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How much did it cost? Berlingo Rear suspension is fixed! (and the front...)
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- Опубликовано: 10 авг 2022
- Sadly, we couldn't film the work, but here we discuss how Bella the Berlingo was re-suspended - front and rear! As we needed Bella back in action ASAP, the work was farmed out to a local garage. How much did it cost and how much difference did it make? The work done was rear axle replacement, new rear wheel cylinders and a pair of new front springs.
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I just paused the video to buy an Invacar and they're sold out already. Oh no!
We hope to acquire more. Demand outstripped our conservative expectation!
How does the size compare to a Matchbox?
@@cornishhh Matchbox are on average 1:64, so if this TWK is 1:76 it's a slightly smaller scale. Remember TWK is a tiny car IRL so this model will be very small indeed. 👍 I definitely want one so hope our favourite quality tinkerer acquires more soon.
@@Finnthedude they are 3m long so scaled down that comes to a smidgen under 4cm.
Just did the same. Oh pants.
Good to see Bella back in action, but she definitely needs those wheel trims to lift her whole look. 👍
Coming in a future video...
Having a garage that you trust is always a good thing. I have a garage that I have been using since 2007 and I trust them 100%.
I mostly use the 1 now as it's in walking distance and have a 5 star rating.
@@jaggass Yep, same with mine!
I've been retired from being a mechanic shop owner 7 years and still have old customers calling. Good Honest shops are hard to find these days
Costs more than you'd get in scrap for the Conway Cruiser, seriously, looks good Ian, better and safer now.
if its lasted this long, then they are worth spending the money on, i am still rocking a 306 HDI, and have had to do the same stuff over the past 6 years.
@@procta2343
Absolutely it was well worth spending the money, The Berlingo is a great and useful tool, love Bella hate Bob.
@@quirksandfeatures3215 yeah berlingo and the Panther, Or what ever the pug variant is, they are good motors, i think later on though the french dropped the ball, x07 range after the x06 range were not that strong.
I've always wanted a Berlingo since my dad had one when he worked for Wedgwood. It's a beaut, hopefully it stays!
Hoorah…..and the “HubNut” stickers turned up…..Thankyou…..👍🇮🇲
"Give it a year", he says. Oh come on, Ian, who are you trying to fool here... LOL I'll be amazed when Bella is still around in one year!
Even though i don't care for Berlingo's, they really are very practical family cars indeed. I do hope she will serve you for a long time. 🙂
That repair in total was very good value in my opinion. The parts amazingly so. You probably saved a bit of labour time [time is money!] by having the whole assembly fitted as well, rather than paying for the time to strip it down and fit just the torsion bar and a few bits
@Retired Bore CCTV never seems to work, and on the rare occasions it does the resolution can barely identify the make of car. I suspect councils and supermarkets and what not don't want to get involved in insurance claims. I'd wager that if a serious felony took place, the police would magically obtain said footage.
and safer, now, especially towing.
I think that without Miss Hubnut your site would not be as good as it is. Miss Hubnut is wonderful. You are a lucky man.
Ordered a little TWC! I love 1:76 scale diecast models, ideal for track layouts and so on which is something I really want to put together when the seasons change.
I love adding value to cars, and it’s great that you do too😃👍
A wholesome Bella update. She's a worthwhile investment.
Huzzah! Model TWC is ordered, I've not know it but I have waited years for this, as soon as you mentioned it was for sale I HAD to buy it. Thanks to the whole Hubnut family for all the videos, simply amazing work you do. A special mention for Miss Hubnut, I love your channel too.
Bella and Bob, in perfect harmony.
Big thumbs up for the spending spree.
Further adventures assured, "said quite confidently".
Over time, Bella will earn her keep, take it from me.
Whilst Bob may need some work to stay in the family tree but, for now.
It's Bella and Bob for me.
A match made in HubVarna.
I get to have my very own TWC all the way over here in Texas. Should be a great add to the collection.
Glad its back on the road, i had a Berlingo van when 1st launched, same thing happened to me, rear end dropped, it was only 14 months old and was not hard driven, only ever carried light clean boxes, had 23k miles on it at the time, you are getting closer to 100k subs, fantastic
£45 an hour is exceptionally good, closer to £80 where I am. So glad to see Bella back home 👍👍
About £55-60 per hour down south of England. Thats cheap!
Yup, Greater London and I wait 2/3 weeks to pay anywhere between 75-95 per hour at a reasonable Indy.
45 is very good
So pleased that you have sorted out Bella. I have just returned from a camping trip , sleeping in mine ( mk 2) With Amdro Boot Jump, now it’s back to my gardening vehicle.. such practicality!
Cheers, Simon.👍
Glad you're having so much fun with Bella & Bob 👍
Mini Tuk will fit in with OO gauge rail layouts. Good news all round !
Always good to see a car like that being treated right. Yes the full package might not be cheap but at least it is all done in one time and you know you are safe and running again.
Good to see Bella back in action.
I remember someone also telling me that another sign of rear beam failure is that you start to see negative camber on the rear wheels on these french cars with the torsion beam. I think I've been lucky myself so far with no signs of failure yet for such a common issue.
It is great to see Bella now sat upright and level. She certainly is now ready to give the Hubnut family many Happy miles & smiles as she takes them out and about.
Sitting very nicely indeed now, a job well done.
LOL I will check if my partner has a saggy back end immediately, thanks for the heads up HubNuts LOL
Those Model TWCs are very cool. That's some impressive merch.
Sounds like a really good deal, a lot of work and massive improvement
So glad bella is back on the fleet she looks rather fetching in her New wheel trims and so does Bob
another great video has always Ian and miss hubnut and hublets and hubmutts 👍
We have a caravan and it's a magnificent machine for holidays with the kids, having the car to drive around is also a mega benefit, more convenient than a camper van.
Great update👍 Bella does look so much better. I look forward to receiving my TWC model. I have a place already set aside on my desk at work.
Happy daze Ian and Mrs Hubnut and little doggy, look forward to your travels and road tests, take care.
Nice one Hubnutters, it's great to see Bella back following her surgery. She looks great, if you look close she's smiling but maybe just a tad sore. For a total suspension rework that cost seems about right and for Bella money well spent in my humble opinion, she should be a keeper. I'll have to check out the store for a model Tuc, hopefully they are still available.
awaiting my twc model with pure joy 😀 bella is back in good form
Hi to you both, nice to see it back on the road
Have fun with your camper! We have a 30 year old motorhome called Jenifer & we love her! Propper Hubnut!!! Have fun guys all the best!
Fantastic motor…you’re adding value to it all the time👍
Glad to see you've got a good and working car, now!
Glad to see Bella is better. More fun towing Bob.
Great job on Bella, it will transforms how it tows and stops, especially with the camper on the back.
Looking good, I hope Bella doesn't suffer from vertigo with her new ride height !!!!
Great Job! I’m glad. Happy motoring👍🏻!!
Good to see! I remember as a child my mother's Mk1 Peugeot 405 suffered the same snapped rear torsion bar situation after a neighbour borrowed it to tow a horsebox... Sadly that was back when they were getting to the "just an old car" stage and it ended up scrapped.
Aw!
Love the Bella story…… I had a berlingo van which was great fun to drive….. had the 1800 diesel normal aspiration took her regularly to Bournemouth on hols….. same front end as yours….. had to do head gasket which I’d never done on a diesel but was straight forward……love the old Citroen 🤙🏽😎
Great news, like you said i'm sure fuel saving on school trips,working & holidays with Bob etc will pay back. Loving the camping updates so much had to go buy some 🍦
Torsion bar suspension, never known one go on the Marina. And I have owned a few. HubNut is top class. Peace be unto you.
With the replacement prices of such family friendly vehicles now much higher than they were a year or Two ago , i'm sure it still represents good value .
I think the garage did an excellent job to Bella. More Bella and Bob adventures for you to enjoy.
My partner sits quite high at the back- Its been checked out and is all fine!
Thank you for the Bella update. Looks good. You can't really begrudge the expenditure as she's getting on a bit and at least you will have a car that's sorted in areas that can fail. If you had bought one with all new tear suspension etc. you'd have paid for it one way or another anyway. It's a great car for less than £2k and you have the economy and towing ability to boot.
So happy to see Bella back good luck with chemmy hopefully u all are ok and my fiesta’s water pipe is leaking so ye byeeeee
Little model Twc's are so darn cute. And cracking idea too, might just invest in one myself.
You may be onto a winner with that idea, I'm sure it could be adapted to other members of the fleet. If Corgi have any GSA moulds lying about that'd be a very welcome addition to the model car shelf ❤️
I have managed to get a twc model cant wait for delivery it will take pride of place on my desk !!!!
Sounds like fair price to me. Once you factor in the 'pleasure' element you will gain from it, it is a bargain. Splendid stuff.
Having had a spring through the tyre on the Mégane this year and on a Laguna 2 many years ago it's interesting you make reference to this issue with the Berlingo.
Now I know there are cars like the 2CV for example which are long term cars whereas the daily transport tends to be expendable but I think this is your best family car since the C5. Having some this work I really think it would be worth going all in with this one for the long haul.it looks great with the camper and I've seen a lot of these vans with removable camper interiors. These are so versatile and have to be the ultimate Hubnut daily.
Great to see Bella back and chargin'.
I remember I had a 306 with very tired suspension, decided that bushings all round and new dampers were needed - was a joy to drive afterwards. This kind of thing happens so gradually that many people would miss it until it properly breaks :)
Sounds like you’re becoming trendsetters. So basically the original cool. Nice!
And that garage sounds like a very good place to outsource some work!
And they say being influencers is a glamorous life!
I must say the old 1940'ies VW/Porsche design, where the torsion bars are encapsulated in a tube, is a quite good - but of course a little more heavy - idea then! Never heard of one snapping, even on 60+ year old cars.
Good you are on the road again with the Berlingo. Just such an ingenious car! One of my motorcycle friends once drove with his broken down vintage motorcycle in the back of the Berlingo.
well good to have bella back on the road
Finding the rear breaks issue was a great plus, so was fixing the brakes on Bob. It will make you much safer.
When you get the wheel trims, don't forget to attach them with cable ties. Saves them disappearing into the vegetation after a bump in the road.
Very good to see bella back :D
Absolutely love the model Twc. When you talk about them in future videos Ian, mention that they are OO scale, model railwayers will love them 👍
Good to sell Bella back on the fleet and she sits so much better. Looking forward to getting my Mini TWC for my work desk at home.
WELCOME BACK BELLA
I think the fact that you were willing to spend that amount of money on Bella instead of scrapping her says everything about how great these cars actually are. I literally don't want any other sort of car now, Berlingo for life!
A house I pass on the dog walk has a Belingo with 'freedom' graphics down the side. It looks quite practical and I seem everso more strangely drawn to it on my daily peek.
Each to their own!
I say if its still going strong engine wise, and the body is spot ok, then why not. My 306 is still rocking on, i need to get under and give it a paint job. MOT tester said its looking its age under there pal.
@@procta2343 I think the way to look at it is of it costs you a few hundred pounds to keep it going for another couple of years it's still cheaper than buying another car, and less hassle
@@superseven220 yeah, my pal has blown 1000s on cars to my 306. For a sake of a few quid, or doing stuff your self, you can keep the car running another few years, the rear beam on the 306 will out live it no doubt.
An adage I always remember from an old VW supplier when quizzed on why his parts were not the cheapest & he replied "buy the best & cry once". If you want to enjoy & rely on a car don't scrimp on it. 100% agree on the back axle & cylinders.
Money well spent in my opinion Bella is well worth spending on she's a good handy old bus I loved my picasso with that same engine great video guys keep them coming
Money well spent making the vehicle feel like new to drive. Well done.
We had a few hundred Berlingos on our fleet at work. Notorious for rear axle problems.
Brilliant video Ian Miss hubnut 👍looks brilliant I bet the ride hight is a lot better to
Brilliant to see Bella back in service, and she’s looking good! For the wheels, I know you’ve got the wheel trims sorted, but you could black the bumper plastics, door bump strips, mirror frame plastics, black gloss Hammerite the steel rims and some tyre shine, all after a machine polish, of course - she’d look “stealthy”
Don’t worry about the 800-and-odd quid spent on the suspension - think about the fuel savings, the Hotel bills ‘lost’ (and pleasure gained from using Bob) and you’ll recoup that cost in no time, plus, you get to keep Bella !
Keep ‘em comin’, and will try my best to obtain a ‘mini-TWC’ !
JCHK
Great to hear that those important jobs on Bella are sorted.
I actually like the colour coded steel wheels (albeit I understand one of them is a slightly different colour). A set of black centre caps would set the car off nicely imo. 🙂
Bella is standing tall now, hopefully she will make an ideal tow vehicle, with her new springs and other improvements 😊.
Not many people spend more money on a car than it's worth and you're one of the few that's done that. Costly repair but you're really determined to keep Bella on the road. Talking of Bella I remember when Fiat brought out a limited edition 900 Panda called that.
Very interesting, Ian. Great to see Bella getting the much needed attention. She appears to be in terrific shape over all, so the money spent will be well worth it.
When it comes to springs, especially coils at the front, they must be done in pairs. Same with strut inserts. A new part will always be different than an old part, and having a car that handles one way going left and another way going right is a recipe for disaster, and even moreso when used as a tow vehicle. Safety first.
I have to admit that as much as I dislike front wheel drive and small people movers, the Berlingo is not bad. Not my cup of tea but practical in a way most are not. Enjoy. I'm really looking forward to more fun.
Happy that Bella is now fixed up, also safer for the Bob trips. Also saw her on Twitter with the wheel trims, even better looking
That's not bad bill for all that work, nice one.
I have done a similar job on my peugeot 205. Nothing was broken, but I upgraded to a wider and stiffer 309gti rear beam. Rebuilding them can be a bit of a faff when the torsion beams rust weld themselves to the arms. It's really nice how easy it is to then just swap the beams, because it's just a few bolts and they drop out.
Looking good 👍. Rear axles seem to be an age/environment sort of thing. I’ve had the pain of broken front spring on a 406. Fortunately missed the tyre but skewered the CV boot and came awfully close to wiping out the ABS sensor. Rear cylinders on some Citroen models seem to have a thing for the limiting valve ceasing up with the inevitable lack of rear brakes. Good to see what is arguably the most practical vehicle on the fleet back in better fettle.
Great cars I've had 2 new ones a 2.0 diesel in 2003 traded in for a 1.6 diesel in 2011. Sold the 1.6 a few months ago to a good home as I was only doing 1500 miles a year
Bella's gone from slammed to the ground ( well sort of ,😂 ) to an off roader, although I suspect off roading will be limited to caravan park roads.thanks for the update.
Great to see it fixed, with some bonus fixes thrown in. Now it will be competitive with the front runners on all those Berlingo specific trackdays. Kidding aside, compared to where I live those fixes were a very good price, almost unbelievably low, really.
Well done and congrats! Those costs including the labour rate is actually very good indeed, in The Netherlands we'd pay wayyyyy more for such work ;-)
Nice job 👏
That sounds a good garage to me jobwise and price wise
When you buy a used car, expect to pay £500 plus for work, as when I bought a old Vectra needed £1300 on new brakes, springs, engine injectors/sensors, etc to get it up-to scratch - which I knew about it before I bought it - hence the price. Total cost of the car was £1950 plus bits, for 7 years ago, thinking back considering I'm still using the car, good motoring (obviously had springs/ servicing since then)
I've been considering a Berlingo, and have found the prices are already up there with the more exotic offerings in the 20 year old motor market 🤣
It will be comfy inside now!
Bella sits much much better now,should be good for a long time now. Have the Sierras gone? Good update video 🙂👍
Good job, well done!
Had a 306 with similar issues. Decided scrap was the best place for it. Last French car I’ve owned.
that's not a bad price really considering the work done
Hi Ian and Mrs HubNut the Berlingo looks great although she could do with a good wax. Good value for money. I’ve always liked the Berlingos
the rear braKES could be the valve that is there to move pressure to the back when loaded, if it anything like the one on the Peugeot 106 will be seized , easy fix with wd and a mallet or fresh part
Bother missed out on the twc model but if they are ever up again I’ll certainly buy one, and an Elly one too if there is ever one in the works. Nice to see Bella back in action
We are in the process of trying to acquire more.
Well good to see Bella OK again. The problem with buying old cars is that you can be lucky or you can get disasters like this.
Positive is that this problem won't be back any time soon but it does harm your wallet.
I hope I get my invacar soon. They weren't sold out when I ordered. As soon as the order arrives, I can enroll my orange backpack with 3 tins of red bull (aygo b40 dynamic orange) into the HubNut Army. I did order some stickers and a Tee
Great vid again. Cheers you two.
That's an absolute bargain because even just thinking about it I thought a new rear axle and fitting not including suspension I used to work in a garage really surprised at that price great to see Bella back on the road good old citreon labour rates down London Bedfordshire area is 55 pound
Great to see her back, for me, green banded steelies over plastic Hubcaps every time. Each to their own.
Great content, please keep it up.