TEAM TALK: 🚨 EVINRUDE BOMBSHELL!!! 🚨 (LYING TO CUSTOMERS???)
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- Опубликовано: 28 янв 2025
- TEAM TALK: 🚨 EVINRUDE BOMBSHELL!!! 🚨 (LYING TO CUSTOMERS???)
Another day, another video about how BRP is trashing the Evinrude name! Multiple insider sources at Evinrude tell us that BRP is purposely misleading customers when it comes to back ordered parts. 3 months out on back order, then they supersede that part number with a new number and say that part is 3 months out. They cycle will continue until BRP no longer has any legal obligations to Evinrude warranty holders and parts manufacturing. It ain't right and someone needs to call these guys out for it....WE WILL! Comment below if you've gotten the run around or tell us if you've actually gotten any parts from BRP Evinrude.
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Nobody.. NOBODY can ever say Andy wasn't ever here for the people... dudes been here from day ONE for US!!!! And I appreciate that
I still have an 08 225HO that I am nursing. Having to worry about parts takes the fun out of it. Glad you said it. I try to take people by their word. BRP needs to stand behind what they promised. Maybe it is time for a class action lawsuit. That may be our only recourse!
I've got a friend that has a 2006 225HO that runs great. He just took it off and is trying to sell it. $3500obo He repowered with Mercury
I had an 08 225HO up until a month ago until the head unit began overheating, didn’t even get to 400 hours. Sad to see it go but I repowered with mercury.
Agree 100% with you as a previous dealer. I have dropped Mercury also because of all the back orders. I had a prop on back order for 2 years and they finally shipped it out and they shipped it to another dealer. Mercury put it back on back order. WTF! I pity the poor people with newer motors because no parts are available.
I used to be a huge Evinrude/Johnson patron until the Ficht. I switched over to Mercury but just love the sound and looks of the ETECs. It is truly sad to have witnessed their demise.
Bought a used boat. Previous owners etec blew up with 200 hours on it. He went to Yamaha 4 stroke
Thanks Andy, you are one of the most real men out there
I appreciate that buddy
Lesson learned- with a piece of machinery, there’s no room for emotion. Brands, labels have changed meaning in the last 30 yrs. Save emotions for people you care about
4 years ago I got myself a Tracker 175 XTW with a 75 hp ETEC pushing. I don’t put many hours on it per season but so far it’s been operating flawlessly and I love the way it performs. That said, I am seriously starting to look at an alternative. The whole BRP story is very sad. Thanks Andy for enlightening us on the reality.
Andy thank You for all you do and the good honest information . I was at Emerald Cove Parker Arizona on the river two weeks ago and saw my first and only "Switch". It looked interesting from far away on the trailer but when they put it in the water and added six adults it couldn't get out of it's own way. A True Pile of floating excrement. Thanks Jim.
Always appreciate the honesty and information!
Love your videos, and the honest knowledge you share!
Andy, thanks for sharing this... I had a feeling that is what was going to happen but, thought it would take a little longer to actually happen. Nice work sharing the inside info with folks that need to know Keep up the great content!
Had an Etec g1 90 on my boat, it honestly ran like a champ. But I started hearing horror stories about parts taking a year plus to ship and i decided to get rid of it. Got a great trade in for a new 4 stroke.
Im a Evinrude guy, I dont blame you for not liking it. This motor went down hill when BRP got their hands on it
They were bankrupt already by the time BRP bought them out for pocket change
I’m so sick of incompetence running great companies into the ground. I’ve seen it I’ve worked for a company that our plant manager was more interested in chasing his secretary around the office then managing our company. What was once the shining example in a 300 million dollar a year companies shop is gone because of him.
These big groups buying co. Just destroy them. After Remington arms was bought by freedom group they mfg. Junk firearms and the quality control was shit. Then they quit building and supplying parts for the original firearms. Sad.
I Agree it's really sad but hey they came out with a really bad design for an outboard rather then continuing with a good outboard and improving on it
Don't get me started about incompetence in the trucking industry.
Agreed, working for one of the Mediocre Three, (big 3) for 20 years the integrity has fallen threw the Floor.
@@jddarby007you got that right mister!
Andy with the million beep bombs lol. Felt like I was watching the scene in Happy Gilmore where he missed the putt! 😂
Either stop censoring or stop swearing. The beeping is annoying as a 7am alarm clock
Andy, long time subscriber and first time commenter. Your videos and information you share with this group are always appreciated. You personally saved me a huge amount of grief these last few years as I was seriously considering upgrading my outboard to an ETEC....and as you stated so eloquently.... :)..... they "were" an awesome motor and company in the past but their demise as of now is staggering. I'm up in Canada which makes accessing parts and service even more difficult. By subscribing to this channel, you convinced me that a shiny new Suzuki was the way to go and I have never been happier with their product, service and reliability. I can't even imagine the grief and stress I would be experiencing if I had gone with the Evinrude. A big thank you from this Canadian boy for keeping my stress levels in check and being able to actually be on the water where all boats belong!! Take care.
sorry, one more thing.....my neighbor bought a Switch this summer and I can't stop laughing at him.....
You know that hundreds of thousands of the Johnnyrude motors were made in Peterborough Ontario for many decades till they went bankrupt in the States, I've owned at least five. I now have a 78 115 and an 84 90hp still running strong.
Great video. Andy tells it like it is, and sometimes the truth hurts. Hope someone at Bombardier sees this video. But even so I doubt they would give a shit, Keep on keeping it real Andy!
Thank you for the great info.
I just wish BRP would just sell the brand to another company to redevelop. Even the Johnson name into a four stroke give us something!!!
That won’t happen. The BRP ghost is evinrude technology. They will always double down on the 2 stroke technology.
I think the brand is forever dead. Even if revived, too many dealers, customers, enthusiasts burned. Real bad experiences that run real deep. A lot of people lost a lot of money and endured a lot of headaches on so many levels.
BRP needs to return that government money
At this point it’s too late for that, they’ve ruined the reputation and many people have sworn them off.
And it’d be hard for them to break into the market with something new with such great options like Suzuki and Yamaha now.
I still love my E-Tecs, but this is my biggest concern. Parts; I have a 1000hr plus 40hp engine that has been flawless for over 17 years. And my 225HO G2 has mainly been good, some minor issues that lead to other slight running issues (extended idling lead to fouled plug and burnt out coil). Carbon build up due to that also blocked EMM exhaust back pressure fitting). Cleared and has been running great. 650plus hours on that 2014 year engine ABA. Will see how it goes.
Parts will be backordered until they're no longer legally required to manufacture/supply them. Nice little legal loophole they have there.
That was my understanding of the legal aspect of it. When GM decided to stop producing Oldsmobile, the federal government stepped in and said that parts must be available for 10 years following the last production. Is the fact that BRP is Canadian having influence on this?
Funny, a lot of GM products were produced in Canada. 🤔. It's sad really. I've owned Johnson Evinrude since the seventies. Still running 80's two strokes. Probably going to go Japanese in the future. They actually care about putting a quality product out. 😢
I still had 5yr left on my 10yr warranty when I got rid of my etec! What good is a warranty when they don’t have the parts to back it up? I was without a boat for a year waiting on parts! 6 months for a exhaust valve actuator then 6 months for a flywheel!
I'm not a boat expert. Yamaha/Tohatsu dealer says Tohatsu answers the phone for them and handles business on point. He also said Tohatsu warranty is first class, no B/S about what caused an issue.
My experience is 30hp, buddy's 40hp saltwater fished mostly and a new 140hp.
We are all happy customers !
As a Tohatsu dealer, this is 100% true
Andy, great content, please keep up the good work!
I have a 2016 etec 40 with about 120 hours on it. I can't afford to repower so two questions. First, is this a reliable outboard? Second, what can I do to maximize its lifespan? Thanks for the help!
Xd100 oil, carbon guard, and 200:1 oil in the fuel. Non ethanol fuel and run it wide open for at least 5 minutes a trip to the lake.
I'm so glad I watch this vid. I am looking at a 2016 boat with a 250 Evinrude on it. The price is lower than the same boat with a Yam etc on it and they keep dropping the price but no one is buying it. It seems like a good deal but if you can't get parts for the motor what good is it.
I was gonna buy a used boat that’s got this motor on it but I just changed my mind thank you for saving a big headache
Love it. Telling it straight! 🙏🇺🇸
Has there been any movement on a class action suit against BRP that anyone knows of? I'm having a terrible time with them with a boat a bought new in 2018 with a 10 year warranty.
I took a shot with every F bomb you dropped, and I’m drunker than hell now still not drunk enough to wanna fuck with an Evinrude😂😂😂
Preach bro! Great job.
Should we make offers on used boats with evinrude as if the motor is off the boat? Figure the repower in the offer?
😂😂😂 yes I do this anyway hahaha
yes
As soon as the made the announcement I re powered my boat! Basically gave away a perfectly running E-Tec because I had a feeling this exact thing would happen! It ran really good when it wasn’t broke 😅
Hello Andy,
I enjoy watching your Team Talk RUclipss and was quite interested in your "Evinrude Bombshell!!!" video that talked about the problem many viewers apparently are having getting replacement parts for their Evinrude E-TEC motors. I have a 2018 90hp E-TEC that runs great. There is an Evinrude / Suzuki dealer in Detroit that always seems to have parts and service for both motors. Maybe this place gets the parts that they need because of their longevity as a selling and servicing Evinrude dealer? Their website says that they have been in business at the same location for over 100 years! Lockeman's Hardware & Boats in Detroit is another place your viewers might be able to contact for hard to get E-TEC parts and service. Thanks again for keeping boaters informed about all the latest issues!!
Both my Evinrudes are from the 80's. I have an 89 90hp VRO and an 83 25hp tiller. Both have been dead nuts reliable. I will run em till they or I croak, but what's truly amazing is there are parts ALL over for these, and no electronics to F with. Love me old Evi's.
I need help finding out where my boat is leaking and was also wondering what was your opinion on a 1978 champion bass
My best day of boating was getting rid of the Evinrude and putting on a new Suzuki. I have no faith whatsoever in BRP and would never buy a boat with one.
I traded in my 30hp E-tec a month and a half ago because it kept going into overheat mode with a new functioning impellor and bought a brand new Merc. I got ahead of the rabbit hole of part availability, knew this was coming. It’s unfortunate BRP took the name and trashed it.
Yep, My etec 30 just started the unexplainable overheat issue… new imp kit, thermo,pressure valve, no avail…. Even removed thermo… still overheating.. FFS
I had the same problem with my 25 (same engine). I bought a Tohatsu which runs great so far.
I think Bombardier knew exactly what they were going to do with this and never had any intent of making it a success .
Damn Canadiens... Blame Canada!!!
Probably Trudeau is at fault! He has screwed up everything else.
As a life long Johnson/Evinrude man this kinda shit grinds my gears. BRP do the right thing and sell the Evinrude name to someone who will make it great again. MEGA....make Evinrude great again!! Guess I'll keep my Carbed Johnson Venom, at least the aftermarket has parts for those.
I bought a demo G2 300 from a pro staffer a year before they quit. Motor was awesome; great torque, smooth running and loved the steering. But saw the writing on the wall when they went under. Downsized my boat to a rig with a ‘99 carbed 150 Yamaha; had no prob getting parts for it. Sold it for more than a used etec will get. Finally ended up with the ol reliable Yam F150.
The G2s really are fantastic
I have a 225 etec and have some questions. How can I best contact you?
Call us at the shop 608-784-4162
I have an 06 225 and can’t find anyone to work on it.
Hey Andy thanks for the info and the heads up. I currently own a 175 E-tec that runs well. What would be your suggestion on reliable replacement outboard to go on the back of my 2004 Tr19X?
As a Marine Tech in the Houston/galveston area, I can say that I am glad that I’ll never had to service another evinrude outboard.
I love your honesty man...I used to love evinrude back in 90s ,early 2000s but seen soon when they sold out it went to shit...I seen then I would never own one !!
Hard to keep the computer board cooled if it ran in salt water or muddy water . There is a place in the water jackets that gets filled with sediment and won’t flow water to the computer.. I just bought one a few months ago then shipped both computers to GA to have a data transfer. The computer has to be programmed to the motor or it will not run.. they did buy my old one that did off set the shipping. And the price of the data transfer so all together about 75$.. the computer itself was a few hundred dollars
Thanks for your honesty and the heads-up.
I have a 1977 Johnson 115 and it runs great (for now) but I’ve always thought of that and I’d run into the problem of not being able to find parts. But hopefully it keeps running
I got a 1965 Johnson 9.5 hp and it’s been dependable for years. Sucks that I gotta switch companies when I buy a new boat soon.
There's lots of aftermarket parts available, for almost all the older motors, even on Amazon.
I have a 2017 etech 115hp on my ranger rt188. It runs great but would yall recommend I trade it I'm for?
It is sad . I had a 1998 225 and when omc went under I lost my warranty . Traded it in on a 2004 225HO , that thing was a rocket ship.
had no trouble with either outboard .
The old ones from the 60's 70's still run like a champ and you can get parts for the old ones
I waited 6 weeks for an opti air compressor. Fixed it and re-powered with a Merc V-6.
My 2019 g2 115 ho just started knocking, warranty until may 2025. I live in onalaska and plan on bringing it to you guys to winterize and look at soon.
Having worked with several auto manufacturers over a 30 year span, I know that a part number change usually indicates that the manufacturer has identified a problem with the current design of a part and it has been redesigned or a component has been changed to a different manufacturer to mediate the problem. The problem with computers is that the chips needed to fix the problem are made of that rare precious substance known as UNOBTANIUM. When the chips are released, they are in such short supply that all or most of them go to the assembly line. If they went to spare parts, the assembly lines would shut down tanking the business. Unfortunately, the owners of previously purchased defective products are faced with long wait times. They are partially screwed. The reason I say partially is that when the supply chain restores, they can get their part. If the company folds, they go from partially to totally screwed.
Love the straight talk!
I have a 2018 etec 300hp ..wonder what I can get for it if I repowered ? Would u sell it separate then do a repower or the dealers will give you something when u repower ? engine runs great 160 hrs on it .. but like you said parts will be harder and harder to get ....
How you like the old 200 xp looper 86 87 models there ok motors i hear
I have a great running 40 hp e tec. What’s it worth?
WOW!!! Thank you so much for this vid!!! I've been looking for an E-Tec to re-motor my '89 88 SPL as there are lakes here I can't run a pre-mix 2 stroke on. What is my best option? Thank much! ~Chris
I have a 2019 etec 90 hp. I wonder if i can get parts for that. Knock on wood i dont have any issues but piece of mind.
I have a 2018 Evinrude 115 HP with about 15 hrs on it,,I just hope it stays together.
I LOVED Evinrude, marine tech most of my life. For any one out there that wants to hear this, just this week I traded my Etec. Talking with several Evinrude dealers, we all believe when BRP is done with the warranty on existing motors, they will flush EVERYTHING down the toilet!!!! So glad (as much as it broke my heart), I put a Suzuki 4-stroke on my boat, even after I always said I’d never buy a 4-stroke, because it was worth money now, and prices are dropping!!
11 months three sets of parts( lied to completely by suppliers. Sent wrong parts.) One screwed me around for three months. At one time claiming they took it from the warehouse and shipped it. Found the part. Fixed it. Will be junk the next time. He is totally correct.
I 100% agree. I also think they knew this when they did that 10yr warranty to clear out the inventory knowing they would never service these warranties.
I run a 2012 130hp on a Shoalwater cat down here in TX. Great motor, but I’ll run it till it blows or no parts available. I won’t get a dime for trade in, so why not. My mechanic races Evinrude motors. He builds flywheel replacements that are cheaper and better warranty than the BRP OEM flywheels. Race proven. BRP was buying from him during COVID and was shipping all over the world. It’s going to take people like this to keep it going for a little while, but at the end of the day even he won’t get parts.
Yes Sir this is very unfortunate.
Just found your channel and thank you the great info and insight. I watched your video, about 3 years ago, about Yamaha vs Mercury. I was wonder if your thoughts are the same about the brands. As, I have a 2016 Boston Whaler 210 Montauk with a 2016 Evinrude E-TEC 200HP HO. I am in Southwest Florida and just can't get any service in my area on the E-TEC. My E-TEC needs about a $4k of work, including a new fuel pump/reservoir. So, I've been thinking about repowering. Thoughts on the Yamaha and Suzuki inline 4 cylinder 200HP compared to the Mercury FourStroke V6 200HP outboard?
The company I’m with has been a J/E dealer/service center for 46 years. The reputation in our area we have for these motors is incredible. We always had parts on hand and we pride ourselves on proper quality, efficient work. It’s a kick to our guts knowing we can’t serve our customers like we did. Luckily we’re Yamaha also so we were able to bounce back a bit. But to see one of our old signs that says “First in Outboards”… it means nothing now. I feel the Cape Coral dealer meeting was a giant F-U to us looking back on everything. They knew, they had/have a plan and I’m thinking by 2025 it’s totally done.
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I used to have a 30 hp Evinrude almost 40 years ago.I never had problems with it. I think the down fall of Evinrude started when they decided to introduce a direct injected 2 stroke. I think if they put in the research and money into making a quality 4 stroke they'd still be in business. It's arrogance and stupidity on their part. I now own a Mercury outboard.
Love my E TEC, Half the engines in the marina are mercury engines and they don't run. Friend finally pulled his boat, 10 hrs this season, been to 2 dealers 4 times this year. Still isn't fixed.
glad my old 120hp V4 Johnson still runs hard. Would love a modern 2-stroke. but too many horror stories...
I was unlucky in that they announced the "going out of business" six weeks after I gladly purchased a motor with the Evinrude name on it. At that time I was having some issues with it and my dealer easily got parts from them. Fast forward three years and in spite of the dealer trying everything we couldn't get it fixed. As time progressed the dealer started having issues getting them on the phone as I continued to have issues. The mechanic found a used part at another dealer and finally we had it fixed. The same day I was convinced we had finally fixed it I gave it to a guy that had blown his engine and needed one. I ordered a new Yamaha and can't be happier.
Bought a rt 188 back in 17 almost bought a rude but wised up and got a Mercury and thank god I did
Glad I went to an SHO when I did. My Evinrudes have always been great, when they were running....
Mercury parts are hard to get too. Older Merc parts NLA.
Andy!!!🤠 what's up!!! Nice info🤠 What about the Trolling Motor battle? 😬 We need an expert on it🤓.
I have a 95 130 HP Evinrude that is still running strong on the back of my 18 foot Stratos crossing my fingers that it holds up I have had it for 15 years boat still looks like it came off the showroom floor.
Brp the worst company ever. They always know better they are always right. Their way or the highway. Thats what it was like to be a dealer. Oh and immense pressure to purchase. Blehh just remembering makes me nauseous
I've had multiple older Evinrudes and Johnsons and currently own an 86 110 that I bought new in 86 and had very few issues since new, coil, starter, oil injection and that's it. Could probably use reeds. Had friends that had XP's and Intruders and all great motors but also had friends that had E techs and absolutely junk! Power heads computers, lower units etc all swayed me into not getting one. Very disappointing! Still get comments in my bass club on how well the 110 pushes my old Sylvan Eliminator, still will hit 45 mph with 2 guys and full load. Last good motor in my opinion was the Intruder!
What motor should I buy??(brand)
Yamaha...no exceptions
That’s why I have a business salvaging Duramax Diesel engines. Between Covid, age, and the strikes there is low to no availability on parts. So I buy all the old stuff up and sell it for profit.
I have a 2011 250 HO, been thinking repower since Evinrude pulled the plug, but it runs so good just rolling the dice so far.
Hey can you please give me your opinion on sprint bass boat 1995 286 pro tournament
We bought a switch because it was $21k during Covid but I knew BRP was trash and figured if it lasts 4 years it was worth it. It’s a sad faded pile and spent 6 months in the shop waiting on parts so far.
Mercury is no better been waiting on a fuel line for my 2012 pro xs since February
What? Lol, no way. What's the part number?
Get off your ass & work the phones, they are still finding NOS parts for 1934 Harleys for christ's sake. Somebody has one the shelf, find it & stop whining
Like Mercury before old man Keikhaefer passed away and the kids sold it. Downhill it went. Yamaha, Suzuki, and Tohatsu is really all there is.
What about the parts on their underboard?
Not disagreeing with anything you just said but Parts are challenging for all mechanics right now.
I've got Evinrude and Johnson in 3 different eras lol I think the newest one is mid 70s. They all run great.
Barnicle Bills is the place for parts and service.
We are Evinrude (65 years), Yamaha (25+years) and Tohatsu (20+years). We have seen a lot of backordered parts from all 3. Right now, we have Tohatsu oil filters on back order for over 2 mos. Had Yamaha parts on back order for over six months. Point being it's not just Evinrude. It's across the board.
If you want to do a productive video, do one on the G2. What a nightmare!
@@JosephGuion-d8q oh we’ve done G2 videos. Bad Bad Bad!!!
Is it possible to get your help with my evinrude? 2018 g2 150 2 stroke
Well I'll be looking for g1 motors to scoop up cheap and have fun converting them back to old school hot rod motors. Stand alone ecus are readily available.
I understand the frustration.
It is very incompetent of BRP.
The customer service is terrible.
It would have been a much, much better video without all the swearing that was bleeped.
Back in 2020 I repowered my 1976 Evinrude 25HP with a brand new 2020 Suzuki 20HP efi motor. I knew parts were gonna be impossible to get.
I love your no bullshit tell it like it is honestly. Rock on!
Tons of parts available aftermarket even on Amazon
Anyone that would ever trust brp to do the right thing needs mental help
I'm diehard Evinrude. And I'm with you only instead of🖕 Evinrude it's 🖕🖕🖕🖕BRP. I fully support what your saying as someone who hates what's happened but it needs to go a step further. Don't buy anything BRP if they'll bail on their customers for one thing they'll bail on them later. Same thing that happened to Remington firearms when the original co. went under they are junk built and no longer supported thru parts and I won't recommend anything Remington for the same reasons.
I'll just keep my Evinrude x flows alive forever!!!! Don't need any computers
The old GT/XP motors and the intruder /fastrike motors were great. I have 1 of each, still running good, carb motors rule!
I would repower but I'm sure I won't get anything on a trade. I have a 2009 200HP Etec. Guess I'll just run it until it blows
Is it hard to get parts for older evinrudes also or just the etecs
Lots of parts on the old stuff, even on Amazon.
when evinrude said they would farm the parts out i thought they would say that.Ihave been around long enough to not believe this