Is the DDOS Field Upgrade Any Good in MWII? (What Exactly Does it Counter?)
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- Опубликовано: 14 июл 2024
- The DDOS Field Upgrade can be a great choice in Modern Warfare II and today, I wanted to shared a detailed breakdown of exactly how this EMP device works and what exactly it interacts with in the game. What are your thoughts on the DDOS in MWII?
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0:00 Intro
0:18 The Basics (Behaviour, Timings, Etc)
2:37 DDOS vs Equipment
4:09 DDOS vs Field Upgrades
6:10 DDOS vs Streaks
7:14 DDOS vs Vehicles (Invasion/Ground War)
7:30 Summary & Wrap Up 
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Something you missed was that the DDOS range is infinite if you are facing sideways towards equipment and vehicles and stuff. This thing is very good at accumulating score for score streaks in Ground War and Invasion.
I’ve noticed this. You just rotate your character until you see the 4+ things in range thing and boom! You get 100 or so score
What can you word that differently, my brain cant comprehend
Everyone like that comment so he pins it
@@smeltgamer if equipment is out of range in front of you, turn left and the disable range will be infinite
@@DTG4844 turn left and what?
There's actually a bit of a way to determine how many players are in the DDoS's vicinity, because whenever you activate it and it affects a player in the activation range, you will get 20 points for that, so if you were to get 40 points without any devices deactivated, that would tell you two players are nearby. Iirc the "EMPd player" message will also pop up, but either way you can use the DDoS as a sort of proximity scan if you understand the score system for it and maybe pay attention to your operator's dialogue after activation.
Yea it’ll show up as bars if equipment is nearby or people’s I think
The range on DDOS extends 25m in front of you. The area of activation is rectangular and, if not patched, actually has infinite range of width. I have have actually sniped a Heavy Helo out of the sky in GroundWar. I think there is a ceiling to it's range since a Helo can fly out of it range. Credit to FavstaR.
I've mentioned it before but DDOS is extremely underrated, especially when you pair it with spotter and toggle kill streaks to score streaks
But the game is fucking trash, so no one cares.
ah, the hacker loadout. Im going to build that next time i play
@@Marsheh2 Hackerman
I run the trophy with the ddos. So I can have a trophy and stop the other team from having one.
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I always thought this field upgrade worked like an emp but sadly it doesn't. I think it would be so much better if it countered the amount of clay mores, bouncing Betty's, and cluster mines people use to camp with, not just by a few seconds, but indefinitely.
It does work against vehicles
In dmz and wz
If it did all that it definitely would be OP. This is what the Hacker perk is for, so YOU can take control of enemy equipment
@RocketMan not really, Treyarc games had these same mechanics where you hard counter equipments, while making you vulnerable to other things. Black ops 3 had hardwired where no traps could even touch you, making it perfect for stealth players.
@@rocketman8476 bro how would that be OP? Just removing one claymore that a player will be placing down the whole game, and ofc if DDOS worked like that than the recharge rate would be slower
Along with the decoy grenade, the DDOS was key to helping me level up my weapons.
The decoy comes in handy bro
Wait so ANY points you get help towards your held weapon, regardless on whether or not you used that weapon to get those points?
@@scott3285Yes! Throw your decoys towards the center of the map or wherever there’s frequent gunfights and you get points for every enemy that dies near your decoy.
I think adding two more seconds would definitely put it in the top tier. I didn’t realize it had such a strong affect, if they can fix that recon and bomb drone bug, then I’d run it in all of my classes, but currently I run the trophy system. I drop that thing in an area I know is having a lot of shootouts or before turning a corner or even for a quick reload and it’s saved me and my teammates so many times
I think it should have its active time at least doubled.
As others have mentioned, the DDOS range is a rectangle that sticks out 25 meters in front of you at the time of use, and extends infinitely sideways. Turning so that all the enemies are to your side can allow you to DDOS items from across the map.
could you DDOS a chopper gunner on Border Crossing with the right angle? It flies so low on that map.
I have some new strats for DMZ now. Thanx Ace
Shipment is easily the best map for this. So many people bring mines, claymores, trophies, and whatever else that taking them out in an area is nice for the team. It can also be used to see if an enemy is close to you that you can’t see.
Wow great vid! Thanks for the information 👍
I love how there was a guy looking out a hole on the edge of the map that you killed and then you walked to the same hole and looked out it. Human curiosity at its finest. 😂 2:48
I feel like this is mostly be useful to counter Trophy Systems and and some Kill Streaks. Everything else I feel like it’s mostly a cherry on top if anything
Wish the devices in range indicator would still show up when I have 2 field upgrades (seems like it does if I use it back to back.) 🧐
Thanks for this
Personally, I think it needs a buff. Deactivating equipment for 6 seconds MAY give you a sliiiight advantage in a cqc kind of situation, but if people are holed in, it doesn't do jack to their display anyway. I'd say shorten the range A BIT and make it destroy equipment.
I’ve been waiting for this video for a while now.. always wonder if it was worth using the DDOS and now ik 😭🤞🏾
Something thats worth noting is from testing ive seen, the equipment disruption area isnt a radius around you -- its a rectangle that extends 25m in front of you and infinitely to the side of that line
I use it quite a bit. But in all game modes it's the same thing with recon drones and bomb drones. I find it odd it will destroy smoke screen drones but it never has destroyed bomb drones even if it says it does.
Enjoying the videos, thank you!
Ive used ddos a lot on shoot house to push the office area if there was a camper since it deactivates equipment. Very good for a push.
I usually always have ddos equipped. I use the devices in range metter as a spotting method and slow down as there's a possibility of campers in the area. I do believe that it only stops drone movement for the duration.
I like that it tells you when people are around you and that is probably the best use outside of disabling equipment.
It doesn’t do that
Unless you randomly use it and happen to hit someone
i use this all the time not for stopping equipment but just to gain score for streaks its so good for that
Awesome video, appreciate the work you put in. Could you do a video on ammo tuning? Sym gg doesn't really help. I know the damage range tuning is pretty modest (about a meter and change at best) but when choosing between recoil steadiness and bullet velocity, how much is it affecting? I often use High Velocity or Armor Piercing ammo as a "free" recoil adjusting attachment (i.e. it doesn't hurt my ADS), but I'm curious how much actual velocity I'm losing when adjusting the tuning toward recoil.
would be great if you could extend the time of the DDOS by getting kills like you can with dead silence
I love this thing in ground war
Love It!
Thanks for the info! I've never used it cause I had no concept of how it could help me. So I appreciate you breaking it all down for us!
If dead silence was a perk maybe we cd try some of these other field upgrades
upvoting all ur vids cause codfather said its a good idea
Yeah I usually run in 6v6 objective modes to disable trophy mostly comes in handy when you know someone camping the office on shoot house
I used it a lot when i was leveling up lots of guns when the game launched but havent really used it since
Thx. Thought I could use it as a radar type deal for when other player were near. Guess not.
It's not bad but the effect time must be boosted a little bit more. Hope it will get a buff in the near future
If DDOS were to be buffed I think having it add more time to enemies field upgrade charge rate, even if slightly would be an interesting change. Possibly could entirely block using a field upgrade in the radius until running out or the DDOS player being killed.
Making it effectively a Silence is an interesting choice. I don't see how you could justify blocking battle rage or something though
a HIGHLY underrated tool in the game!
It's also helpful for rpg mastery camo challenges
if ddos range was shorter but a persistent aoe, i could see it being used as a very aggressive option
Might use while playin shipment
2:27 actually you can use it to detect enemy players; but only by activating it. if you think or if you wanna be sure if there is or isnt someone within 12 meters from you, activate it, and if there is it will give you 20 score and tell you "Player EMPed"
I like it and use it. I think fix the range so it doesn't have an unlimited horizontal range. Make it kill drones, as they would drop out of the sky. Make it detect enemy players or maybe just enemy players that have an electronic optic, in addition to equipment.
Activating this and full rush the A building on Taraq where people loves to camp has to be extremely useful. Because they usually rely on their claymores/mines doing the work if someone tries to catch them but a ddos rush would be super effective.
Same with the 1 building in Al Bagra
The problem is you're running in you've let them know you're coming on their hud so even if they can't hear your steps they get an indication if they positioned well. The claymore/mine did their job as intended.
They don't use those to kill but to force you to reveal you're near.
The DDOS against the bomb drone reacts the same in public matches, so your testing stacks up at the moment. You do get the heads up that it was effective but that isn't the case.
I think it's important to mention that the DDOS only affects what's in front of you not behind you. And the distance it can reach to your left to right is infinite. So it's a giant rectangle of coverage
DDOS and trophy system are great compliments.
I mostly use it to clear snipers out of buildings. Deactivate their mines protecting the stairs and mow them down with a hip fire smg class in extreme close quarters.
Best XP field upgrade there is. I maxxed all my XP using this, UAV, counter UAV, and mortar strikes. Was like a constant XP stream.
Honestly the best part about this is the score boost, easily giving between 25 to 100+ score. Very easy to use and get a chopper gunner or ac-130.
Not all optics use electricity. For example the acog uses natural light to illuminate the reticle.
That could explain why some optics are unaffected. If so that's a fantastic detail!
If you do ddo’s a player you will get a prompt from doing so. If your in warzone you could in theory use it to scan a building rq to see if anyone is there.
It’s useful for DMZ shutting down enemy claymores when fighting
The bomb drone definitely does not get countered by DDOS in regular multiplayer, I’ve learned that one the hard way before.
Assuming this would be the same for the recon drone too.
Running DDOS w/ is a pretty good combo from my experience. Also, I think the exp obtained from disabling equipment w/ DDOS counts as weapon exp.
What is the other part of your combo? DDOS and what?
@@stufoot99 I run dead silence. Both have fast charge rates.
I miss emp grenades
Did you try dead silence? If it worked you could use it as an early warning to a dead silence push. (You may not have considered it because of the implementation in other games but in this game it is a machine that sends out some sort of audible ping which, I assume, it then uses to deaden your footsteps).
It's pretty good at getting scorestreaks on shipment
I love it
Interesting video! 😅💋
For Warzone, the only viable use I see for DDOS is disabling the armed vehicles, other than that it's pretty useless.
It's not that they're utterly bad, it's just that there's far better field upgrades.
For domination it's great to disable the trophy and grenade spam them
Take a shot every time Ace says “Ddos”
☠️
wasn't there a bug or something that made the side-to-side range of the ddos unlimited?
LOL Midwarfare 1.2
It still exists as far as I'm aware.
DDOS, in fact, won't work against the bomb drone during public matches as well..I've experienced this half a dozen times, and is very annoying cuz there's a short time window to effectively counter the drone B4 it explodes, since there the "successful" popup, @ first I thought my timing was kinda off.. and I think is fair to assume it won't work against the recon drone neither...
Another thing no one has pointed out, if you're using the pro version, it won't show _devices in range_ until you use DDOS once... Now, I don't remember if when you pick the other field upgrade after having used DDOS it will stop showing again until you blindly use it once more, if memory serves me right it stops...
Also, as many have pointed out, the sideways range @ activation is infinite (area is rectangular, 25m in front of you), so B4 activating maybe a good idea to pivot in place to try and get as many devices as possible...
That being said, I don't think is underrated at all, usefulness is very circumstantial, works best on smaller maps obviously, so Shipment lol... Very best counter to triggered explosives still is _bomb squad_ since DDOS duration is very short and the range is unintuitive at best... Plus you don't know what devices are in range, could be anything unless you've _spotter_ on... On Shipment use of _trophy_ is rampant so DDOS is very useful w/ some bonus, but then again even there, depending on what enemies are using the usefulness goes out the window...
Cheers
They need to add EMP grenades. All the campy equipment need to be easier to destroy
one thing you didn't cover in the video
the DDOS can make enemy Javelin lose the ability to lock on
Everything you loved in life.
i want this buffed so bad. i feel like smaller explosives should blow up after the effect ends
I use it quite a bit just because ghost isn't available immediately. It responds so quick too.
This is the best thing added to objective modes. For any of y’all who were in those sweaty lobbies in MW 2019, I’m sure you remember the obscene trophy system spam on modes like hardpoint where pushing objective became nigh impossible. DDOS has finally stopped this problem for me.
And if you aren’t playing an obj mode this ruins a campers nest by taking out their trophy systems, claymores, and proximity mines, making it much easier to flush the camper out.
It doesn't though because that stuff is still there and trophys are stupid to run as a camper.
The point of their equipment is for you specifically to reveal yourself. Meaning that little bit of fuzz on the HUD gives you away. Your footsteps give you away. This doesn't help at all against a half-decent camper.
Damn, I was really rooting for green, maybe subconsciously due to the fact that the first sentence had green letters.
Good info.. love the vid. I think I’ve asked this before but what is a “like rating” lol there aren’t ratings on RUclips just like or dislike essentially. Could say “ if you like the video a like would be appreciated” sounds a little smoother to me as well
Pretty sure they have this field upgrade in TitanFall 2 as well
Not gonna lie, i kinda wished u had tested it on some other killstreaks like the cruise missile or something. The fact the trophy system works on the missile is funny enough. Doubt u could get high enough to hit a aircraft but would be interesting to know.
It makes a nice combo if you wany to hack proximity equipment. Also if you want to drill charge into a trophy system'ed up room
I use the DDOS to push objectives and the Trophy to defend objectives.
Was there an interaction between a ddos and a thermal scope? I don't think ace mentioned but I may have missed it
It’s true the ddos’s interaction with drones is bugged, it gives you xp for disabling recon and bomb drones in game but it doesn’t actually do anything to the drones
I used the hell out of the ddos while grinding out jokr kills in shipment, let a rocket fly, hide in one of the side crates for a couple seconds then activate. Easy kills cause the trophies couldn’t do anything about it!
I use this like a tweezer to remove the ticks that are claymore campers.
Can’t go wrong with DDOS
ACTIVATING QUEEF SAUCE
In shipment I activated ddos hoping to disable the enemy trophies (3) of them, got the score for 3 of them being disabled and threw a Semtex that got intercepted by a trophy. So I'm wondering if maybe custom games and public matches don't reflect properly.
Same happened to me, also on shipment, popped a ddos and disabled a trophy and tossed a lethal only to have it destroyed. Gives me conniptions. This game is spaghetti code with a gui
It can use a buff long effects
DDOS also affects vehicles in Warzone and DMZ
I miss the Black hat from BOII
So ddos is the engineer perk and scrambler perk mixing with disabling electronics and destroy certain equipment
I only play snd and couple of days ago me and my friends got beat by an average team. Out ping wasn't great, the next match after we had the same lobbie but the game clearly gave us a connection advantage and we had much lower ping. We then won 6 _ 0
Honestly I have never felt I needed it in mwii... I think it would've been amazing in mw19 though.
I'm not going to bother to equip the DDOS and check for myself, but if MW2's sights and EMP are true to life, then it is only holographic sights that will be affected, etched and wire reticles will not. Holographic sights are the "red dot" type sights that look holographic, or "translucent" might be a better way of putting it. The Solozero Mini is one such example.
Technically you can illuminate etched reticles with red light etc, in which case the illumination feature would stop working after an EMP, but the blacked out, dark version of the reticle would still be available to the operator.
Etched reticles tend to be somewhat more expensive, so if you anyone reading this decides they want to become a real gun enthusiast instead of just a digital one, and you want to go the etched reticle route but don't have the cash flow yet, start with Vortex scopes.
Ddos in war zone is a menace when ambushing teams
I think I tried it on a recon drone in GW. It might have just disabled its movement.
As a scorestreak killer, DDoS is always in my kit. Wheelsons are terrifying killstreaks even when you have an incendiary LMG or BR. and the ability to cover non arial streaks is worth the few extra seconds on my Tac cams. Hopefully they do make it so the recon and bomb drone actually get disabled come season 2.
Doesn't do anything to wheelsons either
In your professional opinion what do you think about the underbarrel weapons in modern warfare 2
I don’t use it but every time I’m hit with it I don’t feel like it lasts long enough. It usually doesn’t effect anything
i've used ddos in public games vs the bomb drone dozens of time and they still can fly towards me and blow up
flew over Zaya Observatory in DMZ the other week, the Jugg was spawned in and it DDOS'd my helicopter, had to bail before it crashed, we weren't super low, so the AI DDOS must have a much bigger radius
Its perfect to counter pesky Heavy Choppers rushing points or a tank holding a point
The battery indicator doesn't work a lot of the time. Many times it will indicate 4+ pieces of equipment around but give 0 score.
It would be if it *destroyed* more equipment rather than simply briefly suppressing it