Did a similar upgrade to my T510. i5 to an i7, 8Gb of ram, 1tb ssd - incredible these machines are, still holding over an hour on the original battery. No issue with thermals tho in the t510.
All these companies... "lets be sustainable, the Earth is in trouble." Also these same companies "lets make throw away laptops. cell phones, and electronic devices that can't be fixed or upgraded."
People forget, until post circa 2010, laptops coming with socketed CPU's and ram enabling full upgrades was standard practice across the industry for decades. Now such a thing is sold to you as a gimmick for a much higher price by bespoke companies while the main bulk of producers use vastly cheaper production methods of soldering direct to board, which also ensures the product is destined for landfill much sooner than needed.
2 things about this video impressed me the most. How the laptop looks, it's in amazing condition and the fact that it is a very rare laptop being CPU upgradeable. Cheers
@@SOU6900Sadly it used to be common that laptops are meant to be desktop CPU that is portable so many manufacturers creates mobo that has socketed CPU now its either LGA or BGA the LGA is what replaced PGA it is upradable but doing so is much harder but BGA is where people that solders regularly will be challanged because its soldered directly to the board
@Raykkie There's some companies that still offer laptops with the ability to use a desktop processor. But last I looked they were probably 3000 for a basic setup.
the so-called 32GB support on 2nd and 3rd gen Intel are actually designed for 4-channel memory (means you have to install 4 sticks of 8GB DDR3) so in dual channel (2 slot) you can only go up to 16GB.
@@ashsibebytes4846 if you see a 16GB DDR3 RAM stick online, it is designed for 5th generation Broadwell system (even with U series CPU) because 5th gen is the first gen to support dual-channel 32GB RAM (although Intel page listed 5th gen CPU like i5-5300U only support 16GB, it is tested and it is compatible with 32GB dual channel)
@@trandinhvietdung9357 Mr Tran is there anything you recommend for under $150usd that can be upgraded but run at lower temperatures? also something that can have wifi or bluetooth as it will be a security machine. Currently using an odroid c4 but too slow.
You can probably also upgrade the WiFi card. Lenovo does like to lock the BIOS so it will only accept certain models, but you can usually find modded bioses that remove that. I have several computers that now have 802.11AC and bluetooth where they didn't originally come with that.
I replaced the faulty wifi card in my 2020 ideapad with the old one from my hp laptop and it works perfectly fine, and they are even different brands. The old one was realtek and the current one is intel.
The x240 has a really bad whitelist, which includes blocking replacement generic LCD panels. I did update the wifi and LCD on mine but I had to get a hacked bios first, and flash it with an external flasher.
I don't mean it in a negative way, but your voice made me think of Dankpods. Then you talked about Aussie dollars, then it made sense to me. It's probably the most chill laptop upgrade video I've seen, and it was entertaining to watch.
I have an HP from 2006, the hard drive bracket is interesting because it's an adaptor that adapts in such a way they it allows the hard drive to swing down, with the connector moving down
I rather enjoyed this video. Your voice overs were engaging, I loved the commentary as well. I am a big Thinkpad nut and hope that your machine serves you well.
I find that most business grade/mid range laptops, up to 2014 or so, are upgradable in this fashion. I've done a handful of laptop CPU upgrades myself ranging from a Thinkpad R51 to a more current Dell Vostro 3555.
I've done the exact same thing with an old Toshiba of mine! It came with much worse specs, and the upgrades came with some interesting surprises. It came with a (also 2nd gen) Pentium b950, 4gb ram and a shitty 500gb hdd. I got a 240gb SSD, 16gb of RAM and an i7-2630QM. It accepted all 16gb of ram at the full 1600mt/s surprisingly. The laptop was only supposed to be able to use ram up to 1333. My temperatures never exceed 70C with the new cpu even though it's much more powerful
Still using my 10 year old Toshiba Satellite daily which I have boosted with i5-3210m and another 4 gigs (8gb) of ram and SSD. Can't see why it wouldn't serve me another 10 years
An upgrade i would suggest (even more if you're going with a higher tdp cpu) is the heatsink one. I can see in your pcb that your laptop has a model wich has discrete graphics. The heatsink from the discrete graphics version has more mass and more thermal capacity, probably enough to be fine with your 45w processor and temps be just as before.
@@Callagwhan That makes absolutely no sense lol, he needs to take the heat out of the computer, not into the cooler lmao… I’d say that the only way to do this would be to get a larger heat sink, make one yourself with larger/more heat pipes, and change the fan to a faster one.
@@Callagwhan i dont recommend it because of 2 reasons: 1. for a beginner is a big no no. If you dont apply it correctly, you can have the chance to kill the entire system. LM applying not easy, like using thermal paste and squish its with the coldplade. 2. for a 45W CPU is an absoulte wasted money. Those laptops are using the bare minimum cooling system which is required by the CPU. For a 35W CPU the manufacturer wont install higher TDP cooling, so u need to replace the cooling system with the CPU.
Bought an older 2011 Lenovo AIO B520e 3111 for $125, swapped out the i5 2400s ( 4 core 4 thread 65watt ) to a 2600 ( 4 core 8 thread 95watt ) 16gb ( 2x8 )of DDR3 1600mhz Kingston ram from the single 4gb stick ( forgot what brand ), swapped out the single fan + cooler to the larger cooler with dual fans, intel 8265 wifi card ( 2.4 144mbps and 5G which I haven't tried so I don't know the speed and don't really seem to need to but nice to have ) from the old Realtek ( forgot the model but 2.4 at something like 78mbps and no 5G ). The older guy I got it from already did an SSD in it and windows 10, for an older system with only PCIE 2.0 and second gen intel it's pretty quick ( 10 - 11 seconds from boot up to desktop ), and everything works, mostly only used for just browsing / watching RUclips and to do school projects ( bought it for the kid, also I wanted a little project we could do ), not bad for $200 total investment with some genuine Lenovo parts / aftermarket ram / CPU swap, with all that and MX-6 paste it stays quite cool. Gaming though, I don't know or even tried but might ( keyword ) be able to do some very light gaming ( like Rocket League for an example, maybe ?! 🤷🏻♂️ ), but that's what my MSI Delta 15 is for, probably build a tower if I can find the time / space / cash to burn and if we need another project.
"Never got above 97 C" Yeah It shouldn't really pass the 80-85 degree mark. You could try undervolting the CPU so that it doesn't generate as much heat and preserve battery life.
@@pugical By locked, mean locked from overclock, only some gaming laptops are business model can allow overclock and voltage modification out of the box.
The idea of measuring thermal paste performance by thermal conductivity alone is also flawed. The thinner the thermal paste the more it will spread out, thus have less thermal paste the heat needs to travel through. If I am not mistaken the arctic mx4 is an example of a paste that is not exceptionally conducted but makes up by being very thin.
@@jaynayk1176 Agreed on your first point but not sure I follow on the second point. IMO, especially for direct die cooling, one of the more important factors is viscosity. Pastes with lower viscosity tend to "pump out" under load leaving bare die to heatsink contact. Higher viscosity pastes better resist the pump out effect and tend to have higher longevity. For budget pastes, I love Ceramique 2. It's dirt cheap, performs with a few degrees of most pastes, and there's zero chance it is pumping out. On the more expensive side, I also like Gelid GC Extreme, Prolimatech Pk3 and Tuniq TX4. MX4 is ok (definitely great for normal heatsink use) but not my preferred choice for direct die cooling like this.
Damn. I actually have a similar laptop! Mine is the first-gen Edge 15. I kept the OG i3 380M, but added 8GB RAM, and a 256GB SSD. It got me through high school when I got it in 2019, and it is still a powerhouse.
Older HP Elitebooks had a lot of upgradeability too (relatively speaking) as they had MXM form factor dedicated GPU's that could be swapped out. Good luck finding much that will work as HP likes to blacklist stuff in BIOS updates but it's nice to know that it's replaceable at the very least.
@@NumbDiggers1998 this is why I only buy their Ex-business laptops. You can get them pretty cheaply as well. I recently picked up an Elitebook 830 G5 for very little money and upgraded the SSD, Ram and Wifi card. SSD was new off amazon as was the ram (32GB) but I could have gone with another 8GB module off the secondhand market to make 16GB which would have saved me a huge chunk of cash. The wifi card was second hand that was pulled from another HP laptop but it supports Wifi 6 and BT5.2 which the old one didnt. Other than maybe putting in a 2 or 4TB SSD. I dont think this 830 can be upgraded further. They can be good laptops. But only at the right price... For me it was $200. My upgrades cost me $140 but you CAN do it as cheap as $100-110. Mine ended up being $140 because the store i bought 8GB ram from sent me an 8GB desktop module then I got pissed at them for making me wait 3hrs for a refund when i hadnt even taken it out of the packaging. So I spent 7x the amount elsewhere rather than buying from them again out of spite. Dont be like me. Being angry can lose you a lot of money.
Also, the whole MXM thing never really took off a lot of manfacturers did use the MXM standard but that was very short lived and was never made available for retail commercially. You'd have to contact your laptop manufacturer for one or the OEM manufacturer themselves to ask if you could buy one from them directly and 99% of the time the cost of one didnt make sense finanially because they cost well over the odds vs the cards original desktop counterpart. Some people had luck sourcing cheaper units pulled out of working or laptops on ebay but even those often went for silly money for what they were and the bioses on them had to be compatible with the laptops bios. There was a lot of hardware blacklisting going on as you know so getting an MXM was never guaranteed to work if it didnt have the correct OEM bios.
FYI, you can always use faster memory with a CPU that only supports slower memory. E.g. if you got DDR3 1600 it would work with the i5 no problem, it would just run at 1333.
@@Cedalus not always. If the faster kit has no profile for the slower speed it might fall back to very slow JEDEC standards. Same if the manufacturer didn't bother to tune the lower speed profiles.
That is a sweet Lenovo laptop for heavy office work. I would probably trade my current Macbook Pro for what you have done there wow. However, that 97 degrees C is concerning. I would try then to get like HWInfo or something and crank the fan speed up....
I would have used a 2.5" sata case that can hold an ssd to put in a 2.5" 1TB SATA SSD. An SSD would have been the biggest upgrade in speed. Then I would put Linux and use the laptop another 3-4 years. I had a T410 on which I did RAM and SSD upgrade and used until last year for my Linux experiment and distro-hopping. This year I bought a T480 to continue my Linux experiment. I plant to upgrade the screen to 1440p in this.
I have a laptop like this. It already has the best factory CPU option (an i7-3720QM), 16 GB of ram, and it's been upgraded to a 500 GB SSD. It also has a soldered Nvidia NVS 5200M gpu. It's nothing much, and it's really made for CAD, but it can handle some light gaming if I ever have a reason to game on the go. I'm not sure how much higher it can go regarding CPU, but I also don't think it needs an upgrade.
*Couldn't agree more* As a technician, i have sold more than a dozen of these per year. Compact Sturdy Available spares And SSD ram upgrade makes it faster
Did a cpu upgrade on my t420 a while back. Put in the same 2760qm and let me say. On of the best laptops I have used. I does everything I need it to without complaint or fuss.
I had an old Vaio that i performed all kinds of mods on, the final one was an "upgrade" from an i5 to an i7.... saying that it wasnt designed to operate that that power draw/ thermal load would be an understatement.... it was already struggling as is, to the point i had to cut out the plastic from behind the fan to allow for improved ventilation. With 70 Celsius under full load 16gb of ram and an ssd the only thing remaining was a cpu transplantation... Frankenstein posted and booted but quickly overheated and fried something... the cpu and ram were still functional but the Vaio's mobo was dead in the name of science
Typing this from corebooted T420 with i7-3635QM Ivy bridge, maxxed ram and Intel AC wifi. Really can't complain at all, bought it 7 years ago for around 250$ and it still keeps up with the mods I have done.
The upgradability of older laptops is unmatched. Your laptop would most definitely have accepted a 3rd gen processor and the extra GBs of faster RAM too btw! As some others have mentioned, you can also flash custom BIOS's to circumvent Hardware restrictions that Lenovo may have implemented. From the Motherboard layout, it almost looks like certain models of that laptop might have had Dedicated GPU's installed. If they did, I guess the next upgrade is to find a model that has one, and swapping the good hardware into it too Thermal paste application: Hilarious/10 Build overall 9.5/10
Great upgrades ! The CPU you chose can not be sufficiently cooled down by a tiny single heatsink with one exhaust fan . Also I am sure 16GB of RAM can not be utilized because of the GPU . All hardware must be somewhat equal in order not to bottleneck anything . I have sony vaio vpceh28FA since new . I have the same HM65 chipset as you Intel core i5 2430M and nvidia 410 512MB . Sony claims 8GB RAM max , but I know 16GB will work . My heatsink cools CPU , GPU and the chipset . There is no way this could cool down a 4 core i7 without burning the surface I lay my laptop on . My view is just be reasonable within logic limits . Awesome video . I have my laptop since new 2011 . It is my secondary/backup laptop . Great video ! I loved it . (I don’t mention anything about the thermal paste application, you know you used too much ) . 😝😆👌🏼
Im typing this on an old ass HP EliteBook that has the ability for me to upgrade my CPU and honestly, Laptops NEED THIS. No more unupgradable laptops. I hate seeing so many people get locked down for years because they dont want to get rid of their laptop but their laptop gets slower and slower as the days go on.
You could have cleaned the fan... Also, that cpu was already not locked into the socket when you opened it. You could use a flat screwdriver to rotate the black thing to lock the cpu in place.
I was waiting until the end of the video to see if he would do that in the end. I even thought he had it in mind when he mentioned that even the fan could be disassembled, as it has screws.
I still have my previous laptop in my closet. It was a very reliable and dependable laptop. It was an Acer with a AMD Athlon x2 cpu originally, but I eventually upgraded the CPU to the best that the motherboard could support, with 4 cores! I had also maxed out its DDR(1) RAM and even installed a larger, faster hard drive, as well as a second hard drive for even more storage. She also had a discrete NVIDIA GPU with 512mb of memory
I used a very similar laptop, a hp ProBook 4430s with a i5-2430M. Right under the clu and left of the WiFi card is the igpu. Yours have a good heatsink but my one just had a thick plate, 1.5 mm thick. I replaced it with a heatsink for a raspberry pi 4 and it helped a lot with games. Just replacing the stock thermal pad with thermal paste should help a ton to increase the performance of hd3000
did you make sure you discharged yourself before touching that body static and fabrics with static will kill laptop memory and cpus or a motherboard rubing fingers all over it if the environments extremally dry and cold
i7-4700MQ is the one i have in a lenovo laptop and it roughtly matches a desktop i7-3770 CPU. Ridiculously efficient, same perfomance at half the power consumption.
By browsing the second-hand market you can get much cheaper memory from someone who just wants to get rid of their hardware. Also fantastic choice of SSD! Fun fact: Thermal conductivity is not the be-all-and-end-all of thermal paste quality. For example, Noctua's thermal pastes (which are some of the best on the market) have an extremely low thermal conductivity in comparison to their competitors. The reason they don't list this information publicly is because people will see that number and think "wow that's bad" instead of looking at real world performance.
Can't let go of my E320. basically run 24/7 for over a decade. CrYou just made me realise i probably need to renew the thermal paste as she's been getting hot lately, even with the fan set to max with TP Fan Control. Crazy how they completely understated the upgrade possibilities of this machine, it came with a SATA2 SSD and the specs don't say it supports SATA3, but of course.. it does
I'd be really impressed if you could populate that GPU socket and all the empty VRAM slots on that board. Would need some bios programming probably. But it'd be interesting to know what all they left off the board for their low-end Thinkpads. But instead of buying a new battery, you should take advantage of the fact that the battery uses a series of standard lithium 18650 rechargeable battery cells. There are ways of bringing them back to life and they can be had for cheap in old DrillDriver batteries and stuff like that.
You could get away with using an i7 2860qm however they do tend to be more expensive than the one you picked and while an XM model would work it is to be avoided as they run 10w hotter. It is often cheaper sometimes to just harvest that cpu from a dead or broken machine than to buy it alone. Personally I would have preferred a version of this machine with a gpu for craps and giggles but that is just me. As for upgrades go nothing beats the high end Dell Precision line aside from a few Alienware models as well some very rare Clevo/Sager and Eurocom as the bees' knees as far as laptops go from that era.
They don't do this because the rest of the system is not really upgradeable. Might as well just replace the whole thing at that point, because unless there's a GPU onboard, the rest of the parts don't cost that much more than the CPU, and if there is a GPU, it's even more impossible, because GPUs just aren't made to be socketable anymore. That said, there are folks like Framework that will sell replacement boards so you can just swap out the internals and keep the chassis.
Something that could help with temps might be to try and find the cooler that is for the model with the GPU. It will likely have an extra heat pipe or a bigger one, and it'll generally offer a higher thermal mass.
Random rambling here: -Ram speed isn't that important on DDR3. -You can try a modded bios to use third gen chips but I don't blame you taking the safe route. -That heatsink wasn't really designed for that die, apparently (only square dies). Maybe a copper shim to the chassis would've helped. -Don't push on the thermal paste applicators, just gently spread it around, let the rest squish with the heatsink. -I've never heard of that thermal paste brand, honestly the cheap Arctic MX4 or MX5 would've worked just as good. -Making the intake hole bigger would probably help the temps further, but may not look as good. -You could've upgraded the WLAN card as well. -Barrel plugs are superior to Type C
Nice upgrade! I upgraded my Dell Latitude E6540 from a lame dual core i7 4610M to the 2nd to the top of the line i7 4810MQ 16GB ram and MSATA SSD in an available PCIM slot. I noticed this Lenovo also has an available slot too, but may not need it for additional storage now with a 2TB SSD😮 you can use it for an external GPU dock live I've also done with my Latitude. This baby can run Cyberpunk😂
Thats awesome, how do you upgrade to 16gb ram? My laptop Toshiba satellite a500 can have max 8gb ram so how I can upgrade the RAM to 16GB?? And I also upgrade the cpu??
I miss these days of laptop upgradability! Just gotta make sure you get a cpu that works in that socket and has a TDP close to the one it shiped with (or you can look into other models of the same laptop with more powerful cpu and check their thermal solution to see if you also need to upgrade yours or not). I spoke to a guy who was in IT for 20 years and he argued with me that he has NEVER seen a laptops with a socketed cpu. Just found that ironic
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Nice video, nice laptop, my hole nervous system cringed when i saw the amount of thermal paste applied.
A lot of people don't know this to be honest. I used to upgrade laptop CPUs all the time. I would buy older i3 laptops and then buy the i7s to put in them as long as they had IGPUs on them. Cuz it always turned out that the i7 model of that laptop was way more expensive than just buying the laptop in the CPU
You also have an mSATA port, you can add storage in that, depending on the key. i had a thinkpad that had an mSATA and i used the mSATA to run linux, with my main drive running windows 10
Until two months ago, my "daily driver" was a W520. Bought new for more than 2000 Euros, it served me well for 11 years. Quadcore I7, 32 GB RAM, 2x1TB SSD, Full HD... but not capable anymore to do all the stuff I need. Now: refurbished P53 6 core, upgraded to the max: 128GB RAM, 2x2TB SSD2 Nvme, 8k display, Thunderbird docking station. I hope it will be as sturdy as the W520.
I think that's what a lot of people don't realize with very expensive systems, they can last for a very long time. But many modern expensive systems can't even last that long which is sad
@@couchpotato7750 Nothing. "Modern" software needs more and more clock cycles and features to work. Eg. backgrounds in Teams meetings, Outlook, Windows itself.... Then, our databases grow every day, and testing with a copy of the live db became sluggish. Unfortunately, I need that for my work.
All xx20 and xx30 thinkpads support 8gb ddr3 per slot so 16GB will be the max for this machine The W520 and W530 can do 32gb thanks to having 4 ram sockets, but it requires a quad core cpu to utilize
Thats awesome, how do you upgrade to 16gb ram? My laptop Toshiba satellite a500 can have max 8gb ram so how I can upgrade the RAM to 16GB?? And I also upgrade the cpu??
Great video! I had an old i3-3110M in my HP as my first laptop, I always wondered if ilI could upgrade it as it had the same style socket. I later just upgraded to another laptop, but it’s great to see you reusing old tech rather than seeing it thrown in e-waste.
Hey Matt, i had the same i3 in my old Lenovo G480 and indeed you can upgrade it to an i7-3610qm for example, the caveat is that the CPU doesn't turbo, it stays at a maximum 2.3 GHz because the Motherboard doesn't have the power delivery to fully push the cpu to its turbo clock speed. Despite that, the cpu retained about 85-90% of its performance and bc it only runs at 70% of it maximum clock speed it actually runs cooler (and the fan runs quieter) than the i3 that was before while crushing it in every task with it's 4 cores.
@@Larroseba that’s fascinating, I actually assumed the cooler would constantly get overwhelmed, but what you said makes complete sense. The quad core i7 is likely more power efficient as it is at less utilization than the i3 would have been at completing the same task. May I ask, was it a pricy upgrade?
@@mattsmotorcycle In my case it was a free upgrade, a gift from a friend of mine that his asus motherboard fried some time ago and discovered that his cpu was actually socketed. But on eBay they actually go from $38 to $60 USD
You are going to want to upgrade your laptop charger with a higher watt output to make up for the TDP of the CPU. Ive upgraded a HP AIO touchsmart 600 that the i7 TDP exceeded the board specs andit requires a larger power brick but runs just fine. Ive also upgraded a dell vostro 1720 with a higher TDP cpu and had upgrade the charger brick from 65watt to 90watt. Eventually it will kill the battery and also the boards run hotter so it needs to be offset with higher wattage power bricks.
It looks like that laptop motherboard has a place for a GPU which means you could probably get a cooler from a model that had one, that would definitely be something to look into since you upgraded the cpu to a higher tdp model
Bro it’s a dream for me to upgrade the cpu of a laptop. Seriously laptops should have more upgradability to their hardware since it can be obsolete in a few years. Also this is the main reason I sold my gaming laptop and built my own pc since a pc is more upgradable.
You could add thermal pad onto chipset and charging coil to potentially stop the shutdown with heavy use.. they are probably the things getting hottest and causing shutdown.
O for the reason it’s overheating is cuz the copper part of the cooler doesn’t fully cover the entire die. But I doubt Lenovo actually sells a right one, might be lucky if you get a 3gen cpu with a smaller die size
You make it look so easy to upgrade a notebook cpu and ram, but you entirely skipped over the hours of reading chipset documentation of the HM65 express, the cpu documentation...! When I did this with an Acer 5683wlmi, a Samsung Np55 and an HP 8470p, first rule of thumb, gather info on all variants the model was sold. Chances are high, that same model was sold with at least five different cpu versions, ranging from low tier to highend. Second rule of thumb, find out the name of that mobile mpga socket, go to cpu world and look at all cpus made for that socket. If a wanted cpu on cpu world listing was actually a stock buying option for the model in question, you're golden. If wanted cpu was never sold with that model, it gets tricky and heavy on reading. First of all, does the chipset support single, dual or quads? Does it support cpus with higher fsb? Does it support different stepping? Does it support power hungrier cpus/can the heatsink manage that cpu? And one uncertainty always stays, does the bios like a cpu with a possibly newer micro code, has the bios a whitelist embedded? With, ram, it can be even more tricky, cpu documentation is not always 100% clear if f.e. sodimm dd3, dd3l or dd3ul, if 1rank or 2rank, and how big one single memory chip can be, 256mB, 512mB or 1gB. From guessing the ddr3 module you installed had 8 modules per side, 2ranks, 8GB total capacity, thats 512mB per device. Now I can't remember what the sandy bridge mobile documentation exactly said regarding size per dram device but bigger than 512 by 8 by 2 isn't probably going to work. Maybe it supports 1024 by 4 by 2, but that would be the same total capacity per dimm bank. Either you were totally lucky or you just intentionally cut out all the research steps with only a sliver mentioning, go to cpu upgrade and you're good. That's not how this works with notebooks.
Another upgrade you could do is to remove the dvd tray and replace it with a hdd adapter so you can add another hdd/ssd for even more storage, I did that on my elitebook since I don't realy use the dvd tray anymore
If you want to help cooling your cpu you can search online for same dimensions (or slightely bigger if there is space) fan that spin higher. Did taht upgrade to my gaming laptop and managed to help it.
I wish laptops went back to this cuz I repaired some laptops and it was a nightmare but the older thinkpads are so much easier just like this one I really wish they would go back to this design. 😭
Nice work! I have an observation; were those 'right-angle' markings on the underside of the heatsink raised? If so, you're not going to get any real contact between the die and the cpu. I'm hoping those were just marks though!
Some correction of misconceptions about thermal pastes (according to some guy who works on thermal pastes that I saw on youtube): -thermal conductivity rating of thermal paste is basically a scam and has nothing to do with how well the paste performs - the pressure between the dye and heat sink is usually very high and there's no way bubbles could form between or anything like that. basically there's no need to spread it carefully and thin because it all gets squeezed and evenly distributed anyway (which i totally did on my laptop cuz it has to be perfect and i guess it wasn't in the end), unless you put too little. If you put too much, you're ok if the paste doesn't conduct electricity. -for laptops it is advisable to use thicker thermal pastes because laptops run at relatively high temps which squeezes the paste out much faster than it would on a well cooled desktop for example. Thin pastes usually perform better by default but the pump out effect on laptops can make it 'degrade' in a matter of months and it will then perform worse that a thicc paste.
I remember my dad purchasing a bunch of these things close to like 2010 and installing linux on them all and giving them to each of us 6 kids. Never really liked linux as a kid as our main stations all had windows 10 so I was always trying to run things through wine and never could.
hell yes!, i love upgradable laptops, huge shame their soo rare nowadays. i had a toshiba techra r700, 250gb hdd, 4gb single chanel, i5-460m, upgraded it to 8gb duel chanel, 500gb ssd, and an i7-640m, HUGE upgrade, but unfortounatly still a duel core cpu so still wasnt good by modern standards. that laptop relied on cpu graphics... the QM cpus for that socket didnt have integrated graphics so had to get a boring duel core.
Small little thing to note - more thermal paste =/= better. At some point it inadvertantly causes more heat and less preformance by drawing so much heat it keeps the cpu from doing its transfers.
The only reason why my lenovo is still running is its serviceability. The cpu is technically upgradable but not as easy as a socket and I went for the best one you could get at the time. I've replaced the hard drive twice now to an ssd and I've upped the ram too. Changed the fan as well but cheap Chinese thing went out quick
High quality (reusable) graphite pads are also a good solution. That is all I use now. I just put a couple thermal pads on the CPU & GPU of my new NUCX17.
I recently upgraded my little old Asus U24 with i7-3610QM, 16G ram, and 512G SSD for less than $80. It's now a very capable little laptop. While GPU is not upgradable, for everyday work use and music recording, it's quite good for something that's 12 years old😅.
Switching from regular thermal paste to liquid metal will help a lot, especially on direct die application. I've also found out that by putting the laptop on a side and making it rest with the cooler blowing hot air upwards cpu temps are even 30°C lower. It does come handy during extensive rendering sessions but of course it's not very easy to use placed this way haha.
@@OKuusava You need to pay extra attention when you apply this thing. The safest way is to cover the surrounding area with tape. Even Sony uses it with the PS5.
That’s a terrible idea, for many reasons, not the least of which…did you see his thermal paste application? That he didn’t disconnect the battery? Bless him, but there’s no way after seeing that, that you should recommend Liquid Metal. Esp on a laptop like this. All it takes is a tiny amount to unalive the poor laptop, and for what? Just use PTM7950.
My Dell Latitude is similar. It came with 4GB DDR3 and a 2410m. It also currently has a faulty 320GB mechanical drive. I'm going to keep the current hardware and use it to host a 3D print server for Octoprint failure detection.
Lol the OCD with the thermal paste . I feel your pain
that was too much paste! must redo
Upgrading the cpu in a laptop in is a fantasy!! i really miss the days where you could repair and upgrade almost everything you bought.
i thought this year was ?
@@MysteriousEthanwasn't it ?
Maybe consider a Framework?
@@ericmintz8305 Framework aren't socketed either.. gotta get a whole new motherboard unit to change cpu
@@ferdgerbeler8494 my mistake. You probably deduced that I am a fan. Be well.
Did a similar upgrade to my T510. i5 to an i7, 8Gb of ram, 1tb ssd - incredible these machines are, still holding over an hour on the original battery. No issue with thermals tho in the t510.
I have a Dell Inspiron 5100 from 2003 and the battery still works
As soon as I unplugged the laptop and say it was still running I was just amazed
I'm not so fortunate on my Dell Latitude's battery situation. It lasts about 20 minutes at idle and about one minute under load.
@@ajhauter5049 time to buy a new old stock one
@@probablynotdad6553 I never use the thing. I built a desktop in August and it does everything I did with the laptop better.
we've come a long way efficiency wise 😂
Really nice video, one tip I would give you is remove the battery before doing any upgrades
Yep that would be a great idea. I wish I was there to tell myself that at the time.
Remove the battery AND press the power button to make sure capacitors are totally discharged
@@ashsibebytes4846they also sell replacement CMOS battery’s too. That would be nice. Usually good to replace them about every 5 years or so
@@elfedorausado caps on laptops usually don't hold a charge for long after removing battery but still not a bad idea.
@@ethanv8147 it's not probable, but not impossible
All these companies... "lets be sustainable, the Earth is in trouble." Also these same companies "lets make throw away laptops. cell phones, and electronic devices that can't be fixed or upgraded."
unfortunately lenovo became what they swore to destroy
@@jan5504 Noooooot! Really on their ThinkPad 2024 T Series
@@jan5504 common bruhv a man need to make money if the purchases of laptops went low they screwed
@@jan5504 It's more of an Intel+AMD issue
The sustainability movement is a lie. They don't care about making better products, only about looking good and making more money.
People forget, until post circa 2010, laptops coming with socketed CPU's and ram enabling full upgrades was standard practice across the industry for decades. Now such a thing is sold to you as a gimmick for a much higher price by bespoke companies while the main bulk of producers use vastly cheaper production methods of soldering direct to board, which also ensures the product is destined for landfill much sooner than needed.
I mean my framework 13 was hardly more expensive than a comparably spec'ed laptop and I've been loving it so far
2 things about this video impressed me the most. How the laptop looks, it's in amazing condition and the fact that it is a very rare laptop being CPU upgradeable. Cheers
I personally think a laptop with an upgradable processor isn't so much rare as it is uncommon.
Almost all core i3/5/7 M laptop back then were CPU-upgradable
@@SOU6900 I wouldn't say uncommon given they were common before like 2015-2016 but became non-existant overnight
@@SOU6900Sadly it used to be common that laptops are meant to be desktop CPU that is portable so many manufacturers creates mobo that has socketed CPU now its either LGA or BGA the LGA is what replaced PGA it is upradable but doing so is much harder but BGA is where people that solders regularly will be challanged because its soldered directly to the board
@Raykkie There's some companies that still offer laptops with the ability to use a desktop processor. But last I looked they were probably 3000 for a basic setup.
the so-called 32GB support on 2nd and 3rd gen Intel are actually designed for 4-channel memory (means you have to install 4 sticks of 8GB DDR3) so in dual channel (2 slot) you can only go up to 16GB.
Very helpful thank you
@@ashsibebytes4846 if you see a 16GB DDR3 RAM stick online, it is designed for 5th generation Broadwell system (even with U series CPU) because 5th gen is the first gen to support dual-channel 32GB RAM (although Intel page listed 5th gen CPU like i5-5300U only support 16GB, it is tested and it is compatible with 32GB dual channel)
@@trandinhvietdung9357 Mr Tran is there anything you recommend for under $150usd that can be upgraded but run at lower temperatures? also something that can have wifi or bluetooth as it will be a security machine. Currently using an odroid c4 but too slow.
You are mostly right but none of those CPUs have 4-channel memory. It's just dual channel with two sticks per channel
@@Pasi123 ah yeah, thanks for your clarification
You can probably also upgrade the WiFi card. Lenovo does like to lock the BIOS so it will only accept certain models, but you can usually find modded bioses that remove that. I have several computers that now have 802.11AC and bluetooth where they didn't originally come with that.
Excellent to know, thank you
I replaced the faulty wifi card in my 2020 ideapad with the old one from my hp laptop and it works perfectly fine, and they are even different brands. The old one was realtek and the current one is intel.
@@lance_374 I have always preferred intel cards (except for their drivers lol they really like to not give downloads)
@@lance_374 you most likely got lucky with that part already being on the whitelist.
The x240 has a really bad whitelist, which includes blocking replacement generic LCD panels. I did update the wifi and LCD on mine but I had to get a hacked bios first, and flash it with an external flasher.
I don't mean it in a negative way, but your voice made me think of Dankpods.
Then you talked about Aussie dollars, then it made sense to me.
It's probably the most chill laptop upgrade video I've seen, and it was entertaining to watch.
I have an HP from 2006, the hard drive bracket is interesting because it's an adaptor that adapts in such a way they it allows the hard drive to swing down, with the connector moving down
I rather enjoyed this video. Your voice overs were engaging, I loved the commentary as well. I am a big Thinkpad nut and hope that your machine serves you well.
I find that most business grade/mid range laptops, up to 2014 or so, are upgradable in this fashion. I've done a handful of laptop CPU upgrades myself ranging from a Thinkpad R51 to a more current Dell Vostro 3555.
I've done the exact same thing with an old Toshiba of mine! It came with much worse specs, and the upgrades came with some interesting surprises. It came with a (also 2nd gen) Pentium b950, 4gb ram and a shitty 500gb hdd. I got a 240gb SSD, 16gb of RAM and an i7-2630QM. It accepted all 16gb of ram at the full 1600mt/s surprisingly. The laptop was only supposed to be able to use ram up to 1333. My temperatures never exceed 70C with the new cpu even though it's much more powerful
Still using my 10 year old Toshiba Satellite daily which I have boosted with i5-3210m and another 4 gigs (8gb) of ram and SSD. Can't see why it wouldn't serve me another 10 years
An upgrade i would suggest (even more if you're going with a higher tdp cpu) is the heatsink one. I can see in your pcb that your laptop has a model wich has discrete graphics.
The heatsink from the discrete graphics version has more mass and more thermal capacity, probably enough to be fine with your 45w processor and temps be just as before.
Did that with my Dell, still wasnt enough.
Am planning on installing some copper plates through the heatsink. Got any tips?
Liquid metal
@@Callagwhan That makes absolutely no sense lol, he needs to take the heat out of the computer, not into the cooler lmao…
I’d say that the only way to do this would be to get a larger heat sink, make one yourself with larger/more heat pipes, and change the fan to a faster one.
@@Callagwhan i dont recommend it because of 2 reasons:
1. for a beginner is a big no no. If you dont apply it correctly, you can have the chance to kill the entire system. LM applying not easy, like using thermal paste and squish its with the coldplade.
2. for a 45W CPU is an absoulte wasted money. Those laptops are using the bare minimum cooling system which is required by the CPU. For a 35W CPU the manufacturer wont install higher TDP cooling, so u need to replace the cooling system with the CPU.
@@SummonerArthur buy a heatpipes and stick it to the original heatpipes with thermally conductive glue there are many products online.
Bought an older 2011 Lenovo AIO B520e 3111 for $125, swapped out the i5 2400s ( 4 core 4 thread 65watt ) to a 2600 ( 4 core 8 thread 95watt ) 16gb ( 2x8 )of DDR3 1600mhz Kingston ram from the single 4gb stick ( forgot what brand ), swapped out the single fan + cooler to the larger cooler with dual fans, intel 8265 wifi card ( 2.4 144mbps and 5G which I haven't tried so I don't know the speed and don't really seem to need to but nice to have ) from the old Realtek ( forgot the model but 2.4 at something like 78mbps and no 5G ). The older guy I got it from already did an SSD in it and windows 10, for an older system with only PCIE 2.0 and second gen intel it's pretty quick ( 10 - 11 seconds from boot up to desktop ), and everything works, mostly only used for just browsing / watching RUclips and to do school projects ( bought it for the kid, also I wanted a little project we could do ), not bad for $200 total investment with some genuine Lenovo parts / aftermarket ram / CPU swap, with all that and MX-6 paste it stays quite cool. Gaming though, I don't know or even tried but might ( keyword ) be able to do some very light gaming ( like Rocket League for an example, maybe ?! 🤷🏻♂️ ), but that's what my MSI Delta 15 is for, probably build a tower if I can find the time / space / cash to burn and if we need another project.
"Never got above 97 C" Yeah It shouldn't really pass the 80-85 degree mark. You could try undervolting the CPU so that it doesn't generate as much heat and preserve battery life.
Usually unless it is a gaming laptop the bios will be locked. Some people had made custom bios files to unlock them, but those are rare exceptions.
@@DarkGTLmao what? Most laptops don't have locked BIOSes... The only ones that are locked are likely ones from workplaces or schools
@@pugical By locked, mean locked from overclock, only some gaming laptops are business model can allow overclock and voltage modification out of the box.
Worst thermal paste application I think I've ever seen! 🤣🤣🤣
Same... And then I filmed it for all the world to see
@@ashsibebytes4846 🤣😂😁 We've all been there!
The idea of measuring thermal paste performance by thermal conductivity alone is also flawed. The thinner the thermal paste the more it will spread out, thus have less thermal paste the heat needs to travel through. If I am not mistaken the arctic mx4 is an example of a paste that is not exceptionally conducted but makes up by being very thin.
@@jaynayk1176 Agreed on your first point but not sure I follow on the second point. IMO, especially for direct die cooling, one of the more important factors is viscosity. Pastes with lower viscosity tend to "pump out" under load leaving bare die to heatsink contact. Higher viscosity pastes better resist the pump out effect and tend to have higher longevity. For budget pastes, I love Ceramique 2. It's dirt cheap, performs with a few degrees of most pastes, and there's zero chance it is pumping out. On the more expensive side, I also like Gelid GC Extreme, Prolimatech Pk3 and Tuniq TX4. MX4 is ok (definitely great for normal heatsink use) but not my preferred choice for direct die cooling like this.
I've seen worse lol the fact that he ended up putting a blob probably saved it though, or else I would have agreed haha great content
before doing anything on the board, first remove the battery..
Damn. I actually have a similar laptop! Mine is the first-gen Edge 15. I kept the OG i3 380M, but added 8GB RAM, and a 256GB SSD. It got me through high school when I got it in 2019, and it is still a powerhouse.
Older HP Elitebooks had a lot of upgradeability too (relatively speaking) as they had MXM form factor dedicated GPU's that could be swapped out. Good luck finding much that will work as HP likes to blacklist stuff in BIOS updates but it's nice to know that it's replaceable at the very least.
No shit, HP also blacklists any WiFi modules that isn't theirs so you have to pay them for hardware update
@@NumbDiggers1998 this is why I only buy their Ex-business laptops. You can get them pretty cheaply as well. I recently picked up an Elitebook 830 G5 for very little money and upgraded the SSD, Ram and Wifi card. SSD was new off amazon as was the ram (32GB) but I could have gone with another 8GB module off the secondhand market to make 16GB which would have saved me a huge chunk of cash. The wifi card was second hand that was pulled from another HP laptop but it supports Wifi 6 and BT5.2 which the old one didnt.
Other than maybe putting in a 2 or 4TB SSD. I dont think this 830 can be upgraded further. They can be good laptops. But only at the right price... For me it was $200. My upgrades cost me $140 but you CAN do it as cheap as $100-110. Mine ended up being $140 because the store i bought 8GB ram from sent me an 8GB desktop module then I got pissed at them for making me wait 3hrs for a refund when i hadnt even taken it out of the packaging. So I spent 7x the amount elsewhere rather than buying from them again out of spite.
Dont be like me. Being angry can lose you a lot of money.
Also, the whole MXM thing never really took off a lot of manfacturers did use the MXM standard but that was very short lived and was never made available for retail commercially. You'd have to contact your laptop manufacturer for one or the OEM manufacturer themselves to ask if you could buy one from them directly and 99% of the time the cost of one didnt make sense finanially because they cost well over the odds vs the cards original desktop counterpart.
Some people had luck sourcing cheaper units pulled out of working or laptops on ebay but even those often went for silly money for what they were and the bioses on them had to be compatible with the laptops bios. There was a lot of hardware blacklisting going on as you know so getting an MXM was never guaranteed to work if it didnt have the correct OEM bios.
FYI, you can always use faster memory with a CPU that only supports slower memory. E.g. if you got DDR3 1600 it would work with the i5 no problem, it would just run at 1333.
@@sushantmehta6269 it will, because the 1600mhz memory will run at 1333mhz.
@@sushantmehta6269 have you ever tried this? Because I know from experience it's fine to use faster than supported memory.
Chances are you'll get tighter memory timings with a higher rated ram kit too even if you can't get faster clock
@@Cedalus not always. If the faster kit has no profile for the slower speed it might fall back to very slow JEDEC standards. Same if the manufacturer didn't bother to tune the lower speed profiles.
That is a sweet Lenovo laptop for heavy office work. I would probably trade my current Macbook Pro for what you have done there wow. However, that 97 degrees C is concerning. I would try then to get like HWInfo or something and crank the fan speed up....
Maybe he can hack the motor of the cooling fan or clean it or replace it with a faster one 💁♀️ would be interesting as well
I've done almost the same mods as you to my HP Pavillion G6, i3 to i7, only 8Gb of RAM though 😞, and 1TB SSD.
thank you for the cpu upgrade website. Amazing build, yeah will try to stick to 35W cpus for sure 👍
I would have used a 2.5" sata case that can hold an ssd to put in a 2.5" 1TB SATA SSD. An SSD would have been the biggest upgrade in speed. Then I would put Linux and use the laptop another 3-4 years. I had a T410 on which I did RAM and SSD upgrade and used until last year for my Linux experiment and distro-hopping. This year I bought a T480 to continue my Linux experiment. I plant to upgrade the screen to 1440p in this.
I have a laptop like this. It already has the best factory CPU option (an i7-3720QM), 16 GB of ram, and it's been upgraded to a 500 GB SSD. It also has a soldered Nvidia NVS 5200M gpu. It's nothing much, and it's really made for CAD, but it can handle some light gaming if I ever have a reason to game on the go. I'm not sure how much higher it can go regarding CPU, but I also don't think it needs an upgrade.
You pretty much have no upgrade path except for more SSD storage
Hats awesome, how do you upgrade to 16gb ram?
My laptop Toshiba satellite a500 can have max 8gb ram so how I can upgrade the RAM to 16GB??
Man ! I love captive screws. They are wayy too underated.
*Couldn't agree more*
As a technician, i have sold more than a dozen of these per year.
Compact
Sturdy
Available spares
And SSD ram upgrade makes it faster
Did a cpu upgrade on my t420 a while back. Put in the same 2760qm and let me say. On of the best laptops I have used. I does everything I need it to without complaint or fuss.
I had an old Vaio that i performed all kinds of mods on, the final one was an "upgrade" from an i5 to an i7.... saying that it wasnt designed to operate that that power draw/ thermal load would be an understatement.... it was already struggling as is, to the point i had to cut out the plastic from behind the fan to allow for improved ventilation. With 70 Celsius under full load 16gb of ram and an ssd the only thing remaining was a cpu transplantation... Frankenstein posted and booted but quickly overheated and fried something... the cpu and ram were still functional but the Vaio's mobo was dead in the name of science
Typing this from corebooted T420 with i7-3635QM Ivy bridge, maxxed ram and Intel AC wifi. Really can't complain at all, bought it 7 years ago for around 250$ and it still keeps up with the mods I have done.
The upgradability of older laptops is unmatched.
Your laptop would most definitely have accepted a 3rd gen processor and the extra GBs of faster RAM too btw!
As some others have mentioned, you can also flash custom BIOS's to circumvent Hardware restrictions that Lenovo may have implemented.
From the Motherboard layout, it almost looks like certain models of that laptop might have had Dedicated GPU's installed. If they did, I guess the next upgrade is to find a model that has one, and swapping the good hardware into it too
Thermal paste application: Hilarious/10
Build overall 9.5/10
Great upgrades ! The CPU you chose can not be sufficiently cooled down by a tiny single heatsink with one exhaust fan . Also I am sure 16GB of RAM can not be utilized because of the GPU . All hardware must be somewhat equal in order not to bottleneck anything . I have sony vaio vpceh28FA since new . I have the same HM65 chipset as you Intel core i5 2430M and nvidia 410 512MB . Sony claims 8GB RAM max , but I know 16GB will work . My heatsink cools CPU , GPU and the chipset . There is no way this could cool down a 4 core i7 without burning the surface I lay my laptop on . My view is just be reasonable within logic limits . Awesome video . I have my laptop since new 2011 . It is my secondary/backup laptop . Great video ! I loved it . (I don’t mention anything about the thermal paste application, you know you used too much ) . 😝😆👌🏼
love the commentary! made my night!!
(clown farts in your face)
hey how's it going👋
Im typing this on an old ass HP EliteBook that has the ability for me to upgrade my CPU and honestly, Laptops NEED THIS. No more unupgradable laptops. I hate seeing so many people get locked down for years because they dont want to get rid of their laptop but their laptop gets slower and slower as the days go on.
The EliteBook 8470p and its family members are great as well in my opinion. Very good upgradability, and a very handy laptop for those working in IT
You could have cleaned the fan...
Also, that cpu was already not locked into the socket when you opened it. You could use a flat screwdriver to rotate the black thing to lock the cpu in place.
I was waiting until the end of the video to see if he would do that in the end. I even thought he had it in mind when he mentioned that even the fan could be disassembled, as it has screws.
@@elfedorausado He does say that he cleaned the fan in a comment, though
Great video! Kudos to Lenovo for forward thinking! Thinkpads have always been a favorite of mine. Also, you sound exactly like Jack Sparrow!
I still have my previous laptop in my closet. It was a very reliable and dependable laptop. It was an Acer with a AMD Athlon x2 cpu originally, but I eventually upgraded the CPU to the best that the motherboard could support, with 4 cores! I had also maxed out its DDR(1) RAM and even installed a larger, faster hard drive, as well as a second hard drive for even more storage. She also had a discrete NVIDIA GPU with 512mb of memory
I used a very similar laptop, a hp ProBook 4430s with a i5-2430M. Right under the clu and left of the WiFi card is the igpu. Yours have a good heatsink but my one just had a thick plate, 1.5 mm thick. I replaced it with a heatsink for a raspberry pi 4 and it helped a lot with games. Just replacing the stock thermal pad with thermal paste should help a ton to increase the performance of hd3000
did you make sure you discharged yourself before touching that body static and fabrics with static will kill laptop memory and cpus or a motherboard rubing fingers all over it if the environments extremally dry and cold
i7-4700MQ is the one i have in a lenovo laptop and it roughtly matches a desktop i7-3770 CPU.
Ridiculously efficient, same perfomance at half the power consumption.
By browsing the second-hand market you can get much cheaper memory from someone who just wants to get rid of their hardware. Also fantastic choice of SSD!
Fun fact: Thermal conductivity is not the be-all-and-end-all of thermal paste quality. For example, Noctua's thermal pastes (which are some of the best on the market) have an extremely low thermal conductivity in comparison to their competitors. The reason they don't list this information publicly is because people will see that number and think "wow that's bad" instead of looking at real world performance.
Can't let go of my E320. basically run 24/7 for over a decade. CrYou just made me realise i probably need to renew the thermal paste as she's been getting hot lately, even with the fan set to max with TP Fan Control.
Crazy how they completely understated the upgrade possibilities of this machine, it came with a SATA2 SSD and the specs don't say it supports SATA3, but of course.. it does
IBM giving out Thinkpad license to Lenovo was a mistake
Da pasta mhmm, like icing on da cake.
I'd be really impressed if you could populate that GPU socket and all the empty VRAM slots on that board. Would need some bios programming probably. But it'd be interesting to know what all they left off the board for their low-end Thinkpads. But instead of buying a new battery, you should take advantage of the fact that the battery uses a series of standard lithium 18650 rechargeable battery cells. There are ways of bringing them back to life and they can be had for cheap in old DrillDriver batteries and stuff like that.
You could get away with using an i7 2860qm however they do tend to be more expensive than the one you picked and while an XM model would work it is to be avoided as they run 10w hotter. It is often cheaper sometimes to just harvest that cpu from a dead or broken machine than to buy it alone. Personally I would have preferred a version of this machine with a gpu for craps and giggles but that is just me. As for upgrades go nothing beats the high end Dell Precision line aside from a few Alienware models as well some very rare Clevo/Sager and Eurocom as the bees' knees as far as laptops go from that era.
Hope that the modern laptop would adopt again the socket for the cpu
Yea.. hardly happen
Love to see this kind of content
They don't do this because the rest of the system is not really upgradeable. Might as well just replace the whole thing at that point, because unless there's a GPU onboard, the rest of the parts don't cost that much more than the CPU, and if there is a GPU, it's even more impossible, because GPUs just aren't made to be socketable anymore.
That said, there are folks like Framework that will sell replacement boards so you can just swap out the internals and keep the chassis.
Something that could help with temps might be to try and find the cooler that is for the model with the GPU. It will likely have an extra heat pipe or a bigger one, and it'll generally offer a higher thermal mass.
Random rambling here:
-Ram speed isn't that important on DDR3.
-You can try a modded bios to use third gen chips but I don't blame you taking the safe route.
-That heatsink wasn't really designed for that die, apparently (only square dies). Maybe a copper shim to the chassis would've helped.
-Don't push on the thermal paste applicators, just gently spread it around, let the rest squish with the heatsink.
-I've never heard of that thermal paste brand, honestly the cheap Arctic MX4 or MX5 would've worked just as good.
-Making the intake hole bigger would probably help the temps further, but may not look as good.
-You could've upgraded the WLAN card as well.
-Barrel plugs are superior to Type C
This is best laptop upgrade video ia ever watched
worst ever seen , i doubt its working at all now.
@@scampbell8136 tf?
Nice upgrade! I upgraded my Dell Latitude E6540 from a lame dual core i7 4610M to the 2nd to the top of the line i7 4810MQ 16GB ram and MSATA SSD in an available PCIM slot. I noticed this Lenovo also has an available slot too, but may not need it for additional storage now with a 2TB SSD😮 you can use it for an external GPU dock live I've also done with my Latitude. This baby can run Cyberpunk😂
Thats awesome, how do you upgrade to 16gb ram?
My laptop Toshiba satellite a500 can have max 8gb ram so how I can upgrade the RAM to 16GB??
And I also upgrade the cpu??
I miss these days of laptop upgradability! Just gotta make sure you get a cpu that works in that socket and has a TDP close to the one it shiped with (or you can look into other models of the same laptop with more powerful cpu and check their thermal solution to see if you also need to upgrade yours or not). I spoke to a guy who was in IT for 20 years and he argued with me that he has NEVER seen a laptops with a socketed cpu. Just found that ironic
Nice video, nice laptop, my hole nervous system cringed when i saw the amount of thermal paste applied.
A lot of people don't know this to be honest. I used to upgrade laptop CPUs all the time. I would buy older i3 laptops and then buy the i7s to put in them as long as they had IGPUs on them. Cuz it always turned out that the i7 model of that laptop was way more expensive than just buying the laptop in the CPU
That’s pretty cool. And yeah. They were definitely more expensive… I bet you saved some money there. 👍
You also have an mSATA port, you can add storage in that, depending on the key. i had a thinkpad that had an mSATA and i used the mSATA to run linux, with my main drive running windows 10
Until two months ago, my "daily driver" was a W520. Bought new for more than 2000 Euros, it served me well for 11 years. Quadcore I7, 32 GB RAM, 2x1TB SSD, Full HD... but not capable anymore to do all the stuff I need.
Now: refurbished P53 6 core, upgraded to the max: 128GB RAM, 2x2TB SSD2 Nvme, 8k display, Thunderbird docking station.
I hope it will be as sturdy as the W520.
I think that's what a lot of people don't realize with very expensive systems, they can last for a very long time. But many modern expensive systems can't even last that long which is sad
What was wrong with the W520?
@@couchpotato7750 Nothing. "Modern" software needs more and more clock cycles and features to work. Eg. backgrounds in Teams meetings, Outlook, Windows itself.... Then, our databases grow every day, and testing with a copy of the live db became sluggish. Unfortunately, I need that for my work.
@@ralfmimoun2826 ah ok. Yeah I feel that, I feel like a lot of development and general software is becoming more bloated every year.
You should always check how much ram both the cpu and chipset supports.
My laptops cpu can handle 32gb ram fine but my chipset only handles 16gb ram
All xx20 and xx30 thinkpads support 8gb ddr3 per slot so 16GB will be the max for this machine
The W520 and W530 can do 32gb thanks to having 4 ram sockets, but it requires a quad core cpu to utilize
Thats awesome, how do you upgrade to 16gb ram?
My laptop Toshiba satellite a500 can have max 8gb ram so how I can upgrade the RAM to 16GB??
And I also upgrade the cpu??
temps never got above 97 because that's the thermal throttling limit, the cpu is cutting back on clocks and voltage to avoid going over 97
Great video! I had an old i3-3110M in my HP as my first laptop, I always wondered if ilI could upgrade it as it had the same style socket. I later just upgraded to another laptop, but it’s great to see you reusing old tech rather than seeing it thrown in e-waste.
Hey Matt, i had the same i3 in my old Lenovo G480 and indeed you can upgrade it to an i7-3610qm for example, the caveat is that the CPU doesn't turbo, it stays at a maximum 2.3 GHz because the Motherboard doesn't have the power delivery to fully push the cpu to its turbo clock speed. Despite that, the cpu retained about 85-90% of its performance and bc it only runs at 70% of it maximum clock speed it actually runs cooler (and the fan runs quieter) than the i3 that was before while crushing it in every task with it's 4 cores.
@@Larroseba that’s fascinating, I actually assumed the cooler would constantly get overwhelmed, but what you said makes complete sense. The quad core i7 is likely more power efficient as it is at less utilization than the i3 would have been at completing the same task.
May I ask, was it a pricy upgrade?
@@mattsmotorcycle In my case it was a free upgrade, a gift from a friend of mine that his asus motherboard fried some time ago and discovered that his cpu was actually socketed. But on eBay they actually go from $38 to $60 USD
@@mattsmotorcycle i3 (35w) -> upgrade i7-3612qm (4 core / 35w).
Ali express $67-70 USD
@@vladimirazirov1815 the 3610qm is pretty much the same and is way cheaper
You are going to want to upgrade your laptop charger with a higher watt output to make up for the TDP of the CPU.
Ive upgraded a HP AIO touchsmart 600 that the i7 TDP exceeded the board specs andit requires a larger power brick but runs just fine.
Ive also upgraded a dell vostro 1720 with a higher TDP cpu and had upgrade the charger brick from 65watt to 90watt.
Eventually it will kill the battery and also the boards run hotter so it needs to be offset with higher wattage power bricks.
My oldest laptop dates from 2006. I've upgraded everything, including new old stock CPU and it runs Windows 10 perfectly.
most chaotic thermal paste application I’ve seen in quite a while
It looks like that laptop motherboard has a place for a GPU which means you could probably get a cooler from a model that had one, that would definitely be something to look into since you upgraded the cpu to a higher tdp model
I feel like the new die is too big and some of it might not be be in contact with the copper part of the cooler making it harder to cool
Bro it’s a dream for me to upgrade the cpu of a laptop. Seriously laptops should have more upgradability to their hardware since it can be obsolete in a few years. Also this is the main reason I sold my gaming laptop and built my own pc since a pc is more upgradable.
Three thing to check on RAM upgrade, software, motherboard and cpu
You could add thermal pad onto chipset and charging coil to potentially stop the shutdown with heavy use.. they are probably the things getting hottest and causing shutdown.
On those CPUs, that shiny bit *is* the CPU die, it's the back of it. All the circuitry is on the other side.
i wish u could change laptop cpus like u used to.....around 2nd i3,i5,i7 was the last after then they began welding then straight to the motherboard
O for the reason it’s overheating is cuz the copper part of the cooler doesn’t fully cover the entire die.
But I doubt Lenovo actually sells a right one, might be lucky if you get a 3gen cpu with a smaller die size
You make it look so easy to upgrade a notebook cpu and ram, but you entirely skipped over the hours of reading chipset documentation of the HM65 express, the cpu documentation...! When I did this with an Acer 5683wlmi, a Samsung Np55 and an HP 8470p, first rule of thumb, gather info on all variants the model was sold. Chances are high, that same model was sold with at least five different cpu versions, ranging from low tier to highend. Second rule of thumb, find out the name of that mobile mpga socket, go to cpu world and look at all cpus made for that socket. If a wanted cpu on cpu world listing was actually a stock buying option for the model in question, you're golden. If wanted cpu was never sold with that model, it gets tricky and heavy on reading. First of all, does the chipset support single, dual or quads? Does it support cpus with higher fsb? Does it support different stepping? Does it support power hungrier cpus/can the heatsink manage that cpu? And one uncertainty always stays, does the bios like a cpu with a possibly newer micro code, has the bios a whitelist embedded?
With, ram, it can be even more tricky, cpu documentation is not always 100% clear if f.e. sodimm dd3, dd3l or dd3ul, if 1rank or 2rank, and how big one single memory chip can be, 256mB, 512mB or 1gB. From guessing the ddr3 module you installed had 8 modules per side, 2ranks, 8GB total capacity, thats 512mB per device. Now I can't remember what the sandy bridge mobile documentation exactly said regarding size per dram device but bigger than 512 by 8 by 2 isn't probably going to work. Maybe it supports 1024 by 4 by 2, but that would be the same total capacity per dimm bank. Either you were totally lucky or you just intentionally cut out all the research steps with only a sliver mentioning, go to cpu upgrade and you're good. That's not how this works with notebooks.
0:50 I'm sorry, are those unpopulated solder points a place to put GPU components?
Another upgrade you could do is to remove the dvd tray and replace it with a hdd adapter so you can add another hdd/ssd for even more storage, I did that on my elitebook since I don't realy use the dvd tray anymore
I find it weird how that is even possible And the laptop very intelligently accepts the existence of a new storage device in a new location wtf
If you want to help cooling your cpu you can search online for same dimensions (or slightely bigger if there is space) fan that spin higher. Did taht upgrade to my gaming laptop and managed to help it.
I wish laptops went back to this cuz I repaired some laptops and it was a nightmare but the older thinkpads are so much easier just like this one I really wish they would go back to this design. 😭
Nice work! I have an observation; were those 'right-angle' markings on the underside of the heatsink raised? If so, you're not going to get any real contact between the die and the cpu. I'm hoping those were just marks though!
Some correction of misconceptions about thermal pastes (according to some guy who works on thermal pastes that I saw on youtube):
-thermal conductivity rating of thermal paste is basically a scam and has nothing to do with how well the paste performs
- the pressure between the dye and heat sink is usually very high and there's no way bubbles could form between or anything like that. basically there's no need to spread it carefully and thin because it all gets squeezed and evenly distributed anyway (which i totally did on my laptop cuz it has to be perfect and i guess it wasn't in the end), unless you put too little. If you put too much, you're ok if the paste doesn't conduct electricity.
-for laptops it is advisable to use thicker thermal pastes because laptops run at relatively high temps which squeezes the paste out much faster than it would on a well cooled desktop for example. Thin pastes usually perform better by default but the pump out effect on laptops can make it 'degrade' in a matter of months and it will then perform worse that a thicc paste.
Your style is kinda similar to Dankpods, but its also very endearing and interesting. Looking forward to more videos
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I remember my dad purchasing a bunch of these things close to like 2010 and installing linux on them all and giving them to each of us 6 kids. Never really liked linux as a kid as our main stations all had windows 10 so I was always trying to run things through wine and never could.
I did that on an HP 3470P, my daughters still using it today. But it's old and has driver issues, but still useable.
I see the motherboard can support a solder CPU for a GPU as well as open solder memory bays for the GPU.
Wow 11 years, you reminded me with my father may god rest his soul 😂
hell yes!, i love upgradable laptops, huge shame their soo rare nowadays. i had a toshiba techra r700, 250gb hdd, 4gb single chanel, i5-460m, upgraded it to 8gb duel chanel, 500gb ssd, and an i7-640m, HUGE upgrade, but unfortounatly still a duel core cpu so still wasnt good by modern standards. that laptop relied on cpu graphics... the QM cpus for that socket didnt have integrated graphics so had to get a boring duel core.
Didn't remove the battery before installing the parts 🤦♂️🤦♂️
Do you think you could populate the graphics area, and get the proper heatsink for it
that whould be nice :0
Boy do I miss my Lenovo E330 when I watch this
Small little thing to note - more thermal paste =/= better. At some point it inadvertantly causes more heat and less preformance by drawing so much heat it keeps the cpu from doing its transfers.
What you said makes literally zero sense
If it draws heat faster than that IS better you low iq buffoon knuckle dragger
The only reason why my lenovo is still running is its serviceability. The cpu is technically upgradable but not as easy as a socket and I went for the best one you could get at the time. I've replaced the hard drive twice now to an ssd and I've upped the ram too. Changed the fan as well but cheap Chinese thing went out quick
very happy to see this 😌
High quality (reusable) graphite pads are also a good solution. That is all I use now. I just put a couple thermal pads on the CPU & GPU of my new NUCX17.
I recently upgraded my little old Asus U24 with i7-3610QM, 16G ram, and 512G SSD for less than $80. It's now a very capable little laptop. While GPU is not upgradable, for everyday work use and music recording, it's quite good for something that's 12 years old😅.
Switching from regular thermal paste to liquid metal will help a lot, especially on direct die application.
I've also found out that by putting the laptop on a side and making it rest with the cooler blowing hot air upwards cpu temps are even 30°C lower. It does come handy during extensive rendering sessions but of course it's not very easy to use placed this way haha.
@@OKuusava You need to pay extra attention when you apply this thing. The safest way is to cover the surrounding area with tape. Even Sony uses it with the PS5.
That’s a terrible idea, for many reasons, not the least of which…did you see his thermal paste application? That he didn’t disconnect the battery? Bless him, but there’s no way after seeing that, that you should recommend Liquid Metal. Esp on a laptop like this. All it takes is a tiny amount to unalive the poor laptop, and for what? Just use PTM7950.
Nice and interesting video 👍🏼. But I would recommend you to remove the battery before you work or upgrade the motherboard
Thanks for the head up. My laptop is Toshiba satellite a500, so how I can upgrade the motherboard to be fit in the case?
My Dell Latitude is similar. It came with 4GB DDR3 and a 2410m. It also currently has a faulty 320GB mechanical drive. I'm going to keep the current hardware and use it to host a 3D print server for Octoprint failure detection.
I used to struggle selling them but they where built well doesn't make sense people always want any other brand but the IBM was solid
0:50 uncommon is not the right word because neither intel nor AMD make socketed laptop chips since 2017.