There's something refreshingly cheery about back-to-basics cars, no delusions of grandeur, just affordable A-to-B'ing without the unecessary fripperies of modern cars. Dad bought a similar-age Berlingo van when they moved house a few years ago, just for ferrying stuff about in during the move, and it was a great little runabout.
My favourite and most watched channel, simply because of this. We can easily 'relate'. Down to earth, and content we can always relate to in our... (most of us)... ordinary lives. Watch plenty of others, but never get that same feeling as I do when watching in here.
Yes it’s the daily, but these Berlingos have a cult following and are a sort of anti-suv cool. Great choice of daily, and I’m looking forward to seeing the new wheels and its gradual improvement on the channel.
The rattle will more than likely be the actual tailgate catch. On the body of the car, usually there is some slack over time, can be heard at certain speeds. My solution is to wrap a small piece of sticky velco, the furry part of the velcro, around the latch on the body. It drove me nuts till I found it, good luck 👍
Must be a Peugeot/Citroen thing as I had a Peugeot 206 hatchback that decided that its tailgate latch would work loose and cause the door to rattle. Also had another odd issue on that car as the radio aerial seals failed and on the one day during a heavy day of rain I had my own little little waterfall come through the map/valet interior light.
@@bentullett6068 yeah I am pretty sure it is, just wrapping around the part the latch must catch on the body is the simplest solution and cheapest, drove me nuts because only i could hear it. I would put money on it being that 👍
@@davidhenderson7433 on my 206 I now no longer own I just adjusted the latch receiver until it stopped vibrating. The latch receiver on a 206 hatchback is in a very vulnerable position where it can get knocked by items being loaded into the boot.
Got my 1 1600 petrol 115 hp. Lacks nowhere, real do it all. Silent, beautiful ride, pulls happily from 40mph in 5th 38 mpg. I will never sell mine. Have slept in it, moved furniture, deceptively capable vehicle. I think the petrols are nicer
I fitted an intercooler to my Mk3 Golf and it helped with efficiency, especially when I played with the pump and turbo. It was very quick until the turbo started sounding like Roger Whittaker with asthma.
This is why I hang onto my old 2001 Citroen Xsara Picasso. Light and airy to travel in (panoramic sunroof), basic to work on, and, with the three rear seats removed, a terrific load lugger - moved a two-seater sofa last week with the tailgate closed 👍 It's been my daily driver doing 35000 miles in 3 years with only one breakdown - the old battery died. Citroen excelled with these simple skips on wheels.
When I worked for Royal Mail in the dim and distant past, in deliveries, the belingo was the stead of choice if you had to go out to resolve an emergency. Tinny but entirely dependable and very practical inside. The difference in fuel consumption between 60 and 70 is always marked being a logarithmic progression. Worth remembering these days. Incidentally I am instructed to pass on a big thumbs up to the children from the Group Scout Leader that is my Wife who is currently watching over my shoulder! 👍
Great video as usual. We purchased our Berlingo new 16 years ago. It was one of the very few cars you could put 3 car seats in the back easily. It is still our family car and has never given any problems. I sometimes think of changing it but it still drives great. It is just so practical if you need to transport large items. I checked a while back and even after 16 years the safety rating is still good. The only downside is the cost of the car tax which is very high, Only because the government want us to chance cars unnecessarily .
As others have suggested the rattle could be exhaust related. About 12 years ago a woman who worked next door to our workshop asked if I could try to figure out what was rattling in her car, which was a MK1 Megane Scenic 1.4 petrol, and it sounded similar to yours. She told me she had driven briskly through a large puddle to give her kids a thrill! I listened to it and had a look underneath to discover she had bent a heatshield inwards so that it was rattling against the exhaust. I adjusted it back to relatively normal and advised her not to do it again, as a bent heatshield could be the least of her concerns next time!
I am a real big fan of these type of vehicles. Very comfortable driving position and good clear view of the road. I am not bothered if I am not first away from the lights, to me it's all about the comfort and ease of maintenance. Personally I would of gone for the DW8 engine, I am a big fan of these. With regards to closing the sliding door, my mates Berlingo, you pull the handle to the rear to open it, and pull it to the front to take it off the retaining catch, is yours the same ? The other thing that catches people out, is trying to open the sliding door when you are refueling, it has a mechanism that prevents you opening it if the cap is off.
It's quite possible to be first through the lights with even the Berlingo. Just FLOOR IT! in first gear, and don't change to second until you really need to. The MA5 gearbox is very, very forgiving, and I can hit 65Km/h at least, on the second gear...
I blew 2 DW8 engines up in the company van as it had no power and needed foot to the floor all the time, only got 29mpg out of it. Blew the engine up on the M5 near M50 as had to thrash the engine as was only doing 30mph and getting beeped at by the trucks! The engine blew up and split it in two,with half the engine on the motorway, which had to close to clear up. Blew the other engine on the M50. The DW8 only had 60hp and no torque...
We love to hear about the mundane stuff, it keeps you and us grounded on real motoring, no good showing us cars we cannot afford, stick to the shit we often have to suffer with as daily drivers and keep going, that is why your channel is so popular, because you're just like us, fumbling about without much idea of what you're doing but at the same time teaching us stuff, often through your disasters. Love this channel with a passion, don't change Ian, you are the Hubnut man.
Really enjoying the Berlingo videos because I think they are so under rated. They’re so sensible and tailored for everyday life. Keep the Belingo videos coming pleas and thank you for all the great content.
I had a Picasso with the 2.0 Hdi. I used to add Miller's Diesel Power Ecomax every time I filled up. It made such a difference to the performance as like you said Ian the engine just lacks that low down power.
That rattling is the exhaust if i well remember. Oh and take the old radio on out and put the tray that you removed for the new one there and then you have a storage place
Really love this. My partner and I have a 2nd hand white picasso c3 (semiauto) as our first car together. It has 1 owner from new, low mileage. Good space and eats up pot holes amazingly well. I'm a big fan of Berlingos and have adored japanese box cars like the cube since i was a teen. I think their practicality is something that always shines through for me. Found your channel through idriveaclassic. Thanks for the great vids!
Thanks Ian! Because of your videos on the Berlingo I am actively looking at them to have alongside Minty our 2001 VW Polo that although a capable steed is getting on and we are due a new member of our little family in the next couple of weeks so a bigger second car will be useful.
Borrow a subwoofer, do a frequency sweep from 10 to 200hz, and see if you can hear the rattle. That way you can crawl through the car looking for the source, without having to be on the move to trigger it. Though only if it's a piece of the interior, not if it is running gear related.
A nice practical family bus! I wouldn't bother spending money on the wheels personally as the current mismatched set adds to its character, and they still do the job of going round and round just nicely. .
Hello. Not sure if it’s been mentioned but to close the rear door (and this is from memory) grab the handle and you have to push it backwards or frontwards to release the holding catch and then pull the door shut. Fantastic channel. It was your Rover 75 stuff that got me hooked!!! All my cars are at least 16 years old.
I have a 2003 Berlingo, not sure if a feature on your earlier version, but when fuel cap is removed it should in turn disable the opening of the rear o/s door - relation of mine had his finger broken when his youngest daughter slammed the sliding door back onto his hand while filling-up. Also if that door fails to open in normal everyday use it could be that mechanism at fault, small contact switch (not sure if mechanical or electrical) as cap is removed.
Great review, Ian. Wonderful to hear Carly in the video too. When it comes to tyres, get the best ones you can. The price difference can be minimal for a much better tyre. As an example, look at my 92 Crown Victoria. I had purchased a new set of Pirelli P3000 H speed rated tyres sized 225/70R25 for my 88 Crown Victoria. The same week a coworker bought a set of Daytona S speed rated tyres for his 92 Crown Victoria. When the 88 dies due to terminal rust, I bought that 92 Crown Vic. I put the Pirellis on the 92 and fuel consumption dropped. I gained a solid 75 miles per tank of gas. The kicker is that I paid less for the Pirellis than he had paid for the Daytonas.
I worked for a heavy haulage firm in the 90s transporting wide loads all over Europe. I was the escort car driver in a customised Peugeot Partner van with a lorry bunk in it. I did thousands of miles in that thing and the only irritating part was the keypad for the immobiliser. Very jarring having to type 1111 in before ignition. Regards the rattle it sounds a bit like a rear metal number plate rattle. Just a thought.
You can get foldable cup holders on the likes of ebay quite cheaply. I bought some for my Land Rover, but then bought a cubby box which had two built in, so never used them.
OOOOOoooooo.....just seen the blanking plate on the green strip on the dash between the stereos (left of the Hazard Light switch). Perfect place to mount a dual USB charging plug in the dash! Yeah, I know you can get converters for the 12v power socket (aka cigarette lighter) but the little round USB charging point would look good there, makes the car look a bit more 'up spec' as its one less blank plug in the dash and best of all, means that any cords to all manner of windscreen-mounted things don't end up needing a mile long cable. Just a thought.....
With how amazing Berlingo's are it's incredible you can still get them so cheaply. They are a proper gem. I have thought about buying a Berlingo time and time again. Never did it because of Fuel economy (with taxes here Diesel is not an option) but it's a really attractive proposal. Very happy about my Ford Fusion for now though.
Run it on vegetable oil I did that with my mk1 berlingo and never had any problems I also got a few more miles out of a tank I did a 50-50 mix of diesel and vegetable oil
Absolutely love my Berlingo (2014 facelift). Get similar MPG to you but my car tax is £30 a year. With the seats down this past week I moved a three piece suite!
@@philtowle4683 I know that feeling! I moved a flat-pack garden shed in my Fiat Seicento and a huge solid pine desk in my Panda - I loved tiny Italian cars 😁
Being such a family friendly vehicle capable of everything you have so far thrown at it reminds me of my own 2014 Skoda Fabia 2 estate, its the base model with a 1.2, 3 cylinder petrol engine averaging around 40 mpg around town, been a brilliant purchase!!!!
I had the beast of all versions, a 2005 1.6 twin cam! Same engine as the Saxo VTS with smaller fueling. What an engine... 110hp in one of these was great!
Not bad mpg Ian, over 53 mpg. Our company's 63 Peugeot Partner van (the Peugeot equivalent of this Citroen) did around 50 mpg, we let it go after over 130K miles. When being driven, it was fully laden most of the time with work stuff. As mentioned before, the current version of this Citroen vehicle is one of the top rated buys in the current What Car magazine, that's quite impressive for what's basically a van with extra windows and seats. Keep up the good work...
Good to hear things are mostly going well, not that I ever doubted it as this really is the car you always needed. I think this is one of the most interesting vehicles currently on your fleet.
Its a great vehicle.. basically a van with windows... so so practical.. ideal for pretty much anything 👌 ... And you have a shiny knob ...Bonus ... 😁👍 .
We had use of a facelift version Berlingo years ago for holidays here in France, which had electric operated front windows. On a long 450km trip, about 50km from home, the drivers side window stuck in the open position. It was expensive to put right, so probably poverty spec keep fit manual windows are the way to go. Talking of windows, I wonder if the rattling noise is from those in the sliding doors. That noise is familiar as I remember the same in ours. Looking forward to other Berlingo videos and pleased to see the possible Bella is getting a good following.
I have exactly the same rattle sound in my Mitsubishi 380. In mine, it's the third passive cat directly after the two main cats. It only rattles at a certain engine speed. Of course I know nothing about Berlingos so, just a thought.
Have a 2013 model Berlingo and it is the most useful, practical and comfortable car I have ever had and one I really don’t want to give up. Thought the kids would hate it for it’s van like looks, but they loved it for the space in the rear, much more than the Ford Focus estate we had before it. Interestingly the road space occupied by the Berlingo and a 2005 Focus estate is about the same, but the Berlingo has so much more internal space. When the kids moved out we could get all their stuff in it with two rear seats taken out. The 1.6 HDI engine has been reliable so far, and always seems to return 50 mpg no matter how it’s driven. People are fools for buying SUV’s cars like the Berlingo are so much more practical and of course cheaper to buy and run.
My Dad had an annoying rattle on his Morris Traveller. Weeks of driving about trying to pinpoint it, taking off trim to check for loose fixings, and general head-scratching - it evntually turned out to be the aerial, that is much the same as that on the Berlingo, tapping on the roof at a certain speed. Simply bending it up, further from the roof cured it. Unlikely to be the same issue, but might be worth a quick try!
To close the rear doors slightly push the door back as you operate the outside handle. A bit like inertia reel seat belts sometimes stick locked. I believe the rear doors are designed to be well 'locked' when open to ensure that no children get sliced in two when parked facing downhill! I had mine for over 20 years and it proved to be incredibly reliable and very cheap to run, enjoy
I'm a Berlingo convert, too. Had mine for a little over two years, bought as an ex demonstrator from the main dealer with a mere 1000 miles on the odometer.
A good ride, a nice driving position and seats with pleasant easy-going-everyday steering - a must. Simplicity obviously preferable. Fuel economy: yes! Those steel wheels look more workmanlike, and are much better for our torn-up pot-holed UK roads, and alloys are just vanity, damage easier and serve no practical purpose. But it doesn't have cruise Ian! You love cruise! No a/c. No nice auto-trans...! Otherwise a great family car.
I used to get them issued to me as hire cars whilst I was working at various airports in France. I had the advantage that they were effectively brand new back then. Great for hauling tools and spares but also made a great taxi for a night out with an aircrew.
Big thumbs up for Berlingos. My Series 2, 2009, DV6ATED 1.6 turbo diesel has done 177k, ks not miles, and is smooth, comfortable, economical and corners like a go cart on steroids with new Yokohamas (today). Sheer delight to turn the key.
Brilliant video as always. On our peugeot partner you can shut the sliding door from the outside by pulling the handle forward to the front of the vehicle. Sometimes it gets a little stuck so I just push the door back slightly to take the strain off the hook which locks it into position.
Morning, you are getting the Berlingo bug. Had mine 7yrs. Is a 2007 mk 1 1.6 petrol. Done 60 k when bought it paid £2200. Did cambelt and water pump, had a back box, and front pads. Superb car. Never selling mine, I think mk 1 s are becoming a cult like R4 and2 cv
As a previous minivan owner, may I suggest you silicone the locking mechanisms so they don't get stuck and that specific rattle may be due to a rear tire out of balance. I had that happen on a previous vehicle specifically at 60 miles an hour and as soon as I powered through it would go away. That is the clue. Have the rear tires balanced as they will cause a resonant buzz in your car at that certain speed that will rattle something in your car that normally doesn't rattle. Enjoy the Berlingo and spend some cash on it to improve the driving experience.
Nice one Ian, I remember a very annoying rattle in the back of my MKI Focus, I tightened the tale gate to spec, took out the spare wheel (remember those?) and car jack and it still rattled at exactly 30 mph, nice. I never did find the root cause over the years of ownership which was a shame as it was a brilliant car back in the very early 2000's. I'm slightly tempted to look at an old Berlingo as a car for load lugging that can also carry people so keep us posted on the progress.
If you haven't already done so; take a look at the heat shields that sit between the exhaust and the body. They have a habit of corroding at the mounting points and then flap around bouncing off the exhaust or underside of the floor at certain revs.
Looks like you’ve bagged a good ‘un. I like the Berlingo a lot - nice to drive, unassuming, roomy, practical. Keep it real, and don’t give in to the temptation of fitting things like alloy wheels. Although I am a committed Italian car fan, I’d have one of these over a Multipla anyday.
Have a look under the car, the rattle may be an exhaust mount or something simple like that, on my holden commodore I had a rattle like that and it was a hand brake cable making the noise.
I used to drive Berlingos doing deliveries in the early 2000s and they were my favourite van. Unlike the other vans at the time they were actually good to drive and comfortable and the diesel engines are superior too. Most of the rivals felt a lot cruder.
My dad had the Partner 2.0 HDI and he said it was one of the best cars he ever had. And yes the rear doors where a bugger on that as well. Not the greatest design. I think these cars will become rare but really practical classics. Good luck with noise finding. Bribe the kids with who ever finds it accurately on a trip gets a fiver.
I do like the interior because its colourful the green and the yellow and also the metalic green on the exterior and over 50 mpg great in these times of higher fuel prices and a turbo deisel looks spacious does it have air conditioning also looks like it needs a good service some sound deadening and getting rid of the triangle of doom much better than the other family vehicles you have bought this citroen belingo looks like a keeper as long as the engine and gearbox are good and its got no rust it is a keeper looking forward to more adventures in the Citroen Belingo
My Peugeot had a rattle in the tail gate caused by failure of a mastic joint between the inner/outer skins, Blue tac to the rescue worked. The two way exterior handle looks as though attention is required on the sliding doors.
I’ve recently fitted upgraded speakers to mine. I also fitted self adhesive sound deadening into the doors which was very easy and cheap to do. I didn’t go crazy I only fitted one piece in each door and the rear panelling to take away some of the tinnie sound. Also throw a cutting of carpet in the boot and spray some gravitex under the arches. It’s never going to be a rolls Royce but mines way better than it was. Might be worth talking to hdi tuning for a remap if your that way inclined. I can highly recommend them and I’ve had no drop in mpg.
Hi Ian. Very cheerful car. I hope it's a keeper. One aside - you pronounce Citroën what is I guess the usual UK way, "sit-run." The dots over the E (trema) are there to tell you how to pronounce the name correctly. Putting the dots over the E is a message - "pronounce these two vowels separately." "sit-ro-en." I don't speak French myself but I love Citroëns. Thanks to both of you for an entertaining video.
I maybe speak for myself to an extent but I think your viewers are the kind that like to believe that cheap cars still exist and can be run successfully on a shoestring as a daily so, naturally, we're drawn to the Berlingo. Plus, there is definitely a sense of "people's car" honesty and practicality about it which I like. Especially in lower spec
Thanks for the update, Ian. It's a great car, and you've landed on a good 'un. It should give you many miles of solid motoring to do the things you need for family, filming trips and so on. The perfect used car isn't out there, resist the urge to change. You've got something that works, ticks many boxes (not all, they NEVER tick all). So the sliding doors are a pain, wipers not right etc. They're not deal breakers. If the clutch goes, fix it. You've had it long enough and it's a known quantity worth fixing for a few hundred. Every used purchase is a risk, and a used near 20 year old purchase is a massive risk. The stress of getting another 'right one' just ain't worth it.
Providing to be a good family steed. Might be a good idea to go around the doors latches and hinges with a good clear spray grease to see if that will help with the back door sticking. Also just be aware the radio aerial seals on Peugeot/citroen vehicles do fail and can cause leaks through the interior valet/map light, I had a Peugeot 206 that did just that and ended up with a wet leg on a day of heavy rain.
If you want to close the sliding doors grab the trailing edge of the door. No pressure on door handles etc. No having to replace parts. I'm on Berlingo number two.
Don't worry too much about the timing belt. I had a berlingo facelift with the Hdi engine and in 600 000 kilometers the belt was only change twice, at around 300 000 kilometers and then again at around 600 000 kilometers. Greetings
Usually if fleet car buyers buy models like the Berlingo by the thousand, year in, year out, it's probably a good sign that the vehicles are probably the best mix of value, tried and tested reliability, safety and economy. Basically a functional and sensible workhorse, if a bit dull. But I wouldn't mind that so much. The only issue I had about this model is that the MPV versions struck me as a bit dear, but I guess older used examples could well be good value.
My Berlingo steel wheels were almost rusting off the car when I bought mine, so I got some alloys. The OEM ones are the same as off a Citroen Picasso, called 'Estoril'. They aren't too showy and while I really love steel wheels, getting a set of used alloys was cheaper for me at the time.
I got £385 for my Doblo with scrap my car network. No mot needed a set of tyres plus unknown work for MOT. If wanted to keep it would have spent £500 on it but spending to sell didn't add up plus insuring to take for mot .Glad Berlingo is working out .
With respect to getting a few more horses out of it, find a good local tuner, get them to install the interwarmer and remap it on, explicitly, a rolling road and get a custom map for it; it'll cost a bit more than a 'default' map but you'll get more drivability and power our of it with a custom map tuned for an intercooler to your tastes. If you're ever up in Leeds I'd suggest RS Tuning based on custom set ups friends have had there, bit I'm sure you can find a local quality tuner in deepest Wales!
I'd test fit any 14" alloys before committing to them, to see if they clear the brakes. I've had my Berlingos on 14" steel Rallye wheels of a 106, yellow under my green one, black under a silver one and white under a red one and the Romahome. Mind the offset of any wheels you buy from other Citroëns or Peugeots, as these require a fairly low offset.
You could try finding an aftermarket Dial Facia kit to resolve your flaky dials. What the availability is for a Berlingo 1 is though, I couldn't say. If you went down the route of a used replacement Dial pack you would need to find someone able to re flash the odometer to keep the mileage correct.
Glad to see you are all happy with the berlingo Ian they are brilliant cars so practical a friend had one for many years we had the picassos at home my dad having owned all generations and now has a c5 aircross which is exceptional good luck with all the improvements and hope you can get a new instrument binnacle
When i was younger i was alway in some unnecessary rush so it was always minimum 80mph on the motorway, but now I'm older in realised why the rush I'm quite happy plodding along at 60mph in the first lane normally behind a lorry for slipstream to help with the fuel usage! But i do feel people do look at me thinking I'm strange! lol
Hi Ian, I’ve got some left over sound deadening pads from a previous van conversion - you’re welcome to have them. Just peel off the back and stick on.
The back door is released with the outer handle, pulling it forward. Put your thumb on the edge of the door, squeeze, release the edge - Bob's family somehow.
Thank you for the Berlingo update video. Good to hear things go well. The Welsh roads from the cockpit are just fantastic, the 'HubNut Oval'. Hope you get round to the further improvements, perhaps there is a local tyre shop you can partner with to refresh the Berlingo's shoes. Curious too to learn if there is a name in the works for this fleet member.
As for Rattle I had a 206 and the Rattle was coming from the boot latch they wear away plastic, I wrapper few layers of electric tape round worth a try
There's something refreshingly cheery about back-to-basics cars, no delusions of grandeur, just affordable A-to-B'ing without the unecessary fripperies of modern cars. Dad bought a similar-age Berlingo van when they moved house a few years ago, just for ferrying stuff about in during the move, and it was a great little runabout.
I enjoy watch Berlingo videos as I am tired of watching videos of youtubers with expense cars being all smug. Thank you for making the video.
My favourite and most watched channel, simply because of this. We can easily 'relate'. Down to earth, and content we can always relate to in our... (most of us)... ordinary lives. Watch plenty of others, but never get that same feeling as I do when watching in here.
Channels like this are the best, i have never watch supercar channels because is pure BS
Yes it’s the daily, but these Berlingos have a cult following and are a sort of anti-suv cool. Great choice of daily, and I’m looking forward to seeing the new wheels and its gradual improvement on the channel.
Personally I think anything that isn't an SUV (or trying to look like one) these days is cool.
@@Teribus13 I concur.
Exactly well put.
Even better in xud engine guise
"anti-suv cool" let's start a movement #antisuvcool
The rattle will more than likely be the actual tailgate catch. On the body of the car, usually there is some slack over time, can be heard at certain speeds. My solution is to wrap a small piece of sticky velco, the furry part of the velcro, around the latch on the body. It drove me nuts till I found it, good luck 👍
Must be a Peugeot/Citroen thing as I had a Peugeot 206 hatchback that decided that its tailgate latch would work loose and cause the door to rattle. Also had another odd issue on that car as the radio aerial seals failed and on the one day during a heavy day of rain I had my own little little waterfall come through the map/valet interior light.
@@bentullett6068 yeah I am pretty sure it is, just wrapping around the part the latch must catch on the body is the simplest solution and cheapest, drove me nuts because only i could hear it. I would put money on it being that 👍
@@davidhenderson7433 on my 206 I now no longer own I just adjusted the latch receiver until it stopped vibrating. The latch receiver on a 206 hatchback is in a very vulnerable position where it can get knocked by items being loaded into the boot.
I came here to say this.
Lovely vehicle the Blingo. Luv 'em, especially the mk1. So versatile, and much better than any of these boring MPV's. Got to be a keeper this, surely?
Yeah its actually nice! I own a Sharan though. I needed more space&tow capacity
Got my 1 1600 petrol 115 hp. Lacks nowhere, real do it all. Silent, beautiful ride, pulls happily from 40mph in 5th 38 mpg. I will never sell mine. Have slept in it, moved furniture, deceptively capable vehicle. I think the petrols are nicer
@@volt8684 have been in several Kangoos with the similar 1.6 engine. It was a pretty damn nice car
Now everyone wants one...prices have tripled😥
I fitted an intercooler to my Mk3 Golf and it helped with efficiency, especially when I played with the pump and turbo. It was very quick until the turbo started sounding like Roger Whittaker with asthma.
I reckon Furious Matt could do a nice Diamond Bright detail on the interior.
This is why I hang onto my old 2001 Citroen Xsara Picasso. Light and airy to travel in (panoramic sunroof), basic to work on, and, with the three rear seats removed, a terrific load lugger - moved a two-seater sofa last week with the tailgate closed 👍
It's been my daily driver doing 35000 miles in 3 years with only one breakdown - the old battery died.
Citroen excelled with these simple skips on wheels.
When I worked for Royal Mail in the dim and distant past, in deliveries, the belingo was the stead of choice if you had to go out to resolve an emergency. Tinny but entirely dependable and very practical inside.
The difference in fuel consumption between 60 and 70 is always marked being a logarithmic progression. Worth remembering these days.
Incidentally I am instructed to pass on a big thumbs up to the children from the Group Scout Leader that is my Wife who is currently watching over my shoulder! 👍
The Berlingo has never been given the respect it deserves. It does exactly what it's meant to do. Ian just like Miss Hub Nut & Co it's a keeper. 👍
Those early 2.0HDi, are really great trouble free engines. That's not the case with all modern engines with all their advanced tech.
Everyone's watching as we all love old cars. An age when they were self fixable
Great video as usual. We purchased our Berlingo new 16 years ago. It was one of the very few cars you could put 3 car seats in the back easily. It is still our family car and has never given any problems. I sometimes think of changing it but it still drives great. It is just so practical if you need to transport large items. I checked a while back and even after 16 years the safety rating is still good. The only downside is the cost of the car tax which is very high, Only because the government want us to chance cars unnecessarily .
As others have suggested the rattle could be exhaust related. About 12 years ago a woman who worked next door to our workshop asked if I could try to figure out what was rattling in her car, which was a MK1 Megane Scenic 1.4 petrol, and it sounded similar to yours. She told me she had driven briskly through a large puddle to give her kids a thrill! I listened to it and had a look underneath to discover she had bent a heatshield inwards so that it was rattling against the exhaust. I adjusted it back to relatively normal and advised her not to do it again, as a bent heatshield could be the least of her concerns next time!
Glad you're liking the Berlingo. In terms of practicality it looks pretty much ideal.
I am a real big fan of these type of vehicles. Very comfortable driving position and good clear view of the road. I am not bothered if I am not first away from the lights, to me it's all about the comfort and ease of maintenance. Personally I would of gone for the DW8 engine, I am a big fan of these. With regards to closing the sliding door, my mates Berlingo, you pull the handle to the rear to open it, and pull it to the front to take it off the retaining catch, is yours the same ? The other thing that catches people out, is trying to open the sliding door when you are refueling, it has a mechanism that prevents you opening it if the cap is off.
It's quite possible to be first through the lights with even the Berlingo. Just FLOOR IT! in first gear, and don't change to second until you really need to. The MA5 gearbox is very, very forgiving, and I can hit 65Km/h at least, on the second gear...
@@norwegiangadgetman Will be a BE3 gearbox on a DW engine. The MA would only have appeared on the TU petrol engines.
I blew 2 DW8 engines up in the company van as it had no power and needed foot to the floor all the time, only got 29mpg out of it. Blew the engine up on the M5 near M50 as had to thrash the engine as was only doing 30mph and getting beeped at by the trucks! The engine blew up and split it in two,with half the engine on the motorway, which had to close to clear up. Blew the other engine on the M50. The DW8 only had 60hp and no torque...
Now everyone wants one...prices have tripled😥
We love to hear about the mundane stuff, it keeps you and us grounded on real motoring, no good showing us cars we cannot afford, stick to the shit we often have to suffer with as daily drivers and keep going, that is why your channel is so popular, because you're just like us, fumbling about without much idea of what you're doing but at the same time teaching us stuff, often through your disasters. Love this channel with a passion, don't change Ian, you are the Hubnut man.
Really enjoying the Berlingo videos because I think they are so under rated. They’re so sensible and tailored for everyday life. Keep the Belingo videos coming pleas and thank you for all the great content.
I had a Picasso with the 2.0 Hdi. I used to add Miller's Diesel Power Ecomax every time I filled up. It made such a difference to the performance as like you said Ian the engine just lacks that low down power.
That rattling is the exhaust if i well remember. Oh and take the old radio on out and put the tray that you removed for the new one there and then you have a storage place
Really love this. My partner and I have a 2nd hand white picasso c3 (semiauto) as our first car together. It has 1 owner from new, low mileage. Good space and eats up pot holes amazingly well. I'm a big fan of Berlingos and have adored japanese box cars like the cube since i was a teen. I think their practicality is something that always shines through for me. Found your channel through idriveaclassic. Thanks for the great vids!
Thanks Ian! Because of your videos on the Berlingo I am actively looking at them to have alongside Minty our 2001 VW Polo that although a capable steed is getting on and we are due a new member of our little family in the next couple of weeks so a bigger second car will be useful.
Borrow a subwoofer, do a frequency sweep from 10 to 200hz, and see if you can hear the rattle.
That way you can crawl through the car looking for the source, without having to be on the move to trigger it.
Though only if it's a piece of the interior, not if it is running gear related.
A nice practical family bus! I wouldn't bother spending money on the wheels personally as the current mismatched set adds to its character, and they still do the job of going round and round just nicely. .
Great multi purpose vehicle. Must get full service and cam belt done enjoy Berlingoing on .All the best to all Hub Nuts.
Hello. Not sure if it’s been mentioned but to close the rear door (and this is from memory) grab the handle and you have to push it backwards or frontwards to release the holding catch and then pull the door shut.
Fantastic channel. It was your Rover 75 stuff that got me hooked!!!
All my cars are at least 16 years old.
I have a 2003 Berlingo, not sure if a feature on your earlier version, but when fuel cap is removed it should in turn disable the opening of the rear o/s door - relation of mine had his finger broken when his youngest daughter slammed the sliding door back onto his hand while filling-up. Also if that door fails to open in normal everyday use it could be that mechanism at fault, small contact switch (not sure if mechanical or electrical) as cap is removed.
Great review, Ian. Wonderful to hear Carly in the video too. When it comes to tyres, get the best ones you can. The price difference can be minimal for a much better tyre. As an example, look at my 92 Crown Victoria. I had purchased a new set of Pirelli P3000 H speed rated tyres sized 225/70R25 for my 88 Crown Victoria. The same week a coworker bought a set of Daytona S speed rated tyres for his 92 Crown Victoria. When the 88 dies due to terminal rust, I bought that 92 Crown Vic. I put the Pirellis on the 92 and fuel consumption dropped. I gained a solid 75 miles per tank of gas. The kicker is that I paid less for the Pirellis than he had paid for the Daytonas.
I worked for a heavy haulage firm in the 90s transporting wide loads all over Europe. I was the escort car driver in a customised Peugeot Partner van with a lorry bunk in it. I did thousands of miles in that thing and the only irritating part was the keypad for the immobiliser. Very jarring having to type 1111 in before ignition. Regards the rattle it sounds a bit like a rear metal number plate rattle. Just a thought.
You can get foldable cup holders on the likes of ebay quite cheaply. I bought some for my Land Rover, but then bought a cubby box which had two built in, so never used them.
OOOOOoooooo.....just seen the blanking plate on the green strip on the dash between the stereos (left of the Hazard Light switch). Perfect place to mount a dual USB charging plug in the dash! Yeah, I know you can get converters for the 12v power socket (aka cigarette lighter) but the little round USB charging point would look good there, makes the car look a bit more 'up spec' as its one less blank plug in the dash and best of all, means that any cords to all manner of windscreen-mounted things don't end up needing a mile long cable. Just a thought.....
I'm a big fan of this car already. I think it's definitely worth spending some more money on
With how amazing Berlingo's are it's incredible you can still get them so cheaply. They are a proper gem.
I have thought about buying a Berlingo time and time again. Never did it because of Fuel economy (with taxes here Diesel is not an option) but it's a really attractive proposal.
Very happy about my Ford Fusion for now though.
53 MPG Imperial = 44 MPG U.S. = 5.3 L/100km
Run it on vegetable oil I did that with my mk1 berlingo and never had any problems I also got a few more miles out of a tank I did a 50-50 mix of diesel and vegetable oil
Don't think you can do that on HDI engines. I maybe wrong.
@@jaggass my mk1 berlingo had a mechanical fuel system so it was fine running on vegetable oil I had the 2 L HDI engine
Absolutely love my Berlingo (2014 facelift). Get similar MPG to you but my car tax is £30 a year. With the seats down this past week I moved a three piece suite!
I once moved a single bed in a fiat uno. I was pretty much squashed against the steering wheel.
@@philtowle4683 I know that feeling! I moved a flat-pack garden shed in my Fiat Seicento and a huge solid pine desk in my Panda - I loved tiny Italian cars 😁
Now everyone wants one...prices have tripled😥
Being such a family friendly vehicle capable of everything you have so far thrown at it reminds me of my own 2014 Skoda Fabia 2 estate, its the base model with a 1.2, 3 cylinder petrol engine averaging around 40 mpg around town, been a brilliant purchase!!!!
"Shiny knob" . That made me laugh. Great to see the positives are outweighing the negatives. Great video as always .
I had the beast of all versions, a 2005 1.6 twin cam! Same engine as the Saxo VTS with smaller fueling. What an engine... 110hp in one of these was great!
Ps... the doors should just pull back forward from the outside?1? Just pull the handle toward the front of the car. Mine did!
I have the latest Citroen Berlingo 2019 it’s the most versatile car I’ve ever owned love it.
Not bad mpg Ian, over 53 mpg. Our company's 63 Peugeot Partner van (the Peugeot equivalent of this Citroen) did around 50 mpg, we let it go after over 130K miles. When being driven, it was fully laden most of the time with work stuff. As mentioned before, the current version of this Citroen vehicle is one of the top rated buys in the current What Car magazine, that's quite impressive for what's basically a van with extra windows and seats. Keep up the good work...
Good to hear things are mostly going well, not that I ever doubted it as this really is the car you always needed.
I think this is one of the most interesting vehicles currently on your fleet.
Its a great vehicle.. basically a van with windows... so so practical.. ideal for pretty much anything 👌 ... And you have a shiny knob ...Bonus ... 😁👍
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We had use of a facelift version Berlingo years ago for holidays here in France, which had electric operated front windows. On a long 450km trip, about 50km from home, the drivers side window stuck in the open position. It was expensive to put right, so probably poverty spec keep fit manual windows are the way to go.
Talking of windows, I wonder if the rattling noise is from those in the sliding doors. That noise is familiar as I remember the same in ours.
Looking forward to other Berlingo videos and pleased to see the possible Bella is getting a good following.
I have exactly the same rattle sound in my Mitsubishi 380. In mine, it's the third passive cat directly after the two main cats. It only rattles at a certain engine speed. Of course I know nothing about Berlingos so, just a thought.
Have a 2013 model Berlingo and it is the most useful, practical and comfortable car I have ever had and one I really don’t want to give up. Thought the kids would hate it for it’s van like looks, but they loved it for the space in the rear, much more than the Ford Focus estate we had before it. Interestingly the road space occupied by the Berlingo and a 2005 Focus estate is about the same, but the Berlingo has so much more internal space. When the kids moved out we could get all their stuff in it with two rear seats taken out. The 1.6 HDI engine has been reliable so far, and always seems to return 50 mpg no matter how it’s driven. People are fools for buying SUV’s cars like the Berlingo are so much more practical and of course cheaper to buy and run.
Glad you are enjoying the Berlingo
My Dad had an annoying rattle on his Morris Traveller. Weeks of driving about trying to pinpoint it, taking off trim to check for loose fixings, and general head-scratching - it evntually turned out to be the aerial, that is much the same as that on the Berlingo, tapping on the roof at a certain speed. Simply bending it up, further from the roof cured it.
Unlikely to be the same issue, but might be worth a quick try!
To close the rear doors slightly push the door back as you operate the outside handle. A bit like inertia reel seat belts sometimes stick locked. I believe the rear doors are designed to be well 'locked' when open to ensure that no children get sliced in two when parked facing downhill! I had mine for over 20 years and it proved to be incredibly reliable and very cheap to run, enjoy
I'm a Berlingo convert, too. Had mine for a little over two years, bought as an ex demonstrator from the main dealer with a mere 1000 miles on the odometer.
I'm glad it's working out. It sounds quiet inside for a van based car 👍 Thanks for sharing 😊
The passenger based Berlingo vans had a little bit more soundproofing.
A good ride, a nice driving position and seats with pleasant easy-going-everyday steering - a must. Simplicity obviously preferable. Fuel economy: yes! Those steel wheels look more workmanlike, and are much better for our torn-up pot-holed UK roads, and alloys are just vanity, damage easier and serve no practical purpose.
But it doesn't have cruise Ian! You love cruise!
No a/c. No nice auto-trans...! Otherwise a great family car.
Love Berlingo videos I drive 2014 one had it since 2018 it’s great for family car and doing school run with three boys
I used to get them issued to me as hire cars whilst I was working at various airports in France. I had the advantage that they were effectively brand new back then.
Great for hauling tools and spares but also made a great taxi for a night out with an aircrew.
Big thumbs up for Berlingos. My Series 2, 2009, DV6ATED 1.6 turbo diesel has done 177k, ks not miles, and is smooth, comfortable, economical and corners like a go cart on steroids with new Yokohamas (today). Sheer delight to turn the key.
I miss my Berlingo, it moved stuff so well and had great visibility. But most of all, it just felt friendly and dependable.
Yes, I'm really enjoying this series, partly because I have a base model Pug Partner facelift. 186,000 miles.
Brilliant video as always. On our peugeot partner you can shut the sliding door from the outside by pulling the handle forward to the front of the vehicle. Sometimes it gets a little stuck so I just push the door back slightly to take the strain off the hook which locks it into position.
I was just about to comment the same thing.
Me too! I had to loosen mine off on my partner.
Now everyone wants one...prices have tripled😥
Inside the tailgate you might find a piece of tin on a string with a message "vous m'avez trouvé" (So goes the old car factory legend)
Morning, you are getting the Berlingo bug. Had mine 7yrs. Is a 2007 mk 1 1.6 petrol. Done 60 k when bought it paid £2200. Did cambelt and water pump, had a back box, and front pads. Superb car. Never selling mine, I think mk 1 s are becoming a cult like R4 and2 cv
As a previous minivan owner, may I suggest you silicone the locking mechanisms so they don't get stuck and that specific rattle may be due to a rear tire out of balance. I had that happen on a previous vehicle specifically at 60 miles an hour and as soon as I powered through it would go away. That is the clue. Have the rear tires balanced as they will cause a resonant buzz in your car at that certain speed that will rattle something in your car that normally doesn't rattle. Enjoy the Berlingo and spend some cash on it to improve the driving experience.
got a 2004,2.0 hdi berlingo absolutely love these cars ,does everything, very practical and great driving position 👍 😀, its a keeper ian
Now everyone wants one...prices have tripled😥
Nice one Ian, I remember a very annoying rattle in the back of my MKI Focus, I tightened the tale gate to spec, took out the spare wheel (remember those?) and car jack and it still rattled at exactly 30 mph, nice. I never did find the root cause over the years of ownership which was a shame as it was a brilliant car back in the very early 2000's. I'm slightly tempted to look at an old Berlingo as a car for load lugging that can also carry people so keep us posted on the progress.
If you haven't already done so; take a look at the heat shields that sit between the exhaust and the body. They have a habit of corroding at the mounting points and then flap around bouncing off the exhaust or underside of the floor at certain revs.
Love the Shitroen Berlingo, keep the steel wheels, they add to the overall character of this cool car!
Looks like you’ve bagged a good ‘un. I like the Berlingo a lot - nice to drive, unassuming, roomy, practical. Keep it real, and don’t give in to the temptation of fitting things like alloy wheels. Although I am a committed Italian car fan, I’d have one of these over a Multipla anyday.
Have a look under the car, the rattle may be an exhaust mount or something simple like that, on my holden commodore I had a rattle like that and it was a hand brake cable making the noise.
I used to drive Berlingos doing deliveries in the early 2000s and they were my favourite van. Unlike the other vans at the time they were actually good to drive and comfortable and the diesel engines are superior too. Most of the rivals felt a lot cruder.
My dad had the Partner 2.0 HDI and he said it was one of the best cars he ever had. And yes the rear doors where a bugger on that as well. Not the greatest design. I think these cars will become rare but really practical classics. Good luck with noise finding. Bribe the kids with who ever finds it accurately on a trip gets a fiver.
I do like the interior because its colourful the green and the yellow and also the metalic green on the exterior and over 50 mpg great in these times of higher fuel prices and a turbo deisel looks spacious does it have air conditioning also looks like it needs a good service some sound deadening and getting rid of the triangle of doom much better than the other family vehicles you have bought this citroen belingo looks like a keeper as long as the engine and gearbox are good and its got no rust it is a keeper looking forward to more adventures in the Citroen Belingo
I’d love one . They exude laid back coolness to me
My Peugeot had a rattle in the tail gate caused by failure of a mastic joint between the inner/outer skins, Blue tac to the rescue worked. The two way exterior handle looks as though attention is required on the sliding doors.
I’ve recently fitted upgraded speakers to mine. I also fitted self adhesive sound deadening into the doors which was very easy and cheap to do. I didn’t go crazy I only fitted one piece in each door and the rear panelling to take away some of the tinnie sound. Also throw a cutting of carpet in the boot and spray some gravitex under the arches. It’s never going to be a rolls Royce but mines way better than it was. Might be worth talking to hdi tuning for a remap if your that way inclined. I can highly recommend them and I’ve had no drop in mpg.
You made me jump when the camera dropped - I thought you’d had an accident!
I hope this is a dependable little bus for you both!
Hi Ian. Very cheerful car. I hope it's a keeper.
One aside - you pronounce Citroën what is I guess the usual UK way, "sit-run."
The dots over the E (trema) are there to tell you how to pronounce the name correctly. Putting the dots over the E is a message - "pronounce these two vowels separately." "sit-ro-en."
I don't speak French myself but I love Citroëns.
Thanks to both of you for an entertaining video.
I maybe speak for myself to an extent but I think your viewers are the kind that like to believe that cheap cars still exist and can be run successfully on a shoestring as a daily so, naturally, we're drawn to the Berlingo. Plus, there is definitely a sense of "people's car" honesty and practicality about it which I like. Especially in lower spec
I’m not sure if I’m unwell, but I really like the green interior
Thanks for the update, Ian. It's a great car, and you've landed on a good 'un. It should give you many miles of solid motoring to do the things you need for family, filming trips and so on. The perfect used car isn't out there, resist the urge to change. You've got something that works, ticks many boxes (not all, they NEVER tick all). So the sliding doors are a pain, wipers not right etc. They're not deal breakers. If the clutch goes, fix it. You've had it long enough and it's a known quantity worth fixing for a few hundred. Every used purchase is a risk, and a used near 20 year old purchase is a massive risk. The stress of getting another 'right one' just ain't worth it.
Providing to be a good family steed. Might be a good idea to go around the doors latches and hinges with a good clear spray grease to see if that will help with the back door sticking. Also just be aware the radio aerial seals on Peugeot/citroen vehicles do fail and can cause leaks through the interior valet/map light, I had a Peugeot 206 that did just that and ended up with a wet leg on a day of heavy rain.
If you want to close the sliding doors grab the trailing edge of the door. No pressure on door handles etc. No having to replace parts. I'm on Berlingo number two.
Don't worry too much about the timing belt. I had a berlingo facelift with the Hdi engine and in 600 000 kilometers the belt was only change twice, at around 300 000 kilometers and then again at around 600 000 kilometers. Greetings
Usually if fleet car buyers buy models like the Berlingo by the thousand, year in, year out, it's probably a good sign that the vehicles are probably the best mix of value, tried and tested reliability, safety and economy. Basically a functional and sensible workhorse, if a bit dull. But I wouldn't mind that so much. The only issue I had about this model is that the MPV versions struck me as a bit dear, but I guess older used examples could well be good value.
My Berlingo steel wheels were almost rusting off the car when I bought mine, so I got some alloys. The OEM ones are the same as off a Citroen Picasso, called 'Estoril'. They aren't too showy and while I really love steel wheels, getting a set of used alloys was cheaper for me at the time.
You can use the outside handle to shut the sliding doors. try pushing the door open a bit while pulling the handle towards the front.
Exterior handle just doesn't seem to activate the locking mechanism, even when pushed back a bit.
I got £385 for my Doblo with scrap my car network. No mot needed a set of tyres plus unknown work for MOT. If wanted to keep it would have spent £500 on it but spending to sell didn't add up plus insuring to take for mot .Glad Berlingo is working out .
Picked up the exact same but Panel Van version for £750! using it to move house but might turn it into a mini camper!
With respect to getting a few more horses out of it, find a good local tuner, get them to install the interwarmer and remap it on, explicitly, a rolling road and get a custom map for it; it'll cost a bit more than a 'default' map but you'll get more drivability and power our of it with a custom map tuned for an intercooler to your tastes.
If you're ever up in Leeds I'd suggest RS Tuning based on custom set ups friends have had there, bit I'm sure you can find a local quality tuner in deepest Wales!
I'd test fit any 14" alloys before committing to them, to see if they clear the brakes. I've had my Berlingos on 14" steel Rallye wheels of a 106, yellow under my green one, black under a silver one and white under a red one and the Romahome. Mind the offset of any wheels you buy from other Citroëns or Peugeots, as these require a fairly low offset.
You could try finding an aftermarket Dial Facia kit to resolve your flaky dials.
What the availability is for a Berlingo 1 is though, I couldn't say.
If you went down the route of a used replacement Dial pack you would need to find someone able to re flash the odometer to keep the mileage correct.
Glad to see you are all happy with the berlingo Ian they are brilliant cars so practical a friend had one for many years we had the picassos at home my dad having owned all generations and now has a c5 aircross which is exceptional good luck with all the improvements and hope you can get a new instrument binnacle
I have the Peugeot version on an 07 plate, love it it’s so useful
When i was younger i was alway in some unnecessary rush so it was always minimum 80mph on the motorway, but now I'm older in realised why the rush I'm quite happy plodding along at 60mph in the first lane normally behind a lorry for slipstream to help with the fuel usage! But i do feel people do look at me thinking I'm strange! lol
Admit it, like most drivers you like to be looked at. !!!
With the sliding door, when its locked open, just pull the outside handle forward to close it. 👍
When you get a Berlingo, oldish one, the tide of your life has changed for the better. I miss mine muchly.
Hi Ian, I’ve got some left over sound deadening pads from a previous van conversion - you’re welcome to have them. Just peel off the back and stick on.
Cheers. ian@hubnut.org
Loving the Berlingo. Those Pug HDis are good uns.
Glad to hear the Berlingo is running well.
The back door is released with the outer handle, pulling it forward. Put your thumb on the edge of the door, squeeze, release the edge - Bob's family somehow.
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Thank you for the Berlingo update video. Good to hear things go well. The Welsh roads from the cockpit are just fantastic, the 'HubNut Oval'. Hope you get round to the further improvements, perhaps there is a local tyre shop you can partner with to refresh the Berlingo's shoes. Curious too to learn if there is a name in the works for this fleet member.
As for Rattle I had a 206 and the Rattle was coming from the boot latch they wear away plastic, I wrapper few layers of electric tape round worth a try