I wonder if anybody in the wasteland noticed that every few years there's a person that suddenly emerges from nowhere and somehow despite all odds tremendously changes the world around them.
New Vegas occasionally makes references to the first two games with that idea in mind. Not as good as Neloth in Skyrim lampshading your whole MO when you ask him for money, but still.
I mean this is the same as George Washington, he just showed up and invented one of the richest countries in the modern day. Edit: he was apparently super rich.
This is the real story. As the Lone Wanderer walks into the wasteland the camera fades to black. They find themselves in the back of a wagon as they slowly wake up. Ralof of Riverwood sitting across them wakes them up with "Good, you're finally awake." Todd Howard, you've done it again.
I think it is very interesting that the B.O.S in Fallout 4 doesn't seem to have access to Zetan tech. This seems to imply that the Lone Wanderer didn't fully trust them to reveal it's existence.
I've never bought in to the supposed death of Lyons' pride, and long suspected that Maxson either pulled something shady to get them out of the way, or that they faked their own deaths to avoid that impending occurrence. If it came down to picking sides, I don't think there's much question as to where the LW would stand. It's understandable that there was just too much going on in the main game for him to find the time to share that information, but it could well have been a matter of prudence to not mention it after the fact, especially if the LW has suspicions about the Brotherhood's new Elder.
@@drakeford4860 it's doubtful he had a hand in it considering he was 11 and looked up to Sarah. However I wouldn't put it past people in the brotherhood to kill Sarah and groom Maxson
@@brotherhoodofsteel4751 That is a fair point, though looking back into history, we do find examples of such youths knocking off their competition here and there. It's rare, but not unheard of, and looking at the man Maxson has become in under a decade, I'm not ruling anything out. Not to say I completely disdain the man. Despite some... _issues,_ I generally quite respect the East Coast's latest Elder, but he certainly carries a vibe of willingness to do whatever needs to be done. Regardless, I feel there was definitely some amount of fowl play involved. Frankly, there just wasn't anything left in the wasteland that could believably kill off Sarah, let alone the whole of Lyons' Pride- which likely would have had the LW riding shotgun on at least some of their missions following Broken Steel.
From a canonical rather than gameplay perspective the fact that the Brotherhood references him so little in Fallout 4 points towards some sort of acrimony between the two in my view. Perhaps he fell out with the BOS after Sarah Lyons death and there has been an effort to downplay his importance as he might have been a potential rival to Maxson?
Good lead. Also another guy said in the comments that the fact that the BoS didn't have alien technology in FO4 proves that the lone wanderer didn't trust the BoS.
@@rysephoenix8643 probably both lol, after finishing broken steel sarah says something like if things werent so crazy she wishes she could get to know the wanderer more
I actually kinda like this theory and it would make sense, and with the brotherhood being so secretive and Manson being an arrogant b!tch I could see why the wanderer would leave after Sarah dies, or maybe they were on the same fire team and died together. Who knows?
In fallout 4, I turned zimonja outpost into a camp for the lone wanderer. There's a set of winterized t-51 power armor, a weapon rack with the Metal Blaster, and a doghouse for dogmeat. I like to imagine he came to the commonwealth to keep an eye on the brotherhood of steel he once respected.
I do like the concept of the Courier walking into the Atomic Wrangler or Mojave outpost and bumping shoulders with the Lone Wanderer and one of them saying "Hay man watch it!"
The theory of the simulation has a huge problem, Dr. Li, McCready and Sierra we see them in Fallout 4, how could Dr. Braun's simulation actually have people he has no idea exist
Same reason that "player is a synth" theory starts to crumble. You can encounter people from your past in the wasteland who have no institute connections.
“yeah the guys that played the beta said it was a bit too twilight zone creepy, and wanted more “mad max in the 1950’s”creepy whatever the hell that means”
Haha, if you convince the Aqua Pura raiding gang to give up on their plans, the first thing they do is gun down poor Granny Sparkle before waking away.
Moira does refer to the Lone wonderer as a "He" several times in the fallout 4 content, so we know that much. Perhaps that was meant to echo fallout 2, where we discover that the vault dweller's gender was male.
That would honestly be really cool, but definitely unlikely. I could see them hiding a couple of Zetans somewhere in Starfield as an Easter Egg, but I don't think it would go any further than that.
I always played Vegas as if my character was the lone wanderer still just with bullet induced amnesia. Added more weight to the lonesome road storyline.
New Vegas only takes place 4 years after Fallout 3, so timeline wise I don’t think it’s possible for the LW to make their way to NV and do all the things the Courier has done in just 4 years.
Well, he/she *has to* at least leave the Brotherhood at some point along with Star Paladin Cross, as I can't see either one condoning the (heavily implied) assassination of Sarah Lyons by Arthur Maxon.
After Sarah died I tried to commit suicide, due to my healing mutations that didnt work, so Me, Clover, the rest of the Tunnel Snakes and the citizens of bigtown went to texas on our alien mothership. in texas I met Paladin Brother Joseph and the Brotherhood of Skulls, and brokered a peace between them and the Texas brotherhood of steel there who they had broken away from over their refusal to assist the ghouls. continued exploring west visiting the mojave & new california. then off to japan and china. now im in the commonwealth hanging out with my great-aunt who was frozen for like 200 years, life's crazy sometimes
If I remember correctly isn't Maxon really upset by Sarah's death, and that it wasn't him who orchestrated the assassination but someone else attempting to put Maxon in power
More than implied that Arthur found out she was a synth also there's a possibility he's like Kellogg because there's a entry examining he has heavy machine augmentations
@@acidpain6059 people are dumb and blinded by their hatred of Maxson. But of course! An 11 year old organized the assassination of a Brotherhood Sentinel! One he was trained by and had a crush on no less
Right after the Lone Wanderer takes the G.O.A.T test, the room is pumped with knockout gas and you see a white flash. You and your classmates are carried off to a hidden room containing the simulation pods. From that point on, you are in a simulation created by Vault-Tec to determine what career in Vault 101 you will have. You are given a simulation where you get the opportunity to become either a Messiah, True Mortal or Devil. How you go through the simulation and interact in that world determines your Karma and anyone who would be too destructive/anti-social for Vault life is disposed of. Because in Vault 101, nobody ever enters and no one ever leaves.
Yeah ngl I kind of like this idea as a sad and gritty reality for the lw. I mean somehow a 19yo who shot a rad roach once took on the enclave and destroyed them in potentially less than a week. Seems a little too crazy.
I still don't get it how that's possible. Didn't the ship get wrecked by the wanderer and by the other ship in the final battle? I was suprised that it even worked at the end of the dlc.
@@kerruo2631 no the ship splits into two and you battle and destroy the other half of the ship. Afterwards it's fully space worthy as you can return to the ship in space anytime.
Theory 4 is my favorite. I do the whole story discover the whole map complete all the quest then do the all the dlc's and then do mothership zeta and that's where I end my playthrough and start the next fallout
Same I complete all the quests I can find and beat the game then I do the DLC as stories that happened after the events of the main story and Broken Steel I also nuke Megaton at very good karma which then bumps me down to neutral I pick the end game neutral perk then Butch and I spend the rest of our days flying through space making sure the galaxy knows.. “Tunnel Snakes rule!”
I like the simulation theory. Did you know on the Steam Store page, Fallout 3’s description reads: Vault-Tec engineers have worked around the clock on an interactive reproduction of Wasteland life for you to enjoy from the comfort of your own vault. Included is an expansive world, unique combat, shockingly realistic visuals, tons of player choice, and an incredible cast of dynamic characters.
Since their journey mirrored the Vault Dweller’s, I always figured just like the Vault Dweller the Lone Wanderer got disillusioned with the capital wasteland and its changes ( his/her exile from vault 101, the brotherhood’s fall into tyranny, ect.) and they left, heading either north or south with other defectors and started a new community.
I think he’s like the survivalist just trying to survive and helping people on the way and moving from place to place,town to town, city’s and all the above
I personally think that the photograph implies the Wanderer's parents were originally from Vault 21, and came to the Capital Wasteland with the Brotherhood expedition. Furthermore, that Sarah might be related to them. So... if one were to play a Courier who IS the Lone Wanderer... and got far enough in her unmarked quest... Just imagine that for a moment: He's basking in the afterglow, she heads to the bathroom, then he rolls over on his side and sees THAT hanging on her wall.
But… Vegas comes after… and we know the lone wanderers parents were born in vault 101 before him, and his “family tree” was in the vault since the bombs dropped…for generations… and then only freed after his dad escaped… Doesn’t really make ANY sense what you described… It would really NEED to be the other way around, like the video states… and the wanderer came to the Mojave AFTER… Nothing can really place him or his parents there “originally”
@@BoboMcBooboy As far as I know, there's nothing in the game that connects your parents to Vault 101. Aside from what your dad tells you at the start, pretty much all of which turned out to be a lie. As for the rest, I meant the Wanderer himself may have made his way to the Mojave years after Fallout 3 ended. I don't honestly think the theory holds water if you think about it for too long, but it's just something interesting to think about. Regardless, I *do* want to know why in hell Obsidian did decide to put that picture of the Lone Wanderer's parents in Vault 21. Them being from there is just the only way I can think of to explain it in-universe.
I like to think the Lone Wanderer just went on to live a fairly average life for the time he was in. He was just an ordinary guy who answered his call to action in extraordinary fashion. Chances to be a hero don't come around often. Some people never get a single chance. A deviation from the norm like what TLW experienced must eventually revert to mean. It'd be cool to see an older version, settled down with kids, a wife, couple dogs, and a robot on a little farm. Telling stories of his adventures in a local pub and the younger crowd thinking he's exaggerating. Being the "fixer" for any problems from bullies, to illness, computers, locks, guns, food & water, survival, etc. Just one of those old guys that seems like they can do anything and make it look natural doing it. But then complaining about his bad back and sore gunshot scars, hard at hearing from all the hell he's been through, maybe a bit paranoid from the lingering ptsd but prefers to think of it as, "being prepared". Great heros, beginning as normal people and eventually returning as normal people are my favorites heros.
All though I don't agree with the Deacon theory, there's another point to it. Sometimes when you initiate conversation with Deacon, he'll say "Are we having fun yet?" Now ik this is a stretch but in the Point Lookout DLC, Nadine says that everytime you initiate conversation.
If the simulation theory is true, then that means fallout nv and 4 are also simulations since they reference fallout 3 a lot. Project purity is talked about by the brotherhood and deacon in fallout 4, same with the enclave in far harbor. My personal head Canon is that the lone wanderer is the Courier and that fallout nv is just a continuation of the fallout 3 character storyline.
@@trabordo I know its never gonna be a true things sadly since the they are problems but, that's why its my head Canon for my role playing characters, even if there's problems
that simulation theory is honestly really, really stupid I personally never liked dream theories or simulation theories because I think they’re lazy plot twist garbage theories with no weight or value, and that perfectly lines up with that
The loan wonder probably just left the capital wasteland and probably just keep doing what he or she does best wonder probably to places like ronto or some other unexplored places and post apocalyptic world at least that’s what would make the most sense
Anything could have happened to The Lone Wanderer. #1: They could have lived a peaceful life with a family. #2: They could be ripping apart the wasteland for epic adventures. #3: Or The Lone Wanderer could have tragically committed suicide. Maybe they did all three in the order of 2-1-3
After maxing their level cap the Lone Wanderer went to Australia to hunt regular, unradiated wildlife (for a challenge). They were killed by a drop-bear in the first week.
The existence of Fallout 4 kinda wrecks the simulation theory, I'd like to think that Deacon's last story is his actual honest one. The developers have said the photo in New Vegas was just an unused asset from Fallout 3 and thus doesn't have any meaning. So that really just leaves Zeta,
Deacon is likely not the LW as he has been to New Vegas. At some point in traveling with Deacon he tries an “overide code he won in a card game in Vegas”. I like the galactic traveler theory
@@Synonymous101 Now that you mention it, it would be cool to see some unique random encounters or something like lore-friendly mods that enhance the gameplay or make it more challenging etc... Keep it up
@@Synonymous101 Well I personally use "Fellout", it basically retextures the sky to look blue, I also use "Longer Days", "Vicious Wastes", which makes the game harder and changes a lot of stuff to make it more realistic too, and I haven't downloaded this one, but "Collapsed DC" seems interesting, it adds a whole new are into the game.
Honestly, I always imagined the Lone Wanderer just settling down in Megaton. My headcanon tells me that after the final battle at the air force base, the Wanderer was finally allowed to just breathe. Logically they've been going non stop since getting woken up by Amata the day they left the Vault, after that he searched the Capital Wasteland for his father and got embroiled with the war against the Enclave. He's never given a chance to just pick up the pieces of his shattered life and after the air force base battle, the pain of everything finally sets in and he winds up suffering from PTSD. He would probably try to fight his mental illness by getting back out in the Wasteland, sidequesting, going to Far Harbor, the Pitt and his curiosity getting the better of him with the alien signal. But at the end of the day all he's doing is making his likely fragile mental state worse. He decides that hanging up the rifle and trying to stop the endless fighting would be best for him. Maybe he'd be like Jericho and use his experience to act as a guard, but rarely goes out into the Wasteland except to hunt for food. Probably battles with a bout of alcoholism, but eventually is able to live peacefully in his Megaton home. Perhaps eventually Amata would finally start opening the vault up and they'd finally be together.
I always got the impression that he was tired of working with BOS and left DC. If he didn't blow up the Cidedel (and FO4 Canon supports this), then he left to explore west, Vault Dweller style. Because if he were still around, Sarah Lyons would still be alive, Maxon would still be a Knight or Paladin and BOS would still be in the Capitol Wasteland helping out with the locals. After all, he singlehandedly won the war with the Enclave. BOS couldn't have accomplished 1/4 of what they did without the Lone Wanderer. Fact not opinion.
@@ericlopez8795 every settlement in the capital wasteland sucks. But you get a free home there and people worship the ground you walk on if you're nice to them
Blown away by the effort and quality of the editing in your videos. So many other people just put gameplay in the background. Not knocking those guys but I really appreciate the extra effort and attention to detail.
There was actually cut content in Fallout 4 from the cut Wild Wasteland perk that didn't make it into the game where you get a random encounter with someone that could spawn male or female that strongly suggested they are the Lone Wanderer. The dialogue would have said they grew up in a vault in the Capital Wasteland (Vault 101 being the only still active vault there), how their mother died shortly after giving birth, their father who died to save them was seen as a hero for his work that ultimately purified the water there, how the Brotherhood Of Steel helped them and it was them that suggested to them to start spreading out across East Coast to help others, how someone from their team left and went to the Institute and this person who could be the Lone Wanderer came to Boston to see how bad it was for themselves. It was also mentioned if you have Dogmeat with you this person instantly recognizes him, says it good to see him after ten year (Fallout 4 takes place 10 years after Fallout 3), and would say something along the lines of of how Dogmeat after helping someone will always seek someone else that is needing of help and is happy he found someone who needed help and how he's been like a guardian angels to others.
My issue with the Deacon theory are the references to Deacon in the Railroad HQ terminal as early as 2273 (or 2266 if you accept the theory that John D. referenced in that entry later changes his name to Deacon.) Since Fallout 3 takes place in 2277, it seems unlikely that the Lone Wanderer is Deacon.
What if Deacon is just a codename, and they train a new person to become the next deacon. Every time he "changes faces" it is actually just a new person becoming the identity of deacon. That's how he was ghoul for a bit because the current deacon was a ghoul.
@@sirostrich6035 Possible, but it doesn't track with the text of the terminal entries. The Railroad wasn't all that well organized at first, leading to a massive loss to Institute synths in 2266. Somewhere between then and 2273 they started compartmentalizing information. That lead to a more resilient organizational structure with multiple cells operating throughout the Commonwealth without being fully aware of one another. According to the entries, Deacon was the one who started those changes, much to the annoyance of the actual leader of the Railroad. Between that and the existence of instant face-changing cosmetic surgery in-universe, it's more likely Deacon is the same guy, running a long game to see the Railroad through to victory.
Assuming the dates in the terminal are correct and not hacked (which Deacon knows how to do) or that his current identity isn’t lifted from that entry (neither Desdemona or anyone in the current railroad ever meet JD). A strong argument for Deacon theory is the fact he casually mentions Code Violet (Harkness reset code, all the ones in Fallout 4 are different and thus these appear unique), alongside the other stuff with the Capital Wasteland. Leaves only two possibilities, he’s an unseen partner of Victoria Watts OR he’s the Lone Wanderer.
@@Freshie207 It doesn’t leave only two possibilities. It can leave any number of possibilities. Harkness is a verrrry special case. He was a Courser himself, a damn high ranking one. Not only that, but he was special enough that the head of one of the Institute’s departments went chasing after him personally. Harkness’ importance is further emphasised by the fact that a nascent Railroad ensured he was kept under watch all the way in Washington DC. There’s no way they afford this level of care to every Synth, let alone at such a time that they were so much smaller. With all that said, there can be many reasons why Deacon would know the code.
Papa Of The Johns That would be covered under unseen partner. Additionally the idea that Harkness is special is entirely conjecture, we’ve not seen if the Institute sends personal after escaped Synths, or under what circumstances that may happen. Hell Zimmer could be a Synth copy of himself, Synth components aren’t an Item in Fallout 3 so we can’t even prove he’s human.
Problem with Bethesda Games. They want to be all spooky and mysterious about it. Unlike Black Isles studio, who to my own preference just went "this is what they did after, and then they died due to x." Realistically, the Lone Wanderer likely stopped wandering after the events of the game, to retire in some spot, creating their own place (small home or even founding a village) And then died at a ripe old age, leaving a legacy of a small community.
Someone mentioned how you can find the Red Rocket station in 4 with everything to indicate it was the home of an adventurer. Dogmeant is there too. I think they went to the Commonwealth, lived in the station with Dogmeat, then died, which explains why Dogmeat is fine with the Sole Survivor.
I think he just left the Capital and started wandering the continent. He has so many bad memories and traumatic events that happened in the Capital that staying there probably wouldn't be healty for his mental state. Like a friend of my family. He had some very bad memories in my hometown, so he completely left the country to get mentally healed.
The lone wanderer can't be Deacon. Johnny D founded the railroad before the events of FO3, and we know that Johnny D is Deacon. I like the idea of it, but it seems to conflict with other lore.
Wouldn't be the first time Bethesda screwed up the lore, or the last. Remember, they treat fallout 3 like it's right after the bombs dropped and not many years after like how it is, same with 4 despite being stated to be over 200 years later places still look like they haven't been touched despite the fact the radiation would've died down well by then, and pipe weapons locked away in prewar safes untouched. Child ghoul in 4 despite Raul in NV becoming one as a child and growing old as a ghoul. Bethesda doesn't care about logic if they can do something they think is cool.
For my LW, he achieved a high rank with the BOS stayed at the citadel. Eventually leaving after Sarah Lyon died. Feeling the organization wasn’t what it was anymore and retired and started a farm with a family. Was my head canon ending
Thank you Sir! I am sure that The entire fallout 3 and next in series is The endless rebooting matrix with respawned enemies and a melody from V112. Every npc (from radroach to alien) is one of many vault people, connected to the matrix to exist as radroaches etc...endless respawn
I like to think he wandered around the wasteland before settling down in the Mojave, where he then became the Courior. My only reason is because that's how Tale of Two Wastelands ties the two games together, but from what I can tell, there's really no conditions. The lone wanderer settled down as a Courior for the Mojave express, he stashed away his weapons in what became the divide, keeping only a gun for self defense, hence how he was so easily taken down by Benny. Though I also like the theory where he settled down in the Brother Hood of Steel with Sarah Lyons and they died in battle. It just seems fitting to me.
This is a good theory but it doesn’t really make sense because In fallout new Vegas the courier doesn’t even know what the brotherhood is since they ask a lot of questions and have no clue what they do or what they are. the Courier ask a lot of questions abt the Brotherhood
@@multihacker3695 *2277. Traveling from the Capital to the Mojave in the Zetan Ship wouldn't take long; the order you deliver packages is never specified so the Divide could've been your first Courier job.
@@alpacalover0 It's a cool theory but the courier is stated to have made a thriving town in the pre-devide by being the only one who could/would traverse the dangerous reigon.
Deacon cannot be the lone wander the timelines do not match up for their stories Deacon has been in the railroad for longer than The lone wonder has been known in the wasteland Deacon does not have a pit boy nor is recognised or hinted at by any of the other npcs the lone wander would know such as Lee Madison And mccready So there is no way deacons punk ass could be the lone wanderer.
Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah i'm not buying it. Im not buying that it's a simulation. I mean he even says it himself 3:52 "that's because for SOME. REASON." I mean really? So without any idea the game somehow continues past the supposive "failsafe" that the overseer was denying the player somehow by some miracle actually worked? I'm not buying anything you're selling mate. There's way to many holes in that theory for it to be convincing.
I think the simulation theory can be used for any fallout game It would explain quick saving fast traveling and loading screen advertisements It would explain the unexplainable pit boy powers like VATS It would explain the weird TV screen seen whenever u boot up the game It would explain the weird narrations and intros and endings of the games
I'm so happy I have the Game of the Year edition of Fallout 3. I don't want get stuck in a loop where I have to kill Col. Autumn, then start the Purifier...and it restarts
I always cringe when I hear "simulation" or "dream" in theory videos, because you know that person had no creativity in their head and couldn't connect the dots together so just went the easiest way out and "it's in a dream/simulation, so anything can happen". I ignore those ideas.
Another thing with deacon is that he has a fair amount of knowledge of old world stuff like history and literature. He quotes Shakespeare at times iirc, and has a line "and here I wanted to spend the day reading proust" in response to combat On one hand this could maybe be explained by him supposedly coming from University Point, but would also be explained excellently by him being a vault dweller. He also mentions the capital wasteland more than once. About the brotherhood he says "in capital wasteland, they weren't so bad, but now...", he also makes a comment abt the Washington monument when you go to bunker hill
There are terminals in the railroad that only unlock after you complete the campaign with the railroad, and they confirm dates of Deacon that would compromise him being the lone wanderer
The main problem with the Deacon one is that it's heavily implied he's Johnny d which would put him in the Commonwealth 11 years before the events of Fallout 3 if true. No another potential reason why mothership zeta theory might be Canon is when you look at the timeline it does take place after broken Steel so he could have just left on the spaceship and never came back. One of my own personal theories is he just returned to vault 101 or went to Appalachia.
The lone wanderer returning to Vault 101 wouldn't make sense. After we finish the quest that deals with the fallout of our escape from Vault 101, regardless of who becomes the new overseer, we are exiled from the vault
I have two possible theories. The first one is that eventually, The Lone Wanderer was accepted back into Vault 111 where they settled down to a peaceful life. Perhaps asking their friends on the outside to keep their actual location a secret so that they could live in peace without being pestered. The other theory is that they stayed with the Brotherhood but after the death of Sara Lyons went rogue in some manner, perhaps suspecting foul play.
The thing about games like fallout is that I think the “”right”” answer is whatever you think YOUR character done, its all roleplay anyway, obviously there is a “canon” set of actions that take place but still I feel the intended “answer” is one you fill on your own Of course I do still enjoy thinking about the “canon” answer! So this video is def interesting
One thing I see in the ending scene that isn’t really talked about is dog meat. I kinda wonder if the lone wonderer happened to live in that red rocket station near sanctuary since it did have almost everything a player would need or even in sanctuary itself since there was some evidence of recent habitation.
Maybe the LW went to the Commonwealth, and made a home in the Red Rocket station. I think they died somehow, because Dogmeat accepts the SS as their new master. :(
I like to think the Wanderer was done in the Capital Wasteland and just started walking, travelling America helping where he could or taking what he wanted. Doing whatever, realistically at the end of Fallout 3, you don’t have anything to do, and therefore the wanderer doesn’t as well, much like the player leaving the game behind, the Wanderer leaves the wasteland and continues on in their life
@@rikusawada6113 I might be mistaken, but I thought the Divide timeline is ambiguous, or even if its true at all is left as ambiguous? Either way, I'm not saying its the actual lore, I'm saying its one of the roleplay options I find fun. The other roleplay I like is to pretend that Chance possessed the Courier's body after he was shot in the head, which is why the first thing I always do is go for Chance's Knife.
I feel like he spent the rest of his life with Sarah Lyons Edit: I remembered she died a few years later he probably went to the commonwealth like everyone else.
A theory I have is that the lone wanderer is dead. The lone wanderer died outside the red rocket and dogmeat stayed there. Eventually the sole survivor runs into dogmeat where dogmeat took a liking to the sole survivor as he reminded him of his previous owner
My theory being that with everything the Lone Wanderer went through, it probably took a tole on their health and while they lived for some time after the events, their story and the legend of those times went with him to an early grave. I mean he had no home, no real family anymore, he was forced out of where he lived, went through a bunch of traumatic battles to get to his father, was exposed to various forms of radiation(sometimes on purpose, resulting in mutations) and forced to subsist on old expired food he found and drink at least some irradiated water, and this was pretty early in his life. his youthful vigour probably carried him through all of it, but a few years after the events he probably expired from various wounds and conditions he had developed, because war never changes. The game makes various comparisons to the bible and the bible has plenty of insinuation about sacificing oneself for the betterment of mankind, he got all the clean water and cleared out the super mutants and did several other good things and then died before he could enjoy any of it. "I am alpha and omega, the beginning and the end". The father sacrifices the son/himself in a way to save mankind, i guess? I'm not really a bible guy but that's just my surface reading of it.
Well except for that line of dialog with the lonsome drifter which confirms the courier was in montana in 2264 which is before the lone wanderer leaves the vault.
If Decon isn’t the Lone Wanderer he’s at least a reference to him/her also here’s a fun theory Sally is most likely the same Sally from one of Fallout 76’s holotape stories about a little girl who was abducted by aliens it suits the lore considering Sally had been on the ship longer than anyone else and Fallout 76 takes place centuries before Fallout 1, 2, 3, 4 and New Vegas I know she could’ve aged but as Mothership Zeta has shown they have cryopods as well as for all we know she could’ve been a lot younger when she was originally abducted
@@bendover9813 Still Sally from 76 might be the same girl IMO bc regardless of how long ago it was it was for a fact before Fallout 3 and cryostasis could’ve kept her young there’s a video about this somewhere on RUclips but I don’t remember what it’s called I went on a lore tirade a few months ago and that’s where I first heard the idea I think
@@Amoncarybab I honestly don’t know I can’t remember whether or not she did in the holotape though I know by the time of Mothership Zeta she’s alone as in with no one she knew or was related to outside of who she meets during the DLC events
Fallout 5. The sole Survivor, The Courier, The lone wanderer. Meet up at a campfire tell there stories and go there own seperate ways before showing the new character we play as.
im 7 months late but my theory is that they became a ghoul due to the radiation from project purity. after they woke up, they picked up their gear and started wandering (ha) the wasteland and helping people out (if you had good karma). maybe in a future game we’ll come across a nameless ghoul in a leather jacket and vault suit who offers you a can of water or a stimpak before disappearing into the wastes
The end of vanilla Fallout 3 (No Broken Steele) states the Lone Wanderer eventually left the capital wasteland. My head canon has always been that he is courier 6 and the shot to the head from Benny causes amnesia forcing him to relearn everything. Bit of a stretch I know, but I mean a package courier is pretty fitting occupation for a lone wanderer. And it gives you a reason to play both games back to back lol.
I know there’s holes in it, but I like to think he tried to leave his past behind, and ended up in New Vegas, taking the job as a Courier before being ambushed, and shot in the head.
Even though there’s holes like you said I always pretend that’s what happened when o play the games 😂 my last playthrough I did the same thing but due to the shot in the head he started losing his sanity and joined the legion and killed everyone lmao
Main holes are the Courier’s backstory events as laid out in Lonesome Road, the destruction of The Divide happened likely prior to the events of fallout 3, and its pretty much canon that the courier was born in, or lived in California for some time
@@WendiGonerLH Well if we tweak the timeline and add or rest a few years we can say that the LW travel from the Capital to California, where he/she worked as a Courier delivering stuff and helped the community of the Divide, then he/she delivers the wrong package and everthing blows up and then you're shot in the head and the events of FNV take place (or well thats in my head canon)
I'm fairly sure the canon ending for the Lone Wanderer was he died starting the water purifier. The expanded DLC ending was for the player's benefit but officially, the Lone Wanderer died at the end of Fallout 3 completing their parent's work.
this was a really cool video! I would love the deacon theory to be true but there is a lot of contrary evidence. I highly suggest this video by TheEpicNate315 from this timestamp ruclips.net/video/WyE8LrYPLWg/видео.html (ik he's a big channel but it is a really well put together video with good information). The biggest factors to disprove it are: - datamined textures that depict a carving of deacon's former wife's name, as per his last story - deacon's travel dialogue alluding to his wife - deacon referring to himself as an ex-farmer when boarding a vertibird during the "Rockets' Red Glare " quest
My theory is a simple one: The Lone Wonderer isn’t anyone in any game besides the player in 3, I think the whole point of the lone wonderer is that no matter how good you are of a person, you will be eventually be forgotten, I think that instead of going north, he took a similar role to the courier and watched over the places they helped, Likely using the zetan mothership to explore or faster travel, probably even to bring the others on the ship back where they came if they wanted to. He could’ve waged a galactic conquest against the zetans and defending earth after being exiled from the brotherhood, (explaining the crashed zetan ship in NV and 4)
Ah although if you watch Oxhorn deacon video, apparently his name is John Deacon and he might have been the actually founder of the rail road decade back
I haven't seen it so sorry in advance if I say something that wasn't in the video. Deacons name is never mentioned, John D (assuming that's what you mean) could stand for John Doe (a man of unknown name) or it could even be Johnny D from the atom cats. As for being the founder I thought that was someone from the Institute? I can't remember their name and I could be remembering it wrong. As I said I'm far less versed on fallout 4's lore than the earlier games so take it easy on me 👍
@@Synonymous101 The entire Railroad thibg is stupid. They have been around for ages and works thanks to their insider in the Institute who is a teenage boy. Like... huh? Him? He's way too young.
I think Sarah from vault 21 in NV could be the woman (Moria describes her as a girl not a woman in fo3 so she could’ve been as young as the wanderer around the time that Moria met her) who left vault 101 a few month or years before you did and that’s why she has the picture next to her bed. You never meet this woman in any the games (as far as I’m aware) but she has a picture of your mum and dad. Could’ve been she knew them and left at a young age a few years before you and your dad🤷🏻♂️
@@bitterman7258 Funny you commented this today cause I completely forgot about this until yesterday when I was playing it again and spoke to her and she said that and that they used to call him “mole butt” I was like fs there goes that theory. Just chalked it up to an Easter egg for the fans 😄
My theory is that the brotherhood/outcasts were going to murder sarah Lyons, the loan wanderer caught wind and he and Sarah run off together and are living happily as a family, one day we will see their son/daughter In a future game. This would also explain the vagueness around Lyons death
Deacon isn't the lone wanderer, or the institute would have been defeated in a week lmao
Nah cos he doesn't have the save/load button anymore :(
@@strathattack4325 once you're at the end game, you're so powerful it's not needed anymore lol
This is...a very good point
@@Dr_Bille fucking bethesda made him an essential companion god darn it
@@Dr_Bille my unexpected occasional crashes because of my 80 mods seem to disagree with that statement
I wonder if anybody in the wasteland noticed that every few years there's a person that suddenly emerges from nowhere and somehow despite all odds tremendously changes the world around them.
Damn that Caesar! He was a protagonist all along!
New Vegas occasionally makes references to the first two games with that idea in mind. Not as good as Neloth in Skyrim lampshading your whole MO when you ask him for money, but still.
that happens all the time in irl history
@@jeffbenzos6344 ok
I mean this is the same as George Washington, he just showed up and invented one of the richest countries in the modern day.
Edit: he was apparently super rich.
He's alone and wandering
You're welcome
He is called "THE LONE WANDERER" for a reason
Simple as
But what about Jared!?!?!?!!!
I'm roleplaying as the lone wanderer in New Vegas. Ill have to just pretend I'm leaving the photo in vault 21 lol
not funny
This is the real story. As the Lone Wanderer walks into the wasteland the camera fades to black. They find themselves in the back of a wagon as they slowly wake up. Ralof of Riverwood sitting across them wakes them up with "Good, you're finally awake." Todd Howard, you've done it again.
I like to think thats what happens if Benny did kill you.
That’s beautiful, and that gives me some ideas
They had us in the first half not gonna lie
@@Become-Eggplant and shooting the couriers in the head in skyrim has them coming back from the grave to get back at you
What's your name horse thief?
I like to think he got on the alien ship and is exploring the universe with his crew from the dlc.
That theory does sound the most enjoyable, maybe we could get a game where the lone wanderer goes to see the zetans home planet?
@@Synonymous101 Fallout 3 2
@@Synonymous101 do you think star filed is gonna have an easter egg about the lone wanderer?
@@the_fella_kyle2161 I sure hope so!
@@the_fella_kyle2161 That would actually be amazing lol. But if the zetans show up in Starfield that would be awesome
I think it is very interesting that the B.O.S in Fallout 4 doesn't seem to have access to Zetan tech. This seems to imply that the Lone Wanderer didn't fully trust them to reveal it's existence.
That is a great point!
I've never bought in to the supposed death of Lyons' pride, and long suspected that Maxson either pulled something shady to get them out of the way, or that they faked their own deaths to avoid that impending occurrence.
If it came down to picking sides, I don't think there's much question as to where the LW would stand.
It's understandable that there was just too much going on in the main game for him to find the time to share that information, but it could well have been a matter of prudence to not mention it after the fact, especially if the LW has suspicions about the Brotherhood's new Elder.
@@drakeford4860 it's doubtful he had a hand in it considering he was 11 and looked up to Sarah. However I wouldn't put it past people in the brotherhood to kill Sarah and groom Maxson
@@brotherhoodofsteel4751 That is a fair point, though looking back into history, we do find examples of such youths knocking off their competition here and there. It's rare, but not unheard of, and looking at the man Maxson has become in under a decade, I'm not ruling anything out.
Not to say I completely disdain the man. Despite some... _issues,_ I generally quite respect the East Coast's latest Elder, but he certainly carries a vibe of willingness to do whatever needs to be done.
Regardless, I feel there was definitely some amount of fowl play involved. Frankly, there just wasn't anything left in the wasteland that could believably kill off Sarah, let alone the whole of Lyons' Pride- which likely would have had the LW riding shotgun on at least some of their missions following Broken Steel.
Well, Maxson did basically shit on Lyon's legacy and turned the eastern BOS back into their heartless tech hoarding old ways.
From a canonical rather than gameplay perspective the fact that the Brotherhood references him so little in Fallout 4 points towards some sort of acrimony between the two in my view. Perhaps he fell out with the BOS after Sarah Lyons death and there has been an effort to downplay his importance as he might have been a potential rival to Maxson?
Romantic or Professional? Or both?
Good lead. Also another guy said in the comments that the fact that the BoS didn't have alien technology in FO4 proves that the lone wanderer didn't trust the BoS.
@@rysephoenix8643 probably both lol, after finishing broken steel sarah says something like if things werent so crazy she wishes she could get to know the wanderer more
Maybe they got mad after he helped the outcasts
I actually kinda like this theory and it would make sense, and with the brotherhood being so secretive and Manson being an arrogant b!tch I could see why the wanderer would leave after Sarah dies, or maybe they were on the same fire team and died together. Who knows?
They wake up in the back of an imperial prison cart to Ralof saying "....good, you're finally awake..."
I had a crazy dream with guns and muntants
Ralof: da fucks a gun
@@doggo9567 too muck skooma
bruh
@@doggo9567 some weird fast crossbow with smaller bolts
i really hope Starfield is the rumored game that ties Fallout and TES together that Bethesda claims was just a rumor hoping it'd throw us off.
In fallout 4, I turned zimonja outpost into a camp for the lone wanderer. There's a set of winterized t-51 power armor, a weapon rack with the Metal Blaster, and a doghouse for dogmeat. I like to imagine he came to the commonwealth to keep an eye on the brotherhood of steel he once respected.
In that case maybe he left because he saw the sole survivor starting to make a massive footprint in the commonwealth and went back to the capital.
Thats cool
The Lone Wanderer was the avatar of an extradimensional being who was trying to avoid doing their homework.
As much evidence for that as there is the idea it was all a simulation
Lol, you know me well
The Lone Wanderer is a reincarnation of Nerevar.
@@Misanthropolis what a grand and intoxicating innocence
That was us in 2008 hahahah
I do like the concept of the Courier walking into the Atomic Wrangler or Mojave outpost and bumping shoulders with the Lone Wanderer and one of them saying "Hay man watch it!"
The atomic wrangler is getting levelled 😂
"Ive got 30 perks, you only have 25"
@@pukkicfc9061 lol no, at level 50 you have 25 base perks, the cap in f3 is 30.
@@doolbeepi3059 With DLC it's 50, I think
Jericho stands up, "oh its on!!" 🚬
The theory of the simulation has a huge problem, Dr. Li, McCready and Sierra we see them in Fallout 4, how could Dr. Braun's simulation actually have people he has no idea exist
Also you see some characters in 76
Dr Zimmer is also mentioned in fallout 4
Also it's just a lazy theory you can apply to anything imo.
@@pocketsand76 yeah, also it destroys what many people where familiar with, also I don't think even Todd would have an idea like that be canon
Same reason that "player is a synth" theory starts to crumble.
You can encounter people from your past in the wasteland who have no institute connections.
He’s probably just vibing with Easy Pete
And was maybe watching over Little Lamplight
@@besserwissersmartass1170 I know this is random, but could you explain me the meaning of "watch over"? Because i am not a native speaker of english
@@ajaxpr1594 taking care of them, you know, giving them Food,new Clothes and maybe some ammo, or weapon polish.
@@besserwissersmartass1170 Thanks for the explanation
He *is* Easy Pete
My opinion : Tranquility lane looks way creepier than actual wasteland
the abandoned house is ironically the least creepy thing in that sim
I mean it's Fallout, the Cardinal Rule is Creepy is Normal , Normal is creepy.
That quest always gave me The Twilight Zone vibes
“yeah the guys that played the beta said it was a bit too twilight zone creepy, and wanted more “mad max in the 1950’s”creepy whatever the hell that means”
The Lone Wanderer is just busy killing Grandma Sparkle due to her dangerous arsenal of game-ending weapons
Blackhawk scoped 44 magnum cough cough
The evil currently residing in Wilhelms warf is very much real
Haha, if you convince the Aqua Pura raiding gang to give up on their plans, the first thing they do is gun down poor Granny Sparkle before waking away.
@@papaofthejohns5882 she has the power to crash your game, so the npcs have to do it
RIP Mittensquad...
The Wanderer becoming Star-Lord is the most enjoyable theory to be honest
Moira does refer to the Lone wonderer as a "He" several times in the fallout 4 content, so we know that much. Perhaps that was meant to echo fallout 2, where we discover that the vault dweller's gender was male.
No she wasn't mentioned in Fallout 4. You're talking about Fallout 3's original manual.
I believe the lone wanderer's default name is Albert by the way.
@@deangeloellis729
What a fucking 50s male white dude name
@@phoenixchase9271 that’s a Hispanic name
@@mewdx4339 its both white and hispanic I think
imagine if Starfield is actually about the Lone Wanderer exploring space after the Mothership Zeta dlc
That would honestly be really cool, but definitely unlikely. I could see them hiding a couple of Zetans somewhere in Starfield as an Easter Egg, but I don't think it would go any further than that.
babe, wake up, starfields out!
If only…
If that happens it automatically becomes a goty
I always played Vegas as if my character was the lone wanderer still just with bullet induced amnesia.
Added more weight to the lonesome road storyline.
New Vegas only takes place 4 years after Fallout 3, so timeline wise I don’t think it’s possible for the LW to make their way to NV and do all the things the Courier has done in just 4 years.
@@gudmundur-heimisson nah man I got this plot all sorted in a neat little non Bethesda like cohesive bundle.
It was aliens.
@@gudmundur-heimisson Zetan's did it
@@silentnight6810 I guess time travel is also canon in Fallout so that could work too.
Well, he/she *has to* at least leave the Brotherhood at some point along with Star Paladin Cross, as I can't see either one condoning the (heavily implied) assassination of Sarah Lyons by Arthur Maxon.
After Sarah died I tried to commit suicide, due to my healing mutations that didnt work, so Me, Clover, the rest of the Tunnel Snakes and the citizens of bigtown went to texas on our alien mothership. in texas I met Paladin Brother Joseph and the Brotherhood of Skulls, and brokered a peace between them and the Texas brotherhood of steel there who they had broken away from over their refusal to assist the ghouls.
continued exploring west visiting the mojave & new california. then off to japan and china. now im in the commonwealth hanging out with my great-aunt who was frozen for like 200 years, life's crazy sometimes
If I remember correctly isn't Maxon really upset by Sarah's death, and that it wasn't him who orchestrated the assassination but someone else attempting to put Maxon in power
More than implied that Arthur found out she was a synth also there's a possibility he's like Kellogg because there's a entry examining he has heavy machine augmentations
The notion that Arthur had Sarah Killed is stupid cause Arthur was both a child when she was in charge and had a massive crush on her
@@acidpain6059 people are dumb and blinded by their hatred of Maxson.
But of course! An 11 year old organized the assassination of a Brotherhood Sentinel! One he was trained by and had a crush on no less
Ffs blew my mind. Flipped the game upside down from what I remember, from how it felt the first time I played it. Great video my guy
Thanks! Couldn't have done it without the community, you guys are so creative 👍
Right after the Lone Wanderer takes the G.O.A.T test, the room is pumped with knockout gas and you see a white flash. You and your classmates are carried off to a hidden room containing the simulation pods. From that point on, you are in a simulation created by Vault-Tec to determine what career in Vault 101 you will have. You are given a simulation where you get the opportunity to become either a Messiah, True Mortal or Devil. How you go through the simulation and interact in that world determines your Karma and anyone who would be too destructive/anti-social for Vault life is disposed of. Because in Vault 101, nobody ever enters and no one ever leaves.
We are born in the vault,
We live in the Vault,
We die in the Vault...
@@deborahkobayashithelonewan8225 I borned at wastes of Memorial...
I lived my childhood at 101...
I died, as Brotherhood honored knight...
Oh thats fuckin dark...I love it
Holy shit...
Yeah ngl I kind of like this idea as a sad and gritty reality for the lw. I mean somehow a 19yo who shot a rad roach once took on the enclave and destroyed them in potentially less than a week. Seems a little too crazy.
I Think The Lone Wanderer Is In Space Exploring The Universe Due To The Fact He Took Over A Spaceship From The DLC Mothership Zeta
I still don't get it how that's possible. Didn't the ship get wrecked by the wanderer and by the other ship in the final battle? I was suprised that it even worked at the end of the dlc.
@@kerruo2631 Alien Engineers maybe? I remember them not being hostile and the little girl encourages the player to not kill them.
@@kerruo2631 no the ship splits into two and you battle and destroy the other half of the ship. Afterwards it's fully space worthy as you can return to the ship in space anytime.
@@kerruo2631 Perhaps the Zetans Enginers help the lone wanderer by not killing them
Theory 4 is my favorite. I do the whole story discover the whole map complete all the quest then do the all the dlc's and then do mothership zeta and that's where I end my playthrough and start the next fallout
Same I complete all the quests I can find and beat the game then I do the DLC as stories that happened after the events of the main story and Broken Steel I also nuke Megaton at very good karma which then bumps me down to neutral I pick the end game neutral perk then Butch and I spend the rest of our days flying through space making sure the galaxy knows.. “Tunnel Snakes rule!”
Sorry to hear
in the words of the immortal Tim Curry "I'm escaping to the one place that hasn't been corrupted by capitalism space"
I like the simulation theory. Did you know on the Steam Store page, Fallout 3’s description reads:
Vault-Tec engineers have worked around the clock on an interactive reproduction of Wasteland life for you to enjoy from the comfort of your own vault. Included is an expansive world, unique combat, shockingly realistic visuals, tons of player choice, and an incredible cast of dynamic characters.
I did not know that, very interesting 🤔
actually without DLC Broken Steel you die at the end from Radiation Poisoning.
Yep, the ultimate sacrifice.
but that wouldnt make sense cause liberty prime is still broken
@Egg T You can't do that without Broken Steel DLC.
And? Why wouldn't the dlc be cannon?
@@Lorenzo_I. I didn’t say anything about whether it’s canon or not.
hope no one got hurt while stretching to make that "it was all a simulation" theory.
He probably just vibing in the wastelands somewhere. If there's ever a new fallout game we might get some references.
We'll get the new elder scrolls first
Since their journey mirrored the Vault Dweller’s, I always figured just like the Vault Dweller the Lone Wanderer got disillusioned with the capital wasteland and its changes ( his/her exile from vault 101, the brotherhood’s fall into tyranny, ect.) and they left, heading either north or south with other defectors and started a new community.
I think he’s like the survivalist just trying to survive and helping people on the way and moving from place to place,town to town, city’s and all the above
I personally think that the photograph implies the Wanderer's parents were originally from Vault 21, and came to the Capital Wasteland with the Brotherhood expedition. Furthermore, that Sarah might be related to them. So... if one were to play a Courier who IS the Lone Wanderer... and got far enough in her unmarked quest... Just imagine that for a moment: He's basking in the afterglow, she heads to the bathroom, then he rolls over on his side and sees THAT hanging on her wall.
*Seinfield Theme*
Eh, I like to think that James sold that photograph to a caravan because it made him sad, he wanted to forget that past.
its just a reused asset
But… Vegas comes after… and we know the lone wanderers parents were born in vault 101 before him, and his “family tree” was in the vault since the bombs dropped…for generations… and then only freed after his dad escaped…
Doesn’t really make ANY sense what you described…
It would really NEED to be the other way around, like the video states… and the wanderer came to the Mojave AFTER…
Nothing can really place him or his parents there “originally”
@@BoboMcBooboy As far as I know, there's nothing in the game that connects your parents to Vault 101. Aside from what your dad tells you at the start, pretty much all of which turned out to be a lie.
As for the rest, I meant the Wanderer himself may have made his way to the Mojave years after Fallout 3 ended. I don't honestly think the theory holds water if you think about it for too long, but it's just something interesting to think about.
Regardless, I *do* want to know why in hell Obsidian did decide to put that picture of the Lone Wanderer's parents in Vault 21. Them being from there is just the only way I can think of to explain it in-universe.
I like to think the Lone Wanderer just went on to live a fairly average life for the time he was in.
He was just an ordinary guy who answered his call to action in extraordinary fashion. Chances to be a hero don't come around often. Some people never get a single chance.
A deviation from the norm like what TLW experienced must eventually revert to mean.
It'd be cool to see an older version, settled down with kids, a wife, couple dogs, and a robot on a little farm. Telling stories of his adventures in a local pub and the younger crowd thinking he's exaggerating. Being the "fixer" for any problems from bullies, to illness, computers, locks, guns, food & water, survival, etc. Just one of those old guys that seems like they can do anything and make it look natural doing it. But then complaining about his bad back and sore gunshot scars, hard at hearing from all the hell he's been through, maybe a bit paranoid from the lingering ptsd but prefers to think of it as, "being prepared".
Great heros, beginning as normal people and eventually returning as normal people are my favorites heros.
I love this
that was beautiful bro
What if the alien ship that crashes during fallout4 was shot down by the Lone Wanderer
High possibility. Theres even fire coming out of the back meaning something hit it and set it on fire.
@@fumothfan9 of its possible it was a simple engine malfunction
@@LucyWest370 I hate to say this but... You might be right, even the ship that The Lone Wanderer encountered was crashed due to malfunction
@@fumothfan9 Nah its very unlikely, idk what tf ur talkin about. youre clearly running wild wasteland
@@coveredinherintestines666 God I wish there was wild wasteland in fallout 4 that would make the game more enjoyable
Meanwhile... Courier becoming a new warlord in New Vegas.
All though I don't agree with the Deacon theory, there's another point to it.
Sometimes when you initiate conversation with Deacon, he'll say "Are we having fun yet?" Now ik this is a stretch but in the Point Lookout DLC, Nadine says that everytime you initiate conversation.
If the simulation theory is true, then that means fallout nv and 4 are also simulations since they reference fallout 3 a lot. Project purity is talked about by the brotherhood and deacon in fallout 4, same with the enclave in far harbor.
My personal head Canon is that the lone wanderer is the Courier and that fallout nv is just a continuation of the fallout 3 character storyline.
@@trabordo I know its never gonna be a true things sadly since the they are problems but, that's why its my head Canon for my role playing characters, even if there's problems
If this connection was confirmed it would be really cool but sadly it might never be
that simulation theory is honestly really, really stupid
I personally never liked dream theories or simulation theories because I think they’re lazy plot twist garbage theories with no weight or value, and that perfectly lines up with that
Or coma theories
Didn't fallout 3 description said that vault tec was doing a wasteland simulation?
@@Knittt hubris comics building had a gaming pc in the basement for a grognak game they were developing
@@NewPaulActs17 I'm your 2nd like AGAIN wow man this cannot be real.
The loan wonder probably just left the capital wasteland and probably just keep doing what he or she does best wonder probably to places like ronto or some other unexplored places and post apocalyptic world at least that’s what would make the most sense
Lone Wanderer*
@@valravnsshadow9422 Lone Wanderererer*
The Loan Wanderer is canon now. He is fluent in financial expertise.
@@theballsmaster9723 And God help him if you dont pay him back
Anything could have happened to The Lone Wanderer.
#1: They could have lived a peaceful life with a family.
#2: They could be ripping apart the wasteland for epic adventures.
#3: Or The Lone Wanderer could have tragically committed suicide.
Maybe they did all three in the order of 2-1-3
I'm more of a 3-3-3 kinda guy
Lone wanderer is too much of a chad to game end himself
@@WarriorPNG LW can already end himself before he quicksaves.
After maxing their level cap the Lone Wanderer went to Australia to hunt regular, unradiated wildlife (for a challenge).
They were killed by a drop-bear in the first week.
I unironically like this one
He is no bark
Meh this simulation theory is utterly nonsense, the UFO is my favorite.
I agree
The existence of Fallout 4 kinda wrecks the simulation theory, I'd like to think that Deacon's last story is his actual honest one. The developers have said the photo in New Vegas was just an unused asset from Fallout 3 and thus doesn't have any meaning. So that really just leaves Zeta,
I thought that maybe the BOS soldier you can fight in Nuka World could've been the Lone Wanderer.
Makes sense, he was only a Knight after all.
Why tho, just a hunch?
@@adamf.barbieri8788 yes, pretty much.
@@adamf.barbieri8788 Yeah.
@@sgt.someone1240 lol ok then
Deacon is likely not the LW as he has been to New Vegas. At some point in traveling with Deacon he tries an “overide code he won in a card game in Vegas”. I like the galactic traveler theory
Deacon lies all the time so it's possible he never went to Vegas
He has a synth component in him he’s not human so it can’t be the LW
Or maybe that just shows he is?????
Naw deacons on record as being with the rail since before fallout 3 started..
Man, your videos are greatly underrated for someone who always goes the extra mile! I hope your channel keeps growing. Stay safe mate
Cheers, appreciate the kind words! Let me know if there's anything you want to see in a later video. Stay safe pal 👍
@@Synonymous101 Now that you mention it, it would be cool to see some unique random encounters or something like lore-friendly mods that enhance the gameplay or make it more challenging etc... Keep it up
@@El_Danno any specific fallout or is it dealers choice?
@@Synonymous101 Well I personally use "Fellout", it basically retextures the sky to look blue, I also use "Longer Days", "Vicious Wastes", which makes the game harder and changes a lot of stuff to make it more realistic too, and I haven't downloaded this one, but "Collapsed DC" seems interesting, it adds a whole new are into the game.
@@El_Danno I've never really experimented with mods, but I think I'll have to give it a go, sounds interesting!
Honestly, I always imagined the Lone Wanderer just settling down in Megaton. My headcanon tells me that after the final battle at the air force base, the Wanderer was finally allowed to just breathe. Logically they've been going non stop since getting woken up by Amata the day they left the Vault, after that he searched the Capital Wasteland for his father and got embroiled with the war against the Enclave. He's never given a chance to just pick up the pieces of his shattered life and after the air force base battle, the pain of everything finally sets in and he winds up suffering from PTSD. He would probably try to fight his mental illness by getting back out in the Wasteland, sidequesting, going to Far Harbor, the Pitt and his curiosity getting the better of him with the alien signal. But at the end of the day all he's doing is making his likely fragile mental state worse. He decides that hanging up the rifle and trying to stop the endless fighting would be best for him. Maybe he'd be like Jericho and use his experience to act as a guard, but rarely goes out into the Wasteland except to hunt for food. Probably battles with a bout of alcoholism, but eventually is able to live peacefully in his Megaton home. Perhaps eventually Amata would finally start opening the vault up and they'd finally be together.
It’s revealed that the lone wanderer left the capital wasteland
I always got the impression that he was tired of working with BOS and left DC. If he didn't blow up the Cidedel (and FO4 Canon supports this), then he left to explore west, Vault Dweller style. Because if he were still around, Sarah Lyons would still be alive, Maxon would still be a Knight or Paladin and BOS would still be in the Capitol Wasteland helping out with the locals. After all, he singlehandedly won the war with the Enclave. BOS couldn't have accomplished 1/4 of what they did without the Lone Wanderer. Fact not opinion.
Imagine settling down in a shitty town like Megaton with the skills of the Lone Wanderer lmao
@@ericlopez8795 every settlement in the capital wasteland sucks. But you get a free home there and people worship the ground you walk on if you're nice to them
He's probably just wandering lonely
If the lone wanderer can utilize the alien tech and could be anywhere. It's perfect for the lone wanderer to be a mysterious stranger.
Maybe he's the mysterious stranger in V.A.T.S.
I like this one a lot and i guess it would explain the ability to be there and out in seconds
Blown away by the effort and quality of the editing in your videos. So many other people just put gameplay in the background. Not knocking those guys but I really appreciate the extra effort and attention to detail.
You're very welcome! :D
There was actually cut content in Fallout 4 from the cut Wild Wasteland perk that didn't make it into the game where you get a random encounter with someone that could spawn male or female that strongly suggested they are the Lone Wanderer. The dialogue would have said they grew up in a vault in the Capital Wasteland (Vault 101 being the only still active vault there), how their mother died shortly after giving birth, their father who died to save them was seen as a hero for his work that ultimately purified the water there, how the Brotherhood Of Steel helped them and it was them that suggested to them to start spreading out across East Coast to help others, how someone from their team left and went to the Institute and this person who could be the Lone Wanderer came to Boston to see how bad it was for themselves. It was also mentioned if you have Dogmeat with you this person instantly recognizes him, says it good to see him after ten year (Fallout 4 takes place 10 years after Fallout 3), and would say something along the lines of of how Dogmeat after helping someone will always seek someone else that is needing of help and is happy he found someone who needed help and how he's been like a guardian angels to others.
I love the idea that Dogmeat is this eternal beast of a dog
@@MacKennaTheGoddessofRadiation well considering that fallout 3 perk(puppies) he might be eternal beasts
Plot twist, deacon always lies because he is maiq the liar from elder scrolls just with a sh*t tone of visits to doc crocker.
My issue with the Deacon theory are the references to Deacon in the Railroad HQ terminal as early as 2273 (or 2266 if you accept the theory that John D. referenced in that entry later changes his name to Deacon.) Since Fallout 3 takes place in 2277, it seems unlikely that the Lone Wanderer is Deacon.
What if Deacon is just a codename, and they train a new person to become the next deacon. Every time he "changes faces" it is actually just a new person becoming the identity of deacon. That's how he was ghoul for a bit because the current deacon was a ghoul.
@@sirostrich6035 Possible, but it doesn't track with the text of the terminal entries. The Railroad wasn't all that well organized at first, leading to a massive loss to Institute synths in 2266. Somewhere between then and 2273 they started compartmentalizing information. That lead to a more resilient organizational structure with multiple cells operating throughout the Commonwealth without being fully aware of one another. According to the entries, Deacon was the one who started those changes, much to the annoyance of the actual leader of the Railroad. Between that and the existence of instant face-changing cosmetic surgery in-universe, it's more likely Deacon is the same guy, running a long game to see the Railroad through to victory.
Assuming the dates in the terminal are correct and not hacked (which Deacon knows how to do) or that his current identity isn’t lifted from that entry (neither Desdemona or anyone in the current railroad ever meet JD).
A strong argument for Deacon theory is the fact he casually mentions Code Violet (Harkness reset code, all the ones in Fallout 4 are different and thus these appear unique), alongside the other stuff with the Capital Wasteland.
Leaves only two possibilities, he’s an unseen partner of Victoria Watts OR he’s the Lone Wanderer.
@@Freshie207 It doesn’t leave only two possibilities. It can leave any number of possibilities.
Harkness is a verrrry special case. He was a Courser himself, a damn high ranking one. Not only that, but he was special enough that the head of one of the Institute’s departments went chasing after him personally. Harkness’ importance is further emphasised by the fact that a nascent Railroad ensured he was kept under watch all the way in Washington DC.
There’s no way they afford this level of care to every Synth, let alone at such a time that they were so much smaller. With all that said, there can be many reasons why Deacon would know the code.
Papa Of The Johns
That would be covered under unseen partner.
Additionally the idea that Harkness is special is entirely conjecture, we’ve not seen if the Institute sends personal after escaped Synths, or under what circumstances that may happen.
Hell Zimmer could be a Synth copy of himself, Synth components aren’t an Item in Fallout 3 so we can’t even prove he’s human.
Problem with Bethesda Games.
They want to be all spooky and mysterious about it.
Unlike Black Isles studio, who to my own preference just went "this is what they did after, and then they died due to x."
Realistically, the Lone Wanderer likely stopped wandering after the events of the game, to retire in some spot, creating their own place (small home or even founding a village)
And then died at a ripe old age, leaving a legacy of a small community.
Someone mentioned how you can find the Red Rocket station in 4 with everything to indicate it was the home of an adventurer. Dogmeant is there too. I think they went to the Commonwealth, lived in the station with Dogmeat, then died, which explains why Dogmeat is fine with the Sole Survivor.
@@beanface7408 he or she is literally 19 I wouldn’t expect that to happen
They’re wandering.
I think he just left the Capital and started wandering the continent. He has so many bad memories and traumatic events that happened in the Capital that staying there probably wouldn't be healty for his mental state.
Like a friend of my family. He had some very bad memories in my hometown, so he completely left the country to get mentally healed.
The lone wanderer can't be Deacon. Johnny D founded the railroad before the events of FO3, and we know that Johnny D is Deacon. I like the idea of it, but it seems to conflict with other lore.
Wouldn't be the first time Bethesda screwed up the lore, or the last.
Remember, they treat fallout 3 like it's right after the bombs dropped and not many years after like how it is, same with 4 despite being stated to be over 200 years later places still look like they haven't been touched despite the fact the radiation would've died down well by then, and pipe weapons locked away in prewar safes untouched. Child ghoul in 4 despite Raul in NV becoming one as a child and growing old as a ghoul. Bethesda doesn't care about logic if they can do something they think is cool.
For my LW, he achieved a high rank with the BOS stayed at the citadel. Eventually leaving after Sarah Lyon died. Feeling the organization wasn’t what it was anymore and retired and started a farm with a family. Was my head canon ending
Thank you Sir! I am sure that The entire fallout 3 and next in series is The endless rebooting matrix with respawned enemies and a melody from V112. Every npc (from radroach to alien) is one of many vault people, connected to the matrix to exist as radroaches etc...endless respawn
Endless respawn...I like that! 👌
I like to think he wandered around the wasteland before settling down in the Mojave, where he then became the Courior.
My only reason is because that's how Tale of Two Wastelands ties the two games together, but from what I can tell, there's really no conditions.
The lone wanderer settled down as a Courior for the Mojave express, he stashed away his weapons in what became the divide, keeping only a gun for self defense, hence how he was so easily taken down by Benny.
Though I also like the theory where he settled down in the Brother Hood of Steel with Sarah Lyons and they died in battle. It just seems fitting to me.
This is a good theory but it doesn’t really make sense because In fallout new Vegas the courier doesn’t even know what the brotherhood is since they ask a lot of questions and have no clue what they do or what they are. the Courier ask a lot of questions abt the Brotherhood
Also, in the Lonsome Road DLC there's lore linking the Courier to that stretch of highway back in 2266ish. Sorry.
@@ternative Bullets to the head also make you forget the NCR given you can ask the Goodsprings locals what it is.
@@multihacker3695 *2277. Traveling from the Capital to the Mojave in the Zetan Ship wouldn't take long; the order you deliver packages is never specified so the Divide could've been your first Courier job.
@@alpacalover0 It's a cool theory but the courier is stated to have made a thriving town in the pre-devide by being the only one who could/would traverse the dangerous reigon.
Deacon cannot be the lone wander the timelines do not match up for their stories Deacon has been in the railroad for longer than The lone wonder has been known in the wasteland Deacon does not have a pit boy nor is recognised or hinted at by any of the other npcs the lone wander would know such as Lee Madison And mccready So there is no way deacons punk ass could be the lone wanderer.
why so mean to deacon
yeah Deacon sucks!
Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah i'm not buying it. Im not buying that it's a simulation. I mean he even says it himself 3:52 "that's because for SOME. REASON." I mean really? So without any idea the game somehow continues past the supposive "failsafe" that the overseer was denying the player somehow by some miracle actually worked?
I'm not buying anything you're selling mate. There's way to many holes in that theory for it to be convincing.
I think the simulation theory can be used for any fallout game
It would explain quick saving fast traveling and loading screen advertisements
It would explain the unexplainable pit boy powers like VATS
It would explain the weird TV screen seen whenever u boot up the game
It would explain the weird narrations and intros and endings of the games
I hate any theory which tries to push "it was all a dream none of it was real"
It's such a cheap theory.
@@MrSniperfox29but.... but... simulation!
He probably stayed with Riley’s rangers and chilling in the bunker drinking whiskey!
I'm so happy I have the Game of the Year edition of Fallout 3. I don't want get stuck in a loop where I have to kill Col. Autumn, then start the Purifier...and it restarts
I always cringe when I hear "simulation" or "dream" in theory videos, because you know that person had no creativity in their head and couldn't connect the dots together so just went the easiest way out and "it's in a dream/simulation, so anything can happen". I ignore those ideas.
The entirety of fallout 3 is just the dream of the dragon born before he's greeted by rolaf
Lol I’ve been thinking the same thing that’s trippy
Another thing with deacon is that he has a fair amount of knowledge of old world stuff like history and literature. He quotes Shakespeare at times iirc, and has a line "and here I wanted to spend the day reading proust" in response to combat
On one hand this could maybe be explained by him supposedly coming from University Point, but would also be explained excellently by him being a vault dweller.
He also mentions the capital wasteland more than once. About the brotherhood he says "in capital wasteland, they weren't so bad, but now...", he also makes a comment abt the Washington monument when you go to bunker hill
I love the idea of tracking the lone wanderer from the end of Fallout 3. I personally like the new Vegas idea.
There are terminals in the railroad that only unlock after you complete the campaign with the railroad, and they confirm dates of Deacon that would compromise him being the lone wanderer
The main problem with the Deacon one is that it's heavily implied he's Johnny d which would put him in the Commonwealth 11 years before the events of Fallout 3 if true.
No another potential reason why mothership zeta theory might be Canon is when you look at the timeline it does take place after broken Steel so he could have just left on the spaceship and never came back. One of my own personal theories is he just returned to vault 101 or went to Appalachia.
The lone wanderer returning to Vault 101 wouldn't make sense. After we finish the quest that deals with the fallout of our escape from Vault 101, regardless of who becomes the new overseer, we are exiled from the vault
76 keep it out of your theories
@@doggo9567 also doesn’t 76 take place like 100 years before 3 and 4?
@@HomeboyMcGoo more like 200
@@zacharygreene1979 which mean Appalachia would be a completely different place.
I have two possible theories. The first one is that eventually, The Lone Wanderer was accepted back into Vault 111 where they settled down to a peaceful life. Perhaps asking their friends on the outside to keep their actual location a secret so that they could live in peace without being pestered. The other theory is that they stayed with the Brotherhood but after the death of Sara Lyons went rogue in some manner, perhaps suspecting foul play.
The thing about games like fallout is that I think the “”right”” answer is whatever you think YOUR character done, its all roleplay anyway, obviously there is a “canon” set of actions that take place but still I feel the intended “answer” is one you fill on your own
Of course I do still enjoy thinking about the “canon” answer! So this video is def interesting
One thing I see in the ending scene that isn’t really talked about is dog meat. I kinda wonder if the lone wonderer happened to live in that red rocket station near sanctuary since it did have almost everything a player would need or even in sanctuary itself since there was some evidence of recent habitation.
Maybe the LW went to the Commonwealth, and made a home in the Red Rocket station. I think they died somehow, because Dogmeat accepts the SS as their new master. :(
fo4 dogmeat is fo3's dogmeat's puppy or something
They are not the same dog
He probably just went back to vault 101 after exploring a bit
You were kicked out though like in fallout 1 lol. If not you sabotage it and you have no vault to return to.
No because Amata just kicks you out
@@euankenobi3517 I mean to be fair, she did say that it was possible for the Lone Wanderer to return one day.
Got with Amata :). Nah my lone wanderer always sabotaged the vault if he couldn't stay no one could especially since amata was doomed to be smashed.
I like to think the Wanderer was done in the Capital Wasteland and just started walking, travelling America helping where he could or taking what he wanted. Doing whatever, realistically at the end of Fallout 3, you don’t have anything to do, and therefore the wanderer doesn’t as well, much like the player leaving the game behind, the Wanderer leaves the wasteland and continues on in their life
what if he was the courier and you actually play as the same character and he met ullesyes and the gun shot in the head made him forget everything
Probaly dead cause my lone wanderer wouldnt of supported Maxson and his version of the brother hood
My personal canon made the lone wanderer took a job as a carrier
It doesn't make sense because the courier has no pip boy
@@kejsazizolli3608 he could have had it taken after being caught by Benny
@@lurksnitchtongue8986 Then how do you explain him being in Montana before ever leaving Vault 101?
@@rikusawada6113 I might be mistaken, but I thought the Divide timeline is ambiguous, or even if its true at all is left as ambiguous? Either way, I'm not saying its the actual lore, I'm saying its one of the roleplay options I find fun. The other roleplay I like is to pretend that Chance possessed the Courier's body after he was shot in the head, which is why the first thing I always do is go for Chance's Knife.
@@lurksnitchtongue8986 In the end as long as you have fun playing that's really that all that matters.
I feel like he spent
the rest of his life with Sarah Lyons
Edit: I remembered she died a few years later he probably went to the commonwealth like everyone else.
😢😢😢
Didn't she die just a few years after the story of Fallout 3 ?
@@weltertom954 yes
A theory I have is that the lone wanderer is dead. The lone wanderer died outside the red rocket and dogmeat stayed there. Eventually the sole survivor runs into dogmeat where dogmeat took a liking to the sole survivor as he reminded him of his previous owner
So if you play fallout 3 and go to tranquility lane, your playing a simulation within simulation within a simulation.
My theory being that with everything the Lone Wanderer went through, it probably took a tole on their health and while they lived for some time after the events, their story and the legend of those times went with him to an early grave. I mean he had no home, no real family anymore, he was forced out of where he lived, went through a bunch of traumatic battles to get to his father, was exposed to various forms of radiation(sometimes on purpose, resulting in mutations) and forced to subsist on old expired food he found and drink at least some irradiated water, and this was pretty early in his life. his youthful vigour probably carried him through all of it, but a few years after the events he probably expired from various wounds and conditions he had developed, because war never changes.
The game makes various comparisons to the bible and the bible has plenty of insinuation about sacificing oneself for the betterment of mankind, he got all the clean water and cleared out the super mutants and did several other good things and then died before he could enjoy any of it. "I am alpha and omega, the beginning and the end". The father sacrifices the son/himself in a way to save mankind, i guess? I'm not really a bible guy but that's just my surface reading of it.
He's actually just hanging out in the cafe of broken dreams.
Nah the lone wanderer traveled back in time and lived as a man named Nate and then got frozen in a vault queue Fallout 4
I'd like to think he or she became the Courier in the Mojave.
its possible, getting to the mojave would be pretty easy with mothership zeta
Dudes also a monster and if Kellogg can make it on foot ya boi definitely can
Well except for that line of dialog with the lonsome drifter which confirms the courier was in montana in 2264 which is before the lone wanderer leaves the vault.
I thought that was the case when first playing New Vegas but now I don't and lonesome road gives you some backstory to your character.
If Decon isn’t the Lone Wanderer he’s at least a reference to him/her also here’s a fun theory Sally is most likely the same Sally from one of Fallout 76’s holotape stories about a little girl who was abducted by aliens it suits the lore considering Sally had been on the ship longer than anyone else and Fallout 76 takes place centuries before Fallout 1, 2, 3, 4 and New Vegas I know she could’ve aged but as Mothership Zeta has shown they have cryopods as well as for all we know she could’ve been a lot younger when she was originally abducted
Holy shit I that might be possible but didn't sally have an elder sister with her?
It only takes place 25 years before Fallout 1, and only Fallout 3 and 4 take place more than two centuries later.
@@bendover9813 Still Sally from 76 might be the same girl IMO bc regardless of how long ago it was it was for a fact before Fallout 3 and cryostasis could’ve kept her young there’s a video about this somewhere on RUclips but I don’t remember what it’s called I went on a lore tirade a few months ago and that’s where I first heard the idea I think
@@Amoncarybab I honestly don’t know I can’t remember whether or not she did in the holotape though I know by the time of Mothership Zeta she’s alone as in with no one she knew or was related to outside of who she meets during the DLC events
@@averagechadlegionary5824 she could also be a synth, and not able to age 🤷🏼♂️
I'd like to think Deacon is the Lone Wanderer
And Fallout 4's Mysterious Stranger is The Courier from New Vegas
Fallout 5.
The sole Survivor, The Courier, The lone wanderer.
Meet up at a campfire tell there stories and go there own seperate ways before showing the new character we play as.
I kinda like not knowing what happened to the Lone Wanderer. Mystery is a good thing sometimes.
I like to think they just continued to harrass random people and loot shit and shoot stuff like I do
im 7 months late but my theory is that they became a ghoul due to the radiation from project purity. after they woke up, they picked up their gear and started wandering (ha) the wasteland and helping people out (if you had good karma). maybe in a future game we’ll come across a nameless ghoul in a leather jacket and vault suit who offers you a can of water or a stimpak before disappearing into the wastes
I know i'm late but I always played Mothership Zeta last just because I like the theory of the lone wanderer saying "Screw this planet i'm out."
The end of vanilla Fallout 3 (No Broken Steele) states the Lone Wanderer eventually left the capital wasteland. My head canon has always been that he is courier 6 and the shot to the head from Benny causes amnesia forcing him to relearn everything. Bit of a stretch I know, but I mean a package courier is pretty fitting occupation for a lone wanderer. And it gives you a reason to play both games back to back lol.
I know there’s holes in it, but I like to think he tried to leave his past behind, and ended up in New Vegas, taking the job as a Courier before being ambushed, and shot in the head.
Even though there’s holes like you said I always pretend that’s what happened when o play the games 😂 my last playthrough I did the same thing but due to the shot in the head he started losing his sanity and joined the legion and killed everyone lmao
Main holes are the Courier’s backstory events as laid out in Lonesome Road, the destruction of The Divide happened likely prior to the events of fallout 3, and its pretty much canon that the courier was born in, or lived in California for some time
@@WendiGonerLH Well if we tweak the timeline and add or rest a few years we can say that the LW travel from the Capital to California, where he/she worked as a Courier delivering stuff and helped the community of the Divide, then he/she delivers the wrong package and everthing blows up and then you're shot in the head and the events of FNV take place (or well thats in my head canon)
See I like that theory but I really doubt a few khans and benny's lame ass could jump him dudes a monster
@@doggo9567 Well if the Enclave did jump on him and kidnapp, I don't see why they could too
I'm fairly sure the canon ending for the Lone Wanderer was he died starting the water purifier. The expanded DLC ending was for the player's benefit but officially, the Lone Wanderer died at the end of Fallout 3 completing their parent's work.
this was a really cool video! I would love the deacon theory to be true but there is a lot of contrary evidence. I highly suggest this video by TheEpicNate315
from this timestamp ruclips.net/video/WyE8LrYPLWg/видео.html (ik he's a big channel but it is a really well put together video with good information). The biggest factors to disprove it are:
- datamined textures that depict a carving of deacon's former wife's name, as per his last story
- deacon's travel dialogue alluding to his wife
- deacon referring to himself as an ex-farmer when boarding a vertibird during the "Rockets' Red Glare
" quest
Thanks, I'll check it out 😊
My theory is a simple one:
The Lone Wonderer isn’t anyone in any game besides the player in 3,
I think the whole point of the lone wonderer is that no matter how good you are of a person, you will be eventually be forgotten,
I think that instead of going north, he took a similar role to the courier and watched over the places they helped,
Likely using the zetan mothership to explore or faster travel, probably even to bring the others on the ship back where they came if they wanted to.
He could’ve waged a galactic conquest against the zetans and defending earth after being exiled from the brotherhood,
(explaining the crashed zetan ship in NV and 4)
Ah although if you watch Oxhorn deacon video, apparently his name is John Deacon and he might have been the actually founder of the rail road decade back
I haven't seen it so sorry in advance if I say something that wasn't in the video.
Deacons name is never mentioned, John D (assuming that's what you mean) could stand for John Doe (a man of unknown name) or it could even be Johnny D from the atom cats. As for being the founder I thought that was someone from the Institute? I can't remember their name and I could be remembering it wrong.
As I said I'm far less versed on fallout 4's lore than the earlier games so take it easy on me 👍
@@Synonymous101 The entire Railroad thibg is stupid. They have been around for ages and works thanks to their insider in the Institute who is a teenage boy. Like... huh? Him? He's way too young.
I think Sarah from vault 21 in NV could be the woman (Moria describes her as a girl not a woman in fo3 so she could’ve been as young as the wanderer around the time that Moria met her) who left vault 101 a few month or years before you did and that’s why she has the picture next to her bed. You never meet this woman in any the games (as far as I’m aware) but she has a picture of your mum and dad. Could’ve been she knew them and left at a young age a few years before you and your dad🤷🏻♂️
this is just wrong, sarah states that she has lived in vault 21 since she was a child and that she knows doc mitchell
@@bitterman7258 Funny you commented this today cause I completely forgot about this until yesterday when I was playing it again and spoke to her and she said that and that they used to call him “mole butt” I was like fs there goes that theory. Just chalked it up to an Easter egg for the fans 😄
My theory is that the brotherhood/outcasts were going to murder sarah Lyons, the loan wanderer caught wind and he and Sarah run off together and are living happily as a family, one day we will see their son/daughter In a future game.
This would also explain the vagueness around Lyons death