SHAMAN In CLASSIC WoW: Was It Any Good Though?
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
- Part 6/9 looking at how Shaman were in Vanilla.
But ....Was It Any Good Though?
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As a few people have pointed out there is a Zeppelin direct from Orgrimmar to Undercity. Don't run through STV at level 20 lol. (kinda forgot this when making vid, woops)
Hello dude thanks for the video it was helpfull. But I need to ask you a question because I am a new player at this game and I am thinking to make an enhancement shaman to vanilla classic. So my question is if its worthy to make enhancement shaman or elemental shaman???
Spirit doesn't give Shamans mana regen. Hence the MP5 requirement. - The Earthfury 8 set is the major one. Turns your big heal into a chain heal.
bruv, you just made me question my wow experience real bad
then i scrolled down to see if adressed aaaand KEK :D
@@Texas_Sel Start off with enhance. Leveling takes a while. You can try ele later. For level 60 ele is better overall
The whole point of Vanilla was the journey though!!! lol
I like to believe there's at least one person who ran through STV to get to Brill because of this video.
lol
That'd been me if I didn't already known better :)
Also me, accidentally
How did you get to the badlands the first time? I went down from arathi but it's also possible to go up through stv and burning steppes.
@@hansolowe19 gnomeregone lmao
Whoever went this way is just mental 😅
I remember rolling a shaman in vanilla.
Did no research, and could not find the hidden path to the first class quest in the Valley of trials.
So i was a shaman without totems until level 30 i think... Good times :)
oh man haha thats playing the game on maximum difficulty
The beauty of classic
I didn’t know I had stealth as a rogue as it showed up on its own action bar by default. I went through the game till lvl 30 ish until I discovered I had stealth without vanish
@@MrSinaster haha thats glorious dude! Alot of fun the first time in an unknown game!
Didn‘t know I have to buy new spells. So I was a mage with lvl 20 and lvl 1 spells. I had a hard fight with every mob till death.
I think I am somehow addicted to classic WoW videos. There already are so many out there, but I still devour every one I can find lol.
Glad I stumbled upon your channel so early.
Know the feeling!
Haha same here bro glad i found these videos to keep the hype up
i don't need it i don't need it.... Iiiiii neeeeeeeeed it!!!! :D
26 more days
Boys I'm so excited!
I remember back in the day one Shaman gleefully comparing Frost Shock in PvP to shoving toddlers off of their bicycles.
My favorite classic memory from back in the day was running a group of clothies through SFK as a level appropriate shaman because I, "had a shield". It went shockingly well.
“Shockingly” 😂
This series is actually exactly what I needed. I only ever played a rogue in classic so I have no idea how any of the others play.
Thanks!
loved how you touched on tanking shamans was nice to see
Elemental in PvP is pretty understated here. They're incredible in battlegrounds when played by someone who knows when to heal, when to dps and when to purge, interrupt or kite.
I do agree they are good, I thought I was pretty positive on them - maybe could have made some better points. Cheers
nothing better for a raid when the aoe during the boss fight gets crazy, and you bomb chain heal and drop mana tide to give yourself and all the healers in your subgroup more mana
I'm a Tauren Shaman, still trying to get to level 60, almost there.
Every spec?
Gj
Did you get there, yet?
Shaman was my first toon! That ad campaign from back in the day with William Shatner talking about his Tauren Shaman convinced me to take the plunge.
Just started a shaman on classic vanilla wow with my brother(he is a warrior). I was playing it wrong(used the shock spell like wrath on a druid) and hated it... now thanks to your video Shaman might just be my favorite!
tanking outside raids was really messed up... I saw rogues tanking dungeons at the level by taking fights slowly and everyone coordinating dmg to properly burst down targets in sequence...
@@morbidgull8922 What do you mean? I think this is kind of neat. Niche picks for certain roles in the trinity are always welcome, the trinity is boring tbh.
That was always my MO in original vanilla, even with a proper tank. Each target in a pull got a symbol for burst prioritization.
I remember useing low-level earth shock just for interrupts and mana.
I used it to tank. Yeas, you could tank the early dungeons as a shaman.
how about you just take the zep from orgrimmar to undercity then run to silverpine lmao
I was totally baffled by his chosen path to Silverpine.
@@Evirthewarrior yeah I was caught off guard haha you can tell he hasn't played classic
Idk if you see the pinned comment but kay, you are smart :)
That's really what Horde should have to do rather than getting a zepplin direct from org to undercity. Always seemed strange to me that they get that while alliance have to run through the looooooooooooooooooong wetlands zone to get the menthil/IF flightpoint
RaidsEpicly I think travel is set up way better for the Horde in Classic.
Isn't there a Zeppelin from Orgrimmar to Undercity for an easier route for water totem quest? Perhaps I am confusing a later add, but I thought it was there in Vanilla.
Yep you are right lol. I rememberd this fact a bit too late. Good memory! Also i was kind of thinking just going from the quest location. There is also a Zeppelin from Undercity AND Orgrimmar to Grom grol in STV, so doing what I said actually doesnt make much sense. Woops
@@WillEmmo yeah i was like why in the world would i run through stv at lvl 20 when i can fly to org and take the zep to uc
@@lilvernler17 LOL yeah. mb. Brain error
ye but still ... once you get done there you have to go back to the barrens then go to silverpine (again) then go to ashenvale then back ... so its kinda anoying
When we couldnt find a tank I used to tank with shaman before level 40 using frost shock. It works until Warriors/pally's start using plate.
Was good at lower levels for sure had more and more problems the deeper you got into content
In vanilla, Earth Shock generated high threat not frost shock...
@@johnokeefe2471 Yea that one, I haven't done it since burning crusade. I think I remember that and stoneclaw totem being about the only thing shamans had going for them besides the parry and dodge in the skill trees.
@@lustgunther I knew I wasn't crazy, I remember them always being slowed. I didn't play Shaman in classic. I played in late 2005 and just focused on a rogue.
I've been playing a shaman since the first day of vanilla. I love the class even if its not the best at anything. I liked doing pvp with it in the old days cause I always had the right spell for the situation, just had to be able to use everything at your disposal with quick reactions and keybind. I remember fighting 2v1, using earthbind totem and frost shock, then jumping down a small cliff, into the water, then walk on water to get some heals and long range dps, etc. A shaman could be very very good in pvp or very bad, skills was everything.
"not the best at anything"
Shaman has the absolute highest burst damage in the game (if you don't count reckoning paladin which is basically cheating). A 3.5 second LB + CL + shock combo will annihilate any hp bar.
just gona say that poison cleansing totem is good for leveling in a pvp server.
I think you may have under stated the effectiveness of Ele Shammy in PvP. Chain lightning crits with insta cast could wreck teams and clear casting procs even more so. I recall all too well the trepidation everyone would have when faced with a lightning wielding shammy in BG's. I think your guides are great and I have watched most of them I just feel this one didn't do the Ele/resto shammy real justice. As an alliance player we would definitely be concerned with a good shammy sporting this build!
Going rogue when classic releases , main reasons is I want to join the Defias brotherhood. Also want to become a peace bloom dealer.....
2 as good a reason as any!
So many spells...I became totally dependent on a mod called Shockolate in TBC, that auto arranged the totems in four movable rings so I could get my bars back.
nice! hadnt heard about that
Shaman be like *YOU LIKE SPELLS?*
12:01
lol you juked me hard here haha :D
I was like why is my lightning bolt going over there
My first character was a Tauren Shaman named Xerxxes. My best memory with him was beating a Paladin who wanted to duel me while I was questing in 1k. Such a great class.
There are no paladin on horde in classic.....
Yes, off-tanking was a thing in the original game design but never truly realized. (Rogues were also able to equip bucklers) Making shammies effective off tanks would have given horde a nice parallel to alliances extra tanking class. In the end, I would guess it was too hard to implement meaningful mechanics since shamans were mail wearers and raids had enough slots to just take more warrior tanks.
Enhance tanking didnt just have earth shock for threat, rockbiter weapon used to provide high threat as well. Drop a stoneskin totem, and you can tank up to around ZF.
You can tank any 5 man, with great ease. Used to run brd with a Shaman guildie who made it look effortless
I tanked all dungeons and had about 33% dodge, 5% parry, 10% block, 5k armor and 5k hp unbuffed. I found myself surviving ubrs a lot easier than the warriors who were supposed to be the MT. I remember a really bad pull once and the warrior went down. I survived 5 mobs beating on me simply because they couldn't hit me lol I was never given the chance to tank raids, however :( They never let me roll on tank gear either in raids and instead opted to disenchant it rather than let me have it... I was simply a novelty to have in the guild and was forced to heal. I ended up quitting during AQ because of how boring and repetitive healing is as a shaman. Put totems down and spam chain heal pretty much sums it up. This is why if I ever decide to play classic wow, even casually, I won't be a paladin, druid, or shaman... Too much disappointment and people shitting on you for not wanting you to just be a healer...
He mentioned rockbiter.
@@unluckyraven101 As a paladin in Vanilla WoW, this was my experience 100%. I sincerely hope that, as they continue this Classic project, going forward they keep raids smaller so that utility classes can shine and so that different class compositions tackle problems differently. By extension, they need to augment the capabilities of certain classes so that they can fulfill dungeon/raid roles that the classes were actually intended to do initially (even if they have to do it differently). In addition to healing, druids and shamans should be able to either tank or dps (Blizzard can choose one). Paladins should be able to tank. Maybe the Warlock should be able to tank too with the special demonology spec.
With that said, no class should be able to do all 3 roles well, and classes that fulfill multiple roles should shine in more niche situations. By and large, I think an emphasis on smaller dungeons (raiding as 10-20 men instead of 40) lets these alternate builds shine more and be more viable than they are in 40 man raids. I like that skill and class matter more in Vanilla than in the current game, and I hope they keep that in mind as they potentially explore future content for WoW Classic players.
@@unluckyraven101 if you had 5k health then you were massively over geared or world buffed.
Shaman tanking in blues, without an overgeared group capable of handling the damage/off tanking the loose mobs, I will believe when I see.
My first and main character was an enhance shaman that I always enjoyed playing. I still remember all the cries of "NERF SHAMAN!" from alliance players on the forums. There were a few instances where I was able to off-tank, but it was rare. One that I would off-tank many times was Cho'Rush in Dire Mual when we would fight King Gordok.
Shaman in pvp is caster's nightmare, it's slightly weaker against rogue or warrior if caught by surprise( without any totem on the ground), if they had all the totem ready then the fight is basically one sided, unless the shaman mess up so bad. Played a shaman all the way to high warlord back in the days, it was so much fun in pvp.
One small correction: Lightning Shield is your highest Mana-To-Damage ratio spell. It's not "to a lesser extent". It's the big beefy boi dmg.
Not actually true
@@nexya26Yea actually true fam. I've leveled Shaman 1-60 3 times now. 2h weapon, searing totem and lightning shield - most consistent leveling experience.
Lightning shield is extremely underrated
@@tigeryumyums9407 that's not actually true
This is why im going herb/alch gonna be popping soooo many pots to make my ele a boss!
noob. In vanilla you need engineering beyond anything as shammy/druid/rogue
@@napukapu What makes you think he can't prepare a huge amount of potions and make a bunch of gold before then switching to engineering? Also, there is no need for name-calling. Let the guy be hyped up, let him have fun.
It's gonna be tough, but I wish you luck!
@@viktorlindqvist5308 People completely underestimate how painstaking leveling professions are in vanilla.
@@napukapu Painstaking, but not impossible. If he want to make it work he has to go the extra mile. Might be hard, but definitely do-able.
I miss when Shamans were useful and versatile. I am ready for you Classic WoW!
Do you remember when a Shaman could tank some fights in Enhancement Mode? I miss being my big tanky Tauren shaman and going: I'll tank this trash while we wait for our Warrior friend to come back.
Not that I minded becoming a dual wielding spell slinging DPS...but just...the fun of tanking and having everyone go: Man, this isn't fair all you can do!
Oh...the tears of Vanilla Paladins tasted like nectar and ambrosia!
@Soylent GoogleCuck i used to play human mage, thinking about rolling horde this time around. I think I'll decide at the character selection screen! 😀🤙
Dont wait to get water totem. Poison cleansing is your defense against those rogue ganks
Can't cast totems when youre stunlocked ;)
Any person who says mana totem isnt worth it doesnt know shams.. haha
@@robertnolan2204 The terrible mana regenerate shamans have even with manatotem.. is why enhancement specc is there for lvling.
Earth shield was such a nice spell add in tbc. I rerolled from alliance rogue and priests in vanilla to a shaman on horde and later a warrior as my main.
Yeah the elemental shields for each spec were pretty cool
I know this is a old video, but I just love how every single youtuber completely forgets how huge of a buff totems are for the group and just keeps saying "its not a top dps" over and over..... yeah if others increased dmg from their totems was counted as personal dps you could be damn sure they would be top. Just cause all of you haters are selfish doesnt mean its a bad spec....... I swear what is it with private server players in particular and their personal number epeen contest?
11:57 lol, that misstargeting tho :D
It suprised me lol
@@WillEmmo Taking miss chance to a whole new level
I was an elemental shaman in vanilla, and I always topped dmg charts over mages. Clearcasting was amazing, made you able to cast free chain lightings.
Man I can’t decide between shaman and priest. My main was a Tauren warrior in vanilla and I’m leaning towards shaman for those Tauren thunder bluff/ nostalgia vibes.
Savage Carnivore as for me i chosen priest over shaman in the end. Shamans hav absolutely no crowd control aside earthbind and frost shock, while priests have fear. Also i though shamans will be more mobile duo to ghost wolf, but actually ghost wolf is worth only if you spec enh, and shamans have no instant heals like renew and shield like priests, so you have to always stop for a cast if you want to heal
If we're making a pros and cons list, I'll do the other side (I was a priest in vanilla): Priests have no ability to melee, no ability to tank. Their toolbox is a little smaller (compared to 80 different totems). No self-rez, no movespeed increase in any spec, fear is unreliable as CC and can result in pulling additional mobs. A priest can't heal 3 targets in a different group at the same time. Less armor and no shield make them easier to pick off by rogues/warriors/hunters in PvP. Shadow has roughly the same mana issues as elemental.
If your goal is to heal, both are solid .Priests are "the best healers" but only if you care about a healing meter. Priests are great at giving you hit points and shields... and that's it. Shamans provide a massive amount of utility between mana tide, windfury, poison removal, and the fact that chain heal is a smart heal. Both are very necessary and sought after in 5s and raids, so really you can't go wrong.
Loved when shamans and paladins were not shared among Alliance and Horde. It made it a clear difference to play one of the fractions. Blessing of freedom made Alliance favorits in WSG, but that WF´totem and purge sure made horde able to own in other PVP circumstances.
Agree! Really liked both faction had a unique class
Yes, this! They removed all the differences and restrictions and only succeeded in making the game bland. Although i did play a draenei Shaman for all of TBC, so maybe I'm a hypocrite. It got worse when all the restrictions got removed later though. Didn't like any of it then, don't like it now. The game was well designed and didn't need any of this nonsense. Also, so much fun playing a mage, so DPS is the only thing you're there for, and paladins do much better damage than you while being able to tank and heal and being unkillable. This was like six straight months of Wrath before Blizz finally deigned to buff mages a little. And they still weren't better than paladins. Just not worse. This was about the point where I lost all confidence in the developers. Specialist DPS class, yo! No, little Johnny is whining about his paladin so we have to make it OP for him. OK then, I'll just unsubscribe over here.
As a resto shaman who cleared naxx pre TBC, I can say restoration shamans were by far the best healers. No other class could come close to the amount of HPS levels a good resto shaman could. There were barely any good ones tho.
Nice!
There will be exceptions to everything. But if there are few good ones on average, that's what matters.
The quest for the helmet can definitely be completed before 60. I got mine at level 58 and I was so incredibly proud that I had an epic before 60 that I kept running around in Orgirmmar for ages just to show the helmet off
classic vanilla
Nice! Think I found it at 60 from WoW databases, but thats good to know cheers
I enhance tanked wailing caverns but that's probably the best tanking ill do as a shaman haha our warrior got too drunk and had to hearth out haha
I deleted my water totem quest by accident, and had no idea where to continue the quest. (In 2005)
So at level 45 ish people got mad at me because i "wouldn't" use my water totem 😅
After some time i wrote a ticket. A GM teleported me to southern barrens in the hills, where i could pick up the quest and continue. I was 13 years old back then.. all the memories ❤️
I remember leveling up through 40 something as tank shaman. Any time I bring up shaman tanks in vanilla, people tell me that I'm misremembering and they literally couldn't do it.
I'm not saying it was good, but I do wish that it was something that I could still do in current wow.
Either way, I had a lot of fun watching your video, keep up the good work!
Thanks! I think it was possible at lower levels, at higher levels you needed to start using consumables and really choosing to play it, it was rough
I tanked UBRS on my shaman! So, don't fret! They existed! Plan to do it again in the near future!
You have done a very good summary of the classes in these videos mate. These videos helped me decied which class to main or alt! Thanks
Im sure this has already been addressed in the comments 100 times, but for the water totem quest, it has you go to ashenvale, hillsbrad, and silverpine, and each time you report to someone in the barrens. once on the last part in silverpine, there's a shortcut right behind the inn at the sepulcher that takes u right to the quest objective location; it takes like 20 seconds to get there. also like other people have addressed, you can take the zep from outside org to tirisfal glades. granted, there is a LOT of walking in this quest as you have to go to ashenvale and hillsbrad before you're really ready for those zones, but it's not as bad as this video makes it out to be with some false information.
love these videos, this was a pretty big hic-up tho XD keep doing great work
Great videos, thanks for the unique explanation and what a nice touch the fact that doesn't have any adds... Bravo!
In my guild we had a PvP shaman those could delete alliance so fast. When you looked at shaman's toolkit it was almost unfair how fast they could delete people 1v1 either as elemental or enhancement. Being able to nature's swiftness a chain lightning or a big heal let them clutch fights at the last moment. Earthshock was probably the most cancerous skill, a ranged interrupt on a 6 second cooldown along with purge spamming left enemy clothies standing around interrupted and super squishy. I was so happy our guild got him sulfuras so he could delete scrubs in BGs just like the classic Unbreakable PvP video. He inspired me to make my own shaman and discover the wonders of windfury, especially self casted on weapon which granted 2! extra hits with ridiculous bonus attack power. Such a really fun class to play especially if you were skilled.
Sounds awesome! Enhance could certainly pop people in one hit, was just getting in range that was often the problem.
Ele in pvp is great too, really puts out nasty damage
I always went with a enhancement to stormstrike and resto for the 75% avoid interrupt during casting for my heals. Lol. Killed a lot of players tank healing and baiting for the interrupt in pvp
I also remember being a hindered to my AQ40 guild being an Elemental lolol hella funny
If u go elemental when leveling, use more spells. Just keep track of 5sec break before mps kicks in. Wouldnt do that much auto-attack
Ztÿx I do not agree, auto attacks + wep procs, searing totem and flame shock still do good damage. If you got to pull 2 enemies example, yes kill one asap with burst, but mainly strat provided is true, as well as it will cut down costs on food and water in the long run
Justgo enha 2h and oneshit everything with windfury. Easy leveling! All you need is some obscene rng. :p
Elemental until you can get max rank flurry and a good 2h and then respec to enhancement at around 31 ish if you get a good axe and go sword and board. This is because youre still only using shocks and totems and the first 3 tiers of Elemental will help you level much faster while utilizing the exact same playstyle.
I think people forget about the frost shock madness in PvP.
It packs a punch and if it crits you are really gonna feel it with the 100% bonus crits ele gets. The spec is solid in pvp
TL;DR of this series:
Was it any good though?
Overall, *Y E S*
You can definitely tell which classes he favors, and which classes he is just trying to give lip service to
I always loved that Shamans (and Paladins) were exclusive to their faction. It made sense thematically and lore wise, and underlined the identity of the factions. It was also just such a charming curiosity of Classic.
Such a shame that they "fixed" that with TBC. One more old school fantasy design gone 😢. "Balance" should never take a backseat to fantasy. Players who want that can go play chess.
Back in the day I saw a video 20 shaman vs Zul'gurub.
Enhan shaman with PvP gear tanking, so shaman can do almost everything :)
Yo thats so cool! I love to see people making creative stuff work
Crit immunity from resilience.
PURGE FTW! That plus grounding and earth shock could really give you a good counter against casters, I loved them off with that
All these vids are great mate! Ty
Cheers!
Your channel definetly need more subs, great content, keep up the good work!
Thanks! Means a lot to hear that
The most efficient and fun way to level is: As a healer.
Not kidding. For one: You don't actually go oom, if you use your totems right. You barely have to drink.
But the secret OP weapon of a shaman comes twofold: Shields and Stoneskin.
You have alot of armour for a healer and Blocking / Stoneskin reduces the damage from fast attackers to next to null.
The Hinterlands are a good example. As a lvl 49 Shaman, you can kill 3-4 level 48-50 mobs at the same time with Stoneskin -> Manaspring -> Heal (Important! because of agro) -> Nova totem.
Heal / Attack with rockbiter and a descent meele weapon (Scarlet Monestary healing mace is a nice one which will get you through most of your leveling.) and put down a magma totem.
With 2 Shamans this technique gets absolutely bonkers, as you can kill 6-10 mobs easily. The combination of a good AOE ability that you do not have to cast, high amounts of armour, Flat damage reduction and "Oh shit buttons" in the form of Natures swiftness, slow totems, Manatide etc. make this one of the most enjoyable levelers that I have seen.
Because you don't just grind mobs like a mage. You finish quests rediculously fast!
Shaman was one of the best classes in Vanilla!
weird way of saying bc
I am just bingeing your videos at this point. Good content as always!
Thanks Alex!
@@WillEmmo You're welcome!
Everyone in the comments saying Shaman in PVP I'd a waste of time, obviously sucked at playing Sham. I was enhance sham PVP up to Warlord in classic and rolled almost everyone except for rogues and had probs with hunters at most. But I don't get where people are saying shamans aren't good? Maybe u don't know how to play a sham ?
I remember tanking dungeons as a shaman back in vanilla, but only at lower levels. It was a lot of fun
I always thought the shaman and druid were a little too close in class fantasy/flavor. Like theoretically the druid is more about life and the shaman is more about elements, but they’re both basically nature woowoo priests.
Love these series!
Melee group shamans didn't put points into mana tide and instead went all the way to improved wf totem. Since melee groups dont need mana regen.
True i did show a melee spec shaman in there too with variations for enhancing and weapon totems. Cheers
I love all your guides! Consistent and informative! LAV IT
Thanks!
Bad advice here. Rockbiter has been documented to do more DPS at all levels with all weapons. Flametongue is the lowest DPS across the board.
You should be more highly viewed. I'm pretty picky when it comes to WoW content creators and you're videos are pretty good. I binged them all while all work :)
Glad I could get you through the day!
slowly gaining subs! keep up the good videos
Cheers!
I've been looking forward to this.
Hope it lives up to your expectations!
@@WillEmmo For sure, easy sub =)
@@theshaman415
Thanks for these videos man. I'm torn between Warrior and Shaman. Both are pretty trash at solo content but shaman is a bit better I guess. I'm a solo player but I also like bringing important buffs like something like windfury. Also, elemental/resto hybrid looks absolutely disgusting in PvP. On the otherhand, I like playing a warrior because you feel like a total beast.
0:40 Thrall is a shaman that's wearing plate. This is the WoW Southpark episode all over again.
I did play a Shaman but not in vanilla, I loved the buffs we could offer sort felt like you "needed" a shaman in group if you could, since buff/totemicide they lost what made them special, I felt pretty much the same with Paladins. Think the changes ruined what made Warcraft what it was. Not played since Legion the Demonhunter was the last thing to make me stay, I sometimes wish I could turn the clock back.
Shaman in WOTLK is so much better than vanilla, it's not even close.
4:30 so at the time of filming this the zeppelin from Org to Uc wasn't yet inaugurated...
i was a resto tauren shammy for pve then elemental shammy for pvp always sticked to this class loved old wow
Is it even viable to switch specs for different activities in vanilla? doesn't it cost a ton
@@ShampooRs I think it was doable. I think it was something like 5 or 10 gold maybe. Which unless your switching every day wasn't the worst.
@@johnknox8871 Oh, thought it doubled or increased each time?
ShampooRS it does 1-5-10-25-50 golds
Feral/Tank druid + Tank-specced Enha shaman is a killer-combo for leveling,that's being slept on, you have two "tanks that can also heal,that deal decent damage" and you have totem buffs for the druid and all the shaman kit,AND the druid has innervate and rebirth for when the shaman runs out of mana or fucks up,plus you have stuns,slows and ranged abilities,you can kill 2 elites 3 lvls above you with that team,which is unheard of from any other duo combo
cries in enhancement
*laughs
@@dingding12321 TBC : Stops Laughing
WotLK : Whining "ENH too good".
@@dairallan I believe remembering that enhancement was a dangerous spec in MoP too?
at 5:25 i see how you as a tauren thought that the quest was hard to reach, since there is a zeppelin tower right next to orgrimmar that takes you outside of undercity, near the town of brill. There as a level 20 shaman it is easy to reach sepulcher from there :P
edit: oh, i see you had a comment about that
No adds what so ever on any of your videos! What part of RUclips is this?
the "do it for people" unsponsored part
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If YT becomes the same with no ways of avoiding it, I will ignore that too. Simple as. There is no scenario where anyone will ever successfully make me watch an ad. It can't be done. Besides it doesn't work on me anyway. I am much more likely to boycott a company if it somehow manages to make me watch one of their ads than I am to buy anything from them. I have no idea who buys stuff after watching commercials. I guess people are just stupid. But I'm not.
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I want to put this in here, talking about Shaman tanking. It was designed as an offtank, much like the other tanks. However, they failed to make its use. Shamans were superior magic tanks at the time (before Death knights came around) and had really good snap threat so they could pull add spawns on raid fights like nothing. The problem was they made druids who did this the same way, so you only brought a shammy tank IF you really needed a tank, and still had nobody else to provide totems. The totems were well worth it if all the dps slots in a raid are full otherwise.
most mobs in MC are nature immune which makes shamans in any dps spec completely useless there
I successfully tanked BRD a few times on my enhance shaman in Classic. It was much more trouble than a warrior or druid would have, but it was definitely doable.
Remember when people thought Thrall was a warrior
Lol who thought this anyway?
@@Onewayticket1000 probably, those who didn't play Warcraft rts
@Alandis Pepperidge Farms remembers.
Shaman tanking works up to about level 50ish. After that they just fall off so fast. 😓
Shame cause I would love to see a shaman tank! They should just do that in retail 😍
Started up classic and rolled shammy from the start this time. Originally rolled one right before lich king as I played mate throughout BC and had some moments of fun and utter frustration. It was the best choice I made and wished I tried it sooner lol
One of the best series on classic wow. Very helpful and thanks!
Thank you!
Ah yes, the good ol' lvl 60 shaman days. Tanking DM, healing in raids and going after clothies in AB with R13 equip and TuF. Kinda miss these days lol
Very well done videos, lots of good information, good work
Imagine playing enhancement when you could've just rolled warrior.
Right? Classic = elemental OP. BC = enhancement OP
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Cheers!
Great video dude ! Long live the shaman (even the tanky one :p)
I had to mention it. Also I was kinda curious myself. There are some people who have gone to insane lengths on private servers to make it work. Its impressive stuff
Thanks! I was curious about the tanking myself. There are people on private servers who have gone to insane lengths to make it work. It's impressive stuff.
My favorite class. In end game raiding I felt more useless, forced being healbot when I wanted to be a Elemental shaman. Pvp with Elemental shaman was truly my favorite class to play. The whole leveling experience felt way better than for example warrior.
If I play wow classic, and they release shaman(will they do it?) for alliance, I will for sure level one, and hope I end up in a guild that will allow me to spec with more freedom, like this:
classic.wowhead.com/talent-calc/shaman/550001550302131--50230041005
or if they want me to healbot, then I will be the best healbotman ever
classic.wowhead.com/talent-calc/shaman/-502003-552300510553151
Hi. Shaman will be horde only for sure in Classic. As for raiding, it really depends on your guild. I imagine there will be plenty of guilds that don't mind people playing what they prefer!
@Arska Vanhatalo mana is an issue for sure. Mana pots and Demonic runes necessary
@Arska Vanhatalo
Same as the moonkin mana issues.
Genuinely dont know why people keep saying enhance shaman should use nightfall, its honestly gotten so bad alot of enhance shamans are required to use nightfall even tho we are litterly the worst class to use it out of everyone that can...
The ex dev designing Shaman said on his stream they concidered 3 man outdoor content group content too, and this was where Shaman was suitable to tank decently. It was never intended for a Shaman to tank dungeons.
I love Kevin Jordan too, buuuuuuut check out Defcamp & Melderon's Advanced Shaman Tanking guide (posted 2 months ago). They've crunched the numbers, and it's impressive just what's possible. As WillE said, a ton of effort to still be worse than a warrior, but if your dream is to tank some 5s as a shaman, you can.
I had a shaman in my guild in vanilla that tanked 5 mans, even tanked a 45 minute dead Strat run
Would be cool if shamans had a tank spec in bfa enhancment as dps is kinda meh
And how much raid gear was he and his groupmates wearing to overgear the instance?
Any class could tank with enough gear. Shadow priest was a pretty good tank with shadow form damage reduction and vampiric embrace healing.
Not happening in blues.
Obviously had some raid gear, but they were tanking dungeons even before we started raiding, with just some dungeon epic's and the quest epic.
I had to use a Belkin N52+Razer Naga in order to utilize my Shaman perfectly. I would have to hold shift then click corresponding set sets of keys for spells/totems in raids just to keep up with everything. Ultimately this is how/why I got High Warlord on my OG server of Aggrimar and was in the top raiding guild in Vanilla/Foederati and Burning Crusade/Tren de Dolor. I love the Shaman and will be playing Dayel once again in WoW Classic when it launches. As I haven't played WoW since Mists I am in for a rude awakening as to how much I had to keep up with but I can't wait :)
You never take the mana bonus from the tree. Swapping to shield for survival is just too useful
Great guide mate!
Cheers!
No a single person in Gurubashi could beat me back in Vanilla ... 1st High WarLord on the server (Sleepy)
Like a boss
Were you enhancement spec ?
Yes, I used arcanite reaper for a long time.
Did people allow you into raids? Can’t decide between Enh shaman or rogue for classic. I want to be able to occasionally PVE too
Being a guild leader my spot for raid was always secured .. we were the first guild to complete MC down Kazak and such.