Hey all, before I get comments saying, “but you said there isn't a greatest arcade racer of all time”, let me clarify: Admittedly, I wanted a catchy title for this video, and this was the best one I could come up with. I still stand by what I said in my fanboy video as there are too many different styles and variety for a ‘greatest arcade racer of all time’. Burnout Revenge is certainly my favorite though, and I really hope you all enjoy the video!
“I WAS JUST WONDERING IF YOU WANTED TO HANG OUT WITH ME AND SMOKE WEED AND FILL OUR BELLIES WITH DIET SODA AND PLAY BURNOUT REVENGE FOR THE PS2” - Landlord, Smiling Friends
Whenever I see the spectacular-looking cars of Burnout 3 and Revenge, it makes me miss when older games had entirely fictional car designs, like Split/Second and Motorstorm. Using 1:1 replicas of real-life cars but debadging them does not count. We gotta have more of original designs in arcade racing games again.
My biggest issue with Burnout Revenge is the lack of a single event mode. It makes trying to find a specific event type on a specific track a real pain. Also since the cars aren't broken up into classes like in Burnout 3, it means once you beat the game you are basically stuck only using the top-tier vehicles (Burnout Paradise had the same problem). Burnout Revenge is still an amazing game, but it has a lot of small things I don't like that keeps it from being my favorite.
There is also that insane difficulty spike at the end of the career that makes the experience just painful, combined with the downgrade of the sound design and takedown cams from 3 and the overall jankiness of the game, i personally would consider it better than 3 if it wasn't for all those little things that just make the game less enjoyable
soundtrack i find is something seriously underrated in games these days and people don't critique it much except fans of the racing genre cause we love a good soundtrack to hype us up while going at break neck speeds. i never played burnout revenge so i don't know the soundtrack but i loved the burnout 3 soundtrack with favorites like: give it up by midtown, broken promises by moments in grace, stay in shadow by finger eleven, breathing by yellowcard, memory by sugarcult, independance day by no motiv and just tonight by jimmy eat world.
I think I’m one of the few people that like the 360 port, simply because I love all the additional bits after crashing. Also not playing my PS2 copy for years might’ve helped. But I can understand why people don’t like the 360 version. I’m sure we can all agree that Revenge is still an amazing game, no matter what version.
Burnout Revenge has a really soft spot in my heart, as it was the reason of why i started loving vehicular combat games when i was 6. Even tho i liked the 360 version, the PS2 version will forever be superior to me because it has all the charm and comfy feeling that the 360 version just doesn't have. Great video Alex! :D
Turning vehicles into projectiles with traffic checking was a really good idea for the time. It adds a new layer of gameplay while also keeping things fluid so players can still maintain their momentum. Also I love when games go all around the world. I prefer that over open world in some cases.
You just can't get that same level of environmental variety when you are restricted to one open world. It's a reason I much prefer close track racers instead, or how Midnight Club has smaller but multiple open world locations.
@@GamerAlexVideos The Midnight Club 1/2/3 method was perfect in my book, same with the earlier Driver games. That's not to say a singular open world can't have equal variety, GTA San Andreas, Just Cause 2, and to a lesser extent Burnout Paradise come to mind, but those are very much exceptions to the rule.
Ah, yes. It's Mr. Landlord's favorite PS2 racing video game. It was featured in Smiling Friends and it's the perfect PS2 racing video game to hang out, smoke weed and drink Diet Coke.
Burnout Revenge is perhaps the most violent, intense racing game I've played thus far. I haven't experienced another one similar to it. Things never stop feeling chaotic, not even in crash mode where you're expected to be more strategic and cautious if you want to maximise your score. I really wish there was a single event mode. That's easily the biggest flaw. I'm also sad to have seen how much content was cut, but that doesn't take away from the awesome end result. I have played Revenge since the late 2000s and I can't get bored of it.
this plays so well on a Steam Deck OLED via emulation - apply a couple of patches on the PS2 version, up the resolution to 3 or 4x and it's still better than anything released more recently (including Paradise).
Thank you!! No one ever talks about Burnout Revenge! I used to borrow it so many times from the rental shop that I think my parents spent more than the RRP lol
I love this game man. I finished it multiple times on PS2, then Xbox 360 and recently PCSX2. This game improves on everything 3 had to offer in my opinion, and that one is considered by many as the goat. Oh, and the 360 version still looks really good imo (ignoring the bloom of course). Still, the definitive way of playing it is definitely PCSX2, right now it works flawlessly from the get go.
Hmm, I don't remember having issues with the 360 visuals like that. It always looked great to me. This was the first game I played on 360 and on a big screen 1080p TV. We had a big surround system with a 12" powered sub too, and it sounded amazing.
With friends we started to play Revenge again recently and we started with the PS2 version that we pretty much completed (we have the 1st F1 car), then we decided to do the game but on 360 and oh boy... the physics differences are hardcore. The game just became harder and sometimes the AI is completely broken, they just drive backward when they're going too fastin races, something that NEVER happened on PS2. This version is just a lot more buggy but still fun tho, kinda like a passable hard mode. I'll say, the best verion to play is probably the PS2 version but on an emulator using HD texture pack that uses the 360 ones, then you kinda have the definitive version of the game.
My two biggest complaints is the 3 cars with blowers you can't access but feature in the main menu, loading screens, and location previews, and the crash cars that look like they'd be fun for the main races too.
Revenge is the ultimate Burnout experience. Period. I would say it's my all time favorite game but I got to give it to Burnout 2. It's much simpler experiece compared to it but it's perfect on what is trying to do. Has the best 'brake to drift' handling and it was the game that really got me on the series.
Burnout 2 also had manual transmission... Burnout Paradise was fine as the vehicles didn't even have real transmissions, but in 3 and Revenge the cars would sometimes fail to shift up for a few seconds drastically reducing your acceleration.
I enjoyed Revenge a lot when I was a kid, and it still remains my second favorite in the entire series. However, Takedown steals the show for me personally with how many more hours I spent on it as well as the insane amount of fun I have in it more than Revenge, especially Road Rage. It’s hard to explain, but I just overall prefer it the most. Edit: The vehicles are great in Revenge, but the ones in Takedown feel faster and handle smoother. Their sounds (mostly the Super Series) make the cars sound distinct from one another despite some sounds being reused and tweaked. And don’t even get me started on the flawless soundtrack (the one after My Chemical Romance doesn’t count shush), with it making me listen to two artists in particular quite a lot because of it. As someone who grew up with punk rock and heavy metal, Takedown’s soundtrack just sends me to another place.
I love the technicality of Revenge so much it's the reason why I loved playing it offline and online so much. I grew up with the Xbox 360 version mainly cause it also had Paradise and because of my favorite glitch in the game, being to use crash vehicles in race events. Once I discovered that on my own, I couldn't put Revenge down. Revenge is peak!
I'd say the only thing that's missing is a custom event mode where you can pick any track and change the rules to your liking- How much traffic, Crashbreaker ON/OFF, lap-count etc. Other than that though, Burnout Revenge is potentially my favourite in the series too 💥
glad to hear you enjoyed flyover in the ost a lot of players didnt like it cause dnb was a bit weird in a metal heavy soundtrack but i enjoyed it too my favourite songs have gotta be: (ranked in order from best to least best) hand of blood (bullet for my valentine) (no other song fits this games grungy vibe as well as this and its just so badass when you are smashing traffic off the road) Fight (Unwritten Law) (the censored version sounds kinda weird tho id recommend listening to the original) Red Flag (Billy Talent) All The Rage (Funeral For A Friend) All-American Rejects (Top Of The World) i want (goldfinger) almost there (the academy is...) The World (The Starting Line) damn im tearing up from nostalgia the memories are flooding back in 🥲
The first video I've seen where somebody critiques the takedown system/physics on the 360. I personally can't stand it, so this really made my day lmao
100% agree with you about the 360 port. On top of the other issues, is the music direction thay really hurts. As you mentioned, it hurts the flow of it a LOT, especially during takedowns. I think Criterion was not satisfied with this as well, as this is not present in the portable games or Paradise. Revenger is also my favorite Burnout and very close to what it would be a perfect arcade racer.
I beat Burnout 3 100%. It was a tough challenge, especially the signature takedowns, but I managed it. I wanted to do the same for Revenge, so I got the 360 version and right away, the contrast issues were killing me. The tracks were so hard to see, the shadows were way too dark. It led to many bogus failures in other words. Getting vertical takedowns for the challenges was next to impossible. Never mind the physics, it’s far too situational which made the game grindy. The straw that broke the camel’s back was the preview lap for White Mountain, the one where you drive the Criterion Racer GT. The PS2 version gives you some leeway for gold time, but the 360 version shortens the time limit making gold very, very difficult. And they did this for no reason. I couldn’t stand it anymore and quit the game for good. Then I see everyone online praising Burnout Revenge and saying it’s better than 3. I used to wonder how anybody can think this, but now it seems they were playing the better version. I actually got the PS2 version recently but have yet to give it a try. I’m playing NFS Underground right now, but maybe I’ll play Revenge next. Good video, btw!
Thanks for adressing the 360 issues, i remeber playing this game in PS2 years ago and loving it. Last year i tried the 360 version and it felt off instantly, i wondered if that version was just bad or maybe the game was always bad and nostalgia tricked me. Fortunately it was the former
I personally prefer burnout 3 for its crash mode, cars, physics, and soundtrack. That game was peak burnout imo. Burnout revenge is still an insanely fun game though I love the traffic checking feature that’s just pure fun. Burnout revenge to me is the 2nd best game in the franchise.
Meh. I gave Revenge a try a while back on the PS2, and I didn’t really enjoy my time with it. For one, I found it to be a little too easy to either spin out your car when attempting to drift, or get blindsided by incoming traffic coming around the corner with no way to escape. I get that the crashes are a major part of Burnout’s gameplay identity, but I feel like every game past Point of Impact (at least prior to Dominator and Paradise) was trying way too hard to make it a core experience of the gameplay, and often at the expense of making the basic driving feel satisfying. Speaking of crashes…another thing I wasn’t a fan of was how the Crash Mode is executed. For starters, instead of the simple “hold down the Gas to build up steam for the car’s launch” mechanic they had in the previous two games, they ditched it for what it is essentially a Golf or Bowling-style launch meter, where you double tap the Gas button at the right time to launch at maximum speed. I don’t get why this change was made, and I wish they hadn’t made it. More importantly though, there’s no way to control the camera either before or during a Crash Mode event. The most you get is a single flyover of the level before it snaps back to your car. And from that point on, it is glued to the back of the car at all times. This makes it really difficult to strategize and come up with the most effective way to rack up that Cost to State tally. (This issue becomes exponentially more frustrating when you get to more complicated junctions with multiple tiered roadways that outright require you to make your car jump between said roadways to ensure you rack up the best possible score.) Lastly, I also wasn’t the biggest fan of how they chose to implement Crashbreaker into the standard races. The cars having a Crashbreaker Force Rating that is the sole determinant of how effective using the Crashbreaker is for any given vehicle (and often making any cars that aren’t the Special Class cars obsolete to a certain extent) feels…for a lack of a better word…like an unnecessary complication. (And one that later titles like Dominator would simplify for the better.) On top of that, the devs also decided that some of the standard race events (particularly in the early hours) should just not let you use Crashbreaker, which to me feels frustrating. I get that they probably wanted us to prove we were capable of handling its destructive power *before* giving it to us, but it just ends up making the early hours more frustrating to get through. Moreover, it introduces yet another unnecessary complication that the game really doesn’t need or benefit from; by the time the player gets the Crashbreaker in the standard races, they’re likely already halfway through the game and will likely not have enough time to really learn how to maximize the Crashbreaker’s destructive potential, assuming they don’t just choose to ignore it altogether out of habit. With all of these complaints put together…I consider Revenge to be a mixed bag; a game with a lot of neat mechanics and a very appealing aesthetic that *can* be fun, but is often heavily bogged down by a handful of questionable design decisions, and a somewhat butchered execution that makes enjoying the whole package a difficult and often frustrating affair.
i feel the exact same way about need for speed hot pursuit everything from the e3 trailer to the game itself was stellar burnout revenge is really solid too though and is in my opinion without a doubt the best burnout in the franchise traffic checking is also to me what made it the best burnout in the franchise and it was really disheartening to see it reduced to only trucks in burnout paradise as i think it made burnout unique as traffic checking is something no other arcade racer really has and its why i dont really enjoy any burnout that isnt revenge besides burnout paradise
for me the burnout series is literally the best arcade series i can pick and choose between burnout 3,takedown,revenge and emulated at 4k 60 fps and if i want sometime more modern Burnout Paradise......literally i cant think of another game saga besides Gran Turismo or forza where you can jump in time and change gameplay mechanics on the fly on my 10 years old pc
The PlayStation 2 version is also very well optimised for the hardware, with gameplay being a solid 60fps, and menus being 30fps. I play on the original Xbox version which has 60fps all throughout, but the visual differences between the two versions is negligible.
While the cars have plenty of personality i wouldn't say they're completely original, the supercar starter is very clearly a Ford GT with a silouette closer to that of a Saleen S7, so it's clearly an american car. The coupe on the other hand is ment to be something like a mercedes or audi two door coupe, with a very clear european desing. The revenge racer is clearly based on a fusion of the pagani zonda and the Ferrari Enzo, so it's an italian supercar. And the nixon special is just a lotus. I love them all regardless
i still prefer 3's campaign structur let you do whatever want like setting up event in singleplayer you can kinda head start with just repeating races revenge move to getting star without custom races feature kinda put me down
Same, there are some other aspects I liked about 3 more as well (the car list, music, and crashing physics where you could really spazz out and go flying), but the menu system had to be the biggest drawback for Revenge.
@@od13166 In 3? Cause other then the dominator cars in my experience the rest of the vehicles in a class felt pretty balanced. It's actually one of the other issues I had with Revenge, after progressing in the campaign, it was basically impossible to go back and race with lower tier cars as the AI would be using the faster ones even when replaying early events. Burnout Paradise had the same problem.
I have to disagree with the sound design part, specifically for Burnout Revenge X360 version. Tbh the engine sound system is a complete downgrade to me, like why would Criterion just thought of it and approved by EA to just reuse Black Box NFS Engine sound files, specifically the gins sounds. They're all sounds the same (V10, V8) no matter which cars you chose. They don't really fit whatsoever compared to PS2, Xbox version. They also did the same mistake for Burnout Paradise too but I won't criticise for it any further. Only the improvements they did for X360 version is you've already mentioned: HQ Car models and textures.
Agree, the engine sounds in 360 version was dull and less aggressive compared to PS2 and Xbox Original version idk what happens to the development of 360 version of Revenge, overall 360 version of Revenge is actually quite underwhelming opposite to like 360 version of NFS MW 2005
People may have 3 as their part of the greatest favorite, but for me Revenge is still take a spot, it has almost anything to make it "a real car carnage" Badass car design, gritty atmosphere and graphics (yeah screw for over yellow piss filtering in Xbox 360 version), banger soundtrack (Helicopter, Dance - Dance, Apply Some Pleasure is my top 3 of Revenge soundtrack), and of course the best features of all of the entire game a "Traffic Checking" where you can hit any civilian cars without wrecked as long as you don't do that in Head On position or hitting a bigger cars like Busses and "Crash breaker" if you being pissed with anything that make you hit and crashed lol just watch out for your nitrous lost if you missed the target One thing that made Burnout franchise has their own charm is a Impact Time sound effects when you crashing by hold the R1 button (RT button on Xbox) to slow down the crashing, where these games becoming a dark Horor games showing you a harrowing reality of car crashing (of course the whole Burnout series was inspired by Thril Drive) firstly introduce in Burnout 3 and it of course returned in revenge and guess what, the impact time is even darker and creepier compared to 3 considering the gritty atmosphere of the game as well Of course Revenge is not a perfect game, it lacks of content compared to 3 and heck even Dominator and Legends but still it has a special place in my favorite racing games
yo criterion made revenge? damn criterion just has the midas touch when it comes to racing games, i havent played a single criterion game and not enjoyed it so far
The whole Burnout series was made by Criterion dude why you wondering that, it's just has a different publisher, the first two games published by Acclaim Entertainment, 3 to Paradise published by EA like we know now
@@FrozenDrone12 yeah and im saying thats why all the burnout games are goated in series like nfs weve gotten other studious like blackbox and ghost and i always enjoy the nfs games made by criterion the most and by extension most of the burnout games
@@FrozenDrone12 yes, Burnout series was handled and developed by Criterion with an exception of Burnout Dominator where it was made by a different developer called EA Bright Light aka EA UK. just wanted to point you out in case if you didn't know.
Hey all, before I get comments saying, “but you said there isn't a greatest arcade racer of all time”, let me clarify:
Admittedly, I wanted a catchy title for this video, and this was the best one I could come up with. I still stand by what I said in my fanboy video as there are too many different styles and variety for a ‘greatest arcade racer of all time’. Burnout Revenge is certainly my favorite though, and I really hope you all enjoy the video!
@GamerGod1995 Complaining about what? I'm confused.
“I WAS JUST WONDERING IF YOU WANTED TO HANG OUT WITH ME AND SMOKE WEED AND FILL OUR BELLIES WITH DIET SODA AND PLAY BURNOUT REVENGE FOR THE PS2”
- Landlord, Smiling Friends
Whenever I see the spectacular-looking cars of Burnout 3 and Revenge, it makes me miss when older games had entirely fictional car designs, like Split/Second and Motorstorm. Using 1:1 replicas of real-life cars but debadging them does not count. We gotta have more of original designs in arcade racing games again.
Only GTA still do this
@@trashnoodle_ don’t forget BeamNG
This game goes hard while hanging out, smoking weed and filling up our bellies with diet soda ngl
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it has been nearly 2 decades and white mountain still looks gorgeous
*BROTHER'S SPEAKING FACTS WITH THAT TITLE*
My biggest issue with Burnout Revenge is the lack of a single event mode. It makes trying to find a specific event type on a specific track a real pain. Also since the cars aren't broken up into classes like in Burnout 3, it means once you beat the game you are basically stuck only using the top-tier vehicles (Burnout Paradise had the same problem). Burnout Revenge is still an amazing game, but it has a lot of small things I don't like that keeps it from being my favorite.
There is also that insane difficulty spike at the end of the career that makes the experience just painful, combined with the downgrade of the sound design and takedown cams from 3 and the overall jankiness of the game, i personally would consider it better than 3 if it wasn't for all those little things that just make the game less enjoyable
soundtrack i find is something seriously underrated in games these days and people don't critique it much except fans of the racing genre cause we love a good soundtrack to hype us up while going at break neck speeds. i never played burnout revenge so i don't know the soundtrack but i loved the burnout 3 soundtrack with favorites like: give it up by midtown, broken promises by moments in grace, stay in shadow by finger eleven, breathing by yellowcard, memory by sugarcult, independance day by no motiv and just tonight by jimmy eat world.
Specifically the PS2 version, put the volume on high, preferably with a subwoofer system. Pure adrenaline rush. 💥
I think I’m one of the few people that like the 360 port, simply because I love all the additional bits after crashing. Also not playing my PS2 copy for years might’ve helped. But I can understand why people don’t like the 360 version. I’m sure we can all agree that Revenge is still an amazing game, no matter what version.
I like the 360 version. I’ve played both versions though.
Burnout Revenge has a really soft spot in my heart, as it was the reason of why i started loving vehicular combat games when i was 6. Even tho i liked the 360 version, the PS2 version will forever be superior to me because it has all the charm and comfy feeling that the 360 version just doesn't have. Great video Alex! :D
Turning vehicles into projectiles with traffic checking was a really good idea for the time. It adds a new layer of gameplay while also keeping things fluid so players can still maintain their momentum. Also I love when games go all around the world.
I prefer that over open world in some cases.
You just can't get that same level of environmental variety when you are restricted to one open world. It's a reason I much prefer close track racers instead, or how Midnight Club has smaller but multiple open world locations.
@@GamerAlexVideos The Midnight Club 1/2/3 method was perfect in my book, same with the earlier Driver games. That's not to say a singular open world can't have equal variety, GTA San Andreas, Just Cause 2, and to a lesser extent Burnout Paradise come to mind, but those are very much exceptions to the rule.
Ah, yes. It's Mr. Landlord's favorite PS2 racing video game. It was featured in Smiling Friends and it's the perfect PS2 racing video game to hang out, smoke weed and drink Diet Coke.
Burnout Revenge is perhaps the most violent, intense racing game I've played thus far. I haven't experienced another one similar to it. Things never stop feeling chaotic, not even in crash mode where you're expected to be more strategic and cautious if you want to maximise your score.
I really wish there was a single event mode. That's easily the biggest flaw. I'm also sad to have seen how much content was cut, but that doesn't take away from the awesome end result.
I have played Revenge since the late 2000s and I can't get bored of it.
this plays so well on a Steam Deck OLED via emulation - apply a couple of patches on the PS2 version, up the resolution to 3 or 4x and it's still better than anything released more recently (including Paradise).
Thank you!! No one ever talks about Burnout Revenge! I used to borrow it so many times from the rental shop that I think my parents spent more than the RRP lol
I love this game man. I finished it multiple times on PS2, then Xbox 360 and recently PCSX2. This game improves on everything 3 had to offer in my opinion, and that one is considered by many as the goat. Oh, and the 360 version still looks really good imo (ignoring the bloom of course). Still, the definitive way of playing it is definitely PCSX2, right now it works flawlessly from the get go.
Love to see people making videos about Burnout, the series needs more love! At its peak it was the best to ever do it.
Hmm, I don't remember having issues with the 360 visuals like that. It always looked great to me. This was the first game I played on 360 and on a big screen 1080p TV. We had a big surround system with a 12" powered sub too, and it sounded amazing.
Great video and only 3,2 k views? Something is wrong.
With friends we started to play Revenge again recently and we started with the PS2 version that we pretty much completed (we have the 1st F1 car), then we decided to do the game but on 360 and oh boy... the physics differences are hardcore. The game just became harder and sometimes the AI is completely broken, they just drive backward when they're going too fastin races, something that NEVER happened on PS2. This version is just a lot more buggy but still fun tho, kinda like a passable hard mode. I'll say, the best verion to play is probably the PS2 version but on an emulator using HD texture pack that uses the 360 ones, then you kinda have the definitive version of the game.
My two biggest complaints is the 3 cars with blowers you can't access but feature in the main menu, loading screens, and location previews, and the crash cars that look like they'd be fun for the main races too.
Great video Alex! Even if I disagree with almost everything you said about my beloved Xbox 360 version lol. The glowy bloom makes it better!
Revenge is the ultimate Burnout experience. Period. I would say it's my all time favorite game but I got to give it to Burnout 2. It's much simpler experiece compared to it but it's perfect on what is trying to do. Has the best 'brake to drift' handling and it was the game that really got me on the series.
Burnout 2 also had manual transmission...
Burnout Paradise was fine as the vehicles didn't even have real transmissions, but in 3 and Revenge the cars would sometimes fail to shift up for a few seconds drastically reducing your acceleration.
I enjoyed Revenge a lot when I was a kid, and it still remains my second favorite in the entire series.
However, Takedown steals the show for me personally with how many more hours I spent on it as well as the insane amount of fun I have in it more than Revenge, especially Road Rage. It’s hard to explain, but I just overall prefer it the most.
Edit: The vehicles are great in Revenge, but the ones in Takedown feel faster and handle smoother. Their sounds (mostly the Super Series) make the cars sound distinct from one another despite some sounds being reused and tweaked.
And don’t even get me started on the flawless soundtrack (the one after My Chemical Romance doesn’t count shush), with it making me listen to two artists in particular quite a lot because of it. As someone who grew up with punk rock and heavy metal, Takedown’s soundtrack just sends me to another place.
It's between this game, Flatout 2, and Split/Second for me, they're really that damn good.
I love the technicality of Revenge so much it's the reason why I loved playing it offline and online so much.
I grew up with the Xbox 360 version mainly cause it also had Paradise and because of my favorite glitch in the game, being to use crash vehicles in race events. Once I discovered that on my own, I couldn't put Revenge down.
Revenge is peak!
I'd say the only thing that's missing is a custom event mode where you can pick any track and change the rules to your liking- How much traffic, Crashbreaker ON/OFF, lap-count etc.
Other than that though, Burnout Revenge is potentially my favourite in the series too 💥
Oh, yea that is very annoying. It's certainly one of the issues I have with the game, especially since you select gamemodes / tracks in splitscreen!
Fun fact, this and point of impact are the only two burnout games that I’ve owned and loved.
glad to hear you enjoyed flyover in the ost a lot of players didnt like it cause dnb was a bit weird in a metal heavy soundtrack but i enjoyed it too
my favourite songs have gotta be: (ranked in order from best to least best)
hand of blood (bullet for my valentine) (no other song fits this games grungy vibe as well as this and its just so badass when you are smashing traffic off the road)
Fight (Unwritten Law) (the censored version sounds kinda weird tho id recommend listening to the original)
Red Flag (Billy Talent)
All The Rage (Funeral For A Friend)
All-American Rejects (Top Of The World)
i want (goldfinger)
almost there (the academy is...)
The World (The Starting Line)
damn im tearing up from nostalgia the memories are flooding back in 🥲
Flyover was always such a unique sounding song in the game and finding out it is DNB makes sense. Maybe I got to give DNB more of a shot!
The first video I've seen where somebody critiques the takedown system/physics on the 360. I personally can't stand it, so this really made my day lmao
I've seen no one ever really mention it either, so I definitely had to!
100% agree with you about the 360 port. On top of the other issues, is the music direction thay really hurts. As you mentioned, it hurts the flow of it a LOT, especially during takedowns. I think Criterion was not satisfied with this as well, as this is not present in the portable games or Paradise.
Revenger is also my favorite Burnout and very close to what it would be a perfect arcade racer.
Here before the first Smiling Friends comment
just realised what you meant lmao
I beat Burnout 3 100%. It was a tough challenge, especially the signature takedowns, but I managed it. I wanted to do the same for Revenge, so I got the 360 version and right away, the contrast issues were killing me. The tracks were so hard to see, the shadows were way too dark. It led to many bogus failures in other words.
Getting vertical takedowns for the challenges was next to impossible. Never mind the physics, it’s far too situational which made the game grindy.
The straw that broke the camel’s back was the preview lap for White Mountain, the one where you drive the Criterion Racer GT. The PS2 version gives you some leeway for gold time, but the 360 version shortens the time limit making gold very, very difficult. And they did this for no reason. I couldn’t stand it anymore and quit the game for good. Then I see everyone online praising Burnout Revenge and saying it’s better than 3. I used to wonder how anybody can think this, but now it seems they were playing the better version.
I actually got the PS2 version recently but have yet to give it a try. I’m playing NFS Underground right now, but maybe I’ll play Revenge next. Good video, btw!
I hope you have a better experience on PS2!
i remember playing this as a kid on the ps2, good times
A bag of weed and Diet Coke are included.
Thanks for adressing the 360 issues, i remeber playing this game in PS2 years ago and loving it. Last year i tried the 360 version and it felt off instantly, i wondered if that version was just bad or maybe the game was always bad and nostalgia tricked me. Fortunately it was the former
Crash Time 5 is finally re-released on steam!
I just noticed the soundtrack of revenge is same in Burnout Legends PSP or most of it in the list
I personally prefer burnout 3 for its crash mode, cars, physics, and soundtrack. That game was peak burnout imo. Burnout revenge is still an insanely fun game though I love the traffic checking feature that’s just pure fun. Burnout revenge to me is the 2nd best game in the franchise.
Give me Remasters of Burnout 3 and Revenge as well as Need For Speed Underground 1+2, and all my arcade racing urges will be fulfilled.
Meh. I gave Revenge a try a while back on the PS2, and I didn’t really enjoy my time with it.
For one, I found it to be a little too easy to either spin out your car when attempting to drift, or get blindsided by incoming traffic coming around the corner with no way to escape.
I get that the crashes are a major part of Burnout’s gameplay identity, but I feel like every game past Point of Impact (at least prior to Dominator and Paradise) was trying way too hard to make it a core experience of the gameplay, and often at the expense of making the basic driving feel satisfying.
Speaking of crashes…another thing I wasn’t a fan of was how the Crash Mode is executed.
For starters, instead of the simple “hold down the Gas to build up steam for the car’s launch” mechanic they had in the previous two games, they ditched it for what it is essentially a Golf or Bowling-style launch meter, where you double tap the Gas button at the right time to launch at maximum speed. I don’t get why this change was made, and I wish they hadn’t made it.
More importantly though, there’s no way to control the camera either before or during a Crash Mode event. The most you get is a single flyover of the level before it snaps back to your car. And from that point on, it is glued to the back of the car at all times. This makes it really difficult to strategize and come up with the most effective way to rack up that Cost to State tally.
(This issue becomes exponentially more frustrating when you get to more complicated junctions with multiple tiered roadways that outright require you to make your car jump between said roadways to ensure you rack up the best possible score.)
Lastly, I also wasn’t the biggest fan of how they chose to implement Crashbreaker into the standard races.
The cars having a Crashbreaker Force Rating that is the sole determinant of how effective using the Crashbreaker is for any given vehicle (and often making any cars that aren’t the Special Class cars obsolete to a certain extent) feels…for a lack of a better word…like an unnecessary complication. (And one that later titles like Dominator would simplify for the better.) On top of that, the devs also decided that some of the standard race events (particularly in the early hours) should just not let you use Crashbreaker, which to me feels frustrating.
I get that they probably wanted us to prove we were capable of handling its destructive power *before* giving it to us, but it just ends up making the early hours more frustrating to get through.
Moreover, it introduces yet another unnecessary complication that the game really doesn’t need or benefit from; by the time the player gets the Crashbreaker in the standard races, they’re likely already halfway through the game and will likely not have enough time to really learn how to maximize the Crashbreaker’s destructive potential, assuming they don’t just choose to ignore it altogether out of habit.
With all of these complaints put together…I consider Revenge to be a mixed bag; a game with a lot of neat mechanics and a very appealing aesthetic that *can* be fun, but is often heavily bogged down by a handful of questionable design decisions, and a somewhat butchered execution that makes enjoying the whole package a difficult and often frustrating affair.
i feel the exact same way about need for speed hot pursuit
everything from the e3 trailer to the game itself was stellar
burnout revenge is really solid too though and is in my opinion without a doubt the best burnout in the franchise
traffic checking is also to me what made it the best burnout in the franchise and it was really disheartening to see it reduced to only trucks in burnout paradise as i think it made burnout unique as traffic checking is something no other arcade racer really has and its why i dont really enjoy any burnout that isnt revenge besides burnout paradise
for me the burnout series is literally the best arcade series i can pick and choose between burnout 3,takedown,revenge and emulated at 4k 60 fps and if i want sometime more modern Burnout Paradise......literally i cant think of another game saga besides Gran Turismo or forza where you can jump in time and change gameplay mechanics on the fly on my 10 years old pc
Just a reminder...
Crash Time 5 re-release on Steam has been released!
Yes, finally someone address the horrible physics that the 360 version have. It's so heavy, to the point it almost make the aftertouch useless
I'd argue that burnout 3: takedown is better, because stryker is in it. Stryker is love. Stryker is life
The PlayStation 2 version is also very well optimised for the hardware, with gameplay being a solid 60fps, and menus being 30fps. I play on the original Xbox version which has 60fps all throughout, but the visual differences between the two versions is negligible.
Currently playing burnout revenge on the psp and the "port" is actually quite a solid little racer.
Burnout Revenge isn't on the PSP though... 🤔
Yup. Mixed it up with burnout dominator 🙄.
My bad bro 🫣
@@GamerAlexVideos It's only on PS2, Xbox and Xbox 360. It's also playable on Xbox One and Xbox Series X/S.
I have to agree, my man✌️
Even MotorStorm is a good one.
Burnout revenge is the goat racing games
While the cars have plenty of personality i wouldn't say they're completely original, the supercar starter is very clearly a Ford GT with a silouette closer to that of a Saleen S7, so it's clearly an american car. The coupe on the other hand is ment to be something like a mercedes or audi two door coupe, with a very clear european desing. The revenge racer is clearly based on a fusion of the pagani zonda and the Ferrari Enzo, so it's an italian supercar. And the nixon special is just a lotus. I love them all regardless
Yea, they are still inspired by real-life models. However, they certainly aren't as identifiable as other cars in the series.
@@GamerAlexVideos that's fair enough
i still prefer 3's campaign structur let you do whatever want like setting up event in singleplayer you can kinda head start with just repeating races
revenge move to getting star without custom races feature kinda put me down
Same, there are some other aspects I liked about 3 more as well (the car list, music, and crashing physics where you could really spazz out and go flying), but the menu system had to be the biggest drawback for Revenge.
@@scottthewaterwarrior like you can headstart career by collecting some cars with challenges
@@od13166 In 3? Cause other then the dominator cars in my experience the rest of the vehicles in a class felt pretty balanced. It's actually one of the other issues I had with Revenge, after progressing in the campaign, it was basically impossible to go back and race with lower tier cars as the AI would be using the faster ones even when replaying early events. Burnout Paradise had the same problem.
I do love the additional cars for the Xbox 360 version
plus the new crash levels as well aka removed content from last gen
I have to disagree with the sound design part, specifically for Burnout Revenge X360 version. Tbh the engine sound system is a complete downgrade to me, like why would Criterion just thought of it and approved by EA to just reuse Black Box NFS Engine sound files, specifically the gins sounds. They're all sounds the same (V10, V8) no matter which cars you chose. They don't really fit whatsoever compared to PS2, Xbox version. They also did the same mistake for Burnout Paradise too but I won't criticise for it any further. Only the improvements they did for X360 version is you've already mentioned: HQ Car models and textures.
Agree, the engine sounds in 360 version was dull and less aggressive compared to PS2 and Xbox Original version idk what happens to the development of 360 version of Revenge, overall 360 version of Revenge is actually quite underwhelming opposite to like 360 version of NFS MW 2005
REAL
People may have 3 as their part of the greatest favorite, but for me Revenge is still take a spot, it has almost anything to make it "a real car carnage" Badass car design, gritty atmosphere and graphics (yeah screw for over yellow piss filtering in Xbox 360 version), banger soundtrack (Helicopter, Dance - Dance, Apply Some Pleasure is my top 3 of Revenge soundtrack), and of course the best features of all of the entire game a "Traffic Checking" where you can hit any civilian cars without wrecked as long as you don't do that in Head On position or hitting a bigger cars like Busses and "Crash breaker" if you being pissed with anything that make you hit and crashed lol just watch out for your nitrous lost if you missed the target
One thing that made Burnout franchise has their own charm is a Impact Time sound effects when you crashing by hold the R1 button (RT button on Xbox) to slow down the crashing, where these games becoming a dark Horor games showing you a harrowing reality of car crashing (of course the whole Burnout series was inspired by Thril Drive) firstly introduce in Burnout 3 and it of course returned in revenge and guess what, the impact time is even darker and creepier compared to 3 considering the gritty atmosphere of the game as well
Of course Revenge is not a perfect game, it lacks of content compared to 3 and heck even Dominator and Legends but still it has a special place in my favorite racing games
I still consider Burnout Dominator to be a good game and i happily replay it, but 3 and Revenge still are better
And it had the best songs.
I love Revenge’s soundtrack!
FACT
I liked Burnout 3 better.
the greatest arcade racer is a console game...
sure bro.
weird comment
yo criterion made revenge?
damn criterion just has the midas touch when it comes to racing games, i havent played a single criterion game and not enjoyed it so far
The whole Burnout series was made by Criterion dude why you wondering that, it's just has a different publisher, the first two games published by Acclaim Entertainment, 3 to Paradise published by EA like we know now
@@FrozenDrone12 yeah and im saying thats why all the burnout games are goated
in series like nfs weve gotten other studious like blackbox and ghost and i always enjoy the nfs games made by criterion the most and by extension most of the burnout games
@@FrozenDrone12 yes, Burnout series was handled and developed by Criterion with an exception of Burnout Dominator where it was made by a different developer called EA Bright Light aka EA UK. just wanted to point you out in case if you didn't know.
Lol no, Burnout 3 was better in every way
Nah.