Robert Downey Jr Doctor Doom! Marvel Comic Con Hall H 2024 - BREAKDOWN

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  • Robert Downey Jr Dr Doom today! Reaction, review, breakdown! Marvel Comic Con 2024 Hall H! MCU! Tony Stark Variant? Join Beyond The Trailer to discuss! Avengers Doomsday 2026!
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    Robert Downey Jr Dr Doom today! Beyond The Trailer host Grace Randolph gives her review of the huge news from Comic Con 2024 Marvel Hall H panel! Robert Downey Jr is BACK in the MCU as Doctor Doom, a Tony Stark variant?! Russo Brothers to director Avengers Doomsday 2026! Share your reaction to this breakdown of Robert Downey Jr as Dr Doom before you see the full movie! And be sure to make Beyond The Trailer your first stop for movie and entertainment news here on RUclips today!
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  • @TrevorV.
    @TrevorV. 2 месяца назад +820

    This will either be a surprising stroke of genius, or the moment the MCU jumps the shark.

    • @asura7915
      @asura7915 2 месяца назад +23

      yep,i couldn't have put it better myself

    • @sweeney60
      @sweeney60 2 месяца назад +43

      Downey Shark do do do do do!

    • @AverageJoe483
      @AverageJoe483 2 месяца назад +33

      It jumped the shark awhile ago

    • @willhartman293
      @willhartman293 2 месяца назад +16

      I’m so nervous. The MCU should have really strict castings. From the two actors from previous movies being in Last Dance. To now this.

    • @centripetal6157
      @centripetal6157 2 месяца назад +11

      MCU has been bad for quite some time.

  • @nicolascardillo7615
    @nicolascardillo7615 2 месяца назад +399

    "You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain."

    • @addisontaylor5979
      @addisontaylor5979 2 месяца назад +25

      RDJ gets to do both.

    • @MediaFeverPitch
      @MediaFeverPitch 2 месяца назад +2

      Nice one!

    • @RiceAllives
      @RiceAllives 2 месяца назад +13

      He died a hero and rose again to become the ultimate villain!

    • @nicolascardillo7615
      @nicolascardillo7615 2 месяца назад +2

      @@RiceAllives I Bright Example of Always Over Performing on Every Phase of Life n After It!

  • @chrisclarke4665
    @chrisclarke4665 2 месяца назад +178

    Can't wait for Avengers 7 where every role is played by Robert Downey Jr.

    • @Cheezpopcorn
      @Cheezpopcorn 2 месяца назад

      Coming soon to a multiversity multiversity near you....or us on Earth 616

    • @mk6rfc1
      @mk6rfc1 2 месяца назад

      The Nutty Doomessor

    • @2_572
      @2_572 2 месяца назад +1

      Until he is 90!☠️

  • @garrick5873
    @garrick5873 2 месяца назад +389

    This just seems like the worst desperation on Marvel's part. Casting Downey as some Doom variant is the worst casting decision I've ever heard.

    • @mattcgw
      @mattcgw 2 месяца назад +10

      Yes.

    • @sandal_thong8631
      @sandal_thong8631 2 месяца назад +4

      Unless he never takes the mask off, so we never see it's him! Hardly anyone wants to do a "David Prowse." Darth Vader was once one of the greatest movie villains. But what recognition did the actor playing him get? Anthony Daniels made a lot more appearances in interviews than he ever did.

    • @M_k-zi3tn
      @M_k-zi3tn 2 месяца назад +4

      Why? It makes sense

    • @daarionaharis664
      @daarionaharis664 2 месяца назад +19

      @@M_k-zi3tnno, no it doesn’t. Doom is his own character everyone has been waiting to be done right and now he’s going to be just some Tony stark variant

    • @M_k-zi3tn
      @M_k-zi3tn 2 месяца назад +5

      @@daarionaharis664 I mean that's not really an explanation of why it's illogical. You just don't like the idea of Doom not being a different actor, which I can understand, but in a world of multiverse nonsense, it makes sense.

  • @noredoosno2929
    @noredoosno2929 2 месяца назад +185

    Lotta red flags for me on this one:
    • ⁠I think it kinda sucks that Doom seems more like their panic button after Majors’ scandal, means we get no proper build up for him.
    • ⁠It reeks of desperation. Coming out swinging with “Look guys, it’s Dr. Doom! Played by RDJ! Directed by the Russos!” makes them look like they’re trying to jangle keys in front of an audience.
    • ⁠The fact that he’s going to be played by RDJ makes me worried we’ll get another Ultron where they take a serious and morose villain and make him evil Tony Stark, and also makes me feel like he’s going to constantly take his mask off.
    • ⁠Being introduced in the same Avengers movie where he’s the main villain, as well as the Fantastic Four being from another universe, strongly implies we won’t get a properly developed Reed/Doom dynamic and history.

    • @ericjohnson9623
      @ericjohnson9623 2 месяца назад +5

      There's a lot of good things here, but I think kind of the opposite on the last one. He's the Doom of the F4 universe, as opposed to "our" Doom happening to look like Stark, and will probably have pre-existing beef with Reed given that Feige and the Russos all confirmed the F4 will be major parts of both Avengers films.

    • @thomaspaterson1354
      @thomaspaterson1354 2 месяца назад +2

      With them announcing him now yes obviously they needed an annoncment of doctor doom with the new title but with f4 filming soon they could drop if he's from their universe they could drop him in there as a cameo and then have him in a couple post credits scenes in the movies beforehand

    • @diobrando7759
      @diobrando7759 2 месяца назад

      Pretty much

    • @cinemacosmos6353
      @cinemacosmos6353 2 месяца назад

      I agree with all of that except the point of bringing the Russos being a red flag move. Yes, it's definitely a desperate move, but it's the right move. They NEED the Russos. They struggle without them. They're a huge reason the Infinity Saga reached the greatness it did.

  • @izquierdovisual
    @izquierdovisual 2 месяца назад +278

    You're right, Grace. It makes absolutely no sense to cast Robert Downey Jr as Dr. Doom if he's supposed to be a different character to Tony Stark, and not a variant.

    • @Speck.edits7022
      @Speck.edits7022 2 месяца назад +14

      Read a comic. Same to you Grace.

    • @ArticAnomaly
      @ArticAnomaly 2 месяца назад +10

      They kinda set it up with Deadpool though, they SPOILER had Chris Evans and set him up to be Captain America only to have him as Johnny Storm.

    • @unsopken0623
      @unsopken0623 2 месяца назад

      No need to tell her she is a comic geek​@@Speck.edits7022

    • @vincejester7558
      @vincejester7558 2 месяца назад +8

      @@Speck.edits7022
      Any Stark/ DOOM shenanigans in the source material
      came after 4 or 5 decades of character setup and canon.

    • @space1734
      @space1734 2 месяца назад +9

      ​@@vincejester7558 Not everything in the source material is good

  • @noredoosno2929
    @noredoosno2929 2 месяца назад +165

    If the MCU had not fallen into questionable quality post-Endgame, this reveal would have been insane. It's a feat to turn a beloved hero into a despised villain. Disney/Marvel could have had something special with this. But because the MCU seems to be spiraling, this feels like a desperate way to win fans back.

    • @jaylovespti
      @jaylovespti 2 месяца назад +1

      Uh yeah😂

    • @asura7915
      @asura7915 2 месяца назад +15

      i mean it feels like that because its true

    • @Horus070
      @Horus070 2 месяца назад +3

      Well some people can still get optimistic and excited again❤

    • @m.c4210
      @m.c4210 2 месяца назад +9

      100% dead right. Instead of telling the story with good writing it’s another multi verse gimmick. Shame.

    • @edwardhammond9569
      @edwardhammond9569 2 месяца назад +3

      ​@@m.c4210 even if Doom was a different actor, they'll still be doing different variants for other characters.
      This is the multiverse Saga so they'll obviously end with a multiverse story.

  • @EricWilhelm28
    @EricWilhelm28 2 месяца назад +8

    Can you imagine if the crowd booed when RDJ was revealed? Lol That would have been CRAZY!!

  • @Davidsworldtravels
    @Davidsworldtravels 2 месяца назад +140

    RDJ and Feige to each other: You could not live with your failure and where did that bring you? Back to me

  • @edgar214ER
    @edgar214ER 2 месяца назад +82

    I like how Grace changed into a green shirt with her dragon ball z super sayan hair lol

  • @SONICgokuverine
    @SONICgokuverine 2 месяца назад +120

    If Doom is just a Stark variant, that is such a sad waste of Doctor Doom. Doom deserves his own phase, and Victor deserves to be the menace he is.

    • @Relugus
      @Relugus 2 месяца назад +3

      I think he is playing Doom and he won't take off the mask. RDJ will make him totally different to Stark.

    • @fvalles
      @fvalles 2 месяца назад +6

      @@Relugusif RDJ hadn’t bullied his way into being 50% of Civil War, I would be inclined to agree with you… but I don’t think his ego will allow him. :( I fear this will just be a variant

    • @richierich7229
      @richierich7229 2 месяца назад +8

      ​@@fvallesThat makes no sense. You can't do Civil War without the Cap vs. Iron Man conflict. And it wasn't him who decided to do Civil War. It was Fiege when he heard DC was doing Batman vs. Superman and he quickly repurposed Cap 3 to adapt Civil War.

    • @fvalles
      @fvalles 2 месяца назад +1

      @@richierich7229 it is well known that RDJ was supposed to just have a cameo in Civil War but he strong armed his way into being a co-lead.

    • @DeeDeeDeeeee
      @DeeDeeDeeeee 2 месяца назад +1

      @@fvallesthat’s the thing tho, the whole reason civil was was as successful as it was, was because it was basically just avengers 2.5.

  • @Rockstar-bq5fm
    @Rockstar-bq5fm 2 месяца назад +22

    Coming off something like Deadpool where Multiverse shenanigans worked so well to stunt casting like this?… what a rollercoaster of up and downs the MCU has become

    • @nubby2790
      @nubby2790 2 месяца назад

      Did the shenanigans work in DP&W?

    • @Rockstar-bq5fm
      @Rockstar-bq5fm 2 месяца назад +2

      @@nubby2790: in the context of it being a Deadpool movie yes.

    • @vincejester7558
      @vincejester7558 2 месяца назад +1

      @@nubby2790
      Only because Reynolds flat out tells Fiege that we all hate the multiverse and want it to end.

  • @bethanyduvall9860
    @bethanyduvall9860 2 месяца назад +222

    This feels genuinely embarrassing for both RDJ and the MCU

    • @5678hu
      @5678hu 2 месяца назад +7

      You mean genuinely incredible 😁

    • @shadmanbashar6067
      @shadmanbashar6067 2 месяца назад +14

      @@5678hu nope no way incredible. Doom being a variant of tony stark makes no sense.

    • @5678hu
      @5678hu 2 месяца назад +2

      @@shadmanbashar6067 the greatest Hero in Marvel befcomes its greatest Villain? Shit writes itself 😅

    • @romeostruedude
      @romeostruedude 2 месяца назад +14

      @@5678huwanna know what else writes itself? Doctor Doom’s actual story. Which we won’t be getting now.

    • @vincejester7558
      @vincejester7558 2 месяца назад +2

      RDJ has never had any shame.
      Another mega-paycheck,
      and adoring fanbois.
      All there is to him.

  • @jjsavior
    @jjsavior 2 месяца назад +25

    Can we please stop hanging Marvel's failures on this fictitious Kang situation!? Marvel's terrible writing and production is what got them in trouble along with their greed. Johnathon Majors was just a scapegoat found guilty of a misdemeanor. The fact that everyone in the press is just going along with Disney is so shameful.

  • @gavinlisk2292
    @gavinlisk2292 2 месяца назад +47

    This seems like desperation. Marvel didn't listen to Deadpool and Wolverine, they said people didn't want the multiverse/variants. So what do they do? Double down and have a Stark variant as Doom!!!

  • @SailorDenzzzel
    @SailorDenzzzel 2 месяца назад +240

    "Till' he's 90!" 😂🤣
    PS: you look stunning Grace 🤩💚

    • @annabrenda8694
      @annabrenda8694 2 месяца назад

      Does she?

    • @grudgegopherable
      @grudgegopherable 2 месяца назад

      Simp

    • @SailorDenzzzel
      @SailorDenzzzel 2 месяца назад +3

      @@grudgegopherable now go cry about it

    • @grudgegopherable
      @grudgegopherable 2 месяца назад

      @@SailorDenzzzel LoL triggered?

    • @SailorDenzzzel
      @SailorDenzzzel 2 месяца назад +4

      The irony. You’re the one name calling. How haven’t you realized You’re the one who’s triggered? 💀

  • @pointer2114
    @pointer2114 2 месяца назад +3

    “If he’s a totally different character why is he the same actor? It just didn’t make any sense” Chris Evans who plays Johnny Storm and Captain America standing behind you.

  • @Davidsworldtravels
    @Davidsworldtravels 2 месяца назад +85

    Seems like a REALLY bad idea. RDJ is perfect as Iron Man and he had his story told. Doom needs to really be separated from any other character and be iconic in his own right. They should have really gone with Cillian Murphy. Get someone who is highly respected as an actor and make the choice really mean something. Doom is a gypsy from Europe which is perfect for Cillian since he played in Peaky Blinders for so long.
    RDJ already had his mark and so did the other Avengers. This is an act of desperation.

    • @jmanakajosh9354
      @jmanakajosh9354 2 месяца назад +1

      I’m loving this skepticism and negativity! 😂
      If this all turn out to age like the cheese of 60s Batman, I think I’ve made peace with that.

    • @josephnjuguna1986
      @josephnjuguna1986 2 месяца назад

      Agree 💯

    • @Dontbootit
      @Dontbootit 2 месяца назад

      That would’ve killed his career now. Most marvel actors are cursed

  • @khoro-Mathivha
    @khoro-Mathivha 2 месяца назад +6

    Grace was unhinged today 😂

  • @Desertfox201
    @Desertfox201 2 месяца назад +98

    Next they'll recast Kang with Chris Evans.

    • @Aanya_224
      @Aanya_224 2 месяца назад +5

      😂

    • @abhishekghosh2686
      @abhishekghosh2686 2 месяца назад +5

      Hey Superman can be a great villain then why can't captain😂

    • @ACJando
      @ACJando 2 месяца назад +3

      Denzel Washington next Kang

    • @nvc3334
      @nvc3334 2 месяца назад

      @@ACJandoDenzel only knows how to play one character.

  • @hardhirbajwa542
    @hardhirbajwa542 2 месяца назад +33

    Deadpool will be there... Thor will be there! We will finally know why Thor was crying in Secret Wars! Yaaaaaaaaaas

  • @dynaguy3
    @dynaguy3 2 месяца назад +60

    The MCU just feels like a shell of what it was. The original actors took the roles because they were interested in the characters. But watching that Fantastic Four panel just convinced me all those actors took the job for the paycheck. And RDJ returning just reeks of desperation. I’m just wondering when fans will run out of leftover good will from the good old days

    • @HLDN1989
      @HLDN1989 2 месяца назад +5

      I would tend to agree, but the fact is none of the F4 cast have ever been the co-lead in a big movie like this. For all of them it's the biggest role of their careers - yes including Pedro Pascal.

  • @roberthayes7737
    @roberthayes7737 2 месяца назад +13

    What if Robert Downey Jr's Doom were a variant of Howard Stark? That way he could have the personal connection with Reed Richards in his original 1960s setting.

  • @scarletwitch616
    @scarletwitch616 2 месяца назад +119

    Doctor Doom needs to be done justice and i fear this is not it

    • @jmanakajosh9354
      @jmanakajosh9354 2 месяца назад +1

      Ironically as much as I think they’ll screw this up setting up Fantastic 4 in the 60s feels….yes.

    • @Horus070
      @Horus070 2 месяца назад

      @@scarletwitch616 what if EVERY single show and movie was done perfectly? You probably would be complaining of boredom … how perfection is so trivial! We got to have some bad things in life to enjoy goodness

    • @vincejester7558
      @vincejester7558 2 месяца назад +1

      A cuppla more decades before we see a real DOOM.
      not in my lifetime, I fear.

    • @metallicnole4514
      @metallicnole4514 2 месяца назад +1

      I would have wanted an Eastern European actor for doom

    • @richierich7229
      @richierich7229 2 месяца назад

      ​@@metallicnole4514 Do you know any eastern European actors?

  • @Lukesek20
    @Lukesek20 2 месяца назад +128

    Desperation at it’s finest

    • @BlueHooloovoo
      @BlueHooloovoo 2 месяца назад +2

      Well people like you have been complaining that the MCU hasn't been the same since Endgame. Congratulations, you are getting what you wanted, so quit crying.

    • @johnosmiar9678
      @johnosmiar9678 2 месяца назад +1

      @@BlueHooloovooI’ve not been complaining about the MCU only the bad projects but this is a bad decision. It’s a disservice to Doom, you’re casting an actor of a legacy character to play another iconic one. So, now they’re gonna associate Iron man with Dr Doom. Who by himself can carry a story.

  • @dennisjeppesen9387
    @dennisjeppesen9387 2 месяца назад +119

    I was as shocked to see Grace's emergency stream hair as I was to see RDJ as Doom

    • @david88464
      @david88464 2 месяца назад +12

      I think she also got her green shirt to update the thumbnail, Grace was fast 😎🙏

    • @acglass
      @acglass 2 месяца назад +6

      True professional.

  • @terryaki
    @terryaki 2 месяца назад +79

    DOCTOR DOOM more like doctor dolittle.

    • @5pid3rman80
      @5pid3rman80 2 месяца назад +7

      Oh no!!! 😅😅😅

    • @oli.y
      @oli.y 2 месяца назад +1

      😂

  • @selw0nk
    @selw0nk 2 месяца назад +114

    All they are doing is recycling actors and not using new actors instead.

    • @imtired1696
      @imtired1696 2 месяца назад +7

      To be fair, it's been going on so long, they've used most of the actors atp.

    • @shippendales8543
      @shippendales8543 2 месяца назад +2

      And lets face it Doctor Doom is a big comic character but not really to mainstream audiences

    • @CJM2702
      @CJM2702 2 месяца назад

      @@shippendales8543u could say to that about any comic villain minus probably the joker

    • @Dontbootit
      @Dontbootit 2 месяца назад +3

      When they used new actors and characters they all flopped majorly and you all complained and now you complaining again, chill out, it’s a movie, it’s pretend

    • @vincejester7558
      @vincejester7558 2 месяца назад +1

      @@Dontbootit
      MCU has become community theater,
      and RDJ is the used car lot guy who pays for the sets and costumes,
      so he gets the lead in every play.

  • @RonanThomas
    @RonanThomas 2 месяца назад +6

    Would have LOVED a Cillian Murphy Victor Von Doom

  • @TheDeckOfficer
    @TheDeckOfficer 2 месяца назад +39

    Grace, you were cookin! Avengers Doomsday is a great title. Deadpool and Wolverine brought the vibe back! I’m stunned, baby. I think Matt Smith would’ve been a great Doctor Doom, but I want to see Downey Jr’s take.

    • @CYeoung
      @CYeoung 2 месяца назад +9

      damn now i want Matt

    • @Horus070
      @Horus070 2 месяца назад +3

      I’m excited for RDJ version … it has a great potential

    • @vincejester7558
      @vincejester7558 2 месяца назад +2

      @@Horus070
      We already got it.
      we called it Tony Stark.
      It's the only character RDJ does.

  • @kpsk8031
    @kpsk8031 2 месяца назад +38

    "Is this an out of season April fools' joke?"

    • @ajax4887
      @ajax4887 2 месяца назад +1

      Early Christmas present

    • @danjoshdp6257
      @danjoshdp6257 2 месяца назад

      ​@@ajax4887 not really

  • @Ghosthound_X
    @Ghosthound_X 2 месяца назад +43

    It has now become apparent why Marvel decided to release Deadpool and Wolverine this weekend to put people on a Deadpool high while dropping this confusing ass news 😂

    • @jmanakajosh9354
      @jmanakajosh9354 2 месяца назад +7

      Yeah, normies are like ‘who’s Dr.Doom?’. My parents will be so lost.

    • @taftatlas9142
      @taftatlas9142 2 месяца назад +2

      @@jmanakajosh9354I think Dr Doom is a pretty well known character, even if people just know *about* him and don’t actually consume any of the media. I really don’t know how this is gonna come across to most people

  • @bratsmovies17
    @bratsmovies17 2 месяца назад +37

    Last I remember Tony stark died a hero. Him being a villian will destroy his image. I hate having variants in the MCU. It gove too much freedom of stupid ideas.. I'm ready to throw in the towel

    • @achaudhari101
      @achaudhari101 2 месяца назад +4

      How weak of you.

    • @jmanakajosh9354
      @jmanakajosh9354 2 месяца назад +4

      Throw in what towel? I lowered my expectations after the Russo’s mishandled Endgame’s time skip & Thanos arc.

    • @vincejester7558
      @vincejester7558 2 месяца назад +1

      @@jmanakajosh9354
      Yes.
      The Russos are why we are at this
      miserable pass.
      Why are people happy they are coming back?
      with toilet paper stuck to their shoe?

    • @2_572
      @2_572 2 месяца назад

      Congratulations you are like a comic book fan where you are gonna love it or hate it 😂

  • @shaenoyt
    @shaenoyt 2 месяца назад +32

    Grace roasting RDJ about Doom's beauty scar was the highlight of my day 😂

  • @chrismanahan1533
    @chrismanahan1533 2 месяца назад +29

    RDJ is an amazing actor, so he would probably do well as Doom. But this feels playing safe and at the same time confusing since he already played another character. Antony Starr could have been a better Doom.

  • @RockdownPlus
    @RockdownPlus 2 месяца назад +5

    MCU two steps forward with Deadpool and Wolverine. Then three steps backwards with Downey as Doom😢😢😢😢

  • @josephnjuguna1986
    @josephnjuguna1986 2 месяца назад +8

    Doom and ironman should be distinct characters. This reeks if desperation

  • @bluboy4ver2
    @bluboy4ver2 2 месяца назад +64

    This is going to confuse the hell out of casual fans of the MCU.

    • @BlueHooloovoo
      @BlueHooloovoo 2 месяца назад +6

      Not really. People who are interested in the MCU usually keep up with what's happened. You couldn't of had the success of the other Avengers films if they weren't.

    • @gabrieldelt65
      @gabrieldelt65 2 месяца назад +1

      @@BlueHooloovooYes you could’ve.

    • @DeeDeeDeeeee
      @DeeDeeDeeeee 2 месяца назад +3

      I imagine they will most likely explain it lmao

    • @agentkevon
      @agentkevon 2 месяца назад

      like it’s not gonna be explained in the movie?

  • @Soulful_Sonnets
    @Soulful_Sonnets 2 месяца назад +13

    TomHiddleston's LOKI being the villain and RobertDowneyJr IRON MAN being the hero of the world in Avengers (2012) .
    Now Loki is the saviour of the multiverse and RDJ's DoctorDoom will be the villain to destroy it.

  • @nicolascardillo7615
    @nicolascardillo7615 2 месяца назад +21

    “Your Ancestors Called it Magic, but You Call it Science. I Come From a Land Where They Are One and the Same.”

  • @iikaedenii
    @iikaedenii 2 месяца назад +8

    Wolverine wasn't gone for longer
    His return was announced in 2022, 5 years after he left in 2017 and the same is the case with RDJ cuz he left 5 years ago with Endgame. Equal breaks for both.

    • @AnthonyScott5425
      @AnthonyScott5425 2 месяца назад +5

      But Hugh came back as Wolverine, RDJ is coming back as Doom!! That's a 180 from him playing Iron Man/Tony Stark, albeit Stark and von Doom do share some similarities. Should have DEFINITELY been new actor. Even Mads Mikkelsen would have made a much better recast option, especially as Doctor Strange was in 2016 (8 years ago!).

    • @iikaedenii
      @iikaedenii 2 месяца назад +2

      @@AnthonyScott5425 that's besides the point though, I'm just responding to people saying that wolverine had a longer break

  • @nowhereman3988
    @nowhereman3988 2 месяца назад +18

    Grace I'm loving your energy in this livestream. Kinda seems like you just smoked some weed and I love it haha ^^

    • @5pid3rman80
      @5pid3rman80 2 месяца назад +2

      Hilarious! But, you know, true!

  • @earthdefens7896
    @earthdefens7896 2 месяца назад +62

    So Avengers: Kang's Dynasty was replaced with Doomsday?

    • @david88464
      @david88464 2 месяца назад +18

      Yes, Avengers 5 is now Doomsday

    • @Horus070
      @Horus070 2 месяца назад +13

      And I say thank you Feige … Kang was just boring

    • @GiveonKing
      @GiveonKing 2 месяца назад +3

      @@Horus070honestly…I couldn’t take him seriously. They can give him to young avengers

    • @Horus070
      @Horus070 2 месяца назад +1

      @@GiveonKing 🤣 I think they will swipe him aside too !!!

    • @vincejester7558
      @vincejester7558 2 месяца назад +3

      @@Horus070
      They should have recast RDJ as Kang
      and left DOOM alone.

  • @joonyaboonya
    @joonyaboonya 2 месяца назад +12

    It's starting to feel like Marvel is throwing quality story telling out the door and focusing on shock and spectacle.
    it's becoming harder and harder to be an MCU fan.

    • @ajax4887
      @ajax4887 2 месяца назад +1

      Spectacle can be good

  • @jaylovespti
    @jaylovespti 2 месяца назад +17

    ❤RDJ but feels like a cheap marketing stunt. A new actor would have been better.

    • @david88464
      @david88464 2 месяца назад +2

      The beginnings of the MCU was fun because it seemed they actually went to look for the right actors to portray the characters. Now it seems pure stunt, even the F4 cast seem too many known stars instead of the characters, they went backwards.

    • @bryanferratt6598
      @bryanferratt6598 2 месяца назад

      Just be thankful it's not Tyrese Gibson 😊😅😂.

  • @tusharchauhan9951
    @tusharchauhan9951 2 месяца назад +3

    There were lot of potential actors that they could have casted like Michael Fassbender, Adam Driver or Cillian murphy.

  • @joshuaibrahim1
    @joshuaibrahim1 2 месяца назад +7

    As long as the Avenger movie are great. I don’t care he is doom. Im glad to see him back

  • @Figuringthisoutallatonce
    @Figuringthisoutallatonce 2 месяца назад +97

    This is how the MCU dies….with thunderous applause.

    • @5678hu
      @5678hu 2 месяца назад +2

      This is the absolute opposite of "dying" 😂

    • @dhanushm6557
      @dhanushm6557 2 месяца назад +3

      ​@@5678hu Bro you say that as if most sane people aren't in agreement that casting RDJ as doom is a huge mistake

    • @5678hu
      @5678hu 2 месяца назад +1

      @@dhanushm6557 I love how you put yourself on a high horse before simply stating your dumbass opinion which in no way reflects reality... 😅

    • @dhanushm6557
      @dhanushm6557 2 месяца назад +2

      @@5678hu I said most sane people not rabid fanboys who'll defend anything, do you have a firm grip on reality yourself ? there's no point in arguing let's revisit this conversation when the movies come out

    • @rezza_lynsaii
      @rezza_lynsaii 2 месяца назад +4

      @@5678hu It’s dead.

  • @BelleShadow
    @BelleShadow 2 месяца назад +18

    I loathe this decision. Doom is such a wonderful villain, a complex and brilliant character that deserves a fresh start-- RDJ needs to get his disgusting paws off of him

  • @AdrianBigyes
    @AdrianBigyes 2 месяца назад +1

    Soooo... Technology of the Fantastic 4 vs the Starks... F4 triumphs, Stark Industries suffers... Young Tony Stark wants revenge.

  • @davidkyle5374
    @davidkyle5374 2 месяца назад +8

    I would be disgusted if Scarlett Johansson is the only original avenger that doesn’t come back

    • @hmw4166
      @hmw4166 2 месяца назад +7

      Why though? So far She is the only one with dignity to not do cheap cash grab

    • @Ray03595
      @Ray03595 2 месяца назад +2

      She also sued Disney so doubt they are exactly on friendly terms right now.

    • @mywifesboyfriend5558
      @mywifesboyfriend5558 2 месяца назад +2

      She's not a great actress, she's just hot. Plenty of other hot actresses.

    • @kurtmaryville4941
      @kurtmaryville4941 2 месяца назад +1

      I’m sure she will come back as Nightcrawler or something.

  • @TN-cn8kk
    @TN-cn8kk 2 месяца назад +2

    9:07 “flame on baby… in every way possible” Grace was absolutely cracking me up this stream 😂 just how shocked she was in the beginning too. Marvel is certainly making… choices.

  • @curtismn31
    @curtismn31 2 месяца назад +3

    The most scariest thing is when the hero becomes the villain. Love it

  • @EvanSol919
    @EvanSol919 2 месяца назад +1

    From a PR move this is great. They needed everyone to forget about Kang and Jonathan Majors. Now everyone will be discussing whether or not this was a good idea.

  • @Ne0Nights
    @Ne0Nights 2 месяца назад +77

    Honestly I hate it so much. It’s lazy casting, lazy storytelling. It dooms the future of the character and it’s incredibly disrespectful unless it’s just a one off and they recast later on. Not to mention it’s whitewashed casting

    • @jurgenmathiae6682
      @jurgenmathiae6682 2 месяца назад +2

      Language 😉

    • @Horus070
      @Horus070 2 месяца назад

      @@Ne0Nights simple … don’t watch … life will go on .. we will go on !!!

    • @Ne0Nights
      @Ne0Nights 2 месяца назад

      @@Horus070 doesn’t change the fact that marvel is now 5 for 5 when it comes to whitewashing Romani characters

    • @antorcha2
      @antorcha2 2 месяца назад +1

      Disrespectful to who? Lazy storytelling? You don’t even know the basic plot. Whitewashed? What? Who cares if “in the comics” the character is a certain way. These are the movies, not the comic books. you gotta give them the benefit of doubt (Russo + Feige gave us arguably 4 of the best CB movies ever)

    • @Ne0Nights
      @Ne0Nights 2 месяца назад

      @@antorcha2 disrespectful to the comic version. Giving one of Doom’s best stories to an iron man variant is idiotic and a waste of Secret Wars and a waste of Doom. Maybe pick up a comic book for once

  • @TJUC123
    @TJUC123 2 месяца назад +1

    I think it makes perfect sense on why he’s the same actor without being a Tony Stark variant. When he fights the Avengers, they won’t know how to feel fighting someone that looks like Tony. It will mess with their minds. He will look like Tony. He will sound like Tony. He just won’t be Tony. But all they will see is Tony.

  • @moxyblackfiddler
    @moxyblackfiddler 2 месяца назад +21

    Bad move. This wreaks of desperation. This is what happens when you listen to the " fans." They've had their ears to the ground too long.

    • @Yehoshua66
      @Yehoshua66 2 месяца назад +1

      Reeks* just a friendly correction!! I often get them confused but wreak is like wreaking havoc. Reeking is a bad smell.

    • @apjoeapjoe
      @apjoeapjoe 2 месяца назад

      What fans asked for this?

    • @moxyblackfiddler
      @moxyblackfiddler 2 месяца назад

      @apjoeapjoe notice I wrote "fans".

    • @moxyblackfiddler
      @moxyblackfiddler 2 месяца назад

      @@Yehoshua66 thanks.

  • @Datdude972
    @Datdude972 2 месяца назад +1

    Absolutely loves when Grace gets excited about a story and drops f-bombs🥰🥰🥰. Also completely agree with her take 😬, here we go.

  • @tommyverse
    @tommyverse 2 месяца назад +3

    I never really thought it would happen but I can actually see the MCU rebooting now, since this story was a big reboot in the comics.

  • @TheJudgementofDog
    @TheJudgementofDog 2 месяца назад +1

    You can feel the desperation in every move they make.

  • @mescalooc
    @mescalooc 2 месяца назад +4

    can marvel please just start casting romani actors for romani characters .. especially when dooms ethnicity is so important to his story

    • @jmanakajosh9354
      @jmanakajosh9354 2 месяца назад

      Well, i mean they replaced Howard with Don Cheadle they were saying all the black people look the same. Where did you get the idea that they see Romani people at all over there at Marvel?

  • @robtalamelli5619
    @robtalamelli5619 2 месяца назад +2

    My head hurts with this decision I don’t know how else to process it

  • @davidkzzier828
    @davidkzzier828 2 месяца назад +19

    RDJ in Marvel prints money and is clearly marvel trying to bring back the OG audience. Its a bold move, and i think RDJ can pull it off!

  • @lucyvanlipton7433
    @lucyvanlipton7433 2 месяца назад +2

    Shout out to Grace for pulling this together at like midnight ❤❤❤

  • @jayholm2142
    @jayholm2142 2 месяца назад +5

    I'm so sorry I didn't catch you live ☺️, such big news to take in😱!

  • @LEOIAMLEOONYOUTUBE
    @LEOIAMLEOONYOUTUBE 2 месяца назад +7

    This kinda feels like elder abuse if they're gonna be doing this till they're 90.
    First, Hugh Jackman, then, RDJ.
    Who's next?

    • @achaudhari101
      @achaudhari101 2 месяца назад +2

      How is it elder abuse if they were/are cool with coming back for one last time?

    • @charlescoleman2140
      @charlescoleman2140 2 месяца назад

      I’d be fine if Chris Evans came back as Cap 🫣

    • @achaudhari101
      @achaudhari101 2 месяца назад

      @@treesoul00 I think he’s like $50-$75 million to get back in.

  • @seanohalloran384
    @seanohalloran384 2 месяца назад +3

    “Robert Doomy Junior” Lol. Great video!

  • @tacoreibrown6560
    @tacoreibrown6560 2 месяца назад +26

    I think my main issue with the RDJ casting is it just comes across as very desperate. there were so many better choices…

    • @jonnyfendi2003
      @jonnyfendi2003 2 месяца назад

      Like who?? The acolyte actors???

    • @tacoreibrown6560
      @tacoreibrown6560 2 месяца назад

      @jonnyfendi2003 i think someone said cillian murphy could work but now after hearing the casting yeah he needs to stay away from the mcu

    • @a.skywalker4882
      @a.skywalker4882 2 месяца назад +1

      @@tacoreibrown6560you are talking as if Cillian Murphy was interested

    • @tacoreibrown6560
      @tacoreibrown6560 2 месяца назад

      @@a.skywalker4882 well he has played a comic book villain before in the past but i don't think he wants to play another comic book villain again and he probably getting ready to film the peaky blinders movie

  • @Wolfhunter5607
    @Wolfhunter5607 2 месяца назад +9

    He’s gonna play Black panther next huh

  • @Callmejaviofficial
    @Callmejaviofficial 2 месяца назад +1

    With Chris Evans as Human Torch in Deadpool it could set the groundwork for RDJ not being a variant.

  • @diobrando7759
    @diobrando7759 2 месяца назад +7

    You can die a hero and multiverse again as a villain

  • @garydodd2837
    @garydodd2837 2 месяца назад +1

    Rdj is a phenomenal actor and he can will pull it off..when he said worlds greatest actor i though Meryl Streep as Victor???

  • @SamFuller1989
    @SamFuller1989 2 месяца назад +3

    I'm gonna make a hail Mary statement and call that this is a Colin Farrell/Fantastic Beast style red herring. Real Doom TBD.

  • @subham469
    @subham469 2 месяца назад +2

    Can't wait for next comic con when they reveal Ryan Reynolds as Iron Fist.

  • @tamiej.5558
    @tamiej.5558 2 месяца назад +20

    I'm afraid they're going to make him another Ultron, who just cracks jokes the whole time.

  • @johnjimenez241
    @johnjimenez241 2 месяца назад +1

    Grace, that faux “I have a scar”’ thing you did is the best 3 seconds of RUclips I have seen in a while! Love the reaction!

  • @AnthonyScott5425
    @AnthonyScott5425 2 месяца назад +5

    Great to catch you live, Grace, albeit it's nearly 5am here (London, UK). I still can't believe this casting news 🤯. It HAS to be a Tony Stark variant, but would have much preferred a PROPER Doom casting. This feels very gimmick/sentimental driven. Even if they pivot down the line and decide to do Doom again, this will unequivocally take away from that. Feige 💯% missed a trick in not casting Marcin Dorociński as Victor von Doom.

  • @acglass
    @acglass 2 месяца назад +2

    Regarding feeling the impact of Doom stealing Sue from Reed, X-Men ‘97 gave us Genosha and removed it in the same episode, and it may be the beat episode if the series… so done right Marvel can introduce the FF and give us the feels about losing Sue within two movies.

  • @timmaloney4216
    @timmaloney4216 2 месяца назад +4

    Ive never heard anyone say Iron Man had become the villain. What an odd take. "All the fans were disgusted"... huh?

    • @abhikmoj5853
      @abhikmoj5853 2 месяца назад +3

      She keeps coming up with said eccentric takes from project to project, it has become part of the entertainment at this point 😂

    • @apjoeapjoe
      @apjoeapjoe 2 месяца назад +1

      Personally I was Team Iron Man in the Civil War. 🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @jeshuamathis9013
    @jeshuamathis9013 2 месяца назад +1

    I appreciate you Grace🎉

  • @david88464
    @david88464 2 месяца назад +36

    This is genuinely the thing that may have finally broken the MCU for me. Too much like playing dress-up.
    Horrible, horrible idea that reeks of desperation.

    • @SixTHSUN63
      @SixTHSUN63 2 месяца назад +9

      Too much like “we have no idea how to move forward, so we’ll just hold on to what worked before”. I don’t understand, if you’re gonna take the time to adapt Dr. Doom, bring him into the movies, why not just make him his own character?? Victor Von Doom is such an interesting character on his own, who has interesting relationships with all the characters we’ve previously seen. WHY dilute that by turning Tony Stark into him?? If you weren’t ready for RDJ to leave the MCU, you shouldn’t have killed him off, on top of getting rid of Cap at the same time. I’m starting to question the decision making going on here😒

    • @david88464
      @david88464 2 месяца назад +1

      @@SixTHSUN63 Yeah, unfortunately destroys the Doom character even if he's not a Variant, turning him into a gimmick.

    • @Davidsworldtravels
      @Davidsworldtravels 2 месяца назад +5

      Yes exactly! Enough with the damn variants. The multiverse stuff failed. No more variants and just have unique characters again. Now it’s just dress up musical chairs.

    • @achaudhari101
      @achaudhari101 2 месяца назад

      Are you three that selfish to think the real version of Doom should be introduced and killed off after two movies? I don’t think either of you understand the severe backlash if that were to happen.

    • @josephnjuguna1986
      @josephnjuguna1986 2 месяца назад

      Agree 💯

  • @herbertscott9575
    @herbertscott9575 2 месяца назад +1

    I love it. The key is to not overthink it. We got great directors, a great franchise, a great actor and a great villain.

  • @Mark-gq8ei
    @Mark-gq8ei 2 месяца назад +6

    You can RDJ’s soul leaving his body when he takes that mask off lol

    • @LukasLikesMoney
      @LukasLikesMoney 2 месяца назад +1

      I disagree lol, an actor isn’t gonna get upset while a room is going ballistic over their presence

  • @anasnadeemashraf1982
    @anasnadeemashraf1982 2 месяца назад +3

    RDJ as Iron man fighting RDJ as Doom😂😂😂

  • @JPinnix1818
    @JPinnix1818 2 месяца назад +4

    1984 secret wars (12 issues) is amazing and should inspire this story. Heroes (avengers, FF, Spidey[s]) vs Villians (led by Doom) vs X-men vs Galactus. All on battleworld. Bring us this, Russo Bros ‼️

    • @sandal_thong8631
      @sandal_thong8631 2 месяца назад

      It was a gimmick to sell toys and comics. The art was bad and the story was lame.

    • @vincejester7558
      @vincejester7558 2 месяца назад

      @@sandal_thong8631
      And the MCU is any better?

    • @mywifesboyfriend5558
      @mywifesboyfriend5558 2 месяца назад

      ​@@sandal_thong8631Secret Wars was awesome, and is known as one of the best Marvel stories.
      Stay salty, but nobody agrees with you.
      Also, you act like selling toys and merchandise is bad. If you hate capitalism, take a hike.
      No replies will be seen or read
      Case closed.

  • @rickardlindstrom4921
    @rickardlindstrom4921 2 месяца назад +1

    So Dr. Doom takes of his mask, and reveals that he’s really Dr. Doolittle?! 🤯 Avengers Doolittlesday 😱

  • @mcflyguy8873
    @mcflyguy8873 2 месяца назад +29

    I don’t like the RDJ casting

    • @bryanferratt6598
      @bryanferratt6598 2 месяца назад +1

      At least it's not Tyrese Gibson 😊😅😂.

    • @foxinateapot1832
      @foxinateapot1832 2 месяца назад +2

      Can't be. Forehead too big.​@@bryanferratt6598

  • @darrendowning6644
    @darrendowning6644 2 месяца назад +1

    From the greatest hero to the greatest villian....full circle... love it

  • @xBLiiDz
    @xBLiiDz 2 месяца назад +4

    My guess: RDJ Tony Stark was the only variant that chose the good path. The rest are simply Doom in every multiverse.

  • @lars7282
    @lars7282 2 месяца назад +2

    I HONESTLY think that Feige/Disney suddenly decided: Oh, nobody cares about our new stories and the „taking the mantle“ characters, but people DO go to the theatre to see Cameo-Apocalypse-movies like Spider-Man3, Deadpool 3 and stuff like that. So we JUST need spectacle and that’s it.
    I also think RDJ was in talks for coming back as an AI for a new character that also no one wanted and then they quickly were like: Safest way would be to give u a whole character, Robert, can u please do that?

    • @lars7282
      @lars7282 2 месяца назад +1

      Also the general audience isn’t craving for „seeing different versions of those characters“, so I don’t know why Feige is counting on this …

  • @knowwon3658
    @knowwon3658 2 месяца назад +36

    They're giving up. The entire MCU will be rebooted after this.

  • @c3elisah
    @c3elisah 2 месяца назад +7

    I do agree it could be cool to see Auntie Angie as Storm but it would also be cool to see her mini-me, Keke Palmer, as Storm!

    • @jonnyfendi2003
      @jonnyfendi2003 2 месяца назад +1

      Keke doesn’t have that acting range

  • @Michael_Hester
    @Michael_Hester 2 месяца назад +13

    If we get enough actor playing different roles, it would end up like American Horror Story: MCU

    • @LukasLikesMoney
      @LukasLikesMoney 2 месяца назад +1

      AHS apocalypse walked so mcu multiverse could run at a moderate pace 😭

  • @WRDend
    @WRDend 2 месяца назад +1

    I noticed that people who like this:
    1. Know nothing about Doom.
    2. Know nothing about other RDJr performances.
    3. Tony Stark>Iron Man fans.

  • @blueprint94
    @blueprint94 2 месяца назад +3

    I think the only way this could work is if we never see his face, which idk if RDJ will agree to that

  • @JessicaGarcia-sz5dt
    @JessicaGarcia-sz5dt 2 месяца назад +5

    They obviously want to retread previous success at whatever cost

    • @jmanakajosh9354
      @jmanakajosh9354 2 месяца назад +1

      Then they need to get rid of Feige & Iger’s meddling & rehire the people who made Civil War & Winter Soldier.

    • @JessicaGarcia-sz5dt
      @JessicaGarcia-sz5dt 2 месяца назад +1

      @@jmanakajosh9354I thought Grace said recently that they did rehire the Russos which makes sense

  • @AverageJoe483
    @AverageJoe483 2 месяца назад +16

    I just want a film with a comic accurate Apocalypse.

    • @vincejester7558
      @vincejester7558 2 месяца назад +3

      This feels like the Marvel-pocolypse to me.

  • @LukasLikesMoney
    @LukasLikesMoney 2 месяца назад +1

    I have to say, for better or worse, this is the first time I’ve been even thinking about the MCU after so long. This definitely grabbed attention.

  • @tomasayala3399
    @tomasayala3399 2 месяца назад +5

    this narrative that just cuz of civil war rdj lost the audience is insane

  • @cerealkiller193
    @cerealkiller193 2 месяца назад +1

    My take is that since people have largely been in superhero fatigue and not selling tickets that bringing back Robert is the best way to get fans excited as he has always been the big popular ticket seller. I'm excited and curious personally. We miss him!❤