On the 03 E-250 5.4, I was surprised how relatively easy it was to replace the fuel pump by lowering the tank. You only have to lower it half way. I made a video about it on my channel. Thanks for this video, it was very helpful to me in diagnosing.
On later model years, there’s also a fuel pump driver mounted to the frame with two bolts, back by the spare tire. It’s easy to get to from the rear of the vehicle, and it doesn’t require dropping the fuel tank to get to it.
Love your video. So clear grain of thought and documentation. Keep up the good work. My goal was to figure out best location to add in a relay to shut down fuel pump.
@@Riskeralot hey risker, Just read your comment again. Might be easier to mount an on/ off switch. Wire in at crash safety switch , passenger side quarter panel. That's pretty easy access point.
Excellent video, BUT: First thing to check on these vans ( I have had 5) is the ground cable going from body to frame aft of passenger door. Twice I had this cause running/starting issues. Replace it with a heavy piece of copper wire.
hey edward, thank you for watching and commenting! yes, multiple system failure symptoms and systems not working would point to a bad ground / supply voltage problem you would have symptoms like what you desribed. thanks again for watching!
hi zendid, thank you for watching. try snapshot of this video block diagram from your cell phone. also type in troubleshooting guide for e250 electrical . perhaps a diagram or 2 will pop up in search results. thanks again for watching!
Would this vid also help for a 1999 Ford E150? Like I think it's the fuel pump my van did the same exact same thing urs did when you sprayed engine starter and ur van started for a few seconds so did mine,
hey jose, thank you for watching! power is applied to the relay socket when the key is turned to the on position. if no voltage is present at the soicket, you have a bad fuse, a loose battery cable or bad or disconnected wiring., check fuse first, then check your battery cables. then, check ignition wiring. thanks again for watching
Hello. I love the video. Best one I found on the subject. I have a strange problem with the fuel pump relay on my van that I have yet to find anyone with the same issue. Thought you might have a suggestion. My van only starts when I take the relay out then plug it back in again. I bought 5 new relays and it is the same for all new ones and with original old one. I checked and tested all voltages and ohm reading as you did and everything looks fine. Thinking it might be the ignition switch but not sure why unplug/plug relay fixes issue every time. Issue arises every morning after van sits and cools down.
Hey mathew, thanks for watching! sounds like a bad ground going up to the pin of the relay post. check ground jumpers between common ground and pin. if good short, check voltage across power for the relay ( posotive pin + negative pin) when ignition is on. should be a solid 12 volts. if not, power to the relay is bad Thanks again for watching
Super cool video... Why did you not check the Inertia switch....? Also always seem like a idea to replace the fuel filter first.. Then again try to start...should change anyway...? Anyway too cool young man... Great little video.. I will be following you pal... P. S. Should hve shown the exact measurements of cut out location...!!! Also would have bin a Perfect time to demonstrate The old bang on the fuel tank hack... Anyway.. Thank you....bro... Rick
Question which is kind of weird would be as I have an E250 this would be my second one I was thinking since a lot of videos on existing with problems on this to make my own videos. I'm wondering what do you use to shoot in how do you edit do you use your phone cuz that's what I'm using and basically trying to figure out how to edit via shooting via RUclips here if you can help out that be awesome
Hey Andrew, Thanks for watching. I use three different cameras. phone is ok too. I use Pinnacle Studios for editing. I watched one of your vids ( speaker replacement). Wide shot ok, closeup ok. need more angles though. Showing inside of van, messy ok but, should also show a cleaned upshot. Welcome to you tube. Thanks again for watching .ps. my vids are ok but i hope you get some other inputs as I am no expert on making vids.
Hey Jeffry, Thank you for watching. My back wont let me get under the van or support a heavy tank. so glad the hole cut is in your wheel house too! Thanks again for watching.
The portion of your video where you're reading the voltage at the fuel pump relay the top is 12 volts the left side you read 12 volts I'm only reading 0.97 on the left side. Where does the left side voltage feed from.
Hey Randolph, Thank you for watching. Voltage is applied to left socket terminal when the ignition switch is turned to the ON position. it goes thru a relay that supplies power to the PCM (module). it then goes to the relay socket left pin. BE SURE YOUR VAN ignition switch is in the ON position! if you still have no power at the socket pin, you must consider the problem to be in the ignition circuit, pcm relay, pcm or power to the ignition is bad. Thanks again for watching!
Great video. Very informative. I have a similar van and suspect the problem to be fuel pump driver module. Problem is, I absolutely cant find it! Ive scoured the underside of my van, behind spare tire, along frame rails, in front and behind fuel tank. nothing. Diesel vans hide them under the coolant reservoir. I have 5.4 Triton. any clue as to where it is located would be awesome! !
Hey Evan ~ thanks for watching. No, I haven't ever seen one. Its not on the schematics either.I I know there are some videos out there that show something attached to the frame work but I dont know if its standard equipment sorry I cant help you with that one. thanks again for watching!
@@manboy4679 I have scoured my van as well and to no avail. Did you ever find it? Mine is an 01 and there is a large canister beneath the spare tire on the drivers side, that looks important. A couple of power connections and what looks like a fuel line runs to it. Aside from that.. nothing. I see in the diagrams that the "F" -150 has one in the same area as this thing I found. It'd be awesome if you found it.
@@philip6419 Hello, the canister is unrelated. I believe a carbon or fuel vapor canister of some sort. As it turns out, my van and probably yours too, doesn't have a driver module. There is only the pump and the main computer handles all this. no driver. Astonishingly, I found the problem myself. It was a faulty crank position sensor. It is also responsible to send a signal to the computer for the fuel injection system to operate. Its located near the air conditioner compressor and its not easy to replace. Its in a terrible spot! I pulled the plug boot off and there was oil soaked on the terminals. I cleaned it thoroughly and now it hasn't had a no start symptom since. I have yet to change it out but I know I need to. Hope that helps!
That van should run just fine without the mass air flow sensor plug in. The crank starting pulses sounded fine so I don't think it's a timing chain. That's just him probably has eight ignition coils and they don't all go out at the same time. Even if it has two ignition coils one for each Bank it's still should run. Most likely it is a fuel pump!
Hey mike, Thank you for watching! yeah, I ve lost a van in the past thinking it was the timing chain. I didnt take the time to troubleshoot it. i was in a pickle and needed wheels immediately! Thanks again for watching
Thanks, Switched the horn relay for the fuel pump relay and got mine start. Thanks for taking the time to do this video….
Hey tater, you are welcome & thank you for watching!
Greetings from North Carolina, thanks to your video I was able to repair my truck
HEY ROBERT,
YAY!!! glad to have helped.
Thank you for watching
On the 03 E-250 5.4, I was surprised how relatively easy it was to replace the fuel pump by lowering the tank. You only have to lower it half way. I made a video about it on my channel. Thanks for this video, it was very helpful to me in diagnosing.
Thanks for sharing
On later model years, there’s also a fuel pump driver mounted to the frame with two bolts, back by the spare tire. It’s easy to get to from the rear of the vehicle, and it doesn’t require dropping the fuel tank to get to it.
Love your video. So clear grain of thought and documentation. Keep up the good work. My goal was to figure out best location to add in a relay to shut down fuel pump.
Hey Risker,
Thanks for watching
@@Riskeralot hey risker,
Just read your comment again.
Might be easier to mount an on/ off switch. Wire in at crash safety switch , passenger side quarter panel. That's pretty easy access point.
Excellent video, BUT: First thing to check on these vans ( I have had 5) is the ground cable going from body to frame aft of passenger door. Twice I had this cause running/starting issues. Replace it with a heavy piece of copper wire.
hey edward,
thank you for watching and commenting!
yes, multiple system failure symptoms and systems not working would point to a bad ground / supply voltage problem you would have symptoms like what you desribed. thanks again for watching!
Hit the gas tank with a mallet, if it then starts its your fuel pump...worked for me
hey pre, thanks for watching. i tried that too. no joy for me. had to troubleshoot.
thanks again for watching
very good video, I congratulate you... a question how can I obtain that diagram...
hi zendid,
thank you for watching.
try snapshot of this video block diagram from your cell phone.
also type in troubleshooting guide for e250 electrical . perhaps a diagram or 2 will pop up in search results. thanks again for watching!
Great video. Thank you
Would this vid also help for a 1999 Ford E150? Like I think it's the fuel pump my van did the same exact same thing urs did when you sprayed engine starter and ur van started for a few seconds so did mine,
` HEY QUEL ~ yes it will be the same for e 150 1999. thanks for watching!
@@AtlanticDrain thank you
Ok seems like everyone here got happy ending fixing their problems but what about no voltage in the relay socket??
Any ideas??
hey jose,
thank you for watching! power is applied to the relay socket when the key is turned to the on position. if no voltage is present at the soicket, you have a bad fuse, a loose battery cable or bad or disconnected wiring., check fuse first, then check your battery cables. then, check ignition wiring.
thanks again for watching
Hello. I love the video. Best one I found on the subject. I have a strange problem with the fuel pump relay on my van that I have yet to find anyone with the same issue. Thought you might have a suggestion. My van only starts when I take the relay out then plug it back in again. I bought 5 new relays and it is the same for all new ones and with original old one. I checked and tested all voltages and ohm reading as you did and everything looks fine. Thinking it might be the ignition switch but not sure why unplug/plug relay fixes issue every time. Issue arises every morning after van sits and cools down.
Hey mathew,
thanks for watching!
sounds like a bad ground going up to the pin of the relay post.
check ground jumpers between common ground and pin.
if good short,
check voltage across power for the relay ( posotive pin + negative pin) when ignition is on.
should be a solid 12 volts.
if not,
power to the relay is bad
Thanks again for watching
Super cool video...
Why did you not check the Inertia switch....?
Also always seem like a idea to replace the fuel filter first..
Then again try to start...should change anyway...?
Anyway too cool young man...
Great little video..
I will be following you pal...
P. S.
Should hve shown the exact measurements of cut out location...!!!
Also would have bin a Perfect time to demonstrate
The old bang on the fuel tank hack...
Anyway..
Thank you....bro...
Rick
Hey Richard,
Thank you for watching!
I do check, I show you current path in schematic as well. Thanks again for watching
hey rick, thank you for watching.
Question which is kind of weird would be as I have an E250 this would be my second one I was thinking since a lot of videos on existing with problems on this to make my own videos. I'm wondering what do you use to shoot in how do you edit do you use your phone cuz that's what I'm using and basically trying to figure out how to edit via shooting via RUclips here if you can help out that be awesome
Hey Andrew, Thanks for watching. I use three different cameras. phone is ok too. I use Pinnacle Studios for editing. I watched one of your vids ( speaker replacement). Wide shot ok, closeup ok. need more angles though. Showing inside of van, messy ok but, should also show a cleaned upshot. Welcome to you tube. Thanks again for watching .ps. my vids are ok but i hope you get some other inputs as I am no expert on making vids.
AtlanticDrain u
Best idea I got out of this video is cut a hole in the bottom of the floor so you don’t have to pull the tank.😊 out
Hey Jeffry,
Thank you for watching. My back wont let me get under the van or support a heavy tank. so glad the hole cut is in your wheel house too!
Thanks again for watching.
Thanks, nice video!
Hey Jim ~ thanks for watching and your welcome. hope it was helpful
The portion of your video where you're reading the voltage at the fuel pump relay the top is 12 volts the left side you read 12 volts I'm only reading 0.97 on the left side. Where does the left side voltage feed from.
Hey Randolph,
Thank you for watching. Voltage is applied to left socket terminal when the ignition switch is turned to the ON position. it goes thru a relay that supplies power to the PCM (module).
it then goes to the relay socket left pin.
BE SURE YOUR VAN ignition switch is in the ON position!
if you still have no power at the socket pin, you must consider the problem to be in the ignition circuit,
pcm relay,
pcm
or
power to the ignition is bad.
Thanks again for watching!
Great video. Very informative. I have a similar van and suspect the problem to be fuel pump driver module. Problem is, I absolutely cant find it! Ive scoured the underside of my van, behind spare tire, along frame rails, in front and behind fuel tank. nothing. Diesel vans hide them under the coolant reservoir. I have 5.4 Triton. any clue as to where it is located would be awesome! !
Hey Evan ~ thanks for watching. No, I haven't ever seen one. Its not on the schematics either.I I know there are some videos out there that show something attached to the frame work but I dont know if its standard equipment sorry I cant help you with that one. thanks again for watching!
I agree. I dont think it has one at all. Thanks for the reply!
@@manboy4679 I have scoured my van as well and to no avail. Did you ever find it? Mine is an 01 and there is a large canister beneath the spare tire on the drivers side, that looks important. A couple of power connections and what looks like a fuel line runs to it. Aside from that.. nothing. I see in the diagrams that the "F" -150 has one in the same area as this thing I found. It'd be awesome if you found it.
@@philip6419 Hello, the canister is unrelated. I believe a carbon or fuel vapor canister of some sort. As it turns out, my van and probably yours too, doesn't have a driver module. There is only the pump and the main computer handles all this. no driver. Astonishingly, I found the problem myself. It was a faulty crank position sensor. It is also responsible to send a signal to the computer for the fuel injection system to operate. Its located near the air conditioner compressor and its not easy to replace. Its in a terrible spot! I pulled the plug boot off and there was oil soaked on the terminals. I cleaned it thoroughly and now it hasn't had a no start symptom since. I have yet to change it out but I know I need to. Hope that helps!
Thanks for the info 😊😊😊
~ HEY ULTIMINO ~ thanks for watching!
Thank you Sir
Most welcome
That van should run just fine without the mass air flow sensor plug in. The crank starting pulses sounded fine so I don't think it's a timing chain. That's just him probably has eight ignition coils and they don't all go out at the same time. Even if it has two ignition coils one for each Bank it's still should run. Most likely it is a fuel pump!
Hey mike, Thank you for watching! yeah, I ve lost a van in the past thinking it was the timing chain. I didnt take the time to troubleshoot it. i was in a pickle and needed wheels immediately! Thanks again for watching