bought the Ryzen 3 3200GE version for just $100, awesome performance on linux. Also love how easily accessible the inside of the fan is to remove fluff.
Thanks for the video. Very informative. Based on what you've shown, I'll pop mine open and double check the configuration, and look at adding secondary storage. I have a WD My Cloud on the network, but getting software to access that is a bit of a nuisance. I was thinking of playing with Plex and related software, and adding secondary storage on-board would be a simple approach with less clutter.
Very informative video, M75q Tiny Gen 2 is quite an attractive model with low price. Renoir really is killing the competition in SFF and laptop market!(only if these are more available and popular) Here I'd like to have some questions: How's the thermal performance?(temperature and noise during daily usage and/or benchmarks, ) Is there VRAM(UMA) setting in the BIOS? This should be located in BIOS(press del at power up)=>Config(or Devices)=>Display, called "UMA Frame buffer Size"(or Total Graphics Memory), you should be able to select from Auto up to 2G Thanks in advance!
The thermal is really ok for my case, I never pass 50 for normal usages and when running multiple VMs it runs to 60 and fan starts to work, it's not loud though :) Renoir is a good choice too, but in my market its more expensive than thinkpad and also doesn't have ryzen 5 and 7 options.
Been using it for 8 months, while consistently programming on dual 4K Monitors. If anyone here does Android DEV, get 32GB Ram ... that's my only concern.
Very cool. I saw that you can also update the processor on it. I also saw on the Lenovo website that it even comes with the Ryzen 7 Pro 4750GE processor Searching the AMD website I saw the Ryzen 7 Pro 4750G which has practically the same configurations as the 4750GE only with a base clock of 200 Mhz faster. So, I was wondering if I can upgrade the processor to a 4750G using the same cooler that comes with this mini pc.
The BIOS and most likely the AGESA may be custom built for Lenovo to limit what processors this unit can use. Let alone I don't think the power supply can power the 65W processor. I have many M75q boxes and they use a 35W Ryzen 3 Pro 3200GE.
No, I needs to have the E at the end (Ryzen 7 Pro 4750GE), that means it is a 35W CPU, the limit it can take. The version ending just in G is a 65W CPU, it will not work and there is a risk to damage the board VRM and will overheat for sure.
I think you need to check the motherboard compatibility (also recommendations ) for your new CPU and if your current motherboard is listed, then you may use. Just my understanding, not sure.
So, i was very surprized to see the board set up to take a PCIe slot, though obviously a custom factory GPU/network card still pretty surprizing, as, so far as i know, only the P320 tiny has a PCIe slot and no M series tinys have them
Very strange, it looks like there are 2x M.2 pin outs but no slot, and no mounting hardware, i wonder what these would be for, did you order yours without WiFi/LTE? Would be dissapointing if they didnt include the slots if you dont order it with the device, because i was planning on adding an M.2 drive along side the HDD
Hi, what GPU does the M75q Gen 2 use? Is it the Radeon 11? I already own a Thinkcentre Tiny M720q and I can say that Lenovo makes excellent computers that are easy to service and they are durable.
It's not specified what architecture the gpu uses. It's assumed to be Vega, but you literally can't find in any place that is not plainly assuming. As for the core count's it depends on what APU you choose. You can search this on google for the core count of the GPU once you choose the APU
I don't know the exact architecture, as @blake Vargas mentioned, it is not specified, and it's a OEM processor, so we don't have much Information. What I can say is I do light gaming on it and video editing and I didn't encounter slightest issue so far.
Can you please take a look at emulation performance in PCSX2 and RPCS3. I'm interested to see how this performs in titles such as Shadow of the Colossus and Skate.
I have a 3400G and a 4650G i will try them both in my M75Q gen2 once it arrives to see if the CPU can be upgraded, though with that tiny heat sink you would probably be limited to "GE" processors or Athlons
@@techmo2020 Before any of this i'll be testing the 4750GE in the tiny against the Apple M1 Mac Mini, noticed that my work laptop with 4750u was not only slightly faster in handbrake than the Mac Mini, but the laptop also used ~25% less power to transcode the same video to H265 Seeing as i bought the Mac Mini to transcode to H265 24/7, i was a bit upset given the price over the 8 core tiny, especially sinse it was supposed to be on a 50% more efficient node than Ryzen, let alone being a RISC processor What were the circumstances of the upgrade? I could understand it not working if they went from a 3400GE to say a 4650G/GE. I'm hoping they didnt have the issue going from a 3200GE to a 3400G, i was hoping to take the 4750GE out and putting it in my portable file server(cant seem to find the GE models on ebay), and throwing the ebay 4650G from my file server into the Tiny, was hoping to have a small gaming rig with the 4650G(for older games), with the higher iGPU frequency and GPU power budget than the GE models, i could use windows power plans to keep the CPU power under 20w and leave the rest for the iGPU Was hoping to get the idle/peak power usage down on the file server with the 4750GE, with 2 extra cores it will help with the interupts from the dual 40G network card and 16xSSD array, keeping the frequnecy lower by spreading across more cores is key for a long run time on UPS, keeping the temps lower also helps to reduce dust build up in dirty environments.
@@denvera1g1 thanks for info, yeah GE version is meant for manufactors, not retail, I couldn't find it either. Interesting that the performance is better than m1 for that use case. Did u run it natively on m1?
Please Guied Me Can I Change and Downgrade CPU Ryzen 3 Pro 5350GE to Athlon 3000G 35Watt TDP Because I Don't Want This Full Machine I Wan't Install This Processor On My Asrock Steel Legend B450M Motherboard?
Hi may i ask the original ram is CL22 and 1.2v type? Thanks. I am getting one as well 😆. But i only choose a single dim 16GB and plan to add another one on my own
Thanks! The video was very useful. Would you happen to know if there's any size limitation for the HDD/SSD? I know some small form computers from China seem to top at 2TB. I was wondering if I could add a 4TB 2.5" HDD in this Lenovo. Again, thanks for the video.
Hi, thanks for the video! Quick question, I have the same model and I just upgraded the memory from 8gb to 16 using another Samsung soDIMM 3200mhz but is running in 2600mhz any advice? Thanks one more time
bought the Ryzen 3 3200GE version for just $100, awesome performance on linux. Also love how easily accessible the inside of the fan is to remove fluff.
Thank you, nice guide sir, just got mine today and was trying to figure out where the RAM and M2 was, great demonstration and insight for upgrades.
Thanks for the video. Very informative. Based on what you've shown, I'll pop mine open and double check the configuration, and look at adding secondary storage. I have a WD My Cloud on the network, but getting software to access that is a bit of a nuisance. I was thinking of playing with Plex and related software, and adding secondary storage on-board would be a simple approach with less clutter.
Very informative video, M75q Tiny Gen 2 is quite an attractive model with low price. Renoir really is killing the competition in SFF and laptop market!(only if these are more available and popular) Here I'd like to have some questions:
How's the thermal performance?(temperature and noise during daily usage and/or benchmarks, )
Is there VRAM(UMA) setting in the BIOS?
This should be located in BIOS(press del at power up)=>Config(or Devices)=>Display, called "UMA Frame buffer Size"(or Total Graphics Memory), you should be able to select from Auto up to 2G
Thanks in advance!
The thermal is really ok for my case, I never pass 50 for normal usages and when running multiple VMs it runs to 60 and fan starts to work, it's not loud though :)
Renoir is a good choice too, but in my market its more expensive than thinkpad and also doesn't have ryzen 5 and 7 options.
With one of those m2 graphic adaptors can make this system a great gaming device.
Been using it for 8 months, while consistently programming on dual 4K Monitors. If anyone here does Android DEV, get 32GB Ram ... that's my only concern.
I3 on mine...still good web-browser joined to my 55" Bravia TV.
@08:14 the best part of the video.
Nice catch haha, I just remembered I removed my wisdom teeth a day before shooting this video :-D
Very cool. I saw that you can also update the processor on it.
I also saw on the Lenovo website that it even comes with the Ryzen 7 Pro 4750GE processor
Searching the AMD website I saw the Ryzen 7 Pro 4750G which has practically the same configurations as the 4750GE only with a base clock of 200 Mhz faster.
So, I was wondering if I can upgrade the processor to a 4750G using the same cooler that comes with this mini pc.
The BIOS and most likely the AGESA may be custom built for Lenovo to limit what processors this unit can use. Let alone I don't think the power supply can power the 65W processor. I have many M75q boxes and they use a 35W Ryzen 3 Pro 3200GE.
No, I needs to have the E at the end (Ryzen 7 Pro 4750GE), that means it is a 35W CPU, the limit it can take.
The version ending just in G is a 65W CPU, it will not work and there is a risk to damage the board VRM and will overheat for sure.
I think you need to check the motherboard compatibility (also recommendations ) for your new CPU and if your current motherboard is listed, then you may use. Just my understanding, not sure.
So, i was very surprized to see the board set up to take a PCIe slot, though obviously a custom factory GPU/network card still pretty surprizing, as, so far as i know, only the P320 tiny has a PCIe slot and no M series tinys have them
Very strange, it looks like there are 2x M.2 pin outs but no slot, and no mounting hardware, i wonder what these would be for, did you order yours without WiFi/LTE? Would be dissapointing if they didnt include the slots if you dont order it with the device, because i was planning on adding an M.2 drive along side the HDD
Me pregunto lo mismo. ¿Por qué tiene los pines M.2 x2, pero no hay solts?
Love your vids. It's very helpful.
only one M.2 Slot...
Hi, what GPU does the M75q Gen 2 use? Is it the Radeon 11? I already own a Thinkcentre Tiny M720q and I can say that Lenovo makes excellent computers that are easy to service and they are durable.
It's not specified what architecture the gpu uses. It's assumed to be Vega, but you literally can't find in any place that is not plainly assuming. As for the core count's it depends on what APU you choose. You can search this on google for the core count of the GPU once you choose the APU
I don't know the exact architecture, as @blake Vargas mentioned, it is not specified, and it's a OEM processor, so we don't have much Information. What I can say is I do light gaming on it and video editing and I didn't encounter slightest issue so far.
AMD GCN5 (Vega) , i.e. Radeon RX Vega , the Graphics Core Next (GCN) 5th generation, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radeon_RX_Vega_series#Renoir_(2020)
Thank you!
Is it possible to look into the DASH functions. I would like to know more about that
Thanks!
Can you please take a look at emulation performance in PCSX2 and RPCS3. I'm interested to see how this performs in titles such as Shadow of the Colossus and Skate.
it would depend on the CPU you buy, but GPU related performance is somehow similar to Ryzen 5 3400G and difference would be marginal.
I have a 3400G and a 4650G i will try them both in my M75Q gen2 once it arrives to see if the CPU can be upgraded, though with that tiny heat sink you would probably be limited to "GE" processors or Athlons
I remember someone tried with M75Q Gen1 and it didn't work, let us know if it works in gen2, it would be amazing if it does :)
@@techmo2020
Before any of this i'll be testing the 4750GE in the tiny against the Apple M1 Mac Mini, noticed that my work laptop with 4750u was not only slightly faster in handbrake than the Mac Mini, but the laptop also used ~25% less power to transcode the same video to H265
Seeing as i bought the Mac Mini to transcode to H265 24/7, i was a bit upset given the price over the 8 core tiny, especially sinse it was supposed to be on a 50% more efficient node than Ryzen, let alone being a RISC processor
What were the circumstances of the upgrade? I could understand it not working if they went from a 3400GE to say a 4650G/GE. I'm hoping they didnt have the issue going from a 3200GE to a 3400G, i was hoping to take the 4750GE out and putting it in my portable file server(cant seem to find the GE models on ebay), and throwing the ebay 4650G from my file server into the Tiny, was hoping to have a small gaming rig with the 4650G(for older games), with the higher iGPU frequency and GPU power budget than the GE models, i could use windows power plans to keep the CPU power under 20w and leave the rest for the iGPU
Was hoping to get the idle/peak power usage down on the file server with the 4750GE, with 2 extra cores it will help with the interupts from the dual 40G network card and 16xSSD array, keeping the frequnecy lower by spreading across more cores is key for a long run time on UPS, keeping the temps lower also helps to reduce dust build up in dirty environments.
@@denvera1g1 thanks for info, yeah GE version is meant for manufactors, not retail, I couldn't find it either. Interesting that the performance is better than m1 for that use case. Did u run it natively on m1?
@@techmo2020 Yes, Handbrake currently has M1 support, but it is in beta, so i'm just hoping there is an issue with the beta version
Hey, did you manage to find out if the CPU can be upgraded/changed?
I didn't see you upgrade the RAM.
Would you know if the power brick says 220V besides 110V? Planning to take this to S America
In India This Ryzen 3 Pro 5350GE Not Available In Open and Aftermarket Shops So I want Purchase This Machine.
hows it with autocad? can it handle well?
Don't know about autocad, but no problem with 3Ds max. The GPU is good but weak, keep that in mind
Do you have an Amazon link to that mini tool box that's in the vid? Thanks
hi, i have the same PC. Sometimes it gets to the "Lenovo" logo but then doesn't boot to windows. Any ideas to point me towards?
Sorry not sure about the problem. Does it make some beeping sound? If it does it is telling u the exact error . Maybe there is a problem with boot?
Please Guied Me Can I Change and Downgrade CPU Ryzen 3 Pro 5350GE to Athlon 3000G 35Watt TDP Because I Don't Want This Full Machine I Wan't Install This Processor On My Asrock Steel Legend B450M Motherboard?
How is the noise level?
Hi may i ask the original ram is CL22 and 1.2v type? Thanks. I am getting one as well 😆. But i only choose a single dim 16GB and plan to add another one on my own
Sorry don't have it to check, but google the spec sheet, it will state it there.
this part is not available in my country any other recommendations
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Thanks! The video was very useful.
Would you happen to know if there's any size limitation for the HDD/SSD? I know some small form computers from China seem to top at 2TB. I was wondering if I could add a 4TB 2.5" HDD in this Lenovo. Again, thanks for the video.
Sorry mate, I don't know, mine is 2TB :p
@@techmo2020 so you can put a 2T SSD in the M75q Tiny 2? I didn't notice a big price difference between 1T and 2T
If you could find one you could go much higher say 8 gig as there are no limitations in that regard in any Bios
Hi, thanks for the video! Quick question, I have the same model and I just upgraded the memory from 8gb to 16 using another Samsung soDIMM 3200mhz but is running in 2600mhz any advice? Thanks one more time
that's weird, I just checked and for me, it runs on 3200.
@@techmo2020 my bad, the new one is 2600, I just asked for replacement on Amazon lol they sent me the wrong model
No gpu 😢
Bro there are no nuts in my CPU case
can upgrade the processor?
I don't think so.
Can I Replace CPU To Athlon 3000G 35W TDP
I don't think so, doubt that cpu is replaceable.
can i change to ryzen 3 2200g or 3200g?
I've heard u can't but not 100 percent sure
also can i buy 2 32gb to make it 64 gb in ram ?
no ony up to 32 gb (SODIMM DDR4 de hasta 32 GB)
@@nicolasmasso5970 si hablas español? Ok compre la tarjeta y abri el pc pero ya esta instalado la tarjeta de el otro lado y no cabe alguna idea?
From what i gathered, it can be upgraded to 64gb
Cc