Mysterious Stranger doesn't seem to JUST help the Protagonist. Nick's investigation occurs before the Sole Survivor has left the Vault; this implies that the Stranger is in the Commonwealth helping others.
@@darklegionnaire8304 Yes, he makes note of Shady Sands, NCR, and the Capital Wasteland, but the folder is there before you first interact with Nick, this means that he has been actively hunting the Stranger before you ever meet him. Therefore, the appearances for the Commonwealth he notes would imply that they aren't necessarily linked to the Sole Survivor. Even if your individual character lacks the perk he's still noted in the Commonwealth.
@@Burned-Legate yeah those are the reports he's gathered since the time of fallout 76 nicks like a hundred years old or something. The stranger appears to EVERY protagonist not just frozen army man. They help the chosen aka us.
@@darklegionnaire8304 fair point but the note states that the stranger is "the last thing the commonwealth needs" implying he's already in the commonwealth. And if he wasn't, why would he be trying to "put the clues together to put this one away"? If the stranger wasn't in the commonwealth until the sole survivor was freed, Nick wouldn't show such interest
So i just realized while watching this video but the Zetans probably can upgrade the Giddyup Buttercups as actual war mounts as they are the right size to rode them. Thats probably why they are so interested in them
Zetans were yet another of Bethesda's mistakes, making "canon" (lol) and significant one of the random joke nearly Easter egg moments of the first games never meant to mean anything, like the giant footprint
The mysterous stranger in fallout 1 isnt a mysterious guy fallowing you from the shadows like in later games. The perk just means you are likely to find a stranger whenever you are in the middle of a combat and they will help you.
Mysterious Stranger was apparently based on a character from a work of the same name by Mark Twain. Twain wrote multiple versions of the story; each involves a supernatural character called "Satan" or "No. 44". So possibly a supernatural guardian. Wouldn't be the first supernatural element to Fallout and honestly better to have him NOT be delved too deep into to maintain his mystery.
I wonder if the non presence of inaccessible vaults indicates that the vaults we don't see are vaults that were never meant to be opened, and so developers just chose not to put them into the games. I haven't played all the games but who knows. Maybe there are people who are trapped forever.
@@johnmurcott1273vault 101 was only made to be sealed by the new overseer iirc, and redtygr14 is talking about those that were planned pre-war to never open
You could argue that the Zetans attacking in the various events could be an invasion of sorts. Assuming it is then they tried to invade in force, drawn to Appalachia and possibly other parts of the world, before being driven off by the survivors. They then needed to make the abominations and Giddy Ups as a way to replenish their depleted forces while also waiting for more to arrive. The Lone Wanderer then stopped them before they could launch their second invasion
It was absolutely the Zetans. They probed a military official for launch codes. Just refer to the Alien Captive Log 17 in the Cryo Lab in Fallout 3’s Mothership Zeta DLC.
@@PastorRapture Yes it's true, they did have the codes, but how would they launch them? With few exceptions the terminals of Fallout only have local network capabilities, if any network capabilities at all. They would struggle to find a way to access the terminals and computers that can actually launch the missiles, at least I think so.
@@Noblesix84in 76 zetans can and do release a aura that takes control of non human entities including robots and turrets even the ones you build, it's possible they didn't need to be there physically to cause the great war, just take over one person launch the missiles
here is my theory as to why the zetans have not committed to an all out invasion yet: the nuclear war was absolutely orchestrated by the zetans. what they did not orchestrate and possibly weren't even counting on at that time was the release of FEV into the atmosphere when the glow was hit, which could be the reason why they don't like stepping on the planet without space suits and while they're still observing earth, kidnapping humans, experimenting on them and perhaps even comparing them to pre war captives to see exactly what the trace amounts of FEV would actually do.
An interesting part of the Vault 76 story is that the Overseer was younger than most of her residents coming in. Odds are Vault Tec was betting on her listening to Vault Tec after the war due to a lack of experience
To be fair to the Zetans It would only make sense for them to wear space suits. They probably live most of their lives in very controlled vault-like environments, ie spaceships and the wasteland known as Earth isn't exactly a place you want to visit without protective clothing. What with all the latent radiation and FEV in the air
Pathogens alone make it a good idea to wear suits i mean here on earth our bodies and the diseases evolved in a red queens race where we developed better immunity and the diseases developed better ways to transmit and proliferate maintaining a sort of balance but the zetans have no such immunity and its not as simple as a vaccination when you're talking about millions of years of evolutionary gaps, chances are they mostly would be incompatible for most diseases for hosts but it only takes 1 outlier to wipe out a population.
I’ve always thought definitive “China/The US/Vault Tec started the war” theories miss a bit of the spirit of what Fallout is intended to be about. I agree with Boyarsky’s take that it doesn’t matter and shouldn’t be a question that ever gets an answer.
I think the question enhances Fallout further: Conspiracy is part of Fallout's universe. The answer has to be more complex then just "one of the above." In fact, the more strings on board, connecting wild points, the better. If you can get the leaders of all three in a small room together, whispering through the smoke....
our dwellers decendents still controlling appalachian nuclear arms and sending it hailing across the country on order from a vault tec executive honestly sounds totally in tune
I love how the Vaults cost over 150% what was initially bidded and yet many of the services and components were built by the lowest bidder. That's definitely really interesting
Standard contracting in the US, that's why everything is made like crap and you can hear through your neighbors walls even though you don't live in an apartment.
Since playing the Mistress of Mysteries quest in FO76, I've always had the thought that Frederick Rivers had something to do with the Mysterious Stranger. His wife had just built a network of super hero girls out of nowhere and dedicated her life and passion to doing good for the wasteland - only to be killed by the misguided mistakes of their own daughter. During this escapade, Frederick himself was quiet, reserved, refusing to take sides or even interject in the family politics. But he did contribute his skills as an inventor - building specialized armor, modifying stealth boys, and even crafting specialized 44 magnums for each of the girls (hmm...) Plus, Frederick's fate is unknown. We never see a body, he's not in the mansion that he used to work in, and there are mentions of him after the end of the quest. So what happened to him? Well, who knows what would go through the mind of a genious inventor when he sees the dead bodies of his wife and only child, sacrifices to the cause of protecting the innocent and bringing evil to justice. Let's also not forget that Frederick's wife was the Mistress of Mysteries - both in real life and fiction. And the character was often involved with the silver shroud - another similarly dressed super hero wielding a 44 pistol. Does he use the stealth boys he used to experiment on to show up "out of nowhere" as the Mysterious Savior or Mysterious Stranger? Does he dig into his lab until he invents teleportation? Does he build new customized 44 pistols and create a new network of Mysterious Strangers - only called as such because they don't stick around enough to say othwrwise? It seems like all the pieces are there and makes a hell of lot more sense than the supernatural theory I hear so often.
Didn't the silver shroud only use a special tommy gun? And what about the guy with the guitar in New vegas who talks about his dad possibly being the mysterious stranger?
And the fact a dude randomly figuring out teleportation and teleporting to the other side of the country, requiring possibly an uncountable amount of energy and percision for that range, is more likely then him just being a ghost and ir guardian angel? Honestly someone discovering that in fallout seems less likely than the supernatural, or at the very least a heavily radiated guardian angel.
I wish there was a way to make a robot horse out of a buttercup toy. Maybe, there is like a "special edition" full size model that you can modify with parts to make it a functioning mount.
34:15 If you consider the alien invasion in 76 cannon. Aliens have already tried to invade earth before, and they were defeated by the vault 76 dwellers. And they took 200 years to try again in fallout 3
It's a stretch, but possibly still a reference. Since Toshiro Kago is from somewhere within 1568-1600, it may be a nod to the Go Nagai manga/anime Black Lion/Kuro no Shishi, which features a swordsman from 1580 Japan who is abducted by aliens that augment him so he can kill all ninjas (in true Go Nagai style).
@@seangough2742no surprise in fallout 3 megatons bomb literally had a vault Tec logo on it 😂 and they tried to spin it off as a „crashed plane“ we been know that’s bullshit
Awesome video as always! There is one question I have: if the Zetans were attempting to manipulate American military personnel, could they have done the same with the Chinese military?
I wouldn't be surprised if they did since they abducted a Samurai and put him in stasis. So it's possible that the Zetans would have gone to other countries as well.
To correct you on the Mysterious Stranger in Fo76 He can appear as either the "Mysterious Saviour" as you mentioned, arriving when the player is incapacitated OR he can appear as the classic "Mysterious Stranger" during VATS combat. These are two separate perk trees you can spec into.
I'd like to point out that at some point during construction of the Vaults, the Enclave took control over Project Safehouse and, since they decided against using them to preserve humanity, subverted the project to their own ends.
I just watched a video by AltFall today that theorizes each vault is an experiment to gather dats for an interstellar,ark-style starship that would need to operate over generations of travel, and how each inhumane experiment would gather data for Vault-tec's Ark
@@mattgreen7692 I actually know which one you're talking about! It does seem like a logically sound theory all around...at least, until you stop and think 'Wait, if this really was the Enclave's true intentions, then wouldn't that ultimately make their presence in FO3 completely pointless?' I'm just saying, if I'd done extensive research and performed possibly hundreds of live tests all to someday have humanity freely sailing across the stars, I personally wouldn't bother worrying about some mutated freaks that I could just leave behind lol
@@Dragonoid9810 there's an old bit of Lore from the cancelled van buren version of Fallout 3. The Enclave was originally constructing a pair of heavy lift space rockets pre war but they were never completed. Lack of time and corrupt diversion of funds. The end result is that the plan to flee earth was abandoned and they switched to plan B which was the cleanup operation.
@@MediumRareOpinions I hope that's not how it goes, a fallout spin-off that takes place in the future on a vaultec style generation ship or alien planet would be fucking amazing
@@Dragonoid9810 "then wouldn't that ultimately make their presence in FO3 completely pointless?" Well yes, and they are. The only reason lore-wise the Enclave is there, because the Enclave is like the stormtroopers from star wars.
From what I heard it seems like the mysterious people are definitely guardian angels. Seeing that we clean up the commonwealth and they’re help aiding us in battle
That's a really fascinating about the Mark Twain story, I never knew about that! It could certainly put the Mysterious Stranger in a more interesting light.
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I took it as a nod to Vault-Tec starting the war but that they didn't actually in the end. Considering Cooper's wife was pretty high up and it seems unlikely she'd have put her kid in any kind of harm. I think this would be the most interesting way they could go tbh. I always feel like who "started the war" should be a mystery.
@@Pimp_Shrimp Then you must not have paid much attention. It's literally Cooper's wife that suggests to the representatives of the other companies that they drop the bomb themselves. Beforehand, she seems 110% convinced that the bombs WILL be dropped. Which is why Cooper was suspicious of her in the first place.
For the Mysterious Stranger speculation, in my head I'm going with the idea that they are all members of a time agency, and appear for as little amount of time as necessary to nudge events towards a specific future outcome.
A question to ask is where the alien in fallout 4 comes from. We destroy one mothership in 2277 and capture the other. Is Zeta still in orbit? Has another mothership arrived?
Even more interesting since it implies mothership zeta was either lost or left post F3 OR the reason the ship crashed in F4 was due to Zeta firing on it
Imo I don't think the show actually confirms who dropped the bombs first, just that the people in question had the intention and the means and that it would've been in their interest, trying to keep it spoiler free here but if it was you-know-who then wouldn't the dad and daughter at the beginning have been made aware of it by B?
@@jamro9011 Why would the dad need to be made aware? He was literally there when it happened and was friends with the literal owner of the company and was hand picked by him lmao. Pretty sure he knew who dropped them, especially when he himself dropped one in the show and even admitted to it.
@Rrezz I'm on about Coop and his daughter in the opening scene where the bombs are dropped, if it was VT that fired first then I'd think that B would've told them so that they weren't in danger
@@jamro9011that makes zero sense lmao it’s confirmed vault tech did it idk why fans like you are disillusioned with the fact that just bc the theory is fact now it doesn’t paint the whole picture people are acting like bc they finally answered a question real fans have been wanting to know for 20+ years it “ruins the mystery” wtf I don’t watch/play a story to just not get to a ending with a conclusion and everything being revealed and I think they did it pretty well in the show
Its crazy that we went from the Vault-Tec dropping the bomb as a crazy fan theory... to the fallout show (which is canon as confirmed by Bethesda designers and Todd Howard) confirming that they did in fact intend to and plan to do this. No confirmation yet if they actually managed to be first, but they were talking about it openly among executives.
@@TheBigGSN5 you are a clown. The reality is that Bethesda controls canon. Get over it. No matter what you pretend in your head, that’s just a fact. Everything they choose to be canon is canon.
I always wondered more about vault tec and if they survived the war or not if’s they didn’t survive I hope they got what they deserved because many vault dwellers such as the protagonists had what I took to survive and put the fate of the wasteland to a bright and hopeful future
Now that the show is out and some things are almost certainly confirmed (like the vault-tec starting it all in 2077)i must say that this video aged amazingly well. Big props to you Mr. Synonymous
How did Dr. Lesko get his nerdy mitts on F.E.V.? Can you start the game with the Wild Wasteland perk, get the Zetan gun, then Auto-Doc away that perk while in Big MT, and then kill those mercenaries and get the unique gauss rifle? AND WHERE DO ALL THESE DAMN FRESH APPLES KEEP COMING FROM?!?!!?!?
The vaults were definitely experiments designed to prepare for space travel. All of the experiments are situations that would apply aboard a colony ship:
My personal theory for the Zetans is that humanity began to harness Nuclear Power and they were able to pick up on the unholy amount of radiation Earth was giving off. Then when the Great War happened, they saw it as a perfect opportunity to invade. They probably see Earth as a giant gas station with all the radiation.
Holy fuck so much of that actually makes sense. After all, who stands to gain from the social experiments in the event of a nuclear holocaust? I'm honestly shocked I never considered it until now.
I know most players would be against this but i would love to play a fallout game where you get the choice to spend a great deal of time growing your character in the vault before something happens to where you have to leave it
It makes me think of the old “choose-your-adventure” books. I’d love it if they made one of those for Fallout, or even just a simpler narrative-focused game. Would be so fun that way.
I think Vault Tec may have had a peace walker type AI system with the ability to fool Chinese nuclear defences into thinking they fired first in order to start the war.
The original fallout duology, the mysterious stranger is a random man / woman wearing the leather armor. as if he/she was just strolling by and helped a stranger (you) in need. Then Bethesda came along and borked it all up.. The mysterious stranger in fo3 / NV / fo4 could/should have been a random npc just passing by. Especially in NV where it could be anyone you're allied to. Like Civilian or hunter/A Kings member/Victor/Yesman, random Legionnary/BoS member/Enclave remnant/NCR soldier/Ranger. Fo4 could have had random settlers, dismissed followers, Friendly supermutants (if you're with Strong), Random friendly ghoul (with Hancock), A synth / Courser (if you control the institute), Freed synth (railroad), Random Nuka World raider (if you aligned with one of the groups during playthrough.), Imagine being in a rock an a hard place when suddenly Preston Garvey / Codsworth appears and does a one-hit kill then vanishes into the horizon as quickly as they came.
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It could be that Mysterious Stranger is anyone who has come crossed or unwittingly been subjected to the subliminal messaging as was used Vault 92. In essence the Mysterious Stranger might be the final product of that experiment turning anyone into an agent of the Vault-Tec.
looks like we now know that vault tech did set off the nukes themselves according to the show which is canon. hoping in season 2 with them teasing house and new vegas itself that we get some more backstory about house, vault tech and some of the other factions
nope the show is not canon like it already was explained in fallout 2 and confirmed by Tim Cain (it's creator) China dropped and started the Great War not Vault Tec...of course Amazon nowadays was never going to produce a show blaming the Chi-comms
Super early this time, I was wondering when your new video was going to be released. This will do me well while I have to wait more than an hour for my next class
Imagine if there's a super-vault city out there that's independant from all other factions kind of like an Enclave/Big Mt./Institute combo that will eventually try and do something? Maybe they built a huge spaceship (as was suggested by that dev? writer? guy) underground that they'll eventually launch in an attempt to escape from the Zettans who they knew were coming? That would make all of their cruel experiments actually understandable and worth something. They wouldn't be doing it to simply, "escape a dead Earth" or, "for the lols" but actually to survive against an entirely different space-borne civilization that would represent an ACTUAL existential threat to Humanity. While not everyone would think so, some would view subjecting people to experiments to figure out stuff on Earth first to be a necessary evil when it comes to saving all of humanity and making sure that NO issues arise on the generation ship.
Mysterious Stranger doesn't seem to JUST help the Protagonist.
Nick's investigation occurs before the Sole Survivor has left the Vault; this implies that the Stranger is in the Commonwealth helping others.
nicks talking about fallout 1, 2, 3 and vegas. those are the locations he states
@@darklegionnaire8304 Yes, he makes note of Shady Sands, NCR, and the Capital Wasteland, but the folder is there before you first interact with Nick, this means that he has been actively hunting the Stranger before you ever meet him.
Therefore, the appearances for the Commonwealth he notes would imply that they aren't necessarily linked to the Sole Survivor. Even if your individual character lacks the perk he's still noted in the Commonwealth.
@@Burned-Legate yeah those are the reports he's gathered since the time of fallout 76 nicks like a hundred years old or something. The stranger appears to EVERY protagonist not just frozen army man. They help the chosen aka us.
@@darklegionnaire8304 fair point but the note states that the stranger is "the last thing the commonwealth needs" implying he's already in the commonwealth. And if he wasn't, why would he be trying to "put the clues together to put this one away"? If the stranger wasn't in the commonwealth until the sole survivor was freed, Nick wouldn't show such interest
Helping people? My legion playthrough would beg to differ
So i just realized while watching this video but the Zetans probably can upgrade the Giddyup Buttercups as actual war mounts as they are the right size to rode them. Thats probably why they are so interested in them
That's both adorable and terrifying
They just wanted to recycle the parts for scrap, those giddy up parts had the most valuable materials in FO4, the factory was a gold mine for crafting
They just wanted their stolen idols back, to them its a god figure. Or maybe we stole them but didnt realize they slowly eat the souls of childen
That’s hilarious and somewhat intimidating
Zetans were yet another of Bethesda's mistakes, making "canon" (lol) and significant one of the random joke nearly Easter egg moments of the first games never meant to mean anything, like the giant footprint
The mysterous stranger in fallout 1 isnt a mysterious guy fallowing you from the shadows like in later games. The perk just means you are likely to find a stranger whenever you are in the middle of a combat and they will help you.
It’s was a great perk! FO1 was turn based & that stranger always showed up when you were almost out of AP!
@ericbates8995
Agreed!
He could die though and wouldnt show up anymore afterwards so has to be the same person Everytime he shows up.
ngl the fan made Fallout movie was so cool concept how it works, reminds me of this
@@R3TR0J4Nwhat movie
Wait.... there was supposed to be a 1998 "Fallout movie"? 😮
Let’s be glad. It probably would’ve killed any momentum the franchise had left, and Bethesda may have never bought them leading to it dying.
The Dwemer dropped the bombs, but you’re not ready for this conversation
Poor dwarves get blamed for everything.
Nah bro swear it was the thalmor
@@tommytwotacos8106All of us are dwarves to those pesky club wielding giants
😂 Mind blown
I read this in Dagoth Ur’s voice.
Mysterious Stranger was apparently based on a character from a work of the same name by Mark Twain. Twain wrote multiple versions of the story; each involves a supernatural character called "Satan" or "No. 44". So possibly a supernatural guardian. Wouldn't be the first supernatural element to Fallout and honestly better to have him NOT be delved too deep into to maintain his mystery.
Any source for that? Because in the first two games he didn't seem to be a supernatural entity like he does in the other games after Fallout 3
You're thinking of his other character "Black Guy Jim"
If that’s true, No. 44 is a great trivia piece as a 44 magnum is the choice sidearm for the stranger
Why he had kid in new vegas
The dude who give us The Mysterious Magnum
“Honestly better to have him NOT be delved too deep into to maintain his mystery.”
Sounds exactly like something a mysterious stranger would say…
I wonder if the non presence of inaccessible vaults indicates that the vaults we don't see are vaults that were never meant to be opened, and so developers just chose not to put them into the games. I haven't played all the games but who knows. Maybe there are people who are trapped forever.
Vault 101 was supposed to stay sealed forever, right?
When you look into.the atrocities of Vault Tec and their wicked experiments, being left in a vault forever is a walk in the park.
@@johnmurcott1273vault 101 was only made to be sealed by the new overseer iirc, and redtygr14 is talking about those that were planned pre-war to never open
The mysterious stranger always felt the most interesting to me, we know some stuff about him and it is like we don't know him at all
Almost like the Gman from the Half-Life franchise.
Kinda reminds me of the weird warp crap that is in 40k. Where something happens and it just like... "That happened"
@@Subject_Keter commisar, my battle buddy just got eaten by the warp....I need a new one
I think that’s what makes him, him, I mean he’s the mysterious stranger for a reason.
He’s the reason I carry a 44 as a sidearm in my fallout playthrough. May be slow to roll through but it packs a punch when you need it.
You could argue that the Zetans attacking in the various events could be an invasion of sorts. Assuming it is then they tried to invade in force, drawn to Appalachia and possibly other parts of the world, before being driven off by the survivors. They then needed to make the abominations and Giddy Ups as a way to replenish their depleted forces while also waiting for more to arrive. The Lone Wanderer then stopped them before they could launch their second invasion
It was absolutely the Zetans. They probed a military official for launch codes. Just refer to the Alien Captive Log 17 in the Cryo Lab in Fallout 3’s Mothership Zeta DLC.
@@PastorRapture Yes it's true, they did have the codes, but how would they launch them? With few exceptions the terminals of Fallout only have local network capabilities, if any network capabilities at all. They would struggle to find a way to access the terminals and computers that can actually launch the missiles, at least I think so.
@@Noblesix84in 76 zetans can and do release a aura that takes control of non human entities including robots and turrets even the ones you build, it's possible they didn't need to be there physically to cause the great war, just take over one person launch the missiles
@@Noblesix84 You're basing that off of the fact that all the games we interact with terminals there is no internet to speak of lol
here is my theory as to why the zetans have not committed to an all out invasion yet:
the nuclear war was absolutely orchestrated by the zetans.
what they did not orchestrate and possibly weren't even counting on at that time was the release of FEV into the atmosphere when the glow was hit, which could be the reason why they don't like stepping on the planet without space suits and while they're still observing earth, kidnapping humans, experimenting on them and perhaps even comparing them to pre war captives to see exactly what the trace amounts of FEV would actually do.
I love the colony ship idea it makes it so Vault tec wasn’t unrealistically evil
My favorite part about the Mysterious Stranger is when Nick tries to arrest him
An interesting part of the Vault 76 story is that the Overseer was younger than most of her residents coming in. Odds are Vault Tec was betting on her listening to Vault Tec after the war due to a lack of experience
To be fair to the Zetans It would only make sense for them to wear space suits. They probably live most of their lives in very controlled vault-like environments, ie spaceships and the wasteland known as Earth isn't exactly a place you want to visit without protective clothing. What with all the latent radiation and FEV in the air
The radiation in the wasteland is nothing compared to space.
@@isthisoneunavailablewelllll good point but use ur critical thinking, their space ships, wouldn’t they be well sealed and heavily protected 😂
Pathogens alone make it a good idea to wear suits i mean here on earth our bodies and the diseases evolved in a red queens race where we developed better immunity and the diseases developed better ways to transmit and proliferate maintaining a sort of balance but the zetans have no such immunity and its not as simple as a vaccination when you're talking about millions of years of evolutionary gaps, chances are they mostly would be incompatible for most diseases for hosts but it only takes 1 outlier to wipe out a population.
Can be seen as similar to grunts in Halo. Who have to breathe methane. Maybe they have to breathe a very specific mixture of gas.
@@tacticalmattress fo4 crashed zetan has an open helmet on earth in a cave
I’ve always thought definitive “China/The US/Vault Tec started the war” theories miss a bit of the spirit of what Fallout is intended to be about. I agree with Boyarsky’s take that it doesn’t matter and shouldn’t be a question that ever gets an answer.
China started it. Tim Cain said they started it because the US was doing FEV.
The vault tec logo on the bomb pretty much answered it.
@@BeKind1Love If you look at the logo on the bomb and the vault tec logo side by side, they aren't the same
I think the question enhances Fallout further:
Conspiracy is part of Fallout's universe.
The answer has to be more complex then just "one of the above." In fact, the more strings on board, connecting wild points, the better. If you can get the leaders of all three in a small room together, whispering through the smoke....
@@BeKind1Loveexactly! And the logos look the same, ignore what the fool below says
After watching the show and hearing about Vault 76. I think we now know where and how Hank may have gotten his hands on a nuke to destroy Shady Sands.
Oooooooo
our dwellers decendents still controlling appalachian nuclear arms and sending it hailing across the country on order from a vault tec executive honestly sounds totally in tune
Counting on Bethesda to make sense with the lore with 76 and the show is not a good idea.
I love how the Vaults cost over 150% what was initially bidded and yet many of the services and components were built by the lowest bidder. That's definitely really interesting
That's how real government contracts/bids work
Sounds exactly like government to me 😂
@@zivenwitczak3842 Yeah I figured
Standard contracting in the US, that's why everything is made like crap and you can hear through your neighbors walls even though you don't live in an apartment.
That's literally every government project ever.
Since playing the Mistress of Mysteries quest in FO76, I've always had the thought that Frederick Rivers had something to do with the Mysterious Stranger.
His wife had just built a network of super hero girls out of nowhere and dedicated her life and passion to doing good for the wasteland - only to be killed by the misguided mistakes of their own daughter.
During this escapade, Frederick himself was quiet, reserved, refusing to take sides or even interject in the family politics. But he did contribute his skills as an inventor - building specialized armor, modifying stealth boys, and even crafting specialized 44 magnums for each of the girls (hmm...)
Plus, Frederick's fate is unknown. We never see a body, he's not in the mansion that he used to work in, and there are mentions of him after the end of the quest. So what happened to him?
Well, who knows what would go through the mind of a genious inventor when he sees the dead bodies of his wife and only child, sacrifices to the cause of protecting the innocent and bringing evil to justice.
Let's also not forget that Frederick's wife was the Mistress of Mysteries - both in real life and fiction. And the character was often involved with the silver shroud - another similarly dressed super hero wielding a 44 pistol.
Does he use the stealth boys he used to experiment on to show up "out of nowhere" as the Mysterious Savior or Mysterious Stranger? Does he dig into his lab until he invents teleportation? Does he build new customized 44 pistols and create a new network of Mysterious Strangers - only called as such because they don't stick around enough to say othwrwise?
It seems like all the pieces are there and makes a hell of lot more sense than the supernatural theory I hear so often.
Didn't the silver shroud only use a special tommy gun?
And what about the guy with the guitar in New vegas who talks about his dad possibly being the mysterious stranger?
And the fact a dude randomly figuring out teleportation and teleporting to the other side of the country, requiring possibly an uncountable amount of energy and percision for that range, is more likely then him just being a ghost and ir guardian angel? Honestly someone discovering that in fallout seems less likely than the supernatural, or at the very least a heavily radiated guardian angel.
People pretend Fallout 76 doesn't exist, for alot of these Theories.
@@SalusFuturisticsit isn't canon my guy.
@@edwinbetancourt3958 Since Bethesda started "writing" Fallout, Canon is how far you can suspend your disbelief.
I wish there was a way to make a robot horse out of a buttercup toy. Maybe, there is like a "special edition" full size model that you can modify with parts to make it a functioning mount.
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34:15 If you consider the alien invasion in 76 cannon. Aliens have already tried to invade earth before, and they were defeated by the vault 76 dwellers. And they took 200 years to try again in fallout 3
I wouldn't have never thought that the mysterious stranger could be a ghost from the past that have unfinished business
It's a stretch, but possibly still a reference. Since Toshiro Kago is from somewhere within 1568-1600, it may be a nod to the Go Nagai manga/anime Black Lion/Kuro no Shishi, which features a swordsman from 1580 Japan who is abducted by aliens that augment him so he can kill all ninjas (in true Go Nagai style).
Sounds interesting now got to look it up
Damn, what a call with VaultTec having plans. I bet you're enjoying the latter half of season one
fr haha
This guy predicted the Fallout show ending...
For vault tech dropping the bomb
That's how in tune the show is with the lore.
@@seangough2742no surprise in fallout 3 megatons bomb literally had a vault Tec logo on it 😂 and they tried to spin it off as a „crashed plane“ we been know that’s bullshit
@@TheParaxore Never seen cope this hard
@@_PeachSoda yea, you are coping very hard. Ohhh people enjoy the show, scary!
Awesome video as always! There is one question I have: if the Zetans were attempting to manipulate American military personnel, could they have done the same with the Chinese military?
I wouldn't be surprised if they did since they abducted a Samurai and put him in stasis.
So it's possible that the Zetans would have gone to other countries as well.
The prediction in this episode is great.
To correct you on the Mysterious Stranger in Fo76
He can appear as either the "Mysterious Saviour" as you mentioned, arriving when the player is incapacitated OR he can appear as the classic "Mysterious Stranger" during VATS combat. These are two separate perk trees you can spec into.
Aha! So two agents with different orders, or the same man helping you in different ways? 🤔
@@Synonymous101 They both take on the same appearance, perhaps our mysterious friend is multi-talented
@@Funklesthis implies that the main part of his title is that he is mysterious… I wonder if anyone else has that title in any games.
I'd like to point out that at some point during construction of the Vaults, the Enclave took control over Project Safehouse and, since they decided against using them to preserve humanity, subverted the project to their own ends.
I just watched a video by AltFall today that theorizes each vault is an experiment to gather dats for an interstellar,ark-style starship that would need to operate over generations of travel, and how each inhumane experiment would gather data for Vault-tec's Ark
@@mattgreen7692 I actually know which one you're talking about! It does seem like a logically sound theory all around...at least, until you stop and think 'Wait, if this really was the Enclave's true intentions, then wouldn't that ultimately make their presence in FO3 completely pointless?'
I'm just saying, if I'd done extensive research and performed possibly hundreds of live tests all to someday have humanity freely sailing across the stars, I personally wouldn't bother worrying about some mutated freaks that I could just leave behind lol
@@Dragonoid9810 there's an old bit of Lore from the cancelled van buren version of Fallout 3.
The Enclave was originally constructing a pair of heavy lift space rockets pre war but they were never completed. Lack of time and corrupt diversion of funds.
The end result is that the plan to flee earth was abandoned and they switched to plan B which was the cleanup operation.
@@MediumRareOpinions I hope that's not how it goes, a fallout spin-off that takes place in the future on a vaultec style generation ship or alien planet would be fucking amazing
@@Dragonoid9810 "then wouldn't that ultimately make their presence in FO3 completely pointless?"
Well yes, and they are.
The only reason lore-wise the Enclave is there, because the Enclave is like the stormtroopers from star wars.
Just finished watching Fallout series, some are theories actually are true. Im suprised
This is great. The fact that so many theories can be argued just shows how rich the Fallout Universe is.
From what I heard it seems like the mysterious people are definitely guardian angels. Seeing that we clean up the commonwealth and they’re help aiding us in battle
Starborn...?
If by clean up you mean kill every npc besides children you would be correct
That's a really fascinating about the Mark Twain story, I never knew about that! It could certainly put the Mysterious Stranger in a more interesting light.
I’ve watched and listend to numerous fallout lore channels out there, and yours, is by far, the most well sourced I’ve come across. Thanks for the content and definitely got my subscription
“Keep your Geiger ticking low.”
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I'm happy we still have so many mysteries and questions to theorize about in the Fallout universe.
I still want a giddy up buttercup in the game so the lone wanderer can ride on a goddamn robot horse
Would you believe me if I told you theres a mod for that?
Bruh... Watching this video after watching season 1 of show hits different.
Fascinating, I'd never thought on the Zetan angle before, but it makes perfect sense!
5:50 I cant beleive you predicted what happened in "Fallout 5" 5 months before it was released
Well, the fallout show confirmed the theory that vault-tec started the war. You were spot on.
do you think the show will explore some other long standings mysteries?
Bruh.
I can’t wait for season 2!!
I took it as a nod to Vault-Tec starting the war but that they didn't actually in the end. Considering Cooper's wife was pretty high up and it seems unlikely she'd have put her kid in any kind of harm.
I think this would be the most interesting way they could go tbh. I always feel like who "started the war" should be a mystery.
@@Pimp_Shrimp Then you must not have paid much attention. It's literally Cooper's wife that suggests to the representatives of the other companies that they drop the bomb themselves. Beforehand, she seems 110% convinced that the bombs WILL be dropped. Which is why Cooper was suspicious of her in the first place.
Haha watching this after finishing the TV Series. God Damn ValtTec
I genuinely love your Fallout lore videos! So soothing and interesting. Thank you for being awesome.
A 45 minute video on Fallout lore? Yes please!
7:00 little did Vault Tec know, the dwellers of Vault 76 were absolute monsters who would drop nukes for fun 😂
the abominations absolutely terrified me when I was younger 😂
Man, really sounds like they used some of the story from the cancelled movie in the show just from that stuff you mentioned about Vault Tec
I literally just started looking for lore videos to listen to at work when this dropped so perfect timing!!
For the Mysterious Stranger speculation, in my head I'm going with the idea that they are all members of a time agency, and appear for as little amount of time as necessary to nudge events towards a specific future outcome.
A question to ask is where the alien in fallout 4 comes from. We destroy one mothership in 2277 and capture the other. Is Zeta still in orbit? Has another mothership arrived?
Even more interesting since it implies mothership zeta was either lost or left post F3 OR the reason the ship crashed in F4 was due to Zeta firing on it
welp its 5 months later and we know who....
Imo I don't think the show actually confirms who dropped the bombs first, just that the people in question had the intention and the means and that it would've been in their interest, trying to keep it spoiler free here but if it was you-know-who then wouldn't the dad and daughter at the beginning have been made aware of it by B?
@@jamro9011 Why would the dad need to be made aware? He was literally there when it happened and was friends with the literal owner of the company and was hand picked by him lmao. Pretty sure he knew who dropped them, especially when he himself dropped one in the show and even admitted to it.
@Rrezz I'm on about Coop and his daughter in the opening scene where the bombs are dropped, if it was VT that fired first then I'd think that B would've told them so that they weren't in danger
@@jamro9011that makes zero sense lmao it’s confirmed vault tech did it idk why fans like you are disillusioned with the fact that just bc the theory is fact now it doesn’t paint the whole picture people are acting like bc they finally answered a question real fans have been wanting to know for 20+ years it “ruins the mystery” wtf I don’t watch/play a story to just not get to a ending with a conclusion and everything being revealed and I think they did it pretty well in the show
@@Rrezz The wife didn't know he was listening in, and we still don't know _when_ they drop the bomb because Coop didn't, either.
the biggest mystery is what happened to the rest of the world like Europe, Russia, Australia, etc.
They were also bombed. The entire world was.
@@phoenix_horizon1275 what about Madagascar?
@@Rickardo3000 Fallout: Madagascar would be fire
@knightwhosaysno4392 Maurice I can't move it move it anymore 😭
@@knightwhosaysno4392how many animals would be in that?
I must say this has been one of my favorite videos you have done. A most welcome treat.
The funny thing is in the Fallout TV series, Vault Tech was willing to drop the bombs they most likely did for some of them
About to have a whole lot of content with this coming show. Super excited
I love the long videos. You keep us interested for so long without letting our minds wander. Which is saying a lot because I am terrible at focusing
So crazy watching this after watching the TV show haha! You’re exactly right, vault tec dropped the bombs
OOOH new fallout lore videos!! Glad I got recommended,it’s hard to find people that still make videos on this beaut of a game.
Its crazy that we went from the Vault-Tec dropping the bomb as a crazy fan theory... to the fallout show (which is canon as confirmed by Bethesda designers and Todd Howard) confirming that they did in fact intend to and plan to do this. No confirmation yet if they actually managed to be first, but they were talking about it openly among executives.
@@TheBigGSN5 you are a clown. The reality is that Bethesda controls canon. Get over it. No matter what you pretend in your head, that’s just a fact. Everything they choose to be canon is canon.
I always wondered more about vault tec and if they survived the war or not if’s they didn’t survive I hope they got what they deserved because many vault dwellers such as the protagonists had what I took to survive and put the fate of the wasteland to a bright and hopeful future
Now that the show is out and some things are almost certainly confirmed (like the vault-tec starting it all in 2077)i must say that this video aged amazingly well. Big props to you Mr. Synonymous
Standing Ovation!! great work man. Awesome Job!
How did Dr. Lesko get his nerdy mitts on F.E.V.? Can you start the game with the Wild Wasteland perk, get the Zetan gun, then Auto-Doc away that perk while in Big MT, and then kill those mercenaries and get the unique gauss rifle?
AND WHERE DO ALL THESE DAMN FRESH APPLES KEEP COMING FROM?!?!!?!?
To your second question: the answer is yes. Source: I’ve done it.
@@Nukaturtle thank you!!!
Superb video. REALLY enjoyed this longer video which covered a lot of topics I was really interested in. Great job, Would love to see more like this.
Holy crap, right on the money, my guy!
The vaults were definitely experiments designed to prepare for space travel. All of the experiments are situations that would apply aboard a colony ship:
Absolutely wonderful content. Always love your work and its high quality.
AWESOME video, I really need to replay this series soon!
7:11 I think we know now, rest in peace shady sands
My personal theory for the Zetans is that humanity began to harness Nuclear Power and they were able to pick up on the unholy amount of radiation Earth was giving off. Then when the Great War happened, they saw it as a perfect opportunity to invade. They probably see Earth as a giant gas station with all the radiation.
It would be very interesting if Vault Tec was actually ran by aliens...
Holy fuck so much of that actually makes sense. After all, who stands to gain from the social experiments in the event of a nuclear holocaust? I'm honestly shocked I never considered it until now.
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Illegal aliens
Just how the world economic forum is today
Ah. You’ve seen behind the curtain, too.
dude called it 6 months early
Confidently too
@@alijakuljuh509with his whole chest
That vault tech theory be hitting different after the show :o
no longer a "theory", tis exactly what happened.
@@SA80TAGE and it's the laziest option they could've chosen for the series.
Fallout is becoming just like Star Wars, completely creatively bankrupt.
@@waltonsimons9082 china starting a war on america is so cliche and overused theres no way you think the shows choice was the laziest
@@lamontasaurus2771People will find a reason to dislike something no matter how good it is, unfortunately
@@waltonsimons9082 no, nuclear war with China was the laziest option.
Tod Howard watched this and was like I’m gonna use that
Welp, the show confirmed Vault-Tec did, indeed, drop the bombs. Though we all kinda been knew lol.
Looks like the Vault-tec antagonicing will happen in the season 2 of the show, watching this after the show makes so much sense in my head.
I know most players would be against this but i would love to play a fallout game where you get the choice to spend a great deal of time growing your character in the vault before something happens to where you have to leave it
It makes me think of the old “choose-your-adventure” books. I’d love it if they made one of those for Fallout, or even just a simpler narrative-focused game. Would be so fun that way.
Splendid content. Big Fallout lore fan and you scratch that itch with vigour
I think Vault Tec may have had a peace walker type AI system with the ability to fool Chinese nuclear defences into thinking they fired first in order to start the war.
I call the mysterious stranger Mr. Clutch, because...he always comes in clutch 😁
Vault tec being on the bomb in megaton was a clue. But I think they changed their mind
Wow you straight up predicted the fallout show plot early in the video. Props to you
The original fallout duology, the mysterious stranger is a random man / woman wearing the leather armor. as if he/she was just strolling by and helped a stranger (you) in need. Then Bethesda came along and borked it all up.. The mysterious stranger in fo3 / NV / fo4 could/should have been a random npc just passing by. Especially in NV where it could be anyone you're allied to. Like Civilian or hunter/A Kings member/Victor/Yesman, random Legionnary/BoS member/Enclave remnant/NCR soldier/Ranger.
Fo4 could have had random settlers, dismissed followers, Friendly supermutants (if you're with Strong), Random friendly ghoul (with Hancock), A synth / Courser (if you control the institute), Freed synth (railroad), Random Nuka World raider (if you aligned with one of the groups during playthrough.), Imagine being in a rock an a hard place when suddenly Preston Garvey / Codsworth appears and does a one-hit kill then vanishes into the horizon as quickly as they came.
I have played the Fallout series since Fallout 2; I have played each game multiple times and I know it well, except after watching your channel I don't know a damn thing about Fallout. I am truly impressed by this channel... Thank you for giving me new insight about my favorite franchise
With the TV show... We have a lot more insight into who started it and why
It could be that Mysterious Stranger is anyone who has come crossed or unwittingly been subjected to the subliminal messaging as was used Vault 92. In essence the Mysterious Stranger might be the final product of that experiment turning anyone into an agent of the Vault-Tec.
You were spot on lol the show confirmed it
Your guess of Vault-Tec starting the war was pretty good, considering the show. I'm sure a lot of people guessed the same, but still
Great analysis, thanks for sharing!
looks like we now know that vault tech did set off the nukes themselves according to the show which is canon. hoping in season 2 with them teasing house and new vegas itself that we get some more backstory about house, vault tech and some of the other factions
the Fallout TV show 100% confirms vault tec dropped the first bombs.
Sweet. A new video to check out before work tonight, and a longer one at that. 😊 👍
This aged astoundingly well. "Vault Tec are the enemies""
nope the show is not canon like it already was explained in fallout 2 and confirmed by Tim Cain (it's creator) China dropped and started the Great War not Vault Tec...of course Amazon nowadays was never going to produce a show blaming the Chi-comms
Super early this time, I was wondering when your new video was going to be released.
This will do me well while I have to wait more than an hour for my next class
I'm sure your vindication tastes even better than an ice-cold nuka-cola
crazy how the new tv show explains this mystery holy shit shout out to the writers of the show🎖
Well, at least now we know VaultTec dropped the bombs first.
I love the mark connection. Awesome, even if it's a bunch of ifs. So cool. Ties perfectly w 76.
I bet you had some difficult conversations with Amazon Prime and the Fallout show runners about this video 😂
Good content as always Syn! Your content and other fallout lore creators have been a huge inspiration for my fallout 2d20 campaign
Would love to see a video delving into the lore behind Atom and the Cult that follows him!
Imagine if there's a super-vault city out there that's independant from all other factions kind of like an Enclave/Big Mt./Institute combo that will eventually try and do something?
Maybe they built a huge spaceship (as was suggested by that dev? writer? guy) underground that they'll eventually launch in an attempt to escape from the Zettans who they knew were coming? That would make all of their cruel experiments actually understandable and worth something. They wouldn't be doing it to simply, "escape a dead Earth" or, "for the lols" but actually to survive against an entirely different space-borne civilization that would represent an ACTUAL existential threat to Humanity. While not everyone would think so, some would view subjecting people to experiments to figure out stuff on Earth first to be a necessary evil when it comes to saving all of humanity and making sure that NO issues arise on the generation ship.
Couldn’t have timed this better, just went on break
GET BACK TO WORK
@@megatronjenkins2473 damn megatron I’ve been back on shift for two hours now 😂 didn’t finish the video so I’m saving ir for later
@@incorporealfear and yet you take the time to grovel at my feet🤣🤣🤣🤣