I agree 100% I spent the past year looking at the scout and couldn't find a bike I thought was better looking and it has all the power I need. I finally got the money up to order a 2023 scout rogue.
Good video. I was test riding the Indian, but after checking out the Rebel I had to get the Rebel DCT. I got 10,000 miles on it now and I love it. It's great in the custom programming mode. Greetings from the Jersey shore US.
I bought a2022 rebel dct and I love it it’s fast and has all the bell& whistles most others can’t compare too For the price. I thought about the scout but got more bang for my buck with the Honda.
I have to admit the scout is definitely better looking but after riding my wife's ctx700n dct. The rebel 1100 dct will be next bike! I absolutely love not having to shift but still have the push button option to shift and go through actual gears. That along with nearly double the power of the ctx and all the other benefits. It's a no brainer for me.
I pwn a rebel 500 and just bought the 2024 scout rogue. I know the rebel 500 is not the same league power wise, but its still the same frame and overall feeling (vs the 1100) About everything in the video is true. I prefer the handling of the rebel, but the scout is way better looking. Less leaning angle on the scout which is really annoying. The scout sucks when it comes to instruments: no gas meter, only a stupid gas light, no actual gauge. Rear suspension travel is baaad on the scout, and already kuch better on the rebel (even if its bad compared to so many other bikes. Ther are cruisers tho)
I've had my Scout Bobber a year now, nothing beats the feeling of walking up or walking away from that bike knowing its yours. It's hands down the most beautiful bike iIve ever seen.
Just on looks alone…I hope to own one some day. I have a Rebel and I like the look of it. But that Scout is by far the best looking bike off the dealership floor.
i've had bought the Indian Scout Bobber last Friday as my first Motorcycle. I also had a look at the Rebel, but even if it is cheaper and possibly technically superior, it is the feeling that counts for me when I see and ride this beautiful motorcycle.
As a Rebel 1100DCT owner, I absolutely love the Indian and their looks. The closest Indian Dealership is over 2 hours from me however. Plus, that DCT is such an unbeatable option for me. I work in IT and suffer from Carpal Tunnel frequently in my left hand. So being able to ride without having to squeeze a clutch in the event of a flair up is a god send allowing me to be able to ride more. But if I had the money and a close enough dealer, I would totally buy an Indian Scout as a secondary bike. For me, to have to choose between, the Rebel 1100 takes the cake with it's features, price and good ol' Honda Reliability. Also the familiarity. My first bike was a Rebel 300 and I learned on a Rebel 250 in my Motorcycle Class. But, If I had to choose an Indian. A Chieftain Dark Horse in that Matte White is *chiefs kiss*
I too am a CMX1100 DCT owner (2021) and your comment is absolutely incredible about how close our thoughts are. With a few mods like a Corbin seat, higher bars, and cooler-sounding exhaust, my Rebel is almost perfect. I recently installed the Power Commander Dyno Jet 6 on my bike and performance, balancing, and fuel economy have all improved beyond expectations. Now, the Indian Dark Horse does appeal to me and if that lottery ticket stuck to our frig hits, it'll be a different story...haha Goldwing, with a CVO parked next to it for starters...get my drift?
I'd go for the Scout Bobber but here in Germany the Rebel 1100 is similar to the Dollar price while the Scout Bobber starts at around 16k Euros... So yeah, we have to pay a hefty premium on Indians here. It's really sad because they are the best looking bikes out there imo.
Im in America, even for around the same price, I am leaning towards the 1100, just because of the technology. The Indian hands down looks better though.
I'm a bit torn, however owning a Rebel 500, and absolutely loving it on twisty roads, and hearing how the 1100 does everything better, I'm definitely leaning towards the rebel 1100.
Even though I ride a Scout I think either would be a great choice. But I would have to give the edge to Honda,having owed a Honda they are great bikes with great support system behind them.
@@TheGarthinator I have scraped the pegs a few times on the Scout. For my money the Scout is capable in the twisty roads. Can the Honda lean over more ? Yes it does but I think it’s like 29 degrees for the Bobber and the Hondas is 35 degrees. So 6% difference and I don’t think it’s a huge factor really but that’s just my opinion besides you’re not meant to drag your knees on a cruiser
I reserved a Rebel 1100 they told me it would be black. But when it came in it was maroon. They told me to take it or leave it I ride a 2019 Indian Scout Bobber now
Rebel for me. Looks like a much more comfy ride for longer distances, with cruise, and looks amazing as well. I prefer the lighter weight too. Great vid!
The stock seats on any of them are going to be awful, but the stock shocks on the Rebel should be a bit better than anything Indian provides on a Scout (certainly better than the spine smashers of the Bobber).
I have a 2022 Rebel 1100 and love it! One of my coworkers has the Indian Scout Bobber. And he says it’s uncomfortable to ride longer then a short commute to and from work.
As a scout bobber owner I love it. Good review, and my only gripes about the bike would be it having better suspension and brakes; I could care less about all the other crap they put on bikes.
Thanks for a great vid (and, YES, I'm a subscriber!). I'd buy a Honda Rebel 1100 in a heartbeat, but ONLY IF it had a 5+ US gallon fuel tank. This could be the perfect solo light touring machine for smaller people. So close, yet so far! (Maybe someone will make an aftermarket tank?) Additionally, if I had money to burn, I'd also get the Scout. It is truly a gorgeous machine.
works ok for me for long miles. I don't like riding more than 100ish miles before taking a break anyways. Depending on the conditions, how loaded down I am, and how fast I am going, I can get around 120-150 miles from full to empty with the 3.3 gallons. The gas isn't what is annoying, its the chain... I love almost everything about this bike except the chain, its way too much work for doing long miles.
I'm a cruiser rider and I really don't like the look of either of them. The Indian Chief bikes are good looking, but the Scouts are another story. Still better than the current generation Rebel which look like a cruiser and a naked sport bike had a baby and mom was taking thalidomide.
One good point for the scout would be that it is belt driven compared to the chain Honda and the Twin Motor is considered one of the top designed ones from Indian ever. Can t say too much about the Rebel. It probably is an awesome bike but I m just in love with the Indian. …. We just don’t talk about the godawefull stockseat and shocks.
@@OD_Plays Oof, even bad on the Rogue? That's a shame. Hope the upgrade helped, though! I LOVE the look of the Rogue, and the seat should be infinitely better than that rectal violation of a Bobber seat!
Love my Rebel 1100. It was my first ever bike and was nice having all the different riding modes to learn on. Full power on, it can take the twistiest roads you throw at it. It is a little more cramped and the stock seat is rough but both can be fixed with a few extra purchases
I got really lucky with my Rebel 1100 because that thing sells before it even gets to the island. The Scout is sexy and it is the bike that I wanted. But looking at the specs and seeing all the reviews I’m happy with my Rebel. It’s not a looker but I’ve put lane splitters on, front fairing, and headlight cowl to pimp it out a bit. I transferred from sport bikes to cruisers so it was awkward at first. Even so it’s pretty fun on the twisties. It’s a lifer…I’m keeping this bike till I or it dies. My only complaints is the seat and the amount of bounce the headlight has at night. Wish the tank had a better capacity but other than that…she’s amazing!
Riding a manual Rebel, the gas tank is the biggest pain. I absolutely love the Indian’s design, forward controls and aftermarket accessories available. However the options (especially ABS) was the reason I leaned towards the Rebel. Safety over fashion!
I have the dct version but i agree, gas tank is too small. Somehow rebel 500 felt like it had more range. But the bike does do everything else really good
I spent a bit of time comparing them myself 14 months ago and was two days away from putting money on the Honda. There is just too much that the scout doesn't have (traction control, cruise control and rider modes) that makes a huge difference. Like you I really loved the look of the Scout though and was tempted regardless. Turns out HD announced the Sportster S on the Wednesday and I was at the Harley dealership two days later instead. No regrets at all. Having said that, I would love to see the Sportster S compared to the Indian FTR-S or the Indian Chief. I think for any of those bikes, they are so even that it comes down to styling and ergonomics.
Had a rebel 110 DCT - BEWARE I owned a rebel 1100 DCT for a couple of months and had a major, major problem. I had my bike service at 450 miles. On my ride home I noticed that the bike DCT transmission was engaging while I was stopped. I ignored the issue hoping that it was an one off. After riding the bike for ~200 miles the DCT transmission engaged again while I was stopped and the bike transmission/power over rode the braking system (Front and Back brakes) and took off. I tried with all of my energy to stop the bike but it wouldn't hold. I ended up crashing into a wall, broke a couple of ribs and my collar bone. I do not know if this has happened to anyone else? There is no clutch to override so BEWARE and practice hitting the kill switch!
i tried em both and yes the honda has more options and was more agile but i couldnt help but notice that everything on the honda kinda felt cheap to me. The Indian def is more simple and robust/brute so i kinda was convinced by that + its looks Now i have the bobber for 1 year, its a sick bike everywhere i go ppl take pictures, aks me about it etc...the biggest flaws are its suspension and stock seat, now indian has some diff options for it. Some complain about it having no fuel-gauge but im used to having none, in a way the simplicity and lack of some options binds you more with the bike
What about the sitting position? From what i read most replace the bars with miniapes for better comfort Seat and miniapes would add another $1000 , plus possibly LED headlight so it's like $1300 additional spend I think Honda has that sorted Oh and definitely V&H exhaust for indian :D
@@flesz_ well you can get the bobber twenty those have mini-apes stock but im a bigger guy and i have no problems with the regular bars, well im normal height but bulky xD very tall people often need forward controls on the scout, thats a thing that isnt stock but nice that its easily done i got my led headlight from amazon for like 50$, so id say the aftermarket isnt as big as Harley but i guess bigger than the rebel's. Led was a must since i often ride at night and stock halogen isnt worth a thing at night and i dont have nightvision issues xd in an old car i would forget them even xD
@@flesz_ if you're worried about sitting position the Scout Rogue is great. It pushes your butt a bit more forward, has a "mid-forward" control on the pegs and it comes with mini apes. It's like a mix between a 3/4 and upright sitting position. I'm 5'11" with a short torso, longer legs if that helps at all.
Another factor that should be considered is chain vs belt final drive. While belts aren't as efficient in transferring power from engine to tire, they don't require as much maintenance. It's the big reason why both the Scout and the Harley Nightster feel tempting compared to the Rebel. The Scout, at this point, is the oldest design, so it has fewer features, but it's also by far the best looking (and using the Bobber for your comparison is really unfair here, as that seat and shocks are the worst of the lot for Indian, so the Rogue might have been a better choice to compare). The Nightster is probably the best all-round bike, with the performance and features surpassing both other bikes, but the left side is even more unkempt and hideous as the ugliest parts of the Rebel, and the price is obscene. To be clear: I love all three, I want all three, and I can't justify buying any of them. Any one of them is going to be amazing. Just know what you're getting into.
to me... even tho I love the new tech on bikes.... its an easy decision.. The indian wins hands down on the cool/look department.. I will take a pretty hot girl any time over the ugly one..
Great video. I've owned two small 'zuki cruisers & last year bought a Honda ADV 150 scooter (from an Indian dealership). I immediately fell in love with the scooter. DCT, Baby! *In all seriousness, lookin' @ the 1100T, Triumph Bonneville Sportmaster, Indian Super Chief / Springfield / Chieftain. . . . Sturgis '25. I love my scooter. It should remain my daily commuter. Tryna find the right bike capable for the long hauls/vacations & practical/stylish for riding around town when I want a little more oomph.
Scout bobber's style is super cool. However, there are almost no dealers in Japan. Also, the price (tax included) is 1.1 million yen for Rebel and 2 million yen for Scout. It's not worth talking about. Rebel is effectively the only option. I want the Scouts to work harder.
I road a Scout... I bought a Rebel 1100. Overall for just about everything the Rebel wins for me. It rides so much better in every way... I am hoping they do a major overhaul to the Scout sometime soon. The only reason I want to get rid of my Rebel for something else, is I want something better for touring... so a little bigger and no stupid chain to keep the maintenance on. I think its so stupid they used a chain.
It's funny how he keeps saying the Indian is more powerful. Forget the weight difference. If you put both of these bikes on the dyno the wheel horsepower will be identical, because chain drive loses way less power than a belt drive system. Then on top of that you calculate in the power to weight ratio The Honda is way ahead in both horsepower and torque. If you had this Honda rebel up against that Indian at a stoplight or even cruising at 30 mph rolling star The rebel will win every single time on the initial acceleration. Maybe the Indian will catch up after 100 mph but that doesn't matter because you don't buy a cruiser to do over 100 mph. If I wanted to go that fast I'd buy a supersport.
Nope the India Chief Darkhorse is the winner, i own a Rebell1100, but is becaus of price. I rode the sxout and it was ok, bu the indian Dark horse is just a work of art. Now i teated the Rebell and it gave me way more relax points and it was way cheaper.
Owned a Honda CBR954RR for 20 yrs now......at the age of 50, i'm gonna slow down and buy a Rebel 1100 for the longer, lazy rides. You just can't beat the reliability of a Honda.
@@davdankvinci345 Hardly, and to add to that, the psychotic left will likely declare the name 'Indian' as offensive or Racist and require the company to change it's name to "Native American" in the future...lmao.
Honda is too expensive. That’s almost the same money as a Harley Nightster or some of the Triumph Bonneville twins. Plus the biggest detractor with the Honda is it almost looks identical to the significantly cheaper Rebel 500, which is far better priced. Should have been around $15,000, not in the $20,000 range
So I rode for years I haven't been on a bike in a little while. Raising kids and a little illness. I've been looking at a bunch of bikes I saw a r18 BMW that was gorgeous it was black. Indian is a nice bike, they have a lot of options that is cool but I can tell you this they are pricey and they remind me of victory. Now how long they'll be around his question and the Honda is tried and true they work like mules.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I do like Rebel looks more. So for me it was no brainer which to choose. (out of the Scout lineup I did even like Scout Rogue more than Bobber, but still Rebel won). Also did you yourself try them both out? It kind of sounded like you compared the paper specs, hearsay from forums and just your own eyes to look at them, but no real rider experience. Could have compared the fuel economy also yourself while at that -- hearsay isn't really good for that.
Hey bubba, how about talking in gallons and miles. America is where I imagine most of your viewers reside. And while we’re at it give me how many cubic inches. It wasn’t until the eighties that the Harley 74 translated to 1200 cc. Just saying - do me the favor. Thanks
If you prefer the scout over the rebel you ass and knees must be numb, brain as well. The rebel flat out beats the scout in every aspect but “looks”, which is extremely subjective. honestly the rebel is a total beast, the suspension is good, aesthetics are good, rider modes are good, and the torque/power from it are good. Don’t know why you’d sacrifice all that for looks and still lie to yourself saying the scout is the better bike.
The conclusion is a bit strange. Better on paper Rebel or more beautiful Scout. Rebel is objectively better tham Scout in more than 50% of cases, so it isn't only on paper. Anyways, it's a personal taste and it's the best if they are tried before deciding. 👍
If the scout had the same features as the rebel and a dct option hands down would of been one of the best bikes out. But if i could ill go with scout first then buy a rebel for the dct because of health complications.
I would take either one, because I go for eye appeal and to me they both have it. With the edge going to the Indian Scout. Also, the Honda Rebel looks like a cheaper made bike. But for some reason, I'd rather be seen on an Indian or a HD..... than anything else. And I prefer a belt to a chain
It’s all subjective in my opinion. I chose the 2022 Honda Rebel CMX1100 DCT for its quality, performance, value and reliability! Also I like the design of the Rebel with that “stuffed in” engine look. It has its own identity when it comes to the looks and design. Honda thought out of the box with this one. I definitely get more bang for my buck with this bike!! Beauty is truly in the eye of the beholder! 👍
Idk, I think you're way off on the MPG for the Rebel. Life of Burch did a video on MPG with the 1100 and got 55mpg (4.27l/100km), Bennetts did a review and got about the same, Fuelly shows people reporting about 47mpg (5l/100km), and I see the forums reporting around that 46-47mpg mark in the forums. Looking at Fuelly, people are reporting about the same mpg for the scout, meaning it should be lower distance.
So what makes for good brakes? I believe two discs are better than one, but it adds weight and clutter. How about a large diameter disc with 6 pistons? I like to hear my tire when I brake hard. On the dry pavement especially, I listen to the front tire tell me where my braking is. It warns me long before any trouble. I let it speak to me. I attribute that to the fact that I have two discs up front. I figure they average things out. 3 or 4 would be better, I assume, but that would be much clutter, weight, and also a bit weird.
In the UK getting an Indian is pretty difficult. But even for a sports bike guy, the Indian smashes it on looks and attention to detail and design. However, the dct Honda is super cheap to buy.... The Indian Scout is far more expensive in the UK. For me the DCT model is a clear winner.
Service! I can get a Honda repaired in just about any city in the U.S. My nearest Indian dealer is 3 hours away and I'm guessing long term maintenance on the Indian is bound to be more involved.
Bigger platform? The Rebel 1100 is a very cramped bike and suited to people of smaller sizeand or younger athletic folks, whereas the Indian Scout is a much more relaxed riding style. I wish Honda would use the 1100 motor in an updated version to their CTX700 series from 2014 to 2018, which was a much more comfortable bike to ride for a lot of us. However I am sold on the DCT transmissions, and the Honda CTX 700 dct I have is a nice change of pace from my Victory Cross Country.
yeah, i am confused. i ride a Rebel 500(2019)now, i like the style of the Indian. i sat on one during bike week in Daytona, it was really, really nice. i like the look of the Rebel 1100, just like my Rebel, but more power. i like the weight of the Rebel, water cooled, compared to oil? oh well, when i get ready to get a new bike i'll give them both a better look. oh yeah, price difference, not a lot, but with my finances, Honda wins.
Might want to also look into the bikes lean angle too? I’ve done a bit of research on my own and while these and the Harley nightster or fatbob are great competitors also… the nightster and the rebel are marketed as more of a “sport cruiser” with better lean angles but still retaining some of the cruiser style and ergonomics. Just felt that is worth mentioning as they have slightly different target audiences. While both being a cruiser one is more agile and “playful” the other is more style and grunt….
That scout is sexy though. It's really low. I really love the look. I was also looking at a Triumph Rocket R3... its almost double the price...but thats sexy to me also... the price is a factor here. If the money wasn't a thing, as beautiful as the scout look I would go after the Rocket
2022 manual rebel owner here. i'm 6'0" and 270 lb and 60 yrs old. originally the rider triangle was tight, but new seat and forward controls fixed that. my biggest complaint is the small fuel tank. years ago, i had a suzuki 550e with a bigger capacity. biggest plus is the cruise control. i can relax my grip on the throttle and that really help due to arthritis in the right thumb. it is a very sporty ride.
Got the bobber titanium..drove bouth..Honda is all about tech and lightness..Indian scout bobber is just real bike..love it upgraded the rear shocks and seats perfect and looks beautiful...
I bought the Scout Bobber in 2021 and I love it. Living in the US mid-west this bike is perfect for daily riding or for longer weekend trips out-of-town.
I just realized how superficial I am. No matter how good the Rebel is, I just can't get over how beautiful the Scout looks.
I agree 100% I spent the past year looking at the scout and couldn't find a bike I thought was better looking and it has all the power I need. I finally got the money up to order a 2023 scout rogue.
In the eye of the beholder! I prefer the looks of the Rebel!
I can't get over how bland they both look, and the new Sportsters are just as dull.
If you don't walk away and have to turn around and admire your bike, you are on the wrong one. The honda looks to be built to a price.
I know bruh lol
Good video. I was test riding the Indian, but after checking out the Rebel I had to get the Rebel DCT.
I got 10,000 miles on it now and I love it. It's great in the custom programming mode.
Greetings from the Jersey shore US.
I’m having the same dilemma. The bobber looks way better . But I’d love the modern features and dct
But its automatic..
I bought a2022 rebel dct and I love it it’s fast and has all the bell& whistles most others can’t compare too
For the price. I thought about the scout but got more bang for my buck with the Honda.
I have to admit the scout is definitely better looking but after riding my wife's ctx700n dct. The rebel 1100 dct will be next bike! I absolutely love not having to shift but still have the push button option to shift and go through actual gears. That along with nearly double the power of the ctx and all the other benefits. It's a no brainer for me.
I pwn a rebel 500 and just bought the 2024 scout rogue. I know the rebel 500 is not the same league power wise, but its still the same frame and overall feeling (vs the 1100)
About everything in the video is true. I prefer the handling of the rebel, but the scout is way better looking. Less leaning angle on the scout which is really annoying. The scout sucks when it comes to instruments: no gas meter, only a stupid gas light, no actual gauge. Rear suspension travel is baaad on the scout, and already kuch better on the rebel (even if its bad compared to so many other bikes. Ther are cruisers tho)
I love my scout awesome bike!
I like them both. However, in UK Indian cost few grand more than honda
I've had my Scout Bobber a year now, nothing beats the feeling of walking up or walking away from that bike knowing its yours. It's hands down the most beautiful bike iIve ever seen.
The bobber is beautiful that I'm going for my motorcycle safety course and permit and next spring buying a Scout Bobber.
Just on looks alone…I hope to own one some day. I have a Rebel and I like the look of it. But that Scout is by far the best looking bike off the dealership floor.
Did you change the exhaust? All videos I saw make it sound very quiet
@@eternalstudent82 yes, almost immediately. I got the RCX Slash Cuts. World of difference. Sound matches the aesthetic now.
Scout looks just amazing with that unmistakeable presence when it shows up.
My Heart: Indian
My Brain: Rebel
I have a Scout Bobber. I love it, it's the most beautiful wife I can afford at this time!!!
I have the Rebel 1100 DCT and I love it. If I were do again, I would pick the Honda.
i've had bought the Indian Scout Bobber last Friday as my first Motorcycle. I also had a look at the Rebel, but even if it is cheaper and possibly technically superior, it is the feeling that counts for me when I see and ride this beautiful motorcycle.
As a Rebel 1100DCT owner, I absolutely love the Indian and their looks. The closest Indian Dealership is over 2 hours from me however. Plus, that DCT is such an unbeatable option for me. I work in IT and suffer from Carpal Tunnel frequently in my left hand. So being able to ride without having to squeeze a clutch in the event of a flair up is a god send allowing me to be able to ride more. But if I had the money and a close enough dealer, I would totally buy an Indian Scout as a secondary bike.
For me, to have to choose between, the Rebel 1100 takes the cake with it's features, price and good ol' Honda Reliability. Also the familiarity. My first bike was a Rebel 300 and I learned on a Rebel 250 in my Motorcycle Class.
But, If I had to choose an Indian. A Chieftain Dark Horse in that Matte White is *chiefs kiss*
I too am a CMX1100 DCT owner (2021) and your comment is absolutely incredible about how close our thoughts are.
With a few mods like a Corbin seat, higher bars, and cooler-sounding exhaust, my Rebel is almost perfect.
I recently installed the Power Commander Dyno Jet 6 on my bike and performance, balancing, and fuel economy have all improved beyond expectations.
Now, the Indian Dark Horse does appeal to me and if that lottery ticket stuck to our frig hits, it'll be a different story...haha
Goldwing, with a CVO parked next to it for starters...get my drift?
I'd go for the Scout Bobber but here in Germany the Rebel 1100 is similar to the Dollar price while the Scout Bobber starts at around 16k Euros... So yeah, we have to pay a hefty premium on Indians here. It's really sad because they are the best looking bikes out there imo.
Im in America, even for around the same price, I am leaning towards the 1100, just because of the technology. The Indian hands down looks better though.
I like the rebel better. Just got one for my wife and it’s crazy quick. Can’t beat a honda. It also has the DCT transmission which is sweet.
I'm a bit torn, however owning a Rebel 500, and absolutely loving it on twisty roads, and hearing how the 1100 does everything better, I'm definitely leaning towards the rebel 1100.
Even though I ride a Scout I think either would be a great choice. But I would have to give the edge to Honda,having owed a Honda they are great bikes with great support system behind them.
@@mrmurphy8609 how does the Scout do on a twisty road, imo it definitely has more curb appeal than the honda
@@TheGarthinator I have scraped the pegs a few times on the Scout. For my money the Scout is capable in the twisty roads. Can the Honda lean over more ? Yes it does but I think it’s like 29 degrees for the Bobber and the Hondas is 35 degrees.
So 6% difference and I don’t think it’s a huge factor really but that’s just my opinion besides you’re not meant to drag your knees on a cruiser
@@mrmurphy8609 totally, although the honda is tbh more of a naked bike dressed like a cruiser
@@TheGarthinator yup no arguments there.
I like Indian .....thump up !!!!
thumb up !!!!
Rebel 1100, works for me. Honda reliability!
These two are so hard for me to choose from 😩💔
Rebel all the way. The rear suspension on te scout wouldnt cut it for me. Plus the Rebel is a HONDA. The Rebel exhaust is UGLY though.
I reserved a Rebel 1100 they told me it would be black. But when it came in it was maroon. They told me to take it or leave it
I ride a 2019 Indian Scout Bobber now
Lmao 🤣🤣🤣🤣 nice brother .... they deserved it
Rebel for me. Looks like a much more comfy ride for longer distances, with cruise, and looks amazing as well. I prefer the lighter weight too. Great vid!
The stock seats on any of them are going to be awful, but the stock shocks on the Rebel should be a bit better than anything Indian provides on a Scout (certainly better than the spine smashers of the Bobber).
I have a 2022 Rebel 1100 and love it! One of my coworkers has the Indian Scout Bobber. And he says it’s uncomfortable to ride longer then a short commute to and from work.
Just get the 10 inch mini ape handlebars for $175 and it fixes everything. Becomes the most comfortable bike I’ve been on.
Or if you don't like apehangers then get some risers
As a scout bobber owner I love it. Good review, and my only gripes about the bike would be it having better suspension and brakes; I could care less about all the other crap they put on bikes.
You mean, "I couldn't care less." If you could care less, then you haven't said anything about how little you care.
Thanks for a great vid (and, YES, I'm a subscriber!). I'd buy a Honda Rebel 1100 in a heartbeat, but ONLY IF it had a 5+ US gallon fuel tank. This could be the perfect solo light touring machine for smaller people. So close, yet so far! (Maybe someone will make an aftermarket tank?) Additionally, if I had money to burn, I'd also get the Scout. It is truly a gorgeous machine.
works ok for me for long miles. I don't like riding more than 100ish miles before taking a break anyways. Depending on the conditions, how loaded down I am, and how fast I am going, I can get around 120-150 miles from full to empty with the 3.3 gallons. The gas isn't what is annoying, its the chain... I love almost everything about this bike except the chain, its way too much work for doing long miles.
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I'm a cruiser rider and I really don't like the look of either of them. The Indian Chief bikes are good looking, but the Scouts are another story. Still better than the current generation Rebel which look like a cruiser and a naked sport bike had a baby and mom was taking thalidomide.
One good point for the scout would be that it is belt driven compared to the chain Honda and the Twin Motor is considered one of the top designed ones from Indian ever.
Can t say too much about the Rebel. It probably is an awesome bike but I m just in love with the Indian. …. We just don’t talk about the godawefull stockseat and shocks.
The shocks are horrible i replaced them after a month of owning my rogue
@@OD_Plays Oof, even bad on the Rogue? That's a shame. Hope the upgrade helped, though! I LOVE the look of the Rogue, and the seat should be infinitely better than that rectal violation of a Bobber seat!
@@packgrog yes man so much back pain before i changed the shocks and now its like riding in a suv its amazing
Love my Rebel 1100. It was my first ever bike and was nice having all the different riding modes to learn on. Full power on, it can take the twistiest roads you throw at it. It is a little more cramped and the stock seat is rough but both can be fixed with a few extra purchases
I got really lucky with my Rebel 1100 because that thing sells before it even gets to the island. The Scout is sexy and it is the bike that I wanted. But looking at the specs and seeing all the reviews I’m happy with my Rebel. It’s not a looker but I’ve put lane splitters on, front fairing, and headlight cowl to pimp it out a bit. I transferred from sport bikes to cruisers so it was awkward at first. Even so it’s pretty fun on the twisties. It’s a lifer…I’m keeping this bike till I or it dies. My only complaints is the seat and the amount of bounce the headlight has at night. Wish the tank had a better capacity but other than that…she’s amazing!
Riding a manual Rebel, the gas tank is the biggest pain. I absolutely love the Indian’s design, forward controls and aftermarket accessories available. However the options (especially ABS) was the reason I leaned towards the Rebel. Safety over fashion!
I have the dct version but i agree, gas tank is too small. Somehow rebel 500 felt like it had more range. But the bike does do everything else really good
I agree that the tank is too small, I can go further on my Monkey's 5.6 lier tank ;) Over 300 km on a full tank :D
U can get a scout ABS
I spent a bit of time comparing them myself 14 months ago and was two days away from putting money on the Honda. There is just too much that the scout doesn't have (traction control, cruise control and rider modes) that makes a huge difference. Like you I really loved the look of the Scout though and was tempted regardless. Turns out HD announced the Sportster S on the Wednesday and I was at the Harley dealership two days later instead. No regrets at all.
Having said that, I would love to see the Sportster S compared to the Indian FTR-S or the Indian Chief. I think for any of those bikes, they are so even that it comes down to styling and ergonomics.
Had a rebel 110 DCT - BEWARE
I owned a rebel 1100 DCT for a couple of months and had a major, major problem. I had my bike service at 450 miles. On my ride home I noticed that the bike DCT transmission was engaging while I was stopped. I ignored the issue hoping that it was an one off. After riding the bike for ~200 miles the DCT transmission engaged again while I was stopped and the bike transmission/power over rode the braking system (Front and Back brakes) and took off. I tried with all of my energy to stop the bike but it wouldn't hold. I ended up crashing into a wall, broke a couple of ribs and my collar bone. I do not know if this has happened to anyone else? There is no clutch to override so BEWARE and practice hitting the kill switch!
No one complained about that . Only time will say the truth about u saying the true or indian scout paid u to do that 🧐
i tried em both and yes the honda has more options and was more agile but i couldnt help but notice that everything on the honda kinda felt cheap to me.
The Indian def is more simple and robust/brute so i kinda was convinced by that + its looks
Now i have the bobber for 1 year, its a sick bike everywhere i go ppl take pictures, aks me about it etc...the biggest flaws are its suspension and stock seat, now indian has some diff options for it. Some complain about it having no fuel-gauge but im used to having none, in a way the simplicity and lack of some options binds you more with the bike
What about the sitting position?
From what i read most replace the bars with miniapes for better comfort
Seat and miniapes would add another $1000 , plus possibly LED headlight so it's like $1300 additional spend
I think Honda has that sorted
Oh and definitely V&H exhaust for indian :D
@@flesz_ well you can get the bobber twenty those have mini-apes stock but im a bigger guy and i have no problems with the regular bars, well im normal height but bulky xD
very tall people often need forward controls on the scout, thats a thing that isnt stock but nice that its easily done
i got my led headlight from amazon for like 50$, so id say the aftermarket isnt as big as Harley but i guess bigger than the rebel's. Led was a must since i often ride at night and stock halogen isnt worth a thing at night and i dont have nightvision issues xd in an old car i would forget them even xD
@@flesz_ if you're worried about sitting position the Scout Rogue is great. It pushes your butt a bit more forward, has a "mid-forward" control on the pegs and it comes with mini apes. It's like a mix between a 3/4 and upright sitting position. I'm 5'11" with a short torso, longer legs if that helps at all.
Another factor that should be considered is chain vs belt final drive. While belts aren't as efficient in transferring power from engine to tire, they don't require as much maintenance. It's the big reason why both the Scout and the Harley Nightster feel tempting compared to the Rebel.
The Scout, at this point, is the oldest design, so it has fewer features, but it's also by far the best looking (and using the Bobber for your comparison is really unfair here, as that seat and shocks are the worst of the lot for Indian, so the Rogue might have been a better choice to compare). The Nightster is probably the best all-round bike, with the performance and features surpassing both other bikes, but the left side is even more unkempt and hideous as the ugliest parts of the Rebel, and the price is obscene.
To be clear: I love all three, I want all three, and I can't justify buying any of them. Any one of them is going to be amazing. Just know what you're getting into.
Honda quality and reliability can’t be beat!
All that technology isn’t needed.
to me... even tho I love the new tech on bikes.... its an easy decision.. The indian wins hands down on the cool/look department.. I will take a pretty hot girl any time over the ugly one..
Scout Bobber all day long. Do you want to ride a cool bike with character and pedigree,......or just another ricer?
Getting one of each
Indian Scout Bobber. Here here. 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
Was between these 2. Now I'm between the Indian and the sportster s. Would love to see a review of that.
I have that comparison up on the channel already! Search my channel for it 👍🏻
The Honda is FUGLY. It's probably the (much) better bike, but man... it's ugly.
Great video. I've owned two small 'zuki cruisers & last year bought a Honda ADV 150 scooter (from an Indian dealership). I immediately fell in love with the scooter. DCT, Baby!
*In all seriousness, lookin' @ the 1100T, Triumph Bonneville Sportmaster, Indian Super Chief / Springfield / Chieftain. . . . Sturgis '25. I love my scooter. It should remain my daily commuter. Tryna find the right bike capable for the long hauls/vacations & practical/stylish for riding around town when I want a little more oomph.
currently in my country rebel 1100 literally cost half the price of indian scout... pricing is insane
I love my scout! Beautiful bike!
Scout bobber's style is super cool. However, there are almost no dealers in Japan. Also, the price (tax included) is 1.1 million yen for Rebel and 2 million yen for Scout. It's not worth talking about. Rebel is effectively the only option. I want the Scouts to work harder.
I road a Scout... I bought a Rebel 1100. Overall for just about everything the Rebel wins for me. It rides so much better in every way... I am hoping they do a major overhaul to the Scout sometime soon. The only reason I want to get rid of my Rebel for something else, is I want something better for touring... so a little bigger and no stupid chain to keep the maintenance on. I think its so stupid they used a chain.
There is a kit to make your chain into a belt on the rebel.
@@Jdmtunerlover I haven't seen any... any brand name or anything?
@Aya Wetts I saw it on a fb page on the rebel pages. I forgot the name or brand. You could ask there
Definitely and 100 % scout bobber for me!
The ISB shits all over the rebel in every category except for maybe comfort lol. Anyone choosing the rebel is mega coping.
I have a 2021 bobber twenty and I learned how to rife on a rebel 1100 and there is no comparison.
best part about rebel is that it has features, is cheaper and you can still mod it to look even better
but indian looks majestic right out the factory
It's funny how he keeps saying the Indian is more powerful. Forget the weight difference. If you put both of these bikes on the dyno the wheel horsepower will be identical, because chain drive loses way less power than a belt drive system. Then on top of that you calculate in the power to weight ratio The Honda is way ahead in both horsepower and torque. If you had this Honda rebel up against that Indian at a stoplight or even cruising at 30 mph rolling star The rebel will win every single time on the initial acceleration. Maybe the Indian will catch up after 100 mph but that doesn't matter because you don't buy a cruiser to do over 100 mph. If I wanted to go that fast I'd buy a supersport.
Nope the India Chief Darkhorse is the winner, i own a Rebell1100, but is becaus of price. I rode the sxout and it was ok, bu the indian Dark horse is just a work of art. Now i teated the Rebell and it gave me way more relax points and it was way cheaper.
Scout bobber 60 cause it's cheaper than both. I saved almost 400 on yearly insurance too
Indian ..... ✌️
Owned a Honda CBR954RR for 20 yrs now......at the age of 50, i'm gonna slow down and buy a Rebel 1100 for the longer, lazy rides. You just can't beat the reliability of a Honda.
Yes, you can. It's called an Indian, ha! 😉😅🤣
@@davdankvinci345 Hardly, and to add to that, the psychotic left will likely declare the name 'Indian' as offensive or Racist and require the company to change it's name to "Native American" in the future...lmao.
Honda is too expensive. That’s almost the same money as a Harley Nightster or some of the Triumph Bonneville twins.
Plus the biggest detractor with the Honda is it almost looks identical to the significantly cheaper Rebel 500, which is far better priced.
Should have been around $15,000, not in the $20,000 range
So I rode for years I haven't been on a bike in a little while. Raising kids and a little illness. I've been looking at a bunch of bikes I saw a r18 BMW that was gorgeous it was black. Indian is a nice bike, they have a lot of options that is cool but I can tell you this they are pricey and they remind me of victory. Now how long they'll be around his question and the Honda is tried and true they work like mules.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I do like Rebel looks more. So for me it was no brainer which to choose. (out of the Scout lineup I did even like Scout Rogue more than Bobber, but still Rebel won). Also did you yourself try them both out? It kind of sounded like you compared the paper specs, hearsay from forums and just your own eyes to look at them, but no real rider experience. Could have compared the fuel economy also yourself while at that -- hearsay isn't really good for that.
Hey bubba, how about talking in gallons and miles. America is where I imagine most of your viewers reside. And while we’re at it give me how many cubic inches. It wasn’t until the eighties that the Harley 74 translated to 1200 cc. Just saying - do me the favor. Thanks
Indian is way better looking but the rebel drives better and quicker.
If you prefer the scout over the rebel you ass and knees must be numb, brain as well. The rebel flat out beats the scout in every aspect but “looks”, which is extremely subjective. honestly the rebel is a total beast, the suspension is good, aesthetics are good, rider modes are good, and the torque/power from it are good. Don’t know why you’d sacrifice all that for looks and still lie to yourself saying the scout is the better bike.
rebel 1100 non-DCT was not available for the 5 months I looked. I ended up picking an indian scout and its so much more fun
The conclusion is a bit strange. Better on paper Rebel or more beautiful Scout. Rebel is objectively better tham Scout in more than 50% of cases, so it isn't only on paper.
Anyways, it's a personal taste and it's the best if they are tried before deciding. 👍
If Honda tweeks the styling of the Rebel it would be a perfect bike (for me).
If the scout had the same features as the rebel and a dct option hands down would of been one of the best bikes out. But if i could ill go with scout first then buy a rebel for the dct because of health complications.
Wow ! Finally ! with dct like me just to feel like how to cruise with motorcyle wit AT not manual lol ..the honda looks like harley sportster...
0:12 Disagree. The most classy and attractive bike you can find roaming the streets today is the Triumph Bobber.
The scout is uncomfortable af. Its like I'm bent over trying to touch my toes. Not comfortable at all if you are overweight at all.
You are right. Paper matters very little to how it looks and makes you feel.
I would have a rebel 1100 in my garage already if the speed wasn't governed at 99mph.
I would take either one, because I go for eye appeal and to me they both have it. With the edge going to the Indian Scout. Also, the Honda Rebel looks like a cheaper made bike. But for some reason, I'd rather be seen on an Indian or a HD..... than anything else. And I prefer a belt to a chain
it´s more like 4.5l/100km for me and I drove my rebel for more then 30 000km.
There is one area where you all fall down - running cost including servicing???
Wish Indian would make a 400cc or 500..
I bought an Indian Scout and I don't regret it at all :)
DCT rules. It's much more fun of driving when you don't have to think about shifting gears. So, my heart belongs to Rebel. Greatings from Phuket!
Also cruise control is amazing. I just used it on the highway few days back and i was fucking amazed
@@gsin311 I have TMax as well and it have cruise also, so no surprise, but very comfortable)))
2009 Kawa Vulcan 900 Custom wins!!
It’s all subjective in my opinion. I chose the 2022 Honda Rebel CMX1100 DCT for its quality, performance, value and reliability! Also I like the design of the Rebel with that “stuffed in” engine look. It has its own identity when it comes to the looks and design. Honda thought out of the box with this one. I definitely get more bang for my buck with this bike!! Beauty is truly in the eye of the beholder! 👍
the honda rebel looks comfortable to drive than the indian.
seat swap. problem solved
Then get the Scout Rouge!!! But please dont get that honda, get a Goldwing if you want a honda!
Idk, I think you're way off on the MPG for the Rebel. Life of Burch did a video on MPG with the 1100 and got 55mpg (4.27l/100km), Bennetts did a review and got about the same, Fuelly shows people reporting about 47mpg (5l/100km), and I see the forums reporting around that 46-47mpg mark in the forums.
Looking at Fuelly, people are reporting about the same mpg for the scout, meaning it should be lower distance.
I have honda rebel 1100 dct
So what makes for good brakes? I believe two discs are better than one, but it adds weight and clutter. How about a large diameter disc with 6 pistons? I like to hear my tire when I brake hard. On the dry pavement especially, I listen to the front tire tell me where my braking is. It warns me long before any trouble. I let it speak to me. I attribute that to the fact that I have two discs up front. I figure they average things out. 3 or 4 would be better, I assume, but that would be much clutter, weight, and also a bit weird.
In the UK getting an Indian is pretty difficult. But even for a sports bike guy, the Indian smashes it on looks and attention to detail and design. However, the dct Honda is super cheap to buy.... The Indian Scout is far more expensive in the UK. For me the DCT model is a clear winner.
Nice Indian commercial
Service! I can get a Honda repaired in just about any city in the U.S. My nearest Indian dealer is 3 hours away and I'm guessing long term maintenance on the Indian is bound to be more involved.
Bigger platform? The Rebel 1100 is a very cramped bike and suited to people of smaller sizeand or younger athletic folks, whereas the Indian Scout is a much more relaxed riding style. I wish Honda would use the 1100 motor in an updated version to their CTX700 series from 2014 to 2018, which was a much more comfortable bike to ride for a lot of us. However I am sold on the DCT transmissions, and the Honda CTX 700 dct I have is a nice change of pace from my Victory Cross Country.
yeah, i am confused. i ride a Rebel 500(2019)now, i like the style of the Indian. i sat on one during bike week in Daytona, it was really, really nice. i like the look of the Rebel 1100, just like my Rebel, but more power. i like the weight of the Rebel, water cooled, compared to oil? oh well, when i get ready to get a new bike i'll give them both a better look. oh yeah, price difference, not a lot, but with my finances, Honda wins.
Indian Scout Bobber. Why ? Because most of the 1%er MC allows American bikes 😂
Might want to also look into the bikes lean angle too? I’ve done a bit of research on my own and while these and the Harley nightster or fatbob are great competitors also… the nightster and the rebel are marketed as more of a “sport cruiser” with better lean angles but still retaining some of the cruiser style and ergonomics. Just felt that is worth mentioning as they have slightly different target audiences. While both being a cruiser one is more agile and “playful” the other is more style and grunt….
That scout is sexy though.
It's really low. I really love the look.
I was also looking at a Triumph Rocket R3... its almost double the price...but thats sexy to me also... the price is a factor here.
If the money wasn't a thing, as beautiful as the scout look I would go after the Rocket
Rebel 1100 should be compared to Indian Scout not the bobber. Best on the same category should be compared together.
The rebel 😎 is better
Rebel all day
2022 manual rebel owner here. i'm 6'0" and 270 lb and 60 yrs old. originally the rider triangle was tight, but new seat and forward controls fixed that. my biggest complaint is the small fuel tank. years ago, i had a suzuki 550e with a bigger capacity. biggest plus is the cruise control. i can relax my grip on the throttle and that really help due to arthritis in the right thumb. it is a very sporty ride.
Got the bobber titanium..drove bouth..Honda is all about tech and lightness..Indian scout bobber is just real bike..love it upgraded the rear shocks and seats perfect and looks beautiful...
Looks mean a lot!! Not to mention how many Indians on the road vs Honda! a great brand but Indian has th heritage thing!
I bought the Scout Bobber in 2021 and I love it. Living in the US mid-west this bike is perfect for daily riding or for longer weekend trips out-of-town.
Here the deal, if you dont want the Scout bobber and get the Scout Rouge, im out peace!!!
Looks. The scout is 10/10. The rebel is 5/10. But the triumph bobber 11/10