50 More Problems With The Mormon Church
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- Опубликовано: 7 апр 2019
- A follow up to "50 Problems With The Mormon Church." The first video focused primarily on truth claims and the veracity of the Mormon church. This time, the focus is on Mormon morality. Sometimes people claim that the church is a great place to raise a family, regardless of its truth. It is my belief that the issues covered here offer a compelling counterpoint to that belief.
Special thanks to John Dehlin and Jonathan Streeter for their feedback on this video.
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Watching this on a Sunday while drinking my coffee and not attending church it's really freeing.
Good for you...
But isn't that evidence of a general feeling of rebellion in your heart toward God. He lives and we will all be accountable to all his words.
I hate to break it to you, but there are many denominations. While you're drinking your coffee, you might want to go on line and learn about others. They do a lot of good as a whole and for individuals.
@@scottrskitnope!
"...but interracial dating and marriage had continued to be discouraged until 2014"
What the flying fuck?
I live in Utah, I was raised here. Interracial couples get looked at like crazy living here. I can only imagine how it was in the church
Everyone needs to see this and share this.
They should show it in sacrament meeting.
@@rustynelson2357 Your missionaries should show this video. But it is not necessary because the truth about you is going strong. And BTW my ancestors were not Lamanites?
I love you Jesus!
Really though, your smile makes me happy.
Have a good day jesus.
Jesus are you an ex mormon too?
"I do like Jesus, I do like Jesus, Sam I Am!
My wife, myself & our children all left some 15 years ago.
We were told how our lives & our children would suffer from this decision.
Our marriage blossomed, we fell for the first time in true love, not to be shamed or shunned, just to find the true indicated love we actually had.
We can be ourselves & that is freedom in my view.
Why would the Mormon church shame or shun you?
@@patriciamalone3553 It's all about control, for the church to function it needs tithe payers & uses guilt tactics if you don't behave. If you go totally off the rails they shun you so you wont spread your ability to think for yourself to other members.
My wife won’t let me
Congratulations on forging your own path
Praise God.
I was obsessed with ancient Egypt growing up, and read everything I could get my hands on about it. Raised in the church. One day in Sunday school the topic was the Book of Abraham and the Joseph Smith translation of some papyrus. I mentioned that it looked like a picture in one of the Egypt books I hoarded depicting a portion of the book of the dead. One girl my age turned and looked me right in the eye and said "whatever book you read is false! The BoM is the ONLY truth." I'm 32 now and still remember the absolute disgust on her face for me saying anything contradictory to what Smith "translated."
lol. That sounds like a typical Mormon. Blinded by their own indoctrination. Those poor kids
I'm sorry you had to go through that, they teach lies in the church. I live in Utah and I had missionaries come to my house at least a dozen times. It's so funny because they tried to read me a phrase out of the Book of Mormon and I tell them do not read that book in my house.😂
This is all true. I've been a member for 30 years. 💔This corporation isn't a church. It's the biggest con that has ever existed.
What the actual h*** is wrong with you
What church isn’t a con?
Nevermind, I know which one isn’t.
Some. But clearly not all. Much is outdated info or flat out incorrect.
Same with the JW
So many mic drops it broke
😂😂😂👌🏽
This could be the top 1,000 problems of the church and still have plenty left.
It broke in million pieces 💀
I left the church at 18. I was forced to attend my whole life by my mother.. I rebelled my entire teen years and was constantly switching between anti depressant medications. I always felt shame. I never felt like I belonged. Now at 28, I've never felt more peace and content with life. Religions are the kindergarten to spirituality.
"Religions are the kindergarten to spirituality" -- Dang! I kind of like that. I agree that after leaving, I've felt a lot more peaceful about my life too :)
Yeah I wish I could talk about it to someone I was raised Mormon and I still feel trapped
I hope everyone can escape mormonism...and still follow Jeuss Christ...but I know how hard that could be.
If you have strong testimony you will never left the church, you are going the church it's not for the members or the leaders, it's about Jesus Christ. For me if you are belong to the right church you're faith is always tested. All you have to do is edure to end. Edure to the end is very hard to do. That's why some of the members are left the church because they don't want to be tested.
@@marlyngracemabuting77 Sounds like a recipe for a lifetime of slavery...
I grew up Mormon. I'm currently 18 and now I'm atheist. I was always taught that I was in charge of a guy's thoughts and actions. I remember sitting through a lesson when I was 13 where the teacher had a glass of water which was supposed to represent a girl who had waited until marriage for sex and then continued to put food coloring in the water until it was completely red and said that was us if we had sex before marriage. The teacher said that nobody would find us attractive or want us if we didn't keep ourselves clean. The amount of times I had to stress about whether my skirt was long enough or not so I wouldn't tempt men at ages as low as 7 disgusts me.
My cousin married and divorced. She struggled for a long time because she felt like she had already 'given' herself away. Even though she waited until marriage, and she 'technically' didn't sin according to church rules, the chewed gum lesson still damaged her sense of worth and self esteem.
One of the worst things the church has done and continues to do is train young men to expect to have complete and sole retroactive ownership over the body of the woman they marry, and train girls to believe they are objects to be used.
@@the_last_slice9041 I agree and thank you for sharing 🙂. I really hope your cousin healed and came out stronger than before.
@@avayamm Yep, she is doing much better. There's still parts of life that are tough, but she's more independent and living life on her own terms. Thankfully I didn't have to go through the same experience of feeling 'used', but even so, it is really liberating to not worry or judge people based on things that are their own business. You can enjoy friendship with people without the little mental asterisk by them denoting them as sinners or misguided. And while it really sucks that you were taught to view your own self worth like that, you'll probably have the chance to help others that struggle or have struggled with the same thing.
God loves u. God is GREAT. Sorry u was deceived by the devils lies. God is real.
Hello, God bless you, but I pray you find the truth which is Jesus no other way. He said he’s the Way the Truth and the Life. It’s about having a personal relationship with God and Christ and repenting of your sins and turning from your old ways and accepting Jesus as your Lord and saviour. God bless
When you got to the part about little kids and their testimony I legitimately got the chills. I was a mormon for 30 years and I'm now 31 and I have left the church. Every testimony from a child has come in to my head when you said that 1.. I like to bear my testimony I know the church is true I love my mom and dad in the name of Jesus Christ Amen. They would also talk about how they love the profit. And it was all the same from every child
I thought it was sad when I gave a friends 6 year old 25 dollars for his birthday and he asked his parents how much tithing he needed to pay!
You think it was bad small children would bear their testimony? And I see you wrote Prophet as profit. The problem is not with children bearing their testimony, or the Church of Jesus Christ. The problem is with you.
@@seahorse9940 There was nothing wrong with the child asking that. The child lived in a home that believed in paying tithing. That’s nothing for you to be sad about. What you should feel sad about is that you’re taking steps that will prevent you from having your family Forever.
@Hey! The nonsense in your head is all about you, not the Church.
@@seahorse9940 they scam them young...money is their god
I didn't even know half the info included in this video... So grateful you shared it.
I'm Hispanic and the dark skin curse always bothered me. I felt like I wasn't worthy enough.
I had married into a Caucasian family the first year of my membership and his dad did not like me at all. I later learned it was because I was Hispanic. And then my second marriage they would make very racist remarks. I never expected mormons to be so racist but they really are.
Do not let an organization define your happiness or even what happiness means. You choose your life. :)
I’m Navajo and I full understand how you feel. I grew up Mormon and there are so many LDS churches on the Navajo Nation. It was awful going to church with white people in SLC because they would just stare and judge me from my brown skin. That denomination is very sexist and racist. But do not let that get you down. God chose you for a purpose and Mormonism will always be low level from Gods true love. F that denomination lol
When I was young I’d ask my teachers about the dark skin curse because it bothered me and I never got a straight answer
@trauma those that look to be offended will find it, look for acceptance and love you will find that. What you give will be what you receive in return.
I am very sad seeing the discrimination against my black brothers and sisters in the early years of the Church......I am from West African and it is over whelming how the Church is Expanding in this part of our world.......This breaks my heart so much.
Grace Oduro Asante Sometimes.... one needs to pray to God if the Book of Mormon is of God or written by a man. When I did pray I received a very spiritual answer on the third day of prayer. Thus who is right? God or man? Look at the light.... almost see through light, in the faces of men like David O McKay. That light in the faces of temple members impressed me, black and white alike. An enigma that only prayer to God the Father in the name of Jesus Christ can give one true understanding My challenge to you is to pray sincerely about this church.
@@juliebrothers6033 Thank you for this message ....I will pray earnestly about it.Bless your Heart.
There is NONE of that going on. Relying on third hand sources and hearsay: You Lose. We just baptized a Black Lesbian Sister whom WE ALL DEARLY LOVE . She and her Family are OUR Family!!❤️
It’s far better to live in the Today rather than the Yesterdays when even honest Latter Day Saints were driven from their homes in the Dead of Winter without time to put shoes on their frozen feet. And yes, free people of Color were among them and not discriminated. Everyone was in the same dire situation, UNITED in survival. The Lord’s Church is perfect except for us Sinners in it. Mistakes were made and learned upon. There’s no reason for your” heart to be broken”! I’m 72 and have never seen ANY discrimination in the LDS Church whatsoever. If I had, I would personally root it out. President Nelson (age 99) has a favorite buddy in San Francisco who is the President of his Baptist Ministry. They spend time together and build each other UP, which is THE LORD’S WAY. He even donated a million dollars last year to help the Baptist Church. The Amazing People of the African Nations LOVE the LDS Church because they feel the Pure Love of Christ there. I wish you well and that your Righteous desires will be fulfilled.
You Brother in Christ!
Dan
I am part of that statistic of attempting suicide. I did not believe that I deserved to live because I identify as a lesbian. It wasn’t until I left that I finally could be myself
Bless your heart
Thank you for sharing ❤️
Deaven Hayes I just hope that no one else ever has to go through that
I respect that decision, but I think you should leave the door open to date men..
Byron Costa I mean I’ve never been attracted to any guy before, but if I ever suddenly am; then of course I would date him. I mean it’s not that the door is closed, I just need to be attracted to men in order to date them. Which I’m very much not🤷🏼♀️ but I respect your advice
FORMER LDS HERE - THIS IS ALL TRUE
He contradicted himself in the video. It can't all be true if hes shooting himself in the foot.
What was the mistake?@@Absolution-zx2yk
@@Absolution-zx2ykName the contradiction
@@Absolution-zx2yk "He contradicted himself" (doesn't post contradiction)
Where did you go, Andrew?
When I was still mormon I remember very well one day that I was at church and I was extremely upset perin the upset. I struggled with depression and it was really getting to me but I went to church because I thought being closer to God would help. Instead of any words of encouragement or wondering how I was or why I was upset my Bishop pulled me aside and told me to act happy at church even if I'm not or basically do not come at all. To me that showed that the mormon church is not about lifting those who need it. The church is supposed to be a hospital And I WI was treated as if I can't show how I'm really feeling because we need a fake Persona of happiness.
I've been there
I'm 14 and my uncle was the one who showed the lies and scam of the church especially with tithing, but this video is true sadly my grandma is very brainwashed. And how 8 year old children get baptize and don't even realize what they are doing, they only do it because they want to make their parents proud. But I am grateful that I got exposed to the truth.
You're very wise for a 14 year old
You realized at a young age, I am 20 and once I started making my own researches I'm realizing
Balderdash You and “your uncle” are the only fools here. Gaslighting the public like he does should be a crime. He’s Nuts!! Certifiable!!✅
@@danstephensen9032I don't think you really know what "gaslighting" is dear. That's what you're doing rn. Ironically.
@@danstephensen9032You're the fool if you believe the lies, manipulation and and fail to recognize the cognitive dissonance of the LDS church.
I was honestly afraid to tell my family I didn’t want to serve a mission. I know they expected it of me.
Confession. I attended Evergreen about 20 years ago at a discreet Utah location. There were perspective missionaries, college guys, adult men, men in Bishopbrics and other priesthood leadership positions. The facilitator of the group had a regional calling to be the facilitator. Great men, but they flat out admit that men with homosexual tendencies are born that way and it's not a choice at all. They admitted the church had it wrong. I had to be interviewed in a church before I could attend.
Homosexual tendencies--all people have them to a certain extent. The problem is where we can not control sexual urges whether it be heterosexual or homosexual. Sex out side of marriage is fornication, and sexual homosexual acts--well that's just Sodom & Gomorrah stuff and we all know what happened when Lot's family left
@@sidname9538 You THINK you know what happened to Lot and his wife, but you only know what you've been told or read in an ancient book of myths composed by Bronze Age sheep herders in desert land. In other words, none of us KNOWS anything.
@Jim Caponzi Oh no. Its the truth and I'm not lying at all. The meeting was held in the former Granite Furniture store that was bought by IHC. Stood on the corner on 500 west and about 1200 North in Provo. (The building has since been torn down). We met on Wednesday nights at 7, 2nd floor. We read a discreet mission statement and the meetings lasted 60-90 minutes. We took turns presenting lesson material published by the church. Why would you say I'm lying? You find this hard to believe? If you do, you only need to Google Northstar LDS...its now the entity that operates similarly after the church discontinued Evergreen. In fact, look up Evergreen International LDS. Quit living in a bubble. What I posted is 100% truth whether you are comfortable with it or not.
@@jimlogan9883 The Torah was " written" during the Babylon captivity by Jewish scholars, not by sheepherders in a desert land. It was based on the oral tradition of the Israelite people. Also the area around Jerusalem was not a desert until the Civilized Romans cut down almost every tree in the area during the 70 AD Jewish Rebellion against Rome's benevolent rule of the region.
I disagree with the info on the church encouraging divorce if one member is not temple worthy. It is my experience and I have seen it in at least 20 others that they regard it as a oh dear , so sad , kinda attitude. The members that do get to go gloat about going to temple and the members that can't get sealed to their partners because one of them is not interested in temple are smirked at and felt pity for but are told under no circumstances can you do anything about it.
Submitted my resignation and it feels so good.
Joape I’m so happy for you!! I hope I can escape someday but right now my parents force me to stay in the chirch
@@febe1895 same.
I want to get excommunicated and have a hearing, lol. Make them answer for what they've done
Well done Brother.
@Manic Episodes go to QuitMormon.com, you can request to resign your membership online but you must also include a notarized letter.
I'm from Chile where people gets baptized not knowing all of this!!
Aconstitutionalist Countryfirst crack yo tambien soy chileno! 😮
Just about all LDS members who come into the church all over the world "not knowing all of this"
Don't lisson to this stay strong the church is true
@@robertrosskopf4641 Mormons lie to themselves. That why they keep saying the church is true when clearly it is not.
@@robertrosskopf4641 Just because you are a coward and you will not stand up to LDS authorities and look at LDS history. Does not make it a empty claim.
This was a very well done exposee. The music was light, the tone wasn’t hateful, and every statement was truth backed up with resources.
To the Mormons commenting here that these are lies, and OP asks for you to name one lie he stated, and then you never commented back, speaks so loud. So, so loud.
I was a Mormon for 32 years. Bravo for your time and effort!
Grew up a gay Mormon. So glad to be free of the church. I got out, but still have the scars. Absolute hellish nightmare.
Slightly Nerd central grew up a straight Mormon. Had sex and got kicked out. Scars and shame fed to me from the good ol church Agreed nightmare.
@@duramaxdad I have a serious question if you don't mind. My story is close to yours but I never got kicked out. I ended up leaving voluntarily. Im not saying you're not telling the truth, I was outside of utah and I know utah mormons are much, very much more cultish and that could be the simple answer to my question.
My sister just got temple married and because her fiance had been caught having sex (his ex told the bishop for some reason soon after, im guessing guilt) They made my sister and him wait a year from the date they approached the bishop about said temple marriage before they could get married. He was never kicked out or excommunicated and even allowed temple marriage.
Question is simply what do you mean by kicked out? Pressured out, excommunicated, or maybe im just misunderstanding something.
My story just for context. Tldr version is had sex, liked it. I started questioning the policy but then noticed other things didn't make sense and never got satisfactory answers. Pretended to believe until I was financially stable and able to leave as my family had a rule that under their roof their rules, and church was one of them. Been gone a while, my relationship with family is repaired but was destroyed for a time. Still an atheist but no longer talk about it with family.
I'm trans. Still can't come out to my parents because they refuse to accept that I'm not the little boy they think I am. It's not explainable how much it hurts
im 15 and can’t get out until i’m 18, i’m also bisexual. no one knows yet, but i can’t wait to get out of this cult
The LDS should have a two-week mandatory seminar, where they reveal all of this to their flock.
If they don't, then they're the worst sinners of all.
Not a very biblical view of sinners.
We are taught all the LDS doctrine while we still believe in Santa Clause. It’s no wonder we believed. Children are so impressionable. (It’s why the church is teaching it’s crazy history to the children now. It doesn’t sound so weird/bad when your six. “Joseph Smith didn’t “translate” the plates but dictated them by sticking his face in a hat. Cool!”) It makes sense that we would so easy accept it into our hearts especially when it’s supported so fully by your family. We learn to shut off that inner voice of doubt and doubt our intuition. We learn to doubt ourselves! It’s been so hard to unwind all the damage the church has done to me, especially as a woman. Thanks for your truth. Thanks for helping. Thanks for taking the hits from “loving” church members who are so intertwined in brain washed crap they can’t see the lies. It’s hard to leave. The hardest thing I’ve ever done. But I’m so glad that I’m not living a lie anymore.
i wonder how much Satan has to do with the Church.
TL Dr thought it said LSD
The fact that they teach children all of this is what makes me really mad since they basically trap the children in the religion from the age of 8 when they are baptized.
@@uwvadertje absolutely nothing
When I was 8 the most important thing to me was getting the unicorn mod in Minecraft and THAT was the age I was manipulated into getting baptized
I wanted a barbie doll
when i was eight i believed in santa clause and the easter bunny
I wanted my parents to like me 🤷♀️😬
I feel personally that getting manipulated into getting baptized when you’re 8, makes it null and void. Now there’s lots of kids who do this willingly, but if you weren’t one of them, 🤷♀️.
@@lzad3764 even if you did it "willingly," it's not like an 8 year old understands what they're agreeing to which would still make it null and void if down the road you rejected it.
God I wish there was a youtube 25 years ago when I gave up my life to this cult. Thank you for this video someone somewhere will see this and hopefully decide to not do this.
@@robertrosskopf4641 Around the same time I realized that LDS people are self righteous dicks.
@@robertrosskopf4641 Dude, the church is built on a ridiculous fantasy. There are NO GOLD PLATES. The cons who created this scam church made it all up. Truth matters to some people. If it doesn't matter to you, stay in the Mormon bubble.
BLACK ALIEN MUSINGS if it’s made up then that means anyone can make up something like that. Go ahead, write 300 pages a day for 3 months about a story and explain how everything connects
@@robertrosskopf4641 Joseph Smith was a con man and the Book of is full of shit. Most of the people in the church are good people but are taught to shut their ears and eyes at the truth. They're taught to blindly trust the leaders and to doubt their doubts. According to the bite model, the church is very much cult-like, especially how they treat their missionaries. It's disgusting and your attitude is disgusting too.
Christ Pratt well it has a ton of similarities with a previously published work called “View of The Hebrews,” but i’m not saying that Book of Mormon was plagiarized or copying it, just that there is certainly a comparison to be made which would lend evidence to the notion that at least some of what Joseph Smith wrote in Mormon was thought about in a similar way by multiple people of the time.
Yep. I live in Utah, and having worked in social services, I was shocked to see how many families and lives are destroyed by the extreme pressure put on young men by the church to immediately get married off their missions - whether they are homosexual or not. MANY young men are threatened with being disowned if they don’t pursue the traditional Mormon family, and start popping out babies immediately. If they don’t do this, not only are they threatened with being damned into “outer darkness”, they will be shunned by their communities, and denied the advantages that church provides in job/career opportunities/assistance. Countless wives find themselves in marriages 5, 10, 20, 30 years down the road discovering that their husbands are actually gay, and leading a very conflicting, double life.
Good post.
not true. it matters on the family
well duh, they will go to Outer Darkness.
Why don't we just get a gay and lesbian couple
And have them pair up with one another( to the rest of the world) but stay as "roommates"
They won't be accused of anything if they are subtle
And it's no harm no foul maybe a double life but it's also a support Net
My seminary teacher try’s to discourage the class from watching anti Mormon videos bc he says they are full of angry people who yell and scream about how much they hate Mormons. I want to leave the church so badly...
Feb E I’m so glad you can use basic critical thinking skills, this will serve you well throughout your life, keep it up!
So leave... what's stopping you?
Steven, it’s a high demand religion that operates like a cult and most people who are still living with their parents can’t leave, and if they do they could be kicked out of the house or met with extreme backlash and constant fighting. It’s not easy to leave a cult.
Steven Grossman my parents wont let me
Noon Yes it’s a harmful cult. I felt unworthy and suicidal in middle school because the church taught me being lgbtq+ was wrong and I could never marry someone of my same gender. The gender roles are horrible and I felt less than the young men in the church. Staying would mean I could never be who I am and love who I love. My siblings and I have all been harmed by the church. My sister suffered from severe depression for years and was terrified she was going to hell. And that’s just some of my experiences. The church history is twisted. Black members weren’t allowed to hold the priesthood until the 70s. The church is opposed to legal same sex marriage. Joseph Smith forced many young girls to marry him. He married teenagers, other men’s wives without their husbands permission, he married his step daughter, and Emma didn’t know about many of these. Joseph Smith was a con man. Asking too many questions about the policies and history can get you in trouble and speaking out about inconsistencies and injustice in the church can lead to excommunication. So many people are harmed by the church and I don’t want to be apart of it. I want to be who I am and not live in fear of my own identity. I don’t want to be in a cult.
Your original video helped me escape Mormonism. Thank you for everything ❤️
I’m sorry you didn’t have the spiritual strength or integrity to seek out your own answers from God
@Dr. Josh Axe I'm sorry you don't have the mental strength or curiosity to investigate the cult you belong to. (See how passive aggressive and shitty that sounds?)
@@TheMormonInformant it's beautiful that you replied to this comment (jakhow) in support. Thanks for being that person and a great channel overall
@@dr.joshaxe1251 I guess critical thinking is not your strong suit?
@@dr.joshaxe1251 Jesus Christ is the only way to heaven not joseph smith. John 14:6
I feel like chewed up gum after this
That's what gum is for.
Ohhh the memories of young women lessons. Some was even taught with cupcakes baked with dog food to get this virtue across.
@@thehermi Mrs. B, I was raised a Catholic. I am lapsed. But at least for all of their faults....the priests understand and know that life is life and people are people. The devout Catholic laity are the hardliners. Yes, baked dog food cupcakes and 10 percent of your money. I understand.
Instead of a CTR ring (choose the right) the Church also needs an ABC ring for the not-so-stalwarts (already been chewed).
I regret *being forced to* getting baptized into this shit
Just drink a coffee... unbaptized !!!
me too.
Could QuitMormon provide a certificate of deregistration ?
Would it help?
@@gordonzio so sorry Gordon.
If it helps we only spent a year in lds but it shattered our family.
@@gordonzio your anger is not unusual.
The problem is putting it to constructive use.
Hence all the excellent ExMo channels.
I don't know how to feel about all this. The church has been my whole life, I'm now questioning so much of what they have told us. I don't even know where to begin. What about the patriarchal blessings? How did they know certain things? could it have been all a wild guess? I suppose it could but I'm not sure.
The bit about the second anointing, is it true? Didn't the prophet once say that he repents daily of his own sins? How could he say this if he is cleared of his sins and has cleared other members of everything too?
To anyone who has done serious research, what are the biggest hard-hitting facts about our church, I need to see these to know for sure.
I'm just so lost and unsure now, and how could I leave even if I wanted to. I don't know any other way, I might lose my family too.
Did the church really say blacks would NEVER get the priesthood? How could they even say something like that? What happened to the sins of the father??
How long do we think it'll be before the church accepts homosexuality, if they ever do? I suppose I can say that's my biggest issue with the church right now. I have homosexual friends who are genuinely outstanding people and are living happily as they are. I can't stomach the thought of them losing their love in the life to come.
I just worry still because if we're wrong, and the church's safe answers for everything are true, than I would go to hell for leaving it. I might be damned in their eyes now for even writting this comment, but I have to know.
HRCZ, Just be patient with yourself and keep thinking. Keep reading, asking. Even praying. At least for me, that process led to a very difficult but necessary realization that what I had spent my life believing and devoting my time, money, and effort to was a fiction. It's not easy to shine an honest light on something that you've invested so much in, especially when there are so many pressures to "just believe." Have a look at the Jeremy Runnells's CES letter, the stuff at mormonthink.com, John Dehlin's Mormon Stories podcast. Homosexuality was the catalyst for my own exit, so if you are interested in some research specific to that let me know and I'll be happy to share what I've found. Breathe. Enjoy life. Don't give up or in.
Brett Barney Yeah that would help, could you show me what you found on that?
@HRCZ I think you shouldn't doubt your doubts and it's definitely okay to be questioning. I may be very young still but I've always been doubtful because I just never "felt the spirit" and never felt that religion overall is for ME personally. Also religion has caused a lot of awful memories and is toxic and harmful in my family, so I may be biased, but please hear me out. Because of my previous views and age I don't actually know or have read much on scripture, (yes, I know I should definitely be knowledgeable about this to make my own decisions or speak abt it) so I don't blame you if you don't take me seriously. But in regards to the racism within the church, I mean just look at all of the higher ups, they're all *old white men,* never women or any people of color. However, this is just my observation, I could be wrong. And as for your statement about homosexuality, it is definitely considered a sin; "Like other violations of the law of Chastity, homosexual activity is a serious sin. It is contrary to the purposes of human sexuality (see Romans 1:24-32). It distorts loving relationships and prevents people from receiving the blessing that can be found in family life and the saving ordinances of the gospel" ("True To The Faith A Gospel Reference," Pages 30-31 in the Chastity section. btw I believe this was given to us at the Young Women ward). I really recommend reading into the Romans verse if you have time, it's actually quite repulsive. I've also heard a lot of claims from ex-members about homophobia, but I'm not really sure if that's reliable. Still, to me it's offensive since I'm highly supportive of lgbt members (I also have very close friends that are lgbt) and am questioning myself, so I felt obligated to do my own research (Ive also grown up in the church). It was also one of the biggest turn offs and I'm not sure if I can respect the church anymore, even from what little I know. Also in my opinion I don't really like the whole "you need to get married and have children or you won't be saved" because the church just assumes that people are and/or should be straight cis ppl. I don't really know though, these are just minor observations and the kind of vibe I get from the church.
HRCZ I used to think my patriarchal blessing was special too, then 45 years later I read a lot of other people’s blessing and I was shock that most patriarchs were using a similar format and standard blessing that could personalized to each individual. I had my blessing at age 15. I remember the Patriarch stating that I was born into the house of Epheriam descended of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, this would have made me genetically a Jew. This was around 1975, In 2019 my oldest got me a DNA test for Christmas, well there was no Jewish DNA, but to my shock I was 3% black from Africa, by church policy in 1975 my linage should have been declared of Ham and I should have been stripped of the priesthood.
HRCZ Patriarchal blessings are usually so vague, they can fit any circumstances.
When a specific blessing ”comes to pass” it is a good guess. Study how horoscopes do the same thing.
My blessing was very specific. It said I would die young if I didn't remain a faithful Mormon. I haven't been active since about 1980 and have been an atheist since about 2000. The prophecy failed. I’m still alive and kicking. Covid might get me, but I have no regrets being an atheist. Just be cautious, and consider your own circumstances, because leaving Mormonism can be devastating to some, both physically (for example a few Mormon parents will disown their child such as in a will) and mentally.
I recommend listening to the Radio Free Mormon podcast, and/or Mormon Stories. I’m at episode 135, and listen at 1.5 speed, but it still sounds pretty good.
r/exmormon for anyone who isn't there yet
Awesome. Great to see a follow up to your iconic original 50
This is a very powerful video, I think it’s important to remember that active members of the church watching this will be shocked, and it’s even difficult to get through this the first time. That was the case for me the first time I saw this. And it did take me a few years to finally fully accept what I had grown up in, and to summon the courage to leave.
There is nothing shocking about this, as it is not even true..Just another hater of the Church spreading lies..
The Holy Ghost only testifies Truth... And anyone who really sincerely wants to know the Truth can receive it...
I'm an active member and I am not shocked in the slightest. If someone has a God-sent testimony of the truth then a simple RUclips video like this won't diminish it.
@Fran Danco Name one thing I said that is false.
@@rjadair4363 You are clearly a better human being than I am, and I'm at peace with that. Hope you are well!
@Elizabeth Nasekapow Quick question, how do honest believing people in the LDS faith like you end up on this page, watching this video? I'm just curious.
I can't wait for the next 50!
SAME
Thank you for putting into words the many things I have been unable to for many years. While 80-90% of that was consistant with my personal experience, the stuff that was new to me (mostly the recent stuff) has the ring of truth.
Excellent follow-up to the original video. So glad I resigned 6 years ago. Sad to see the LDS tradition of lies and hypocrisy still continue from Smith to Nelson.
Wow
I just left the church 4 months ago.
I was member 22 years. Now everything is making sense. I'm so glad I left
You were an idiot lol how were you dumb for so long?
None of us is beyond being misinformed by an institution. Especially those that were born and raised in it.
🎉🎉🎉 CONGRATULATIONS 🎉🎉🎉
I grew up in the church and believed for a very long time. When I finally realized it was all bull crap I was so heartbroken and angry. So much of what the church teaches and believes in are so harmful. Most of my family and friends are LDS and I wish they weren't. I love them and I can't talk to them about it because they would just shut down and probably not want to talk to me. It's funny and fucking SAD how out of all the churches that exist Mormonism and Scientology are some of the most easily disproved religions but people of those faiths are so hard to break free of the brainwashing and indoctrination.
I could have written that myself. Very fucking sad.
They don't realize how devastating & truly painful it is when ppl wake up and find actual factual truths ...I still feel lost , hesitant to get involved w any form of organized religions. Iam sorry you had to go through this too 😔.
I am right there with you. Thank you for your strength.
@@djadams7795 if any churches true the Mormon church is definitely not. Joseph Smith was literally just a scam artist who's con happened to stick. I was a Mormon my whole life until I found out it's all bullshit. They heavily rely on indoctrination of young children and adults alike to buy their BS stories. Joseph Smith was full of shit and he was a bad person who conned a bunch of women to be his wives before they were even able to be ordained in the temple including 14 year old children. He literally was a cult leader through and through. Also I don't believe in the existence of sin. I have a code of morality and I am a really great person. There is literally no reason to repent because sin does not exist. Why wouldn't you want to do good things because I care about your fellow human being and animals around you and not because you're forced to by some Thug God who says if you don't do what I tell you you can't come to my special place where people live forever. Doesn't that sound like a freaking Fantasyland to you? It's the ultimate carrot on the stick to get millions of people to join religion and Cults that make them feel like they're never good enough.
Bingo!!! You are absolutely right!!
I left this church for many of these reasons. Thank you for posting.
Thank you so much! This is all accurate. I lived it.
Me too.
When I was mormon I believed that gays should not be allowed to marry. Now I don't understand why we would ever want to deny companionship and happiness to our fellow man just because he or she loves differently than we do. I feel bad for supporting prop 8 back in the day
Crazy what people will do when "god's" representatives tell them to support a cause with their time and means.
@@witharebelyell2762 Yes, two people of the same sex that love each other and want to marry are satan-worshiping anarchists.
Or, as human beings with the capacity for both empathy and rational thought, we could rise above superstition and treat each other with compassion. I suggest you give it a try.
@@witharebelyell2762 yep we have a rule book for sure. I just don't believe it's correct
❤️Thank you so much for changing your mind!❤️
Ooops, I guess I am a sinner, I did not consult my bishop before getting a vasectomy. Oh well...
Seriously though, every Mormon should see this.
J. Mormons have to ask their leader if they can get a vasectomy or not? Do they have to ask if they want a colonoscopy? What if a Mormon does not want any more children because he can't support them and pay the Mormon Church at the same time? What if the Mormon make is not married or in a dedicated relationship and just wants to go bareback without running up a pussy bill because of an unplanned pregnant lady? That kind of stuff is way to invasive.
Jaime Garcia any permanent birth control you have to discuss it with their bishop. My husband and I didn’t do this. Hubby got a vasectomy and when the bishop found out we had to have a interview with him. When we did the bishop was “okay” with it once we knew why we did it. Which is my OB said I can’t safely have anymore children.
He then later on told his wife and she told everyone else about me not about to have anymore children. That I must “feel incomplete and useless” because I could bare anymore children. This is common in mormon culture.
@@thehermi Mrs. B, Thank you for the kind reply to a stranger. I am only interested in MORMON culture. However, religion should enhance life, not make it worse. Sex, procreation, and consequences are very tender and personal. They are the domain of the couple and her or his M.D. What say could a religious leaders possibly have in this matter that would bring forth any good? And then, word got around and the congregation and they mocked you? That is not right. Thank you for sharing. From the obviously Mormon members that post here. I can feel their hurt and betrayal by that church. Bless you.
@@JaimeGarcia-pe7bj "Invasive" is trademarked by the Corporation of the Church...
Well then ... in the future .... be sure to consult your vasectomy ... before getting a Bishop.
The whole “you’re responsible for someone elses sexual thoughts” was my first shelf item; I’ve been told explicitly by my mother to cover up around my Step-Dad and Half-Brother for this exact reason. We’re related. EW.
NaDopros um...when did I say anything about being nude? Jesus Christ you’re grasping for straws.
Let’s not forget the chewed gum lesson in young women :/
Good advice from your Mom! Had you lived back in the day ... you would have wanted to cover up anytime you were within a mile of Joseph Smith. Not sure it's true, but I heard long ago that Joseph could smell a virgin a mile away. You'd have to cover up anywhere near Briggy as well. Just to be safe, you should cover up anywhere around Rusty or the Q15 or the 1Q70 or 2Q70 or 3Q70.
Gary Clark love this 😂😂😂
The eerie feeling this video and music gives me makes this video so addicting. Please make more. It’s equally as informative.
Even when the teachings are different, it's uncanny how similar the practices of high control groups can be.
I am currently an investigator of the church. I find the people very friendly and it's a peaceful atmosphere there. However when the elders were teaching me & I asked them questions about getting a new name & the temple they became v off standish. They told me they couldn't answer my question as what goes on there is sacred. This shocked me as any questions I had of them before they were very forthcoming. It's only when I mentioned the temple things changed. I was genuinely curious. I didn't mean it to cause offense. It's really gave me second thoughts about getting baptised and joining their church. A church should always be open and honest with its members. I don't recall ever reading in the Bible that Jesus had secrets.
To answer your question, the temple workers get a list of mostly Biblical names on a card, and each day of the month is associated with a different name from that list. Every man who attends the same day gets the same male name, and every woman the same female name. There is nothing special or unique about these names, but you are told to keep them a secret. Women are supposed to reveal their names to their husbands only. This is because their husbands will call them forth at the resurrection using this new name rather than their given name. Why? Nobody can tell you. The only function of the name appears to be the ability to determine the date you received your endowment by what name you were given. Otherwise, it is insignificant to any part of a member's lived experience.
www.fullerconsideration.com/TempleNameOracle/
any church or creed that requires to blindly listen to its' leaders, isn't worth a second glance.
@AngryMormon 😂😂😂you are quite silly and deluded. Your ridiculous comments cannot prevail against a persons lived experience
Thank you for sharing this video. I was always made out to be crazy and a disbeliever asking certain questions about the church history and things i felt wasnt right to me.
I'm so glad I figured it out more than 35 years ago without DNA, blood oath removal etc.
There is nothing to do with dna or blood oath removal in the Church..
Thank you for the honesty about the church I was forced to get baptized in, as a little child.
Great, great, great video. Thank you
I am so glad I am not part of this anymore, baptized at 17 but left at 20, I was sexually abused by a mormon missionary and was told I was the sinner. Felt so depressed but after watching these videos, I can see why. So thank you for sharing these
Omg😢
Oh my god I'm so sorry. That's so horrible. I'm glad you aren't apart of this horrible church anymore. Hope you're in a better place 💚
Honestly I’m sorry that happen to you
Sorry for what have you been through.
I am so sorry this happened to you..I hope the man that did this to you was dealt with by the law of the land you live in.. He would be certainly excommunicated from the Church as well..
i'm 18 and have been out of the church for almost a year, but i've been questioning the church my whole life. so many years have been wasted making my life revolve around the church, and feeling like a terrible person for making any degree of a "mistake" in the church. however i am really happy with the person i'm starting to become and i wonder if i had left sooner or had never been raised in the church would be for the better or if i ever would have reached this level of questioning and curiosity. recent research in philosophy, church doctrine and history coupled with experiments with psychedelics and a short visit to a different country have made me truly question and completely change my beliefs and values and i think it's for the better. since leaving the church, ive received a little positive feedback from some church members, some still supporting me but others claiming that i never believed it in the first place. i experienced a lot of judgement in general even before i left the church. thanks for presenting so much information about this wild in depth topic in such a digestible and non aggressive way, it is much appreciated and is doing good for people, stay safe everyone
That's actually pretty normal, whether someone grew up Mormon or not, in general the maturation process is just like that for everyone..... Maybe except the long term disparagement of an organized nature from a specific group of humans, hut then again, now days there are soon many groups & chat rooms, that that type of rudeness is abundent in society.
All churches have faults, all credit for you for having the guts to get out. I hope you’ve kept your relationship with God though, he’s the only one that matters.
Stop questioning the church how badly you are. But always remember, it's you're choice it's ither choose to be happy or lonely. We don't need find people or organization to be blame. We can still be happy if we are still member of the church. It's our choice to be happy or mesirable our life. Just stop blaming others to feel sorry for you. No body's perfect religion. even just you're current religion right now. they have also false doctrine.
Afortunadamente la comunidad latina también poco a poco va conociendo estas cuestiones. Thanks for the infomation.
I need to ask you a question: Is it possible to remove all records from the church once 18 I am intending on doing that the very second I turn 18 in a few months but am worried about what will happen when I do.
It's a complicated process, made simpler by quitmormon.com
Your name will still technically be on church records, but will have a notation to indicate your resignation and you will no longer be contacted by the church.
@@TheMormonInformant thanks for the response!
So long have I been straddling that line between denying or staying part of the church which conditioned me to be a full tithe. Ever since I had been kicked out of my mission two years ago, I had been gradually developing doubts of my church, though I still held onto many set beliefs and doctrines with an adamant grip. Who wouldn't? I was raised all my life with an unconditional belief of the LDS Church. Only recently have I come to terms with accepting the entire facade known as the LDS Church. Most of my religious upbringing was drenched in lies. Keep in mind, I have no contempt for most of the members of the church, many of my friends and most of my family are adamant in the faith and I continue to hold these relationships today. Nevertheless, I have been schwindeled for twenty years.
Personally, I would start studying my faith more and living it better. There is nothing outside of the faith that is worthwhile in an eternal sense.
@@briobarb8525 Thank you, Brio Barb. Support always helps immensely. I do have a lot of support outside the church of echoed opinions, including the support of other ex-members. I do not intend on ever returning, if I did I would be going against my moral standings. I hate that, according to church doctrine, women are secondary to men when it comes to the roles in both family and church. I hate the underhanded shaming they force on young teens. I remember living in constant shame and disgust with myself for the entirety of my teenage years simply for masturbating. I hate that the church was brought up by a man who guilted at least one fourteen year old girl amongst many other young women into "eternal" marriage and encouraged hundreds if not thousands of other men to do the same. Anybody here who says that it wasn't that bad for a man in his thirties to manipulate a young girl barely in her teenage into marriage followed by sex because "God told him to," I encourage you to look up pictures of Warren Jeffs and his wedding photos. When you look at that, picture Joseph Smith doing something very similar. That was the nail in the coffin for me.
Thank you, Martin Anderson. I actually have lately joined a new Christian church where I may study my faith and live that better. As far as eternity goes, well, I hope its not the Mormon one, or any of the Abrahamic ones for that matter. The best I can shoot for now is Terrestial, and honestly, I strain to find the appeal of living as the exact same person for eternity. Just trillions upon quadrillions of years watching the universe endlessly go by in perfect harmony. Not my cup of tea.
Same here. I grew up Mormon but I still had trouble believing the hype. I should write a book about my experiences in the LDS church but I’ll just piss people off cause I witnessed so much evil and sin in that denomination.
No you have not been schwindeled... If you got sent home from your mission, then something happened and you know what it was..
The Church is still True...Ask the Holy Ghost to testify the truth...
I’m closely related to one of the opostles of the church. And from that, people treat them like celebrities here. Having a fetishization over them almost. I see one of the biggest flaws around here, as I’ve grown up in the church. Im now 16, and am trying to leave. But from unnerving pressure from family, I am unable to do it. One thing in the church, is that people try to do good things, so that they can get into heaven. Which is kinda extremely selfish. Whereas in other religions, people do good to others because it is the right thing to do. Where they have mindfulness in everything they do, unlike the Mormon church.
You're an astute kid. You'll be ok once you have the means to be out on your own. There are a few members who have left the church from families that have men in high leadership positions who have been on Mormon Stories Podcast. Look through that YT channel for their stories, and perhaps they can give you some tips on how to navigate your situation.
Take your time but you are already awake.
Leave in your time when your material needs are met.
Food shelter money etc.
One of the things Ive seen people do to get away from families like that is joining the military and completely getting away. Not trying to recruit though but one of my friends in my unit was in your position and that's why he joined the army. That's one of the suggestions I can give you as a stranger on the internet lmao. I hope this help.
Well I guess the church is not true any more, I have been a member my whole life, and Im ready to leave 😮😟 scary
You've got this. Let me know if there's anything I can do to help.
are sure, just because of some video calculated to sway you
Leave, now. And never come back. LEAVE, NOW. AND NEVER COME BACK.
I left and it was the best thing to ever happen to me.
The church never was true. It was founded my a false prophet, has a false Jesus and leads all of its members to eternal damnation.
I want to commend you for helping to expose the perverse, malevolent and cultist nature of the LDS church. I personally experienced sexual exploitation from my bishop as a child (age 12) during one of their so called "interviews". I will never forget the look on his face and the sweat that poured down his forehead as he asked me if I touched myself inappropriately. I left the church shortly after that and spent many, many years gaining back my self-worth and self-esteem. You have my greatest appreciation, Thank You!!
IT IS A QUANTUM REALITY for things of evil to COME OUT of the ''''CHURCH''''....ANY kind of ''''''church''''''...!!!!!.....This is Twilight Zone Sh*t !!!!!!!
I hope you don’t think Christians are anything like those freaks because we are not
We have our bad ones too but still
It’s been a year since we escaped the church. These videos helped awaken me. So thank you.
Dear Baxter, Since leaving, do you receive a comforting assurance more so or less from and through the Holy Spirit? Can you describe how it feels on the inside to experience the Holy Spirit with you (the latter is rhetorical)
Sid name life is wonderful since leaving, you should try it.
I was raised in the LDS church. Indoctrination happens young and it is incredibly difficult to overcome. My father, who is incredibly smart, still believes the many inconsistent and factually incoherent teachings of the church. Many people who I grew up with and love are still stuck in the quagmire of the LDS church's teachings.
ALL CHURCHES “indoctrinate”,
doctrines of Men, mingled with Scripture. Only Jesus is “the SURE WAY”!! I have many friends of MANY Faiths whom I love and admire, aLL with their own “slant”
on TRUTH. LOVE, LIVE and let live. A growing number of GREAT PEOPLE with paths very similar to yours are returning ~WITH GLADNESS~ to the LDS Church.
I read A LOT of these LDS bashing
Sites, which builds my Faith. There is nothing in the Doctrine that is incoherent as you describe.
Jus’ sayin’… if you:
“spit into the wind”……
I used to belong to this church..grew up in it. It’s amazing how glorified the church makes everything..the saddest part is instead of speaking absolute truth, leaders will sugarcoat it with small lies and fancy stories. Joe Smith did some seriously shady shit but Mormons looks at him as just about equal to Jesus. The Book of Mormon is full of so many contradictory pieces it’s tough to even start somewhere but the church will release “new revelations” to try and explain why it was the way it was. Meanwhile, you’re taught to just have faith and endure..
I had my name removed on March 20th this year and it has been an amazing, and wonderful change in my life! It’s crazy how blind I was when I was a member.
Just in case you have any remaining guilt about that blindness, you should know that that blindness was a result of indoctrination. It was carefully and systematically nurtured to produce an unthinking, unquestioning cookie-cutter Mormon - by a group of very narrow-minded, ignorant men.
Please check out the BITE model, as devised by Steven Hassan, eg in freedomofmind.com/bite-model/
if you haven't already, and compare your experiences to that model.
McGubligan I started to read his book. It helps tons too.
YEEEY!!!! ENJOY YOUR NEW FOUND FREEDOM!!!!
Your blindness was your own fault.
Dr. Josh Axe is it though? I was raised in this church and grew up in a rural town in Southern Utah. It’s not like I knew anything else. You have to understand that for people in the Mormon church it’s not just a church, it’s your entire life. Once I found out the truth I got the hell out. Which is one of the hardest choices I’ve ever made due to the fact that my entire life was flipped upside down because of it.
Savannah is one of my friends actually, and she inspired me to leave to church❤️
Genuine question, what makes it hard for a Mormon to leave the church, is it because its a must to stay, or theyre worried about what the members say, etc?
@@TiaPetaia I left the church, I see if as a cult actually, and I think it's honestly a family issue. My family yelled at me as a kid, emotional/mentally abused me and my siblings into believing and just following what the church taught. I wasn't ever allowed to question. And would get told I'm going to helll for drinking coffee/getting tattoos/smoking etc. And it can be a thing for them to be worried about loosing all their friends, family because they don't see it the same way. It really sucks to be told you're going to hell and burn in fire forever being a "loving God" doesn't agree with your choices. Really effects and brainwashes the kids
@@TiaPetaia it was only hard for me to leave because I had to leave my house, which was something I wasn't ready for straight out of high-school. That financial struggle impacted me for years and years. But 100% worth it. Also, it was mentally exhausting for me. I grew up believe all the bs. My brain was trained to NOT think critically. I've spent the last decade studying philosophy and communication, and seeing a therapist to try and undue how my brain was trained to think. Still 100% worth it.
This deserves to be subtitled or dubbed into Spanish and Krio so that Africans know about this scam
Waiting for the spanish version to show my parents. Thank you :)
I always felt uncomfortable being alone with the bishop behind closed doors. It felt very weird and wrong because not only did they close the door but the doors were always locked.
@@Keeeebbbb lmao I grew up in slc for 13 years as a white but non mormon kid, I occasionally would play basketball at the local mormon church as they had a nice indoor court and I'll vouch for that the mormon leaders were very sketchy and almost wierd around the youth. Years later many Mormon leaders got convinced of rape. You all are brainwashed for believing and living your life by someone who had no actuall proof or credentials to back up their beliefs. I'm sure many people who grew up mormon are in absolute shock that they believed there garbage view of life. If your not white and mormon they dont accept you and treat you like lower person. Glad I never fell for the lies growing up.
@@jmanman9754 They seem like they want to be your friend until you tell them that you do not believe in religion at all. Then they drop you like a hot potato.
This is not even true and you know it..
That's truly frightening
@@Keeeebbbb god appointed the bishop...how is it not his fault?
Brilliant, especially when combined with the first 50. I wish this would serve as an impetus for other ex-theists to really dig deep into their previous religions and provide similar historical synopses. This is awesome.
My ex husband got a bunch of money when his dad died, hes giving it to the church not his kids, even like his dad did. Crazy
Yikes. I have an LDS friend who is very successful in his career, but he briefly considered taking a job witb a curch-owned business that.t would PAY HIM HALF what he is making now in order to support the church. The devotion is nuts.
My dad did the same thing!
My dad is doing the same thing. It is very sad.
“Name one thing I said that was false” - The Mormon Informant (Every reply to haters in comments) 🤣
A lot of my Mormon friends drink Dr Pepper for morning caffeine and I knew a lot who enjoyed cold drinks from Starbucks
Caffeine isn't against the rules actually.
@@dentonet2 actually it is but just with coffee, which makes no sense that you can still have soda with caffeine
@@srso4660 once mormons acquired large stakes in soda corporations they allowed it. they bend the rules if they can make millions. i knew mormons who would drink 15 mountain dews in 1 night but refuse a tea or coffee.
@@srso4660 ts not the caffine its what coffee does to you
coffee stresses the adrenal gland like most energy drinks the reason why we dont drink it is for that reason bc god wants us to stay healthy.
Really?
Mormonism is not Christianity. No Christian would claim them as one of us.
Define "Christianity."
@@TheMormonInformant Christianity is the religion based on the person and teachings of Jesus Christ. Who was the person of Jesus Christ and what did he teach? A Christian accepts that Jesus Christ was the Messiah that was spoken of in the Old Testament. They accept the death, divinity and resurrection of Christ. Christians accept the trinity. The divinity of Christ, his death on the cross and his resurrection after three days in both body and spirit are the key. Christians also accept the trinity. One and ONLY one God who exists in three persons in one Godhead: Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
Literally everything you listed applies to Mormons. The only difference is your conception of the Godhead. There is no verse in the Bible that suggests believing the Godhead are distinct beings makes one less of a Christian.
I lost a childhood friend to suicide at 15 many said was due to the church causing or exacerbating his depression. After watching this I think that is true.
I'm so sorry, hope all is going well
Sorry for your loss. My friend joined Mormonism a few months ago, and I admit I'm very worried for her.
Nice work dude
Where can I watch that BBC documentary? Thank you. Great video.
www.dailymotion.com/video/x31u248
I think this one is just as good as, if not even stronger than, the first one you did.
Now you just need to add Nelson's near-death plane story to the list of confirmed fake stories.
Excellent expose
Anyone has a link to the text transcript wit reference links ?
so so sad almost made me cry i am eing raised in this church right know and some of my family members are still brainwashed
Please, don’t confine yourself to your parents’ religion as I did. I renounced the Lds church about 2 years ago due to feelings of doubt and distrust for the members, policies, and teachings. I’m only just now looking into these types of things to see exactly why others are so against Mormonism, and it pains me greatly to see how deeply imbedded I was in this awful religion to the point where I didn’t even have a sense of the church’s misdeeds. Please, do what you must to free yourself from this grooming (or brainwashing as you so passionately called it). You don’t have to continue being raised in such an abhorrently rigid and degrading environment. I and my parents came to an agreement where they would no longer require me to attend any sort of church activities as long as I didn’t “persecute” them for their beliefs. If you think this concept may help you I beg that you attempt to suggest it to your parents. I don’t wish for anyone else to have beliefs belonging to a group the individual disagrees with forced upon them.
Thank you
Great video
I love how "God" only seemed to change his mind and get with the times when his one true church was threatened with losing money.
god is all powerful, all knowing but he just can't seem to handle money. It's almost it's like a man made thing?
in this church i had only problems ,they fu@@@d up my life
I feel so angry, betrayed, and lied to. I’m so glad I know all this now.
Your wrong
Sam Watson *You’re.
I know how you feel.... it's hard to realize that all you have been taught is a lie! But it'a good that you know it now and can move forward in your life
Stop it this is true (crying) just stop god knows what’s right and told it to Joseph Smith
It's a super awful transition. But you are NOT alone, and despite the fear-based conditioning of TSCC (The So Called Church), I'd like to bear my testimony that life is SO much happier, better, and peaceful.... out. :)
Where do I get all this info from is there some kind of book?
Not for this particular video. If there are specific topics you are interested in, I'm happy to give you some links.
Sure send the links to me
Oh I’m so happy I left Utah... they live in a bubble where if you drink coffee you’ll have a hard time.
I'm kinda lucky to have friends in church that is like me.. I mean we did a lot of things the church wouldn't allowed like drinking coffee 😜
Haha. Have you been to Salt Lake?
BRAVO! Love your work. Is there a transcript version of this and/or the first one available anywhere?
The first one is a summary of the CES letter, available at cesletter.org. This one was produced for RUclips, and doesn't currently have a transcript available.
@@TheMormonInformant -Thanks for the reply!
I sincerely hope that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints becomes the Block Buster Video of religions.
Sam, under the genre of noir comedy x rated.
@Randall Layman Scientology is a recent big hoax of the 20th , The other in 1905 ,Topeka, KS.
@Randall Layman I agree. I come from a family with Opus Dei members. They are real head cases.
Mr. Layman, Opus Dei too! GD Jose Maria Escriva and Bill in NYC. Although from what I understand being a Mormon breaks up families, creates angst, shame, lonliness, financial ruin and so on. However, the Catholic Church is awful, but Opus Dei Is crime against humanity. I am not surprised Escriva is a saint because JP2 was a member of the prelate. I had a full academic scholarship but opted to join the Army to get away from them 2 months after graduating from high school. May you be blessed for the relentless hell we had to go thru.
@@senorfrijol5305 The Mormon Church is not going away in body because of their money. It will diminish I influence as did the Freemasons. Smitty and Brougham Young were mason. That where Smitty dreamed up all the temple veil crap. Social media, FOIA, and social media is ratting them out.
Thank you so much for making this and all your other videos.
This video does a great job of pointing out all the modern issues of the church. I knew there was controversy in church history but to me that was the past and o was able to distance myself from it mentally. However, once I learned how the Book of Mormon was made up, I considered attending still in spite of my disbelief because it’s still good right? Nope. I found all these things and couldn’t do it anymore. That was when I made the choice to step out. I’m so happy with my decision.
the goat ❤🎉
This makes me want to cry.
It's heavy stuff for sure.
These slides move so fast, is there a place we can get these for reference? Thanks for putting this together. Great research and documentation!
I made the majority of the slides for this video, and I have not published them elsewhere. If there are specific ones you are interested in, I can link them to you.
Oh thank you! Actually, as I'm looking back through I can pause them to read I guess. But I hadn't heard about the Navoo Legion massacre or the Battle Creek massacre (only heard of Mountain Meadows) if you have any further reading/references on those. Thank you!
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_Creek_massacre
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_at_Fort_Utah
My dad raised me to be Mormon when when I was growing up during my early childhood. My parents got divorced and I lived primarily with my mother who was not Mormon, that’s when I started realizing how backwards the Mormon religions beliefs were. I had an argument with my father when I was a teenager because he was telling me how white skin color is superior to dark skin color, because the Book of Mormon taught that. Keep in mind that my father is a dark skin Hispanic. The amount of shock and disgust at what he was trying to tell me still stick with me till this day. Young minds are so easily influenced, I’m so thankful that I didn’t grow up believing all this nonsense.
@Hermie you strayed from what Elder Cannon saidp
@Hermie that or the fact that white on white crime exists, in general kinda disproves that whole notion of there being better/worseness from or thru pigmentation & ONLY pigmentation.
I wonder what they think when a woman is incapable of having children??
You'll make a great servant in the afterlife or you just weren't worthy enough to have kids 🤷♀️ idk if ither is true but being raised Mormon the above were mentioned in hush hush 🤫 as a little kid
www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/liahona/1989/08/unable-to-have-children?lang=eng
Nothing. The church does have adoption programs though. My husband was brought up mormon. They married in their early twenties but didn’t have a child till their mid thirties. She wanted to work on her career. I’m working on my third degree. Education is actually encouraged because they believe lots of knowledge is what makes you closer to being like god as he has all knowledge. My husband and I just have one child.
Sorry “they” mean he and his ex wife.
@@gunlovingurls9200 Hmmm. These must not be the Utah Mormons. Because this sounds nothing like what I have seen and experienced my entire life. The young Mormon women here are pressured into feeling like finding a husband is the most important thing after graduating. Next would be having kids and staying home to be a homemaker.
I’m in school and I’ve had women guilt trip me for wanting a family but also wanting my education and to be a working mom. 🤷♀️
I love my boyfriend. I love him so much, but he’s still brainwashed by the church. I wish there was a way I could help him understand. He won’t listen to any of the arguments I’ve made against the church, saying that my sources were false, and written by people who only sought to harm the church. I love him so bad, but I fear if he keeps on this path I’m going to lose my mind!
If you can't see bringing your future kids to a Mormon church every Sunday, you might need to rethink your relationship. I hope things work out for you two.
Im in the same boat and it’s so frustrating. I’ve tried to do the same and open his eyes to his religion but he’s too far into it that it’s not working. All the while he’s trying to teach me about his religion so hopefully at some point I’ll join his church for various reasons. Which is very unlikely because my religion views are different and it’s hard to believe something else when there’s straight proof that this religion is false.
@@eliza_02s I broke up with that boy a long time ago. He texted me a few months later saying that god sent him a message that we should get back together. Yeah… Cut contact so fast after that.
Now as a general rule, I just don’t date boys or girls from the LDS Church. They are all wacko. I’m not doin it!
Move on. He is brainwashed. Consider yourself lucky that you recognized it so early.
@@dr.options I completely agree.
There’s this ex Mormon boy in my current college class who is absolutely lovely. The level of religious trauma in him, though, is absolutely heartbreaking.
But at least now he is on the road to healing. I hope that journey is comfortable for him and that he can find happiness within himself once again; without the church.
Since this video is about the Mormon church (which is connected with Brigham Young University), why is a photo of Bob Jones University in the video at 3:23? That could cause some confusion, even though the court case is similar to the topic being discussed.
The caption explains that the Bob Jones case would have implications for any university with racial discrimination policies.