@@michaelbrickey-mt9zb honestly i don't think that's the case. I think she was handed the Job because 'The Acolyte' is frankly exactly what Kennedy always hoped to turn Star Wars in to. She was hired on the basis of her gender and sexuality because Kennedy wanted the photo ops with just that kind of person. The thing you have to remember about Weinstein is all of his sins were an open secret in Hollywood for decades. Nobody who's been working in the movie industry since the 1990s was unaware of what a scumbag he was. They also didn't care, because he was making them money. They only turned on him to avoid being caught up in the witch hunt themselves. it's not really a question of what Headland knows, it's that deep down people like Kennedy legitimately don't care.
@@petriew2018Doesn't blaming Weinstein turn you into a feminist, and thus part of the problem? He was the only man in the room, surrounded by harpies who eventually swooped in for the kill... not a story the Jedi would tell you. - Adûnâi
A murderer's slate is wiped clean because she claims she doesn't remember anything. A person throws her friend under the bus to cover her own keester after his death. A young woman starts a relationship with the man who murdered several people because he has a nice shaft. Truly, a Sith wrote this show.
You forgot via her relationship that prior to the guy, she had feelings for the Jedi girl. Never mind how it effects her sexual identity, but if yiu fall for someone and then someone kills tgat person I'm not sure how fast I'd downshift to a new romance.
I will say this- If someone has their memory removed, and a large part of their personality with it, are they even the same person anymore? She shouldnt be held accountable if she cant even remember osha anymore lol
That final interview segment with Headland really shows just how self centered she is. A father's love is all about control? A daughter has to reject it to be herself? Headland is a self-centered, self-righteous, narcisistic sociopath. Her talking like she has any sort if moral high ground is not only absurd, it's insulting
i mean she was harvey weinsteins assistant for years, she was giving him coffee while he was fucking underage 15 year old girls at his desk for parts and she didn't say anything what did you expect, it takes a certain type of evil to do something like that
Every time I see/hear/am reminded that Leslye refers to the end of the show as "Osha's triumph", it makes my skin crawl. This means that the showrunner's idea of triumph is unequivocably falling to evil, turning to the dark side, murdering an innocent man who loved and protected and tried to teach you, and going off hand-in-hand with the multiple murderer who killed your alleged previous love interest, attempted to murder both you and your sister, and kidnapped you while you were unconscious. Help me out here, because I don't see a single triumphant syllable in all of that.
It's the feeling of elation and triumph a very foolish teenage girl feels when she ditches her loser dad and runs off to be with her super-cool drug-dealer boyfriend.
The hilarity turned into dread when you find out that all of the sexual references aren't just Platoon's genius, but also a reflection of Leslye's real interpretation of all things Star Wars.
@@TheLittlePlatoon All those quotes were appalling; I can be one hell of a degenerate, sure, but the lens through which she seems to interpret art (and make her own) is disgustingly perverse!
@@ThePopcultureman if you know what to look for, it becomes apparent that Freud must have been onto something with penis envy. Women seem to always need to prove they are better than men; and yet this very show points out that ultimately they are brought to heel by a ripped dude with psychopathic tendencies. Worrying to say the least
I find it funny that Osha has a vision where she thinks Mae is killing Sol in a dark cloak outfit but then she chooses to wear that exact same outfit and doesn’t even realize
Well this is because they aren’t characters with opinions and personality, but a plot device, which doesn’t think or use logic, just do what the writers want…
It's extra hilarious given that the main defense shills of this show have is "you don't understand, this show is presenting the bad guys winning as a bad thing, it's a sad ending" But Leslie has since just come out and all but implied the ending IS a good ending because of Sol's "benign sexism" and called Osha's arc a "positive corruption arc".
Sol the guy who wanted to turn himself in but was convinced not to by a woman has "benign sexism"? Yeah sure that makes sense. Also his direct commander is a woman and both of his padawans were girls...
EXACTLY...this is the kind of show that makes you believe in conspiracy theories and the illuminati for how blatantly it loves the concept of Evil and Evil people
If I recall correctly, Lesbian Headlamp stated that she did the Plagueis cameo near the beginning, instead of at the very end. This way, Plagueis' scene wouldn't overshadow "Osha's moment of triumph." Edit: I found the article and the quote from Star Wars News Net. "“Plagueis was always in the finale, in every version. There was a version where he was the button of the finale [instead of Yoda]. You want to feel Osha’s triumph. You want to feel her joining forces with The Stranger. Plagueis stepped on [that moment]." “I was OK with having the cameo come so early if it meant I could wrap up these characters in a way that their final shot was not a, ‘And he’s been pulling the strings the whole time’ feeling.”
@@zogwort1522 no, it means gentle and kindly. Taking in the phrase "benign sexism" Leslie is saying that Sol was patronizing in a misogynistic way, which means it was okay for Osha to kill him.
Last night, my wife and I spent about 2 hours at an Outback steakhouse discussing the finer points of character, motivation, and plot for the second draft of a fantasy story we're co-writing. I didn't mention it at the time, because I didn't want to ruin the mood of lively and intelligent literary conversation, but it did occur to me that just one such session in any Disney writer's room would have fixed so many problems with shows like this one. Imagine that. Two hours conversation, less than $100 worth of food and drinks. And they can't even put in that much effort....
I used to think that a few D&D sessions would benefit the average Disney writer tremendously. I have been proven terribly, terribly wrong. Disney productions mosty hire brainless spineless moralles writers that can't do a single thing right, because apparently either Disney doesn't want to work with good writers, or good writers don't want to work with Disney. The kinds of people Disney hires just don't benefit from criticism, suggestions or explanations. In order to do that, they'd have to go through an extraordinate amount of character development, and they're not willing to do that.
That's great man! I've also gone in a similar direction with writing my own book, except my wife is being my critic and editor of sorts to make sure the plot stays coherent 😂 I wish Disney had hired you two for this show, writers with brains are becoming a rare breed indeed!
She is on camera, along with her “wife”, admitting that they identify as Sith. Her “wife” even quips it’s because “I’m evil”. These people know what they are, they are proud of it, and are not afraid at all to admit it. They think it’s perfectly fine and “cool” as Amandla Stenberg says in the very next statement. They are the real possessors of “privilege” because they can be openly celebratory of evil without any accountability whatsoever. I’ve heard it from their own mouths, on camera. And until they are punished for their wickedness, it will only get worse.
I was thinking the same thing. The interviews prove that the show didn't just come out a mess in editing or something, but that she deliberately pushed for evil. I don't like using the word "evil" flippantly either, but I don't know what else to call it. She literally thinks murdering your father because he's protective of you is justified. She thinks the personal freedom to do anything, including murdering people, is the highest goal, not just for her but for most people, that it's relatable. And her justification for all of this is because she has a pathological fear of being mildly disliked for being a lesbian. In LA. In Hollywood. She is an absolutely despicable human being, and should be locked away where she can't do any harm.
I don't think "interviews" or "meta-content" should really have any impact on the source material. Bill Cosby may be a rapist, and I can hate him for that but still enjoy the Cosby show. Anything should be able to stand on its own merits and stand up to scrutinization.
It's kind of brilliant, really - Headland heard about the "unreliable narrator" plot technique and thought to herself "I could apply that concept at the writing staff level!"
Just one problem - the “unreliable narrator trope requires competent writers to make it work: once the writers themselves become unreliable in creating the narrator as a character, the story breaks down…
I just love that Osha lets every one else explain away their reasons for hours at a time, forgives them instantly. Gets a vague confirmation of guilt from Sol he killed her mother and chokes him to death before he can finish speaking. She watched Smilo cut down her former Jedi friends and is his best friend in the next scene. Not only does she let him speak, she lets him take a bath and casually cook her dinner afterwards.
It's a 'Right of conquest' psychological phenomenon. Young, somewhat impressionable/naive girl watches a dude who is physically and mentally stronger than any other dude she's ever met exert his power and will on her clearly weaker cohorts (that typically adhere to opposite beliefs and moral alignments than him) through force. This visceral display of dominance inexplicably makes her drawn to him and compels her into thinking that she's 'his' now, not necessarily as property, but because he has proven through martial prowess to be a tremendous step up from the current clique she belongs to. A historical example would be Cu Cuhlain, basically the Irish Hercules, wanting to marry this princess but the King refuses. Feeling completely disrespected Cu Cuhlain destroys his castle, wipes out his army, and conquers his kingdom. At which point the princess, utterly infatuated by this tough and crazy bastard, practically throws herself on him and so begins a long, happy marriage between the two(sort of). Now you would think that as a staunch feminist Lesbian Headlamp would find this kind of scenerio barbaric and the absolute pinnacle of toxic masculinity. You would think but....
It's especially bizarre considering she told her long lost sister that the jedi were more her family than she ever was in the episode right before she falls for the guy who killed her jedi friends.
@@theadaptationstationmaster Which she allowed to explain away all their back story, and spent hours/days with them. Couldn't give Sol 5 minutes to explain himself before killing him.
I have never thought that a creator of bad media was evil until now. Holy shit, that interview with Headland revealed a soul as black as pitch. The woman truly is evil. I just don't see any other way to explain the way she views things. This isn't a case of judging an author by their characters, this is the author herself saying her evil as fuck characters are moral and good.
@@GusBried I'm not going to second that because I think it is possible to be willfully blind to evil going on around you. It's not a good luck but it doesn't make you the same as them. That one person's other former assistants have mostly come out and admitted he was suspicious but not that he openly admitted to them what he was doing, so I don't think that alone says anything. The fact that she's the only one who, still, to this day, has maintained she never saw or heard anything remotely suspect is, however, rather suspect. But these interviews are just admissions.
She was his personal assistant. She would not have been able to be blind to what happened. Especially when it was an open secret that there was a joke about it in I think 30 Rock. This is not surprising in the least.
So it’s ok for Smilo Ren to murder all of OSHAs Jedi friends and it’s ok for OSHA to murder Mr squid game? And it’s ok for Fanny Mae to kill trinity and Tommen? Since it’s portrayed to be all a good thing apparently. But it’s not ok for mr squid game and company to mistakenly kill the scary Smokey demon witch and company? Double standards much? So apparently the Sith are good and the Jedi are evil? The Jedi may be deeply flawed but that does not make the Sith the good guys.
I would Say this for the other shows, they at least were not on the side of the mass murdering Sith and could tell who the good guys are. Even if those show where deeply flaw, they at least had some level of undertanding and respect for the franchise
@@juanfranciscovillarroelthu6876 yeah as bad as the other shows and movies were, at the very least they could tell good from evil, aka the most basic aspect of Star Wars.
Did you hear about the story of Darth Creeper The Hard? I thought not, it's not something the sane would tell you. He spent his life in a cave, looking at young women and their lovers. He explored his anatomy thoroughly. He gripped his lightsaber--tightly. Ironic, he could make himself come, but never others.
I do have to ask but what were all those young women and their lovers doing in his cave? That seems both really rude and intrusive and extremely fortuitous for someone named creeper
Comparing Mae to gollum is really unfair to Gollum. Yes, Gollum does switch between motives quite a bit but a) not nearly as often or as rapidly as Mae and b) Gollum switching between Motives has a proper explanation that makes sense. He is severly psychologicaly damaged from centuries of complete isolation in a cave system in total darkness while being corrupted by the one ring. That has lead him to develop a second personality, essentially a coping mechanism to deal with the loneliness and also a personality that can do the things neccesary to survive that his primary personality couldn't cope with. Gollum is a tragic character not a tragedy of a character.
Plus Gollum's whole motivations are pretty clear, they're just in conflict with each other and that conflict of motivation is expressed through his personalities. "Smeagol" is mostly motivated by wanting to be good to Frodo to cling on to the one bit of kindness he's known in centuries (and allows him to express his subconscious hatred for the Ring and what it has done to his life), "Gollum" wants to get the Ring back and return to a life of endless solipsistic self-absorption. Since Frodo carries the Ring there is irreconcilable conflict in these motivations, which is played out in Gollum's discussions with himself and reflective of which motivation is stronger at the time. What you said is also accurate, but I just wanted to point out how Gollum's personalities are used so well in both book and movie specifically to avoid this problem and clarify Gollum's motivations so it doesn't come off to the audience like he's just doing random things based on what the writer wants to happen. Definitely not remotely like Mae just switching her motivations on a dime for no clear reason. I mean, I think that like with Gollum they probably wanted to portray uncertain and conflicted motivations for Mae, but that requires writing beyond the Acolyte's capabilities and acting beyond Amandla's abilities.
In 2023, feminist author Elise Loehnen published a book entitled "on our best behaviour, the 7 deadly sins and the price women pay to avoid them." In this book she argues that pride, lust, gluttony, sloth, wrath, envy and greed are not sins at all. That the evil Christian patriarchy just convinces women these things are sinful in order to oppress them, for example convincing women not to be "slothful", to go and work on behalf of others (how terrible that would be), and how convincing women greed is bad contributes to the gender pay gap (the apparently %55 gender pay gap according to said author). Rather than avoiding sins, Women should think of greed, lust, etc as virtues and try to embrace them as much as possible in their daily lives. So, it's not surprising that in this sort of moral climate, we now get a version of Star wars which literally celebrates evil, and attempts to portray the forces of good as horrible oppressors!
@@theadaptationstationmaster Ah, but you forget, they're still sins for men! at least if they oppress women! It's only women that need to embrace the sinful lifestyle, men need to show as much virtue as possible; well towards women anyway. It's just like in the acolyte, May's attempted murder of her sister and her actual murders of the Jedi are all absolutely fine! but having all those poor oppressed smoke demon witches die while trying to possess and/or attack people? No! that is bad and wrong and someone needs to pay the ultimate price! That's why Smilo ren gets to be an honorary woman! Since he's obviously been oppressed by the evil sithist Jedi, and anyone oppressed needs to commit more sins!
@@DEATH-THE-GOAT I would guess this feminist writer doesn't think much of him either. I mean "love thy neighbour as thyself", I bet that oppresses women as well :D.
I wonder if the end chapter of her book touches upon the feminist reality of dying alone in which your 25 starving cats eat your face off before neighbours notice the foul smell? 😂
In 2024 intelligent scientists created "Goldene" - the worlds thinnest gold structure, a sheet only one atom thick. Later in 2024 complete morons created an even thinner structure, the Acolytes plot and consistency. How you extracted such structured cogent analysis from such a mess TLP, I have no idea. Well done and thankyou for the huge amount of recent brilliant content. Go get some well earned rest !
It really is amazing how hard it is to express what's wrong with the show. There's so much wrong with it on a fundamental level that you constantly have to EFAP to explain the issues and it just keeps piling up and up. Every problem has at least five other problems that are directly connected to it that you have to explain at the same time.
Just remember that in the EU holding a lightsaber to someone's skin was used as a form of torture. But Osha doing it to Smilo is just chilling like it's a cold blade. They melt thru blast doors, for heaven's sake.
It's actually hilarious how Osha, Mae and Qimir all at the end are supposed to appear as triumphant heroes against flawed and terrible Jedi as if they didn't all commit murder, Qimir mass murder and its playing triumphant music as if we're supposed to side with them. Holy unscalable cringe.
It almost physically hurt when they finally found each other, hugging and crying. I almost internally screamed, they are bad people. Why is it here, it is so out of place!
@@dontbeorbeevil yeah, that was truly the trifecta of fecality (the "trifecality," I call it; also plan to use this as the name for when & if the colossal cuntretempacity of this colonic catastrophe actually causes a killin') ahem. it was a trifecality, as I was saying, because: → The girl can't act; I wouldn't buy it even if the story had earned it, I'm afraid. → As you say, this is the triumph of evil. Why u playin' this as if we might even tear up a little bit, Lesley*? That's mega cringe, and no joke... → Even in-universe, from their own perspectives, this isn't the culmination of sh!t. Siblings who never got along, never seemed to feel the lack of the other, didn't even get along when reunited - nor even CARE, apparently, sometimes... (...and, of course, from our perspective it means nothing, as well - just as little as it was to the characters, so little was it made meaningful or anticipatory to the audience.) _*(not checking spelling of name, in a tiny act of defiance-)_
You can have a show about evil characters. It isn't new by any stretch. But you cannot have a show about badly written evil characters. At least not one people will like. And doubly so when the evil characters are supposed to be the "good guys". Having evil characters think themselves as heroes would be interesting. But that isn't what we got. We got the creators thinking the evil badly written characters are heroes.
I dont even know if its ironic how Leslye sees everything as sexual, parenting as benign sexism and multiple horrible crimes in the name of freedom and justified because sexism and how the character with whom she identified the most is a serial felon who MUST be forgiven because "reasons" even though whatever squid games did could also apply to a mother trying to protect a daughter, freedom does not entail freedom to kill and wants do not equal moral justification to do whatever and then be forgiven because the father of your apprentice lied, the final scene of them hand holding whispers "Im sorry I kill your girlfriend and friends but I was feeling judged by people with different morals" and then she says "k"
Since when did the word "parenting" get changed to "benign sexism"???? They know most mothers try to protect their adult sons and daughters too right???? What is happening....
Wild how the acolyte of an evil person wrote a convoluted story where the "good" twin becomes the acolyte of an evil person while the bad twin is "redeemed" by merely turning away from said person. Oh and also the story features multiple cover ups lol
The 4 Jedi masters dying and then trying to keep it a secret would be impossible. Think of it as being in the military. You have a company with four platoons, and one day, all four PSG were just gone. Everyone would ask questions and spread rumors.
This is the problem with taking the Star Wars universe, created in the 1970s when instant worldwide communication wasn't a thing, and then trying to make it look as if it's 2024. People would wonder why Trinity and whatever the other dead Jedi were called weren't returning their holocalls any more.
@@wishingwell12345 To be fair this is a mistake of old SW that made comunications instantaneous and ftl way too strong. Of course Disney inflated this problems but I would still say that is a problem with the setting.
the best joke ever said about this show is “even in a galaxy far far away black kids don’t have a father” i guess the force went out for a pack of menthols
And they weren’t abandoned by their dad who “went out for smokes,” they were abandoned by their mom who turned into smoke. And then never tried to contact her kids ever again.
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@@TheNoonish the real question was if horny lezbo turned into a menthol or bold flavored smoke monster I always imagined she turned into kool or virginia slims menthol smoke monster.
My God. I wish so hard, that Lesley got interviewed by someone who isn't just a mindless drone. I don't need to see her get trampled in discussion, however satisfying that would be. I just want her to get a MINIMAL amount of pushback, to explain how exactly Smilo Ren has moral highground, or why she didn't even bother with the concept of time, making so that intergalactic travel is akin to stepping into the room nearby. I think that would have been so informative and enlightening and could have shed skme light on the general Hollywood fuckery. That, of course, will never happen, but a calm, collected and respectful interview by someone from, let's call it "opposite side" would do SO MUCH GOOD. Also I don't believe for a second she loves or even likes Star Wars. That whole show seemed like an extremely expensive vendetta against... I don't even know... Male population as a whole? Christianity and morality? Writing in general? George Lucas? Disney? Kennedy herself? Today I watched a video on Last Jedi by Nutsa and she made a very interesting point: the reason any coverage of Last Jedi is so emotional and aggressive (compared to many other bad movies) is that Rian Johnson couldn't have made so many bad choices if he didn't knew what decision were RIGHT, so it comes off as spiteful and the audience FEELS, that something is not right, that the whole think stinks of spite, disregard and even outright hatred to the viewers. I can't shake that feeling, when watching Acolyte covereges (mainly your own, but also some others, like EFAP crew). How the hell can NOTHING make sense? Not motivations of any character, world building, power levels, causality, even the concept of passage of time? Not to mention more ethereal concepts like ethics, morality and faith (we still have zero clue what the witches actually were). It all seems too wrong to not have been done on purpose. At some point you can't keep invoking incompetence if malice becomes so apparent. Of course that invites a more pressing question: How exactly was that allowed to happen? Lesley's answers in her interview show that she doesn't even know her own work. WHY was she allowed to sink 180 million dollars in what amounts to not an incompetently made, but ultimately passionate project by someone way over their head, but more akin to a spiteful manifesto against... Something. It's just too competent in its horribleness. I'm sorry, but I have one more thing to add to this wall of text. Who exactly does Lesley have by the balls to make this all happen? And if blackmail is afoot, then why not use it to make something you genuinely enjoy, a passion project, something you will pour your heart into and even if you don't succeed, it's visible, that you TRIED, that it meant something to you and ultimately is made with good intentions. Why waste a good blackmail to create something so oozing with hatred to source material and to whoever held up hope for this project? Acolyte hurt EVERYONE involved with it. From the showrunner and her wife, through writers, actors, music producers, effects people, and even the viewers (if you don't count salaries, of course). WHY waste resources on something so incomprehensively terrible?
I'm not sure how much fo the show she even wrote--she appears to not even know many of the details of the show, like she's having to grope for explanations just like the audience is. It seems like she wrote certain scenes and details (the morally reprehensible ones) and then other people wrote the rest without her.
@@billjacobs521 Ostensibly, she should be the one who's job it was to make sure everything was consistent. Even if other people are writing it, she would be the one who would "conduct" them so the plot and characters work in harmony and from episode to episode. That is clearly not what happened.
You too? Mine was a caffeine accelerated crystal that you'd expect to have an orange glow, but mine was definitely Sith red at the blade discharge lens. Scared me back to the light side of clear fluids for a good while. Edit some English doctor blew it up with a sonic screwdriver!
"Thats not how the Force works!" That line is literally the ONLY thing good to come outta the sequel trilogy... because That line can be used in ALL Disney Star Wars shows.
Can't wait to see how they'll explain that everything is Jedi master squid game's fault for committing the crime of self defense against a woman who not only mind raped Jedi Twink but also was in the middle of turning into one of those Shazam movie shadow demons
Become a personal assistant to a rich, powerful predator. Then, while you work for him, gather lots of evidence on other rich and powerful people who were involved with him. After that, I'm sure you can figure it out.
His character is really odd looking back at it, why does an outside character care so much that they are willing to pull wires out of the spacecraft they are in to stop a Jedi?
Why not, the “protagonist(s)” switch motivations within the same dialogue. Why should Danger Mouse be any different in the hands of these half-wit “writers”?
You know for a show that is, acccording to the showrunner, about the toxic side of a father-daughter bond. The worst parent on the show is the horned mother of the girls. Seriously she bullied 1 daughter into forcing another to stay, leading to the fire and when she sees her clearly scared daughter cry for help she prepares to attack the Jedi leading to an escalation. It would have been interesting had Mae been raised to believe that everything was her fault by her mother and she needed to avenge them. Of course that would be looking into the toxic side of a mother-daughter, with possible stage mom syndrome, and that's clearly out of the question.
@@Lemon_InspectorThat's why I don't understand why Mae isn't more pissed off at her horny lesbian mother. She abandoned her daughters made them orphans, but somehow Sol is a bad guy for taking one of the girls in. WTF?
Believe it and let this sink in "Even in the revelation of our triumph, we see the depth of our despair," and further down the spiral we continue to descend...
I need to forget Kenobi first, then ASSoka, then this one... There are a lot of shows I need to forget first. No wonder the Drinker drinks toilet duck...
It's the butchery of Plagueis that hurts the most for me, even though the cleaver is still hanging in the air as far as the plot's concerned. The obvious pathway from the Acolyte to the prequels is that Plagueis spends decades hiding from the Jedi in the darkest corners of the galaxy, takes the Topless Sith Wannabee under his wing, then betrays him after realising he and Occupational Safety and Health Administration (cracking gag BTW) are a major threat, and is then inspired by the Space Witches' act of creating life when he tries to create the Chosen One. Using the character in this way is an act of theft and wanton vandalism of existing art. The Plagueis of the novel was, in his own words, an 'aged raspy-voiced yellow-eyed monster', but his ability to hide in plain sight using the Force was one of his greatest weapons, one that he used to glide through the corridors of power in the Republic as he manipulated events directly and indirectly. Most importantly, it was a skill that he nurtured in Palpatine so that his apprentice possessed it in spades. His skills in political subterfuge facilitated the moral collapse of the Republic and the election of Palpatine in the prequels, while his ability to manipulate the Force to achieve immortality was entirely the result of his own studies of life, which he performed with the briliance of 100 nuclear physicists and the ethical framework of a serial killer. Together, these abilities and achievements justify his sobriquet of "The Wise" and explain why his death at Palpatine's hands, just as he appeared on the verge of achieving all his goals, is a "Tragedy". All that has been discarded to drop him into a plot in which it appears his greatest skills will be: hiding in caves, manipulating Jedi dropouts, eavesdropping and stealing the ideas of a cult. The only positive of this disgrace is that it has been so comprehensively rejected by viewers.
Who’d have thunk that Disney would end up as a fertilizer factory existing only to help nurture video crops for hordes of RUclipsrs. Now we reap the harvest.
It surely has happened before, but thanks to the scale of the internet, the scale of careers kickstarted by shit media is surely far greater. I could see documentaries being done about it in the future.
I am convinced people defend this show because they see a certain group of people they don't like also don't like the show, means they must like and defend it out of principle than genuine interest
That, and just being simps for Disney/Star Wars. And the fact that there is always a percentage of people who will like literally any talking pictures you show them--I think the lights and sounds are hypnotic to these people.
Thank you for calling out the "Hang on Pip!" in the planetary ring chase! That line took me completely out of the scene. Why would she say that? That's not her droid. She has no emotional connection to it. Nor has she talked to it before except to ask it if it can do a diagnostic on the ship power or something. I don't think she even knew it's name. AND how is it supposed to "hang on"? It made me immediately think this scene is supposed to be Osha escaping. Not Mae (dressed as Osha). Which made me convinced the whole switcharoo with the twins was an afterthought added later in reshoots. The show stinks of rewrites, reshoots and reshuffling of episodes to try to make it work. Ironically, that explains so much how difficult this show is to follow and make sense and why the character's motives change constantly. And the budget!
It matches with how the ‘twins’ act as well. As Osha-as-Mae acts like evil Mae much of the time. I can easily believe the actress had no idea which twin she was supposed to be playing in each scene and since her direction came from the script/headland, well…. We see the result. (Also her sum total of one expression ‘constipated frustration’ doesn’t help the audience)
Ah yes, Basil, the galaxy’s most convenient Deus Ex Marmota. “Marmots are large ground squirrels in the genus Marmota. These herbivores are active during the summer, when they can often be found in groups, but are not seen during the winter, when they hibernate underground. They are the heaviest members of the squirrel family. Marmots are large rodents with characteristically short but robust legs, enlarged claws which are well adapted to digging, stout bodies, and large heads and incisors to quickly process a variety of vegetation. While most species are various forms of earthen-hued brown, marmots vary in fur coloration based roughly on their surroundings.” Mark my words, if this benighted series continues, Basil will turn out to be a Force/Sith Alchemy/Island of Doctor Moreau creation of Darth Plagueis doing his will because that would be dumb, convenient, nonsensical, and entirely in keeping with Disney’s incompetence. For all we know, Basil too is a Sith. All hail Darth Rodentia the MacGuffin. Are we entirely sure his species, if he has one, isn’t MacGuffin? I’m going to assume it is.
@@darthgamer9861I have to admit, it’s probably too far fetched to presume the illiterate lemmings that wrote this show ever read that story, so even if I’m right, the parallel will have been entirely coincidental on their part and something they’ll pat themselves on the back for as “original and brilliant”.
@@contentsdiffer5958 i always laugh when Wikipedia e-begs to me. Why would I give you money when you abandoned any sense of impartiality and neutrality ages ago?
@@GeraltofRivia22 I completely agree. They no longer even pretend to be objective, and many pages have been trimmed and skimmed to an embarrassing extent.
Even though it’s of special scientific interest, and of special religious interest to the Jedi. Everyone just forgets about it. Though I’d not be surprised if Plagueis paid it a visit in S2.
I don't remember if it was stated to be on the outer rim, but it sounds like it, and it's outside of Republic reach, so I'm not surprised that no group decided on a big, expensive colonization effort in 2 decades.
I can sorta justify it, the planet is supposedly in the middle of nowhere and long abandoned, outside republic space. It being lush and wonderful is all well and good but unless it has amazing natural resources to exploit there really isn't a reason to colonize such an out of the way area. Now the fact the giant fortress is supposedly an old mining facility suggest there are resources worthy of exploiting on planet and at some point some people had an interest in living there.
There's really no words for it. The more I learn about the EU, combine it with Lucas' original works, and then compare it to this... Abomination and the "writers" intent behind it, and the fact that it's now canon... It truly is the destruction of Star Wars. Queue the Obi-Wan scene from RotS. "I can't watch anymore..."
I think we should coin the term "Smilos Lightsaber" as the opposite of Chekovs Gun - a symbol if you will, of how a show can show something and then completely forget it exists later on.
The opposite is a Red Herring. Something ordinarily introduced to trick or distract the audience but is of no importance or significance on the plot... In this instance, because they forget about it, rendering it's effect on the story void. A Red Herring of stupidy or "Accidental Red Herring", as I call it rather than of purpose 😂
What I am baffled to discover through giving some thought to the points about the show's twisted morality is that the first thing I recalled was a scene from Monty Python's Life of Brian. It's a bit of a long shot, but bear with me. In said scene, members of the People's Front of Judea (a name they are very particular about) are plotting to kidnap the wife of Roman governor Pontius Pilate for the cause of freeing Judea from Roman occupation. Before the plan is to begin, they have a final conversation where one of them decries the Romans taking their money through taxation, then asks "What did the Romans ever give us in return!?" obviously expecting the others to echo "Nothing!" as a rallying cry to raise morale. Instead of that however, we get a hilarious scene of each group member calling out something else the Romans have done that has made life better/more convenient for the people of Judea. Building roads, aqueducts, developing infrastructure, medicine, education, wine, with the final member saying "they brought peace." The scene then ends with the one who posed the question saying "Alright, they've done all these things, but besides that, what have they given us?! Nothing!" To me this is a perfect image of the blind and deaf hobby-revolutionaries we see nowadays. People who see a problem with authorities and authority figures purely because they are authority figures, establishing an idiotic "it has power so it must be evil" idea that other reasons can then be rallied behind. This 'deconstruction' of the Jedi reminds me of this exact thing as it devolves to inane mudslinging. And the way Leslye justifies making objective, pure evil win as a triumphant thing, it just reeks of someone who is either incredibly twisted herself or is merely spouting out hollow ideas without anything to stand behind them. The way she presents the Jedi to try and demonise them while not showing them as having done anything clearly wrong just shows she expects the mere fact they are powerful to somehow garner the audience's contempt. From her point of view it seems, there is no reason to justify hating the Jedi because they are figures of authority and like the character in Life of Brian asks "What have the Jedi ever done for us?" She clearly expects people to just nod along and go "Nothing!" without ever bringing up all the objectively known and even implied and suggested heroic deeds the Jedi as a collective have done for the galaxy. The villain side is also pretty telling because she expects us to look at The Stranger as an almost revolutionary figure without understanding why he is actually evil. The lines about him just wanting to practice the use of the Force ignore both the fact that the Jedi don't police the mere use of the Force (as there are several non-Jedi Force-user communities even during the era of the Clone Wars that the Jedi are just fine letting live and free) and the fact that The Stranger is practicing his "freedom" by murdering people and training others to murder people. And yet we are urged to just blindly nod along to the idea of "freedom" without understanding the context and exact details of that freedom being on offer. This woman is suffering from the same exact brainrot that Monty Python was parodying 45 years ago...and she is celebrated for it...
1:08:00 'you did a deal with my sister and you expected her to uphold it. That's fair'. Bahahahah, no way a human being wrote this line. I refuse to believe it.
@@billjacobs521 And, best of all, when she didn't 'kill a jedi without a weapon' (per the story nonsense), he didn't kill her. Thus, he actually isn't trustworthy, as he broke his deal.
Jeckie isn't unlikeable, although she's kind of a know it all and a brown noser. Qimir isn't sympathetic, but he's kind of like Christian Slater in Heathers. A likeable bad guy. Sol is okay, he's kind of a poosy and a pushover. He's a goodie goodie. Everyone else is pure shite.
Im convinced they came up with the whole "two halves of one person" thing to get out of writing full characters. No no guys, she's bland and characterless because she's half a person! It was on _purpose_
Using The Little Mermaid as a template, you can see the depth of Leslye"s myopic narcissm. She calls Ariel"s overprotection by a smothering father 'benign sexism' instead of the obvious "father hovering over his precious daughter." Leslye has no idea how it feels to bring up a child to adulthood.
Thats weird, you know? She has had a daughter born in May 2023. Of course you are right, she can't know how it is to bring a child to adulthood yet, but she should understand the concept of motherhood and how much protection of a child it involves. The fact, that she thinks over protectiveness should be resolved by MURDERING A PARENT is just insane
Why is it important that the twins are the same person split between two bodies? How does it make a difference? It’s not like they end up melding together or anything.
Basically Lesley liked Amandla so much she used the twins excuse as a means to have her in the show as more than 1 character. Oh and stealing the force creation idea from George to justify her existence. You'd have an aneurysm trying to understand what is going on in that bint headlamps head.
And it's what a twin is to begin with. Identical twins are the same person that's been duplicated in the womb. They go on to become different in many ways thanks to experience but at the start, that's the definition of an identical twin to begin with.
Something something anti individuality, something something collective soul, something something post modernists are nothing but psychopaths possessed by the call of The Void who feel guilty for existing and resent God for creating them.
I’m thinking Sol’s death is unintentionally messianic, in a sad kind of way. He forgave his killer as she killer him. (Like Jesus on the cross) His death bought everyone a way to avoid consequences of their actions. This part of the analogy is, of course, horrible broken - making it more consistent with the rest of the show. 😅
Just coming to my mind: Did anyone address that Smilo himself gave Mae the poison in episode 2, thus sabotaging the mission he himself sent her on, to kill Tommen without a weapon, since that apparently didn't count? I mean, sure, USING it was her choice, but that was literally our introduction to the character and can we play the clip about him being fair again?
I don’t understand why Fanny May’s path to the dark side would be “complete” after killing Sol when she’s already killed three other Jedi and had no particular connection to him. Why didn’t those murders complete her journey? No sense.
They completed her journey because the author says so - and the author seems to have forgotten the primary rule of fiction: that the difference between fiction and reality is that fiction *must* make sense.
1) It's bizarre that this is something disney would let happen. Headland's vulture interview basically had her misunderstand the cave on Dagobar and then when she relates the acolyte to her play ('Christianity is the ultimate dream. It’s a beautiful concept that God becomes human in order to love you more. Then you look at what Christianity has done to the world: colonization, genocide. It was a beautiful dream that doesn’t justify the human action that comes along. The Jedi also live in a dream, a dream they believe everybody has. In The Acolyte, the pilot ends with the line “An acolyte kills the dream.” '). So the first detail is Headland being allowed to create a story in which the Jedi are a punching bag for her issues with her parents. And where was Disney's PR team while Headland was having seriously whack interviews. The Rachel Ziegler catastrophe was probably because Ziegler was coached on political commentary. Headland can't possibly have gotten disney to agree to every last thing she says as being lore now. I just don't know how Bob Eiger hasn't physically got in the car and driven to physically prevent her from doing interviews. When dealing with a billion-dollar (family friendly) IP, he needs to have confidence in Headland's discipline in choosing what to say - and what not to say. It can't be hard to ask her to not endorse evil. 2) The second element is they've intentionally sold the audience an incomplete product. The only way the narrative makes sense if if they plan to backfill A LOT. It's like buying a model aeroplane and then finding out they've deliberately withheld half the pieces and you have to buy however many other products you feel like for the entry level product to have a basic level of completeness. I struggled to think of a metaphor. Initially I was going with them selling their audience a puppy and then the consumer finding out Disney had hacked off several of its limbs and you needed to buy them back. It needed those limbs. They weren't optional extras. The intention of disney doing this is weird. You want a difficult watch? Watch a Gaspar Noé flick (Please don't). On top of that, the best case is they're screwing the audience out of something that meets the basic criteria of a piece of competent fiction. The green character based on clips seems to be a charisma black hole. Anyone with a functioning brain is going to know that a character whose thing is they don't emote is going to have ZERO charisma. They knowingly build a narrative thread about a character with the warmth of a wooden board.
@@victorcates9330 That, "Christianity is a dream" schlock makes me unreasonably angry. First off, her theology is, expectedly, awful. God didn't come down to love us more, He came down to save us from sin. Secondly, its funny how people like leslye never mention the good Christianity has done. Modern Universities, scientific breakthroughs, oodles and oodles of charity and humanitarian work, the entire moral foundation of the western world, etc. etc. They always focus on "muh colonization." Also, what dream do the Jedi live in, exactly? She never expands upon that (what a shocker) and instead just acts like we're inside her head and know what she's thinking (Thank God in Heaven that we aren't).
The hilarious thing is decades ago Disney was so protective of its kid branding the adult shit had its own label, Touchstone it might have been called. They really don't care now.
I like how they want the elegance of having the story ending where it began, on Brendok, but nobody has any reason to actually be at Brendok. Sol goes there because…??? He’d just seen his whole team killed by a Sith, and decided he didn’t want to deal with that. He found Mae, and instead of taking her to Coruscant as a prisoner, or to get her blood tests to compare to Osha, he went to Brendok. And the only reason Osha and Qyburn go to Brendok is because the writers dropped in a vision of the future so that Osha could figure out where the plot is.
Exactly. Especially when Osha had completely lost her connection to the Force and had done nothing to rebuild that connection besides walk by a couple moth-bugs, but apparently a few minutes under a not-sensory deprivation helmet that blocks stuff related to your mind, causes a random vision of the future. But yea, why Sol goes to Brendok rather than return to Coruscant or even just wait for the Jedi to arrive where he was is nonsense beyond making himself look suspicious for ultimately no reason. But then, many characters in this series do all manner of things for no reason, other than the writers need them to for plot they want to happen. Or in Yord's case to make him look like a fool just because.
I got it: Basil is actually the body puppet of Darth Tenebrous, who is controlling him with his body-snatching Force virus. The Dark Lord is now stuck with the impossible task of cleaning Smylo Ren's mess with all the evidence the Jedi already have. It will require guile and quite a lot of clouding the Jedi's sight in the Force but he has to do it to keep the secret of the Sith's existence. Of course, the real Basil is still there, conscious of everything his body is forced to do yet unable to resist the dark will that guides him.
That actually IS explained; because he believed Mae to be dead, and that she would be necessary to prove it. It's a bizarre, pointless motivation that I suspect is a leftover from a previous draft.
@@billjacobs521 look i know most of the show is crap but they had the scans, the blood samples, they have at least one of the twins to show she matches one of those samples. they really didnt need both.
@@billjacobs521I thought the vergence was on Brendok, ostensibly at the tree, and crazy mother used that to create the twins? It'd be odd for the twins to be the vergence given: (a) they're split so not converged; and (b) the vergence was thus artificial, making crazy mother the most powerful force user ever. Ergo, they could still investigate Brendok for the vergence. If the twins were the vergence, then given they're both alive, the Jedi should still sense it. Else why did they go to Brendok at all? Not to mention the blood tests. Or, most likely, this show is stupid and the writers wrote illogical nonsense.
Disney Star Wars is a world where people are absolutely ready to, at any moment, listen to, and believe, people that they themselves have witnessed doing the most atrocious things, while , on the other hand, they are also willing to believe the most horrible things about people that they have only witnessed being brave, honest, good, and honorable. kind of weird that.
Yeah, its strange. And a double standard. That i think is bred from a belief that all people are inherently evil, and a blind hate of religion (which isn't to say religious groups don't have bad people, just they don't care to separate good people from bad. It's just a restrictive, intrusive religion). If I had to make sense of it, I think that they believe all people are evil. That bad people are just being themselves, and moral people are either 1) pretending they aren't also evil or 2) are undermining the immoral with their goodness.
@@ThreadBareHope1234 You give the writers more credit than I do. I think that it is more a clumsy and hamfisted attempt to do a " grey morality" scenario.
@@HunnysPlaylists Yes. The idea that a choice , made by one , or two, individuals, thousands of years ago, means that every single other person, for the remainder of time, is responsible for said person or person's action is highly conclusive. Inane, but conclusive.
The show is like staring into the depths of the psych of a villain that can't accept responsibility for any of their vile actions. Not because of competence from the writers tho, it's just because they truly are that way.
And below average IQ let’s face it she lesbian headband could be evil twisted and still make a great show Unfortunately she dumb af and the cost was my beloved franchise of star wars to prove it
I just want to point out how horrendous the scene of Osha getting the vision in Smilo's helmet is. She only goes to Brendok because she sees a vision of herself on Brendok. She has no other motivation for being there, besides that she will be there. The writers are so ham-fisted and incompetent that the only way they could get the climax of the season to happen was by very unsubtly reaching through the fourth wall and telling their aimless protagonist "hey, go here next," unwittingly creating an in-universe causality loop in the process.
This show has revolutionized writing for movies and television by implementing the "go here to do this" mechanic many video games have. All it was really missing was a quest marker or guiding line showing up in front of the characters
Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Bazil The Convenient? I thought not. It’s not a story the Jedi would tell you. It’s a Sith legend. Dark Lord of the Sith, so powerful and so convenient he could use the Force to influence the midichlorians to bend plot… He had such a knowledge of the dark side that he could even make the ones he cared about die. The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be convenient. He became so powerful… the only thing he was afraid of was losing his power, which eventually of course, he didn't, conveniently. Unfortunately, he taught his apprentice everything he knew, then his apprentice convinienced him in his sleep. Convenient. He could save others conveniently, but himself.
I'm currently playing around with AI, and every story an AI produced for me so far was way more coherent, thoughtful and insightful. Even more emotional. No, these hack writers have managed to somehow be worse than AI.
AI tends to tap into the way that a whole lot of people do things. It has a sort of ersatz version of “the wisdom of crowds.” This sort of writing is so distinctively wrong that unless the AI is fed only similar dreck as examples, it will not produce it.
@@olafgurke4699 You are playing with AI that is public released in 2024. This screenplay is from 2 to 4 years ago. AI wasn't always what you are playing with right now.
Lightsaber bleeding is stupid, and it's an example of the world-building being completely at war with itself. Excessive longness incoming. When Star Wars was an original idea, Darth Vader's lightsaber was a unique artifact. It was red because it was part of the black/red motif he'd crafted, and it did signify him as the evil character in his duels with Luke and Obi-wan. But "red" doesn't inherently have an evil quality in universe or out, people can just like the color red. There was no reason to make the red lightsaber anything other than a personal preference of Vader, or an image he intentionally cultivated. But then Lucas came along with The Phantom Menace in 1999, when he was probably biting off more than he could chew from a writing and world-building perspective since he had just come off of the special edition releases of the original trilogy. So Darth Maul shows up, and his lightsaber is also red because Lucas didn't think too hard about it. Maul also wore black and he's representing the same kind of evil that Vader represented, but with no personal connection to him. Red doesn't have to be a specific color chosen by evil people, but it's the one we've seen evil people use. So when he makes his next movies, we once again see that the evil force users-Dooku and Palpatine-also wield red lightsabers. And there's no explicit reason as to why, just the meta narrative reason that red is the color of evil force users in the universe of Star Wars. Why? Whether you intentionally create a rule or not, the stuff you demonstrate in your story suggests at rules. Since all dark force users have red lightsabers, it's clearly a rule, so what's the in-universe rule? The OLD explanation was that, since the Jedi are the legitimate face of Force users in the galaxy and have the backing of the Republic, the only sources of Kyber Crystals, used in the production of lightsabers, were under Jedi/Republic control. In order for Sith to create lightsabers, they had to make synthetic crystals, which were all consequently red due to the process required to manufacture them. This mostly works, with the exception of Vader, the original source of the red lightsaber idea, since he would have had access to any Kyber Crystal he wanted as the arm of the emperor in control of the whole galaxy. Bleeding is an inherent contradiction. The Sith are intentionally hiding their presence from the Jedi. They hide and operate in the shadows because the Jedi would like to wipe them out for being evil. However, it is somehow important in their beliefs that they use a specifically identifying weapon, a red lightsaber. It's a uniform. A uniform for people who intentionally don't want to be recognized. It's like spies intentionally dressing up in army uniforms bearing specific country flags, it undermines their whole objective. They should want lightsabers that are specifically NOT red so they don't give themselves away, and can masquerade as Jedi if it becomes necessary. Or else they want to pretend they just found a random lightsaber and have no force affiliation at all, if they're caught with one. But bleeding takes a rule, puts it in contradiction to the world-building, and thus sets the world-building at war with itself. It's incredibly poorly thought out, which is why it's ridiculous to see people arguing whether or not the Acolyte even did it right or not. It's stupid from inception.
"Darth" is just Vader's first name. In A New Hope, all the astromech droids are "R2 units". Later they come up with an entire series from R1 to R7, but because R2D2 is a main character, the R2 model is the bestest ever and everyone in the Galaxy wants one even if it's ostensibly obsolete. He's the Windows 7 of droids.
I believe there was also some stuff about how Jedi meditate to find the correct, natural crystal for themselves, something that resonates with them, aka, takes time and effort. So it fits that the Sith would just manufacture them instead, take a shortcut to power, as it were. I also don't think it contradicts with Vader because, sure, he COULD have had any color he wanted, but by that point, this is established as the tool of the evil guys, including Sheev, so he'd keep it. Especially as red is a "scary" color so it would amplify the fear factor, compared to a calming blue or something.
I just want to say - as a psych major in undergrad - I can hear Freud and Lacan in so much of what Hedland writes and says in the Acolyte, especially when she explains her decisions in the story. Freud really tapped into lefty intellectuals sexual frustrations and trauma as a way of explaining (projecting) human nature, usually by copying and remixing superior moral tales and lessons from Greek and Roman mythology into tales of social criticism and sexual repression. The irony that the coke-fiend guy who came up with "Penis Envy" to explain all the frustrations men have towards women in society, has been so influential in how feminists understand movies, literature, politics, culture etc is kind of funny in retrospect. Nowhere is this more self-evident in the "Benevolent Sexism" justification Hedland uses to have Sol get force choked.
@@billjacobs521The irony is that Freud’s psychosexual theories primarily pertained to men, in addition his entire contribution to psychology has been largely written off as “misogynistic”… and yet nearly all of his theories on complexes and psychodynamics are conspicuously good at describing feminists like Leslie.
@@billjacobs521 Yes. I think a key to understanding Freud and Psychoanalysis that it's always, at root, just projection - it's why in academic psychology it has been pretty much dismissed as pseudoscience, but in literature and the arts in general that never happened. Penis Envy in theory is supposed to explain the things that women find frustrating about men, but in practice, it is really what Freud (as the representative of men) finds frustrating in women.
@@jeviosoorishas181Freud is a funny guy. Yes, half his psychological shit does feel like projecting, but then I go out into the world and find people who have kind of oedipius complexes.
@@silverprimus321boi9 I think this is what distinguishes myth from science. For instance, pretty much every tribe/ancient culture has a myth about how the sun came into existence and how it works, usually involving some kind of god helping to create it; and you look at it within the context of that culture and tribe only, you'd say, "Hmmm, I guess the myth is true." Mythology looks at the end result and makes a story to explain it that cannot be tested or experimented on. Basically, myths are a product of confirmation bias. Freud started this tendency in psychology to turn myths into science by making it sound "scientific"; in reality, psychoanalysis really should be called "Myth Science." So given your example, you might see this, but the "why" it occurs is what is mostly a product of unscientific thought, this is why so often much of what produced was projection, because he lacked the curiosity or rigor that science would impose on him, to only make conclusions based on what he could provide evidence for.
The only good thing about this series is that it's bringing us fresh LittlePlatoon videos. Thanks for your effort and saving us from having to watch it ourselves❤
It turns blue when you're happy, red when you're angry, green when you're sad, yellow when you're horny, and purple when you're about to fuck over the entire Jedi Order.
The multiple times Squid game gets interrupted about telling (OSHA/Mae) what happened is like Finn repeatedly telling Rey he has something to tell her. lol
One of the worst Star Wars shows and I really wish it was never made. The franchise deserves so much better than this, or the worst offerings under Kathleen and co.
I'm not a big Star Wars fan but I sailed the high seas to watch The Acolyte becuase I had a very strong suspicion that it would be. After seeing the entire thing I honestly think it's one of the worst TV shows ever. Not worst Star Wars show; worst show period. Everything in it was so bad and inept and the (ahem) "questionable morality" was just the icing on the cake.
I actually should thank Leslie and co… it was this show that gave me the epiphany that continuing to pay for Disney+ was an utter waste of money… SW & Marvel movie reruns + bad new content ≠ good ROI…
Welcome to the light, comrade. While I feel I should scold you for not seeing it sooner, the perception of Disney's blasphemy is subject to each and every one of us. I, myself, abandoned all things Star Wars / Disney right after the Kenobi finale. Instead, I just wish to express a deep sympathy for you. No doubt you have suffered greatly at the whims of Disney's defilement of all things good. But now you see the truth, and I wish you all the best out there in the world.
The same could be said for not realizing midwatch of Force Awakens, and signs even before that, but there is no point crying over the spilled milk of wasted time. I wish you all and those yet to see how much time may be saved by simply not bothering with modern Disney's hopeless nonsense.
@@AgentSmith1991 you’re 100% accurate. For me it was living with a cognitive dissonance that ultimately ended in a bitter realization… this thing that I loved and revered has been usurped by people that neither love nor care for what they now control (beyond financial gain). Worse still, they have a visceral disdain and contempt for it, and view their only job as destroying its legacy. Sad 😢… worse, they are undermining their own greed.
You should check out the screen rant explanation for why Anakin's lightsaber didn't turn red. No joke, they said the whole reason that lightsaber stayed blue was because it's blue when Luke gets it.
The girl commits a heinous crime and gets away without any repercussions... Write what you know right Leslye?
She def has some dirt on KK..i don't know how else she could get the showrunner job for a star wars show
B...But she's a girl, and girls good! Men bad!
@@michaelbrickey-mt9zb honestly i don't think that's the case. I think she was handed the Job because 'The Acolyte' is frankly exactly what Kennedy always hoped to turn Star Wars in to. She was hired on the basis of her gender and sexuality because Kennedy wanted the photo ops with just that kind of person.
The thing you have to remember about Weinstein is all of his sins were an open secret in Hollywood for decades. Nobody who's been working in the movie industry since the 1990s was unaware of what a scumbag he was. They also didn't care, because he was making them money. They only turned on him to avoid being caught up in the witch hunt themselves.
it's not really a question of what Headland knows, it's that deep down people like Kennedy legitimately don't care.
@@petriew2018Doesn't blaming Weinstein turn you into a feminist, and thus part of the problem? He was the only man in the room, surrounded by harpies who eventually swooped in for the kill... not a story the Jedi would tell you.
- Adûnâi
@@petriew2018 you're totally right. For a second I was assuming people got their jobs due to performance lol
A murderer's slate is wiped clean because she claims she doesn't remember anything.
A person throws her friend under the bus to cover her own keester after his death.
A young woman starts a relationship with the man who murdered several people because he has a nice shaft.
Truly, a Sith wrote this show.
Sith AI 👀
You meant - shith, I'm sure.
You forgot via her relationship that prior to the guy, she had feelings for the Jedi girl. Never mind how it effects her sexual identity, but if yiu fall for someone and then someone kills tgat person I'm not sure how fast I'd downshift to a new romance.
I will say this- If someone has their memory removed, and a large part of their personality with it, are they even the same person anymore? She shouldnt be held accountable if she cant even remember osha anymore lol
Written by a leftist activist who has an inverted moral compass
Platoon's full commitment to the Occupational Safety and Health Administration gag is greatly appreciated
He is a man of sheer commitment and focus!
I don't even remember their real names now. Squid game. Occupational Safety and Health Administration. I just know his names for them.
The way he repeated it throughout with no change in inflection is truly impressive.
I watch this show through him so to me that's her name 😂
I'm convinced that's solely responsible for the 3 hour runtime. :D
That final interview segment with Headland really shows just how self centered she is. A father's love is all about control? A daughter has to reject it to be herself?
Headland is a self-centered, self-righteous, narcisistic sociopath. Her talking like she has any sort if moral high ground is not only absurd, it's insulting
Really shows fatherless behaviour
@@banyakakal4299 This is far beyond that. This is unironically evil.
@@billjacobs521 The pupil learned well from her master it seems.
Definitely
i mean she was harvey weinsteins assistant for years, she was giving him coffee while he was fucking underage 15 year old girls at his desk for parts and she didn't say anything what did you expect, it takes a certain type of evil to do something like that
Every time I see/hear/am reminded that Leslye refers to the end of the show as "Osha's triumph", it makes my skin crawl. This means that the showrunner's idea of triumph is unequivocably falling to evil, turning to the dark side, murdering an innocent man who loved and protected and tried to teach you, and going off hand-in-hand with the multiple murderer who killed your alleged previous love interest, attempted to murder both you and your sister, and kidnapped you while you were unconscious. Help me out here, because I don't see a single triumphant syllable in all of that.
Look up what Leslye thinks of father figures and their desire to protect their daughters.
@@GeraltofRivia22 Something tells me... I don't want to.
It's the feeling of elation and triumph a very foolish teenage girl feels when she ditches her loser dad and runs off to be with her super-cool drug-dealer boyfriend.
@@wishingwell12345 Until the 'super cool, drug-dealing boyfriend' either ditches them or 'suggests' they use their 'abilities' on the Strip.
The show is fanfiction made by one of those weird girls that used to spend all day in Tumblr, simple as that.
The hilarity turned into dread when you find out that all of the sexual references aren't just Platoon's genius, but also a reflection of Leslye's real interpretation of all things Star Wars.
I thought I was just making dark jokes, but it turns out it’s actually the writers’ head canon.
@@TheLittlePlatoon All those quotes were appalling; I can be one hell of a degenerate, sure, but the lens through which she seems to interpret art (and make her own) is disgustingly perverse!
@@ThePopcultureman she did work for Weinstien, so no surprise there
@@ThePopcultureman if you know what to look for, it becomes apparent that Freud must have been onto something with penis envy. Women seem to always need to prove they are better than men; and yet this very show points out that ultimately they are brought to heel by a ripped dude with psychopathic tendencies. Worrying to say the least
@@ThePopcultureman 100% agree. Hearing those quotes, was about the most real life evil monologue I've ever hear. She is Evil and proud of it.
I find it funny that Osha has a vision where she thinks Mae is killing Sol in a dark cloak outfit but then she chooses to wear that exact same outfit and doesn’t even realize
Or doesn't care.
Considering Lesley herself confused the two of them, its not surprising.
Not just Sol who can't tell the difference
@@GeraltofRivia22 On plenty occasions. Mae´s familiarity with service droid, Osha´s force powers and fight ability ...
Well this is because they aren’t characters with opinions and personality, but a plot device, which doesn’t think or use logic, just do what the writers want…
It's extra hilarious given that the main defense shills of this show have is
"you don't understand, this show is presenting the bad guys winning as a bad thing, it's a sad ending"
But Leslie has since just come out and all but implied the ending IS a good ending because of Sol's "benign sexism" and called Osha's arc a "positive corruption arc".
Which is mad.
Sol the guy who wanted to turn himself in but was convinced not to by a woman has "benign sexism"? Yeah sure that makes sense. Also his direct commander is a woman and both of his padawans were girls...
EXACTLY...this is the kind of show that makes you believe in conspiracy theories and the illuminati for how blatantly it loves the concept of Evil and Evil people
If I recall correctly, Lesbian Headlamp stated that she did the Plagueis cameo near the beginning, instead of at the very end. This way, Plagueis' scene wouldn't overshadow "Osha's moment of triumph."
Edit: I found the article and the quote from Star Wars News Net.
"“Plagueis was always in the finale, in every version. There was a version where he was the button of the finale [instead of Yoda]. You want to feel Osha’s triumph. You want to feel her joining forces with The Stranger. Plagueis stepped on [that moment]."
“I was OK with having the cameo come so early if it meant I could wrap up these characters in a way that their final shot was not a, ‘And he’s been pulling the strings the whole time’ feeling.”
@@zogwort1522 no, it means gentle and kindly. Taking in the phrase "benign sexism" Leslie is saying that Sol was patronizing in a misogynistic way, which means it was okay for Osha to kill him.
So the Acolyte’s themes can really just be boiled down to “fuck you dad, I’m gonna be evil”
Daddy Issues!
@@jacquelineking5783 ✨️ Daddy issues! ✨️
The entirety of progressive ideology can be boiled down to "mad at dad," psychologically. Seriously.
Thanks for saving me 3 hours of boring commentary
That seems to be exactly what she is saying.
Last night, my wife and I spent about 2 hours at an Outback steakhouse discussing the finer points of character, motivation, and plot for the second draft of a fantasy story we're co-writing.
I didn't mention it at the time, because I didn't want to ruin the mood of lively and intelligent literary conversation, but it did occur to me that just one such session in any Disney writer's room would have fixed so many problems with shows like this one.
Imagine that. Two hours conversation, less than $100 worth of food and drinks. And they can't even put in that much effort....
I'm curious to know what your fantasy story is about
Subbed
Because the house of mouse knows people will watch anyway so why bother making it good when they'll still print money
I used to think that a few D&D sessions would benefit the average Disney writer tremendously. I have been proven terribly, terribly wrong.
Disney productions mosty hire brainless spineless moralles writers that can't do a single thing right, because apparently either Disney doesn't want to work with good writers, or good writers don't want to work with Disney.
The kinds of people Disney hires just don't benefit from criticism, suggestions or explanations. In order to do that, they'd have to go through an extraordinate amount of character development, and they're not willing to do that.
That's great man! I've also gone in a similar direction with writing my own book, except my wife is being my critic and editor of sorts to make sure the plot stays coherent 😂 I wish Disney had hired you two for this show, writers with brains are becoming a rare breed indeed!
Its so funny how Lesley herself destroyed any possible good faith attempts at defending this. Her interviews make it abundantly clear how evil it is.
EXACTLY...this is the kind of show that makes you believe in conspiracy theories and the illuminati for how blatantly it loves the concept of Evil
She is on camera, along with her “wife”, admitting that they identify as Sith. Her “wife” even quips it’s because “I’m evil”. These people know what they are, they are proud of it, and are not afraid at all to admit it. They think it’s perfectly fine and “cool” as Amandla Stenberg says in the very next statement.
They are the real possessors of “privilege” because they can be openly celebratory of evil without any accountability whatsoever.
I’ve heard it from their own mouths, on camera. And until they are punished for their wickedness, it will only get worse.
They make it abundantly clear how evil she and her “wife” admit to being. Literally saying, “Because I’m evil.”
I was thinking the same thing. The interviews prove that the show didn't just come out a mess in editing or something, but that she deliberately pushed for evil. I don't like using the word "evil" flippantly either, but I don't know what else to call it. She literally thinks murdering your father because he's protective of you is justified. She thinks the personal freedom to do anything, including murdering people, is the highest goal, not just for her but for most people, that it's relatable. And her justification for all of this is because she has a pathological fear of being mildly disliked for being a lesbian. In LA. In Hollywood. She is an absolutely despicable human being, and should be locked away where she can't do any harm.
I don't think "interviews" or "meta-content" should really have any impact on the source material. Bill Cosby may be a rapist, and I can hate him for that but still enjoy the Cosby show. Anything should be able to stand on its own merits and stand up to scrutinization.
I guess Osha forgot that she "loved" Pip the droid. She doesn't bother getting him back from May. She doesn't even notice him at all, it seems.
Pip got a factory reset by Mae.
Mae got a factory reset by Smilo Ren.
It's like poetry, it rhymes.
Lol
@Rogue-a-Pogue I love, when story uses a good old hentai trope of "mind break"
Pip did piss in OSHA's face during her epic kung fu fight with Mae, so maybe OSHA gave up on Pip after that?
@@dismaltenedor3979 But Pip pissed on Bazil and they were suddenly best buds. I tihnk Pip just pisses on people he likes.
It's kind of brilliant, really - Headland heard about the "unreliable narrator" plot technique and thought to herself "I could apply that concept at the writing staff level!"
I bet she applied the "unreliable narrator" in the court room so it makes sense she'd learn to use it elsewhere
Just one problem - the “unreliable narrator trope requires competent writers to make it work: once the writers themselves become unreliable in creating the narrator as a character, the story breaks down…
The Bottom Line: Mickey Mouse has been mugged and raped by Disney Executives.
I just love that Osha lets every one else explain away their reasons for hours at a time, forgives them instantly. Gets a vague confirmation of guilt from Sol he killed her mother and chokes him to death before he can finish speaking. She watched Smilo cut down her former Jedi friends and is his best friend in the next scene. Not only does she let him speak, she lets him take a bath and casually cook her dinner afterwards.
oh yea i dont understand the character motivations at all
It's a 'Right of conquest' psychological phenomenon. Young, somewhat impressionable/naive girl watches a dude who is physically and mentally stronger than any other dude she's ever met exert his power and will on her clearly weaker cohorts (that typically adhere to opposite beliefs and moral alignments than him) through force. This visceral display of dominance inexplicably makes her drawn to him and compels her into thinking that she's 'his' now, not necessarily as property, but because he has proven through martial prowess to be a tremendous step up from the current clique she belongs to. A historical example would be Cu Cuhlain, basically the Irish Hercules, wanting to marry this princess but the King refuses. Feeling completely disrespected Cu Cuhlain destroys his castle, wipes out his army, and conquers his kingdom. At which point the princess, utterly infatuated by this tough and crazy bastard, practically throws herself on him and so begins a long, happy marriage between the two(sort of).
Now you would think that as a staunch feminist Lesbian Headlamp would find this kind of scenerio barbaric and the absolute pinnacle of toxic masculinity. You would think but....
You mean *Occupational Safety and Health Administration
It's especially bizarre considering she told her long lost sister that the jedi were more her family than she ever was in the episode right before she falls for the guy who killed her jedi friends.
@@theadaptationstationmaster Which she allowed to explain away all their back story, and spent hours/days with them. Couldn't give Sol 5 minutes to explain himself before killing him.
I have never thought that a creator of bad media was evil until now. Holy shit, that interview with Headland revealed a soul as black as pitch. The woman truly is evil. I just don't see any other way to explain the way she views things. This isn't a case of judging an author by their characters, this is the author herself saying her evil as fuck characters are moral and good.
Well, it would explain how she could work as an assistant to that one person...
@@GusBried I'm not going to second that because I think it is possible to be willfully blind to evil going on around you. It's not a good luck but it doesn't make you the same as them. That one person's other former assistants have mostly come out and admitted he was suspicious but not that he openly admitted to them what he was doing, so I don't think that alone says anything. The fact that she's the only one who, still, to this day, has maintained she never saw or heard anything remotely suspect is, however, rather suspect. But these interviews are just admissions.
Given her previous role as personal assistant to... If she wasn't part of the sisterhood you would've expected her to get cancelled.
Hate to be a black-piller but she isn’t the exception in her line of work in 2024. She is the rule.
She was his personal assistant. She would not have been able to be blind to what happened. Especially when it was an open secret that there was a joke about it in I think 30 Rock. This is not surprising in the least.
So it’s ok for Smilo Ren to murder all of OSHAs Jedi friends and it’s ok for OSHA to murder Mr squid game? And it’s ok for Fanny Mae to kill trinity and Tommen?
Since it’s portrayed to be all a good thing apparently.
But it’s not ok for mr squid game and company to mistakenly kill the scary Smokey demon witch and company?
Double standards much? So apparently the Sith are good and the Jedi are evil?
The Jedi may be deeply flawed but that does not make the Sith the good guys.
I would Say this for the other shows, they at least were not on the side of the mass murdering Sith and could tell who the good guys are. Even if those show where deeply flaw, they at least had some level of undertanding and respect for the franchise
@@juanfranciscovillarroelthu6876 yeah as bad as the other shows and movies were, at the very least they could tell good from evil, aka the most basic aspect of Star Wars.
@@GeraltofRivia22 Even with Reva?
@@MegaSpideyman good point, it was so bad I forgot about it.
This is Hollywood culture now. The people dominating it have no moral compass beyond "me and what I like good, you and what I hate bad."
I always knew Occupational Safety and Health Administration was unironically evil.
Never trust someone who can't show emotions. lol
No just stupid.
I'd like to see a supercut of all the times he says that name. It'll be 20 minutes long!
Any organization that tells me I can't joust with the pallet jacks deserves the adjective of 'evil.'
@jamesgrose510 if you only knew the amount of paperwork I have had to fill out in my career for idiots doing idiot things on pallet jacks.
Did you hear about the story of Darth Creeper The Hard? I thought not, it's not something the sane would tell you. He spent his life in a cave, looking at young women and their lovers. He explored his anatomy thoroughly. He gripped his lightsaber--tightly. Ironic, he could make himself come, but never others.
Cum again?
Carry on...
You've got my lightsaber throbbing
He might not be so ironic after all
I do have to ask but what were all those young women and their lovers doing in his cave?
That seems both really rude and intrusive and extremely fortuitous for someone named creeper
What the hell. lol
Comparing Mae to gollum is really unfair to Gollum. Yes, Gollum does switch between motives quite a bit but a) not nearly as often or as rapidly as Mae and b) Gollum switching between Motives has a proper explanation that makes sense. He is severly psychologicaly damaged from centuries of complete isolation in a cave system in total darkness while being corrupted by the one ring. That has lead him to develop a second personality, essentially a coping mechanism to deal with the loneliness and also a personality that can do the things neccesary to survive that his primary personality couldn't cope with. Gollum is a tragic character not a tragedy of a character.
But is the one ring more corrupting than Hollywood? I'm not so sure.
Plus Gollum's whole motivations are pretty clear, they're just in conflict with each other and that conflict of motivation is expressed through his personalities. "Smeagol" is mostly motivated by wanting to be good to Frodo to cling on to the one bit of kindness he's known in centuries (and allows him to express his subconscious hatred for the Ring and what it has done to his life), "Gollum" wants to get the Ring back and return to a life of endless solipsistic self-absorption. Since Frodo carries the Ring there is irreconcilable conflict in these motivations, which is played out in Gollum's discussions with himself and reflective of which motivation is stronger at the time. What you said is also accurate, but I just wanted to point out how Gollum's personalities are used so well in both book and movie specifically to avoid this problem and clarify Gollum's motivations so it doesn't come off to the audience like he's just doing random things based on what the writer wants to happen. Definitely not remotely like Mae just switching her motivations on a dime for no clear reason. I mean, I think that like with Gollum they probably wanted to portray uncertain and conflicted motivations for Mae, but that requires writing beyond the Acolyte's capabilities and acting beyond Amandla's abilities.
In 2023, feminist author Elise Loehnen published a book entitled "on our best behaviour, the 7 deadly sins and the price women pay to avoid them."
In this book she argues that pride, lust, gluttony, sloth, wrath, envy and greed are not sins at all. That the evil Christian patriarchy just convinces women these things are sinful in order to oppress them, for example convincing women not to be "slothful", to go and work on behalf of others (how terrible that would be), and how convincing women greed is bad contributes to the gender pay gap (the apparently %55 gender pay gap according to said author).
Rather than avoiding sins, Women should think of greed, lust, etc as virtues and try to embrace them as much as possible in their daily lives.
So, it's not surprising that in this sort of moral climate, we now get a version of Star wars which literally celebrates evil, and attempts to portray the forces of good as horrible oppressors!
Weirdly, isn't greed also the reason for employers not giving female employees higher salaries? So... still a sin? LOL
@@theadaptationstationmaster Ah, but you forget, they're still sins for men! at least if they oppress women!
It's only women that need to embrace the sinful lifestyle, men need to show as much virtue as possible; well towards women anyway.
It's just like in the acolyte, May's attempted murder of her sister and her actual murders of the Jedi are all absolutely fine! but having all those poor oppressed smoke demon witches die while trying to possess and/or attack people? No! that is bad and wrong and someone needs to pay the ultimate price!
That's why Smilo ren gets to be an honorary woman! Since he's obviously been oppressed by the evil sithist Jedi, and anyone oppressed needs to commit more sins!
Jesus Christ!
@@DEATH-THE-GOAT I would guess this feminist writer doesn't think much of him either.
I mean "love thy neighbour as thyself", I bet that oppresses women as well :D.
I wonder if the end chapter of her book touches upon the feminist reality of dying alone in which your 25 starving cats eat your face off before neighbours notice the foul smell? 😂
In 2024 intelligent scientists created "Goldene" - the worlds thinnest gold structure, a sheet only one atom thick. Later in 2024 complete morons created an even thinner structure, the Acolytes plot and consistency. How you extracted such structured cogent analysis from such a mess TLP, I have no idea. Well done and thankyou for the huge amount of recent brilliant content. Go get some well earned rest !
It really is amazing how hard it is to express what's wrong with the show. There's so much wrong with it on a fundamental level that you constantly have to EFAP to explain the issues and it just keeps piling up and up. Every problem has at least five other problems that are directly connected to it that you have to explain at the same time.
Just remember that in the EU holding a lightsaber to someone's skin was used as a form of torture. But Osha doing it to Smilo is just chilling like it's a cold blade.
They melt thru blast doors, for heaven's sake.
I automatically thought European Union instead of expanded universe. That was confusing.
It actually functions the first way in ep7 as well, as it burns Tommen.
I know enough Star Wars lore to have an explanation for that but this show doesn't deserve the effort
@@DuplexWeevil337 It’s in the Geneva Suggesions.
@@TheLittlePlatoon ah my bad, I haven't subjugated myself to watching this - just the reviews
It's actually hilarious how Osha, Mae and Qimir all at the end are supposed to appear as triumphant heroes against flawed and terrible Jedi as if they didn't all commit murder, Qimir mass murder and its playing triumphant music as if we're supposed to side with them. Holy unscalable cringe.
Remember: these are the "good guys"
It almost physically hurt when they finally found each other, hugging and crying. I almost internally screamed, they are bad people. Why is it here, it is so out of place!
@@dontbeorbeevil yeah, that was truly the trifecta of fecality (the "trifecality," I call it; also plan to use this as the name for when & if the colossal cuntretempacity of this colonic catastrophe actually causes a killin')
ahem.
it was a trifecality, as I was saying, because:
→ The girl can't act; I wouldn't buy it even if the story had earned it, I'm afraid.
→ As you say, this is the triumph of evil. Why u playin' this as if we might even tear up a little bit, Lesley*? That's mega cringe, and no joke...
→ Even in-universe, from their own perspectives, this isn't the culmination of sh!t. Siblings who never got along, never seemed to feel the lack of the other, didn't even get along when reunited - nor even CARE, apparently, sometimes...
(...and, of course, from our perspective it means nothing, as well - just as little as it was to the characters, so little was it made meaningful or anticipatory to the audience.)
_*(not checking spelling of name, in a tiny act of defiance-)_
You can have a show about evil characters. It isn't new by any stretch. But you cannot have a show about badly written evil characters. At least not one people will like. And doubly so when the evil characters are supposed to be the "good guys". Having evil characters think themselves as heroes would be interesting. But that isn't what we got. We got the creators thinking the evil badly written characters are heroes.
I dont even know if its ironic how Leslye sees everything as sexual, parenting as benign sexism and multiple horrible crimes in the name of freedom and justified because sexism and how the character with whom she identified the most is a serial felon who MUST be forgiven because "reasons" even though whatever squid games did could also apply to a mother trying to protect a daughter, freedom does not entail freedom to kill and wants do not equal moral justification to do whatever and then be forgiven because the father of your apprentice lied, the final scene of them hand holding whispers "Im sorry I kill your girlfriend and friends but I was feeling judged by people with different morals" and then she says "k"
She worked for Harvey Weinstein. Are we really that shocked she thinks like this?
I'm sick and tired of 'artists' venting their daddy issues, be it like this or through characters.
Since when did the word "parenting" get changed to "benign sexism"???? They know most mothers try to protect their adult sons and daughters too right???? What is happening....
And now that Platoon has had his say, I can stop thinking about this series forever.
Memory: Acolyte deletion progress: 84%
The Acolyte? What's that, never heard of it
Send it to the memory hole landfill with Kenobi, Ahsoka, Boba-fet and whatever other nonsense I can't remember.
Force mind wipe it from your memory.😁
Until season 2 😂
I cant wait for Bazil to face off against Yoda with his tiny red lightsaber
Only if it ends with Yoda making a fur coat out of that little gremlin
@@scottski02 i thought of a lightsaber holster
Now I’m imagining both of them flipping off walls and it makes for a better show than anything in The Acolyte.
@@S1nwar Gophers vs Goblins: A Star Wars Story
Only if it's Baby Yoda.
Wild how the acolyte of an evil person wrote a convoluted story where the "good" twin becomes the acolyte of an evil person while the bad twin is "redeemed" by merely turning away from said person. Oh and also the story features multiple cover ups lol
You know what they say, "write what you know"
The 4 Jedi masters dying and then trying to keep it a secret would be impossible. Think of it as being in the military. You have a company with four platoons, and one day, all four PSG were just gone. Everyone would ask questions and spread rumors.
This is the problem with taking the Star Wars universe, created in the 1970s when instant worldwide communication wasn't a thing, and then trying to make it look as if it's 2024. People would wonder why Trinity and whatever the other dead Jedi were called weren't returning their holocalls any more.
@@wishingwell12345
To be fair this is a mistake of old SW that made comunications instantaneous and ftl way too strong.
Of course Disney inflated this problems but I would still say that is a problem with the setting.
Headland's distaste for fathers is so obsessive. You are not okay, my girl, go to therapy and try again later.
Good sir, you are the final word on this abominable series. Thank you for your service to humanity.
the best joke ever said about this show is “even in a galaxy far far away black kids don’t have a father”
i guess the force went out for a pack of menthols
NEWPORTS, MU'FUKKK'UH, GET IT RIGHT!
@progunil well Mae and Osha are Black&Mid
*badumtish*
And they weren’t abandoned by their dad who “went out for smokes,” they were abandoned by their mom who turned into smoke. And then never tried to contact her kids ever again.
Every single comment to this comment is Olympic Games level shitposting on par with the comment under which they are commenting on. 😘🤌🏻💋 💋💋💋💋😆🥇🥇🥇🥇annnnnd 🥇
@@TheNoonish the real question was if horny lezbo turned into a menthol or bold flavored smoke monster
I always imagined she turned into kool or virginia slims menthol smoke monster.
My God. I wish so hard, that Lesley got interviewed by someone who isn't just a mindless drone. I don't need to see her get trampled in discussion, however satisfying that would be. I just want her to get a MINIMAL amount of pushback, to explain how exactly Smilo Ren has moral highground, or why she didn't even bother with the concept of time, making so that intergalactic travel is akin to stepping into the room nearby. I think that would have been so informative and enlightening and could have shed skme light on the general Hollywood fuckery. That, of course, will never happen, but a calm, collected and respectful interview by someone from, let's call it "opposite side" would do SO MUCH GOOD.
Also I don't believe for a second she loves or even likes Star Wars. That whole show seemed like an extremely expensive vendetta against... I don't even know... Male population as a whole? Christianity and morality? Writing in general? George Lucas? Disney? Kennedy herself?
Today I watched a video on Last Jedi by Nutsa and she made a very interesting point: the reason any coverage of Last Jedi is so emotional and aggressive (compared to many other bad movies) is that Rian Johnson couldn't have made so many bad choices if he didn't knew what decision were RIGHT, so it comes off as spiteful and the audience FEELS, that something is not right, that the whole think stinks of spite, disregard and even outright hatred to the viewers. I can't shake that feeling, when watching Acolyte covereges (mainly your own, but also some others, like EFAP crew). How the hell can NOTHING make sense? Not motivations of any character, world building, power levels, causality, even the concept of passage of time? Not to mention more ethereal concepts like ethics, morality and faith (we still have zero clue what the witches actually were). It all seems too wrong to not have been done on purpose. At some point you can't keep invoking incompetence if malice becomes so apparent. Of course that invites a more pressing question:
How exactly was that allowed to happen?
Lesley's answers in her interview show that she doesn't even know her own work. WHY was she allowed to sink 180 million dollars in what amounts to not an incompetently made, but ultimately passionate project by someone way over their head, but more akin to a spiteful manifesto against... Something. It's just too competent in its horribleness.
I'm sorry, but I have one more thing to add to this wall of text. Who exactly does Lesley have by the balls to make this all happen? And if blackmail is afoot, then why not use it to make something you genuinely enjoy, a passion project, something you will pour your heart into and even if you don't succeed, it's visible, that you TRIED, that it meant something to you and ultimately is made with good intentions. Why waste a good blackmail to create something so oozing with hatred to source material and to whoever held up hope for this project?
Acolyte hurt EVERYONE involved with it. From the showrunner and her wife, through writers, actors, music producers, effects people, and even the viewers (if you don't count salaries, of course). WHY waste resources on something so incomprehensively terrible?
I'm not sure how much fo the show she even wrote--she appears to not even know many of the details of the show, like she's having to grope for explanations just like the audience is. It seems like she wrote certain scenes and details (the morally reprehensible ones) and then other people wrote the rest without her.
@@billjacobs521 Ostensibly, she should be the one who's job it was to make sure everything was consistent. Even if other people are writing it, she would be the one who would "conduct" them so the plot and characters work in harmony and from episode to episode. That is clearly not what happened.
I remember bleeding after trying to pass a kyber crystal out of my lightsaber hilt too. I need to drink more water.
Ouch! 😅
Three days. Been drinking more water?
You too? Mine was a caffeine accelerated crystal that you'd expect to have an orange glow, but mine was definitely Sith red at the blade discharge lens. Scared me back to the light side of clear fluids for a good while.
Edit some English doctor blew it up with a sonic screwdriver!
"Thats not how the Force works!"
That line is literally the ONLY thing good to come outta the sequel trilogy... because That line can be used in ALL Disney Star Wars shows.
Can't wait to see how they'll explain that everything is Jedi master squid game's fault for committing the crime of self defense against a woman who not only mind raped Jedi Twink but also was in the middle of turning into one of those Shazam movie shadow demons
They will just never mentioned any of that. It's what they've already done in this episode.
they won't. This crap ain't getting a season 2.
Season 2 is cancelled, so there is none (also Lesley clearly did not write this series)
$180 Million for this ? I'm not mad. I"m Jealous. How do I get in on this scam ?
Develop a taste for cheese pizza.
What good does it do a man for him to gain the whole world, but loose his soul?
@@DaMaster012
I mean it gets him $180 million dollars-
Deliver the victims then threaten to report the bodies.
Become a personal assistant to a rich, powerful predator. Then, while you work for him, gather lots of evidence on other rich and powerful people who were involved with him. After that, I'm sure you can figure it out.
@@anastasiawheeler111 I'd rather keep my soul.
Love how the rat radomly switches sides, despite having attacked May previously.
His character is really odd looking back at it, why does an outside character care so much that they are willing to pull wires out of the spacecraft they are in to stop a Jedi?
Why not, the “protagonist(s)” switch motivations within the same dialogue. Why should Danger Mouse be any different in the hands of these half-wit “writers”?
@@markgrehan3726He’s a Deus Ex Marmota. He can do anything with a scamper and a sniff.
@@scionofdorn9101 LOL!
@@markgrehan3726 Because the plot says so. The story is just a five year old playing with dolls.
(2:32:20) So, you wasted a perfectly good opportunity to call her LobotoMay.
Oh god damn it! How did I not see it?!
You know for a show that is, acccording to the showrunner, about the toxic side of a father-daughter bond. The worst parent on the show is the horned mother of the girls. Seriously she bullied 1 daughter into forcing another to stay, leading to the fire and when she sees her clearly scared daughter cry for help she prepares to attack the Jedi leading to an escalation. It would have been interesting had Mae been raised to believe that everything was her fault by her mother and she needed to avenge them. Of course that would be looking into the toxic side of a mother-daughter, with possible stage mom syndrome, and that's clearly out of the question.
"I'd rather die than abandon my children"
> Turns into a fart and flies away, abandoning her children
@@Lemon_InspectorThat's why I don't understand why Mae isn't more pissed off at her horny lesbian mother. She abandoned her daughters made them orphans, but somehow Sol is a bad guy for taking one of the girls in. WTF?
I cant believe writers got paid for this.
The same people who went on strike.... because they don't get paid enough
The production needs a full audit of where the $ 180 million went
Does ChatGPT get paid?
I guess that explains where the rest of the money went.
Believe it and let this sink in "Even in the revelation of our triumph, we see the depth of our despair," and further down the spiral we continue to descend...
Perhaps we can now begin the long process of forgetting this show ever existed
I need to forget Kenobi first, then ASSoka, then this one... There are a lot of shows I need to forget first. No wonder the Drinker drinks toilet duck...
Perhaps we where to harsh on the other shows
What show?
Till Season 2
Or we can just ask Smilo Ren to make us forget.
It's such a shame those face prosthetics prohibited Amandla Stenberg from emoting in this entire show.
Oh wait....
LOL!
😐
It's the butchery of Plagueis that hurts the most for me, even though the cleaver is still hanging in the air as far as the plot's concerned.
The obvious pathway from the Acolyte to the prequels is that Plagueis spends decades hiding from the Jedi in the darkest corners of the galaxy, takes the Topless Sith Wannabee under his wing, then betrays him after realising he and Occupational Safety and Health Administration (cracking gag BTW) are a major threat, and is then inspired by the Space Witches' act of creating life when he tries to create the Chosen One.
Using the character in this way is an act of theft and wanton vandalism of existing art. The Plagueis of the novel was, in his own words, an 'aged raspy-voiced yellow-eyed monster', but his ability to hide in plain sight using the Force was one of his greatest weapons, one that he used to glide through the corridors of power in the Republic as he manipulated events directly and indirectly. Most importantly, it was a skill that he nurtured in Palpatine so that his apprentice possessed it in spades. His skills in political subterfuge facilitated the moral collapse of the Republic and the election of Palpatine in the prequels, while his ability to manipulate the Force to achieve immortality was entirely the result of his own studies of life, which he performed with the briliance of 100 nuclear physicists and the ethical framework of a serial killer.
Together, these abilities and achievements justify his sobriquet of "The Wise" and explain why his death at Palpatine's hands, just as he appeared on the verge of achieving all his goals, is a "Tragedy".
All that has been discarded to drop him into a plot in which it appears his greatest skills will be: hiding in caves, manipulating Jedi dropouts, eavesdropping and stealing the ideas of a cult.
The only positive of this disgrace is that it has been so comprehensively rejected by viewers.
@@rmrm1229 the chosen one is anakin skyscraper himself
@@rmrm1229 about
A perimiter of 3km means she sent a handful of people to cover an area of between 7 and 28 miles.
Who’d have thunk that Disney would end up as a fertilizer factory existing only to help nurture video crops for hordes of RUclipsrs. Now we reap the harvest.
It surely has happened before, but thanks to the scale of the internet, the scale of careers kickstarted by shit media is surely far greater. I could see documentaries being done about it in the future.
*Cue Zack Snyder's slow mo grain porn medley*
I am convinced people defend this show because they see a certain group of people they don't like also don't like the show, means they must like and defend it out of principle than genuine interest
That, and just being simps for Disney/Star Wars. And the fact that there is always a percentage of people who will like literally any talking pictures you show them--I think the lights and sounds are hypnotic to these people.
Those same people have been conditioned to believe that if they don't like this stuff, they're bigots. They like it out of fear, not love.
Thank you for calling out the "Hang on Pip!" in the planetary ring chase! That line took me completely out of the scene. Why would she say that? That's not her droid. She has no emotional connection to it. Nor has she talked to it before except to ask it if it can do a diagnostic on the ship power or something. I don't think she even knew it's name. AND how is it supposed to "hang on"? It made me immediately think this scene is supposed to be Osha escaping. Not Mae (dressed as Osha). Which made me convinced the whole switcharoo with the twins was an afterthought added later in reshoots. The show stinks of rewrites, reshoots and reshuffling of episodes to try to make it work. Ironically, that explains so much how difficult this show is to follow and make sense and why the character's motives change constantly. And the budget!
That's a really good point.
Also, it was reset to factory settings, so does it even know that it's called "Pip"?
Or the writers just forgot. Could be that.
It matches with how the ‘twins’ act as well. As Osha-as-Mae acts like evil Mae much of the time. I can easily believe the actress had no idea which twin she was supposed to be playing in each scene and since her direction came from the script/headland, well…. We see the result. (Also her sum total of one expression ‘constipated frustration’ doesn’t help the audience)
@@n7creed629 That makes sense it will be interesting to find out how badly this show was messed around before it was finally released.
Ah yes, Basil, the galaxy’s most convenient Deus Ex Marmota.
“Marmots are large ground squirrels in the genus Marmota. These herbivores are active during the summer, when they can often be found in groups, but are not seen during the winter, when they hibernate underground. They are the heaviest members of the squirrel family.
Marmots are large rodents with characteristically short but robust legs, enlarged claws which are well adapted to digging, stout bodies, and large heads and incisors to quickly process a variety of vegetation. While most species are various forms of earthen-hued brown, marmots vary in fur coloration based roughly on their surroundings.”
Mark my words, if this benighted series continues, Basil will turn out to be a Force/Sith Alchemy/Island of Doctor Moreau creation of Darth Plagueis doing his will because that would be dumb, convenient, nonsensical, and entirely in keeping with Disney’s incompetence.
For all we know, Basil too is a Sith. All hail Darth Rodentia the MacGuffin. Are we entirely sure his species, if he has one, isn’t MacGuffin? I’m going to assume it is.
was not expecting a Dr Moreau reference
@@darthgamer9861I have to admit, it’s probably too far fetched to presume the illiterate lemmings that wrote this show ever read that story, so even if I’m right, the parallel will have been entirely coincidental on their part and something they’ll pat themselves on the back for as “original and brilliant”.
I like think Yoda charged 180 million for permission to film the back of his head for a few seconds. Get that money 🤑 Yoda
LOL!
Little known fact, the reason TLP bats for the other team is because of a treason beaver
It was the chosen one. It was supposed to bring balance to the river, not leave it in darkness.
@@TheLittlePlatoonyou were my lover Basil!
Basil: Incoherent squeaks
I still find it odd that Wikipedia called Osha killing Sol a "mercy kill".
Wikipedia has a interesting pattern going.
By which I mean: the editors tend to be psycho activists.
@@contentsdiffer5958 i always laugh when Wikipedia e-begs to me. Why would I give you money when you abandoned any sense of impartiality and neutrality ages ago?
@@GeraltofRivia22 Absolutely spot on.
@@GeraltofRivia22 I completely agree. They no longer even pretend to be objective, and many pages have been trimmed and skimmed to an embarrassing extent.
@@user-zq6sz2cr6g Exactly.
BTW, Brendock is a habitable, even lush, M-class planet and, yet, in 16 years, nobody has bothered to claim it, let alone colonize it? Why?
Even though it’s of special scientific interest, and of special religious interest to the Jedi. Everyone just forgets about it. Though I’d not be surprised if Plagueis paid it a visit in S2.
Star Amazon doesn't deliver there
And there's no fiber internet
I don't remember if it was stated to be on the outer rim, but it sounds like it, and it's outside of Republic reach, so I'm not surprised that no group decided on a big, expensive colonization effort in 2 decades.
If it's not being viewed through a camera then it disappears from existence.
I can sorta justify it, the planet is supposedly in the middle of nowhere and long abandoned, outside republic space. It being lush and wonderful is all well and good but unless it has amazing natural resources to exploit there really isn't a reason to colonize such an out of the way area.
Now the fact the giant fortress is supposedly an old mining facility suggest there are resources worthy of exploiting on planet and at some point some people had an interest in living there.
There's really no words for it. The more I learn about the EU, combine it with Lucas' original works, and then compare it to this... Abomination and the "writers" intent behind it, and the fact that it's now canon... It truly is the destruction of Star Wars.
Queue the Obi-Wan scene from RotS.
"I can't watch anymore..."
"Light sabers are phallic"
Green bean has a whip which is a floppy light saber
Are you trying to tell us something Lesley??
I think we should coin the term "Smilos Lightsaber" as the opposite of Chekovs Gun - a symbol if you will, of how a show can show something and then completely forget it exists later on.
I like it, You should comment some examples from other media to help it stick
The opposite is a Red Herring. Something ordinarily introduced to trick or distract the audience but is of no importance or significance on the plot...
In this instance, because they forget about it, rendering it's effect on the story void.
A Red Herring of stupidy or "Accidental Red Herring", as I call it rather than of purpose 😂
Acolyte Cast -
Fannie Mae
Jedi Master Trinity
Occupational Safety and Health Administration
Pip (aka the Iphone)
Jedi Knight Yord VPN
Jedi Master Squid Game
Jedi Master Green Bean
Jedi Padawan Jekki Stardust
Smilo Ren
Jedi Master Tommen Baratheon
Temu Ezra
Jedi Padawn Chunngo Phatt
Jedi Master Kelnacca (aka Leslye Headland when she forgets to shave)
Horny Lesbian
Mother AnusEye
Bazil the convenience beaver
Jedi Knight Soybean wan keknowa
No no no you forgot that Temu Ezra has been upgraded
This was hilariously summed up. Thanks.
@@calli_cute_cat Yeah, he is now Premium Ezra Miller.
Lol. I love Little Platoon’s naming sensibilities
I also like "Treason Beaver".
Also, if the mindwipe brings her back to being 8 years old, why did she not remember the lines for the rhyme?
or literally anything else?
What I am baffled to discover through giving some thought to the points about the show's twisted morality is that the first thing I recalled was a scene from Monty Python's Life of Brian. It's a bit of a long shot, but bear with me.
In said scene, members of the People's Front of Judea (a name they are very particular about) are plotting to kidnap the wife of Roman governor Pontius Pilate for the cause of freeing Judea from Roman occupation. Before the plan is to begin, they have a final conversation where one of them decries the Romans taking their money through taxation, then asks "What did the Romans ever give us in return!?" obviously expecting the others to echo "Nothing!" as a rallying cry to raise morale.
Instead of that however, we get a hilarious scene of each group member calling out something else the Romans have done that has made life better/more convenient for the people of Judea. Building roads, aqueducts, developing infrastructure, medicine, education, wine, with the final member saying "they brought peace." The scene then ends with the one who posed the question saying "Alright, they've done all these things, but besides that, what have they given us?! Nothing!"
To me this is a perfect image of the blind and deaf hobby-revolutionaries we see nowadays. People who see a problem with authorities and authority figures purely because they are authority figures, establishing an idiotic "it has power so it must be evil" idea that other reasons can then be rallied behind. This 'deconstruction' of the Jedi reminds me of this exact thing as it devolves to inane mudslinging. And the way Leslye justifies making objective, pure evil win as a triumphant thing, it just reeks of someone who is either incredibly twisted herself or is merely spouting out hollow ideas without anything to stand behind them.
The way she presents the Jedi to try and demonise them while not showing them as having done anything clearly wrong just shows she expects the mere fact they are powerful to somehow garner the audience's contempt. From her point of view it seems, there is no reason to justify hating the Jedi because they are figures of authority and like the character in Life of Brian asks "What have the Jedi ever done for us?" She clearly expects people to just nod along and go "Nothing!" without ever bringing up all the objectively known and even implied and suggested heroic deeds the Jedi as a collective have done for the galaxy.
The villain side is also pretty telling because she expects us to look at The Stranger as an almost revolutionary figure without understanding why he is actually evil. The lines about him just wanting to practice the use of the Force ignore both the fact that the Jedi don't police the mere use of the Force (as there are several non-Jedi Force-user communities even during the era of the Clone Wars that the Jedi are just fine letting live and free) and the fact that The Stranger is practicing his "freedom" by murdering people and training others to murder people. And yet we are urged to just blindly nod along to the idea of "freedom" without understanding the context and exact details of that freedom being on offer.
This woman is suffering from the same exact brainrot that Monty Python was parodying 45 years ago...and she is celebrated for it...
1:08:00 'you did a deal with my sister and you expected her to uphold it. That's fair'.
Bahahahah, no way a human being wrote this line. I refuse to believe it.
"You ordered my sister to do something seemingly impossible and threatened to murder her if she failed--you are clearly trustworthy."
Bet she thought those "deals" she helped Harvey set up with young actresses were also fair.
@@billjacobs521 And, best of all, when she didn't 'kill a jedi without a weapon' (per the story nonsense), he didn't kill her. Thus, he actually isn't trustworthy, as he broke his deal.
@@GeraltofRivia22 Truly, we are in a renaissance of madness in entertainment
You can put lipstick ($180 million) on a pig (The Acolyte) and it's still just Disney Star Wars.
And a waste of good lipstick.
Harvey Weinstein got lipstick put on him many times and not just on the lips with the help of his assistant of course
@@verindictus3639and a waste of a perfectly tasty pig
How many of us cheered when we saw this and saw that it will run for 3 hours??? YES, Go, Platoon!
I think you mean YAS YAAAASS
@@MrEmpireBuilder0000 go Johnny Depp
They made Sol rather a r3tard; but he was still the only sympathetic character.
I think Jeckie managed to be sympathetic at least.
@@SpecterVonBarenI forgot she existed after she died
@@PersonallyPerhaps In fairness, so did the characters in the show.
Jeckie isn't unlikeable, although she's kind of a know it all and a brown noser. Qimir isn't sympathetic, but he's kind of like Christian Slater in Heathers. A likeable bad guy. Sol is okay, he's kind of a poosy and a pushover. He's a goodie goodie. Everyone else is pure shite.
Damn did Lee Jung-jae not know: you never go full r3tard
Im convinced they came up with the whole "two halves of one person" thing to get out of writing full characters. No no guys, she's bland and characterless because she's half a person! It was on _purpose_
"Bleeding" the crystal is stupid. It basically makes the light saber into a mood ring.
Using The Little Mermaid as a template, you can see the depth of Leslye"s myopic narcissm. She calls Ariel"s overprotection by a smothering father 'benign sexism' instead of the obvious "father hovering over his precious daughter." Leslye has no idea how it feels to bring up a child to adulthood.
Thats weird, you know? She has had a daughter born in May 2023. Of course you are right, she can't know how it is to bring a child to adulthood yet, but she should understand the concept of motherhood and how much protection of a child it involves. The fact, that she thinks over protectiveness should be resolved by MURDERING A PARENT is just insane
@@TheHalogen131 Correct.
@@TheHalogen131Ah but you see, protective MOTHERHOOD good. Protective FATHERHOOD is bad and toxic and controlling.
She probably would be okay with protective mothering. It is protective fathering that is the problem.
She doesn’t understand adulthood either.
Why is it important that the twins are the same person split between two bodies? How does it make a difference? It’s not like they end up melding together or anything.
Because they vergenced! They vergenced!!
Basically Lesley liked Amandla so much she used the twins excuse as a means to have her in the show as more than 1 character. Oh and stealing the force creation idea from George to justify her existence. You'd have an aneurysm trying to understand what is going on in that bint headlamps head.
And it's what a twin is to begin with. Identical twins are the same person that's been duplicated in the womb. They go on to become different in many ways thanks to experience but at the start, that's the definition of an identical twin to begin with.
Something something anti individuality, something something collective soul, something something post modernists are nothing but psychopaths possessed by the call of The Void who feel guilty for existing and resent God for creating them.
I think it's a non-binary/gender fluid thing.
Honestly, it's not possible to keep track of these insane ideologies.
I’m thinking Sol’s death is unintentionally messianic, in a sad kind of way. He forgave his killer as she killer him. (Like Jesus on the cross) His death bought everyone a way to avoid consequences of their actions. This part of the analogy is, of course, horrible broken - making it more consistent with the rest of the show. 😅
Just coming to my mind: Did anyone address that Smilo himself gave Mae the poison in episode 2, thus sabotaging the mission he himself sent her on, to kill Tommen without a weapon, since that apparently didn't count? I mean, sure, USING it was her choice, but that was literally our introduction to the character and can we play the clip about him being fair again?
I don’t understand why Fanny May’s path to the dark side would be “complete” after killing Sol when she’s already killed three other Jedi and had no particular connection to him. Why didn’t those murders complete her journey?
No sense.
They completed her journey because the author says so - and the author seems to have forgotten the primary rule of fiction: that the difference between fiction and reality is that fiction *must* make sense.
Three words, “positive corruption arc”.
Ignore the fact this sounds like a Erotica tag rather than the concept for a story.
@@joaovitorstein4024 I wouldn't be surprised if Leslye intended it to be erotica at first before corporate stepped in and said "no."
1) It's bizarre that this is something disney would let happen. Headland's vulture interview basically had her misunderstand the cave on Dagobar and then when she relates the acolyte to her play ('Christianity is the ultimate dream. It’s a beautiful concept that God becomes human in order to love you more. Then you look at what Christianity has done to the world: colonization, genocide. It was a beautiful dream that doesn’t justify the human action that comes along. The Jedi also live in a dream, a dream they believe everybody has. In The Acolyte, the pilot ends with the line “An acolyte kills the dream.” '). So the first detail is Headland being allowed to create a story in which the Jedi are a punching bag for her issues with her parents. And where was Disney's PR team while Headland was having seriously whack interviews. The Rachel Ziegler catastrophe was probably because Ziegler was coached on political commentary. Headland can't possibly have gotten disney to agree to every last thing she says as being lore now. I just don't know how Bob Eiger hasn't physically got in the car and driven to physically prevent her from doing interviews. When dealing with a billion-dollar (family friendly) IP, he needs to have confidence in Headland's discipline in choosing what to say - and what not to say. It can't be hard to ask her to not endorse evil.
2) The second element is they've intentionally sold the audience an incomplete product. The only way the narrative makes sense if if they plan to backfill A LOT. It's like buying a model aeroplane and then finding out they've deliberately withheld half the pieces and you have to buy however many other products you feel like for the entry level product to have a basic level of completeness. I struggled to think of a metaphor. Initially I was going with them selling their audience a puppy and then the consumer finding out Disney had hacked off several of its limbs and you needed to buy them back. It needed those limbs. They weren't optional extras.
The intention of disney doing this is weird. You want a difficult watch? Watch a Gaspar Noé flick (Please don't). On top of that, the best case is they're screwing the audience out of something that meets the basic criteria of a piece of competent fiction. The green character based on clips seems to be a charisma black hole. Anyone with a functioning brain is going to know that a character whose thing is they don't emote is going to have ZERO charisma. They knowingly build a narrative thread about a character with the warmth of a wooden board.
@@victorcates9330 That, "Christianity is a dream" schlock makes me unreasonably angry. First off, her theology is, expectedly, awful. God didn't come down to love us more, He came down to save us from sin. Secondly, its funny how people like leslye never mention the good Christianity has done. Modern Universities, scientific breakthroughs, oodles and oodles of charity and humanitarian work, the entire moral foundation of the western world, etc. etc. They always focus on "muh colonization." Also, what dream do the Jedi live in, exactly? She never expands upon that (what a shocker) and instead just acts like we're inside her head and know what she's thinking (Thank God in Heaven that we aren't).
The hilarious thing is decades ago Disney was so protective of its kid branding the adult shit had its own label, Touchstone it might have been called. They really don't care now.
I like how they want the elegance of having the story ending where it began, on Brendok, but nobody has any reason to actually be at Brendok. Sol goes there because…??? He’d just seen his whole team killed by a Sith, and decided he didn’t want to deal with that. He found Mae, and instead of taking her to Coruscant as a prisoner, or to get her blood tests to compare to Osha, he went to Brendok. And the only reason Osha and Qyburn go to Brendok is because the writers dropped in a vision of the future so that Osha could figure out where the plot is.
Insert Lucas's "It's like poetry" meme here.
Exactly.
Especially when Osha had completely lost her connection to the Force and had done nothing to rebuild that connection besides walk by a couple moth-bugs, but apparently a few minutes under a not-sensory deprivation helmet that blocks stuff related to your mind, causes a random vision of the future.
But yea, why Sol goes to Brendok rather than return to Coruscant or even just wait for the Jedi to arrive where he was is nonsense beyond making himself look suspicious for ultimately no reason.
But then, many characters in this series do all manner of things for no reason, other than the writers need them to for plot they want to happen. Or in Yord's case to make him look like a fool just because.
I got it: Basil is actually the body puppet of Darth Tenebrous, who is controlling him with his body-snatching Force virus. The Dark Lord is now stuck with the impossible task of cleaning Smylo Ren's mess with all the evidence the Jedi already have. It will require guile and quite a lot of clouding the Jedi's sight in the Force but he has to do it to keep the secret of the Sith's existence.
Of course, the real Basil is still there, conscious of everything his body is forced to do yet unable to resist the dark will that guides him.
And that is 1000 times better and more coherent than anything this show has excreted into existence.
All this time I thought your references to genitals were your jokes.
But no, the writer actually thinks of everything in terms of genitals.
I think if you wanted to kill a Jedi without a weapon, you could just make them watch the Acolyte!
Between this show and interviews given afterwards, is it safe to assume Headlamp has sociopathic tendencies? And daddy issues?
That...and I'm fairly sure she wants to bang her sister.
Not only safe, it's an injustice if you DIDN'T say so... 😂
If Sol is so fixated on proving the vergence, why has he not lifted a finger about it for 16 years?
That actually IS explained; because he believed Mae to be dead, and that she would be necessary to prove it. It's a bizarre, pointless motivation that I suspect is a leftover from a previous draft.
@@billjacobs521 You think they had multiple drafts? I doubt they got beyond the sticky note stage of storyboarding.
@@billjacobs521 look i know most of the show is crap but they had the scans, the blood samples, they have at least one of the twins to show she matches one of those samples. they really didnt need both.
@@billjacobs521I thought the vergence was on Brendok, ostensibly at the tree, and crazy mother used that to create the twins?
It'd be odd for the twins to be the vergence given: (a) they're split so not converged; and (b) the vergence was thus artificial, making crazy mother the most powerful force user ever.
Ergo, they could still investigate Brendok for the vergence.
If the twins were the vergence, then given they're both alive, the Jedi should still sense it. Else why did they go to Brendok at all? Not to mention the blood tests.
Or, most likely, this show is stupid and the writers wrote illogical nonsense.
@@ferrishthefish what if i told you this is atleast the fourth draft?
Disney Star Wars is a world where people are absolutely ready to, at any moment, listen to, and believe, people that they themselves have witnessed doing the most atrocious things, while , on the other hand, they are also willing to believe the most horrible things about people that they have only witnessed being brave, honest, good, and honorable.
kind of weird that.
Yeah, its strange. And a double standard. That i think is bred from a belief that all people are inherently evil, and a blind hate of religion (which isn't to say religious groups don't have bad people, just they don't care to separate good people from bad. It's just a restrictive, intrusive religion).
If I had to make sense of it, I think that they believe all people are evil. That bad people are just being themselves, and moral people are either 1) pretending they aren't also evil or 2) are undermining the immoral with their goodness.
@@ThreadBareHope1234
You give the writers more credit than I do.
I think that it is more a clumsy and hamfisted attempt to do a " grey morality" scenario.
@@ThreadBareHope1234 you could read any Catholic source for a simple explanation of original s1n, if you want a conclusive answer.
@@HunnysPlaylists
Yes.
The idea that a choice , made by one , or two, individuals, thousands of years ago, means that every single other person, for the remainder of time, is responsible for said person or person's action is highly conclusive.
Inane, but conclusive.
@@daverobson3084 you do not know what s1n is.
"This show is so forgetful it could be replaced by it's own vice president"🤣
Glorious!
Wait, was Plagueis really just creeping on Smilo Ren while he bathed?
The show is like staring into the depths of the psych of a villain that can't accept responsibility for any of their vile actions. Not because of competence from the writers tho, it's just because they truly are that way.
The show is a glimpse into an evil and twisted mind.
Once upon a time I would have considered this comment hyperbolic, but you're absolutely correct. The woman is morally bankrupt at best.
And below average IQ let’s face it she lesbian headband could be evil twisted and still make a great show
Unfortunately she dumb af and the cost was my beloved franchise of star wars to prove it
It only gets more apparent the more you hear her talk.
and such a shallow story
“Write what you know”
I just want to point out how horrendous the scene of Osha getting the vision in Smilo's helmet is.
She only goes to Brendok because she sees a vision of herself on Brendok. She has no other motivation for being there, besides that she will be there.
The writers are so ham-fisted and incompetent that the only way they could get the climax of the season to happen was by very unsubtly reaching through the fourth wall and telling their aimless protagonist "hey, go here next," unwittingly creating an in-universe causality loop in the process.
This show has revolutionized writing for movies and television by implementing the "go here to do this" mechanic many video games have. All it was really missing was a quest marker or guiding line showing up in front of the characters
@@johnjohnson9073and some exp and a sick shotgun as a reward
A full fledge jedi knight doesn't even try to use the force to stop an apprentice from choking him to death
He's a master. Which makes it even more embarrassing. I can see why tons of people who watched this trash assumed he just let it happen.
@@tehrulefoohe did. According to Leslye, his acceptance of his fate is part of his sexism that robs Oshae of her triumph
Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Bazil The Convenient? I thought not. It’s not a story the Jedi would tell you. It’s a Sith legend. Dark Lord of the Sith, so powerful and so convenient he could use the Force to influence the midichlorians to bend plot… He had such a knowledge of the dark side that he could even make the ones he cared about die. The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be convenient. He became so powerful… the only thing he was afraid of was losing his power, which eventually of course, he didn't, conveniently. Unfortunately, he taught his apprentice everything he knew, then his apprentice convinienced him in his sleep. Convenient. He could save others conveniently, but himself.
I'll never not believe that this show was not a AI generated screenplay.
I'm currently playing around with AI, and every story an AI produced for me so far was way more coherent, thoughtful and insightful. Even more emotional. No, these hack writers have managed to somehow be worse than AI.
AI could not be this stupid.
AI tends to tap into the way that a whole lot of people do things. It has a sort of ersatz version of “the wisdom of crowds.” This sort of writing is so distinctively wrong that unless the AI is fed only similar dreck as examples, it will not produce it.
@@olafgurke4699 You are playing with AI that is public released in 2024. This screenplay is from 2 to 4 years ago. AI wasn't always what you are playing with right now.
My specific working sub-theory of that is that every single episode is written by a different AI system, based on the same story outline.
I just can't get over how dumb a lightsaber whip is. I'm aware it's not this shows fault, but that doesn't make it any less of a silly idea.
What? You don't think flailing that thing around in close combat would be effective? Lol.
@@LRich-hg3hu It's more about how lightsabers work to begin with.
If I had to use that thing I'd stick it on a drone and pilot it from a safe distance lol
Your retelling of this series is so much more interesting and entertaining than the original story
Lightsaber bleeding is stupid, and it's an example of the world-building being completely at war with itself. Excessive longness incoming.
When Star Wars was an original idea, Darth Vader's lightsaber was a unique artifact. It was red because it was part of the black/red motif he'd crafted, and it did signify him as the evil character in his duels with Luke and Obi-wan. But "red" doesn't inherently have an evil quality in universe or out, people can just like the color red. There was no reason to make the red lightsaber anything other than a personal preference of Vader, or an image he intentionally cultivated. But then Lucas came along with The Phantom Menace in 1999, when he was probably biting off more than he could chew from a writing and world-building perspective since he had just come off of the special edition releases of the original trilogy.
So Darth Maul shows up, and his lightsaber is also red because Lucas didn't think too hard about it. Maul also wore black and he's representing the same kind of evil that Vader represented, but with no personal connection to him. Red doesn't have to be a specific color chosen by evil people, but it's the one we've seen evil people use. So when he makes his next movies, we once again see that the evil force users-Dooku and Palpatine-also wield red lightsabers. And there's no explicit reason as to why, just the meta narrative reason that red is the color of evil force users in the universe of Star Wars. Why?
Whether you intentionally create a rule or not, the stuff you demonstrate in your story suggests at rules. Since all dark force users have red lightsabers, it's clearly a rule, so what's the in-universe rule? The OLD explanation was that, since the Jedi are the legitimate face of Force users in the galaxy and have the backing of the Republic, the only sources of Kyber Crystals, used in the production of lightsabers, were under Jedi/Republic control. In order for Sith to create lightsabers, they had to make synthetic crystals, which were all consequently red due to the process required to manufacture them. This mostly works, with the exception of Vader, the original source of the red lightsaber idea, since he would have had access to any Kyber Crystal he wanted as the arm of the emperor in control of the whole galaxy.
Bleeding is an inherent contradiction. The Sith are intentionally hiding their presence from the Jedi. They hide and operate in the shadows because the Jedi would like to wipe them out for being evil. However, it is somehow important in their beliefs that they use a specifically identifying weapon, a red lightsaber. It's a uniform. A uniform for people who intentionally don't want to be recognized. It's like spies intentionally dressing up in army uniforms bearing specific country flags, it undermines their whole objective. They should want lightsabers that are specifically NOT red so they don't give themselves away, and can masquerade as Jedi if it becomes necessary. Or else they want to pretend they just found a random lightsaber and have no force affiliation at all, if they're caught with one. But bleeding takes a rule, puts it in contradiction to the world-building, and thus sets the world-building at war with itself. It's incredibly poorly thought out, which is why it's ridiculous to see people arguing whether or not the Acolyte even did it right or not. It's stupid from inception.
"Darth" is just Vader's first name.
In A New Hope, all the astromech droids are "R2 units". Later they come up with an entire series from R1 to R7, but because R2D2 is a main character, the R2 model is the bestest ever and everyone in the Galaxy wants one even if it's ostensibly obsolete. He's the Windows 7 of droids.
I believe there was also some stuff about how Jedi meditate to find the correct, natural crystal for themselves, something that resonates with them, aka, takes time and effort. So it fits that the Sith would just manufacture them instead, take a shortcut to power, as it were. I also don't think it contradicts with Vader because, sure, he COULD have had any color he wanted, but by that point, this is established as the tool of the evil guys, including Sheev, so he'd keep it. Especially as red is a "scary" color so it would amplify the fear factor, compared to a calming blue or something.
Doesn’t lightsaber bleeding occur once a month?
"This is the Jedi order not the southern border"
Reading those wu tang lyrics has infected Platoons writing. 😂😂😂😂
I just want to say - as a psych major in undergrad - I can hear Freud and Lacan in so much of what Hedland writes and says in the Acolyte, especially when she explains her decisions in the story.
Freud really tapped into lefty intellectuals sexual frustrations and trauma as a way of explaining (projecting) human nature, usually by copying and remixing superior moral tales and lessons from Greek and Roman mythology into tales of social criticism and sexual repression. The irony that the coke-fiend guy who came up with "Penis Envy" to explain all the frustrations men have towards women in society, has been so influential in how feminists understand movies, literature, politics, culture etc is kind of funny in retrospect.
Nowhere is this more self-evident in the "Benevolent Sexism" justification Hedland uses to have Sol get force choked.
Did you mean to write the frustrations that women have towards men? Or am I not understanding the phrase "penis envy"?
@@billjacobs521The irony is that Freud’s psychosexual theories primarily pertained to men, in addition his entire contribution to psychology has been largely written off as “misogynistic”… and yet nearly all of his theories on complexes and psychodynamics are conspicuously good at describing feminists like Leslie.
@@billjacobs521 Yes. I think a key to understanding Freud and Psychoanalysis that it's always, at root, just projection - it's why in academic psychology it has been pretty much dismissed as pseudoscience, but in literature and the arts in general that never happened. Penis Envy in theory is supposed to explain the things that women find frustrating about men, but in practice, it is really what Freud (as the representative of men) finds frustrating in women.
@@jeviosoorishas181Freud is a funny guy. Yes, half his psychological shit does feel like projecting, but then I go out into the world and find people who have kind of oedipius complexes.
@@silverprimus321boi9 I think this is what distinguishes myth from science.
For instance, pretty much every tribe/ancient culture has a myth about how the sun came into existence and how it works, usually involving some kind of god helping to create it; and you look at it within the context of that culture and tribe only, you'd say, "Hmmm, I guess the myth is true." Mythology looks at the end result and makes a story to explain it that cannot be tested or experimented on. Basically, myths are a product of confirmation bias.
Freud started this tendency in psychology to turn myths into science by making it sound "scientific"; in reality, psychoanalysis really should be called "Myth Science." So given your example, you might see this, but the "why" it occurs is what is mostly a product of unscientific thought, this is why so often much of what produced was projection, because he lacked the curiosity or rigor that science would impose on him, to only make conclusions based on what he could provide evidence for.
The only good thing about this series is that it's bringing us fresh LittlePlatoon videos. Thanks for your effort and saving us from having to watch it ourselves❤
A light saber mood ring you guys!
Behold! Moodsabers TM.
It turns blue when you're happy, red when you're angry, green when you're sad, yellow when you're horny, and purple when you're about to fuck over the entire Jedi Order.
I don't care what they told you in school, Anakin blew up the Death Star.
It’s all coming together😂
That interview really is wild. The woman actually outlined in no uncertain terms that she is evil and wants to be evil.
The multiple times Squid game gets interrupted about telling (OSHA/Mae) what happened is like Finn repeatedly telling Rey he has something to tell her. lol
One of the worst Star Wars shows and I really wish it was never made. The franchise deserves so much better than this, or the worst offerings under Kathleen and co.
I'm not a big Star Wars fan but I sailed the high seas to watch The Acolyte becuase I had a very strong suspicion that it would be. After seeing the entire thing I honestly think it's one of the worst TV shows ever. Not worst Star Wars show; worst show period. Everything in it was so bad and inept and the (ahem) "questionable morality" was just the icing on the cake.
I actually should thank Leslie and co… it was this show that gave me the epiphany that continuing to pay for Disney+ was an utter waste of money… SW & Marvel movie reruns + bad new content ≠ good ROI…
Welcome to the light, comrade. While I feel I should scold you for not seeing it sooner, the perception of Disney's blasphemy is subject to each and every one of us. I, myself, abandoned all things Star Wars / Disney right after the Kenobi finale. Instead, I just wish to express a deep sympathy for you. No doubt you have suffered greatly at the whims of Disney's defilement of all things good. But now you see the truth, and I wish you all the best out there in the world.
The same could be said for not realizing midwatch of Force Awakens, and signs even before that, but there is no point crying over the spilled milk of wasted time.
I wish you all and those yet to see how much time may be saved by simply not bothering with modern Disney's hopeless nonsense.
@@AgentSmith1991 you’re 100% accurate. For me it was living with a cognitive dissonance that ultimately ended in a bitter realization… this thing that I loved and revered has been usurped by people that neither love nor care for what they now control (beyond financial gain). Worse still, they have a visceral disdain and contempt for it, and view their only job as destroying its legacy. Sad 😢… worse, they are undermining their own greed.
@@J0hnzie yes yes and yes!
You should check out the screen rant explanation for why Anakin's lightsaber didn't turn red. No joke, they said the whole reason that lightsaber stayed blue was because it's blue when Luke gets it.
Common Screenrant L
"Somehow, the lightsaber stayed blue" follows right long with "Somehow, Palpatine returned."
I refuse to use these characters’ actual names now after watching these videos 😂
They don’t have actual names just what Platoon calls them you can’t convince me otherwise.