Fallout's Time Travellers and Time Machines | Fallout Lore
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- Опубликовано: 11 июл 2024
- During The Fallout Series we as players have been exposed to a long list of remarkable technologies. A few that come to mind are The Big Mountain Transportalponder and The Institute’s Molecular Relay which can teleport people in the blink of an eye from one place to another, and The Garden of Eden Creation Kit or GECK which can transform on demand a barren plot of land into a veritable oasis. But something that is hardly ever seen in Fallout is Time Travel and while it is incredibly rare to see it does appear quite a few times throughout the series.
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What if the Mysterious Stranger is a time traveller and it's in his best interest for his timeline for our main characters to be alive? I like this idea.
Never looked at it like that but that makes total sense. I love this theory
Plot twist, multiverse theory
That would explain him phasing into terrain and making me have to reload to my last save an hour ago.
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I don't know if it is cannon or not but since 3 hasn't he supposedly been an eldritch god named Farmer? So he could travel to and fro in time as he pleases.
Fallout also time traveled my dad into a few games as the mysterious stranger, returning every now and then for child support, but gone as quick as he showed up
He only keeps disappearing cause he forgot the milk
@@SiriusCygnus or his smokes
My dad keeps going for the Milk of human kindness, and the smokes of human peace.
Its random if he shows up each month, depending on your moms LCK stat obviously
Try to role a new build with better Luck
Ah quicksave/loading old saves...the ultimate form of time travel
In my cannon, the main character of the games is a time lord that can just change reality.
@@banditkeef3864 timelord can't do that and why don't you just have you no save files they aren't Cannon
With save files it’s like multiple timelines but new ones have to be created one at a time
@@banditkeef3864 That's, that's basically CHIM.
if you die while sneaking past a deathclaw, the game loads you back to your last save, sound like time travel to me.
The followers outpost in new Vegas is a tardis, it's a small tower top guard shack and when you go inside it has 3 rooms.
Man, I always thought that was a mod.
Ever seen the Solitude Lighthouse from Skyrim?
bethesda uses the "bigger on the inside" thing alot. though one building in new vegas has it's doors misaligned. if you go in one door you end up on the other end of the building.
Snoopy's dog house is a tardis.
Is he a time lord?
Wouldn't surprise me.
@@kennethlindahl9206 snoopy can suck eggs
I suspect the reason for the layout of corpses in the Monorail is that the war was starting and Professor Greebly, along with associates, made a desperate dash to the time machine to escape the war but ultimately were too late.
They did make it but they traveled back 2 minutes before the bombs dropped, instead of 2 years.
Or perhaps the time machine was a complete success and the other scientists were peers who wished to experience it, only he travelled forward in time, past the end of the war and emerged in the wasteland.
That's what I was thinking
What if Greebly just ended up making copies of himself from different timelines, or from different times. Considering the genre, maybe this caused a paradox, killing all of them.
@@masonjohnson4310 that's a good thought and quiet possible.
In the next Fallout game I think it'd be cool to have a side quest where you help a time traveler from the past get back to their time to change the future. Once you finish the quest and help them go back, nothing changes and the player should be left to wonder if the time traveler got vaporized, failed to change the timeline, or if it's like a Dragon Ball Trunks situation where going back and forth through time just created another timeline.
I think iv seen a mod kind of like that for fallout NV
But if the player helps a time traveller go FORWARD, after helping them do whatever they wanted to accomplish, why would the player see anything different?
They don't know what the future was to know if it changed or not.
Eh, it just means the time traveler had ALWAYS traveled to prevent the very thing they were the cause of. Cyclical time loop. Avoids paradoxes of "but if it never happened then how did they exist to travel back and stop it" shenanigans
Wacky wasteland territory
Can't work like that. We know you can change the past in Fallout because of Fallout 2's time travel quest which causes the events of Fallout 1.
Imagine in a future Fallout game where you go back in time to stop the nuclear war only to be the one that starts it.
You dingus, we warned you not to touch the time machine 😂
Chinese spies had entered a virus into NORAD and the PC attempt to stop the launch causes the war.
Or the PC attempts to sabotage the Chinese launch command and triggers the dead man switch
Don't touch the red obvious button that will kill/put everyone into the post-post-apocalyptic
Warned the US that China would nuke them. US launches invasion of China. China responds by nuking the US using their stealth fleet.
Vault-Tec was responsible for the war. They staged a false alarm to fill the vaults. But, crappy American defense systems registered the false alarm as real, and the missiles flew. You think the Chinese might have been a leeeeeeeetle surprised. Seeing as the alarm registered on THEIR systems as well.
Pylon V13 sounds like it could be a reference to back to the future pt3. Dr. Brown pushes the Delorean with a train to travel through time. He later makes a time machine out of a locomotive.
Genius!
He even sounds like he’s doing a bad Doc Brown impression.
that is what I was thinking of
Was gonna mention that
I never thought of that.
It's impressive how many Easter Eggs are in the fallout series
I agree.
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Agree
One of the things that got me into it from the first game.
When Interplay was making Fallout 3, I sent them a letter describing a scenario where the player character had a side quest where, via malfunctioning science experiment, they were sent back before the bombs dropped. Depending on how it turned out, you could game over as a rambling street preacher dying in the apocalypse, or you can change history so the experiment never happens. I forget the majority of the scenario, but I remember getting some sort of loot out of it.
They never responded to my letter.
That being an ending would be funny.
Homie, you gotta post that somewhere. You got a copy of the letter lying around?
@@ManiacX1999 nope! I lost the archive it was saved in.
It took Stephen Spielberg 10 years to respond to a letter I sent him when I was 5. Just be patient, lol.
Oh hell naw man how Steve gonna do you like that 😭
The whole idea of the time travelling monorail might be a reference to the Back to The Future, since the DeLorean also had to achieve a certain speed in order to time travel
I think of it as more of a dimensional rift akin to The Man in the High Castle
I'm convinced it's 100% a BttF reference. I mean listen to dudes voice. It sounds a bit like Nixon but it more sounds like Doc lol
I mean they did turn a train into the new time machine in the 3rd bttf
that original fallout concept goes crazy 😭😭
my headcanon for the V13 event is that the time machine actually works exactly as intended but the power the rift received from each moment it was connected built up as all those moments were now connected simultaneously across all moments the time machine existed for. The gateway itself is still powered because it's still receiving power from the moments before the feedback destroyed the wiring and killed everyone on board.
If they time traveled they couldn’t stay in our timeline so maybe they died on the spot for us since their souls and mind would’ve been put into their younger/older bodies in another point of time
Claire's "it's smaller on the outside" is still the best one.
Clara
Take a look at Nipton Town Hall, a nice Tree to the left, and some suspicious utility poles nearby.. and the time the clock stopped.. soo.. so very close..
There are even Romans walking around!
I wish they would do more with the time travel side story in the next game. It’s a really cool idea.
I second this
WHY?! The point of Fallout was a post-nuclear war RPG, not about the pre-war era or whatever else.
@@Bronasaxon Would be neat to see more of it tho, time travel and to an extent pre war
@@chrisdiokno5600 but that goes against the point of the themes of Fallout. It's like asking for Call of Duty to be Minecraft or something.
@@Bronasaxon Fair, but seeing more time travel would be a bit neat, even if it's just an Easter egg or side thing
Haven't gotten a fallout video recommendation in a very long time tbh I am very glad it you keep it up champ!
I've been waiting for this video since you first mentioned the topic. Great video, I love how you provide in-depth lore and theories! :)
With all the technological wonders created during that period I believe the most advanced vault had a time travelling device I think it play some part in the next fallout game for sure.
Thank You for these videos. I adore fallout lore and the games. It's great to learn more than the games give away.
Whilst not technically time travel, here's one many people don't know from Fallout 2(it's also an easter egg to something):
In Fallout 2, you can enter a hidden part of a cave in Broken Hills. Within it you can find a pre-war pilot called Chuck Stodgers that has been unconscious and preserved by the cave and can be woken up. You can talk to him and reveal to him what's happened to the world
good ol Duck Dodgers
i think that last bit of trying to change the past with time travel fruitlessly would be a great story. probably for fallout new vegas because that game leans heavily into the philosophy aspect of fallout more then fallout 3 or 4 did. the idea of fixing the past unsuccessfully only for the point to end along the lines of dealing with old world blues.
Great video! Thanks for making it for us.
Love your videos... thank you for all the work
It would be cool to see a vault where the experiment was time travel, maybe Vault-Tec was researching the effect of sending humans in and out of the future and past, seeing what it did to the body, and maybe you could meet someone in the vault that had been stuck in the past/future when the vault shutdown.
It’s unlikely to ever happen, and honestly time-travel in Fallout just wouldn’t fit unless there was a really good explanation or reasoning behind it, but it’s cool to think about.
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Nah, I think Greebly's time travel device worked just fine and they made several successful trips. The damage was caused by *something* that followed them back from one of their journeys and is still out there... *somewhere*.
You’ve taken Oxhorns position as the #1 Fallout Lore creator
@panzerfk06 true
Oxhorn makes his own stupid theories and changes lore.
oxhorn is a weird f slur
Imagine how terrifying it must be to be a Scientist in a secret Laboratory who travels into the Future and only finds a radioactive Wasteland. Especially terrifying if you've only traveled a few Years
I note you didn't mention V13's (vague) similarities to Doc Brown (invented a time machine that can be powered by electricity, and eventually builds a new one out of a train) or Die Nebenwelt (a tunnel that achieves time travel 'interdimensionally' vs a tunnel that just plain leads to another world).
Ohhh interesting topic here. Very excited to get stuck into this one. Don’t know if you take video suggestions from the comments but how about a video about Gen 3 Synths and the Coursers of the institute?
Why wait? We will meet them soon haha. Ever wonder what happens on those random islands around the world that countries "acquire"?
@@fananox2057 What happens to them?
@@fananox2057 what?
Awesome video as always. Love to watch them to chill in bed after a long day
Good ass video bro! 👍 I didn’t know about these encounters, especially because I have not played fallout 1 or 2
There's also "time travel" through VR. It's not exactly time-travel, but, we DO have it, notably in Operation Anchorage, but, that's different I guess.
I think time travel could play a role if it's a dlc that sucks your character into the past at a massive underground enclave vault that holds unique armor and weapons. Your actions will determine what condition the vault/area lies in after your return from time travel.
Skyrim but when you max all magic transports you into fallout 4 with all your shit
Loved it man!
Good video. Nice perspective. SUBBED!
You have a great voice for narrating, cadence and everything. Keep up the great work!
We had flashbacks relating to the supernatural horror in Bethesda Fallout, it wouldn't shock me if some day the player of transported back to see more than just a brief vision of the past.
"Professor Greebly", that's great.
8:20 love the grounded pun. Not sure if it was intentional, but brought me a good chuckle!
Keep up the great work.
Pylon V13 worked, but in the wrong way.
By pressing the button in the future you sent a charge to the past killing the man who made the time machine because he didn't expect the time machine to turn itself on before he was ready to use it.
It would be interesting if in a few quest there was someone who attempts to stop the great war only to fail and realize that it was impossible.
Or worse, fail and cause the spark that set's off the end.
Really interesting video!
Thanks for the video!
But Synon, I can't let go! I have a serious case of the Old World Blues
Leeets gooo new video. Im saving this for later.
I think time travel would be an interesting extra ending for a fallout game where no matter what you do if you choose to travel through time the war always happens
My ideal modern Bethesda time travel plot would be as you crest a hill way off in the distance there’s a lot of light and a large energy discharge. It takes you several minutes to run straight to it, but when you arrive you find a machine, still warm buzzing, and lightly smoking. Signs that someone was there recently are around but there’s no one now. It’s hard to decipher any writing on the machine, but eventually you get the jist (science check maybe) when you power it up a portal appears in the machine and you are able to enter. On the other side you’re in a futuristic civilization, built from the new world up, as or more advanced than the pre war era but using a different more stable energy source. You get a short quest line in this new area, or a multitude of tiny quests, (think fallout 4’s vault 81 for how much there is to do) you’re restricted to a limited area because they don’t want someone from the past running free but you’re welcomed in the limited area as a guest. Eventually when you’re done, you’ve earned a handful of unique items, a weapon, some armor, something like that. And when you step back through the machine shuts down behind you, and you’re approached by an NPC, the time traveler who came here with this device and he accuses you of breaking it. From there you could try to help him fix it, or he could be recruited for settlements if that mechanic sticks around, or he could go live in an established town, or he could even be a companion. It’d be kind of neat I think.
Unexpectedly interesting. Took a chance and got a pleasant surprise.
Excellent video.
I'm glad i found you Synonymous your videos are so interesting and well crafted. I can't watch other fallout RUclips now because your format is so perfect it feels wrong to learn about fallout lore from anyone else. You put a lot of effort into your videos and it shows and that's what keeps pulling me in. I can't wait for our next fallout story
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My theory on the portal with the dead scientists is that there was some kind of demonstration being given and the plain clothed individual, probably a *civilian,* snuck away from the tour, pushed the big red button, and killed everyone on board. The guy could've been a saboteur or someone who desperately wanted to change something in the past.
As far as the machine goes, there could've still been some adjustments needed to be made before traveling or maybe the device functioned similarly to the Delorian time-machine that Doc Brown made, where the time of travel was also important.
Your idea about traveling back in time to prewar is actually really good, it would be a really good way to show how many different potential causes for the great war exists
It remains one of my biggest disappointments that we never got to spend more time pre war with the Sole Survivor.
So the fallout 76 time travel one, it makes more sense that the scientists was giving a tour of the device to observers documenting his work and during said tour the bombs fell killing all the people.
Tenants sarcasm when he said "is it?? I hadn't noticed" 🤣
"His name became Synonymous-" me: "Roll Credits!"
As always, well executed and performed, Synonymous. I trust you had a good New Years? Stay safe, my guy.
I think the lone survivor should count as a time traveler, sure they only went forward and were frozen for that time, but for them it was basically time travel
Time is matter in motion so yes freezing yourself is a form of time travel. Of course going forward in time is easy as we are doing it now but its going back in time that's the hard part.
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I thought about that myself. The Jamaica Plain story was particularly sad for me. The sole survivor found the time capsule- the very last person in the wasteland who needed to find it.
By that logic we are all time travellers! :)
My theory for the Mysterious Stranger is that he is an alternate reality of us, and its for the best interest of all multiverses that we do the things we did in this timeline for the stability of all of em..
Ive always been an elderscrolls guy but this channel made me ralise how good the lore of fallout is as well
Glad to know there's a timeline where the Doctor saw what happened to Earth and was like, "nah, they can sort this one themselves"
I went back and listened to the Greebly tape twice, never played 76 but that was some fun voice acting
New headcanon, pelinal whitestrake is a displaced person from the fallout universe wearing power armor
If a time travel storyline like the one you posited were ever incorporated, I think it would work best one of two ways.
One, with the premise being that of a self-correcting timeline - one in which any changes attempted in the past might have some minor effect but all they achieve is forestalling the future to prevent a paradox. Time travel could not be invented, after all, if the impetus to create and use it (the Great War) had not occurred. This has potential for subjecting the player(s) to multiple potential timelines as they attempt to effect a change which the space/time continuum simply won't allow them to. This is not something that's often laid out explicitly in sci-fi as a concept but it could be interesting even though it largely strips the protagonist(s) of agency in their actions. The drama here would come from acceptance of how history will unfold and that it cannot be avoided - only survived.
Two, similarly tragic and futile but from a different angle. Changes made in the past do take effect and the War is averted and/or the US is able to claim total victory over the PRC. The narrative to follow is that this does not solve the ills of the Pre-War world but rather compounds them. The corruption and imperialism of those still-extant nation is allowed to fester. Any combination of continued tension between remaining nuclear powers, unimpeded and unchecked FEV / bioweapons research, or other unforeseen horrors leads to a future where humanity indeed goes extinct. In similar fashion to concept One, the player(s) can attempt to make changes to avoid this but the only way to do so is by preserving the Great War timeline. There could even be a twist in the form of another time traveler from one of the alternate futures of humanity on the path to extinction helping you to restore the original flow of history even though it will lead to them vanishing from existence.
God I hope they don't start doing a bunch of time travel stuff in fallout they already have a problem deciding what is canon and what's not with 76
Welcome to sci fi. I love star Trek but it's cannon is a shit show 😅
Pylon V13 became my Playerhome. I built my CAMP nearby for the Ressources and great View from up there.
That police box is the biggest cell phone I've ever seen...
I do like how the guardian of forever is the canonical reason the first game's plot happens, that means that they took a tiny little joke and decided to make it story critical for no other reason other than them thinking it would be funny
I dig the videos on fallout lore thats actually obscure
I just find it so cool and bizarre that Fallout had the TARDIS appear for an easter egg. Implying a version of the Doctor exists in the Fallout universe.
There’s a mod for new Vegas that’s technically lore friendly that adds an entire DLC’s worth of Dr. Who content.
I’m loving the Fallout/2 callbacks! To me, they’re the best.
I love the classics :)
Interesting idea... Have a vault dweller time travel back to pre-great war Vault Tek to try and stop them from starting the war only to discover that characters own actions started the war (I mean basically launched the 1st nukes)
My favorite reaction to the TARDIS is when one of his companions says it's smaller on the outside and the doctor gets upset
Fallout 76 has a time traveler "radio drama" as the theme for one of the seasons. During that season you could earn the time traveler's back-pack time machine. But it doesn't seem to work anymore. It broke when the traveler returned to their time.
I love time travel stories and I think it could be really neat - to add some event where we could... travel either back to Pre-War Time or forward into Boston Commenwealth or something, but they should be really careful - it's easily could became cringefest or create some plotholes.
Nah just don’t mess with time travel it makes the lore very messy
@@spoiledsalad1851 there are also eldritch gods in the lore. So it is already pretty fucky
the chosen one has created a time paradox
I will die on the hill of claiming that my tardis mod is lore friendly
remember that time in fallout 4 when the nukes went off and the Sole Survivor was cryogenically frozen for 210 years? (technically time travel, but forward)
I didint know that there was time travel in fallout
Wasn't there a cut character in Fallout 4 that was supposed to be the Sole Survivor from the future?
Where did you learn this?
@@DarthVader-sp8fe TheEpicNate315 has done a bunch of videos on Fallout 4's cut content. I don't remember the exact video, though.
My headcannon is that Greely opened the portal, but instead of entering it, something/someone came out instead and murdereated everyone
The loop of V13 could easily be powered by the generator. The rail is likely carrying the load
I'm not sure but am guessing you can build a camp there. It might be interesting to put down a new generator and try connecting power to those connectors. I never thought to try the only time I visited that pylon.
I feel like if time travel shows up in a fallout game, it would be as a reinforcement of the theme of letting go. If a sufficiently advanced organization (e.g. The Institute or another Enclave holdout) were to attempt to undo the Great War, or perhaps an earlier event, there's a good chance their efforts would either result in history as we know it, or make everything worse, as time travel stories tend to do.
"its smaller on the outside"
So would this make the doctor canon to fallout lore? XD
Very cool video
We need a Fallout game where we are the goofy Time traveling guys traveling the universe seeing atrocities
I personally think the Mysterious Stranger is many different people. That's why he's in all the games
Institute courser sent back in time to preserve the time stream.
Fallout and Doctor Who are two of my favourite franchises ever so seeing the TARDIS in Fallout made me explode a bit
I like the idea of the mysterious stranger appearing from the future to keep the timeline in check. Like a gumshoe psijic order member.
There should be a game were you play as the mysterious stranger possibly time traveling to stop the great war and fucking it up only to be stuck between time saving the lone wonder and the courier!
My head-canon is that V-13 worked but made a portal to the explosion of the nuclear blast which shot through the portal vaporizing them all.
Now we know the Fallout Who Vegas mod is canonical.
could you do a lore video on the minute men? :3
Still discovering new facts and easter eggs in Fallout. Truly an amazing series.
Hail the Great and mighty sausage God his mighty links will save us from salmonella
Not quite the same as the rest, but the prisoners aboard the zetan mothership traveled through to the future as well as the sole survivor against their wills