Volvo Timing Belt & Water Pump Replacement (Serpentine Belt, Idler, Tensioner - 850 Turbo)
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- Опубликовано: 16 окт 2024
- ►The timing system is one of the most important parts of your car. This system is responsible for keeping your engine in time and on the road. We're here with Ben McNally to show you how to replace the timing belt, water pump, serpentine belt and tensioner on a 1996 Volvo 850 Turbo.
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Hi FCP, here in sweden it costs around $1000 for the job alone if you leave it to a mechanic (parts not included).
Thanks to this video alone i managed to replace both belts, waterpump, tensioner, pulleys etc and it worked out great. The only carjob i had done before on a car was replacing breakpads and breakrotor so im not in any way an experienced hobby-mechanic.
Love your videos and many thanks!
Thanks FCP for a great how to. I just tackled this job over the weekend on my sons 95 850 non turbo with your kit. A couple suggestions to anyone who is preparing to do this job. Make sure you have a correct serpentine belt tool. I ended up fabricating my own, but it would have been faster if I had the proper tool to begin with. I cannot stress enough to follow the directions when it comes to setting the timing. Check it as many times as you need to make sure that it is correct. Buy a new timing belt tensioner spacer. It is a cheap piece of plastic that I think should be included in the kit. I reused the old one and it broke in half during installation. Good luck fining one of those locally if you do. Lastly, take your time. You will find some of this job frustrating. Good luck.
Just tackled the job! Man, took me 2 nights and I kinda struggled with that T45 bolt on the tensioner idler but I did it! Had to come by to thank you Ben and all the FCP team! Thank you!
You're very welcome, Dan! Happy we could help, and glad you were able to get it done!
Im stuck on that too it wont budge and striped at this point , such a shitty bolt design for that
@@hottew_twat3963 , indeed, nightmare of a bolt! I managed to do it using a glue paste on the tip of the torx bit. Gave me more traction and It avoid slipping and stripping the bolt.
@@hottew_twat3963 True, terrible design. That metal is very soft and can easily be ruined. I had to grind it off and buy a new part. Dont know why they did not use a hardened fastner for that application.
Wow! Who would give this a thumbs down? It's time to tackle this on my own, for first time.
Thank you much!
Of the 3 videos I have watched on this particular process this was the most thorough. Thank you!
I know Im randomly asking but does someone know a tool to get back into an instagram account..?
I stupidly forgot my account password. I appreciate any assistance you can give me.
@Shane Kye Instablaster ;)
@Colt Corbin thanks so much for your reply. I got to the site thru google and I'm trying it out now.
Looks like it's gonna take quite some time so I will reply here later when my account password hopefully is recovered.
@Colt Corbin It worked and I now got access to my account again. I'm so happy!
Thanks so much, you really help me out :D
@Shane Kye you are welcome =)
Ben, thanks a million! Your instruction helped me so much with changing the belts and waterpump. The details like how to wriggle and put the new belt on the crank etc. etc are much appreciated. Thanks again, greetings from Friesland, The Netherlands. Jaap
One of the best how-to vids on YT. 5 ***** I'll be doing this very job on my '97 850 the minute the first warm day shows up!
Great video! I’ve never worked on a block before this, but I went completely off your video and it all went smoothly, so big thanks!
Excellent video. Very straight forward. Not too much babbling like other ones. Good job!
How about a video covering the replacement of cam seals and any other suggested ancillary repairs that we should consider when we're doing the timing belt service? If not coming up soon, please reply with your suggestions.
Very good video. When we did this on my sons car the real 'pain' was getting to old water pump gasket material off of the block. Seems like someone had used a gasket compound on at leat part of it. Took like an hour or more in cramped confined space.
The change interval is 105k, it's the same procedure as either this video or our s60 timing belt change video, it depends on the tensioner as 1999 was a split year. Hope that helps.
Glad you found it useful. Ben has done this replacement several times, nail polish might help some people, but it isn't necessary. I believe to tool we used came from IPD.
So much straight forward than the Honda J series V6 motor. great video mate.
Excellent video. I was just offered the job to do this. Not terribly difficult, but I still don't think I want to do it!
Excellent as usual.
Very clear and concise.
Thank you.
Thanks - I completed the job yesterday and no surprises as your video prepared me well. Very happy with the parts I bought from FCP - everything fit as it should.
You made that look easy. I would only attempt this myself on an old $500 car just incase I mess it up on my good one.
30 seconds was enough for me to give your video a like.
This must be the best looked after 850 in the world, considering all the videos you guys have made feauturing it.
It may be prudent to refill the coolant and check for leaks before installing the new belts and tensioners.
Perhaps, but remember that cooling systems are pressurized when hot. A cold leak test without the engine running might reveal a major leak, but imho would probably not reveal a minor one.
@@reallyhappenings5597 that's why you buy a pressure tester. You won't regret it when you have your redo the entire job because of a leaking water pump.
Does anybody want to make some money for changing a water pump on a1997 Volvo 850 if so how much would you charge if so I can get u a number to call me 799 5496ask for Frank
Great video, thanks! I used it to change the timing belt and water pump on my 1996 Volvo. Before you start the job, make sure you have a T-45 Torx bit. For the serpentine belt tool, I used a square block of aluminum, about 19mm x 19mm, and held it with an adjustable wrench. Remonving the timing belt was the trickiest part: pulling didn't work, so try wiggling and pushing it through the narrow opening. Had to take gloves off to really feel where the belt was.
I wound up cutting my old timing belt to get it out. the video makes it look so easy. I was terrified I wouldn't be able to get the new belt in after I cut the old one off - somehow putting the new one on much more do-able than getting the old one off.
To everyone who is wondering where to find that shallow T45 socket for the tensioner. Autozone sells a set for $15 that has that shallow torx socket in it. Hope this helps
Volvo changed to a newer style of tensioner in 1999. There is a bolt right in the center that you loosen and it comes right off. You use an alen key to adjust the tension.
Matt You vid saved me tons of money and gave me the confidence to do a radiator on a turbo v*70
I take it the thumbs downs are from garages who feel threatened by such informative DIY tutorials. Shame on you!
Most likely mad ass dealers
My thumbs down is the difficult point between 10:29-10:30 which was edited out and made the belt magically slide on without struggle.
@@Daninater Yeah. That's the worst part. I always end up counting teeth and comparing to the old belt, convinced the new one is too small. Ben didn't even mention it. I blinked, and the belt was on.
Must be that IPD cam lock tool makes it easy.
Dude that was awesome. You are a true master mechanic. How long does that job take. I'm about to have the job done and my mechanic says it should take only two hours.
Hello Keith, it will take 2.50 to 3 hours to complete the timing service.
FCP Euro for a 1999 volvo s70 os the some
Out of all the water pumps you guys have installed this way (no sealant on mating surfaces) did any of them ever leak? Reason asking is because in the near future I will be doing the same thing on my 98 S70 NA and I just want to get a feel that things won't go wrong when I fire it up. Even though sealant is not recommended, I tend to smear just a tiny bit on them when I replace water pumps on other cars but on the Volvo I want to change that mentality. Great video by the way! Really appreciate FCP taking their time to educate Volvo owners :)
I really like your videos, they give us the confidence to do it ourselves. I agree that providing an exact tool list would be helpful, especially before the parts arrive and the car is disassembled! Please consider adding an elapse timer from the start of the job to completion. While you edit the video to less than 15 minutes, it would be nice to know how long it really takes. At the same time time, would like to know how much time the service manual allots for each task.
You'll have to remove the tensioner to get the pump out, you might want to consider replacing the tensioner while you have the components out, but if you can't you can compress it in a vice and use a hard metal pin (a nail or otherwise) to keep the tensioner open until you replace it. Hope that helps.
Hello friend, thank you very much for sharing these videos, they are very helpful, I am from Argentina and I bought a v70 awd 98 a few days ago, I am very happy to find your content, thank you!
Hi Pachuca! We're happy to help! Congrats on the new purchase, 98 V70 is a great car!
Thanks for posting the video, it helps to see it all done in sequence. These videos are much appreciated support for your customers!
I believe the full capacity is around 7l, but you'll probably only drain between 4-5. When we did the 850 coolant video I believe we used about 4l of 50/50 mix to top it back off. Hope that helps.
все очень хорошо сделали, мне понравилось) раньше я думал что это сложная процедура, теперь нет) буду сам менять РЕМЕНЬ ГРМ еще хотел спросить у вас можно заказать стопор распредвалов IPD?
Thank you man you make it look easy to do
We actually didn't take the idler pulley off, we used a strange combination of extensions and swivels to get the right length, changing it up for almost every bolt. A decent extension set can go a long way to helping with this job. Hope that helps.
Arent you supposed to change the pulleys when you change the belt? Or every other service like the water pump?
Can you add into the video what he did to realign the cam and crank pulleys after he found out they moved slightly? The video was excellent and gave me the confidence to do my own, BUT I would like to see that part as well.
Thats realy cool im going to do my own as well because my meachanic said it will take at least a couple hours
3-4hours is normal incl. water pump and coolant bleeding.
It could make some bad noises, maybe it leaks, or you might have just hit the service mileage and you know it's smart to change it. You could also be stranded, that could be a sign something is wrong. Hope that helps.
Great video! My xc90 is leaking from under too. I feel better about doing this my self now. Thanks! !
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Man is this a t6 engine . ? Howerver it looks pretty good your camera perfect timming marks looking good. everything súper nice job thnks
This is a T5 engine, from the 850 T5. Glad you like the camera work! Happy to help!
Man this isn't even close to a T6 engine, man.
I just discovered a new ticking noise with my Volvo 850. I just got back from a 2 week vacation, and started the car up for the first time, and surprise! The ticking noise varies with engine speed, but it kind of went away after about 10 minutes of driving. I was thinking I might be in need of a new water pump. I had the PCV system replaced about a year ago, if that's what you were thinking, because that's also a common cause of the ticking.
Sounds like a collapsed lifter. I would make sure the engine oil is topped off and you raise the RPM's to about 3k RPM for a minute or two to see if it pumps back up.
FCP Euro It hasn't occurred again since that first start last week. The internals must have been really dry, and just need some lubrication. Thanks.
Hi there quick question, my water pump timing belt and all Pullies/tensioner were replaced 27k miles ago just had 14 degree weather my coolant froze then my water pump busted, would I be okay reusing my timing belt and tensioner to swap my water pump?
Excellent vid first volvo belt for me real time saver thanks
these videos are awesome.. i'm only using mechanics that let me order parts from you guys.. i'm going to email him the link to the video for this one.
You're going to want to use a camshaft holder on the back of the head to keep the camshafts in time while you removed the front sprockets to change out the seals. Check the description for a link to the holder, hope that helps.
Sweet, blooper reel footage
Hi, Did u not forget the plastic cover over tensioner when u install it back?
very informative video.I now feel confident to attemp to do this job myself.
Is there a video for the replacement of the PNP Switch?
Not yet, but keep an eye out for it, we're shooting new videos every week.
ok cant wait.....good job guys!
Thank you for this awesome video! You make this job look so easy!!!
Another great write up FCP/Ben. I will tackle this job on my 98 C70 soon, need to buy a cam lock tool thanks for the tip! Can i please request a 850/x70 series manual clutch change :) need to do that soon as well.
A question. What is the make of the Torx 45 socket that you are using? All my craftsmen T45 sockets are too long and won't make the clearance with the handle attached. Do you sell those short T-45 sockets?
Good job you made it look easy 👍😃
In the video you are using a T-45 torx bit to remove a tensioner pulley. The working space to get this loosened is extremely tight. No way I could use my T-45 socket/bit to get in there. My plan is to cut off both ends of a T45 torx bit and set it in a 3/8 drive 5/16 socket and use a 3/8 strong arm to make the overall tool profile as short as possible. Is there some other option to get this loosened?
(Mentioning this potential problem in the video would seem to be worthwhile.)
Thanks.
Yup that would have been good. I bought a stubby T45, which is exactly 1/2 the length of a "standard" one. Both the socket portion and torx portion are shorter. I heard on another video a stubby is needed.
It would have been helpful to have seen the piston for the tensioner compressed. This may important for those who have never done this job before.
Hey Ben, how do you replace the serpentine belt tensioner and pulley,it's all one piece on my 1994 Volvo 850 Thank you
And this is why I stopped working on my own car. Good video.
What year is the car you're doing the service to? With the hydraulic tensioner, make sure you keep the retaining pin in until you're absolutely sure you have proper engine timing. If you have a manual tensioner, just loosen it and you'll be fine.
Hi Bro ...that removed waterpump pulley teeth design and new one is entirely different....it means we can use both type ?????
Hello!
What do you think of the INA belt sets (idler, tensioner, waterpump, timing belt)? Are those quality parts?
Great video. I have 04 xc70 and I can't get the tensioner removed. What tool are you using? Thanks.
Great video! Thanks a lot for the time invested :) Only one question: I´ve looking for the front cam locking tool (the blue one with four spikes) and I couldn´t find it. I could use some help.... Thanks in advance.
You're welcome! Here's a link to the cam tool - www.fcpeuro.com/products/volvo-camshaft-locking-tool-front-cta-2883
Thanks!
hi Guy ; you are the best .thank you
You are the best, Carlos!
very good tuto,
please can you show to us how to change fuel filter of volvo v50
thank you
If you email jasonv@fcpeuro.com he can help you with some directions.
When you turning the motor 1:49 on car with automatic transmission, do you keep transmission on neutral?
Does anyone know if there are any warning signs you need to do timing? I really cant afford to get it done (and definitely lack the knowledge) but ive noticed a pretty bad squeak from the passenger side of engine. Any possibility this could be the issue?
Thanks! Thats the way to do it and the way to show how to do it!
Great video! Very helpful!
how did you get the idler pully off, what ratchet did you use to get the clearance with the T45 socket? Sears Offset handle? or SnapOn?
ps. your videos are awesome, if I could make a wish, it would be to make some more videos based on the P2-cars. 00-07 V70 for example. Any how, these videos are much appreciated.
Hi
Need to change the TRIGER TENSION PISTON? does not come out of the set ?
Thanks for the informative vlog.
Our pleasure!
I am replacing the water pump in a 97 850. Is it a must to align the timing marks before installing the new water pump? can I install the water pump, put everything back on, align the marks for the cam, and then turn the motor over twice with the 30mm tool?
We recommend to follow the procedure demonstrated in this video to avoid any error.
Wonderful video ! thanks
can I rotate the engine and adjust the timing after I replace the belt?
Hi guys yesterday my 95 850 turbo went for timing belt, Water pump, tensioner, pulleys and serpentine belt replacement. The job was made by a very skilled volvo machanic. The thing is it now has an annoying whining most noticeable at 1500rpm coming from the belts area. Saw some other videos with the same whine and it seems the timing belt is too tight. The serpentine belt also was changed to the new route styling. Is it possible that the whine is there until the timing belt settles in? Its driving me nuts because the engine was silky silent before this job.
First thing to come to mind was just that. It's probably too tight however this is an automatic hydraulic tensioner which tensions itself. I would make sure the belt isn't making contact with any components and maybe use a stethoscope to try and narrow down where the whine is coming from. I hope that helps.
Should I apply gasket sealer on the a new pump?
Great job!! I’ve got a Haynes book that explains that the pump bolts should be tight at 20nm, are you positive that is 15nm?
Thank you!
Hi Dan, the exact spec is actually 18 ft-lb, somewhere around there should suffice.
Do I have to undergo all that process just to replace the water pump? no short cuts?
Probably. The water pump is a lot easier to get in/out from the bottom - possibly the only way to do it. The T Belt may get in the way.
Would the procedure be same with vvt engines..?? Plus Do you need the camlock tool or is it safe to do without it..?.? I have an 05 volvo xc90. Thanks
Check out our video here where we do it on a VVT without the tool: Volvo Timing Belt Replacement (S60 Timing, Serpentine, Tensioner & Rollers) FCP Euro
So i just bought the t belt kit with the automatic tensioner.
Problem is my car has a manual tensioner.
Can i use the belt/idler/waterpump from the kit i bought and just get a new manual tensioner?
Yes, it should just be the tensioner that needs to be exchanged.
Technically as long as your timing belt is not broken you can make three of your own marks (with a paint marker) and still be ok. right?
where can I find a volvo 2002 s80 t6. how to replace the head gasket. I need to know do U spray both sides or just one side or what side do I spray. (copper glue )
Is there one of those Cam Lock Tools for the 2.9 Turbo? And if so where how do I acquire one?
I am a female with a basic tool kit and an older Volvo that needs several expensive repairs. Your video makes this look fairly straight forward. I've ordered my parts from FCP and I'm gathering my tools. I plan to rent some of the more expensive items, like a timing gear clamp, and serpentine belt tool. I"m going to have my laptop next to me as I follow along with your video. I have a 99 Volvo V70 base model. I'm wondering about the breaker bar, and the extension used to turn the motor from underneath. This is my list of tools I think that I will need. Someone please let me know if I'm missing anything: Serpentine belt tool, timing gear clamp (is this one size fits all?), 30mm socket & extension, 12mm socket,T-25 torx bit, T-45 torx bit, 10mm wrench, a jack or ramps, snips to cut the belt (optional), red or white marker for notches, catch tub for coolant, coolant, gloves, breaker bar, and a mag light. Also, I didn't understand how you are getting bolts to torc to a specific lb of pressure. Is this another tool I will need to buy or rent?
Should be good to go other than a 13mm deep socket for the drain cock on the radiator. Good luck! Let us know if you have any questions along the way, you can always call us at 1-877-634-0063
He used a 3/8" drive torque wrench on the water pump bolts.
Ramps will not work for this job because you have to remove the right front wheel. You will need a hydraulic floor jack, two jack stands and chocks for the rear tires. You will also need a 19 mm socket for the wheel lugs.
Good luck!
guitartricky
Thank you for all the great help and advice. I went to the auto parts store twice to take advantage of the "tool loaner" program. Both times I was advised to get a mechanic, and given phone numbers to call. Is there a conspiracy to keep women from working on their cars, or is this really more difficult than it seems? Either way, I had all the parts, and the recommended mechanic offered to do the job for $220. The parts store sales clerk said I would invest at least $100 in tools, so I gave in to the heavy pressure from those with more expertise than I. Maybe they will let me do the rear brakes....lol
I'm disappointed with the work that was done. The bolts on the cover were stripped, If they couldn't torque these bolts properly, how likely is it that they torqued the water pump and timing belt properly? Wish I had done this work myself.
Gypsy2Go
Sorry to hear that. There's no excuse for sloppy work. The good news is that if they didn't do the timing belt right, you'd have a CEL. The water pump would have started leaking immediately also if the bolts weren't torqued properly. You can get replacement screws for your spark plug cover if you need them.
What is the recommended mileage interval for replacing the timing belt? Belts deteriorate over time, so is there a recommended time interval for belt replacement even if the mileage interval has not been reached on a car that is driven very little? What brand of replacement belt do you use?
+James Collinson A good replacement interval is 60,000 miles or 5 years, whichever comes first. We carry both the genuine and Contitech belts. Both are of OEM quality.
I believe Volvo's guidance was 7 years, 70k miles. You need to know that often a pulley or idler is what takes out the timing belt on these cars. Not just belt degradation - bearing degradation also.
You might want to try the assembly in a different order, try doing the tensioner first instead of last.
Confused.... how is rotaing the crank to take up the slack ok, when you've got to have everything on it's marks, to stay in time?
Yeah it isn't clear where that "slack" comes from. He didn't explain it. My guess is that the slack represents less than a rotation of ONE tooth of the crank timing gear.
Please excuse my ignorance but is the Serpentine belt & Timing belt the same belt or are there 2 belts.
Thank you
Anna
Don't excuse yourself, it's a totally reasonable question, they are two different belts, generally a serpentine belt will run accessories, e.g. power steering pump, a/c condenser, alternator, whereas the timing belt will coordinate the components within the engine, the valves and pistons for example, hope that answers your question.
Thank you for the well mannered & informative response.
FCP Euro How much would it cost me at your shop?
Fantastic thank you.
it's two different belts
Hi, may i ask how many belt teeth for volvo 850?
For a 2000 S 70 GLT SE , I'm wondering if there have been any changes in replacing the timing belt ?
I see that the valve cover is different in the GLT SE but simple enough to remove.
Yup - the tensioner is a different design. You need a P2 video - or you did 5 years ago.
You have forgotten to film a main part of the service, to check or properly the car works after replacement :-).
Hi, just wondering where I can find the cam lock tool that you used here? Tried clicking on your link in description, but looked like a totally different tool... thanks in advance.
I believe it was this one here from IPD: www.ipdusa.com/products/5127/109573-camshaft-locking-tool
Awesome! Thanks a million. About to do my first timing job.. thanks for such great videos!! Just did radiator from your vid.
Hi, my s70 98 had done hydraulic tensioner and new timing belt at the local shop few days ago. All pulleys were replaced. They used Gates timing belt T252 . I have noticed that the belt seats now right on the edges of the cam sprockets. Also the belt on the tensioner pulley sticks out slightly past the outer edge. Maybe a millimeter. The belt itself has some fuzzy debris on the outer and inner edge, not much but considering just few days of riding I thought it's weird. The teeth on the belt look fine, no debris. My old timing belt was spotless. Guys at the shop told me that Gates belts are like that. Is that true? As far as tensioner's pulley having the belt sticking out: Is it possible that they lost the washer, which comes with the pulley on its mounting surface? Is it one of these washers you can remove or it's a permanent one. I am talking about part INA 5310090100 / ZT00901. Car seems to be running fine. The alignment marks on cam sprockets and oil pump are fine too, I checked all of it. What do you think guys? Thanks
here are some picks: www.matthewsvolvosite.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=90750&p=516295#p516295
Do I need tools to do this or can I use telekinesis?
where would I get the serphentine belt tool?
The bearings should be smooth and tight. If it has any slop or spins too freely, it is time to change that pump before any damage is caused.
There is an obstruction at about the 6:300 clock postion behind the crank pulley. How did you get the belt past it?
Yes there is an obstruction there. Also a little less of one at 9:00. Note how he slipped it in on an angle, from 9:00 CCW through 6:00, to get past the obstructions.
Besides draining the coolant and screwing the waterpump back in at 15lbs of torgue and the timing belt anything else i should be careful with?
After you finish. Be careful driving 🚗
Is this the same procedure to follow for a 1998 S70 Base? Thx
Alejandro Gonzalez Yes this video should apply to your S70.
+Alejandro Gonzalez ONLY if you have a model that uses a hydraulic tensioner. (I have a 98 S70 that uses a mechanical tensioner...) Make sure to check your VIN and to open up the timing belt cover so you can check which you have. There's no 98 S70 video of a timing/water pump install with the mechanical tensioner...