So a year ago my son was shopping new motorcycles as a fairly new rider and as an Indian chieftain owner, I obviously had him go look at the Indian scout and FTR1200. He ended up buying a Honda rebel 1100 with the dual throttle. He loves his new bike and after he sent me this video today we both agree that it was the right decision. I just wanted to thank you so much for taking the time to put this information out there.
The scout when it came out is what got me into motorcycles in the first place so it'll always have a sweet spot in my mind, but man that rebel has one hell of a presence in person! Both bikes look amazing the obvious answer is buy both haha
The scout is easily the most beautiful bike you can buy, so between the a rebel and scout, I'd buy a triumph bobber. But the smart choice is the rebel, most likely it will last 25 years and the cruise control plus abs breaks are the cherry on top.
It looks so much better with a 2 into 1 exhaust, too. That just cleans up the right side of the bike and makes it look leaner, a big plus is the stock exhaust isn't covering anything ugly the 2 into 1 will expose. The bike is too small for me, most of our customers who have them are women. Also they've been very reliable bikes.
I rode them both and ended up buying the Rebel. The classic good looks of the scout are undeniable; but, I’m coming from sport bikes so the sportier handling Rebel was very appealing. Regarding looks, since I’m not coming from the classic cruiser world a modern take on the look didn’t bother me. BTW, I do think the Rebel looks better in person than in pictures/videos. In a week of riding it, I’ve had a number of people come up and ask about the bike. Most were surprised it was a Honda-obviously, not Rebel 300 or 500 riders. :)
I was literally just thinking the rebel looks much better in person than on videos/pics. I picked mine up in DCT about a month ago. I love it! Ride safely!
@@supersonicslicer I got the DCT. I have other bikes, so jumping on something that shifts conventionally isn’t something I’ll miss out on. Regarding the DCT, for the test ride I’d say it’s analogous to the first time I drove a performance car with paddle shifters. For the first few minutes it seemed strange, and then you just let it rip and its amazing to just “click” a paddle and the shift happens so quickly and precisely. I agree with everyone that looks-wise, this is a different animal than all of the other traditional bobbers. It doesn’t look the way a traditional bobber does. There should be another category, maybe “sport bobber.” I’m still breaking the bike in, but so far, I haven’t found a handling limit slicing nice sweepers in Red Rock canyon. Just an amazing bike to cruise on...with a seriously nice hunk of “sport” in the equation.
@@jftuvell Thanks for the info! I test rode the honda ncx(?) which was a DCT as well and from a user experience it what really nice to not have to worry about shifting and all but it's one of the things I love about bikes. I ride a supersport (used to do street riding but now only ride on the track) and have wanted a second bike that is more comfortable for the street for a while and the rebel is perfect for that. I'm just torn between getting the DCT vs manual. I'll see if the dealer will let me test ride both and pick which one I like better.
@@rmcalhoun4543 oofff that exhaust is hideous. I also like the looks of that V-twin from the scout sixty. That rebel engine is just a complete mess unfortunately.
So, I got my Rebel 1100 yesterday. I was unprepared for just how powerful the bike is. In the day and a half I’ve been riding it, I’ve learned that if I’m going to even think about giving her just one of the beans, it’s best if I’m leaned forward and tensed enough to keep a solid core and firm arms so as not to be thrown off the back of the thing. Throttle isn’t even necessary to for take off in sport mode, and I don’t mean you can start out with a glacial feathering of the clutch. I won’t push the rpms so high yet, but I think it could hit 60 mph in third gear and under 4 seconds. There’s maybe two things I’d call downsides to the bike. First, I don’t think I’d recommend it to someone with more than a 32 inch inseam. Second, the padding on the saddle is probably the only thing I think Honda did to the bike as an afterthought; it’s fine for a jaunt around town, but it wears real thin on even a modest ramble of 20 miles or so.
I’ll also mention that I can hardly wait to slip a Vance and Hines muffler onto my bike. Then it will sound every bit as raw, powerful, and thrilling as she feels with every twist of the throttle.
Thanks for sharing the info Al much appreciated! Congrats on the new bike, nice choice! The Rebel 1100 is already proving to be a very popular bike. I'm sure it won't be too long before you have a few new aftermarket seat options to choose from along with a range of exhaust systems. I too am keen to hear how it sounds with a Vance and Hines muffler, that 1100cc parallel twin should sound awesome! 👍
BIL, I ended up with a TBR slip on instead of the Vance and Hines. It was $100 less, available months sooner, and I couldn’t be happier with how the bike sounds now.
Great video. At 8:28 you show the Scout Bobber at $10,999 but that's without the ABS that the Rebel has - with ABS the Scout is $11,899. The local dealer has the Bobber ABS at $12,149 making the Rebel a much better value for the money. Money wise you'd need to compare the Rebel to the Scout 60 ($10,049 with ABS) which the Rebel CRUSHES.
Ok thanks for the heads up Gary. The ABS thing catches me out because all bikes have ABS standard in Australia, you can't buy a new bike without ABS now and it's something I don't even think about. I'll keep that in mind for future videos. Cheers 👍
Someone brought a rebel 1100 by our shop, I work for an Indian dealership and i got a good look at it compared to the indians next to it. Numbers are great and all, but that Rebel just oozes cheap. It's totally a tacked together use for a great engine, and you see why it's cheaper as soon as you look it over. I've been working on Triumph, BMW and now Polaris for over 20 years in dealerships, and a good 15 years before that as in independent mechanic working on damn near any bike that came in. The quality of european and American bikes really stands out when you look over the parts and finish, they're made to higher finish standards. Harleys I love the way they're made, but can't stand the damn owners for many reasons. Let's just say I don't like having to keep adult diapers around for them.
@@Oldbmwr100rs The Rebel oozes cheap and yet it will outlast the Indian with just a fraction of the repairs that the Indian requires. The number of people complaining that their Indian required almost immediate attention because of shoddy workmanship is shocking. The Rebel will outlast and outperform the Scout, Scout 60, Harley 883, Harley 1200 and on and on, .Buy Hey, I get that the lack of build quality and quality control on the Indian is what keeps you employed.
@@garyrivera895 oh, I know, so long as parts are around the rebel will be mechanically great. In working on indians the loaded cheifs have been a pain, but honestly the scouts have been pretty solid. Rarely mechanical problems,it's been the crap electronics more than anything. Have owned and worked on my share of Japanese bikes and cars and love the overall reliability. But the cruiser market in general is junk. Bikes cluttered with chrome crap like crash bars and stupid shiny bits that just make the bike that much harder to ride and take care of. Cruisers are marketed to people who know little about riding and just want a look. Sadly many end up with a bad impression of motorcycles after buying something that isn't all that good at or for anything.
@@Oldbmwr100rs HaHa, do you really think it matters to me that my Indian broke down but it wasn't mechanical - it was electrical? Either way, the bike doesn't run. So much for "quality" American bikes.
This is the 2nd video I watch from this channel. Clearly a lot of effort goes into the research and production. New subscriber. Excellent content. Beautiful comparisons!! Fabulous job 👍🏼
The dct on the Honda is a real game changer for day to day usage. I am actually surprised as to how little there is between the two bikes in terms of specs!
Bought the Scout Bobber 20 mostly just because there's that something about it that made me fall in love. Great bike but the Rebel looks like it would be a great ride also. To each their own.
I am a fan of the rebel but obviously the scout is probably the best looking cruiser on the market. I only prefer the rebel because of the reliability and dct option. Btw, Don’t knock the dct until you try it. If you are all about the feel and control of your bike, the manual clearly wins. However, if you like to go for pleasure cruises and be able to free up 10% of your brain to take it all in, the dct wins.
Good comparison. This is sure to be a tough decision for many buyers. After riding both I bought the scout. I love it. Normally I prefer a full face helmet. But damn. Wearing a ww2 German style lid cruising through town I turn a lot of heads. And when I lay the hammer down? Fuuuuuuuuck
I love both of these bikes and have been reading up on them.... But as a general rule, never use manufacturers' claimed horsepower and torque specs, they are all taken differently and therefore not comparable. Find a source that dynos their bikes on the same dyno under the same conditions. Per Cycle World's dyno tests (all available on YouYube), the Scout turned 84.62 hp at 8,260 rpm and 63.85 pound-feet of torque at 3,220 rpm, while the Rebel made 81.02 hp at 7,010 rpm and 67.90 pound-feet of torque at 5,010 rpm.
I'm on a Scout 60 myself. New rider for about 2 months now. I'm not into carving that much, and I love going fast. Both bikes are great, I got an Icon paint job, and GOD DAMN, she is pretty. Got her for a steal, or else I would have waited for a Triumph like I've always wanted.
@@adamrichmond6348 Its what I learned on. Great bike! If you get the regular Scout 60, not the bobber, there is extended reach options for the foot controls.
Rebel 1100 has a speed limiter at 99mph idk why… my best guess is that above those speeds it start to come apart! I want the rebel but that limiter is concerning!
As much as I like the harley bobber and even more so the scout; the smartest choice is the rebel. Enjoy your new ride brother, I'm right behind you getting one.
I’ve got the 500 rebel in Thailand and it’s perfect for what I want here. But out of these 2 bikes I prefer the look of the Scout. But I’d like a rear seat.
Would've liked to seen a comparison to a regular scout, which has at least an extra inch to the rear suspension, or the Indian Scout 60. The bobber is more of a specialty/novelty model.
been riding a honda scooter for my commute but wanted something bigger for weekend fun. so a month ago at 60 i bought my first motorcycle .. the rebel 1100 dct. almost bought the phantom a few years ago, very glad i procrastinated! as soon as i bring the bars back a few inches i will have zero complaints (except the seat). i have no need or want for more power or speed. it handles great and is fun to ride
The Honda seems to have all the bells and whistles but the scout has that nice classic cruiser look which the Honda lacks...it will come down to preference and how you feel riding it....
The scout only has looks and top end power going for it. If i lived in the US and was buying the bike to please old bikers there then maybe i'd get the scout. If i was buying the bike to please myself, i'd get the rebel. Just having an africa twin engine means there are a lot of aftermarket parts for it, good decision by honda.
All these stats are great but I want to know what bike is cheaper service time and parts which bike is better built? Where are the parts and manufacturing done China America Japan
Very well detailed review for the 2 bikes I’ve been contemplating. I love the look of Indian Scout Bobber but can’t beat reliability of a Honda. P.S Honda Shadow Phantom 750 was my first bike.
I just wish the Honda rebel had a belt drive instead of chain and it had the scouts handle bars. To me, it would then be perfect. Thanks for a great video.
Thanks BIL . I`ve just bought my second new Suzuki . My next new purchase will be the Honda Rebel . Maybe get an Indian in a couple of years . Already had a Harley . Love the bike life .
I'm glad you made a comparison for both the Chief and Scout. Heck if you made a comparison between the Yamaha Raider and a z1000r... That would be awesome, especially for the virtual drag strip! Both serving different markets but still motorcycles nonetheless.
I preferer the the Styling of the Indian, that's why I bought the standard base model Scout over all other cursers , the Rebel does have an edge in just about every category except looks my bike turns heads and gets compliment's almost every where I go . And its a great American made product and since I'm an American I bought it. But each to there own the Scout isn't for everybody! Cool comparison you earned your self a sub! Cheers!✌👍
*What's the widest rear tire can we put in the rebel? Is there an aftermarket swingarm available that will take a 280 mm Metz in the rear? If yes, I am sold.*
I have an updated 'Do I Fit' video of the Rebel 1100 with averaged inseam heights and all the riders including 6'4 going up tomorrow night. That video might give you a better indication 😉
Idk, victory has reliability rivaling that of Kwai and Honda. If that communicates to Indian since they’re both Polaris, then reliability really isn’t a difference. It all really comes down to appearance preferences
I’m in the U.K. and to be honest I’ve never heard of Indian. I ride Hondas - I trust them and their technology. Not saying Indian bikes aren’t good, but my Hondas have never once let me down.
They make traditional cruisers like Harley but aren't confined to just air cooled vtwins that are overally priced. They're similarly priced to Harleys but you just get more with an indian, they aren't in such a position like Harley where any kinda change/new direction in bikes is responded with hate from their "older" riders lol Indian does a better job at modern classic, looking at the scout lineup and their flat track inspired FTR. Problem is Indian doesn't have as many dealerships in other countries, hell even in the US.
@@SooHighFashion good points but Indians still too expensive...if they cut their prices by 25% you'd still be getting more with metric bikes but I'd go Indian then...
@@RunhdeepS.Sandhu oh yeah their prices are pretty similar to Harley davidson, you just get just a little bit more on the bike compared to HD. I'd probably just buy a used dyna honestly. Yeah cant beat the price and performance of metric bikes. To this day I kinda regret not getting the mt07 as my 1st bike lol
Not bashing you, but Indian is one of the oldest and at times most prominent motorcycle companies in the world. Granted, the current Indian company seems not so closely connected to the Indian of old.
Probably the first video I've seen reviewing showing what a 6ft person looks like, I'm getting the rebel 1100 and come in at 6ft, but I'm also tiny, like 145 tiny. And this will be my first bike. I've pondered the rebel 500, but I'm lookin for beafish sound and when I get comfortable I still want a bit of power although don't ever plan on going Mach
I always read the comments Joshua. 😉 Two bikes that are the same and yet different. A water cooled twin vs a larger capacity air/oiled cooled twin. Rider height is going to be a factor here as well. If you're taller you'll probably be more comfortable on the Scout Bobber Twenty (tractor seat version). If you're shorter the Low Rider may be more comfortable. Do you prefer torque or horsepower? Do you like your bikes to have effortless grunt down low or do you like revving your bike out more? I think understanding the way you prefer to ride will help a lot in making a decision. I will look at making a video but I'm interested to hear how you might answer these questions. 👍
That is not how to do a comparison between bikes IMO. Reading the specs does not tell much about which bike is more fun to ride. When you do ride both bikes back-to-back, you will see that this is no real competition. The rebel is miles better than the scout. In everything related to driving despite they have similar specs. The only area which might go to scout are the looks, but this is very subjective... I respect the effort put into this review but it is not doing it for me, sorry
It may be too close to even worry about - but I think it would be reasonable to compare the Scout 60 to the Rebel 1100. What do you get when you shave off over $1,000
Scout 60 is very similar in price to the Manual Rebel 1100 but where the Bobber Twenty matches the Honda's torque and is higher in horsepower the Scout 60 is down on HP and torque. Both the Scout 60 and Bobber Twenty are heavier than the Honda but the Bobber Twenty's higher horsepower figure helps balance out the equation for me, which is why I went with the Bobber Twenty.
Well......clearly the honda is the better bike when you take all the specifications and features into consideration. Honda's choice of transmission is brilliant for the new rider as well as the frequent commuters. Yes there will be people that use this bike to get to work. The Honda having abs on a larger front disc is a huge advantage. 4 riding performance modes and 4 traction control modes for the Honda, 1 for the Indian. The same one day after day regardless of riding conditions. The honda has electronic cruise control, electronic braking, great safety features like side stand up to start. I am not saying the Indian isn't a good bike, I'm just saying it doesn't come close to the Honda. One last point, Polaris retired Victory, will Indian be next?
I think Indian have a lot of life left in them yet, if the interest in the new Chief is anything to go by. Local dealer told me that every second person currently coming into the dealership is asking about the new Chief.
I work at an Indian dealer. A lot of Harley riders are making the switch. Harley is being left in the dust. Polaris is doing an amazing amount of R and D on new products and accessories, making modern classics. It would be dumb to drop Indian, as currently half the people coming in are getting a Scout Bobber, leaving a deposit, and being okay with the fact their new bike is on back order and wont come in for about 2-3 months. Polaris buying Indian was one of the smartest things they have ever done, and no, they won't drop it anytime soon.
Excellent comparison! I love the real side by side numbers with clear explanations and no bones admitting what numbers couldn't be found. Adding a typical rider in the power to weight calculations is correct and brilliant, thanks! As a 5' 5" rider who is tall compared to some rider friends, it's difficult to see a significant difference between two riders both so tall, but the good pictures at least give a decent idea both bikes have room for much smaller riders, so that still helped some. It would be nice if future comparisons could use Bob's shorter wife if she's near 4' 11". Turning radius: Just don't, it's a wrench in layers of duct tape with a mound of flies in contaminated ointments stuck to it, tossed into rusty works after years of neglect, and sealed in a can of worms best left un-opened. I do wish I could compare turning radius, it's important to me. As a 2 wheel commuter, shopper, errand runner, I often turn very tightly and on rare occasions I make a U-turn in the isle between parking lines. I think I could not do this on some bikes I've tested, but I know familiarity would help if I owned them. The wheel base and lock-to-lock bar/fork angle gives a starting picture, however adding a modest 20° lean shortens the radius of my bike by more than two feet. More lean gives better results. Width of tires changes the amount of effect leaning has. Many people on the same model of bike will have very different turn radius depending on level of comfort with leaning at slow speeds and what speed they are confident keeping in a turn. Another factor is confidence in being at full lock when your body tells you you need play in the bars to maintain balance. Suppose we use the starter figure of a person walking the bike straight up at full lock? Newer riders would stop looking at many bikes that could not pass the testing requirements without lean. Owners would strongly object because all bikes can do WAY smaller circles than a straight up full lock radius. I think you gave us all the numbers we need to have an idea about which may be more nimble in general. Thanks again!
Thanks Randy, appreciate the feedback and you're welcome! In case you're unaware my 'Do I Fit' Series features 5'3" and 5'6" riders. I now have over 120 bikes tested in that series. You can find them listed alphabetically right here. tinyurl.com/DO-I-FIT-Videos
And in Austria the Rebel already costs 12k or 13k for the DCT version. But seems like the Indian seems a good alternative (price wise) to the HD, if you want to try and join certain clubs, that ask for an American bike with 1200 CC minimum...
Well, this video helped me make a decision. Love the cruiser riding style, but like to be able to have fun on some twisties a little bit when I want to lol. I'm gonna get the Rebel 1100. Seems like such a fun bike to replace my '09 Kawi ER6N
Odds are there is a Honda dealer in my neighborhood rather than an Indian dealer. And Honda has a reputation for reliability. Both bikes should come stock with a much better suspension system.
Any chance you can or have compared the rebel to an Indian Rogue? Looking into these two for my first cruiser type of bike for longer rides as I currently own a sportsbike
Although the specs are similar for both bikes, I had chosen the Indian Scout standard. It is hands down the more unique bike that grabs the attention of many riders, only because it is an Indian, and not a HD or an import.
personally i think the Indian would win in a 1/4 drag, the downside to the Rebel 1100, is the computer kills it at 100MPH on both the DTC and Manual models. Also the front end of the Rebel is super super light at high speeds which causes some instability on the front end, but again you could be hitting that 100 by that 1/4 mile mark
Perhaps you could have included electronics on these bikes to complete the comparison ( even though you mentioned these on Rebel at the end ) ? As good a bike as Rebel may be, its ordinary looks are a big turn off for me !
I’m not sure I’d call bobbed styling and a parallel twin “ordinary.” Frankly, it’s stunning to see it in person. The muffler is still a bit of an eye-sore, but I’ve seen no end of cat-calls, “wow”, and “nice bike, dude,” in the little bit of time I’ve been riding her around.
I should also mention the paint, too. The gunmetal black metallic can best be described as like a dark, polished marble. It’s hard to put into words how gorgeous the paint is.
When you are talking about cruisers, the type of engine used integral to the aesthetics; as a naked bike, the engine is part of the “looks.” Parallel twins, in this class of bike, are not an “ordinary” look.
Weird, I'd say the Scout looks the most ordinary out of the two, although neither are really all that ordinary looking. The Rebel just looks so different compared to pretty much anything that comes to mind. What makes you call it ordinary?
The Rebel would be my choice because it's the better value for me and my riding style. However, the Scout will likely hold a higher price value further down the road than the Rebel simply because it's an Indian Scout. It's a lot like comparing two eligible ladies. The Rebel looks good, is more intelligent, has the better job and therefore would be the WISER choice....but come on now....just look at those beautifully colorful lines and sexy styling on that Scout, haha. 😋
Don't get me wrong, the honda probably has a more reliable engine, but i will take the Scout at any given day of the week, coz the Rebel, to me, just looks bland and too simple and doesn't have any character....
@@raulsantacruz4317 yes i've seen the rebel in person and had a a test drive too, while i owned the indian scout for two years, before i sold it to upgrade, now i'm planning to buy the Triumph Rocket 3 Roadster or the GT...👍👍👍
I agree, that Rebel just looks bad. Tank shape looks horrible, and it has such a weak chin. The Rebel looks like a sloppy mix of a naked bike and a cruiser.
Rebel also has 100Mph limiter and is reported to be kinda unstable at higher speeds. Given that limiter can be downright dangerous when you need to make quick pass at highway I'd never buy a bike with it to begin with and Indian has its own downsides with suspension and pricing. Sadly neither of these seems like that much upgrade from Kawasaki vulcan 650 so I guess the wait for something to upgrade to continues.
I'm a fan of the Vulcan 650 too. I haven't ridden the Rebel 1100 but I have ridden the Scout Bobber Twenty and I can attest it is a very impressive bike. My ride review of the Scout Bobber Twenty ruclips.net/video/nwSK8B1iX5w/видео.html
I've seen a few videos that show the Honda gets squirrelly at top speeds. I would imagine that the Indian, with its longer wheelbase and oversized front tire would be more stable on the highway.
Yes I have seen one video where the Rebel was shaking it's head at high speed, I didn't know there were more. After my recent test ride I can confirm the Scout is stable at highway speed. ruclips.net/video/nwSK8B1iX5w/видео.html
If it’s the same video I saw where he was testing top speed? It was his camera/phone mount that caused it. Once he removed it and tested it, it didn’t wobble anymore.
Honda limits the Rebel 1100 top speed to 99mph. No reason to do that unless they are putting maypop tires on it or it’s unstable at speed. The scouts are limited to 120mph.
for me it comes down to 2 factors; the DCT version of the Rebel is abou the same price (and only in the 1100 for what ever reason) as the Scout, and the Rebel with the half-tank look and exposed frame; is going through an identity crisis, like a cruiser version of a Ducati. the Scout is a fatter; lower more stable unappologetic Cruiser.
Thanks Calvin! It'll depend on your own personal experiences. Some beginners, although never having ridden a road bike have grown up riding dirt bikes etc and some beginners have never even sat on a bike. With that said I'd still be more comfortable recommending the Rebel 500 for a beginner.
So a year ago my son was shopping new motorcycles as a fairly new rider and as an Indian chieftain owner, I obviously had him go look at the Indian scout and FTR1200. He ended up buying a Honda rebel 1100 with the dual throttle. He loves his new bike and after he sent me this video today we both agree that it was the right decision. I just wanted to thank you so much for taking the time to put this information out there.
New rider on a 1200 ... i see it comming.
The scout when it came out is what got me into motorcycles in the first place so it'll always have a sweet spot in my mind, but man that rebel has one hell of a presence in person! Both bikes look amazing the obvious answer is buy both haha
The scout is easily the most beautiful bike you can buy, so between the a rebel and scout, I'd buy a triumph bobber. But the smart choice is the rebel, most likely it will last 25 years and the cruise control plus abs breaks are the cherry on top.
just get the scout and when the motor dies you can find a honda motor to swap lol
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Aesthetics matter. It’s not irrelevant to rational choice. The smart *unaesthetic* choice is the Rebel.
@@Zomfoo Yeah no
There’s abs on the Indian too
The scout is so beautiful. I love its low stance and more streamlined gas tank
It looks so much better with a 2 into 1 exhaust, too. That just cleans up the right side of the bike and makes it look leaner, a big plus is the stock exhaust isn't covering anything ugly the 2 into 1 will expose. The bike is too small for me, most of our customers who have them are women. Also they've been very reliable bikes.
I rode them both and ended up buying the Rebel. The classic good looks of the scout are undeniable; but, I’m coming from sport bikes so the sportier handling Rebel was very appealing. Regarding looks, since I’m not coming from the classic cruiser world a modern take on the look didn’t bother me. BTW, I do think the Rebel looks better in person than in pictures/videos. In a week of riding it, I’ve had a number of people come up and ask about the bike. Most were surprised it was a Honda-obviously, not Rebel 300 or 500 riders. :)
I think the Rebel's a great choice, enjoy your new bike! 👍
I was literally just thinking the rebel looks much better in person than on videos/pics. I picked mine up in DCT about a month ago. I love it! Ride safely!
@John Tuvell Did you get the DCT or a manual...that's what I'm debating between
@@supersonicslicer I got the DCT. I have other bikes, so jumping on something that shifts conventionally isn’t something I’ll miss out on. Regarding the DCT, for the test ride I’d say it’s analogous to the first time I drove a performance car with paddle shifters. For the first few minutes it seemed strange, and then you just let it rip and its amazing to just “click” a paddle and the shift happens so quickly and precisely. I agree with everyone that looks-wise, this is a different animal than all of the other traditional bobbers. It doesn’t look the way a traditional bobber does. There should be another category, maybe “sport bobber.” I’m still breaking the bike in, but so far, I haven’t found a handling limit slicing nice sweepers in Red Rock canyon. Just an amazing bike to cruise on...with a seriously nice hunk of “sport” in the equation.
@@jftuvell Thanks for the info! I test rode the honda ncx(?) which was a DCT as well and from a user experience it what really nice to not have to worry about shifting and all but it's one of the things I love about bikes. I ride a supersport (used to do street riding but now only ride on the track) and have wanted a second bike that is more comfortable for the street for a while and the rebel is perfect for that. I'm just torn between getting the DCT vs manual. I'll see if the dealer will let me test ride both and pick which one I like better.
While the Rebel imho is the smarter choice, the Scout is just a beautiful bike and would be my choice between the 2.
Rebel is pretty ugly. Better bike, though.
That is my struggle as well lol the scout just looks stunning
I agree. I just can't get past the big ugly exhaust on the rebel. Maybe if twin pipes were an option.
@@filoIII for sure 100%
@@rmcalhoun4543 oofff that exhaust is hideous. I also like the looks of that V-twin from the scout sixty. That rebel engine is just a complete mess unfortunately.
So, I got my Rebel 1100 yesterday. I was unprepared for just how powerful the bike is. In the day and a half I’ve been riding it, I’ve learned that if I’m going to even think about giving her just one of the beans, it’s best if I’m leaned forward and tensed enough to keep a solid core and firm arms so as not to be thrown off the back of the thing. Throttle isn’t even necessary to for take off in sport mode, and I don’t mean you can start out with a glacial feathering of the clutch. I won’t push the rpms so high yet, but I think it could hit 60 mph in third gear and under 4 seconds.
There’s maybe two things I’d call downsides to the bike. First, I don’t think I’d recommend it to someone with more than a 32 inch inseam. Second, the padding on the saddle is probably the only thing I think Honda did to the bike as an afterthought; it’s fine for a jaunt around town, but it wears real thin on even a modest ramble of 20 miles or so.
I’ll also mention that I can hardly wait to slip a Vance and Hines muffler onto my bike. Then it will sound every bit as raw, powerful, and thrilling as she feels with every twist of the throttle.
Thanks for sharing the info Al much appreciated! Congrats on the new bike, nice choice! The Rebel 1100 is already proving to be a very popular bike. I'm sure it won't be too long before you have a few new aftermarket seat options to choose from along with a range of exhaust systems. I too am keen to hear how it sounds with a Vance and Hines muffler, that 1100cc parallel twin should sound awesome! 👍
Can attest the seat on the 1100 definitely sucks did 1000k round trip and my back was shot for 3 days
You know, I actually ended up making a trip that was over 6,000 km, there and back. Couldn’t have done it without an Airhawk seat pad.
BIL, I ended up with a TBR slip on instead of the Vance and Hines. It was $100 less, available months sooner, and I couldn’t be happier with how the bike sounds now.
I didn’t know that Bill & Ted ride motorcycles? Most excellent!! 🤘🎸
Rock on! 😁👍
Great video. At 8:28 you show the Scout Bobber at $10,999 but that's without the ABS that the Rebel has - with ABS the Scout is $11,899. The local dealer has the Bobber ABS at $12,149 making the Rebel a much better value for the money. Money wise you'd need to compare the Rebel to the Scout 60 ($10,049 with ABS) which the Rebel CRUSHES.
Ok thanks for the heads up Gary. The ABS thing catches me out because all bikes have ABS standard in Australia, you can't buy a new bike without ABS now and it's something I don't even think about. I'll keep that in mind for future videos. Cheers 👍
Someone brought a rebel 1100 by our shop, I work for an Indian dealership and i got a good look at it compared to the indians next to it. Numbers are great and all, but that Rebel just oozes cheap. It's totally a tacked together use for a great engine, and you see why it's cheaper as soon as you look it over. I've been working on Triumph, BMW and now Polaris for over 20 years in dealerships, and a good 15 years before that as in independent mechanic working on damn near any bike that came in. The quality of european and American bikes really stands out when you look over the parts and finish, they're made to higher finish standards. Harleys I love the way they're made, but can't stand the damn owners for many reasons. Let's just say I don't like having to keep adult diapers around for them.
@@Oldbmwr100rs The Rebel oozes cheap and yet it will outlast the Indian with just a fraction of the repairs that the Indian requires. The number of people complaining that their Indian required almost immediate attention because of shoddy workmanship is shocking. The Rebel will outlast and outperform the Scout, Scout 60, Harley 883, Harley 1200 and on and on, .Buy Hey, I get that the lack of build quality and quality control on the Indian is what keeps you employed.
@@garyrivera895 oh, I know, so long as parts are around the rebel will be mechanically great. In working on indians the loaded cheifs have been a pain, but honestly the scouts have been pretty solid. Rarely mechanical problems,it's been the crap electronics more than anything. Have owned and worked on my share of Japanese bikes and cars and love the overall reliability. But the cruiser market in general is junk. Bikes cluttered with chrome crap like crash bars and stupid shiny bits that just make the bike that much harder to ride and take care of. Cruisers are marketed to people who know little about riding and just want a look. Sadly many end up with a bad impression of motorcycles after buying something that isn't all that good at or for anything.
@@Oldbmwr100rs HaHa, do you really think it matters to me that my Indian broke down but it wasn't mechanical - it was electrical? Either way, the bike doesn't run. So much for "quality" American bikes.
This is the 2nd video I watch from this channel. Clearly a lot of effort goes into the research and production. New subscriber. Excellent content. Beautiful comparisons!! Fabulous job 👍🏼
Thank you so much! Welcome aboard 👍
@@BikesILike but u have some incorrect info... because those scout models have 95kw not 75 ... but the torque is correct .
The dct on the Honda is a real game changer for day to day usage. I am actually surprised as to how little there is between the two bikes in terms of specs!
Brilliant! Once again. Thanks for this: so much time and effort put into creating your videos but it is really appreciated.
My pleasure and you're welcome, thanks David!
Scout definitely the better looking bike but the Honda will probably outlast and be more reliable.
Bought the Scout Bobber 20 mostly just because there's that something about it that made me fall in love. Great bike but the Rebel looks like it would be a great ride also. To each their own.
After test riding the Scout Bobber 20 I'm a big fan too. I want one in my garage 👍
Indian scout runs way to hot in the city I know in I had a 2018 new Indian scout and sold it and bought a new Honda shadow
I bought a Rebel 1100 for my first bike last week. I’m in love with it.
Nice!
This video is amazing, these are exactly the two bikes i was looking at!
So what bike are you going with?
Thanks William! 👍
I am a fan of the rebel but obviously the scout is probably the best looking cruiser on the market. I only prefer the rebel because of the reliability and dct option.
Btw, Don’t knock the dct until you try it. If you are all about the feel and control of your bike, the manual clearly wins. However, if you like to go for pleasure cruises and be able to free up 10% of your brain to take it all in, the dct wins.
Beauty= scout
Whole package= Rebel
Good comparison. This is sure to be a tough decision for many buyers. After riding both I bought the scout. I love it. Normally I prefer a full face helmet. But damn. Wearing a ww2 German style lid cruising through town I turn a lot of heads. And when I lay the hammer down? Fuuuuuuuuck
A less brutal ride on choppy roads and honda reliability is why I'll spend my money on the rebel.
The Scout looks so good........but i think for reliability would be the Rebel
I love both of these bikes and have been reading up on them.... But as a general rule, never use manufacturers' claimed horsepower and torque specs, they are all taken differently and therefore not comparable. Find a source that dynos their bikes on the same dyno under the same conditions.
Per Cycle World's dyno tests (all available on YouYube), the Scout turned 84.62 hp at 8,260 rpm and 63.85 pound-feet of torque at 3,220 rpm, while the Rebel made 81.02 hp at 7,010 rpm and 67.90 pound-feet of torque at 5,010 rpm.
Both are very nice and can’t go wrong
I'm on a Scout 60 myself. New rider for about 2 months now. I'm not into carving that much, and I love going fast. Both bikes are great, I got an Icon paint job, and GOD DAMN, she is pretty. Got her for a steal, or else I would have waited for a Triumph like I've always wanted.
I've been eye balling a triumph bobber or a scout 60 bobber. Newer rider hut also 6'5" so not too keen on tiny bikes. How has the 60 been to learn on?
@@adamrichmond6348 Its what I learned on. Great bike! If you get the regular Scout 60, not the bobber, there is extended reach options for the foot controls.
Rebel 1100 has a speed limiter at 99mph idk why… my best guess is that above those speeds it start to come apart! I want the rebel but that limiter is concerning!
Don’t see how you can possibly make 2inch of rear suspension travel work?
I have an appointment at a dealer tomorrow to begin process to purchase a Rebel 1100. Clearly a winner.
As much as I like the harley bobber and even more so the scout; the smartest choice is the rebel. Enjoy your new ride brother, I'm right behind you getting one.
I would consider taking a scout bobber out for a test ride, I’ve had mine for about two weeks now and there’s just something about it...
I’ve got the 500 rebel in Thailand and it’s perfect for what I want here. But out of these 2 bikes I prefer the look of the Scout. But I’d like a rear seat.
Would've liked to seen a comparison to a regular scout, which has at least an extra inch to the rear suspension, or the Indian Scout 60. The bobber is more of a specialty/novelty model.
been riding a honda scooter for my commute but wanted something bigger for weekend fun. so a month ago at 60 i bought my first motorcycle .. the rebel 1100 dct. almost bought the phantom a few years ago, very glad i procrastinated! as soon as i bring the bars back a few inches i will have zero complaints (except the seat). i have no need or want for more power or speed. it handles great and is fun to ride
great job, luv the idea of showing a rider position on the bike
Thank you! 👍
The Honda seems to have all the bells and whistles but the scout has that nice classic cruiser look which the Honda lacks...it will come down to preference and how you feel riding it....
The scout only has looks and top end power going for it. If i lived in the US and was buying the bike to please old bikers there then maybe i'd get the scout. If i was buying the bike to please myself, i'd get the rebel. Just having an africa twin engine means there are a lot of aftermarket parts for it, good decision by honda.
I’ve been looking at both online in my search for my 3rd bike. Thank you.
You're welcome Gwen, glad you found it useful 👍
Did you ever decide?!?
@@josiahm6690 Not yet. Life, a broken engagement, moving - all of it - got in the way. I will get back to my search soon. Thanks for asking.
All these stats are great but I want to know what bike is cheaper service time and parts which bike is better built? Where are the parts and manufacturing done China America Japan
The rebel is chain drive and the Scout is belt drive an omission when comparing prices. :-)
I have a depressingly small shop, so overall length is a crucial statistic for me. Great comparison, still. Thanks.
Ahh ok, I'll definitely add overall length to future videos. Thanks for the feedback Guy 👍
Every sentence real info, great review. DCT makes the decision easy 👍. Had enough of agricultural gearboxes, and I'm talking 'slick' Japanese as well.
Thank you! 👍
Very well detailed review for the 2 bikes I’ve been contemplating. I love the look of Indian Scout Bobber but can’t beat reliability of a Honda.
P.S
Honda Shadow Phantom 750 was my first bike.
The belt drive is a nice advantage over chain drive.
I just wish the Honda rebel had a belt drive instead of chain and it had the scouts handle bars. To me, it would then be perfect. Thanks for a great video.
You're welcome. Thank you! 👍
Indian scout bobber is the better choice. Trust me I tried them both.
Same thought here
Thanks BIL . I`ve just bought my second new Suzuki . My next new purchase will be the Honda Rebel . Maybe get an Indian in a couple of years . Already had a Harley . Love the bike life .
You're welcome Jono! Great to see you trying a range of brands and styles of bike!
I'm glad you made a comparison for both the Chief and Scout. Heck if you made a comparison between the Yamaha Raider and a z1000r... That would be awesome, especially for the virtual drag strip! Both serving different markets but still motorcycles nonetheless.
Just recently found your site--brilliant and enjoyable. Thanks and I look forward to watching more
Thanks so much and welcome aboard! 👍
I preferer the the Styling of the Indian, that's why I bought the standard base model Scout over all other cursers , the Rebel does have an edge in just about every category except looks my bike turns heads and gets compliment's almost every where I go . And its a great American made product and since I'm an American I bought it. But each to there own the Scout isn't for everybody! Cool comparison you earned your self a sub! Cheers!✌👍
Thank you! 👍
@@BikesILike You Welcome! 👍
Never buying a bike due to stats. Got to love the look of it from the start of you will never be happy
I wonder what the difference is between the Honda rebel 1100 to a vulcan s 650?
I went with a 2022 Honda 1100 DCT. A better bike for a newer rider. But getting one is not easy.
*What's the widest rear tire can we put in the rebel? Is there an aftermarket swingarm available that will take a 280 mm Metz in the rear? If yes, I am sold.*
This video almost sold me on a rebel but at 6'3 I'm a little worried about how Bill's legs look.
I have an updated 'Do I Fit' video of the Rebel 1100 with averaged inseam heights and all the riders including 6'4 going up tomorrow night. That video might give you a better indication 😉
I love the idea of the dct for my first bike but I'm worried it'll hinder my ability to get another bike later if I don't know how to shift
For performance, Indian Scout. For reliability, Honda Rebel.
Depends what kind of performance you mean. On a curvy mountain road I'm pretty sure the Rebel wins.
Idk, victory has reliability rivaling that of Kwai and Honda.
If that communicates to Indian since they’re both Polaris, then reliability really isn’t a difference.
It all really comes down to appearance preferences
@@stevenenciso5023 I don't like the fact that Indian got rid of the valanced fenders on most of their Chief's. It was what made Indian famous.
Thanks BIL, keep the videos coming! I wish you get loads of bikes to ride my man!
Thanks Mrunmoy! Will do I hope so too!
I’m in the U.K. and to be honest I’ve never heard of Indian. I ride Hondas - I trust them and their technology. Not saying Indian bikes aren’t good, but my Hondas have never once let me down.
They make traditional cruisers like Harley but aren't confined to just air cooled vtwins that are overally priced. They're similarly priced to Harleys but you just get more with an indian, they aren't in such a position like Harley where any kinda change/new direction in bikes is responded with hate from their "older" riders lol Indian does a better job at modern classic, looking at the scout lineup and their flat track inspired FTR. Problem is Indian doesn't have as many dealerships in other countries, hell even in the US.
@@SooHighFashion good points but Indians still too expensive...if they cut their prices by 25% you'd still be getting more with metric bikes but I'd go Indian then...
@@RunhdeepS.Sandhu oh yeah their prices are pretty similar to Harley davidson, you just get just a little bit more on the bike compared to HD. I'd probably just buy a used dyna honestly. Yeah cant beat the price and performance of metric bikes. To this day I kinda regret not getting the mt07 as my 1st bike lol
I'm in UK and have a scout there are enough of them about I love mine
Not bashing you, but Indian is one of the oldest and at times most prominent motorcycle companies in the world. Granted, the current Indian company seems not so closely connected to the Indian of old.
While a lovely comparison, nothing will get me away from my dreambike, the Triumph Speedmaster :D
Probably the first video I've seen reviewing showing what a 6ft person looks like, I'm getting the rebel 1100 and come in at 6ft, but I'm also tiny, like 145 tiny. And this will be my first bike. I've pondered the rebel 500, but I'm lookin for beafish sound and when I get comfortable I still want a bit of power although don't ever plan on going Mach
I doubt you’ll see this but could you do the harley lowrider and scout bobber. Ive got it down to those two but really cant decide
I always read the comments Joshua. 😉
Two bikes that are the same and yet different. A water cooled twin vs a larger capacity air/oiled cooled twin. Rider height is going to be a factor here as well. If you're taller you'll probably be more comfortable on the Scout Bobber Twenty (tractor seat version). If you're shorter the Low Rider may be more comfortable. Do you prefer torque or horsepower? Do you like your bikes to have effortless grunt down low or do you like revving your bike out more? I think understanding the way you prefer to ride will help a lot in making a decision. I will look at making a video but I'm interested to hear how you might answer these questions. 👍
That is not how to do a comparison between bikes IMO. Reading the specs does not tell much about which bike is more fun to ride. When you do ride both bikes back-to-back, you will see that this is no real competition. The rebel is miles better than the scout. In everything related to driving despite they have similar specs. The only area which might go to scout are the looks, but this is very subjective... I respect the effort put into this review but it is not doing it for me, sorry
Thank you, respect your opinion. Thanks for at least checking out the channel 👍
@@BikesILike You are welcome and respect for your reaction. I will definitely do more digging in the channel :-)
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Great vid. For me the only option is the rebel
It may be too close to even worry about - but I think it would be reasonable to compare the Scout 60 to the Rebel 1100. What do you get when you shave off over $1,000
Scout 60 is very similar in price to the Manual Rebel 1100 but where the Bobber Twenty matches the Honda's torque and is higher in horsepower the Scout 60 is down on HP and torque. Both the Scout 60 and Bobber Twenty are heavier than the Honda but the Bobber Twenty's higher horsepower figure helps balance out the equation for me, which is why I went with the Bobber Twenty.
Well......clearly the honda is the better bike when you take all the specifications and features into consideration. Honda's choice of transmission is brilliant for the new rider as well as the frequent commuters. Yes there will be people that use this bike to get to work. The Honda having abs on a larger front disc is a huge advantage. 4 riding performance modes and 4 traction control modes for the Honda, 1 for the Indian. The same one day after day regardless of riding conditions. The honda has electronic cruise control, electronic braking, great safety features like side stand up to start.
I am not saying the Indian isn't a good bike, I'm just saying it doesn't come close to the Honda. One last point, Polaris retired Victory, will Indian be next?
I think Indian have a lot of life left in them yet, if the interest in the new Chief is anything to go by. Local dealer told me that every second person currently coming into the dealership is asking about the new Chief.
I work at an Indian dealer. A lot of Harley riders are making the switch. Harley is being left in the dust. Polaris is doing an amazing amount of R and D on new products and accessories, making modern classics. It would be dumb to drop Indian, as currently half the people coming in are getting a Scout Bobber, leaving a deposit, and being okay with the fact their new bike is on back order and wont come in for about 2-3 months.
Polaris buying Indian was one of the smartest things they have ever done, and no, they won't drop it anytime soon.
mechanical reliability ? have to be honda hands down more important than most other comps
Excellent comparison! I love the real side by side numbers with clear explanations and no bones admitting what numbers couldn't be found. Adding a typical rider in the power to weight calculations is correct and brilliant, thanks!
As a 5' 5" rider who is tall compared to some rider friends, it's difficult to see a significant difference between two riders both so tall, but the good pictures at least give a decent idea both bikes have room for much smaller riders, so that still helped some. It would be nice if future comparisons could use Bob's shorter wife if she's near 4' 11".
Turning radius: Just don't, it's a wrench in layers of duct tape with a mound of flies in contaminated ointments stuck to it, tossed into rusty works after years of neglect, and sealed in a can of worms best left un-opened.
I do wish I could compare turning radius, it's important to me. As a 2 wheel commuter, shopper, errand runner, I often turn very tightly and on rare occasions I make a U-turn in the isle between parking lines. I think I could not do this on some bikes I've tested, but I know familiarity would help if I owned them.
The wheel base and lock-to-lock bar/fork angle gives a starting picture, however adding a modest 20° lean shortens the radius of my bike by more than two feet. More lean gives better results. Width of tires changes the amount of effect leaning has. Many people on the same model of bike will have very different turn radius depending on level of comfort with leaning at slow speeds and what speed they are confident keeping in a turn. Another factor is confidence in being at full lock when your body tells you you need play in the bars to maintain balance.
Suppose we use the starter figure of a person walking the bike straight up at full lock? Newer riders would stop looking at many bikes that could not pass the testing requirements without lean. Owners would strongly object because all bikes can do WAY smaller circles than a straight up full lock radius.
I think you gave us all the numbers we need to have an idea about which may be more nimble in general.
Thanks again!
Thanks Randy, appreciate the feedback and you're welcome! In case you're unaware my 'Do I Fit' Series features 5'3" and 5'6" riders. I now have over 120 bikes tested in that series. You can find them listed alphabetically right here. tinyurl.com/DO-I-FIT-Videos
This is a very interesting and thorough analysis but ultimately doesn’t a bike really come down to how it makes you feel?
Yes it does! 👍
The Scout is just downright gorgeous. I'd have to go with the Scout myself
The Scout Hands Down.
My man 😎
Would love to see Scout Bobber vs Chief Dark Horse!
I love both bikes. Honda for longevity, Indian for that American grunt and cruiser look
Amazingly, here in Germany the Bobber is 50 % more expensive than the Rebel
And in Austria the Rebel already costs 12k or 13k for the DCT version. But seems like the Indian seems a good alternative (price wise) to the HD, if you want to try and join certain clubs, that ask for an American bike with 1200 CC minimum...
Well, this video helped me make a decision. Love the cruiser riding style, but like to be able to have fun on some twisties a little bit when I want to lol. I'm gonna get the Rebel 1100. Seems like such a fun bike to replace my '09 Kawi ER6N
Odds are there is a Honda dealer in my neighborhood rather than an Indian dealer. And Honda has a reputation for reliability. Both bikes should come stock with a much better suspension system.
You deserve a follow after all that work.
Any chance you can or have compared the rebel to an Indian Rogue? Looking into these two for my first cruiser type of bike for longer rides as I currently own a sportsbike
Although the specs are similar for both bikes, I had chosen the Indian Scout standard. It is hands down the more unique bike that grabs the attention of many riders, only because it is an Indian, and not a HD or an import.
personally i think the Indian would win in a 1/4 drag, the downside to the Rebel 1100, is the computer kills it at 100MPH on both the DTC and Manual models. Also the front end of the Rebel is super super light at high speeds which causes some instability on the front end, but again you could be hitting that 100 by that 1/4 mile mark
You may be right Chris. It would be interesting to see how much impact that limiter would have on the quarter mile. 👍
I want both of them.
Scout bobber is a 1133 displacement and I’m rate them 👍 cool vid
Thank you 👍
HONDA for me
honda have tried turning an in line twin into a cruiser , just lop the seat unit off put some crap shox on it call it a cruiser
Thank you for your cotribution to the Internet of NonSense!
You're welcome! :)
I used to have a rebel 500 so naturally I'd choose the Rebel 1100. however I actually upgraded to a H-D Iron instead
Perhaps you could have included electronics on these bikes to complete the comparison ( even though you mentioned these on Rebel at the end ) ?
As good a bike as Rebel may be, its ordinary looks are a big turn off for me !
I’m not sure I’d call bobbed styling and a parallel twin “ordinary.” Frankly, it’s stunning to see it in person. The muffler is still a bit of an eye-sore, but I’ve seen no end of cat-calls, “wow”, and “nice bike, dude,” in the little bit of time I’ve been riding her around.
I should also mention the paint, too. The gunmetal black metallic can best be described as like a dark, polished marble. It’s hard to put into words how gorgeous the paint is.
@@altortugas5979 It’s glad that you liked the looks.. I myself own a parallel twin Kawasaki Vulcan S, so I didn’t refer to the engine as ordinary..
When you are talking about cruisers, the type of engine used integral to the aesthetics; as a naked bike, the engine is part of the “looks.” Parallel twins, in this class of bike, are not an “ordinary” look.
Weird, I'd say the Scout looks the most ordinary out of the two, although neither are really all that ordinary looking. The Rebel just looks so different compared to pretty much anything that comes to mind. What makes you call it ordinary?
The Rebel would be my choice because it's the better value for me and my riding style. However, the Scout will likely hold a higher price value further down the road than the Rebel simply because it's an Indian Scout.
It's a lot like comparing two eligible ladies. The Rebel looks good, is more intelligent, has the better job and therefore would be the WISER choice....but come on now....just look at those beautifully colorful lines and sexy styling on that Scout, haha. 😋
Don't get me wrong, the honda probably has a more reliable engine, but i will take the Scout at any given day of the week, coz the Rebel, to me, just looks bland and too simple and doesn't have any character....
Have you seen any of these bike in person. The rebel 1100 it's a great looking machine in person. I have an 500. And love it
@@raulsantacruz4317 yes i've seen the rebel in person and had a a test drive too, while i owned the indian scout for two years, before i sold it to upgrade, now i'm planning to buy the Triumph Rocket 3 Roadster or the GT...👍👍👍
I agree, that Rebel just looks bad. Tank shape looks horrible, and it has such a weak chin. The Rebel looks like a sloppy mix of a naked bike and a cruiser.
I'd have the Rebel. In fact I'm going to buy a DCT version.
Thanks for this interesting, well done comparison!
Scout is such a beautiful ride, I overlook it's short comings! Nothing against Honda but for me Indian all the way!!
Rebel also has 100Mph limiter and is reported to be kinda unstable at higher speeds. Given that limiter can be downright dangerous when you need to make quick pass at highway I'd never buy a bike with it to begin with and Indian has its own downsides with suspension and pricing. Sadly neither of these seems like that much upgrade from Kawasaki vulcan 650 so I guess the wait for something to upgrade to continues.
I'm a fan of the Vulcan 650 too. I haven't ridden the Rebel 1100 but I have ridden the Scout Bobber Twenty and I can attest it is a very impressive bike. My ride review of the Scout Bobber Twenty ruclips.net/video/nwSK8B1iX5w/видео.html
Excelent comparison, High level comments! Congrats
Thank you very much! 👍
That Honda looks like it was styled by a backyard chop shop. Should be comparing Triumph Bobber or Speedmaster to the Indian Scout
I think 🤔 we need a real world test as a part 2 to this video to confirm your theory
Excellent visual aids on the spec comparisons
Thank you! 👍
I've seen a few videos that show the Honda gets squirrelly at top speeds. I would imagine that the Indian, with its longer wheelbase and oversized front tire would be more stable on the highway.
Yes I have seen one video where the Rebel was shaking it's head at high speed, I didn't know there were more. After my recent test ride I can confirm the Scout is stable at highway speed. ruclips.net/video/nwSK8B1iX5w/видео.html
If it’s the same video I saw where he was testing top speed? It was his camera/phone mount that caused it. Once he removed it and tested it, it didn’t wobble anymore.
Honda limits the Rebel 1100 top speed to 99mph. No reason to do that unless they are putting maypop tires on it or it’s unstable at speed. The scouts are limited to 120mph.
Thank you so much for the specs! Especially for the seat height, what good is a bike, if you're too short to ride it?
You're welcome, thank you 👍
for me it comes down to 2 factors; the DCT version of the Rebel is abou the same price (and only in the 1100 for what ever reason) as the Scout, and the Rebel with the half-tank look and exposed frame; is going through an identity crisis, like a cruiser version of a Ducati.
the Scout is a fatter; lower more stable unappologetic Cruiser.
Well earned subscription Bil. Thank you so much. Do you recommend the rebel 1100 for a beginner?
Thanks Calvin! It'll depend on your own personal experiences. Some beginners, although never having ridden a road bike have grown up riding dirt bikes etc and some beginners have never even sat on a bike. With that said I'd still be more comfortable recommending the Rebel 500 for a beginner.
Really detailed, nicely done. Subscribed.
Wonderful spec review. You earned your sub good Sir. Please keep doing these comparisons. Greetings from 🇺🇸
Thanks for the sub Apollyon! Will do 👍