Berlingo Stereo Fiasco (with added waffle)
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- Опубликовано: 9 сен 2024
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Or as James May would've put it: "A banging stereo for me tunes"
I love this channel so much. It’s so wholesome and normal. No shouty nonsense or clickbait
Yeah totally agree, wholesome and down to earth fun!!!!
Best kind of Hubnut episodes are those where you have to remind yourself that he must survive it because otherwise it wouldn't have been uploaded.
22:46 I found you reaching for the old volume knob whilst holding the new stereo probably funnier than I should of done. Think that's something that might happen a lot 😂😂
Strangely therapeutic watching someone fitting an old head unit! Takes me back to my youth and I too have happy memories of a Goodmans head unit!
The factory wiring may use a common ground for the left and right speakers. That's why it only works when you have one ground wire connected. Also, you can now put that storage pocket in the top radio slot, where the original radio was.
The stereo in my pretty simular Peugeot 206 goes through the body module. Is very strangely setup where 12v and ACC 12v are commoned together at the stereo etc. A bit of congenital weirdness, might be the channels are separately fused in the Body module.
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I left the stereo there and put the storage pocket under the flap because it was harder to see the radio, plus while my unit has a remote to change tracks it is still faffing about.
I will second about the usefulness of the Berlingo just had mine serviced new cambelt etc and the camshaft and crankshaft oil seals because of an oil leak before the mot, a worthwhile vehicle.
@@rimmersbryggeri Pretty par for the course with CANBUS cars, the CAN tells the Radio when the car is on or off.
This is the most hubnut of hubnut vids for some time, and all the better for it! Bonus points for electrical bodgery as a welcome alternative to mechanical woes...
Re travel sickness: a sometimes overlooked feature of the passenger version of the Berlingo is that the rear seat has an elevated sitting position. So kids sitting in the back get a better look of the road ahead, which allows for better coordination between eyesight and sense of balance.
It’s also for this elevated sitting position that you get the footwell storage bins, because you have a double floor.
They can see out of the side windows too, unlike many modern cars.
Music for the Jilted Generation is a truly superb album. Bought that many years ago in Chester. Still sounds awesome to this day. Still have that cassette too...
Same here... I guess that means The Prodigy is now officially old farts' music. 🤣
You need to pay special attention to the phase of the speakers so the positive of the speaker stays on the positive otherwise it will sound tinny and vague I seem to remember that Citroen has a white wire and a yellow wire to denote polarity so check them all again. If you use a 1.5v speaker the positive connection should pop the speaker outwards if it is correct. All the best Ian 👍
Just for clarity, Mike means a 1.5v battery 👍
There are phase testing videos on RUclips. Very useful for checking phase.
This is HubNut you are talking to, grateful to have sound coming out of the speakers above the noise of the engine never mind niceties of phases 🤣
The reason the rear speakers cut out when you connected them is because one of your rear speaker leads is shorted to ground .This will be the same reason why they didn't work on the old radio .The plug you cut off was wired correctly lol .It's just the radio protecting itself.
You have used two sets of full range speakers in the front instead of components .The Radio may not like that because you are running the front outputs at 2 ohms it should be 4 ohms .The output chip in the headunit could overheat especially with the added problem of the rear spesker lead shorted .Thought this might help .
Yes safer to put then in series to give 8 ohms
+1 for the Prodigy album comments. Stone cold classic.
Happy days back in 90's of sound offs in the la reserve carpark in Boldmere sutton......MY speakers in the boot of my D reg 213 were that powerful the back seat used to vibrate ...Me and my mate fitted 8 bar graphic equaliser to our cars.......Happy Days....
Tapes were a massive improvement over vinyl in cars 🤣
As daft as it sounds vinyl was actually tried.
Back in the 60s my dad had a Phillips record player in his car it front loaded like a cd player
Watch out for the speaker covers on the front doors mine were always falling off
8 tracks were even worse than vinyl. “Oh, play that again!” “I can’t.”
Ours had fast forward and "Quadrophonic" speakers posh!
I remember well, sitting there with wiring diagrams, and splicing looms together, getting out the soldering iron and the heat shrink tubing. Long after I graduated from twisting the wires together and adding some electrical tape for insulation. It was always a win when music came out and not the blue smoke.
These sort of videos are definitely my favourite. Watching you work out what to do and talk honestly to camera is great. Reminds me of similar projects years ago.
The forever philosophy of hubnut, bought big speakers hopefully they fit! oh and those single decker busses look really fantastic.
this is the HubNut I love, tinkering, something not working, tinkering, scratches head, much tribulations later and solves it.
Good on ya Ian, The Hublets will be pleased.
Ian, instead of using the old HU as a dummy, install the small compartment you removed from the current HU's hidden location. Thus you'll gain a useful spot for phone, etc.
This brings back memories of fitting aftermarket stereos to my 106, my 306s and my Rover 400. Much bodging is required with French electrics.
Fitting a crappy age-appropriate head unit (it was called a SuperTech or something) to a 1988 Mitsubishi L300 with partially chopped wiring (done by the previous owner) was equally interesting. Things were made somewhat easier by the fact that the panel van only had front speakers, so there wasn't all that much wiring. The radio didn't have a clock or anything that required permanent power either. Just a knob for FM/AM tuning and a very poor cassette player, which did exactly the same thing as Ian's, blowing your ears off at the end of the tape. There was also a weird whine induced into the audio by the engine, audible even over the rather rustic diesel engine - the six-seater van has little to no interior sound deadening, it's vinyl floor over metal and mostly bare metal in the back. Still, the head unit had been free and it was better than no radio at all.
Surprisingly successful for a HubNut fiasco video. All working, nothing broken and banging choons available in the Berlingo.
That's my kind of 'stereo' installation, the cut and shut of the audio world. A set up to be proud of.
Late 80’s early 90’s as an apprentice the pdi on new Citroen ax cars required the fitment of Phillips stereo and speakers to be fitted, loved doing that to those. Cracking video as per usual 👍🇬🇧
Music for the jilted generation is a particular awesome choice
I listened to the CD recently again & forgot how good it was
One of the best albums ever made imo.
Thats very kind of you saying you like our company. Nothing is as simple in life as you think in my experience. Top work Ian
The speaker wiring oddness is because Berlingo's use common earth for the speakers for some obscure reason. I used to fit stereos for a living and there was a special adaptor for that very issue available that was powered! As a result you have to watch the phasing of the speakers (it can play havoc at high volumes otherwise) not just for sound quality but earth voltage too.
Those South Wales Regents were built to squeeze under 9ft bridges in Llanelli docks. By 1963 the only single-deck chassis available were underfloor-engined and thus too high. Nice to hear the screaming AEC synchromesh 'box.
When I was a student 40 years ago! and 'borrowing' my Mum's 1970 Rover P5B Coupe 3.5 litre, I fitted a stereo radio cassette in place of the radio it had. I wired it in in the college car park and the first cassette album I tested on the unit was New Music's album 'Anywhere', the first track being 'They all run after the carving knife' the first 35 seconds intro of the track make it sound as if your stereo is faulty, playing slow and muffled, heart stopper, just my luck as a first track to test. The Rover had a speaker above the stereo & one central rear speaker below the parcel shelf, with a fader control and rear footwell heater fan control on the rear floor so I had front to rear rather than left to right stereo! My next car was a fantastic Rover 3500s manual P6, with a speaker in each door that with its webasto full fabric sunroof, 4x ET hearests and V8 engine that was a stunning car with music to match
Another top video Ian. I can completely relate to adding or changing stereos to my cars back in the 80's. Adding speakers to replace the standard single horn that sat in the middle of the dash. No standard cable connectors but with deft use of a soldering iron mostly the new head units worked right away (sometimes mounted in a one off fabricated bracket, a piece of bent and drilled metal strip and some self tappers) and some half decent sound was achieved. By the time the job was done there were small concerns as far as any need for a skin graft to fix the sliced hands and fingers from hidden metal parts behind the dash etc. Oh those memories, happy days.
My only stereo installation job so far involved plenty of choc blocks, one already in the car, courtesy of the previous owner. There was no head unit when I started working on the van because when my dad bought the car he haggled on the price and got a reduction by having the seller keep the stereo. So most of its 24-year life the poor van drove with a hole in the dash and some loose wires.
I seem to remember the reason the special AEC Regent MK5 double chassis was used because the double decker chassis gave a lower roof line than the single decker chassis
That bus is stunning…love the look 😃
I think everyone over 50 would have had a cassette deck in their car and bought big speakers to sit on the rear parcel shelf. I expect everyone had a stereo stolen as well! Mine was stolen from my MK1 Escort. My brother's from his 1973 mini ( bought in 1985).
Best of times,driving with your mates in the car playing your new album recorded onto C90 tape and all singing along.
Great fun as always Ian 🙂
I'd just paint the wheels and leave it at that. The steel wheels go very well with this car.
Wheel trims would look much better than hubcaps too. The hubcaps would look like the commercial van variant
When I think about some of the cars I sold in my 23 years of driving I could cry!!
I always used to do stereos myself too. Had some failures but soon managed to work it all out. The availability of the converters for the wiring to match the stereo to the car wiring is handy, especially if you get the right ones and they work properly. The same goes for the speakers. These days though I have found that I get a much better result by paying a chap to do it for me instead.
Thank you for the video, Ian. If only for the retro joy of watching you fiddle with the tabs for the stereo cage. Agree that Goodmans did good stereos. Fitted a quick release model to my 1991 Montego 1.6LX on the morning of the 1995 Canadian GP. Funny how things like that stick in your head.
I’ve never seen one of those Single decks, didn’t even know they existed. 👍🇬🇧🏴
I bought a VW Polo 1.2 11 months and 10.000 miles ago fitted with 4 Joy road tyres. I was also wary. 10.000 miles later they are still fitted and I cannot fault them. I don't give my cars an easy life. Long experience and many 100 of thousands of miles covered I have to say I probably will replace them with Michelins If and when I wear them out. Food for thought Ian
Two things I learnt from doing mine when I changed the old cd unit for a later one, firstly the front speaker wiring is paired on both sides so you can run the speakers off the same four feeds, you have two wires on each side that are doubled in.
Secondly have a multi meter ready to check which is the live power feed as that will not be obvious and will result in a radio that does not hold time or settings.
The other thing is apparently that the ariel mounting point within the roof space can go rusty and does need a clean up at times to improve the signal. My 02 plate Berlingo gets a good strong signal at times but it is very suspectible to signal fade due to geographical obstruction and also the ariel lead itself can require an adapter to achieve the best port fit for the radio.
The old bus would make a lovely camper 👍👍👍👍👍
«Error 404» You cannot imagine how I laughed… 😆😆😆
I was singing a Un Copyrighted Country song from Canada for the tunes you cant play " Well, my Dog done died, And My Truck ran away, And How Can I Miss You if you Wont Go Away"
My "Head Unit" is making me laugh ! Good on ya, Top Man, Ian !!!
great video and a practical car, I had the face lifted Peugeot version then upgraded to the Partner Tepee, I love it, put my mountain bike in no problem and all the camping gear, had mine 8 years
I believe in this purchase , practical , economical and comfortable , cheap on parts , not hideous to look at , it's a winner in rural Wales .
My partner's daughters (aged 11 and 7) also love 70s, 80s and 90s music from ABBA and Queen to ELO and Annie Lennox, along with a lot of the metal / rock bands their Mum listens to (Metallica, Maiden, GnR, Nightwish, Trivium, BVB, Five Finger Death Punch, Bullet for my Valentine etc.)
Not a Nicky Minaj or Nillie Eilish song in sight! Parenting done right, IMHO, and her intelligent and varied taste in music is one of many things that drew me to her.
Enjoy your tunes, fitting stereos in old cars is always a PITA because every manufacturer seemed to have their own way of doing things. (Ever tried it in a Volvo 240 or 740 where the front speakers are powered by the head unit and there's a separate, DIN-connecred amplifier for the rears? Good times!)
That was really excellent. So relevant for the older cars that people actually buy.
I like the interior trim colors. Nice color combo.
I’ve used the HubNut fitting Guide,2lb Lump hammer, screwdriver, Gaffer tape. Hay Pressto, And it’s fitted. Thanks🏴🚙⛺️
Steelies look great too, but in silver or something darker like gunmetal would be nice too, not fan of green steelies 😄
What a lovely bus 😀
Those steelies were BLACK originally. Gunmetal would look cool, though... I may need to buy some paint...
You’re doing a fantastic job Ian - both car as well as kid wise ☀️🙏
For the red yellow wire swap, a tiny flat blade screwdriver will compress the barb on the wire receptacle and allow it to be pulled out of the connector block to avoid the need to cut the wire.
You absolutely can not beat a bit of PRODIGY 😈💥🔥🔥🔥
I changed the speakers and head unit in my wife's Xsara Picasso last year, bought a Pioneer kit for the Xsara Picasso from eBay that came with adapter cables for the speakers. Sounds much better since the original speakers had disintegrated.
Rewiring for idiots - use an adapter loom. Lovin' it. The days of using block electrical connectors to rewire a radio are well and truly over, along with soldered pipe connections.
Another great video from Hubnut. This time we have treated with a audio tinkering session with added vintage Bus footage. I am glad that your tinkering sessions with the Berlingo are progressing very well & are improving the car for you to enjoy.
I ran Joyroads on my 2011 Mercedes GL450 for 20,000 miles. Perfect!!
I love the bus video ! The lovely sound of a Gardner diesel
Arh yes. My favourite subjects. Head units and Citroen's. The wiring is never what you think it is; it's usually not the way the manual says and quite frankly it is a miracle you've got any noise out of it at all. Well done Ian. I'm sure the kids will enjoy their banging tunes.
Ah, recording cassettes in the 90's. I suspect I spent a good chunk of my teenage years doing that. Mixtapes. What a great pastime
Love the interior colours.
The speed and way you worked those bent coat hangers into that old stereo makes me think you were a very naughty boy in the 1980's
You could also use nails that have same thickness to remove your stereo unit.
Love the Fact you Started with Stereo, rather than Oil/Filter, Tyres, Spark plugs and other some such issues..!
I suppose a Good Stereo is important to Drown out Hublett's and unwanted Enging, Drive Train or Suspension knock Noise..!
Love the Laissez faire Attitude in keeping the Belingo going.!
Good sound whilst waiting for the AA recovery truck..! Very important..!
Which will help the Nippers, in not loosing their Shizzle's.
Very HubNut Logic..!!
Thumbs up by me..!! Cheers kim in Oz. 😎
Watching this video brought back happy memories of cramming an amplifier/graphic equaliser into the centre console of my mk 1 fiesta......
Never had a problem with Sony's, today jvc,kenwood joined company. Have upgraded kenwood in my car ,love the bass and clarity.
That single decker double decker is delightful!
Funny. I just realised that you are the only person I have ever heard use the words Good and Goodmans together in the same sentence 🤣
First time I've watched a 24min video of someone changing a stereo. Nice one 👍
So pleased the Berlingo is behaving and responding to your ministrations. If it were one of MY cars, it would see this as an opportunity to bring more things that need replacing to my attention by making them fail.
I too have had sporadic success with the so-called 'adapter' looms. Sometimes they work fine, other times they have wires that the stereo does not or vice versa.....or like the one you showcased, decide that working as they were meant to is just too hard. Sometimes the little tines inside them need a tweak, but often one still has to resort to the tried and true small bank of plastic screw-in-to-join-up-wires block and some insulation tape or shrink-wrap joins. Honestly, you'd think that since they've been making car stereos for aeons that they would have figured out a standard for ease of installation of after-market units.....but that would be akin to something similar to a public service - and that's Just Not Done.
Loved the sound of the gears on that old bus, mate. Reminded me of the buses I used to get home to the little seaside village I lived in as a kid from where I worked in the big city when I first started work back in 1985. They were big old Bedfords with the huge straight 6 and a manual gearbox that seemed to be only once removed from a crashbox. It had a lovely sound to it and all and more than once I fell asleep listening to the whines as we went up and over the hills, stopping every so often and would then have to walk home from the bus station instead of my normal stop! The wipers on those old buses were independent and some had the driver's one at the top and the kerbside one at the bottom, so there was really no synchronisation between them at all, but that's what made them fun to watch. Those old wiper motors had a sound all their own too.... The bus also had a speedo that went up to a max of 35mph and I remember on one trip, listening to this quiet but regular pinging noise about once every half second every time we got moving, so peered over the driver's shoulder to see what it was and movement on the speedometer caught my eye. He'd start the old bus off and the speedo needle would start to bounce and once she got to about 10mph, the needle was swinging wildly in a full sweep from 0 to 35 and hitting the stopper at each end. That was my pinging noise!
Anyway, written enough now. Glad the Berlingo is working out, It's early days yet, but sounds like she could be a great fit - especially if it avoids certain undesired travel-related issues with the Hublets. My eldest suffered greatly with motion sickness as a kid and we discovered that by putting her in the front seat so she could easily see outside the car in multiple directions (and seeing forward being the one that causes less disturbance of The Force), our family travelling experiences were virtually devoid of explosive encounters of the child kind. Travelling in the darkened evening was still not good, but if it were after 8pm and she was tired, she would often fall asleep, so issue resolved itself. Now 21, she still suffers from it when a passenger, but it is less of an issue.....and no issue at all when she is driving. All the best!
Fun fact, these Berlingo's are still on sale in Argentina, albeit in facelift form. Loving the Berlingo content.
Really enjoyed this. My favourite but was the cut back to the front seats revealing absolute stereo / wiring / tools chaos.
What thoroughly enjoyable watch.
Taking me back to when I updated my stereo in my Fiat Regatta in the mid-nineties. Sony head unit and Goodmans parcel shelf speakers for some bassy sounds 🙂
Hope yer wiring doesn't result in a twisted firestarter. Yep. Good Times! ;O
I once had a mitsubishi shogun pinin, which I loved and then one day I stupidly part exchanged it for a Peugeot 306. One of the biggest regrets ever. You talking about your BX like that, just brought it all back☹️
You are loving this car!
That head unit you just got I think Mr furious has that one was fixing his radio in the rover 200 vi
Wow! That was so much easier than the ones I put in my cars way back when. Nice Job!
Can't beat a cassette deck.
Having the origional factory cassette head unit was probably the deciding factor when buying my car. So I can listen to period correct tuneage.
I went for Pioneer speakers and used speaker addapt plugs which were only a few pounds on eBay.
You're a better man than I, Gunga Din. I have to get the kids to tune my tv.
Good call to change the Joyroad tyres - I had some on my Berlingo van and they were terrible. Very little grip in the dry and frankly scary in the wet!
Years ago a friend thought all tyres were the same and fitted the cheapest to their van. Then, for some reason now forgotten, a set of decent Michelins were put on it and they were staggered by the improvement.
Glad I.....'Tuned in' for this.............Awwwwwwwwww🙄😃!
Iv been using citreon vans and dealing in parts for over 20 years and those 2.0 hdi units will run forever as long as they are serviced REGULARLY. That means all fluids and ALL filters. And they really do benefit from having good decent engine oil put in them, not cheap crap!!! And it's always worth flushing the coolent system and refilling using something like Halfords advance antifreeze, that's the red stuff. Do all those things and your van will love you for it and you'll be able to drive it for years to come....🙂
Happy days watching this and I remember those tiny rear speakers from our Berlingo when our boys were very small. They insisted we never parked it near their school or friends. A Green as aerodynamic as brick French Van with windows was not even then considered cool. Been driving with our Niece in her little 1.2 Corsa. She just passed her test and that little car has an amazing stereo plus a little iPad sized display screen. Our old Berlingo had a cassette as well….How many young kids now would even know what a cassette is?
You should have gotten the RED one. Just hum 'Postman Pat', and suddenly it's the coolest car EVER!
(In fact, the post here in Norway used a fleet of Peugeot Partner, many even 4x4 Dangel editions, to deliver the mail until not too many years ago. They may have a few left, still)
That second compartment for the new stereo turned out to be very useful. Hidden away too.
That was a hell of hard work.
Suggestion, take the old cassette radio our, take the metal frame and put the draw you removed to out the new radio in place of the old one and that is a nice place to put your phone and other stuff
Citroën living up to Citroën electrics hey Mr HubNut, I remember some of my 1990's Citroën cars having similar problems.
So happy you're all loving the lingo
Fitted a Goodmans radio/ cassette to my first car ( Renault 4 tl ). Chewed a good few tapes during it’s life. 🏴
Solid looking steed!
My most difficult radio installation was into my Mark 2 Capri! So difficult that when I sold it the stereo stayed with it! 😉
It reminds me so much on my fiddling days with in car sterio sound systems. I never had the patience (nor the budget) to do things properly ending frustrated that the sound was crap at best :-). Never had proper budget (but in the end I spend more at buying cheep crap than to be patient, save some cash and buy decent stuff) to have a satisfying sound system in my cars up to the day that I baught myself an Opel Vectra (being a Vauxhall Vectre to you Brits) 17 D of 1992 which had to my feeling the best standard stereo installations back then. I sounded great with very good basses en pretty decent mids and high tones as well. Actually, besides the marvelous seats and rather confi suspension, the stereo installation was the best part of the car. The naturally aspirated 17 diesel was a dreadful piece of crap that gave a 1 to 60 in 19 or 20 seconds. My friend had a volkswagen golf 16 diesel, naturally aspirated as well, and he always left me eating his dust (and smoke) at each and every traffic light while having rather matching power on paper. Afther that I had a Renault 25 GTX 2.2 injection with the high-end sterio installation which sounded rather good with normal radio but utterly crappy with casettes. I swapped the double din standard unit out for my Clarion one but without the aplifier and without the Caliber speakers and that real blew my mind. That was the absolution top in terms of installations I ever had. The original amplifier (which was build into the sepparate equalize) actually outperformed my after market amplifier which perfromed very well on my ohter car. After that i bought my very first new car, a Toyota Starlet 13 injection in a sporty trim and in that car it took me ages to finally have a decent enough sound. By the time I moved on from the Starlet I've lost the interest of fiddling myself to stereo's as standard installations became more and more decent. The next new car I bought was a Smart for two in the highers trim with the top of the range sterio, amplifier and bassboost installations. That one was so good that it didn't require any fiddling. Actually the Smart was my best car ever in terms of joy of riding this backpack on wheels. The Starlet was the most reliable one who served my parents for 16 years after I had 5 years of fun with it. It ran for 21 years doing more than 200.000 km (or 125,000 miles) without braking one important bit. We had to let it go because it started to use to much oil, the catalistic converter was rotten (it was still the original exhaust system) and some welding needed to be done.
Great video Ian. Loved the reminiscing chat to camera over Goodman and Sony radios!
Oh the joys of car stereos. I remember replacing the radio in my Estima (as a Japanese import it had a radio for the Japanese market that didn't work in the UK - different FM frequency band). All seemed well as I drove to Peterborough until it got dark and the lights wouldn't work. Just one wire in the wrong place and it had blown the fuse. No tools and no spare fuses so a nice man from the AA was summoned. I did feel somewhat foolish.
Did the same (swapped head unit, lights stayed working) with a Japanese market BMW Z3. Struck me as weird that it couldn't just be configured in settings by the late 90s.
I had exact same issue with the peugeot 306 I had with a aftermarket head unit. Really baffling but at least you got sorted
I fitted my first new stereo for several years recently and was surprised at how tiny it was with no cd or cassette space required.
When you were in the back fitting the rear speakers 5:20 I noticed the back seat with its headrest elevated looked like a Star Wars character… 👍🏻
The best sound was the AEC gearbox whine,what a lovely old bus.
Lovely tinkering. Keep up the good work.
I couldn't live without cd.
Beautiful AEC Regent Ian ...I remember them in Ipswich ...simply gorgeous buses 🚌 😍 ❤️
I love upgrades….nice 👍