is working water pass through the injector tiny aperture in small amounts and this is not going to ruin the injector while the engine works. It is when the engine is switched off and laid up for a few days or more when the water becomes an issue as a few droplets of water may exist in the injector and start to form some surface corrosion of some form.
The corrosion does three functions, it will cause at the injector tip weakens the " voice coil" or the control coil for the injector action as this is electrical controlled and fuel cooled also. Any corrosion in the injector will inhibit the operation of the injector piston. Note that this is a high-pressure injector which operated at top dead center and not a low-pressure injection system that operates when the exhaust of the two strokes just closes.
Here is some information about it.
With two strokes there are high pressure and low-pressure injection systems. The E-Tec is a very high-pressure injection system. the FICHT and E-Tec systems are very similar but have some differences. The Ficht system, it is a direct injection system meaning that the fuel is injected directly into the combustion chamber when the piston is close to the top of its stroke. This concept is great for fuel economy, power, and emissions, but there are technical challenges with injecting fuel into a hot, highly compressed combustion chamber. The Ficht system injects the fuel by energizing a solenoid that serves as a plunger. The plunger pushes on a column of fuel that is piped to an injector. So, the order of operations is that an electric current is sent to a solenoid which causes a plunger to push fuel into the combustion chamber. The plunger is returned to its original position by a spring. When the plunger is pulled back to its "rest" position, it is re-filled with fuel ready for the next cycle. The big difference between Ficht & E-tec is that there is no spring in the E-tec system. The plunger is returned to its "rest" position by reversing the current through the solenoid which makes the plunger shuttle in the opposite direction. The reversing polarity design does have several advantages to be sure, including the fact that the plunger can return to position faster, and it is quieter than the old spring system. The E-tec system allows greater control of the solenoid that the Ficht system did. The computer does not allow the plunger to travel its entire stroke and the current is reversed pulling the solenoid back. This allows the computer to not only control when the fuel is injected, but how much fuel is injected.
The E-Tec Evinrude has great problems with the material used in the complex injector unit, as it is not so tolerant of the fuel on can buy from the petrol station. If one follows the forums and discussion on E-Tec in any country, the philosophy of the E- Tec and Ficht system are brilliant but their practicality and tolerance to the fuel any customer can buy from petrol stations are still far off from the satisfaction of the customer who is in no position to make perfect petrol with no water or ethanol in it.
perhaps he is putting ethanol fuel in it.
It would effect all 6 not just 2
So true I would swap inj an see if it moves to another cylinder I know he doesn’t have the computer to self test to find out which one is causing issue but in the shop I’ve gone back to old school diagnostic computer doesn’t do flow rate but if one is bad or causing prob spray some tuner into vst tank with old school fitting hose and run that thru injectors let sit for hr then run it up
This reminds me of a 1978 Volvo I purchase I was a salesman and covered 5 states the car broke down so many times due to an electrical problem the dealer kept replacing parts well I broke down in the middle of cites on Route 95 and anywhere at anytime after just 10 months I took a financial beating and traded for something more reliable this car was not only a nightmare but dangerous to me and my family.
In boating your safety comes first not counting the fishing fun you have missed wish you the best.
Bought mine 4 yrs ago. Ran well for 1 season and has been in the shop every year multiple times ever since.
I had a 2014 G1 250hp. Had water in the fuel at 35hrs. Hit a submerged object 35 miles offshore and had to replace the LU (under warranty)at 330 hrs. SOld the engine at 975hrs with the only repairs ever done was those listed and changing the plugs 2X. Replaced engine with 300hp G2. This is my 4th etec and all have basically been problem free engines. Sorry you had a different story than mine.
you can buy the engine brand new for about 14 rigged..New...Mismatched tires and wheels on the trailer...you can buy a newer...2 -3 model year engine for 6500 on ebay,
I can Evenrude outboards for 30 years up until 2007. Had great luck with them until the Etecs. Total garbage for commercial use. The trouble with these motors is you can’t take the ECU off one and just put on another motor the same. The ECU has to be sent to BRP to be programmed for that specific motor and serial number. If your going to a Yamaha Mercury or a Suzuki do yourself a favour and go Suzuki.
Wasup Fool No I went to source one Marine who is a e-tech dealer. the one they told me to take it to actually lol. Anyway they sent it to brp just like you said problem is I don’t think that was the problem 🤔.... it didn’t work obviously lol
Possible crankshaft seal or crankcase leak? It would still show compression in the combustion chamber. Spray some carb cleaner around the engine when it's running and listen for changes. Also spray bottle with water for possible electrical arcing
Bart Hutchison thanks for the tips Bart.
Did you post this for the sole purpose of eliciting negative comments?
Lol no but that seems to be what it’s turned into.
You are absolutely being taken for a ride or the dealership mechanic is completely incompetent. I would love to hear what their justification for replacing the EMM is. You can get the diagnostics cable and software for like $15 and you can see everything the dealer does as well as have access to a suite of diagnostic tests. This is almost certainly the injectors and could have been fixed maybe 100-300 bucks DIY or like 1000-1500 at a stealership. Water in gas causes problems on any engine of any year or make, buy and install a $30 water/fuel separator and save yourself from future headaches.
Tim Lukacik I know I was taken for a ride. Very upset and thanks for the comment. I’m sure Brp is watching this video
@@swag-saltwateranglerguys7767 Mechanical contrivences fail, as do electrical and electronic. Your beef is with the dealer who are ripping you off. But getting BPR involved may help motivate the dealer to make good. You may even consider consulting a lawyer. If it helps you feel a little better, BPR won't be getting my business now.
@@chrisp2876 I am just trying to get them to hold Source one marine THAT THEY TOLD ME TO GO TO accountable. Thanks for the comment. Subscribe if you like fishing videos.
@@swag-saltwateranglerguys7767 Do you have water/fuel separator installed??
Igor Kizem I have one installed
How ridiculous would this all be if it was all just a primer bulb gone bad that collapses under the vacuum of the fuel pump.
My outboard was having misfiring issues and bogging out.
New primer bulb, problem fixed.
From there on I alway carry a new brimer bulb with me.
Raw Fish extremely ridiculous lol but not the problem
So, you either got bad gas from a station, used gas with ethanol (hygroscopic), or you have a leak in your tank/fuel lines... did you ever bother to figure out which of those it is?
I would not have paid anyone until it was water tested. I would tell them up front that this is the way it is or go somewhere else. Evinrude used to be one of the best outboards made. Ever since OMC screwed them up and went bankrupt, BRP buying the brand, and still hearing of problems, I don't trust them. A Mercury man now, and not looking back. Yamaha and Suzuki are my next picks. I hate it for you. It is a hassle and expense that can drive you crazy.
Charles Driggers Evinrude has always been garbage.
@@hemipower63 And how would you know? Post about things you know about.
It absolutely sounds like they seen you coming and sure sounds like some more dirty fuel to me. Not being a macanic or even ever having $6100 to throw at somthing I would try polishing the fuel and cleaning the injectors .
a honest and decent mechanic is hard to find these days. this is why i work on my own stuff. i replace the water pump and piston rings all at the same time on my 2 stroke Yamaha outboard that cost me 100 dollars and little of my time.
ice yaj I wish I knew how to do it
How did this end up? What year is the boat? Are you sure your tank is good? Have you tried running the engine off a portable tank?
Its not the engine that has the problem. Its the workshop. Bad workshops are an engines worse enemy... even abuse does not compare to a bad workshop.
I bought a seemingly good 115 Evinrude and when i went down to details the workshop had done EVERYTHING wrong... i had to change plug and index (1 was not indexed, 1 was NOT tighthend) had to change all filters that they ignored on every single year service for 10 years, i had to re-grease and change gear oil because they had used the wrong stuff, they had overtorqued all cover bolts and broke all fittings, i had to epoxy and fix all of them. Now it runs and purs like a kitten. No problems at all.
If you buy a Yamaha DONT TAKE IT TO THE SAME incompetent workshop you had your Etec. Good luck.
Well, it's sad you have some bad luck with your engine. But...one question remains now...after more than 1 year...did you get it fixed, or did you spend another 12K on it?
New mercury pro xs 250
@@swag-saltwateranglerguys7767 So now you have warranty :-) Enjoy the engine bro! :-)
Stephan Schouten thanks man
They need to give your money back. If not take them to court.
I have a 1983 evinrude on my bass boat. Greatest motor ever made. Still running like new!!! Find a 1983 evinrude you will be happy!!!!
since it wasn't under warranty Before taking it to someone, did you try the simple things? Did you change the plugs? do you have the right plugs in it? how about the wires did you replace them?
Have you tried a another gas can? get a gallon but Sea Foam in there and follow those directions
if it sat before you got it. they might have used car gas and the lines or carbs have a tiny blockage. it doesn't take much at all.
I agree with your logic here. Remember to index the plugs correctly. Open end of the electrode should face injectors. It's common to need up to 12 spark plugs to put new plugs in a V6 etec
@@SimpleGreen2017 ...he's been to 2 certified Evinrude dealers...how many times do you think those spark plugs have been checked...
@@puzer1 certified dealer does not necessarily mean quality service. Just saying. It's easy enough to check if it has bebecause usually the technician that installs the plugs will mark the plugs with sharpie to indicate the direction the electrode will face.
I’m a marine mechanics, where I work we’re selling/maintaining outboards,also a Evinrude dealership. Those g2 and + are the easiest outboards to work on and diagnose. These are very high tech engines and reliable as fuck is maintained well!! You bought a used etec with 400h on it ..did the ex owner really took care @ the engine or did he abused it? Ran it carelessly while having an issue? How can you be 100% sure ? 400h ain’t much if maintained, but 400h with a dumb owner = 1500h+ lol .. when you bought the engine, was it still under warranty?
Friend had one under warranty and after the fifth time going back to the dealer replacing the ecu fixed it. Less than 50 hours total time. Him and the sea tow capt became friends after 5 tows. Lol. My main complaint is once it threw a code the motor would not run again, not even an emergency limp mode and for that reason I'll stick with Yamaha.
Bart Hutchison haha great story. Him and the sea tow captn became friend lmao that’s etec bro
Every engine in the world can have something break, in your case it sounds like there has been 1 problem the entire time but you have had a bunch of incompetent mechanics that are part changers wasting your time and money.
I do not believe Evinrude makes a bad engine at all.. I do however think that it is possible they are not providing the proper training for their dealers.
Chris Binder The Evinrude’s are too complex and costly to repair. 2Strokes just don’t like to be environmental friendly.
@@melrose9252 lol Evinrude complex and not environmental friendly
So he had bad fuel, misfire on cylinders and did anyone look at the injectors? Sounds like some bad diags not the motor. quick fix, move around the plugs, wires, coils even the injectors and see if the misfire moves. Bam 1200 grand please.
Gavin Clark checks in the mail lol
as simple as it sounds check the install on your plugs ...the gap needs to face the injector port take the plugs out and mark the gap side with a marker and reinstall with the mark facing the injector port..I learned this the hard way my etec was doing the exact same thing
Wayne Carey I appreciate the tip
What’s the latest. My Etec 225ho has been great and I run it hard in saltwater. Should of called BRP direct.
hey man im not a mechanic could it be something electrical. all that money how much is a new motor
Gary Winkworth Exactly a new 200 Suzuki 4 stroke which is very comparable to that motor installed is about 14 grand
Oh by the way a new etec 200hp in Australia is about 26000 grand im pretty sure. we get hammered over here when it comes to toys
@@garywinkworth3380 its about 23000 here man. i hate etec though lol
You spent $ 12.000 on an outboard engine and it don't run right ?? First off , what the hell man $ 12.000 and you SPENT that much !! Simple fix from day one , here ya go , drain or pump out all fuel into a clean plastic gas tank or several tanks to hold it all , attach a AIR HOSE to the fuel injector line going to the engine and REMOVE all spark plugs then crank engine over for 5 seconds , then wait ten seconds then crank over for 5 seconds more , unhook air then reconnect fuel line with new o-rings and put fresh gas in tank also pour 2 bottles of SEA FOAM in tank , now unhook battery to engine , absolutely no voltage going to engine , wait 10 minutes hook battery up , crank and run at 1/4 throttle with water hose connected to engine , run for several minutes cut off engine , now take it to the lake and enjoy it , it's fixed , my price to repair that problem $100 bill ! Those are great engines and very dependable all you gotta do is feed them fresh gas and keep the main lubrication points oiled up !
This was an electronic issue with the motor the gas just started the problem. I bought a 2020 mercury V8 XL and I love it
Wow sorry that you are dealing with this issue. It sounds like it is an injector issue or it may be something as simple as a fouled spark plug. My cousin bought an old bass boat that had a mercury 150 two stroke on it and it ran exactly like what yours is doing. We did a compression check on each cylinder and all but one had 150psi. One cylinder had 0psi and after we removed the cylinder head there was a hole in the piston. He looked online and he swapped the whole power head on that motor. It was fine after that. Please keep us posted as to what your issue is with your motor.
I haven’t done a follow-up video yet but basically it left me stranded. I’m hoping to resend this video to BRP and have them do something about it being it’s been so successful
This kind of repair nightmare is what i dread the most.
I have been stung like u once but not as much and does give u many sleepless nights and know how u feel. Incompetent workers just replacing everything are not mechanics.
I can replace most things on my outboard except for the powerhead and a real mechanic will properly diagnose the issue before repairs and $$.
Only exception is when u have an intermittent fault and then u have to just try anything.
I see they put a couple injectors in from what I could see of the report, but have the reeds been replaced or inspected at least? I have seen cracked and broken reeds on this vintage of etec 200-250 which cause rough idle and missing.
Gary B I’m not sure buddy I’m not a technician but I do have all the printouts. I have them scanned I got to figure out how to link them to this video I’m kind of new at this RUclips stuff.
Did you get it fixed. I think timing is off. Get 1-2 gallons of gas and a can of Seafoam. It might help. I store my boats outside with a cover for much of the year in Minnesota.
Middle of North America I did not I am purchasing a new motor next month. I’m thinking the mercury 250 pro xs selling the old eTech for 1000 to a boat mechanic my mom knows lol. He offered to look at it to fix it and I told him no way bro don’t even look at that butter unless you want to buy it. 😂
You couldn’t remember when you picked up from mechanics. Didn’t you do a test run before picking up?
They wanted to pursue other problems that they thought it was. I had already spent a bunch of money and didn’t want to spend anymore on that motor.
they charged you $6100.00 to FIX it. its not fixed, take it back and make them fix it at "their" expense. don't be a sucker man. take them to court if need be. it's all bull shit if it ain't fixed, sounds like they aren't qualified to work on an e-tec engine.
bama Fan source one marine in Hudson fl, smh there are my premier etec dealer
And I hate them lol
Injector!! Did you get it fixed or sold it?
selling it
Hope you finally figured it out. If you still have this motor. The problem is the Reed Valve, 3 and 5. They get loose and can actually be ingested and bye bye engine! When loose it makes the engines think the cylinders are heating up.. I've been digging a lot on these engines. Some posted in 2019 with the same exact issue you have and after almost a year... He finally got to the bottom of it.. Good Luck!
I’ve been a johnrude Yamaha merc mech for 28 years an yes there has been issues with them like all others on market let’s get on the diagnostics
I can't get a trusted mech for any small motor item where I live here in North Texas. I take things in, describe the problem, tell them what I want and don't want done, then when I go to pick it up they have invariably replaced parts that did not need replacing, that I specifically told the service writer not to replace... and they charge me for replacing a complete assembly, only to discover they kept half the assembly and only replaced some parts of it, though I paid for the whole shebang the decided to save their time and parts whilst charging me full price. I think the only way around this is to get a part time job as a service writer so as to learn all the tricks they use to NOT fix the problem while still spending loads of YOUR MONEY on stuff that will not correct the original complaint. Service writers who get paid on commission of the total bill are guaranteed to NOT FIX the problem, because the continuation of parts and labor expense is what keeps them in commission checks. Until customers understand where their money is going, until they get a firm written and enforceable contract for work to be done and have that contract signed and in hand before any work starts, we all can expect to be overcharged and under satisfied time and again. It is a scam, one of the worst, and it permeates every mechanic system that uses service writers to generate sales of time and parts. If they don't just want to replace modules say NO WAY unless they are willing to RENT a new module for a day to see if that corrects the problem, otherwise the customer replaces part after part after part and no one ever can say when it will end.
Are your plugs indexed correct and fuel pressure in correct range and injectors pulse way may be out of time do you have water filter on fuel line
Fred Thompson yes I have a water fuel separator on the fuel line
One thing do you get a knock sensor reading
Sounds like you did everything besides clean the moisture from the tank lol? Also if you did do that maybe your ran the fuel to rich? Causing the spark plugs to foul? Anything around fuel or what makes cylinders fire lol
Comments about not paying till its fixed are pretty stupid. They dont water test cause your boat dont leave till its paid for. This is where knowing your shop comes in but they cant have a mechanic working all day for free and he shouldn't just be stabbing at it either. Try that get a warranty in writing shit and see how that goes. Basically youll be dragging your boat from shop to shop wasting everones time. At some point be best to fix it yourself. Probably electrical. They can be hard to track down if its intermittent.
I own two etecs, essentially the same, but mine are 225s.
First, I am sorry for your problems. I had similar fuel issues on my low hour engines, esp the starboard engine. The guy I had bought the boat from had disabled the water/fuel alarm and I toasted my injectors on the engine. Took me 6 mo to get the injectors--$3k and then another $2k to put them in and get them set up. Replaced/upgraded the fuel pump too.
You can pull the injectors yourself, plenty of videos on how to do this and test them yourself. Make sure you MARK each injector as they are not interchangeable. If the injectors are bad, well, the cure is more money for new injectors.
As for your bad gas, I installed a clear goldenrod separator ahead of the first fuel separator system. The goldenrod is clear and has a quick release valve at the bottom. Saves you from having to unscrew the metal filter to check for contamination. Also remember, if you get the fuel alarm, both filters are filled with water and you need to get this cleaned out ASAP. The water in ur injectors is like acid. Eats those things up. Unscrew and dump your filter in the back of the boat, then pull off your engine cover and unscrew and dump this filter as well. remember to be careful with the filter under the cowling, it has the two wires that sense water. Do not bend or damage these. Once the water is cleared, immediately start your engine back up and let it run for 10-15 mins.
That's a nice boat, I would get comfortable with pulling the engine apart and putting it back together. People are getting less and less enthusiastic about working my engines, so it may behoove you to get in there and take things apart. You will learn a lot in the process! --and drop parts in the water.
You need to find a Mechanic that knows how to Repair your Evinrude. I have never Owned an Etec but...I have Owned Evinrude and Johnson Outboards , Different H.P. sizes and configurations and have Never had problems. Whatever you decide to go with as your Next brand of Outboard , Best of luck to you.
Brp evinrude is not a good outboard like the old johnson was .
I don’t understand why people are so rude. The guy put his trust in his mechanics and they robbed him. Not everyone is a mechanic.
Thanks joe
No problem it’s the truth. Sorry your going through this.
Joe Kioske I should of got a Suzuki
If you still have any trust in great power an fuel economy that this engine has take off the injectors number them to the cylinders send them out to cleaned an tested Fla fuel inj service in Saint Petersburg
Greg Smith source one marine did that already with no luck.
Go to this website,etecownersgroup.com ,The people there are very knowledgeable,helpful and kind.I believe they also have BRP's ear.If anybody on this planet can help you they can.If they can't help you .you might as well buy a new motor and start over.
Thanks for showing us. I would have been absolutely furious !!! If they tried that with me and held my boat ransom I'd probably have done something I'd regret.. I feel for you bro..
Phillip Himebaugh thank you
I would for sure check fuel delivery and check the reed valves on that engine
I bought a brand new 2007 Etec. It always had an over heating problem. Out of warranty I replaced the whole port side of engine head. The mechanic said it had a white scaling inside port head. Said he never saw that before. It seemed to have corrected the problem. I think this had been my problem since new. Much more to my story with the trouble shooting and would be more than happy to share my info with you if you want to discuss. If I have any problems this year I’m selling and putting on a Yamaha
Coil packs, fuel injectors or fuel pump? What ever happened to that motor?
My buddy my buddy bought an E-Tec and it didn't even last a year he was still making payments same issues same problems they made him buy a new computer and everything he didn't even make nothing but three payments on the engine and the engine ran shit those attacks are garbage they do not run like they're supposed to they start out good but they're really garbage you get over 200 hours or even 150 hours and you already start having problems don't spend your money on Evinrude there are garbage did he check do not work worth a crap
Poppa P This guy knows exactly what I just went through it’s ridiculous dealing with these people at brp. Now listen my motor was not under warranty however when I called BRP I asked them which dealership to take it to for the repair they told me source one marina. After my boat was not repaired and I spent the money at the repair facility THEY Recommended. That’s why I submitted a complaint to BRP and they did nothing repeatedly and then basically told me I was on my own 12 grand later. I made this video to warn people. The customer service is terrible the product is prone to problems be aware.
With all that junk in the garage there is no way that you can truthfully say that your boat motor and trailer also lives comfortably in there.
Lido Buddy that garage can fit two full-size firetrucks in there.
I have been in boat dealerships that had snotty attitudes. They only provided quality service only if you were there to drop a lot of money, otherwise they wanted you to get off their lot.
Yes they told me there was nothing they were going to do for me. Because my motor was out of warranty. They turned my claim down. Not to mention they never got back to me ever I had to call them multiple times over and over and over again just to get simple answers. I’m still very upset if you would like any follow-up videos about my motor I’m taking it out this weekend and will be more than happy to share how it starts up and idles.
Have you inspected, cleaned or replaced your injectors?
yes all three
I am having a very similar problem with a Yamaha F150. Running rough, wont rev a as high as it used too. Low hrs ( around 140). Perfect compression, passes leak down. First mechanic did complete service - no fix -. Said it was a temp sensor - no fix. Did the ECU, $1200 - no fix. Said it was the TPS was out of spec and needed adjustments. The mechanic adjusted then took it to the lake for a test run. He said he got it to 5100 rpm but that the prop was wrong and the motor is under sized .... blah, blah, blah.
I took it straight to the lake, engine wouldn’t get over 4200 rpm.
The boat used to do 43mph at 5400rpm with the same prop. It’s at the second mechanic now.
I see the comments about people saying how it’s your fault for letting a company rip you off, that’s BS!! How is it the boat owners vault for depending on a boat mechanic to fix there boat. Not everyone is an expert on outboards.
He’ll most BOAT mechanics don’t know what to do if there is no code given when they run diagnostics.
Seeing what you’ve been through worries me about my situation, did you ever get to the bottom of your problem?
It's not the motor it the tech working on motor I love my 300 etec mine not under warranty either I do my own work. Well my brother does it with me I have evinrude computer program to run my own diagnostics start from basic check spark no spark go from there if spark is good then check fuel ,compression first so on and so forth if I can't fix it then I take to markey marine in Key largo to dave good luck did you fix it yet JT
With all due Respect, you don't sound like an experienced boat owner to me.
#1. NEVER pay for repairs until you have tested the boat at the repair facility.
#2. ALWAYS get a lawyer if they can't fix it 100%.
*See my story elsewhere here....
*You make a decent video, but you've got a Lot to learn about boat dealers.
P.S. The majority of mechanics at boat dealers are, in reality, auto mechanics who were looking for work and just happened upon the boat job.
You must Verify that anyone touching your engine has been through a Factory training program.
I'm not blowing air here - I've been on the water for 65 years. Fact.
P.S. The next time you have a serious engine issue, Always call the Factory Directly. Make nice, use manners, tell your story, and ask the Factory contact where there is a Factory-trained tech near you.
Man, these dealers just took you for a ride.
No big deal.. it's just a timing problem. Sounds like it's off by one tooth..
Do you know how the Etec works? Its a 2 stroke but uses high pressure direct injectors mounted on the head, maybe they got screwed with the bad fuel. But what the hell you paid a lot of money for nothing.
Best thing is to turn the camera on unbuckle it from the transom and kick it off and let it rot right where it fell! And tag Evinrude in this video when you do it!!! Make a movement anti Evinrude movement that is!! Who wants to buy high priced 2 stroke oil plus gas anymore? No one buy a four stroke way less over head cost to run and better on the environment as well!!
Rogers’ Lawn Care I am sending the link of this video back to the claims department and I’m going to CC the top seven people on the board at BRP I have all their personal email addresses. I started this video because of that my friend that’s what this is about.
You bought a used motor and had issues..... big deal..... my buddy has ran an e-tec for 10 years without ever having a single problem.... I have an 11 year old merc that is giving me fits, but I bought it used so I’m not crying. I don’t understand putting 12k into a used motor though.... surely they gave you an idea of the cost before you gave the ok for the work?
Chris Harris It Accumulated over that three year time period. Each visit was supposed to be a service in the marina said they could fix it and then the chase begin again each time. Two separate E tech dealers. This particular trip was source one marine in Hudson Florida
You payed 6100 dollars and they didn’t fix it? Would you pay an electrician to change a broken light for a broken light? No so why would you pay someone that didn’t fix the problem ?
Jay Stantonja no I wouldn’t but a lawyer or court is even more money
Y's lower unit to beat up? what year is the engine? if the lower unit is that beat up..the rest of it is no better.
2006 I had a skeg guard on there that rubbed the paint off over time.
that's sounds like a fuel delivery problem, had a merc do that
what if it was $3.00 spark plug? I had this happen to a Billy goat brush cutter. replaced everything except the spark plugs because it looked "new". Turned out to be the plugs.
Real mechanics dont guess and paying that much it should be running with no problems. They are just parts guessing, some of the listed has nothing to do with a engine miss like that. I would report the company who worked on it to the better business bureau. They are obviously running a service scam. People that know absolutely nothing about engines can do what they did. At the same time you seem very careless with what your paying for. What the hell are you paying them for they did nothing but took your money.
The best and hardest part about gambling is knowing when to get out, cut your losses and learn some lessons. Good luck with the new outboards.
454RagingBullSS The hardest part about gambling is paying the Bookie on Tuesday
@@swag-saltwateranglerguys7767 At least they will give you a known flat rate before you place your bet, if you go for a double or nothing and loose that's on you.
454RagingBullSS Yes with an opportunity to actually win something I would sign up for that
I have a Suzuki 200 the warranty is great customer service is great and very fuel efficient Suzuki definitely a good motor
Full Marine Services that’s what I want to get
Full Marine Services Inhave has the same service with my Merc.
The Casting Channel you said you spent 12k trying to fix it you can get a 250hp suzuki for 15k 16k I paid 10k for a 175hp Suzuki from dusky marine
Or try outboard specialties in Pompano
vanessa M I will look into both those places thanks for the advice.
@@swag-saltwateranglerguys7767 and you should take fuel lines off at primer bulb and check your fuel for water you could have a hole in your tank.i also was chasing down problems because of a hole in the gas tank for year and a half I found out after I repowered and broke down first day because of water in the gas .thats after boat center of ft Lauderdale said they pressure tested the tank which they didn't .
Have you changed the fuel tank? You had moisture in the fuel tank how? If you haven’t fixed that yet your not gonna run right! You didn’t mention having that fixed
terry fonz Replacing the fuel tank altogether?? We drain the gas dried it out put more gas in. Or the techs did at least.
Just drained and put new gas and separator as well
@@swag-saltwateranglerguys7767 did that fix the problem??
mjbowhunter no smh 🤦♂️
Read the leds on the emm get a evinrude shop manual or find some body that can scan computer I do all my own work on my motor if I can't then I take to David at markey marine in KeyLargo Fla love my 300 etec couldn't give me a four stroke only one I would even consider is a zuki best warranty than etec 6 yrs top to bottom trying to get my kid to dump that merc and get zuki 200 hp JT do you still have your etec ?
Hooked-n-Rolling Offshore 2009 yes I still have it.
The Casting Channel philip turn Key on not starting have seen your leds on emm light 1 3 4 should come light 1 is top light with water on yours is a 07 mine is 08 with new power head full dress by Evinrude in 2010 anyway crank engine until running 2 seconds all lights should be on then turn off in sequence 1 2 3 and last 4 your motor and my motor are same Evinrude shop manual so above and let me know if any lights r on or blinking while Key on or runningthanks I'll sub that way I'll be notified when you comment or email at southernwreckers@gmail.com I'll see if I can help you out I'll run it by my brother what the lights r doing thanks John
Hooked-n-Rolling Offshore 2009 I will email the receipt on Monday there on my work pc.
The Casting Channel thank black out your personal info my brother is meticulous when he works on something he will read your report and think about it if you could tomorrow just turn Key on and see if lights 134 come on or blinking that is first step and let me know in e mail thanks do compression check on 3 and 5 cylinder run on water and check lights while running thanks need these answers first JT
Suzuki #1.
Love Suzuki just got a merc 250 xl v8. I love Suzukis 350 with a dual prop
At first its a $12,000 fix, then it drops to $6,000 when you turn the key...? And a "little moisture?" How could you find a "LITTLE" moisture? If you can find moisture in your fuel, its ALOT of moisture. Also, there are water separating fuel filters that would have stopped this from happening, they cost about 50 bucks. Its funny how people perceive things. YOU run bad/water infiltrated gasoline in your $18,000 engine, then blame the the engine company? The repair techs didn't/couldn't fix your mistake and again you blame the engine manufacture? This is not an Evinrude problem, this isn't a warranty issue, this is your problem stop bashing a decent company because you messed up, they didn't run the bad gas in your engine, they didn't tell the technicians not to fix your engine, you need to take some blame for your mistake, and then hold the repair shop responsible for throwing useless parts on your engine and not fixing it. If you run bad gas/water through any engine, no matter which make, and it will have long lasting residual problems.
steven merchant it has a water separator it has all that. It’s a ranger bay 2200 tournament fishing boat it’s fully loaded. I stated that at first I want to golf coast marine and then over time that I’ve owned the boat it cost me about 12 grand chasing that specific problem. The boat still ran thiugh so I still used it. There just comes a time where you need to stop I got pissed and made this video lol. I’m not dropping another dollar into that motor in care how simple it is
Did they ever mess with the fuel pump?
Rick Warn Yes I replace the fuel pump. Wasn’t the problem
@@swag-saltwateranglerguys7767 that's crazy they let it leave the shop running like that.
MIGHT HAVE FOUND THE "PROBLEM" it seems from what I was told it's not really an uncommon problem....A 2 cycle doesn't use any values.....BUT there is a reed value system in place. From what I was told. If you do NOT use the recommend oil...it can cause it to carbon over...and hence cause it to run rough at idea....The suggestion was, find and clean the reed, and use whatever oil Evinrude says works best and might fix the problem. hope this help...I'm really surprised Evinrude couldn't tell you this....they have to know this is a possible problem.
They were no help thank you for the tip.
Too bad. Sounds like bad mechanics. Have a fleet of etecs and ran into 1 issue that Evinrude covered out of warranty. I do have 1 mechanic I trust and have 1100+ hours on our 2006 250etec gen1. before you put a new motor on have the tank cleaned. Also i think the problem is the plugs. Could have had a failure or crap due to the water and i wonder if the plugs were replaced. If they were replaced are they INDEXED properly.
skipped through the video, did they every say anything about the case half? the anaerobic seal.
DARKHAWK0092 The next thing they wanted to do was go inside the powerhead and check the sleeves of the cylinder heads they think one of them might’ve been rotated. Sounded like another six grand to me so I said no
@@swag-saltwateranglerguys7767 I'm sure uve heard it in the comments already but next time you take it to a shop. At least come to an agreement that you wont pay full until you test it. You could have easily gota new motor my now.
Is that hose hooked up to the flush port? You can't run this engine on the hose tilted or you will get water in the cylinders. Must be completely vertical.
whewdoggie1 I got rid of E tech and I’m looking to re-power with a Suzuki most likely. At this point I will never talk to another guy took representative ever. Unless they want to give me my money back lol