How Count Dooku Originally thought the Clone Wars would End
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I love what you said about the sand.
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I'm very glad Lee convinced Lucas not to have Dooku beg for his life. It would indeed have been out of character for someone like Dooku to beg.
True, he would never be so undignified.
A nice touch would have been at the last second he gives a ironic smile, accepting that he had been played, but the audience might have misconstrued it as he was in on his own death.
Maybe just mutter "clever" as the blades were swung.
One of a few things the novelization didn’t do well.
No, I think Christopher Lee made the right acting choice. That one baffled and shocked look said everything, and a one-liner would have undermined that
Love the look on Dookus face when Anakin cuts his hands off. What the hell just happened? Love that film.
@@CaptainSpalding72 yes the look of complete shock and disbelief. The moment he realizes he's actually been beaten.
"When did Dooku the Wise abandon reason for madness?"
-Jedi Master Gandalf
"Your lightsabers are broken"
"You Shall Not Pass!" -Jedi Master Gandalf (Battle Of The Pass, Clone Wars)
“Gandalf!” - Frodo Skywalker, just after a Rancor dragged Gandalf away
@@ErrorNumber404 LLOL rancor ahhaha good one that had me laughing.
@@tHeWasTeDYouTh thanks
What if palpatine heard Dooku's plan and was like "well shit I was going to kill you but that sounds awesome"
Considering Palpatine was planning on doing something similar with dark jedi anyway if Dooku told him of this stuff he probably would have gone out of his way to keep Dooku alive since he wanted the same shit and was fine with not being in charge
@@Pink_Noodle but wouldn't that lack of desire have proven to Sidious that Dooku wasn't worthy of being his apprentice? Aren't desire to rule and drive to kill one's master out of hatred prerequisites to being a sith?
@@floricel_112 yes but sideous kept vader around and went through great lengths to ensure that vader could never take power from him. I think its plausible
@@ben.patrick But because Vader wants to kill Sidious, he accumulates more and more power to further that end, in turn becoming more useful. If Dooku is fine with things as they are, then he will eventually cease to crave power, and become less useful.
Vader never lost drive to succeed Sidious. Dooku was okay with being second in command until the untimely death of his master, and possibly ultimately taking an king under his wing. Sidious could possibly read Anakin, having such a high midi count and raging drive to be better, as more useful qualities as the number two sith. Problem with Dooku is he was okay being number two but definitely wouldn’t want to be number 3. Also i assume Sidious thought he could just cut corners by making Vader second in line anyways since he was going to be the poster boy of the empire
I love how Sir Christopher Lee got that involved with his roles he would protect the character.
Consummate professional.
Also in Lord of the Rings. Sir Lee had actually been a Nazi Hunter in WW2, and had personal experience with what a man sounds like when stabbed in the back, so when Peter Jackson was trying to direct him for the scene in which Saruman (who Sir Lee played) is stabbed in the back, he ended up (one hopes politely) schooling Jackson in how it should actually sound. Absolute pro, who knew his stuff.
@@rollingthunder1043 that explains why he was so outraged it was cut
Sometimes I think actors should do that more
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Dooku's idea of the empire was amazing and would definitely been more threatening and powerful than what we got. Also, we'd have a sand free Galaxy. Glory to the Empire!
Anakin hated the sand not dooku
Technically, not all the force users were hated. Anakin is the main example of this. He was advertised as the main hero of the republic during the clone wars. And about Anakin being annoyed with only the role of General, he wouldn't. Anakin dreamt of being a Jedi master, but being with the sith, his dream would be a lot bigger especially since he's leading, oh I don't know, AN ENTIRE FREAKING ARMY OF SITH!
I think he might give Dooku a chance, I don't know why, I just think Vader would let the count live and would kill Palpa-palpa-palpatine.
They have emotions
Glory to the Empire!! Death to all those damn dirty Aliens. Escpecially those pale skinned Umbarans.
Dooku has a better understanding of what the empire should’ve looked like for sure
It would never work, the Sith would be far too busy betraying each other to ever get anything done. An establishment of an order that used both the light and dark sides of the force would be the only way for it to work, but the Siths would never consider using the light side of the force because they’re just as dogmatic as the Jedi.
@@TheKevtherev11 Eh yeah, except that every great sith empire before Sidious' empire was in form longer, held more power, and had a more stable society than SIdious' empire.
@@TheKevtherev11 Dude look at vitiates empire. He managed to keep the sith in line for centuries and even instituted non force sensitive authority figures despite keeping a mostly hands off approach on the situation. Most sith empires last as long as the leading figure can go unchallenged and use their strength to keep the other siths in line. The new sith empire would have anakin, sidious and dooku as its heads making it extremely hard for anyone to step up against these powerhouses and seeing how each of this individuals had different interest they would have little need to face off against each other.
@@frking100 That's what I thought too dude. Like that video (which was a while ago) on the comic about sidious secretly creating the half-machine × half-force-sensitive abominations, unbeknownst to Vader, then sending Vader there to inspect them, Vader doesn't like them and I think the feeling was mutual, then they fight and as they're fighting Vader looks up to a catwalk and sidious is watching them. Then long story short, turns out sidious planned the whole thing to test them against Vader and even potentially replace him, which if I'm not wrong he tried on a few occasions.
But yeah, so maybe the reason sidious wasn't interested in an army of Sith like Dooku is because he was aware of the rule of 2 and what he did to his master, and so was probably constantly worried about meeting the same fate.
@alvi syahri Well you would think that would work, but in real time war, you cannot hope to best a nation that has a larger industrial base than you have. Even if your quality is better, their quantity will overwhelm you when it is of sufficient level. That is how the US won every war it has participated in since WOI, by simply overwhelming their enemies. The only time they outright failed was Vietnam and Iraq in the civil/guerilla war phase of those wars.
so the fact that vitiate and Revan managed to keep their empires together against a far larger state, is more evidence that they were simply better emperors. Sidious lost to a group that didnt even have afull sized fleet lol
In Star Wars, Christopher Lee tries to create an empire ruled by Men, but in Lord of the Rings, he tries to destroy the kingdoms of Men.
Its a beautiful arc
“It’s like poetry, it’s rhymes”
"Ironic" a wise man said
Nah hes the same fucking character in both movies. Sarumon wanted the ring for himself and planned to destroy Sauron
If you can't beat em, join em
this lowkey makes me think that if Palpatine had spared Dooku, the empire might have actually lasted for longer than 20 years lmao.
I mean yes and no the no being Dookus purpose was to indirectly train Anakin in lightsaber dueling dark side wise then lose their final duel to push Anakin further to the darkside by executing him like this was a huge moment for Anakins dark side progression of course Dooku didn't know this but that was his purpose
Yeah, with the dude who looked like he had two years before he died with natural causes, sure... 😂
Tbh I would've done it alone. Palpatine was a master schemer, a talent every sith is good at, but if there is more than one schemer it's gonna be an L eventually.. Ffs, rule of one is the only way
The empire wouldn’t last that long.
In the past before the rule of two was established the sith were constantly plagued by in fighting. That's why the rule of two was founded in the first place, so the empire might not have still lasted that long. In fighting in star wars lore also cost the sith a few chances at finally destroying the republic and the Jedi when they were about to.
4:46
Dooku: Creates a whirlwind of sand
Anakin: *SAND*
That is why anakin killed Dooku
@@totalorganfailuregaming3252 Because he was too dangerous to be kept alive?
@@gamebawesome no because dooku threw sand at him, and anakin doesn't like sand because its course, rough, irritating and it get everywhere.
where's that scene from tho? l don't think l saw it in clone wars
@@tomvhs The scene was from the "Star Wars: The Clone Wars" 2008 C.G.I. movie, which preceded the television series of the same name.
1000 years of hiding and planning for the revenge of the sith. Only to rule 20 years
That’s sad...
F for the empire
23 years to be exact.
@@goodputin4324 to be exact
vigin empire vs chad republic
The genius of Palpatine/Sidious's plan was that no matter _which_ side "won" the Clone Wars, he would be running things.
Nah, the CIS was pretty much a loose coalition of merchants, rouge planets, misfits, and mercenaries that banded together to free themselves from the "tyranny" of the republic (so the rich and powerful can do whatever the hell they want to those that can't stop them). He wouldn't have near as much control of the federation as he would as "supreme chancellor" turned emperor of the republic.
@@aarontoles5988 You are quite correct that the CIS was a loose coalition of disparate groups. Their _military_ wasn't.
@@nickwilliams8302 The Techno Union, Commerce Guild, Trade Federation and others built droids for the CIS, but they had their own militaries, and the officers had fidelity with their respective homeland/corporations. Soon as the war was over, the plan was likely that they decommission the CIS army and use their own as they please. The whole point of the separatist movement was anger that the Republic was so centralized, telling distant star systems what to do and not do, including how to use their fleets whether it's keeping them from engaging in conflicts they wish, or forcing them in conflicts having nothing to do with them.
"He was fighting for control of a galaxy that he already had control over."
@@mikebliss3153 No, he didn't have control. He needed the war to get that.
Just imagine how different would the story go if Dooku went "The fuck, Master?" when Palpatine told Anakin to kill him
Sidious would snap his neck, throw the Jedi through the bridge window, crash the ship and act like he just barely survived and they sacrificed themselves to save him.
@@aarontoles5988 Yeah, that sounds quite plausible
Edit: spelling mistake
@@aarontoles5988 Yoda would be freaking the fuck out lmao
@@aarontoles5988 what about Anakin?
The fuck master lol omg lol
Count Dooku is a very unappreciated character, I'd love to read a novelization that details more about his life/thoughts/ and vision for a Sith Empire as well as how it contrasts to the actual one.
Read Legacy of the Jedi, Dark Rendezvous, and Darth Plageuis. They give a lot of insight to him, his childhood and his interactions with Darth Plageuis and Siddious in their respective civilian guises, among other things.
@@josephrousell2818 And uhh you’re posting this 3 days ago in June of 2022. So there’s now also ‘Dooku: Jedi Lost’ also.
Honestly, I’d play a video game about Dooku’s empire
we need a dooku series on disney+. But it would probably be boring and have like 2 fights like the recent series we have been getting
@@skeleton819 yep.
Dooku in his mind: Anakin beat me? Not an issue! This is all part of the plan and Sidious will bail me ou-
Sidious: Kill him.
Dooku in his mind: Well goddamn! I've been speckledorfed!
That's not even a word and I agree with you
ive been bamboozled¡
@@juanvalencia6538
Sidious: Go bamboozle
Dooku: I'm down!
*After Dooku is killed.*
Sidious: You got bamboozled look at you!
"Dooku thought blankly, 'kill me?'
He and Skywalker paused for one single, final instant, blades locked together, staring at each other past a sizzling cross of scarlet against blue, and in that instant Dooku found himself wondering in bewildered astonishment if Sidious had suddenly lost his mind. Didn't he understand the advice he'd just given?
Whose side was he on, anyway?
And through the cross of their blades he saw in Skywalker's eyes the promise of hell, and he felt a sickening presentiment that he already knew the answer to that question.
Treachery is the way of the Sith."
@@GeneralGrievous-1138 really nice. Did you write it yourself?
Didn't know Count Dooku was a KOTOR fan, his death now brings me great sadness.
He truly was a man of class
Order 66
F is the 6th letter of the alphabet
66=ff
ff= friendly fire
Oh, never thought of it this way
65?
Snyper 17 guess what? You didn’t just think of that you stole it from someone I don’t remember who but you stole it so.....
@@generalgrievous2496 he never said he thought of it. Geez dude get a life.
Snyper 17 or: Press F to pay respects (to the Jedi order)
This makes me want a Star Wars version of "What If...?" so badly, imagine how awesome this could be to see in an animated format
My brother said that it wouldn’t work because Star Wars doesn’t have an Uatu-like character for a framing device.
@@Trainlover1995 It may not need someone like the Watcher, it could just be framed as an anthology like Star Wars Visions, though not necessarily as an anime
What if… Dooku said “this was not part of the plan”?
I used to want that too, but then I started to think about how if the show was any good, I'd constantly be thinking "why couldn't the sequel trilogy be this good?" Or maybe "why didn't they use this story arc for it?". It'd probably piss me off everytime I saw it lmao
Palpatine: Kill him, kill him now... Do it
Dooku: We've tricked, backstabbed and quite possibly bamboozled
It's a shame that they never really had a comic going through the life, thoughts and feelings of Count Dooku. Now that's a comic series I would buy!
Well, there´s Jedi Lost.
@@scheids4444 Some good things in there but imo some of it ruined his legacy and his character for me
Hell yes!
I'd recommend the novel "Legacy of the Jedi" by Jude Watson. It is Legends, so unfortunately no longer canon (thanks again Disney), but it is Dooku-centric for the first half of the novel, and he remains a prominent character afterwards. Really got me to fall in love with Dooku as a character.
@@willtiffany5409 Disney didn't kill the old EU... FACT. Lucasfilm did it long before the sale in 2012. Fact.
Dooku is realy my favorite Sith, maybe not the strongest but his character is awesome also his story, and Christopher Lee is a legend.
He is a very strong Sith Lord. He is probably equal to Darth Vader at his peak.
koekiebad56 He enters on my list of favorites, because it shows how the darkside is not strictly ''evil''.
Is just another point of view on how to operate things.
@@TrioPack2222 nope, darth vader would have defeated him even easily-er than in revenge of the sith
@@tlaloc6885 I believe Dooku lost to Anakin in Revenge of the Sith because Palpatine instructed him to hold back. In addition, Anakin tapped into the dark side and threw Dooku off balance. In any other fights in the Clone Wars Dooku manages to defeat Anakin and Obi Wan simultaneously. If I were to rank Palpatine's apprentices, it would be Vader >= Dooku > Maul.
@@tlaloc6885 vader could never tap into anakins true potential due to the physical damage he took. If Anakin was to turn dark and not disfigured he would of become the most powerful character in histroy
Dooku and Maul have always been my favorite sith. And both of them ended up being tragic characters and not truly evil
Dooku has committed terrorist attacks, slavery, killed countless innocent people, and blackmailed
Maul slaughtered innocent people when he came back
😐
@@ainsleyharriot6060 lose the attitude :P yes they did all those things. Did I or anyone say they were good guys? I said they were tragic. They are more nuanced than evil for evils sake. Which is in contrast to palpatine who was always more of evil being for the sake of being evil. Like a devil figure.
Also the very fact that they are fantasy characters in a fantasy world allows for people such as myself to appreciate them from all aspects. If Maul and Dooku were real then yeah no respect no love. Nothing but hate and the desire to see them dead.
But this is a fantasy setting. And good writers have put time and effort into crafting villians that arent evil through and through. Such as these two
Bruh didn’t he say in the video that Dooku wanted a world where the aliens were stripped of everything? Doesn’t sound good to me 😂
@@PatrickTCAPIreland Human supremacist/master species believer doesn’t sound like a tragic character, but he is kinda based for that
I mean Dooku wasn’t that far off, the inquisitors were like a small piece of what he envisioned. But of course he didn’t expect: “There can only be two. And you are no longer my apprentice!”
_Dooku's Alternative_
*Supreme Chancellor:* [Anakin cuts off Dooku's hands ending the battle. Anakin catches Dooku's lightsabre and ignites it and puts both lightsabres to his neck] Good, Anakin, good. Kill him.
[Dooku looks at Palpatine in shock]
*Supreme Chancellor:* Kill him now.
*Count Dooku:* [speaking quickly] Palpatine is Darth Siddious, he wants to turn you to the dark side, I'm his Apprentice. He set this whole thing up.
*Anakin Skywalker:* What?
*Supreme Chancellor:* Dew it!
See how dangerous he is, his lies could tear the Republic apart.
[Anakin hesitates]
*Count Dooku:* Wake up Kenobi, I can't do anything [displays his stumps], leave Siddious restrained in his chair for the time being [Anakin looks confuse at the mention of Siddious], …Palpatine [Anakin realises who he meant].
If Palpatine breaks free you'll know he's a Sith Lord. Secure all the lightsabers - Kenobi's, so he can't summon one.… [Tired] And slap him awake.
Oh I need a medical droid.
*Supreme Chancellor:* We have to get off this ship, he's trying to trick you into staying put. I told you he was dangerous, even unarmed… he's _underhanded._
*Count Dooku:* There's a medikit over there, only place on this blasted droid ship that has one. Give Obi-Wan a stimulant to revive him, and a painkiller for me if you would be so kind.
[Anakin waves his robotic hand at Dooku]
Okay half a painkiller, cause this is double the hands.
[Obi-Wan groans and wakes up after Anakin injects him].
*Obi-Wan:* Did I miss something?
Why's the Chancellor still tied up up?
*Count Dooku:* General Kenobi, remember what I said on Geonosis, Palpatine is the Sith Lord I warned you about [Palpatines eyes go wide, he mutters "motherfucker" under his breathe]. Be on guard and draw your sabre [indicating Anakin's belt], he is more powerful than even Master Yoda.
*Chancellor Palpatine:* As I said, even his words are weapons.
*Count Dooku:* [to Kenobi's] He told Skywalker to kill me after I had surrendered and was helpless [holds up his stumps]. He wants Skywalker as his new Apprentice.
*Obi-Wan Kenobi:* Is that true Anakin?
*Anakin Skywalker:* It is my master, he told me to kill a unarmed prisoner.
[Obi-Wan's eyes go wide in realisation…Anakin's jaw drops as it finally penetrates his thick head that he's been played all this time].
*Count Dooku:* Finally… now can I please get some painkillers.
*Supreme Chancellor:* [Now speaking as Darth Siddious]
Dammit… so be it.
[Gestures and Dooku's sabre, now holstered on Anakin's belt, flies forward. But Anakin is able to grab it in time, both he and Kenobi activate their lightsabers. Darth Siddious's restraints fall away]
*Darth Siddious:* Treason is it? No, you all died, only I managed to survive. I suppose I'll just have to settle for Ventress as my new Apprentice.
Pity young Skywalker I had plans for you… such potential.
[Force lightning leaps from Siddious's fingers and sends Obi-Wan flying back to be knocked senseless against a bulkhead, yet again. Siddious then turns his attention to Anakin as he has moved forward, but Anakin is able to block the Force lightning with both blades crossed. Anakin is inching slightly forward, but also being affected by glancing shocks. It's a stalemate, will Anakin be able to press ahead to strike down Siddious? Will Darth Siddious be able to overcome Anakin Skywalker with his dark power of Force lightni blaster bolts hit him straight in the heart].
*Obi-Wan Kenobi:* [throws the gun away] Uh! So uncivilized.
Darth Siddious momentarily forgets Count Dooku is disarmed not immobilised as he continues to assail Anakin with force lightening, and Obi-Wan still struggles to come to his senses.
Dooku musters a final effort and pushes himself, with great effort, into a standing crouch near to Siddious. Count Dooku launches himself into a shoulder charge knocking Siddious off balance.
Though the surprisingly agile Siddious manages to step aside and avoid being bodily knocked over [just as the daring Count tumbles into a roll off to his right], Siddious' lightening is no longer striking Anakin, giving the young Jedi a chance to advance further, almost within striking distance; As the deadly dark lord of the Sith rounds on Anakin and once again assails him with all his dark power!
Dooku is practically incapacitated with pain, has no arms with which to use a weapon, yet he notices he is now closer to the where med-kit and the barely conscious Obi-Wan Kenobi now lay.
Anakin still struggles against Siddious' destructive onslaught.
Siddious intends to kill all in the this room in a fit of rage, especially Count Dooku. Will He succeed?
Hope you don't mind OP, I couldn't help but attempt to make an addition. :D
Excellent writing by the way. How do I use that bold text effect?
@@WhatIsSanity "*" on either side of the text, flush with it. But there must be a space before the next characters.
*Like this*. But see the full stop after…it means it won't work. And it won't work if there's a return in there, you have to end with a *, and then start again with a new*.
*Like this* no characters on the outside of the asterisk, if you want a full stop you add it before the asterisk
*Like this.* With a asterisk before the L and after the full stop.
@@casbot71
Thanks for explaining that.
*That's really cool!*
Really nice
Dooku thought he had a place in the new order Sidious will make after the clone wars but just as Maul was merely a blunt instrument to be discarded as need be, Dooku was merely a place holder for sidious true apprentice.
Maul wasn’t a placeholder. He was an actual loss who was supposed to be Sidious true apprentice.
@@user-dn3fn3bg4l If i'm not mistaken, i believe Maul wasn't even supposed to be a true sith lord. Plagueis and palpatine conscripted him to just be a sith assassin. Pretty much maul was a disposable tool used for the bigger picture much like dooku.
I know he wasn't a place holder, he a blunt instrument and maul was not built to be sidious's successor or a true dark lord. Sidious only train the zabrak so maul could do the missions that he could not do to his position as a senator of naboo. Darth Maul is only sith lord by name, nothing more, nothing less.
@@doucheymcfloppycock7459 That's what I believe plagieous thought once he figured out sidious had an apprentice....but I think sidious was always plotting maul to be the true dark lord of sith sucessor.
@@bigheadj.r.628 Wrong. Maul was intended to be sidious sith apprentice hence why he made the distinction for the purpose of maul and dooku. Dooku was an insturmental place holder, maul was an _LOSS_
Maul was sidious home grown apprentice for the future he foresaw.
Dooku’s empire would be cooler than reality, as dooku himself was cooler that reality
I always felt like Dooku thought Anakin would be his padawan as he trained qui gon and he would have been a good teacher to Anakin and help him understand both sides of the force.
Az Razerz in the novel he suggests to sidious to try to turn obi wan as his apprentice not anakin but sidious was having none of it
@@iamphilbo that's pretty cool. Thanks for letting me know
@@iamphilbo because Sidious was smart he knew Qui Gon trained Obi Wan too well frankly he was relieved when he learned Qui Gon died on Naboo
@@kurtpunchesthings2411
But we gotta appreciate that Dooku was trying to save Obi-Wan in a way. Afterall Obi-Wan was the padawan of Dooku's apprentice, Qui-Gon.
@@WhyTho525 Obi-Wan was pretty much Dooku’s grand-padawan
The Dooku character is probably the 2nd best thing to come out of the prequel movies...
Obi wan McGregor being the best
What about John Williams’ musical contributions (Duel of the Fates, Across the Stars, the opening score of Episode III, Anakin’s Betrayal, Anakin’s Dark Deeds, Anakin vs Obi-Wan, Battle of the Heroes)?
@@jcrews8582 CHARACTERS NOT MUSIC
Miserque Miguel
Well, Craig referred to Dooku as the second best *THING* to come out of the prequels
What about Hayden as Anakin?
are you right in the head i fckn love dooku but u gon ignore ma man mace and anakin and like millions of other great things in the prequels
Christopher Lee was such a badass, truly a supreme person.
Count Dooku thought that the Clone Wars would end in thunderous applause.
What both Dooku and Anakin failed to recognize was the fact that Sidious never planned to carry on with the rule of two after the formation of the empire in the sense that he would be succeeded by his apprentice but in reality planned to live as emperor forever and didn't care about his apprentices fates after his plans came into reality.
Yeah sidous was basically another Darth ruin
Around the time Revenge of the Sith came out in theaters, I was in a Barnes and Nobles bookstore and wanted to buy Stover's novelization, but didn't have the money, and a random guy bought the book for me.
I must've read that book a dozen times as a kid, and it also helped shape some of my early philosophies, and every time I watch videos like this, I'm reminded of how much of a solid that guy did me. If you're out there and somehow read this, from the bottom of my heart, thank you.
Imagine being that much of a respected actor youbdictate how your charwcter would act
Robert Halbert many actors do this already
Treachery is the way of the Sith.
Those shots at Generation Tech xD
Never pictured Dooku as a human-centric
Well he called them xenophobes in some videos couldn't blame him
@@jayvhoncalma3458 Palpatine was not humanocentric/speciest/racist or whatever you want to call it, for all his faults
The Fist Of The Empire...sounds like an idea for a future Star Wars movie.
The biggest flaw with his idea was that Anakin without ever being horribly damaged would if been far more powerful than Dooku and even palpatine so Dooku still would of died as there is no way Anakin would of served under him.
There are two what if scenarios I would like to see. 1 What if Dooku had gone too far and killed Anakin on Geonosis? 2 What if Anakin had obeyed Obi-Wan and fought in unison with him against Dooku?
An animated “What if....?” Series for Star Wars, like the recently announced MCU series would be super interesting! It’d allow us to see different versions of events in the films and for us to see elements of the EU/Legends to be used by writers again
Yesss🔥🔥🔥🔥
Tbh that would be cool for every franchise, would make money too so why not
@@Shadyganleymawn In my book, they already have done that for Star Wars! They've released three installations already:
The Force Awakens
The Last Jedi
Rise of Skywalker
@@scottowens398 like they say if ya fall into a bed of nettles, tis hard ta know which one stung ya
No way. Seriously Star Wars and Marvel are two ENTIRELY different franchises. We need to stop thinking that everything should mix because then that absolutely destroys the unique storys and universe within those franchises. Keep Thor on his side of the road and keep Vader on his side of the road.
Palpatine wouldn't have gone for Dooku's plan. He didn't want any threats to his own power. He only kept Vader because he was easy to control (or so he thought).
Dooku was also trying to kill Sidious after he told him to kill Ventress. He tells Savage that he'll become powerful enough to overtake him
Saruman: There will be no dawn for men.
Dooku 4:33 : There WILL BE dawn for men.
Dooku had a similar view to the imperium in 40k lol.
I actually like Dooku's vision. Far more thought put into it and far less selfish than what Sidious implemented. It also reminds me of Warhammer which automatically makes it awesome in my books
Bane's plan was essentially hide, wait, build power, take advantage of opportunities, strike when ripe. He didn't limit the Sith who would succeed him by locking down specific plans.
I think i just legit had BAttlefront 1 trauma flashbacks and thats great
That classic Star Wars Battlefront pre mission you added was nice bruh
I love watching these videos and they always make me happy when i watch them. Thank you for making them
Nobody:
Palpatine to everyone: see i pulled a little sneaky on ya
Isn't Dookus imagination for the future what actually happened on a smaller scale? Vader still trained the inquisitors, all very powerful, just not to the scale Dooku wanted
Your intro for the video is sick!! That Battlefront 1 loading screen gave me so much nostalgia
In legends continuity, Dooku actually knew the full plan, and was aware his duel with Anakin was a duel to the death. It wasn't uncommon for Palpatine to test his apprentice's in this manner, as seen in the Maul comics made by dark horse, with "winner stays on" stakes, ensuring Palpatine always had the strongest apprentice possible. Dooku's choice was simple, win the duel, go on to be the right hand of the empire, or loose, and die, with Anakin becoming the new sith Apprentice.
I always assumed that Dooku had good intentions, that he and Qui-Gon Jinn were 2 sides of the same coin--with his apprentice being more akin to a Grey Jedi and Dooku being a Grey Sith. I always assumed that Dooku's intentions with the Separatists were pure, that he believed Sideous would cause the Republic to crumble using the Clones to turn against the framed Jedi, forcing the Separatists to win and gain control of the galaxy, thus ending the seedy corruption that had slowly ensared the Republic and the feckless Jedi Order. That was my impression, anyway...
I'm sure Dooku thought so! But he was clearly not above quite a lot of 'ends justify the means', given his plan to lead the CIS then betray them wholesale... and the ends themselves seem more than a little questionable. Authoritarianism, xenocide, and theocracy. But it's easier to see him as some sort of twisted idealist, unlike Empy who seems to be one-dimensionally self-interested, and have no actual principles _whatsoever_.
Empy 🤣
You should do a rethink video on what if the invisible hand was destroyed not crashing in ROS
I love it when a video was uploaded 15 seconds ago
Tornadragon only the most devoted click on a video that fast... I respect that.
*applause*
Dooku's ideal empire sounds really cool. It doesn't suprise me that Dooku wanted an Army of Sith lead by Anakin.
Sounds like a version of Himmlers thaughts for a post war Germany...
I can see why Christopher Lee thought Dooku wouldn’t beg. However, that would be the best part of him begging in that moment. When it happens we’re focused on Anakin, and his descent, and nothing else. But seeing such a proud and esteemed man of ceremony reduced to a sudden fleeting moment of terrified anguish would be shocking. It would make Anakin’s deed far more sinister and give you a pit in your stomach. And most importantly, it would get you thinking: why would he be reduced to begging the Chancellor for his life? What sort of power does Palpatine really hold over him? How did Dooku expect this duel to end? My mind never went there during this scene in the film. I’d like to think that break of character would’ve actually improved the scene. Idk, maybe something like this would only work with a more fleshed out Dooku in the films. I guess if you don’t really get that impression of status, confidence, and superiority from Dooku seeing him beg makes his character look wish-washy or throw-away. 🤷🏻♀️
Dude that battlefront intro brought me back nice touch bro.
Honestly after hearing this it definitely do a lot better that what we got once when the Clone Wars were over.
I would love a "what if" story based on Dooku's plan.
This is my first time on your channel. Your use of the original Battlefront 1's loading screen fucking blasted me back to my childhood, wow.
Darth Tyranus would be so cool it should have it's own series: With a massive order of Sith hunting down the Jedi, the Inquisitors would in turn be Sith Acolytes.
I wish this has actually happened. It's much better than what really happened in ROTS.
wha- Hold on...
Sorry, that was the destiny
The Star Wars story would be over if this happened… no person can take this empire down
Would Dooku's Sith Empire have told Tarkin to screw his plans, they're going for quality fighters and practical war machines with proper support and formations.
And would be have approved of Vader killing underlings for any minor mistake or just bad luck?
2:44 Dooku is like ''This motherfucker here''
So Dooku wanted to bring peace, justice, and security to his new empire.
Your new empire!
@@Leviathan56 dooku : did't make me kill you !
Sounds like a good “What if” story
i inhaled cracker crumbs at the sand joke
Dooku’s biggest flaw his entire life was his hubris. From his time as a Padawan through the end. He always believed he was more deserving, rules didn’t apply, he was better etc. His fate at the hands of Skywalker was the perfect conclusion as the scene they left in the movie showed the pure shock on his face as he realized his greatest flaw had struck again. To be a part of a order that specializes and primarily deals in deceit and be surprised by it also shows a level naïveté on his part that again, goes back to his belief he was the exception.
The problem at the end of the Day with having a Sith Army is that they all believe they should be the Emperor.
These videos always make my day better
Dooku was dumb enough to think he could turn Obi-Wan into doing this plan with, as well as arrogant enough to think he could overcome Anakin.
Christopher Lee saying “imma sit this one out” makes me laugh 😅
Well you're talking about Legends Dooko. Canon Dooko is a mystery, we don't know his vision for canon.
“Canon” doesn’t matter, it’s just boring Disney trash
I've wondered for some time time what would have happened if Dooku followed Sith tradition and killed Sidious over Coruscant and became the master. Naturally, he followed Sidious' plan for reasons stated in the video and didn't put two and two together, realizing his imminent death. Had he though, I'm sure he would have taken matters into his own hands.
I really feel like the Canon keeps slowly cannibalizing Dooku.
I thought he was the guy who left the Jedi order due to their inconsistencies, and the politics of the time?
Sure, he had questionable morality, but he wasn't evil. He was supposed to have almost never had yellow sith eyes. I thought his motivation was to re-shape the galaxy into a more liberated place in response to the oppression of the Republic?
Yet here we find he's basically space Hitler, the clone wars series paints him as sinister and methodically evil to the nth degree. I... liked morally gray Count Dooku better.
@FFM _ thanks for the giggle
Christopher Lee's looks of betrayal was one of the finest moments of thespianism I've ever had the pleasure of admiring.
Your intro is the best. So much nostalgia, instant subscribed.
Holy nostalgia when I heard that intro
I kind of want to see alternate version
Bro I love that intro lol the zooming in effect from the original battlefront
I love that intro such a nostalgic Star Wars noise
Dooku post-war playing the victim and putting blame on Grievous is like Hirohito after WW2 and blaming Hideki Tojo for what Imperial Japan did.
I very much like Dooku's vision
Fuck my big black ass!!!!
Gladly
*Anakin beats Dooku*
Dooku: this is going as plan
Sidious: Kill him
*Anakin decapitates Dooku*
Dooku's force ghost: THEY PLAYED ME LIKE A DAMN FIDDLE!
I don't think that he should have begged but a blindsided call of something like "Lord, You can't be serious!"
Damnnn that battlefront loading screen near the start really took me back hahahah awesome.
This scenario would've be awesome Ive always been a fan of the kind of sith dooku was
3:32
aIgHt iMmA HeAd oUt
*aight imma sit out the rest of the war*
love the intro from Star Wars bf1 the original
Agreed
(SON OF MAIN USER SPEAKING)
"And of Course, eliminating any and all sand from the galaxy"
That gave me a good chuckle...
Okay, that sand joke at the end got me good.
Fun fact, Christopher Lee was a relative of Ian Flemming and Robert E Lee.
And a descendant of Charglemagne
He also assassinated Nazi SS members during world war 2
This makes Dooku so interesting. This video actually has new insights in it, rather than things I've heard a million times read like a list - really well done.
In the thumbnail it looks like Count Dooku is dealing with something rough 🥺 I kinda wanna hug him
That original battlefront intro gets me going 😂😂💀
Palpatine:Kill him,kill him now!
Doku :Palpatine is a sith lord and my master
THE END,Order 66 never happned,greivous is dead,Rex and Cody go fishing,Ahsoka plays with Anakin s kids and Doku is in prison shower while Bosk comes from behind
Lol!
"Dooku is in prison shower while Bossk comes from behind" lmao
Anakin didn't believe Fives so...
For me it would be even funnier that Grievous and Dooku have to share a cell, considering that they hated each other it would be super uncomfortable xd.
I really enjoyed this video!
I was skeptical about Anakin’s involvement until you mentioned the destruction of sand then I knew it was real! Well done!!
it would actully be really cool to see a comic like the old infinities run that explored this scenario