The Complexity of Count Dooku
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Dooku is a good example of you either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain
For Dooku it's. "You either die an Antihero or live long enough to see yourself become the Antivillan."
@@TheMrPeteChannel That may be more accurate
@@TheMrPeteChannel nah not an anti villian, he just became a villian
Dooku is honestly my favourite out of all of sidious’s apprentice. He has the most realistic portrayal of a Jedi and Sith Lord I’ve ever seen.
Never a true Sith. He followed Palpatine because the flaws of the Jedi council.
@@rubenreyes3187 yep and that led him to going down the dark path. I always found it interesting how he never used his other alias Darth Tyranos even though it is his official title.
Kinda like Darth Revan yeah
@@rubenreyes3187 truth. Dooku wanted to remove the corruption in the senate and jedi.
Hugh Laurey for Doctor who
Dooku - A Star Wars Story. Make it happen.
Nicholas Cage could play him. He'd be perfect.
@@nicksears3780 Ohhhh what a great choice!! I never thought of him before, but what a great casting choice 😗
It's about time the Count got his due as a character. Maul and Vader often get more love from fans, but Dooku/Tyranus is far more complex than either of them and far more pivotal. Dooku was trained by both Yoda and Sidious, he was friends with Yaddle and Mace Windu, he trained Qui Gon Jinn, Grievous, and Ventress. He hired Jango Fett, started the Clone Army and the Confederacy, while keeping it under wraps from the Jedi.
He also accidentally gave rise to darth maul by training savage oppress. More then likely maul would have died in that junk planet if his brother hadintstart start looking for him. Dooku set in motion a chain of events so huge in sw that most don't realize or give him credit for. Very good story in sw.
In the Gennedy Tartakofsky shorts Grievous is a killing machine. It's his best portrayal. But when shown training with Dooku, Dooku is so smooth he makes Grievous look like a child.
He also started the plans for the death star.
@@eklecticskeptic a shame how dookus best feat of strength is scaling to grievous. Then again poetic for the sith whose Darth title had never been revealed till near the end of the war and his own life.
@@drpatrickmorbius5966 Dookus best feat is being able to hold his own against Yoda and not be easily beaten by him.
Count Dooku is just about the best SW has to offer.. so many layers to the man, a man I can see myself in (doing bad in the hope of it doing good), disenchanted with unfair politics, an old world regality, a strict moral code.. I love the guy and Chris Lee was the perfect real word enbodiment of Darth Tyranus
He started off this way, and you could say this was his character, but he got corrupted by the darkside as anyone that starts dabbling in it does.
The war he helped engineer and led, killed Billions.
He started off a good man, went down a dark path with good intention, but ultimately was consumed by it
I thoroughly enjoyed the Tales of the Jedi short series. Showed intriguing aspects of Dooku and Ahsoka.
Dooko was definitely the best part of the show. Especially episode 2 with young Qui Gon. I thought that was deep.
Dooku had a lot of potential. He was one of the most talented lightsaber users of the Jedi, and had a mastery of dark side powers second only to Palpatine, yet never once let it take control of him. He had perfectly reasonable and acceptable reasons for leaving and going against the Jedi. He was entirely right about the Jedi. His mistake was believing and trusting Palpatine.
Sad indeed, Palpatine did him dirty In ep 3 . Dooku is so underated ,if only could really see throw Palpatin lies . Even now i think of what if stories , if him and Anakin worked together to take out Palpatin , or him and Obi Wan and how the state of the republic would have been , will it still be an Empire but under a different rule ? if say him and Anakin would have taken over the sith and made changes , or him with Obi Wan etc
@@Kobalt_Rax_the_one one I think about is if Obi wan joined him on Geonosis
I want more from Dooku as a jedi
Makes you wonder what would've happened if the Count didn't fall to Dark Side.
I feel that had Qui-Gon not been murdered and not been the final straw for Dooku's issues with the Order, I feel like he would have finished Obi-Wan's apprenticeship and had a role in the training of Anakin under Qui-Gon.
@@ericschuller908 more interestingly, as Plauguis had speculated, yoda resigning and forfeiting the role of grandmaster to dooku? Dookus unorthodoxy and clarity could have led the order in a new, more force attune way in line with his and qui gons ideology.
@@drpatrickmorbius5966, I agree. But I believe that Dooku's more radical approach would require Qui-Gon to balance him out. Qui-Gon was a Maverick just like his master, but he was also far more restrained in exercising his power in the force than Dooku.
@@ericschuller908 absolutely an order led by dooku with qui-gon and obi wan on the council would have certainly been a drastically different one to the one we ended up with.
@@drpatrickmorbius5966, one that would have been far more proactive. I also believe that Dooku would have laid waste to slavers who refused to get with the program and stop trading sentient beings as property.
I enjoyed the Dooku episodes the most!! Especially the last one
Episode 2 was my absolute fave of the bunch, he relates so much to anakin so much it was very cool to see.
i love dooku, this video does a great job explaining his character and why it makes him so compelling
do you think dooku could have trained anakin along with qui gon to make him more powerful
I still have to wonder when he made the jump from betraying his friends and former comrades to creating two armies, one to cause chaos and havoc across the galaxy and another to wipe out every Jedi and be used as a force of subjugation and possibly brutality. Then again, the fact he kept being allies with a guy partially responsible for the death of his Padawan not to mention the fact he actually paid the Pyke Syndicate to murder his best friend to gain control of the cloning project.
I can see Count Dooku being a lot like Megatron of the IDW 2005 Continuity. Both fought back against a government full of corruption, but both took a damn dark path. Though one difference would be how the Cybertronian Senate quickly enacted diabolical schemes to stop the Decepticons while the Republic Senate went a one year debate over whether to raise an army or not. Though it probably should be recognized that both Dooku and Megatron viewed becoming emperors to save the galaxy.
I have to question though if Dooku would be as bad as Megatron. Megatron became a tyrant who created a Decepticon Empire committing genocide against organics. While Dooku was anti-alien in Legends, we don’t get hints of this in Canon. I can see Dooku forcing all Jedi to convert and making planets renounce democracy and seeing it only as a tool of corruption. But beyond that, I would imagine those would be his only similarities with Palpatine. Maybe.
Eh....
Count Dooku has been one of my favourite characters in Star Wars since I was a small boy, probably the character I resonated with the most. I am simply very glad that the character is growing in popularity due to this excellent new mini series.
I would love to see a Dooku “what if” where he takes down Sidious after Qui Gon’s death.
I’d really like a mini series about Dooku, if that’s possible. He’s such an underrated character.
The tales of the jedi actually made me kind of like dooku. One thing that came to my mind was what if dooku rushed to save qui gon as their last conversation is about him not being able to protect him. I wonder if a jedi dooku at this time would have beaten maul on naboo
I think that hypothetically if it was Dooku and Qui Gon vs Darth Maul, Maul would more than likely get his ass kicked, or cut off by a lightsaber lol. Dooku's lightsaber and the form he uses with it is very difficult to defend against 1 v 1 let alone 2 v 1. Maul vs Dooku alone 1 v 1 would be a good match up for sure, which could be argued to be able to go either way.
Okay here me out you made a really good point when you said “im really sad that anakin and doku never had an extended conversation” what if palpatine made it that way because if they did mabye anaikin would of never sided with palpatine but doku
I've been watching your videos for a few months and you helped cement my love for Dooku
Bit by bit Dooku has been becoming my favourite star wars character
Dooku, mace, and anakin hold a special place in my heart any more deeper looks at them I always welcome!
I've always thought that when Dooku says that he needs Quaigon Jin he meant it as if Quaigon could help him escape from the dark side.
I have always felt, like with Sidious and Maul, QuiGon was the only being in the universe besides Yoda whom Dooku loved purely, and he was devastated and wounded like when Sidious lost Maul to a Padawan, it was a blow they learned to live with
Truly! You pour into your pupil and Apprentice who you treat like a Son. 🙏🙏🙏
Maybe not maul we could see in tales of the jedi that he was furious when he found out that maul killed Qui Gon. And Windu as a friend
@@threeismynickname980 Maul was Sidious Pride and Joy, while Vader was his failure.
Maul surpassed Vader when he took over the Underworld and the 10k Systems with Mandalore.... Despite how he continued to test Maul, he was Truly the only apprentice Sidious spent time with and actually trained. Same as Anakin did with Ahsoka, probing Anakin was Right
@@threeismynickname980 despite what people would like to believe, Sidious truly loved Maul.... He passed every test Sidious threw at him
I don't think Sidious gave a damn about Maul, or Tyranus...or anyone really
Dooku, however I agree. Losing Jinn wounded him deeply
Can you please do a video on what happened to Luke’s green lightsaber after he became a force ghost
I very much feel for Count Dooku, and Anakin Skywalker. I feel just like them. It's just that I'm not as tough, or skilled, or willful, as these two.
After seeing "Tales", episode 3 will never be the same...
Hugh Laurey for Doctor who
Dooku is a great character; I really like him. He was driven by principle and ideology, not just the dark side.
Great videos they are all high quality and not just pushed out without effort or substance. thanks for that!
This was nothing short of brilliant. Thank you.
Dooku: *"I'm a goddamn Onion, Mace, you should know that..."*
Dooku is the Sinestro of Star Wars. He wasn't wrong for his opinions he just went too far. It would've been better if he simply became a gray jedi and joined the senate.
Awesome video. Tales of the Jedi really opened my eyes to Dooku’s motivations and changed my perspective on him entirely. Just goes to show that good and evil has lots of shades.
Amazing!
The thing that perplexes me on this series, is if Filoni is tying up loose ends from his Clone Wars works, setting up future storylines or both?? .... Time shall tell much like it usually does 😃.
Top notch little series all around ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
If dooku became grand master. The galaxy would have changed
Dooku is my favorite dark side character, especially because of his many layers. He cared about those around him such as Ventress so much so that he resented the idea of killing her under Sidious’s orders. Great great video!!!
Keep up the good work I love this can't for another jedi analysis
excellent use of genuflect! such an underappreciated word.
Man, what a great breakdown of the character. I recently listened to the Dooku: Jedi Lost audio book which really blew the character open for me. TOJ just put the bow on Dooku in my eyes. But this breakdown helped really organize what I already noticed. Thanks for the insight.
This might be your best video
Literally was watching a clip about Dooku when this uploaded
In Legends Dooku was often said to have been second to only Yoda in The Jedi Order in terms of force powers, mastery, knowledge, and lightsaber skills even by TPM Circa and a while after it placing him above high tiers of the times like Mace, Yaddle, And Plo Koon so yeah. And Plagueis saw Dooku around TPM Circa while Dooku was still a Jedi as a insurance apprentice if something happened to Sidious like if Sids got placed in a Jedi holding force offed holding cell that is high profiled, got crippled up very badly, or died while he only saw Maul even before his defeat as only worthy of being a useful yet disposable assassin yeah.
Dooku is such an amazing character. So glad his story has been expanded 🌟
Well as much as I’m not happy how they canonized the overreaching theories of Sidious being afraid of Qui-Gon Jinn or at least he saw Qui-Gon as a legitimate threat to his plans. This episode did so in a way that fits the storytelling. Sidious plans never would have come true unless Qui-Gon was dead he needed a reason for Dooku to fully fall to the dark side and completely turn against the Jedi the death of Dooku’s former apprentice from the council’s dismissiveness, he knew of Qui-Gon’s wariness of galactic politics and if you stop to think about it you can see Sidious/Senator Palpatine is the one who stands to gain the most from the Blockade and Senate No Confidence, and more importantly being aware of the chosen one Qui-Gon stood in Sidious’ way to corrupt Anakin in the future. I could be wrong and maybe Qui-Gon’s death was just an accident but given the level and depth Sidious has planned this enough that he swayed Dooku to his side even when Dooku was still a part of the Jedi its not too out of the realm of thought that he planned Qui-Gon’s death with intent.
Dooku/Tyranus has always been my favorite "sith". Even though it becomes evident that he never truly was a sith.
Dooku is never blind to the truth
Tales of the Jedi was simple, efficient yet very moving, the directing said it all with elegance!
The subtle expressions on his animated face paired with the music were very well crafted.
One thought that occured to me: What if telling Obi Wan about the Sith was a sort of Last Straw Test. If Obi Wan had listened and acted in what Dooku would have seen as a true Jedi response, Dooku would, perhaps have embraced Obi Wan, enabling Dooku to act against Sidious. Being that Obi Wan expressed what, to Dooku, must have seemed a sort of blind confidence in the infallibility of the Jedi, put paid to any thought that might have been lingering as to the Jedi being salvageable, and cemented his view that the Jedi were, in fact, irredeemable.
FANTASTIC EXPLANATION!!!!!!!👍😃
I was always curious about this
I want more episodes of Count Dooku
Dooku has become one of my favorite characters after tales of a Jedi.
Complex character indeed
I want to see a character breakdown of Ahsoka now that we have her episodes in Tales of the Jedi.
Hey Stupendous big fan and yes I do love these character breakdowns and history analysis. If I could make a suggestion for another character breakdown could we do one for the entirety of Darth Malgus, Darth Bane, or Lord Kaan and the brotherhood of Darkness please and thank you, keep doing what you do my friend, and may the force be with you always.
I never bought into Dooku as Sidious's apprentice. I think you nailed it "Sidious out played Dooku" I suspect Dooku was attempting what Mace Windu achieved with Vaapad
Loved this and the Tales of the Jedi. I really loved seeing the evolution of Dooku and how torn he was, emotionally, over the Jedi Council and Yoda. It reveals a diminished Jedi Council/Order that I think adds to the story. It is not a perfectly good organization, but one with flaws that needs to be addressed and only through their arrogance (Dooku's words) did they not see it.
The addition of Yoda not seeing the dark side so close is interesting. I love his analogy. This is the good stuff of Star Wars...love love love love
dooku is my favorite character, followed by Luke, and Revan
best star wars character, i think thats why the honor was given to the greatest actor of all time
Dooku and Anakin are two characters that I have always related to in my real life the most, especially now more than ever.
Dooku was a better Jedi than the entire council
I can hear ya flippin' pages; at first I thought it was a flyswatter but at the end I caught a papery sound lol. As for Dookus' episodes, my ONLY complaint is they were a bit TOO short, though what to flesh them out with, I donno. Anyways, the deep character dives are really cool man.
4:50 I feel like if Dooku managed to get Anakin into a situation where they started talking philosophies for an extended period of time, that would be the timeline where Star Wars goes perfectly.
one of the things I like is that Dooku is never given the role as a rich person. Dooku is one of the richest people in the galaxy, but to the viewer, he never put in that light. His wealth is always in the background as if it were in the foreground, many would no longer see him for his character, but for his riches, and no longer worthy of any positive feeling.
Palpatine Apprentice Checklist:
1. Powerful force wielder
2. Emotional Attachment to others
3. Strong sense of justice
4. Ignored by the Council
5. Screwed over by Mace Windu & the Council
6. Have them kill small beings too show loyalty
7. Likes cutting off hands
😂
Could you do a video on Cal Kestus? I’d love to learn more about his story beyond what we learn in Fallen Order.
Rest in peace Sir Christopher Lee
another thing worth note is that the most frequent combatants Dooku faces during the Clone Wars really all have a direct tie to him. Yoda his master, Obi-Wan his grandson in a sense, and Anakin continuing that line. I would almost say that Dooku's dislike for Skywalker comes from the fact that the two men are very much similar. both men were likely the most powerful Jedi students of their time and as young knights they were likely always far more powerful then all the other knights and even a sizable amount of masters. Both men are rather short tempered and don't take the Jedi code very seriously at all. often turning their backs on it entirely. For Dooku, Anakin represents who Dooku once was when he was young. In a lot of ways mirroring Vader's confrontation with Luke. Even though Dooku left the Jedi, he could never escape his past. Some things I wish Dave Filoni would bring into the new continuity from Legends was how Dooku at multiple times attempted to convince Palpatine to allow them to convert Obi-Wan to their cause, Yoda making the attempt to bring Dooku back to the Jedi, and lastly, Dooku's overall feelings of guilt and acceptance that it's too late for him to return to the Jedi. "It's such a quiet thing to fall. But far more terrible is to admit it." -Darth Traya.
I've always considered Dooku a very under appreciated and somewhat tragic villain. As well as a true testament to how cold and evil Palpatine really is. All three of Palpatine's apprentices, all of them had their lives taken from them. Dooku was lucky in that he had at least lived for 70 years as a Jedi and a highly respected one at that. However, much like Darth Vader, all the good Dooku accomplished throughout his life would be negated by his years as the face of the Confederacy of Independent Systems. Remembered for all time as a traitor, tyrant, and war criminal. A fact that Palpatine had made sure to cement after his ascension to Emperor Pinning the blame for all the Clone Wars squarely on Dooku and the Jedi. All his work of hammering out the corruption within the Galactic Republic being for naught as Palpatine's only intention for him was to be a place holder for his chosen apprentice Anakin Skywalker. and while the Jedi's reputation would be salvaged, Dooku's would not.
Dooku is legend tier
also dooku should have been battlemaster instead of cin dralig
I can definitely see that. Dooku would’ve prepared students for both battlefield engagements and one-on-one duels
@@darylsdesigns6679 yes i know he would
There is one thing I noticed in the years since the prequels came out is that the prequel trilogy becomes vey different movies if you consider the Jedi heroes that fail to live up to their ideals instead of ideal heroes failing. Count Doku examplifies this since he was one of the few that saw the flaws the Jedi had acquired yet by trying to fix this he became even more corrupt. The saddest thing is that in the original trillogy he was such an underdeveloped character, yet by understanding him they become much better movies.
Doku has always been one of my favorite characters plus with the best Sith name Darth Tyrannous fuck yea
Dooku should have his own series
Count Dooku is my favorite Jedi and Sith but having Qui-Gon there is that was perfect we got Count Dooku and Qui-Gon Jinn
The thumbnail looks like nick Wright now and even more after a few years
I like Dooki's story annhd representation. I think his character was exactly that: complex. He was playing a super wild card all along
Dooku is easily one of the most interesting characters in all of Star Wars. My other favorites that rank alongside him are Qui-Gon Jinn, Luke Skywalker, Cade Skywalker, and Darth Revan. Dooku's natural charisma was set as a precedent by his portrayal by the late Sir Christopher Lee, who is one of the most fascinating and captivating actors in the last hundred years. A great deal of Dooku's noble lineage, his sword style, and even his native dignity were inspired by Lee's life. Suffice it to say that it can be argued that Lee was the reason Dooku is the character we grew to be entranced by.
Tales of The Jedi.. Is excellent !!!! I always felt that there was a lot more to Dooku's story... His, was a tragic one.
Dooku's a Dark Jedi...
I feel like every non live action series is absolutely beautiful and I liked the tales of the jedi very much
Could you do a video on the Yuuzhan Vong. I am really interested in a video on the one Jacen Solo beat who could touch the force and was the only one who could do it since the other Yuuzhan Vong lost their connection. I remember the one Jacen beat could touch it again (the force) through his genetic mutations he went through but nobody knew he actually could do it and that was what gave him control of the Yuuzhan Vong from behind the shadows.
...NNNNNNOOOOOOO
Dooku and Anakin do seem a lot alike in their aspirations to make the galaxy a better place, not for the politicians, but for the people, simply put, both Dooku and Anakin choose to follow what's right over the law. Sadly those like Dooku and Anakin can be either ostracized or manipulated.
The saddest thing pf all of this? That Sir CRISTOPHER LEE will never be able to see how his character grew
What about when dooku raised his saber and was going to kill obi wan after he bested him on geonosis, but then Anakin came to defend him? He could have sparred him since obi wan was defeated.
Wow after watching tales of a Jedi I actually
really like dooku as a character now. Crazy anakin killed him didn’t even know he was qui gons master makes it even darker
7:33 Darth Vectivus: "Meh."
He went out of his way not to kill jedi. Then proceeds to kill hundreds lol...?
These tales need to be a lot longer tho
They are generally going on a path of depicting the Jedi as woefully corrupt and heartless and the Sith as people who had limited options in combatting that level of corrupt.
Dooku and Anakin are the only 2 Jedi we know of in Canon and live media to leave the order to become Sith. Why them? What was similar or different in them that made them prime candidates to be corrupted? Was it their ties to their families? Or something else. A video on that would be cool.
I love this. Why did they make him so gosh darn evil in the clone wars!?
Because the original had dooku filmed as a bad person so they kinda had to work around that
@@Isabellaaaaaaaaaaa But they could have at least TRIED to make him 3 dimensional.
Dooku was playing a part
@@Erebdai OOOOOHHHH! That's right! It all makes sense now!
Always was intrigued by Luke and dooku as a kid always saw him as good in the show and movies even though I knew did terrible things and was a villain it felt he was good at heart this was before I knew he was a Jedi before but then everything clicked why he joined the separatists why he did the terrible things
I thought Dooku in Tales of the Jedi was excellent. It was wonderful getting more of the story of his fall to the dark side and seeing why he made that decision. Sure, The Clone Wars explores Dooku as a Sith, but not the conditions that lead him to become a Sith. I feel like this insight into his backstory is something that has been sorely missing until now.
I've always considered Count Dooku more as a Dark Jedi Master rather than a Sith. Darth Tyrannus was forged during the Clone Wars. The Force just is. There truly is no Light Side or Dark Side. It's how you use it and your intent. I used to shit on Dooku, but I'm really glad that they're displaying his Complexity. He was also right more or less about his Grand Plan for the Galaxy.
I don't even consider him a Dark Jedi. He's a Grey Jedi who has occasional slips into the dark he manages to overcome and control. He's _right_ that his apprentice would have sided with him were he in Obi-Wan's place in Episode 2. If Obi-Wan had listened to him, it would have worked out. If Qui-Gon had been there, it would have worked out. Heck, if he could have gotten Anakin and himself stranded in a survival situation on a backwater planet for a month, it would have worked out. Count Dooku has tons of leader-charisma, but absolutely no interpersonal charisma, and the one guy who understood him was dead. That's really the entire reason he failed.
Do more in-depth character break downs like this plz
Count dooku has many parallels with Confederate general Robert E. Lee, which I think were cool and intentional
I don't think that means what u think it means.
-Inigo Montoya
Dooku Jedi Lost is a multi-cast audio drama, not a novel. Still fantastic and worth a listen