You know, I do think Sheev would still retain Force Lightning, just as how Mace used Vaapad. It is in character and serves as a constant reminder of his own darkness that swirls within him.
Dooku basically still consistent to his idea even after join the dark side. Just like Qui-Gon, he see the flaw of what Jedi order system currently is. But unlike Qui-gon, he choice to take an exteme choice by joint the dark side to get more power to beat the current Jedi Order and create a new system from it, Palpatine also manipulating him and make him think they are at the same side, that why Dooku agree to Join and become a sith lord apperentice.
@@Ilyas-ty6cy He never thought him and Palpatine was on his side. He wanted to kill him the moment he found him, but knew he couldn't, so he wanted to learn the dark to defeat him, and he never wanted to kill all the jedi or even one of them, he wanted to save them. He was corrupted, but not enough to go fully dark, he even still had the light in him.
dooku never become a sith. be become a dark jedi. a sith got sith eyes, dooku never had them, therefore dooku never actually was a sith. he was a fallen jedi.
What if the Nightsisters Killed General Grievous during the Clone Wars This would give Mother Talzin enough time to also kill Count Dooku, MASSIVELY throwing off Palpatine’s plans
@@HENNY_22 In a 1v1 I think that Mother Talzin would defeat Palpatine 90% of the time But Palpatine would 100% loose to Mother Talzin and a Nightsister army but not until killing 80% of the army
@@thebananaspeedruns9275 Ah naw mate. No. Sidious is much to powerful. Talzin and Sidious may be equal in force power, but Sidious is much to powerful in a lightsaber duel. The only reason why Mace defeated Sidious is his Varrpad called upon Sidious's anger
Having read the Darth Plagueis novel several times, this seems like a viable possibility for an alternate storyline. How Dooku, Qui Gonn and Palpatine come together and work as a unit is quite rewarding. I've just discovered your page, and am looking forward to both exploring your video library, as well as seeing future content. 💯
I've also read it multiple times, absolutely LOVE IT. You'll enjoy "What If Darth Plagueis Killed Darth Sidious" which I've done, also doing another Plagueis video very soon.
not really Palpatine is a sociopath and as far as i know thats a unique condion to him all other force users both light and dark feel some kinda connection to someone Vadar love for his wife and kids Duku loyalty to some of the jedi Maul devion to his brother its even stated in that book that it gives him a one of a kind force ability i dont reamber what its canon name was so i usaly call it cloak he can use small amounts of his power without being sensed by others
I can't see it. right off the bat palpatine's parents would never allow a Jedi anywhere near Sheev unless it would somehow secure a way to keep the Jedi and Republic off their backs so they could keep being the corrupt aristocrats that they were. "The right thing" would never even register in Cosinga's mind.
I could imagine Palpatine being suspected to be the Chosen One and he would believe it. Once Anakin is found and labelled the Chosen One, Palpatine's pride would push him to the Dark Side.
@@karolclark791 I’ve been informed that Dooku was born in 102 BBY and Sidious was born in 82 BBY so… unless my math is wrong, it’s twenty years. Dooku is 80 and Sidious is 60
I don't think Maul, Ashoka and Rex will never be able to deal with Sidious by themselves. But Maul can be a great help to deal with Vader (which, at this point, is very bold, brash and arrogant, which contrasts with Maul's more cold headed, tactical and experienced approach to the Dark Side) alongside Obi Wan, allowing them to hold him off while Ashoka and Rex assist 3PO with securing Padme inside her ship before Ashoka leaves to help Obi Wan and Maul finish Vader, finally getting Sidious' new apprentice disarmed and dismembered just before Maul noticed in the Force that Sidious (who decided to leave his duel with Yoda (which is not far behind him on his Starfighter, which was left intact in the raid on the Temple) unconcluded when he sensed the intensity of the Duel against Vader thanks to Maul's intervention) is arriving. This will make Obi Wan order Ahsoka to leave with Rex and Padme to Polis Massa while he and Maul hold Sidious off, both of them with reasons to deal with him personally (Maul because of the years of torture and the death of Savage and Obi Wan wanting to be the resolute Blade of Justice to bring down the very man that massacred the Jedi Order, caused the Clone Wars and corrupted Anakin) at least until Yoda arrives and joins the fight and it would be in this moment when Sidious would be fully overpowered since he was already tired from fighting Yoda on Coruscant (and he hasn't fully recovered from his Duel with Windu by the time he was fighting Yoda) with Maul and Yoda dealing the final push that will knock him towards his Ship, rendering him restrained long enough for Yoda to initiate the very ritual (that the Jedi used to sever Ulic-Quel-Dorma's connection with the Force) to end Sidious' brief rein of terror as Emperor, at the cost of his own life since he basically had to serve as a conduit to chanel all that Force Energy required (in a display of Force that will shock Obi Wan, Maul, and even the weakened Anakin to the core as well as cleansing the latter 2 from the Dark Side's toxic influence in their souls (despite not being in the receiving end) and will be felt by Jedi all around the Galaxy) leaving him a few minutes before he joins the Force himself. Obi Wan and the newly cleansed Maul then take their leave from Mustafar with what remained of Anakin Skywalker which would be then refitted with cybernetics and then tried along with Palpatine's Collaborators by the newly restored senate led by Organa and Mothma and then sentenced to life imprisonment for all his crimes while Padme leaves to care for her children which would be trained by Obi Wan in the Force
A brilliant take on an alternative version of the Prequels. Surprisingly much better than the actual prequels, even though the ending was always going to be predictable in this scenario.
I like that even without Palpatine pulling the strings, it's still by the will of the Force that Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan are destined to become stranded on Tatooine for one reason or another in order to meet Anakin
I have heard stories before about Palpatine what's ifs and they some how always have him convert over to the Dark Side. 'It's inevitable'. So I certainly enjoyed this version most of all! Thank you for this one that I hadn't heard! :-)
Too be honest I don’t think Palpatine ever had what it takes to be a jedi, being a jedi is more than just force potential it’s about serving others and keeping the peace, Palpatines very nature was completely contradictory to the Jedi principles and im sure the council would have sensed that before he was even taken as a padawan let alone make it to jedi knight, no at the very least he would have received basic training as a youngling then most likely would have been thrown out by the age of 11 for multiple counts of conspiracy and disorderly conduct in which case he would return to his family on naboo and either live out his life as a politician or enter the sith order like he did in canon.
@@Elyseon umm im pretty sure he was born a psychopath or at the very least with some form of antisocial personality disorder, palpatines father knew something was wrong with him since the day he was born.
Loved this video my guy, you really out did yourself! Always nice to see Plagueis get some love too. Now all we need is "What if Fantasy Folklore was too cool for school"
Yeah honestly plageius would of gotten bodied by a team up of dooku, mace, Anakin, and palatine with each of them being comparable to him, and even with them teaming up with the clones I doubt they'd last long.
This was cool my friend! Keep things up. I really like the political and underworld part of Star wars and I like your ideas what change if Palpatine was not there. I really like Darth Plaugises chocies in the what if. May the force be with you!
@@FantasyFolklore Great to hear that! I am reading the Darth Plaugis book so its great to see content about Plaugis. Darth Tenebrous is also a great charater. I can think you would be up to a what if like that.
Palpatine was psychotic so he was devoid of love and more "light side" emotions. He was essentially born to be a Sith. You would need Yoda himself to be his master and even then I think at some point it's 99% he would turn. He may have even been mistaken for the chosen one too as his midichlorin count was through the roof.
Not knowing where droid caches are to re activate they don't have the industrial capability to produce them in worthwhile numbers and using battlegrounds would just be graded A propaganda for the empire labeling the rebellion as the new version of the CIS many people hated Droids due to the clone wars using battledroids would do more harm to the rebellion than good
I don't think Guerrera will be the best option to lead the Rebellion to victory against the Empire. In fact, his actions will boost the Imperial Propaganda and further cement the Core Worlds' mindset that the Rebellion is nothing more than a bunch of terrorists seeking to overthrow the new order created by Palpatine for their own gain
"dooku was surprised to hear his friend sifo dyas had ordered the creation of the army, but since dyas shared a view that the war was eminent, he wasnt surprised"
when do you think you can make what if mace trusted anakin from the start what if the jedi order accepted anakin from the start and what if anakin tripled his powers instead of doubled
2 funny things, i just love how you casually mention obi wan and never mention him again. And two: DOOKU IS OLDER THAN PALPATINE WHAT!!!???, i was so shocked when you mentioned that palpatine's master was dooku
I wrote the story in two sessions, wrote Obi Wan in session 1, and forgot about him in session 2 hahahaa. People are so shocked I thought everyone knew!
If he was a Jedi I believe balance would be broken. Giving rise to someone far more powerful to oppose the strength of the light that now has tilted towards the Jedi. please give us something without skywalkers in it. It's been nine movies and countless books. A whole unknown region to explore. You got a sub and like tho my guy.
I know that the Dark Side of the force can change the user's appearance but usually not quite as dramatically as the likes of Snoke and Sion. Snoke's head is Bulbous in size, yes; but not Vertically elongated like Plagueis' and his nose is quite different from his too, but we only see this in Snoke's Dark Side appearance; but I imagine that if he was in his normal Jedi appearance, he would've probably have an almost gaunt skull like face but with a short elfin/goblin-like nose instead of a shriveled little snipe of a nose but his head would still be as big as "Alice in Wonderland/Through the Looking Glass" Red Queen of Hearts Iracebeth's head. I have seen the Side by Side pictures myself and I understand that much that the two Sith lords look nothing alike even if we are looking at just the altered face of Snoke, but he is certainly not the altered face of Palpatine's old master. I know everyone claims, believes, theorizes and says that Snoke and Plagueis are the same character or one is the clone of the other, but Plagueis was not the one who cloned himself; Snoke did clone his own self, why else does Snoke look centuries older than Plagueis❔ And it is quite possible that Palpatine in the usual timeline managed to kill off Plagueis before the former Dark Master would have the Idea for a time to come to clone himself. It is clear to me that Snoke knew more Sith secrets than Plagueis did. I knew Palpatine was lying to Anakin Skywalker in "Revenge of the Sith"(He {Shive Palpatine} always sounds like he likes to hear himself talk than be 💯% with the facts), when he was giving Plagueis credit for such knowledge, he also lied about the possibility to heal everyone through the power of the Dark side of the force, and that Plagueis also had such knowledge but that was a lie too. As we should all know by now that you can only have the lightside power of force healing through experience and have full commitment to Master the power of the Lightside of the force, even if you were only a lightside at just shy of 50% of your alignment power. Ray got her healing powers by circumstance and her over all drive to stay in the light of all that she cares about that we see her strive for throughout the sequel trilogy.
This leaves me with a couple of questions. The novelization of Darth plagueis made it seem as if palpatine was irreversibly evil. I don't think it would have been possible for him to be a Jedi. Also, what was palpatine's midichlorian count?
From the Darth Plagueis novel.... Palpatine’s lip curled in anger and menace. “Is this the wisdom you offer -the tenets of some arcane cult?!” “The test of its value is whether you can live by it, Palpatine.” “If I had wanted that I would have forced my parents years ago to SURRENDER ME TO THE JEDI ORDER instead of transferring me from school to private school.” Plagueis planted his hands on his hips and laughed without mirth. “And of what possible use do you think a person of your nature would be to the Jedi Order? You’re heartless, ambitious, arrogant, insidious, and without shame or empathy. More, you’re a murderer.”
Dooku is one of my favorite because he was honest the whole time, the Jedi order was the problem in their one sided only, think about how many times if they weren’t so stuck on shutting down your feelings and ignoring dark side, if they weren’t so afraid of it What would have changed in anakins life, dooku, all of them
Dooku was never seduced by the dark side and neither did he want to embrace it he was after power and stability but in the end was not evil did have regrets and would of been 100% redeemable if survived loved his character 😊
What if Ayala Secura and Kit Fisto left the Jedi Order? What if Luminara Unduli fell into dark side? What if Depa Billaba Survived? What if Ezra really died in "Fire across the galaxy"?
What if Palpatine didn't die when he fell down the chute on the Death Star in Return of the Jedi? What if he generated enough lightning to go through a wormhole to someplace else? ...or what if Palpatine went through that wormhole and landed on earth?
Finally I’ve been waiting for this video for a long time and now we have it my prediction would be palatine takes asajj or Anakin as a apprentice and helps Anakin defeat the sith and maybe become the grand master and maul will join the sith
10:50 could anyone please explaine why they always say Anakin was too old to be trained? He was 9 years old if i remember correctly. Luke, Rey and Lea were way older when they started the training. Would be awesome if someone could make sense of it
The idea, at least in the original Expanded Universe (so don't know if they've changed it since) is that the reason Anakin is seen as too old is because traditionally Jedi are brought to the temple as babies (with the consent of the parents in nearly all cases, something people forget all the time), thus they grow up without much connection to their families and old lives, allowing them to avoid becoming attached to them and thus allowing negative emotions like fear to influence their decisions (like we see happen with Anakin being afraid of losing his mother). Anakin was much older when they found him and so had already developed such attachments, which meant he was also more primed to form more such attachments (like with Padme), therefore he wouldn't have been able to make himself purely selfless in the Jedi thought they were supposed to be. This of course was a somewhat flawed premise by the Jedi (since attachments, when handled in a healthy manner, help make the Jedi more empathetic; they practiced a more pure abstinence approach when it came to Dark Side resistance), but that is beside the point; point is, Anakin was well behind the curve as far as emotional intelligence by Jedi standards due to his age. Luke and Leia were trained as Jedi in a different era with different rules in Leia's case and no rules in Luke's case, so those restrictions don't apply; Rey I have no comments on.
My thinking, since Palpatine is with the order, this just delays Plaguis’ plan and HE frees Anakin by killing his mother and over paying Watto for him. He would train Anakin as a politician and a Sith, using mind tricks and other dark tactics to become the youngest Chancellor running against his political rival Padme.
What do you think will happen? Leave your predictions in the comments!
What is Maul and Ashoka teamed up to stop the emperor and anakin at the end of the clone wars??💯💯💯
Can u do what if Obi-Wan was the choosen one?
@@NateGreat687 Correct, you win 1000 points
4th and what if Lego man bob was a Jedi master
*mind blown*
Palpatine: I have the power to save the one you love!
Anakin: Well stop shooting lightning at him!
Palpatine: What?!
Windu: WHAT?!
Lmao
WHAT?!
You know, I do think Sheev would still retain Force Lightning, just as how Mace used Vaapad. It is in character and serves as a constant reminder of his own darkness that swirls within him.
ayo
😂🤣🤣
Windu: "Cmon, Palpatine, we need to stop the sith!"
Palpatine: "Why?"
Windu: "Motherfcker, just dew it!"
Palpatine: "Its reason, then..."
😂😂
dew it
u better correct that or its treason then
😂😂AHHA
Right thats it, I've had enough of these Mother f***in Sith in this Mother f***in galaxy.
"Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise?"
"Yes, Master Palpatine. I'm the one who killed him, remember?"
"Oh... right."
how has this comment not blown up
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I still can't understand how Dooku was actually one of the nicest and kind hearted jedi to a sith corrupted by evil
Dooku basically still consistent to his idea even after join the dark side. Just like Qui-Gon, he see the flaw of what Jedi order system currently is. But unlike Qui-gon, he choice to take an exteme choice by joint the dark side to get more power to beat the current Jedi Order and create a new system from it, Palpatine also manipulating him and make him think they are at the same side, that why Dooku agree to Join and become a sith lord apperentice.
@@Ilyas-ty6cy He never thought him and Palpatine was on his side. He wanted to kill him the moment he found him, but knew he couldn't, so he wanted to learn the dark to defeat him, and he never wanted to kill all the jedi or even one of them, he wanted to save them. He was corrupted, but not enough to go fully dark, he even still had the light in him.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions
dooku never become a sith. be become a dark jedi. a sith got sith eyes, dooku never had them, therefore dooku never actually was a sith. he was a fallen jedi.
Im amazed at how wrong the comments are lol
I can’t believe I didn’t even think of this idea. If Palpatine was a Jedi, instead of a Sith lord, that would’ve changed everything.
Or if Palpatine was a failed padawan or left the jedi relatively early in training and was taken in by the Sith
Bro the parallels are amazing with dooku training him being an inverse of what actually happened
Thanks boss
What if the Nightsisters Killed General Grievous during the Clone Wars
This would give Mother Talzin enough time to also kill Count Dooku, MASSIVELY throwing off Palpatine’s plans
Palps would've massacred every single one of them
@@HENNY_22 In a 1v1 I think that Mother Talzin would defeat Palpatine 90% of the time
But Palpatine would 100% loose to Mother Talzin and a Nightsister army but not until killing 80% of the army
@@HENNY_22 Talzien would slam palps and it's not close
@@galagize9233 why would she want to become his apprentice then
@@thebananaspeedruns9275 Ah naw mate. No. Sidious is much to powerful. Talzin and Sidious may be equal in force power, but Sidious is much to powerful in a lightsaber duel. The only reason why Mace defeated Sidious is his Varrpad called upon Sidious's anger
Having read the Darth Plagueis novel several times, this seems like a viable possibility for an alternate storyline. How Dooku, Qui Gonn and Palpatine come together and work as a unit is quite rewarding. I've just discovered your page, and am looking forward to both exploring your video library, as well as seeing future content. 💯
I've also read it multiple times, absolutely LOVE IT. You'll enjoy "What If Darth Plagueis Killed Darth Sidious" which I've done, also doing another Plagueis video very soon.
not really Palpatine is a sociopath and as far as i know thats a unique condion to him all other force users both light and dark feel some kinda connection to someone Vadar love for his wife and kids Duku loyalty to some of the jedi Maul devion to his brother its even stated in that book that it gives him a one of a kind force ability i dont reamber what its canon name was so i usaly call it cloak he can use small amounts of his power without being sensed by others
I can't see it. right off the bat palpatine's parents would never allow a Jedi anywhere near Sheev unless it would somehow secure a way to keep the Jedi and Republic off their backs so they could keep being the corrupt aristocrats that they were. "The right thing" would never even register in Cosinga's mind.
I could imagine Palpatine being suspected to be the Chosen One and he would believe it. Once Anakin is found and labelled the Chosen One, Palpatine's pride would push him to the Dark Side.
Good point
I still can't grasp how Dooku was old enough to be Palpatines master but instead Palpatine became his master while 40years younger
40 years? I believe Dooku was Born in 102 BBY whilst Palpatine was born in 82 BBY. I think it’s 20 years actually
@@darthnihilusreborn14 i thought that during episode 3 Dooku was 90 and Palps 50.
I could be wrong
My thoughts exactly
@@karolclark791 I’ve been informed that Dooku was born in 102 BBY and Sidious was born in 82 BBY so… unless my math is wrong, it’s twenty years. Dooku is 80 and Sidious is 60
It's actually 18 as palpatine was born 84 bby
I am honestly surprised you didn't have Palpatine find Maul and train him as a Jedi in this, it would have been so fitting. lol
Palpatine: "Help us train this Skywalker boy."
Dooku: "I shouldn't..."
Palpatine: "Do it!"
DEW IT! 😂
Palatine would have been a extremely powerful Jedi given how powerful he was as a sith in the original time line
Exactly
I’ve got a good one!
What if Maul and Ashoka teamed up to stop the emperor and anakin?💯
woahhh omg ye
What if Anakin was born in the High Republic?
I don't think Maul, Ashoka and Rex will never be able to deal with Sidious by themselves. But Maul can be a great help to deal with Vader (which, at this point, is very bold, brash and arrogant, which contrasts with Maul's more cold headed, tactical and experienced approach to the Dark Side) alongside Obi Wan, allowing them to hold him off while Ashoka and Rex assist 3PO with securing Padme inside her ship before Ashoka leaves to help Obi Wan and Maul finish Vader, finally getting Sidious' new apprentice disarmed and dismembered just before Maul noticed in the Force that Sidious (who decided to leave his duel with Yoda (which is not far behind him on his Starfighter, which was left intact in the raid on the Temple) unconcluded when he sensed the intensity of the Duel against Vader thanks to Maul's intervention) is arriving. This will make Obi Wan order Ahsoka to leave with Rex and Padme to Polis Massa while he and Maul hold Sidious off, both of them with reasons to deal with him personally (Maul because of the years of torture and the death of Savage and Obi Wan wanting to be the resolute Blade of Justice to bring down the very man that massacred the Jedi Order, caused the Clone Wars and corrupted Anakin) at least until Yoda arrives and joins the fight and it would be in this moment when Sidious would be fully overpowered since he was already tired from fighting Yoda on Coruscant (and he hasn't fully recovered from his Duel with Windu by the time he was fighting Yoda) with Maul and Yoda dealing the final push that will knock him towards his Ship, rendering him restrained long enough for Yoda to initiate the very ritual (that the Jedi used to sever Ulic-Quel-Dorma's connection with the Force) to end Sidious' brief rein of terror as Emperor, at the cost of his own life since he basically had to serve as a conduit to chanel all that Force Energy required (in a display of Force that will shock Obi Wan, Maul, and even the weakened Anakin to the core as well as cleansing the latter 2 from the Dark Side's toxic influence in their souls (despite not being in the receiving end) and will be felt by Jedi all around the Galaxy) leaving him a few minutes before he joins the Force himself. Obi Wan and the newly cleansed Maul then take their leave from Mustafar with what remained of Anakin Skywalker which would be then refitted with cybernetics and then tried along with Palpatine's Collaborators by the newly restored senate led by Organa and Mothma and then sentenced to life imprisonment for all his crimes while Padme leaves to care for her children which would be trained by Obi Wan in the Force
Been thinking of doing this one
@@FantasyFolklore would be very cool
What if Anakin was born in the High Republic?
Thats a good one
Yeah, it's one I've been dying to see.
@PMilly wait how so
@PMilly ain't no way
No thanks that would suck
Mace: Skywalker give me hand with The Senator
Anakin: which hand
Palpatine: Heh
Mace: You little mf
A brilliant take on an alternative version of the Prequels. Surprisingly much better than the actual prequels, even though the ending was always going to be predictable in this scenario.
Thanks mate!
I like that even without Palpatine pulling the strings, it's still by the will of the Force that Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan are destined to become stranded on Tatooine for one reason or another in order to meet Anakin
I have heard stories before about Palpatine what's ifs and they some how always have him convert over to the Dark Side. 'It's inevitable'. So I certainly enjoyed this version most of all! Thank you for this one that I hadn't heard! :-)
please do part 2 this is amazing I watched a lot of your stuff but this is probably one of the best
Matt Smith as Palpatine is something I didn't know I needed in my life.
Timestamp?
or what if leia never stopped her jedi training with luke
Too be honest I don’t think Palpatine ever had what it takes to be a jedi, being a jedi is more than just force potential it’s about serving others and keeping the peace, Palpatines very nature was completely contradictory to the Jedi principles and im sure the council would have sensed that before he was even taken as a padawan let alone make it to jedi knight, no at the very least he would have received basic training as a youngling then most likely would have been thrown out by the age of 11 for multiple counts of conspiracy and disorderly conduct in which case he would return to his family on naboo and either live out his life as a politician or enter the sith order like he did in canon.
He would have to not have been born a psychopath.
@@Elyseon umm im pretty sure he was born a psychopath or at the very least with some form of antisocial personality disorder, palpatines father knew something was wrong with him since the day he was born.
@@ryggamortis7594 Exactly. The only way he would have been Jedi material is if he hadn't been born a psychopath. Unless his name was Ki-Adi-Mundi.
@@Elyseon ohhh my bad I misread your comment sorry my dude
This is sooo good! Amazing writing dude!
Loved this video my guy, you really out did yourself! Always nice to see Plagueis get some love too.
Now all we need is "What if Fantasy Folklore was too cool for school"
this is underated af @Fantasy Folklore deserves more clout
I kinda never thought about Plo Koon's age. DIdn't realize he was almost 400.
Neither until I researched for this video!
What If Ahsoka Found Ezra As A Baby And Trained Him?
Interesting
@@soularprimestudios5930 Agree
timothy chalamet as a young Sheev is not something I ever envisioned but now kinda want.
Yeah honestly plageius would of gotten bodied by a team up of dooku, mace, Anakin, and palatine with each of them being comparable to him, and even with them teaming up with the clones I doubt they'd last long.
What if they knew, for more context the characters in the what if know their in a what if
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"You are on this council, and we do grant you the rank of master." - Mace Windu's force ghost
Palpatine would be a formidable Jedi actually.
This was cool my friend! Keep things up. I really like the political and underworld part of Star wars and I like your ideas what change if Palpatine was not there. I really like Darth Plaugises chocies in the what if. May the force be with you!
More Plagueis coming soon!
@@FantasyFolklore Great to hear that! I am reading the Darth Plaugis book so its great to see content about Plaugis. Darth Tenebrous is also a great charater. I can think you would be up to a what if like that.
@@welcome2-5555 Get ready for the best star wars experience of your life. That book is gold.
Palpatine was psychotic so he was devoid of love and more "light side" emotions. He was essentially born to be a Sith. You would need Yoda himself to be his master and even then I think at some point it's 99% he would turn. He may have even been mistaken for the chosen one too as his midichlorin count was through the roof.
Such a good watch w details matching up and contradicting the Plagueis book
What if cal kestus was actually the nephew of Palpatine? But that’s just a theory… A FILM THEORY
What if the rebellion used battle droids?
Not knowing where droid caches are to re activate they don't have the industrial capability to produce them in worthwhile numbers and using battlegrounds would just be graded A propaganda for the empire labeling the rebellion as the new version of the CIS many people hated Droids due to the clone wars using battledroids would do more harm to the rebellion than good
What if vader realized Leia was his daughter when he took her prisoner
Palpatine being a Jedi in this timeline would be interesting to see, also who would be the bad guy then?
What If Satine Kryze was a Jedi
Someone already did that
@@HENNY_22it doesn’t mean Fantasy Folklore couldn’t do his own twist on it
What if Darth Vader secretly cloned Anakin Skywalker’s body and performed essence transfer after ROTS?
Yes!
I neeeed it
That would be cool but wouldn't make sense
@@galagize9233it makes a lot of sense. If Vader learns how to tranafer his consciousness into a brand spanking new cloned body.
what if saw gerrera led the rebellion
Everything would blow up, the end.
I don't think Guerrera will be the best option to lead the Rebellion to victory against the Empire. In fact, his actions will boost the Imperial Propaganda and further cement the Core Worlds' mindset that the Rebellion is nothing more than a bunch of terrorists seeking to overthrow the new order created by Palpatine for their own gain
They would be the very definition of a domestic terrorist in today’s world
_"When I left you I was but the learner, now I am the master"_ ~ Count Dooku in this AU
What if anakin was born in the old republic but the jedi was the one who found him?
Ah, Yes, Anakin killing an dis(un?)unarmed assailant is very on brand.
Pls do the next one. What if qui gon didn't tell Obi Wan to train anakin
Maybe in the future
@@FantasyFolklore DEW IT
So… Palpie brought balance to the force 😮
This video was fuckin awesome! Kept my full attention the whole time I loved it
damn thats a very cool what if story🔥
but what happend to the clones after the war in this „timeline“ i gues we need a part 2 😂
What if thrawn worked for the rebellion?
This would be interesting...
The Empire is screwed
@@ingamingpc1634 i mean the republic one ended with order 66 failing
Satan:
"An interesting story. But, we all know, he was always going to serve me."
His fall to the darkside was inevitable
"dooku was surprised to hear his friend sifo dyas had ordered the creation of the army, but since dyas shared a view that the war was eminent, he wasnt surprised"
the image at6:57 ilustrates on how tall dart plagis was, he was over 2m tall standig straight:he is grabbing that assassin like a disobedient child
when do you think you can make what if mace trusted anakin from the start what if the jedi order accepted anakin from the start and what if anakin tripled his powers instead of doubled
In the future !
Thrice the pride, Triple the fall
2 funny things, i just love how you casually mention obi wan and never mention him again. And two: DOOKU IS OLDER THAN PALPATINE WHAT!!!???, i was so shocked when you mentioned that palpatine's master was dooku
I wrote the story in two sessions, wrote Obi Wan in session 1, and forgot about him in session 2 hahahaa. People are so shocked I thought everyone knew!
Palpatine is older then Qui-Gon Jinn.
"What if palpy was a Jedi?"
*Rolls credits*
I'm sorry, this was amazing, but seeing Qui-Gon bonk the apprentice at the end killed me
If he was a Jedi I believe balance would be broken. Giving rise to someone far more powerful to oppose the strength of the light that now has tilted towards the Jedi. please give us something without skywalkers in it. It's been nine movies and countless books. A whole unknown region to explore. You got a sub and like tho my guy.
2:48 Just tell me to who I should give my possessions to for seeing this irl
Dooku training Palps. Uno reverse card.😂
I didn't know that RUclips had bots 💀
I know that the Dark Side of the force can change the user's appearance but usually not quite as dramatically as the likes of Snoke and Sion. Snoke's head is Bulbous in size, yes; but not Vertically elongated like Plagueis' and his nose is quite different from his too, but we only see this in Snoke's Dark Side appearance; but I imagine that if he was in his normal Jedi appearance, he would've probably have an almost gaunt skull like face but with a short elfin/goblin-like nose instead of a shriveled little snipe of a nose but his head would still be as big as "Alice in Wonderland/Through the Looking Glass" Red Queen of Hearts Iracebeth's head.
I have seen the Side by Side pictures myself and I understand that much that the two Sith lords look nothing alike even if we are looking at just the altered face of Snoke, but he is certainly not the altered face of Palpatine's old master. I know everyone claims, believes, theorizes and says that Snoke and Plagueis are the same character or one is the clone of the other, but Plagueis was not the one who cloned himself; Snoke did clone his own self, why else does Snoke look centuries older than Plagueis❔
And it is quite possible that Palpatine in the usual timeline managed to kill off Plagueis before the former Dark Master would have the Idea for a time to come to clone himself. It is clear to me that Snoke knew more Sith secrets than Plagueis did. I knew Palpatine was lying to Anakin Skywalker in "Revenge of the Sith"(He {Shive Palpatine} always sounds like he likes to hear himself talk than be 💯% with the facts), when he was giving Plagueis credit for such knowledge, he also lied about the possibility to heal everyone through the power of the Dark side of the force, and that Plagueis also had such knowledge but that was a lie too.
As we should all know by now that you can only have the lightside power of force healing through experience and have full commitment to Master the power of the Lightside of the force, even if you were only a lightside at just shy of 50% of your alignment power.
Ray got her healing powers by circumstance and her over all drive to stay in the light of all that she cares about that we see her strive for throughout the sequel trilogy.
I'm actually curious to a What IF Abeloth escaped her prison, The Maw; during the Clone Wars (Just after a few months after the death of The Ones)
This doesn’t make sense, you are saying that palpatine was trained by count dooku? But dooku is palpatines apprentice in the movies
This leaves me with a couple of questions. The novelization of Darth plagueis made it seem as if palpatine was irreversibly evil. I don't think it would have been possible for him to be a Jedi. Also, what was palpatine's midichlorian count?
It’s been stated a few different things, but i believe the most commons belief is that his midichlorian count is around 19,000
So just above Yoda who I THINK is about 18,000
Yeeeeesss… goooood… long videos! Now, do what the pills could not! MAKE THEM LONGER!
MAYBE
You should do what if plaugeis and palpatine abandoned the rule of two and tried to rebuild the sith empire
Tom Hiddleston as a young Palpatine? This would rock
I imagine Yoda being like innocent I am, nothing to do with it had I
From the Darth Plagueis novel....
Palpatine’s lip curled in anger and menace. “Is this the wisdom you offer -the tenets of some arcane cult?!”
“The test of its value is whether you can live by it, Palpatine.”
“If I had wanted that I would have forced my parents years ago to SURRENDER ME TO THE JEDI ORDER instead of transferring me from school to private school.”
Plagueis planted his hands on his hips and laughed without mirth. “And of what possible use do you think a person of your nature would be to the Jedi Order? You’re heartless, ambitious, arrogant, insidious, and without shame or empathy. More, you’re a murderer.”
I LOVE IT
i like your stories i am going to run a starwars rpg and i plan on using some of your what if as some twist to the time line if that is ok with you.
If Palpatine had been a Jedi, a bunch of younglings would have lived happily ever after!
🤭😁😈
Dooku is one of my favorite because he was honest the whole time, the Jedi order was the problem in their one sided only, think about how many times if they weren’t so stuck on shutting down your feelings and ignoring dark side, if they weren’t so afraid of it
What would have changed in anakins life, dooku, all of them
What if Darth Vader and Trilla killed Palpatine
What if Darth Nihilus trained Anakin
What if Darth Revan trained Darth Maul
how would people who are dead from hundreds of years ago train people from today
This is a better version than the original on my mind
Bro when I saw the last palpatine one I wanted this so badly and I’m so glad someone else had the same idea
Wait, who?
Cheers g!
This is a great video keep the work up 👍
Cheers mate
Okay this video has just convinced me that we need a movie about young palpatine's fall to the darkside starring timothy chalamet...
Tom hiddelston would make a good young palps
@@galagize9233 very true!~
Dooku was never seduced by the dark side and neither did he want to embrace it he was after power and stability but in the end was not evil did have regrets and would of been 100% redeemable if survived loved his character 😊
Finally a what if video where he doesn’t turn evil I mean it’s called what if Palpatine was a Jedi after all
This story is way better than the prequels and the 3 aftermath ones.
Loved your video
What if Kina Ha trained Anakin Skywalker?
I can imagine the 6 movies fading away...
Please do what would happen if the chosen one used a fully intact ky-burr crystal
pretty cool man that was rivetting wanted to know what happened next
I appreciate it 🥰
fantastic love this take
What if Plagueis was the villain of the Sequels instead of Snoke/Palpatine? What if Rey & Kylo we’re siblings? What if Finn was Force Sensitive?
Palpatine
Would've been unsatisfied as a jedi and went looking to join the Sith anyways
Premieres in 1 mins lets gooo
What if Ayala Secura and Kit Fisto left the Jedi Order?
What if Luminara Unduli fell into dark side?
What if Depa Billaba Survived?
What if Ezra really died in "Fire across the galaxy"?
What if Palpatine didn't die when he fell down the chute on the Death Star in Return of the Jedi? What if he generated enough lightning to go through a wormhole to someplace else?
...or what if Palpatine went through that wormhole and landed on earth?
Finally I’ve been waiting for this video for a long time and now we have it my prediction would be palatine takes asajj or Anakin as a apprentice and helps Anakin defeat the sith and maybe become the grand master and maul will join the sith
Glad you enjoyed it
What if Pre Vizsla killed Maul?
Are there any plans for a part 2 for the “what if earth Vader survived” video you made 9 months ago?
10:50 could anyone please explaine why they always say Anakin was too old to be trained? He was 9 years old if i remember correctly. Luke, Rey and Lea were way older when they started the training. Would be awesome if someone could make sense of it
The idea, at least in the original Expanded Universe (so don't know if they've changed it since) is that the reason Anakin is seen as too old is because traditionally Jedi are brought to the temple as babies (with the consent of the parents in nearly all cases, something people forget all the time), thus they grow up without much connection to their families and old lives, allowing them to avoid becoming attached to them and thus allowing negative emotions like fear to influence their decisions (like we see happen with Anakin being afraid of losing his mother). Anakin was much older when they found him and so had already developed such attachments, which meant he was also more primed to form more such attachments (like with Padme), therefore he wouldn't have been able to make himself purely selfless in the Jedi thought they were supposed to be. This of course was a somewhat flawed premise by the Jedi (since attachments, when handled in a healthy manner, help make the Jedi more empathetic; they practiced a more pure abstinence approach when it came to Dark Side resistance), but that is beside the point; point is, Anakin was well behind the curve as far as emotional intelligence by Jedi standards due to his age. Luke and Leia were trained as Jedi in a different era with different rules in Leia's case and no rules in Luke's case, so those restrictions don't apply; Rey I have no comments on.
My thinking, since Palpatine is with the order, this just delays Plaguis’ plan and HE frees Anakin by killing his mother and over paying Watto for him. He would train Anakin as a politician and a Sith, using mind tricks and other dark tactics to become the youngest Chancellor running against his political rival Padme.