Classic WoW WINhancement Shaman Guide

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  • Опубликовано: 23 июл 2024
  • Heyo friendos,
    I’m High Warlord Holderhek.
    I raided all of vanilla as an enhancement shaman, every single tier of content from MC to Naxx. As this "meme spec" I frequently topped the DPS meters above other “pure” damage dealers.
    I was able to do this because I used the shaman as a DPS class and not some sort of glorified buff bot. If speced/geared/played correctly the enhancement shaman can output exceedingly competitive DPS.
    I’m going to show you how.
    Check out my follow up video for updated stats and values!
    WINhancement II: • Classic WoW WINhanceme...
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    ::Video Timestamps::
    Specs: • Classic WoW WINhanceme...
    Buffs: • Classic WoW WINhanceme...
    Phase 1 Gearset: • Classic WoW WINhanceme...
    Phase 1 Damage: • Classic WoW WINhanceme...
    Phase 3/4 Gearset: • Classic WoW WINhanceme...
    Phase 3/4 Damage: • Classic WoW WINhanceme...
    Phase 6 Gearset: • Classic WoW WINhanceme...
    Phase 6 Damage: • Classic WoW WINhanceme...
    Phase 6 RAID BUFFED Damage: • Classic WoW WINhanceme...
    Outro: • Classic WoW WINhanceme...
    Credits: • Classic WoW WINhanceme...
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    ::Video Links::
    Complete Buff Guide:
    docs.google.com/spreadsheets/...
    UPDATED! Phase 1 Gearset: sixtyupgrades.com/set/9GFSC8U...
    UPDATED! Phase 3/4 Gearset: sixtyupgrades.com/set/8MuG1sA...
    UPDATED! 6% HIT Phase 6: sixtyupgrades.com/set/aZy9w2m...
    UPDATED! 9% HIT Phase 6: sixtyupgrades.com/set/mXdzGsi...
    5/32/14 Spec: classicdb.ch/?talent#hxZxVbdV...
    19/32/0 Spec: classicdb.ch/?talent#hE0zx0hZ...
    0/32/19 Spec: classicdb.ch/?talent#hZxVbdVM...
    Class damage in MC: • Class DPS/HPS Rankings...
    Class damage in BWL: • Class DPS/HPS Rankings...
    Class damage in Naxx: • Class DPS/HPS Rankings...
    :::Contact Me:::
    Discord: Holderhek#7777
    Enhance Shaman Discord: / discord
    Twitch: / theholderhek
    WoW: Fairbanks, Holderkek
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Комментарии • 219

  • @hinkhall1186
    @hinkhall1186 4 года назад +12

    4:51 - 5:20 This is the most beautiful thing I needed to hear, thank you holder.

  • @Kingmaster64
    @Kingmaster64 4 года назад +8

    That stormstrike bit made me almost spit out my water :D love it

  • @makstedi
    @makstedi 4 года назад +2

    instant sub mate, love this stuff, im rolling tauren shaman and using your guides

  • @MrVice_mk1
    @MrVice_mk1 4 года назад +11

    Stormstrike argumentation is brilliant. Simply genious o7

  • @guidoromani4009
    @guidoromani4009 4 года назад +7

    I laughed a lot. Long live for enhan shaman!
    I will definitely play it!

  • @carlmcclatchie2122
    @carlmcclatchie2122 5 лет назад +2

    Hi, thanks for the insight, last time out I was an alliance druid, this time I am going shaman, lots of people have been poo pooing enhance shaman builds, glad to see some actual well formulated data showing their use end game in PVE. I will certainly be going enchantment end game after seeing this. They look great in PVP too.

    • @Holderhek
      @Holderhek  5 лет назад +5

      Carl McClatchie basically if you’re not playing a fury warrior people are gonna get mad that you exist as melee. Have them eat your debuff slot and go about your day.

  • @highwon
    @highwon 4 года назад +20

    When people ask me to join their guild;
    "I demand my birthright!" Love it!

    • @chancetrace4532
      @chancetrace4532 2 года назад

      you probably dont care but does any of you know a tool to log back into an instagram account..?
      I was dumb forgot the account password. I would love any assistance you can give me

  • @cactohippie
    @cactohippie 4 года назад +1

    Loved your guide! Ty so much!

  • @andresvaldevit3692
    @andresvaldevit3692 4 года назад +2

    Best enhacement shaman guide for classic WoW period. Why have I stumbled on it just now? I lost my laptop just at the start of classic and I'm still waiting for the new one to come in the mail. I've had around 9 months to think over what class to play in classic and I coming back to the idea of the enhancement shaman again. With this guide I really might settle for a shaman.

    • @Holderhek
      @Holderhek  4 года назад +1

      Check out our discord listed in my info on the video for a huge knowdleg base of shaman bros

    • @andresvaldevit3692
      @andresvaldevit3692 4 года назад

      @@Holderhek Hey btw. I've been looking for info on TBC Shaman. What's your opinion on Dragonstrike. Is it worth it at the end all the effort to grow BS just for this craft...and maybe a stormherald for pvp?

    • @rcalabre23
      @rcalabre23 4 года назад +2

      I would rather wear a ball gag and a leather G-String, than Totem Twist. Please tell me that Classic is no longer hard, and after all these years we can actually raid and play.

    • @Holderhek
      @Holderhek  4 года назад

      @@rcalabre23 classic isn't hard and I only twist when it ups MY DPS

    • @Holderhek
      @Holderhek  4 года назад

      @@andresvaldevit3692 from everything I'm reading blacksmithing is the way to go for max DPS

  • @golvellius6855
    @golvellius6855 4 года назад +3

    Zug zug you got the ba.. honor to play this me.. amazing spec! I am also going again the tide and playing enhance

  • @Ash4eTo
    @Ash4eTo 5 лет назад +3

    Love your cadence, your witty humor, and it seems you ACTUALLY know what you're talking about. For all this, I thank you :) Looking forward to your videos.

  • @AristeidisKypriotis
    @AristeidisKypriotis 4 года назад +8

    Used to play Enh shaman since, roughly, patch 1.8. Was considering playing again in classic but honestly was discouraged by all the naysayers and people putting down Enh as a meme spec.
    I can't even begin to explain what a breath of fresh air your videos are! Suffice to say that I just rolled a fresh Orc shaman thanks to your content.
    Thank you and may the Elements guide you

  • @jkm52399
    @jkm52399 4 года назад +2

    Love this bro👌🏼

  • @jslaughter95
    @jslaughter95 4 года назад +1

    this is a super chill remix of the FF theme

  • @Jerppa95
    @Jerppa95 4 года назад +1

    Thanks a lot for your videos! I love them a lot. I hope that all these gear stuff (like Drakefang Talisman) are realistic. I know it's theoretical BiS at some point, but is it also something enha shamans absolutely get? I will be going shaman and wish to play enhance in endgame.
    Also, are there any gold farms for enhance shamans (aside from the regular rune/felcloth etc. world farms)?

    • @Holderhek
      @Holderhek  4 года назад +1

      Getting those items relies solely on your charisma stat. I believe in you.
      The only thing I'm gonna be farming endgame is demonic runes.

  • @Falomiut
    @Falomiut 4 года назад +1

    Nice job! Greetings from Paraguay!

  • @user-hm7wd8mb8q
    @user-hm7wd8mb8q 4 года назад +1

    Thank you very much bro!

  • @angelmusicvideos
    @angelmusicvideos 4 года назад +1

    Love how you joined in a month ago and I am so happy you have, couldn't help but to wonder how long you been working on these data sheets and information you point out?

    • @Holderhek
      @Holderhek  4 года назад +1

      Angel AMVs as long as it takes and as information updates so will these guides.

    • @angelmusicvideos
      @angelmusicvideos 4 года назад +1

      @@Holderhek cool bro well your info hits where it crits and to the point where you action out performances what has been told so I am happy to come accross your sector.

    • @angelmusicvideos
      @angelmusicvideos 4 года назад

      @@Holderhek wondering my friend do you have a video or will be making one on stat priority when looking for gear upgrades. My stat in line will go str-agil-Intel and this is my grind to level 1-60 then after that I will be filling that hit cap gap but other then that I am clueless on what I should prioritize.

  • @cooltron
    @cooltron 4 года назад +4

    I played WoW since closed beta and on release until about 2008 as well. I hit HWL on my Shammy and Grand Marshal on my Paladin. Enhancement is the best spec for vanilla/classic.

    • @cooltron
      @cooltron 4 года назад

      I just realized you're on my server too Fairbanks hahaha. Crazy.

    • @cooltron
      @cooltron 4 года назад

      @Holderhek - Can you join my discord later today in a bit ? Wanted to talk about some talents ?

    • @Holderhek
      @Holderhek  4 года назад

      I'm traveling right now so my ability to talk on disc is somewhat limited. I might be able to tho hit me up in discord @ Holderhek#7777

    • @cooltron
      @cooltron 4 года назад

      @@Holderhek When do you get back?

    • @Holderhek
      @Holderhek  4 года назад

      @@cooltron December 13th

  • @mariusjebeleanu2865
    @mariusjebeleanu2865 4 года назад +1

    I have my first Enhancement Shaman (lvl 46), and my friend told me that after Lvl 60, I would become a 'Resto Shaman'. Now I can prove him wrong. Thanks, man, awesome content!

    • @Holderhek
      @Holderhek  4 года назад

      Resto is terrible. The most you'd ever need in resto is 21 points.

  • @williamflores9779
    @williamflores9779 4 года назад +1

    Hey I watched the video and can you tell me how often and at least how many dark tunes and mana pots I should be bringing?

    • @Holderhek
      @Holderhek  4 года назад

      William Flores i like to roll with a little over 10 demonic runes + 2 stacks of mana pots for raids.

  • @tylerm6080
    @tylerm6080 4 года назад

    Hey planning on playing enhancement in classic and curious if it's worth going for nightfall if I'm just trying to dps and totem twist, would it be worth it to get or would that just turn me into more of a buff bot

    • @Holderhek
      @Holderhek  4 года назад

      Tyler M if you’re looking to totem twist your individual dps is going to suffer a great deal. You won’t have mana to do much else unless you stack int/MP5 gear and then you’re gonna hit for nothing.
      So totem twisting IS a buff bot. There really isn’t anyway to do it + maximize your damage.

  • @defaultdaniel
    @defaultdaniel 4 года назад +1

    Yo holder, love the videos, but have one question. I play all 3 specs on Herod, horde side. Just got more into enhancement. I can't find a straight answer for something so basic: Does 1 Str = 2 AP? I've read its been changed to 1Str = 1 AP, but no one says when. Thank you.

    • @Holderhek
      @Holderhek  4 года назад

      1str is 2ap. 20 agi is 1 crit.

    • @defaultdaniel
      @defaultdaniel 4 года назад +1

      to answer my own question, yes 1str = 2 ap. Changing cloaks around revealed this as the rag cloak w 9 str added 18 power.

  • @j-sin3344
    @j-sin3344 4 года назад +1

    Great video. I would like to know if you have key binding / macro videos? Id also like to know what mouse you use, kbd too, not that its a big deal, but my main question is how do you setup spell/totem/pots/etc so they are accessible when needed. In pvp where each class, for the most part, we need different spell/totem/pots/etc c, so how is your hardware setup to be able to access everything you have as quick as possible? I know most people are not mouse clicking on half of the abilities, at least not high end. Im still lvling so once I get to 60 ill have a better setup but just wondering. Thanks and keep up the great work!
    Regards,
    Viscerator Faerlina sham

    • @Holderhek
      @Holderhek  4 года назад

      I use a logitech g600 mmo mouse and have a lot of things bound to it and shift+mouse. I could do a video about that for sure. I have something like 39 binds.

    • @j-sin3344
      @j-sin3344 4 года назад

      @@Holderhek Nice thanks, I have an antique 2 button mouse FTloss, doesnt even have a scroll wheel, heh, but Im just trying to get a good layout for each pvp and pve obviously making things I need literally 1 click away. I hadn't even thought (or even knew) about the shift w/ mouse, I use it on the kbd. Great Vids I appreciate all you've done here. Keep it up!

  • @Drebin
    @Drebin 5 лет назад +1

    Do you manage to get raid spots? how hard is to gear enhance over the melee specs? Cause after watching this I am seriously considering playing enhance over rogue. also awesome video loved the sarcastic tone rofl.

    • @Holderhek
      @Holderhek  5 лет назад +1

      I mean rogue/warrior is always gonna have an easier time doing damage/getting a raid spot/getting gear from randoms than enhance. There is too much baggage associated with the spec that even if you pulled double the DPS of anyone in the raid they might not invite you because "lol enhance lol" -- that being said, find some friends to roll with and work as hard as you can and Enhance can absolutely surprise everyone with it's damage potential.

  • @Nirvash64
    @Nirvash64 5 лет назад +2

    Hey!! I really enjoy your video. Thanks for all 😘
    Got a question : the hitcap is 9 or 8%?
    And if it's 8 and I play orc with axe and hit talent I need only 2%?
    Thanks!

    • @Holderhek
      @Holderhek  5 лет назад +1

      Amaëlle the hitcap is 9% if you’re not an orc or an orc using anything but an axe.
      Nature’s guidance only gives us 2% hit with 3 points, 1% hit with 2 points and 0% hit with 1 point.
      You’d want 6% hit from gear as an orc with an axe and 7% for all other situations.

    • @Nirvash64
      @Nirvash64 5 лет назад

      @@Holderhek OK thanks! But on your screen of blue topic they said : gear and talent. So if my talent provide 3%, why I need 7% from the gear? In all that give me 10% and we want 9% with the blue post no? I'm sorry I'm literally a new in enha sham and vanilla

    • @Nirvash64
      @Nirvash64 5 лет назад

      Dunno how give the racial axe hit

    • @Holderhek
      @Holderhek  5 лет назад +1

      Amaëlle lvl 63 mobs reduce your chance to hit, with 305 weapon skill you’re essentially attacking as a level 61 vs a 63 so you need less +hit

    • @Nirvash64
      @Nirvash64 5 лет назад

      @@Holderhek thanks a lot. 👍👌

  • @Jackaroo.
    @Jackaroo. 5 лет назад +5

    Shaman is the ultimate class.

  • @MrCooljeppe
    @MrCooljeppe 5 лет назад +3

    i'd like to rewiev your parses on my own, would it be possible for you to post them?

    • @Holderhek
      @Holderhek  5 лет назад +2

      I have a follow up video I’m working on with the parses in it.

  • @petterkjrnet9075
    @petterkjrnet9075 4 года назад +1

    You are OP lad.

  • @knightofwhale2834
    @knightofwhale2834 4 года назад +1

    Lots of great advice here. I originally considered playing elemental but I think you've convinced me to roll enhancement. I guess the only question I have for you is:
    How did you ride a raptor as a tauren? I thought they couldn't in classic.... they are just so damn cool.

    • @Holderhek
      @Holderhek  4 года назад

      You can do anything with the power of a private server. In classic you just need to turn in a bunch of runecloth to the appropriate horde cloth quartermaster. The mount I have in this video is the og vanilla epic raptor and it's available in classic sadly BUT you can ride a raptor.

    • @knightofwhale2834
      @knightofwhale2834 4 года назад

      @@Holderhek oh I think they restrict taurens from riding them as well as the skeletal horses

  • @sku440
    @sku440 4 года назад

    I played enhancement back in the day, but just when I got Nightfall. Until then I was a healer. Switching to melee was fun.
    So you dont like to use Nightfall? What us your take on that weapon?

    • @Holderhek
      @Holderhek  4 года назад +1

      Nightfall is a curse and should not be forced on us. It's an offtank or hunter weapon. They have instant attacks we do not have. Their uptime is better.

  • @BigBoiClimbs
    @BigBoiClimbs 4 года назад

    So to clarify, does Stormstrike get deprioritized over all other debuffs and get pushed out? Does it not push something else out when you apply it?

    • @Holderhek
      @Holderhek  4 года назад

      Seto Guyba it pushes off low priority debuffs like corruption. It’s really not an issue at all unless you’re trying for some sort of speed clear. It’s not an “optimized” debuff but it can be fit in easily.

  • @Dantehhhhh
    @Dantehhhhh 4 года назад

    So regarding Elemental Devastation, is at any time preferable to get spell crit instead of physical crit to get to a certain threshold? (like 12% spell crit or so). Or is it always physical crit all the way even if you have ED?

    • @Holderhek
      @Holderhek  4 года назад

      Dani Castro always physical crit unless the piece has both. ED is a raid talent only really utilized via a mages 10% frost crit buff + dragonslayer + songflower. Otherwise, nature’s guidance is better.

    • @Dantehhhhh
      @Dantehhhhh 4 года назад

      Holderhek for PVP? I agree that Nature’s Guidance is great in general but I think putting all those talents in really crappy resto ones like reduce heal mana etc as enhancement is quite dubious... enh/elemental seems much better, even without ED right

    • @Holderhek
      @Holderhek  4 года назад

      Dani Castro natures guidance is just that good of a talent, as well as reducing totem costs. For PvP talents are a whole different story as stormstrike isn’t great at all and you’d want Natures Swiftness or Elemental Mastery. In my experience anyway.

  • @Thargwin
    @Thargwin 4 года назад +1

    Can you make a video about the classicwowbis website it seems off for enhance shaman i am really curious about your take on it

    • @Holderhek
      @Holderhek  4 года назад

      I'll give that a look and report back.

  • @nikgervae
    @nikgervae 5 лет назад +2

    Your video is making me want to play again, and to give Enhancement a try. I was a Demonology Warlock back in vanilla (and managed to do much better than your parses show, tyvm), but I think I would like to try something new.

    • @Holderhek
      @Holderhek  5 лет назад

      Nik Gervae hahaha prove everyone wrong my guy. I fully support it.

  • @rojofish504
    @rojofish504 2 года назад +1

    Playing SoM? Would love an updated guide for Enh

  • @Kite
    @Kite 5 лет назад

    Looks like the gearset links in the description are dead. :(

  • @Keilink
    @Keilink 4 года назад

    Heya!
    Since I didn't raid at Vanilla I'm wondering: what's the average demonic rune count you need for one raid session ?

    • @Holderhek
      @Holderhek  4 года назад +1

      Keilink it all depends on how efficient you guild is on kills. Could be as few as 1-2 per boss. I’d say one stack per raid is fine. That + mana pots.

    • @Keilink
      @Keilink 4 года назад +1

      @@Holderhek Okay thanks! :D

  • @andreaslechler4698
    @andreaslechler4698 4 года назад

    Does Stormstrike drop every debuff or just certain ones? Might habve missed it.

    • @Holderhek
      @Holderhek  4 года назад +1

      It drops off low priority debuffs and shuffles around medium priority debufs.

  • @giffeswe
    @giffeswe 5 лет назад +1

    Hello great video! I have questions about stormstrike. Doesnt it block a debuff slot and therefore isnt allowed in raid setting? What talent would you use instead? Nature damage = bad i’ve heard due to high nature resist on early Bosses, frost shock amazing dmg due to curse and icy chill!

    • @Holderhek
      @Holderhek  5 лет назад

      William Bruzelius Storm strike is fine.
      There are about 8 debuffs that NEED to be on the boss. They are:
      Curse of Shadow
      Curse of Elements
      Curse of Recklessness
      Winter’s Chill (Until AQ) Ignite (Naxx)
      Sunder Armor
      Nightfall
      Faerie Fire
      Improved Shadow Bolt
      These are the best for just straight raid damage.
      From here you cycle in mitigation debuffs;
      Thunder Clap
      Demoralizing Shout
      Curse of Weakness
      Now you can add in situational debuffs given your raid makeup:
      Scorch depending on Mage count and raiding tier.
      Hunter’s Mark / Tier armor reduction.
      Annihilator Proc (for melee heavy raids)
      Thunderfury
      Shadow Priest utilization for 1 or 2 debuffs.
      Gift of Arthas
      Arcanite Dragonling (quicker fights with Fire Mage heavy groups)
      Stormstrike
      Flame Shock
      Hemo
      Corruption
      And there is consideration for taunts as well, which will overlap.
      Adjust to your raid / favorite flavor palate.
      So yes, you can totally use Stormstrike. It’s not going to be an issue.

  • @flankyfranky3600
    @flankyfranky3600 4 года назад +1

    man i love this intro so funny :D

  • @repptorr
    @repptorr 5 лет назад +5

    Love and Sub to you

  • @IndustryOfMagic
    @IndustryOfMagic 3 года назад +1

    0:29 I am the other one of these 3 ppl being rank14 and fully engulfed in all 3 major raids during vanilla.
    High Warlord Voilak from Bloodhoof EU

  • @heho1279
    @heho1279 5 лет назад +1

    i Can t believe you can pull 450 dps in MC with pre raid gear as an enhancement shaman.
    Very Impressive!!!

    • @Jackaroo.
      @Jackaroo. 5 лет назад +2

      For real! I think enhancement shaman get a bad rep in Vanilla because of the general lack of knowledge among the average player, and the scarcity of healers, requiring most classes that could heal to heal. Now that people have theorycrafted, tested, and played with a more comprehensive understanding of the game, it's clear enhancement shaman are competitive as dps.

  • @Innojin
    @Innojin 5 лет назад +5

    Frost mages add a debuff that increases the crit chance of frost spells on the target by 10%.
    What do you think about using Frost Shock instead of Earth Shock for the Elemental Devastation spec?

    • @Holderhek
      @Holderhek  5 лет назад +3

      Inn0c You absolutely would use frost shock in a raid instead of earth shock. The damage bonus you would get from curse of elements would be equitable to the damage bonus earths shock gets from storm strike. Essentially these damage numbers would be interchangeable without you having to spam a high threat ability.

    • @Innojin
      @Innojin 5 лет назад +1

      @@Holderhek awesome. Thx for your answer

  • @ymotstens
    @ymotstens 4 года назад +1

    What is stat prio for enha shamans in classic PVP?

    • @Holderhek
      @Holderhek  4 года назад

      In pvp? Stam > Crit > Str > Agi > Spell Crit > Int

  • @v33ntrix
    @v33ntrix 4 года назад

    One interesting thing about this, its recorded on a private server. What patch is it on. does it still use the "infinite windfury proc" or does it use the 1.12 nerfed version of windfury.

    • @Holderhek
      @Holderhek  4 года назад +1

      1.12 server on training dummy with approximate raid debuffed armor levels.

    • @v33ntrix
      @v33ntrix 4 года назад

      @@Holderhek Love your conetent as a fellow Enhancement shaman you make me feel good. Thank you for your reply =)

  • @shizunne
    @shizunne 5 лет назад +4

    I know you probably have a guild, but on the off chance that you don't, we'd love to recruit you. We're an 18+ competent raiding guild in the EST time zone. We need 3 enhancement shamans for our raid, and so far have none because of all the misinformation about how well they perform in raids.

    • @Holderhek
      @Holderhek  5 лет назад +2

      Cows_n_Muffins I do already have a guild but I fully support your raid comp.
      How many people do you have so far? We’re looking to run two raids. If you’d like to come talk to us about a possible joint venture into Classic our disc is:
      www.discord.gg/XBhyUxc

    • @shizunne
      @shizunne 5 лет назад

      That invite has expired because I was asleep at the time. The raid comp we're going for is this, just append it to the classic wowhead website.
      raid-composition#0ggypshhFjthhFjthvFmtcddqscddxswyynswyyns

  • @redic3408
    @redic3408 4 года назад +1

    Lot of guides say 6/9% hit if your orc and apparently there's also a crit cap.. please make a video on this, trying to better my dps in raids and need some guidance

    • @Holderhek
      @Holderhek  4 года назад

      Crit cap is astronomical. It's like 52.7% or something.
      Hit cap is orc with axe is 6%, anything else it's 9%. When I made this video months ago I didn’t have the info we have now.

  • @Uttarayan
    @Uttarayan 4 года назад +1

    At what point did you switched from all agi enchants to all AP(force) enchants ? I m a bit confused watching this vid since i always thought PA was to priorise over crit, and you priorise AP in later videos too (mostly with force enchants for all). Can you give me an explanation please ? come on please, i m confused ! Thanks for the videos and defending our cause. (btw the way i made sure to get the fuckin eye is to gather all the fckin materials for sulfuras by myself, since you cant trust people respecting birthrights those days) heart-heart

    • @Holderhek
      @Holderhek  4 года назад

      I made that video before classic released and I've gotten better data as time passed, basically.

  • @I_Am_Veks
    @I_Am_Veks 4 года назад

    Does twisting actually make it so that we can't use any other abilities? Or is it not that bad? I hope it isn't that bad, because I think the only way I get to raid on my enhance is if I twist :(

    • @Holderhek
      @Holderhek  4 года назад

      It's not awful if you use rank 1 windfury but even then it eats your Mana pretty fast

    • @I_Am_Veks
      @I_Am_Veks 4 года назад

      @@Holderhek dang. Is that still an issue in TBC?

    • @Holderhek
      @Holderhek  4 года назад +1

      @@I_Am_Veks enhancement can still twist but they have literally no Mana problems

    • @I_Am_Veks
      @I_Am_Veks 4 года назад

      @@Holderhek so no reason not to do it at that point then? Sounds good to me! :P

    • @I_Am_Veks
      @I_Am_Veks 4 года назад

      @@Holderhek or is it still more personal dps to not twist in tbc?

  • @Lars_lml
    @Lars_lml 5 лет назад +3

    21/30 is better after phase 2, but you have to switch to sp gear which is a pain. Great vid for AP Enh though!
    Liked and subbed

  • @make1722
    @make1722 4 года назад +1

    GJ.

  • @NoZignature
    @NoZignature 4 года назад

    How is farming gold for enha shaman?

    • @Holderhek
      @Holderhek  4 года назад

      Definitely not the best but you can utilize farsight to your advantage with mining, herbing and fishing very well.

  • @LovanRoyen
    @LovanRoyen 5 лет назад +1

    Yo Holder, what about the windfury vs GOA totem? I assume windfury brings alot more to the raid, or are you just straight up ignoring that and going for your own damage only?

    • @Holderhek
      @Holderhek  5 лет назад

      Aapje I’ll definitely be dropping WF in raid. This was just to show max potential solo DPS self buffed. In a raid situation you have other class buffs to make up for not using GOA or totem twisting it in.

  • @FedbergRoland
    @FedbergRoland 4 года назад

    Are you sure you didn't compare overall MC DPS to you standing on a dummy hitting it like a raid boss? On top of that, did you make sure to not include obvious tank DPS rankins, such as Warrior tanks, which is going to further pull down the average DPS?

    • @Holderhek
      @Holderhek  4 года назад

      FedbergRoland initial DPS numbers are the average of the top 30 parses from each class, in each raid, without the use of world buffs. None of these parses are from tanks.

    • @FedbergRoland
      @FedbergRoland 4 года назад

      @@Holderhek Thanks. But are the parses from the entire MC or from specific bosses only? If from bosses, which ones? The number seem VERY low, which is why I suspect they're from an entier MC run, and not from individual bosses.

    • @Holderhek
      @Holderhek  4 года назад

      FedbergRoland This is what your dps looks like if you don’t use world buffs. I tested it against parses on the same dummy using different classes and they parsed similar to the chart data.

  • @zinofwin
    @zinofwin 5 лет назад +1

    Cool video. Are you gonna be a tauren or do some min-max on races with orc or troll?

    • @Holderhek
      @Holderhek  5 лет назад +2

      zinofwin I want to play a Tauren. I may end up playing an orc. It’s a toss up right now between feels and reals.

    • @zinofwin
      @zinofwin 5 лет назад +1

      @@Holderhek Tough choice indeed :/

  • @immunglobuling8777
    @immunglobuling8777 5 лет назад +1

    Can you show us your rotation pls?

    • @Holderhek
      @Holderhek  5 лет назад +1

      Immunglobulin G made a whole video about it . Check my other uploads. 🤝

  • @kirgan1000
    @kirgan1000 5 лет назад +2

    Intresting that a enhancement Shaman can keep ut, wounder what more "conventional wisdom" what will be broken in classic....

    • @Holderhek
      @Holderhek  5 лет назад +2

      It's a 15 year old game. Now is the time to try new stuff imo.

    • @Mezer_PoE
      @Mezer_PoE 4 года назад

      already got DW Fury tanks from the private servers.

  • @wazamasa
    @wazamasa 5 лет назад +2

    Nice vid! UPDATED! 6% HIT Phase 6 and UPDATED! 9% HIT Phase 6 links doesn't work.

    • @Holderhek
      @Holderhek  5 лет назад

      wad uup thanks dude I’ll fix that today

  • @TheGargalon
    @TheGargalon 4 года назад

    how do you trick your guild to give you eye of rag?

    • @JamesLee-xk6dk
      @JamesLee-xk6dk 4 года назад

      I just asked for mine.

    • @Holderhek
      @Holderhek  4 года назад +1

      who else are they gonna give it to?

  • @kade2748
    @kade2748 4 года назад

    Now do a video like this for Shadow Priest.

  • @patrickoryan3125
    @patrickoryan3125 4 года назад +1

    Bruh i told my guild about my "ass slot" after they were shit talking storm strike and i got g kicked :(

    • @Holderhek
      @Holderhek  4 года назад +1

      Sounds like a great opportunity to find a better guild.

  • @Kingmaster64
    @Kingmaster64 4 года назад +1

    can demonic runes be farmed solo?

    • @Holderhek
      @Holderhek  4 года назад

      Yup. Non-elite demons in felwood.

    • @Holderhek
      @Holderhek  4 года назад

      Yup. Non-elite demons in felwood.

    • @Kingmaster64
      @Kingmaster64 4 года назад

      @@Holderhek went arsenal today for the weapon and it was pain in the ass running around with only mana for 1 or 2 totems all the time while the warriors went in tanking as arms and swimming in rage

    • @Holderhek
      @Holderhek  4 года назад

      Yeah you aren't gonna keep up with the AOE cleave of a warrior. It's just not gonna happen. Single target you'll do the same or more than warriors/rogues tho. Live for those single target moments, buff their cleave in the meantime.

  • @Caperfin
    @Caperfin 5 лет назад +5

    hi @Holderhek WoW I'd luv to talk with you about shaman dps, let me know if you are available.

    • @Holderhek
      @Holderhek  5 лет назад +3

      Absolutely my dude. Join my discord discord.gg/ZBhyUxc

  • @stevebrule3526
    @stevebrule3526 4 года назад

    isn't 9% the hit cap rather than 8%?

    • @Holderhek
      @Holderhek  4 года назад

      Yep I corrected that in the follow up video.

    • @stevebrule3526
      @stevebrule3526 4 года назад

      Holderhek true, great videos I main enh

  • @sickduck3268
    @sickduck3268 4 года назад

    i do not agree with flask of the titans i would get a supreme power or a wisdom

    • @Holderhek
      @Holderhek  4 года назад

      Yeah distilled wisdom is gonna be the play in AQ and beyond

  • @Jstandshere
    @Jstandshere 4 года назад +4

    Just wanted to say, I was just about to watch yet another 'advanced' shaman guide. Less than 5 minutes in I'm told that our jobs as enhancement is to apply the weapon debuffs. That 15% magic damage one............as soon as I saw that I clicked off the vid. Anything after that would literally not matter since they obviously weren't taking the spec seriously as a viable dps. It would appear that we (the ones watching this 'actual' guide), are going to have a lot of fun shocking people who can't think beyond a narrative fed to them by the very people they look to for guidance. I can't wait. I didn't raid in Vanilla, just got to lvl 48 when BC dropped, and haven't played psers...so I have no preconceived notions about what I can and can't do. I plan on raising some eyebrows and turning heads. That means I'm not listening to someone tell me to use a shit weapon and prop up the trash ass warrior whose on the top of recount anyway. Fuck that

    • @Holderhek
      @Holderhek  4 года назад +2

      That's exactly how I feel man. These kids have no scope of reality and have never played without every buff in the game stacked ontop of every debuff in the game skewing everything. Enhance can compete and do well if played to a high level. We will show them this in Classic.

  • @gerrieherwijnen1088
    @gerrieherwijnen1088 4 года назад

    But orcs Whit axe need 6% right??

    • @Holderhek
      @Holderhek  4 года назад

      Orc using an axe is 6% yep

    • @gerrieherwijnen1088
      @gerrieherwijnen1088 4 года назад

      @@Holderhek and whats that addon mate that Scrolls wf hit and crits hit

    • @Holderhek
      @Holderhek  4 года назад

      @@gerrieherwijnen1088 I use miks scrolling battle text in classic. Honestly can't remember what I was using in this video 10 months ago is too long for my addled brain.

    • @gerrieherwijnen1088
      @gerrieherwijnen1088 4 года назад +1

      @@Holderhek thnx bro im enh elemental now davastation ,🔥

  • @stephenbunai3439
    @stephenbunai3439 4 года назад

    Hell yea fucking chadhance shaman

  • @secondsleft8924
    @secondsleft8924 5 лет назад +3

    orc only needs 3% hit with axe spec. :)

    • @secondsleft8924
      @secondsleft8924 5 лет назад +1

      also since glancing blows cannot crit so you theoretically need more than 33% to have 100% uptime on flurry. its something like 51% crit buffed which is obtainable around aq40.

    • @secondsleft8924
      @secondsleft8924 5 лет назад +2

      also also, training dummies do not have the same stats as a 63 raid boss. resistances and armor values are not the same. That being said, as long as you baseline other classes on the same dummy then you can compare without issue.

    • @Holderhek
      @Holderhek  5 лет назад +3

      Joe Reichel thanks for all the input and info!
      I did have other classes, specifically warriors and rogues test on these dummies. They got similar results to the raid parses so I was happy to post the numbers.

  • @ChristianTaylor3
    @ChristianTaylor3 4 года назад +4

    Great guide to prove the elitists, conformists, and whoever else thinks shamans fit one role wrong

  • @joeyp978
    @joeyp978 4 года назад

    I just dont believe how you are pretty much saying with raid buffs enhance shamans are top dps... I have a full bis shaman with hand of rag in my guild. I have to scroll down to see him on the meter....

    • @Holderhek
      @Holderhek  4 года назад

      Bruh I made this video using target dummies and a test server eight months ago. Other classes, like warriors and rogues just scale better with world buffs. Enhance can still parse around 90th-95th percentile fury though and If your Shaman is having trouble dpsing you should send him to my channel.

  • @WarsunGames
    @WarsunGames 4 года назад

    I want to point out.If you have no intellect on your gear. You are doing it wrong. Also If you need to have Spirit to recover health and Mana quickly. By the way. The reason you do not take Storm Strike is. That nature damage debuff anyone can use. So you end up wasting it an allowing someone else to get a powerful hit.

    • @Holderhek
      @Holderhek  4 года назад

      Stormstrike is another chance to proc windfury, so you would still take it. The nature debuff is not the reason at all.

  • @danizrp5155
    @danizrp5155 4 года назад

    Are u green jesus?

    • @Holderhek
      @Holderhek  4 года назад

      Dani Zrp orc shaman so yea

  • @bikespj22
    @bikespj22 3 года назад

    I love all these hype videos for meme specs before classic came out. Turns out everyone was right, not like all the data that enhance was garbo wasn't already out or anything

    • @Holderhek
      @Holderhek  3 года назад

      Enhance is the best spec in the game stay salty

  • @MethosChannel
    @MethosChannel 4 года назад

    Yeah, right now our horde warriors are pulling 1200 dps+ on 70% of MC bosses.

    • @Holderhek
      @Holderhek  4 года назад

      not on single target

    • @MethosChannel
      @MethosChannel 4 года назад +1

      @@Holderhek classic.warcraftlogs.com/character/id/40635367?mode=detailed&zone=1000#metric=dps #1 first warrior
      classic.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/1000#class=Warrior&spec=Fury
      # Rest of the warriors
      Look at warcraftlogs mate, takes u less then 5 seconds.

    • @MethosChannel
      @MethosChannel 4 года назад

      @@Holderhek Ragnaros a fight melees need to run in and out and cant dps for maybe 1/3 of the fight is at 800 dps.

    • @Holderhek
      @Holderhek  4 года назад

      Methos the dps I list in these videos are minus world buffs

    • @MethosChannel
      @MethosChannel 4 года назад

      @@Holderhek Oh, so people in ur list dont use anything at all? They just slack on consums and buffs? Got it.

  • @mards2479
    @mards2479 4 года назад

    You’ve GITTEN?

  • @ki1631
    @ki1631 4 года назад

    lol one of three dude there have been more then 20mill people playing you really think there were like only 3 xDDD lmao

  • @sulos4646
    @sulos4646 4 года назад

    My Guild gave it to a warrier ;;(

    • @Holderhek
      @Holderhek  4 года назад

      Rip

    • @TheRealBlackfyre
      @TheRealBlackfyre 4 года назад +1

      As did mine. 3x now...
      Might be looking to switch guilds. I'm also on Fairbanks.

    • @sulos4646
      @sulos4646 4 года назад +1

      @@TheRealBlackfyreThey said, the next will be mine, we will see.

    • @sulos4646
      @sulos4646 4 года назад +1

      I can't believe it, i got it!!

    • @TheRealBlackfyre
      @TheRealBlackfyre 4 года назад

      @@sulos4646 gratz

  • @josephdemyanovich2772
    @josephdemyanovich2772 5 лет назад

    You actually were playing a Paladin when you started because you and I quote "want to solo play the game".
    Don't lie to these people.

    • @Holderhek
      @Holderhek  5 лет назад

      I mean you're not wrong but I only played that paladin for like a week.

    • @josephdemyanovich2772
      @josephdemyanovich2772 5 лет назад +1

      @@Holderhek YOU CAN THANK ME FOR TELLING YOU ABOUT SHAMAN AND THE HORDE

    • @Holderhek
      @Holderhek  5 лет назад +1

      The world thanks you.

  • @Foscko
    @Foscko 4 года назад +1

    "One f three people on the planet." Bullshit, alot of people did.

  • @ThorDog81
    @ThorDog81 4 года назад

    you can take stormstrike but if you are in a guild that is any good or watching debuffs and you use it gg on not getting in raids again.

  • @williamcricket7931
    @williamcricket7931 4 года назад

    This video isn't phone friendly ;(

    • @Holderhek
      @Holderhek  4 года назад

      Sorry my guy. Gotta watch it on the PC.

  • @WarsunGames
    @WarsunGames 4 года назад

    That is a very different spec from normal. Good thing you don't PvP or Tank like that. Or you will get screamed.

    • @Holderhek
      @Holderhek  4 года назад +1

      Yeah it's a pve dps build.

  • @dulkansilberaxt
    @dulkansilberaxt 5 лет назад

    A bit of criticism:
    First problem: You only go for 8% hit, the hit cap in classic is 9%.
    I do like, that you fight for enhancement, way to go. But honestly, the numbers you pull are bogus. All you get out of such a video is people being excited for nehancement and then disappointed, when they don't even pull half the dps you show here. Buffing offspecs up with bad parses is jsut as bad as trying to put offspecs with bad parses.
    Your dmg parses are way over the top on both crits and windfury procs. If I'd look at any of your parses, I'd rate it extremely lucky. If this was truly the average parse, your server must be completely out of whack. Which I think is likely, because you never ever got dodged! Bosses have 6.5% dodge chance, you should have several dodges each parse. The highest dps of an enhancement shaman recorded on pservers was 450dps fully buffed in naxx. you claim to do this much dps unbuffed in prebis (and completely blow every other class out of the water with that). Don't you think somebody would have noticed over the many years of pservers how good enhance is, if your numbers were the norm?
    In your phase 1 parse you have an expected critchance vs bosses of 19% (actually 17%, but pservers are missing 1.8% crit suppression), your parse has 30%. Windfury wise, I assume in your favor and give 100% flurry uptime. You should have gotten 10 procs and got 12. Keep in mind, that 100% flurry uptime is very unlikely with this low critchance.
    Your phase 3 is very egregious. Crit chance is 27%, you had 39% crits. You should have gotten 9-10 windfury procs and got 16-17. This combined with no dodges makes your "average dps" easily more than twice as high as you would have realistically gotten.
    Your bis test. Oh dear. Crit is actually reasonable. 30% is expected and you only had 26%. But the windfury procs, oh my. 87 auto attacks in 2min with MoM? You are expected to get 9 windfury procs at 100% flurry uptime, that's 60 autoattacks in 2min. 87 means, you got an additional 18.5 windfury procs, i.e. TRIPLE the number of windfury procs you sohuld have gotten (27-28 out of 41 autoattacks + 6 stormstrikes).
    And your buffed test. Same deal. 43% crit fully world buffed with the gear is reasonable, but 98 autoattacks in 2:30 is almost as massive a windfury procrate as before.

    • @Holderhek
      @Holderhek  5 лет назад +1

      dulkansilberaxt I addressed some of the weapon-speed/hit issues you brought up in my second video, there actually is a weapon speed bug that I fixed later on after finding it out.
      As per crits and crit suppression you may be right on that, I have no way to adjust my crit down given new bluepost info however I’m also not player crit buffed (beyond my grace of air which gives me another 4%), player ap buffed, haste buffed or any of the sort. The target dummy is also not affected by any debuff beyond sunders.
      As per 450 dps in Naxx being the "world record" parse...I was pulling 700+ back in vanilla retail in gear that was not nearly as good as my BiS test.
      This damage is entirely attainable, and even beyond this damage with world buffs etc.
      I stand by it and I will replicate it on classic.

    • @Holderhek
      @Holderhek  5 лет назад

      I retested speced out of flurry for better accuracy.
      imgur.com/gallery/4mZpvBX

    • @davidpopovics2347
      @davidpopovics2347 4 года назад

      @@Holderhek Can you respond to his comment on dodges? What server is this being tested on? The only way you can get an apples to apples comparison is to run parses for the specs you are comparing with as well. Just comparing your parses to private server stats of other specs is silly. I know for a fact there were very serious tryhard enh raiders on Elysium/LH and they didn't pull off anything close to the numbers you are touting.

    • @Holderhek
      @Holderhek  4 года назад

      Ran parses on the other classes and they got data very similar to that in my spreadsheets. Dodge would lower overall DPS by 6.5%.

  • @gigglesthecat7216
    @gigglesthecat7216 4 года назад

    stormstrike fine for dungeons and pvp but why you wasting a debuff slot on storm strike in raids? that just being selfish to boost your own dmg only at the sacrifice of over-all raid dmg. like this build is insanely selfish only use it in raids if you pugging and don't plan to raid with that group again also unless you are the gm or friends with the gm good luck being given sulfuras. if you want to be in raids all the time go with a hybrid enhance/resto build focusing on applying either annihilator or nightfall debuff while totem twisting. with a supporter setup your own dps aint going to be chart topper but the amount of dps you adding to the entire raid is much higher than having a high dps on the meters. (you literally sacrificing 2-3 extra players worth of dps in a raid to not even beat out a warrior's dps)
    p.s. lol tauren shaman? if you supposedly about min maxing you should be troll or orc their racial much better for adding dps as well as having higher base strength and int over tauren

    • @tdot8280
      @tdot8280 4 года назад

      sounds like mimi :P Why Enhancers should if they can pull the same dps as rogues?

  • @shiftystab5072
    @shiftystab5072 5 лет назад

    Ill ShOw eVeRyoNe mUh SuPerIoR DamAGE you will be clapped in dmg muh friend or not even inv to a raid unless your rolling with GOF XD

  • @propatzis
    @propatzis 5 лет назад

    this spec is glancing.exe which is solved if u jst go spell dmg int for twisting and elemental fury brother, rely on AP of world buffs and tell ur guild u are going to off heal using annihilator and nightfall. no reason to meme steal painweaver cape and other rogue warr loot. show selflessness and guild effort. never hold ur melee guildies back cause u wanna meme unless u wanna get bad reputation and end up in a trash PTR server hitting a dummy until aq. At least good for u going for titans instead of mana flask

  • @GROWL211
    @GROWL211 3 года назад +1

    my abandoned lvl 60 pre-raid gear fury warrior does around 200 dps on lvl 50-54 on mobs in burning steppes (with +8% hit). alongside with standard parries and dodges, there are tons of misses and little to none rage being generated (thats why i freaked out and abandoned my warr -- in a real raid situation dps becomes even worse hence targets levels are much higher).
    my lvl 54 stormstrike-nature guidance shaman does around 220-250 dps without any totems (depending on wf procs), on these same mobs that are same level as the character.
    what kind of magic makes fury warriors best dps' in late game content is beyond my comprehension
    also, leveling shaman feels like a breeze after playing as warrior