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who upset that he try to find his twin brother? Are you nuts? it's really touching and sweet. It just because he thought that their parents are dead. Find your brother, Billy. And then working together to find your parents
THIS. It is driving me insane. It actually made me emotional for how heartfelt it is. We rarely get a sibling relationship centered motivation, a fantastical one in fact. Him wanting to find his brother, someone he could actually relate to, is so touching.
id rather have wanda find him, it would give her more agency. billy finding his brother was easy to predict but it makes sense. i also enjoy the complexity of having to deal with survivor's guilt (both tommy and kaplan's soul lost).
After that I could only imagine the rest of the scene without the background music, and Billy acting tough. Yeah, just as cringy as you imagine it would be if it was a real life interaction😅
You’ve gotta watch the video with the sound on lol she said that he never sought out his brother and that it just sorta happened, but that he always had an affinity to Wanda.
@@albelvalentine8983no. I hate Joe’s casting but I LOVE that he’s looking for Tommy instead. From what I’ve seen most of the haters are just Wanda stans
@@Ne0Nightsdo you mind if I ask why you don't like Joe Lock as Wiccan? I'm a pretty big Wiccan fan and I think he fits the role pretty well in terms of looks, I was a little unsure of how he would play the character, but at this point in the series, I'm pretty happy with his acting. But I'm curious why people don't like him.
I think the origin change also comes from the pov that general audiences wouldn’t understand how someone can be Wanda’s son and yet also not. This way is more “streamlined”
You should try reading a comic. Origins are similar in both ways. Wanda “creates” children from nothing. They “die”. (Both shown in Wanda tv show)Their souls find bodies (in todays episode it was Billy) Pretty straight forward for general audience to understand
Yeah, I thought this was close enough to the comics but also digestible to general audiences. Oh this boy died then the soul of Billy revived in him, okay now that’s Wanda’s son in the body of the Kaplan’s son.
That's clearly their internal reasoning, but they aren't giving audiences enough credit. The only complicated part of his and Tommy's backstory are the multiple retcons where their souls come from, not that they got reincarnated in the past.
So he was part of the coven. Remember when Lilia drew a heart for the fourth witch (the boyfriend text mentions a black heart and they try to link it to Rio) It makes sense now, because of the sigil she couldn't write his name.
Omg that is sooo good, great catch! So he will be doing the Earth trial then, not Rio... which makes sense because of his corpse possession / revival. 🔥
That "The Ballad of Witches' Road" song by Lorna Wu (Alice's mother) really gave me goosebumps, given now we know it was a protection spell. How poetically beautiful that this song was the one to help Billy in figuring out his identity. ❤️🔮
as someone who doesn't know the first thing about wiccan, for me it all looks like it's unfolding as it's supposed to. this show should've been called "wiccan all along" 😄
I loved loved LOVED this episode!! Joe Locke did a phenomenal job I’m so pleased with his performance. He only gets better! I’m excited to see where it goes
His performance in all the dramatic scenes was soooo flat and uninteresting, he looked like a deer in headlights, like he does not know how to emote. He really does not know how to show the subtle difference between mad, sad, scared, its all the same across the board. The comedy is on point tho.
I think it's just people's wishful thinking of wanting Wanda back as soon as possible. But it absolutely makes sense he'd be looking for his literal TWIN brother.
Yeah. Billy looking for his brother makes a lot more sense to me. Given how evil Wanda became, and how she died (not just physically, but thematically), I struggle to see how Marvel can even reintroduce her in a way that doesn't feel forced. Surely they can't make her a hero again.
Totally. It makes sense to try and find your alive brother and not dead parents. And it makes sense for this small show to be allowed to deal with “smaller” characters and not Wanda.
I think Lilia put the sigil on William because she saw that if Wanda found Billy while under the influence of the Darkhold, he wouldve been corrupted too or put into great danger
The interrogation scene from Billy’s point of view was HYSTERICAL 🤣 Kathryn Hahn & Joe Locke have incredible comedic chemistry! I wouldn’t be surprised if a lot of that was improvised.
Billy wanting to find Tommy actually makes me so emotional. To have a motivation around a sibling relationship is so rare. It also makes so much sense because he is the only one he could relate to and have a shared experience with. Also Agatha saying Wanda is not only dead but chose the townsfolk over them means he has differing emotions at the moment. Im sure they'll find her soon but it is some jucy angst.
Yo F**k all those trolls that wrote this show off before it released because this has been a BANGER show and this episode just invigorated my excitement about having freaking WICCAN in the MCU now and maybe Tommy by the end. The writing, plot, dialogue, effects, and sets have been top notch.
Billy’s new origin is totally fine. Just as X-Men 97 did with its story arcs, it’s condensed and streamlined decades worth of convoluted plots and retcons into one cohesive narrative that communicates the comic lore in an elegant and sleek way.
Idk but killing off the comic version of the character is a horrible choice. The only thing that could save it is if Kaplan is just buried within him, not dead, and he unlocks both versions of himself by the end
The amount of hate Joe has gotten online for his appearance is disgusting. I can’t imagine that criteria for liking a character/casting/person is that you have to deem them personally attractive. Imagine living such a shallow life.
whattt were they thinking comic wiccan was hot so they want the actor to be hot 😂 I think joe is very cute but that’s also not that important he embodies the character so well and is so lovable 🥺 every character is amazing but I think joe is the heart of the show
Wiccan is also given multiple looks in this show, some are better than others on him (he looks the best in his crown imo). Who's to say what the future holds too? He could get the Marvel beefcake treatment if they so desired. I just don't think its Jac's taste, but they did this for Tom Hiddleston and Kumail. Joe is charismatic and fundamentally that is the most important, his looks imo fit the bill for his character too.
I'm confused. Do people think Joe Locke is too attractive or not attractive enough to be Wiccan? If the comics images I've seen are anything to go by, I think he fits the role physically well enough, and he's knocking it out of the park with the performance.
@@Siansonea Sadly there are people in the world are actually upset at the Joe Locke casting because they deem him insufficiency attractive to play a fictional teenager
I have to disagree, Grace!!! Billy and Tommy were extremely close in WandaVision. They had brotherly teasing and banter, but they were a very tight-knit duo during the show. Wanda was also 100% a telepath during WandaVision and prior even; it’s been directly mentioned many times. It’s the whole reason why Billy *even has* the ability at all. Just some inconsistencies I noticed. I love you so much Grace, thank you for the video!!
Right? Its driving me insane that people say it doesnt make sense for him to find tommy. Its rhe only person he can relate to and have a shared experience with and trauma together.
@@awesdrew348 you misunderstood me. I was saying that they were MEAN to one another at times, perhaps insinuating that they’re not close. But as you so well put, all siblings tease each other.
I think maybe all the posters and decoration in Billy Kaplan’s room was to show that Billy Kaplan was a fan of magic and witches, also why he had palm reading at his bat mitzvah. I think this coupled with the witches sigil (and maybe because of the same name) drew Billy Maximoff’s soul to Billy Kaplan
I love that Agatha, while villainous, was not at all mad at Billy for exploding. She was almost proud of him? And instantly started mentoring(while also antagonizing, cuz villain)
Yes! This is why I might hold out hope for liking Billy. Bc unlike some, I love and adore Joe Locke, i just don’t care for the Wiccan storyline when I feel it kind of ruined the show I was obsessed with in 1-4. I love their chemistry and I love the actor, but a Wiccan/ Billy storyline without her would not interest me in the slightest. This was the perfect amount bc it had very little moody road billy who i just don’t like. I mean, did he totally miss her sobbing over his body and demanding Jen and the other witches do something when they were ready to leave it to “He’s young, he’s strong.” Jen had not even bothered to think about water and moonlight until Agatha is begging her in tears. Then she sits by him all night like, who the F are you? She remained protective the whole time, even when she knew chances were he wasn’t hers, and Rio confirmed it.’ He devastated her last episode and that’s when her full walls came back up. She’d been acting like a softy until she realized once again she’s alone and no one cares about her.
I don't get at all the people that are upset about him looking for Tommy. It makes perfect sense for him to want to find his twin!! They are bonded the same way Wanda and Pietro are. It's really sweet. We will get Wanda back.. they are settling it up to happen in a movie with a big build-up. I'm more excited to get Speed back! Especially if they refuse to give us Quicksilver
I am a huge wiccan fan. I have every single comic that he has ever been in, all in chronilogical order in my comics bookcase. I absolutely loved what they did with Wiccan in the MCU. I think they are introducing him perfectly, even down to showing that he is a gay character without making him being gay his whole personality. I am so happy and proud! This so far is my favorite Disney plus show.
I feel like marvel should give certain directors rights to characters. They should assign certain characters to these directors. like Jac schafer should always be in charge of Wanda, Agatha, Billy and the whole Maximoff/Harkness family. Clearly she knows how to handle these fragile and deep characters. Jac should be involved in every project where marvel is planning to use these characters.
I agree! She doing God's work with small screen projects, I hope she gets a big screen MCU protect soon, cuz she'd do it justice! Ofcourse, in line with Wanda , Agatha, Billy and the rest.
I loooove the change they made. It's so tragic 😭 but it makes sense for the cinematic universe. And my gosh does Joe capture Billy so beautifully 🥰 I just want to protect him. And it totally makes sense that hes searching for Tommy! Im a long-term Scarlet Witch and Young Avengers superfan. Billy's story is hitting all the right beats for me.
I guess the only refuge about the "stealing bodies" bit is this: Because of the sigil, Billy Maximoff was fully embracing he was Billy Kaplan for those 3 years because he couldnt remember his Maximoff life (thanks Lilia) He knew something was wrong but... off screen he was embracing his Kaplan identity so "he became him"
Joe Locke is amazing. I am really glad they cast him as Wiccan and he will be an amazing one. Also, I am really glad he thought about his brother first. I can understand people want Wanda back ASAP but it doesn't make sense for Billy to search for her first when he senses his brother is alive somewhere. You would definately search for your brother if that happens to you. I loved this episode, even the "controversial" stuff.
I unsubscribe from four YT channels, channels I’ve watched for four years, due to true misogynistic comments. I’m loving this series and realized I don’t need to support bs. Love me some grace.
I thought it made sense when the Kaplans heard WandaVision ep 1 on the radio because as Wanda started bringing down the hex the first time her undoing magic was causing everything in the town to shift through the different time decades at random, so it would make sense that outside the hex there would be broadcasted random moments/scenes/sound bytes of Wanda’s show also.
Joe Locke has me under a spell, especially in this episode ✨ also I have to say I loved how Agatha told him not to apologise for surviving and his power, that really hit my heart especially as it highlights the parallels of shame within the LGBTQ community and I think that was beautifully done 🫶🏼
The sheer amount of ugly comments I’ve seen online about Joe Locke and Wiccan, all because the show diverted to its B plot for just one episode, is astounding. And it hurts a lot more because a lot of what I’m seeing is coming from Lesbian or other LGBTQ watchers who are mad Agatha and Rio are not front and Center for every episode. They resort to homophobia and calling him a “twink” for what? For literally nothing than just to be rude as if Billy isn’t one of the most important lgbt characters of all time.
There has been a lot of femme phobia about him the role from before the show streamed. The character is not particularly effeminate. I just think it’s a loud minority of LGBT who only wants representation so long as it fits their narrow definition .
I haven’t seen any of those comments, thankfully, but it’s depressing to hear that. It sounds like a similar issue to the gays who were angry that Joe Locke’s Wiccan is more “feminine” than the Wiccan they’d envisioned when reading his comics. It’s the burden of representation, not only do you get hate from the psychotic rightwingers, but you’re also put under the magnifying glass from the minority you represent, so starved of representation they want you to represent them perfectly. But the truth is, one character can never represent all of us perfectly, because we’re ALL different! Personally I think he’s doing an incredible job. I can’t even imagine how moving it would have been for me to watch this show back I was a confused curly-haired gay teen too. I know that online discourse today is often so hateful, but when I was a teen this kind of representation simply didn’t exist at all. Wiccan’s existence in the MCU feels meaningful and powerful to me, and I’m enjoying every moment we get to see Joe bring him to life on screen. I love this show, but not just because it’s full of gays, but because it’s so bloody good, so well acted, and so well written too.
Astounding how mostly homophobia is just disguised as 'fan opinion'. The lengths people will go to to just hate on a KID minding their own business is amazing.
Wasn’t an Agatha fan after WandaVision. Had little interest in this show when it was announced. Yet… totally impressed with the writing and performances so far. Hahn especially really is a powerhouse actress. Very invested in the story, excited for every new episode, and really hoping they stick the landing. Also hoping this is a strong signal that Feige and the MCU are getting their act together again.
When Billy said he found a guy on Reddit who could explain what happened in Westview I was chanting Ralph Bohner's name and sure enough he returned and it was absolutely hilarious
A detail I really liked about the telepathy was Billy saying how he only can hear minds when something really intense is happening inside the person, like Vision “dying” outside Westview walls, William’s parents freaking out when he comes home and isn’t the same, etc. - will help avoid plot holes in the future of “Why didn’t he just read their mind?”
Maybe I'm overthinking it, but this episode was so sad to me. With William passing away and being lost, but his parents not knowing their original son is gone. And how confused and scared Billy is in the midst of all this change. i dunno. I really felt the loss of William even though he was only there briefly.
I agree with you Grace about these comic book sticklers/purists regarding Wiccan. I don't know how ubiquitous the TOXIC portion of the fandom is (almost certainly less than the Star Wars fandom), but the general complainers out there are gonna gripe about Billy's origin and motivations. I think the MCU did a MASTERFUL take on Billy by simplifying the over-the-top and overly complex comic-book origin and reducing it down to its most essential essence. And it makes FAR MORE sense, in the context of the MCU, for Billy's primary motivation to be his TWIN brother. These complainers are not taking the CONTEXT into consideration. Due to the events in WandaVision, these boys already had a different backstory than in the comics and are starting from a completely different place than where their journey began in the comics. But even with the comic-purists complaints, their comments certainly fall short of the toxicity in Star Wars comments these days.
I actually really liked seeing Billy's POV of his and Agatha's first meeting. I thought it was good, light humor seeing how Billy is just like a silly kid trying to get answers in a clumsy way but Agatha's POV made him out to be this highly effective, trained burglar.
I think yes, but not physically. Rio just projected herself into the illusion. In Agatha’s view Rio was watching the interrogation from behind the mirror, that was in reality just a painting.
In episode 4, after Sharon is dead and they’re discussing needing a green witch, Billy says “people can’t be replaced” and Agatha looks at him and goes “Can’t they?” And they share a brief look where he looks nervous. I think she did in fact start piecing it together from the beginning even though part of her maybe hoped he was somebody else.
No one bats an eye when Monica gets an episode on Wandavision but when Billy gets an episode a portion of the Agatha/Rio shippers have a breakdown. It’s like they’ve never seen a tv show and are shocked more than one or two characters can be focused on. I love all 3 characters and their dynamics so it’s sad to see how some of the fandom is acting especially when they’re obviously gonna get an episode dedicated to their past soon.
Agatha/Rio barely have screen time as it is, so why are fans suddenly mad at this episode? The whole season is under delivering for them if they are just worried about screen time.
People were salty then, too lol. We just have even more vocal opinions online. In reality, they don’t really exist, they’re just a salty minority of the viewership
It makes sense that Billy would call for Tommy first because they were sleeping in the same room, he was calling out for the nearest person to him. He didn’t know that he body snatched William
I loved seeing the interrogation from Billy’s view! I also think it was necessary for viewers who didn’t totally get the first episode was entirely through the twisted lens of Agatha’s imprisoned mind.
Of course finding his TWIN Tommy is Billy’s (first) goal*, being a twin is a very strong connection. Then if you add to that as far as he knows Wanda is dead and Vision is scrap. *he can sense Tommy too.
I love that billy was the black heart on the list. He is a witch of their coven all along. Why cant it be both agatha and billys show. Why does it have to be only one person. I think they are doing a good job telling both stories. And im verry happy the both the main characters are lgbt and extremely powerful with depth and emotions and treated like humans. Not the shallow stereotypes many shows have made lgbt characters out to be in the past.
How could anyone not like Joe? He’s freaking adorable and a great actor. I also don’t mind the changes since they’ve been changing things all the way back to Wandavision. They left out Mephisto entirely and how the twins were created. The original story line can be quite confusing and I think they’re trying to make it a little more simple for the average viewer, and they also can’t jump forward 18 years to have Billy and Tommy bc completely reborn.
Agatha is not even the same version as from the comic far from it yet Billy's arc is being done in a very clever way people forget Agatha all along was something that became so popular in WANDAVISION that her show is even named after the song. Billy getting a one episode charactor develpoment backstory is only gonna help show Agatha's growth as a character which we saw she had actual tears in her eyes.
Once I tried to explain Billy and Tommy's comic bock origin story to a friend who is just casual viewer. She begged me to stop half way through. She thought the whole thing was just too weird and complicated, so I totally understand why MCU simplified it. I do feel the "Heaven Can Wait" trope is a bit cliche but since the scene is so well acted I will allow it.
I disagree. Her accidentally killing Alice (who she somewhat cared about coz coven and who tried to save her) and Billy starting to blame her just really reminded Agatha who she “is”. People keep telling her she is bad so she becomes “bad”. It’s in KH’s acting in her scenes with Billy.
Remember in Doctor Strange 2, Wanda said she could sense them. She was sensing them across the universes, but she was probably sensing them here all along, and didn't even realize it because of the sigil!
HARD DISAGREE about Billy’s version of Agatha’s illusion. That was amazing and so funny! My roommate and I were both laughing so hard. And it makes it fun to go back and watch the first episode with this context in mind.
The posters also symbolize his future coven. Cauldron - Jennifer is the potions witch. Wizard of Oz - Lilia’s trial. Alice in Wonderland - Alice.. duh.
11:34 The reason for the choice that William Kaplan would be into magic/fantasy movies, is so that Lilia could be at his bar mitzvah. In the pamphlets at the -church- synagogue (thanks for the correction knighthawk) you can see “Welcome to my Magic Mitzvah” or something like that. He was basically having a magic themed party, so they hired a fortune teller.
@@knighthawk3749 I’m sorry, synagogue, you’re completely right. My country is overwhelmingly catholic so that’s a lack of culture on my part. I’ve made an edit to the comment (not the sneaky kind, the acknowledgy kind).
The conversatiom between Agatha and Billie at the end was so well written. Shes clearly referring to herself when she says to not be ashamed of his power and he did what he needed to, to survive. But it's also a queer woman talking to a queer man and its very touching.
I actually like billy's side of the interrogation. It could have been shorter but I liked seeing how distorted Agatha was from reality. I thought the pen clicking and the back and forth about poking the bear gags were hilarious.
I don't mind the stealing bodies twist because the kid was already dead when the car crashed. Its not creepy like wonder woman 1984 where the guy was still alive when his body was stolen.
I would assume he's searching for Tommy because Wanda is presumed dead, no? I know I would try to find the family I had left if I thought my parents were gone. Especially a sibling, and even more especially a twin.
I would not like Billy and Tommy being played by joe. I think they can find a better way to introduce Tommy or explain how he found a body and why Wanda couldn't find him.
I am the biggest Wiccan & Hulking fan, I have hard copies of all the comics they appear in and I am quite happy with the changes the MCU made to his origin story.
I miss the time people didn't read comics and just enjoyed/didn't enjoy marvel. Nowadays everybody is a comic book expert (most of the time don't even read them, just. watch comics explained o something like that). Not too long ago, having a character like Wiccan in a show was unthinkable. Critic but realize how entlited you are. Great breakdown Grace!
Also Grace I’m not gonna be that guy but the Venn diagram of people being hyper passionate about the specificities about Wiccan and “DC fans” as you mentioned, on Twitter, are like, the same people. I love Wiccan. He’s my second favorite superhero of all time. I love this, I’m grateful to have gotten him at all and in such a great show and played by such a great actor. I’ll take this with two or three changes than hyper faithful garbage. No shade.
@@Erro_504_l im saying the big accounts on twitter arguing about authenticity are (for the most part) the same DC fans she’s referring to. not DC fans in general. it’s a specific subset of comic twitter with an audience that have done this to DC content that are doing this about Wiccan. i could name names but, i won’t.
How can people be mad about the changes from The Comics when The MCU has changed things way more significant than this so many times? They just simplified the Backstory from The Comics and In My Opinion, Made it better. This was Definitely My Favorite Episode So Far. This Show just keeps getting Better and Better!!! I Loved seeing Billy's backstory it was So Well Done and Joe Locke was Absolutely Phenomenal in This Episode. And Ralph Bohner's Cameo was INSANE!!! Evan Peters was Hilarious and it was Awesome to see Him again. This Show has been Fantastic and I Can't Wait to see What Happens Next!!!
This episode was a HUGE STEP UP from last week where I was starting to teeter on the edge of mediocrity. While there are some inherent (major actually..) changes from the source material, overall this episode did a GREAT job pulling me back into the madness and chaotic energy that this show radiates. Definitely push boundaries for a Marvel show, but I’m here for it!! Excited for episode 7 for the next trial with the group.
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Thank you SO MUCH, everyone, for your patience! As you can see, it takes 6 hours to make these breakdowns, as I start working on them as soon as the episode is over.
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Thank you for your hard work Grace!!🫶🏾
APPOINTMENT VIEWING! I search beyond the trailer as soon as I’m done with the episode. Appreciate your work, Grace! 🧙🏻🔮
ow i thought u just went to bed hehehe
@@BeyondTheTrailer we LOVE you grace!!!! Thank you so much for all your work.
who upset that he try to find his twin brother? Are you nuts? it's really touching and sweet. It just because he thought that their parents are dead. Find your brother, Billy. And then working together to find your parents
Children Crusade’s next
i agree it’s very sweet
Some Wanda fans are upset on the Twitters. It's ridiculous.
THIS. It is driving me insane. It actually made me emotional for how heartfelt it is. We rarely get a sibling relationship centered motivation, a fantastical one in fact. Him wanting to find his brother, someone he could actually relate to, is so touching.
id rather have wanda find him, it would give her more agency. billy finding his brother was easy to predict but it makes sense. i also enjoy the complexity of having to deal with survivor's guilt (both tommy and kaplan's soul lost).
Favorite line “Of course you’re Maximoff, or none of this will be NEARLY as dramatic.” Agatha clocked them so good😂
Literally my favorite line of the last episode! Haha
I fell out when she said that 😂😂😂
I’ve got to see the Agatha interact with grandpa Maximoff now 😭
It's also a fourth wall break. The show wouldn't be as interesting without the Scarlet witch connection.
After that I could only imagine the rest of the scene without the background music, and Billy acting tough. Yeah, just as cringy as you imagine it would be if it was a real life interaction😅
Billy found Tommy first in the comics and then they found Wanda so I dont know why people are acting surprised.
They hated joes casting from the start. We’re just waiting for a reason to go in. This was it.
You’ve gotta watch the video with the sound on lol she said that he never sought out his brother and that it just sorta happened, but that he always had an affinity to Wanda.
@@TrixieMatteI he did, but in the MCU Shes confirmed dead. and couldn't feel her, so he's looking for his brother who he can feel
@@albelvalentine8983no. I hate Joe’s casting but I LOVE that he’s looking for Tommy instead. From what I’ve seen most of the haters are just Wanda stans
@@Ne0Nightsdo you mind if I ask why you don't like Joe Lock as Wiccan? I'm a pretty big Wiccan fan and I think he fits the role pretty well in terms of looks, I was a little unsure of how he would play the character, but at this point in the series, I'm pretty happy with his acting. But I'm curious why people don't like him.
Patti Lupone could've prevented Multiverse of Madness. But chose not to. Lilia is living for the chaos. 🤣🤣😋
Omg
@@karlotty Multiverse of Maracas 🪇 Patti Lupone creating chaos across every reality, as she should! 🤣
My theory is that Lilia made a pact with Mephisto
Don’t forget that Patti Lupone is Yellow Diamond.
Lol. I’m dead
My God, Joe Locke knocked it out of the park. He is SO INCREDIBLY POWERFUL as an actor!
I think the origin change also comes from the pov that general audiences wouldn’t understand how someone can be Wanda’s son and yet also not. This way is more “streamlined”
You should try reading a comic. Origins are similar in both ways. Wanda “creates” children from nothing. They “die”. (Both shown in Wanda tv show)Their souls find bodies (in todays episode it was Billy) Pretty straight forward for general audience to understand
Exactly-the MCU almost always simplifies, and that's the right choice here.
Yeah, I thought this was close enough to the comics but also digestible to general audiences.
Oh this boy died then the soul of Billy revived in him, okay now that’s Wanda’s son in the body of the Kaplan’s son.
That's clearly their internal reasoning, but they aren't giving audiences enough credit. The only complicated part of his and Tommy's backstory are the multiple retcons where their souls come from, not that they got reincarnated in the past.
And the timeline worked better this way. A 16yo couldnt be Wanda's son from birth.
So he was part of the coven. Remember when Lilia drew a heart for the fourth witch (the boyfriend text mentions a black heart and they try to link it to Rio) It makes sense now, because of the sigil she couldn't write his name.
Omg that is sooo good, great catch! So he will be doing the Earth trial then, not Rio... which makes sense because of his corpse possession / revival. 🔥
@@sooshibunthere was sand in his trial with agatha on the trailer so that's a spot on theory
@@rudolphheuvelmans very well observed!!! So good!
Yeah his Boyf called him 🖤 and he was wearing 🖤 shaped earrings at the same time. He is the 🖤 not Rio.
It makes Sharon's death more tragic as they didn't need to bring her along as the 5th witch on the list was already there
That "The Ballad of Witches' Road" song by Lorna Wu (Alice's mother) really gave me goosebumps, given now we know it was a protection spell. How poetically beautiful that this song was the one to help Billy in figuring out his identity. ❤️🔮
He googled FAST!! 😂😂
any Wiccan fan who is mad right now either just wants to be mad or has never met a sibling in their life.
as someone who doesn't know the first thing about wiccan, for me it all looks like it's unfolding as it's supposed to. this show should've been called "wiccan all along" 😄
I just wish Joe Locke could act. That would make all this so much more palatable.
@@connorblake1390 but he can. you’ve clearly never watched Heartstopper. or Agatha 😂
@@connorblake1390He’s a great actor!
I loved loved LOVED this episode!! Joe Locke did a phenomenal job I’m so pleased with his performance. He only gets better! I’m excited to see where it goes
His performance in all the dramatic scenes was soooo flat and uninteresting, he looked like a deer in headlights, like he does not know how to emote. He really does not know how to show the subtle difference between mad, sad, scared, its all the same across the board. The comedy is on point tho.
@@Jose-sx4ql Why are you obsessively repeating this same (untrue) comment everywhere?
@@ashley.taylor174 because its my f k1ng opinion, also opinions can't be true or untrue they just are...so now what?
I think it's just people's wishful thinking of wanting Wanda back as soon as possible. But it absolutely makes sense he'd be looking for his literal TWIN brother.
Yeah. Billy looking for his brother makes a lot more sense to me.
Given how evil Wanda became, and how she died (not just physically, but thematically), I struggle to see how Marvel can even reintroduce her in a way that doesn't feel forced. Surely they can't make her a hero again.
Totally. It makes sense to try and find your alive brother and not dead parents. And it makes sense for this small show to be allowed to deal with “smaller” characters and not Wanda.
“Every witch with a beating heart can you now” - I feel that transcending the screen.
same. we can hear him now.
I think Lilia put the sigil on William because she saw that if Wanda found Billy while under the influence of the Darkhold, he wouldve been corrupted too or put into great danger
So she has encountered Chthon as she did in the comics?
Nailed it!
The interrogation scene from Billy’s point of view was HYSTERICAL 🤣 Kathryn Hahn & Joe Locke have incredible comedic chemistry! I wouldn’t be surprised if a lot of that was improvised.
Billy wanting to find Tommy actually makes me so emotional. To have a motivation around a sibling relationship is so rare. It also makes so much sense because he is the only one he could relate to and have a shared experience with. Also Agatha saying Wanda is not only dead but chose the townsfolk over them means he has differing emotions at the moment. Im sure they'll find her soon but it is some jucy angst.
It’s probably because I have my own tall, skinny, moody, gay, curly big dark haired teen son, but this episode made me so emotional. I LOVED it.
Your son is lucky to have you! Sounds like you love and accept him very much 🥺🥺
That's So Sweet!
Exaclty who the character was made to represent so everyone being mad about the casting I just dont understand..
This is the best response I’ve seen! 🥹
@@undisclosed_branding9714 people will be mad about anything given the chance. I think Joe’s doing a great job
It’s not a complete Agatha Wednesday without your take Grace. Truly feel like you’re one of my friends I can’t wait to hear from! ❤
Yo F**k all those trolls that wrote this show off before it released because this has been a BANGER show and this episode just invigorated my excitement about having freaking WICCAN in the MCU now and maybe Tommy by the end.
The writing, plot, dialogue, effects, and sets have been top notch.
The trailers didn’t do this show much justice. It’s a solid 8 or 9/10. I LOVE IT. I would love for multiple seasons
Harsh...but i must agree with your assessment 😂
Billy’s new origin is totally fine. Just as X-Men 97 did with its story arcs, it’s condensed and streamlined decades worth of convoluted plots and retcons into one cohesive narrative that communicates the comic lore in an elegant and sleek way.
Idk but killing off the comic version of the character is a horrible choice. The only thing that could save it is if Kaplan is just buried within him, not dead, and he unlocks both versions of himself by the end
The amount of hate Joe has gotten online for his appearance is disgusting. I can’t imagine that criteria for liking a character/casting/person is that you have to deem them personally attractive. Imagine living such a shallow life.
whattt were they thinking comic wiccan was hot so they want the actor to be hot 😂 I think joe is very cute but that’s also not that important he embodies the character so well and is so lovable 🥺 every character is amazing but I think joe is the heart of the show
Wiccan is also given multiple looks in this show, some are better than others on him (he looks the best in his crown imo). Who's to say what the future holds too? He could get the Marvel beefcake treatment if they so desired. I just don't think its Jac's taste, but they did this for Tom Hiddleston and Kumail. Joe is charismatic and fundamentally that is the most important, his looks imo fit the bill for his character too.
I'm confused. Do people think Joe Locke is too attractive or not attractive enough to be Wiccan? If the comics images I've seen are anything to go by, I think he fits the role physically well enough, and he's knocking it out of the park with the performance.
My friend, you'd be surprised at how low people can go when their "feelies" get disturbed, and people will people.
@@Siansonea Sadly there are people in the world are actually upset at the Joe Locke casting because they deem him insufficiency attractive to play a fictional teenager
I have to disagree, Grace!!! Billy and Tommy were extremely close in WandaVision. They had brotherly teasing and banter, but they were a very tight-knit duo during the show.
Wanda was also 100% a telepath during WandaVision and prior even; it’s been directly mentioned many times. It’s the whole reason why Billy *even has* the ability at all.
Just some inconsistencies I noticed. I love you so much Grace, thank you for the video!!
Not to mention they share a soul
Most siblings can tease and have some banter, that doesn’t make them close. That’s just interacting with people.
Right? Its driving me insane that people say it doesnt make sense for him to find tommy. Its rhe only person he can relate to and have a shared experience with and trauma together.
Tommy literally shouts at agtha, "Hands off, my brother"
@@awesdrew348 you misunderstood me. I was saying that they were MEAN to one another at times, perhaps insinuating that they’re not close.
But as you so well put, all siblings tease each other.
I think maybe all the posters and decoration in Billy Kaplan’s room was to show that Billy Kaplan was a fan of magic and witches, also why he had palm reading at his bat mitzvah. I think this coupled with the witches sigil (and maybe because of the same name) drew Billy Maximoff’s soul to Billy Kaplan
His bat mitzvah was also magic themed overall
@@SaintCharlie true!
Aw, I loved how polite he was to Agatha during the interrogation scene! It just showed a side to Billy I found so endearing.
I really liked this episode. The interaction between Billy and Agatha was fantastic! Evan Peters was brilliant and hilarious!
I love that Agatha, while villainous, was not at all mad at Billy for exploding. She was almost proud of him? And instantly started mentoring(while also antagonizing, cuz villain)
Yes! This is why I might hold out hope for liking Billy. Bc unlike some, I love and adore Joe Locke, i just don’t care for the Wiccan storyline when I feel it kind of ruined the show I was obsessed with in 1-4. I love their chemistry and I love the actor, but a Wiccan/ Billy storyline without her would not interest me in the slightest. This was the perfect amount bc it had very little moody road billy who i just don’t like.
I mean, did he totally miss her sobbing over his body and demanding Jen and the other witches do something when they were ready to leave it to “He’s young, he’s strong.”
Jen had not even bothered to think about water and moonlight until Agatha is begging her in tears. Then she sits by him all night like, who the F are you? She remained protective the whole time, even when she knew chances were he wasn’t hers, and Rio confirmed it.’
He devastated her last episode and that’s when her full walls came back up. She’d been acting like a softy until she realized once again she’s alone and no one cares about her.
@@SW-lx3lu im excited for their new dynamic now that everything is out in the open
I don't get at all the people that are upset about him looking for Tommy. It makes perfect sense for him to want to find his twin!! They are bonded the same way Wanda and Pietro are. It's really sweet. We will get Wanda back.. they are settling it up to happen in a movie with a big build-up. I'm more excited to get Speed back! Especially if they refuse to give us Quicksilver
I am a huge wiccan fan. I have every single comic that he has ever been in, all in chronilogical order in my comics bookcase. I absolutely loved what they did with Wiccan in the MCU.
I think they are introducing him perfectly, even down to showing that he is a gay character without making him being gay his whole personality.
I am so happy and proud! This so far is my favorite Disney plus show.
I think this handling of Billy's origin is perfect for the MCU. It's cohesive and far easier to understand than the comic origin.
I adore Joe Locke as Billy. I think he brings so much heart and warmth to the show.
I feel like marvel should give certain directors rights to characters. They should assign certain characters to these directors. like Jac schafer should always be in charge of Wanda, Agatha, Billy and the whole Maximoff/Harkness family. Clearly she knows how to handle these fragile and deep characters. Jac should be involved in every project where marvel is planning to use these characters.
I think Jac Schafer should be entrusted with entire mystical side of the MCU - including Doctor Strange (sorry Sam Raimi, but you f-ed up big time).
I agree! She doing God's work with small screen projects, I hope she gets a big screen MCU protect soon, cuz she'd do it justice! Ofcourse, in line with Wanda , Agatha, Billy and the rest.
Completely Agree. Give Her full control of The "Witch Corner" of The MCU.
Agree I feel like another director would ruin Agatha and the Billy.
Agreeeeed!!!❤
I loooove the change they made. It's so tragic 😭 but it makes sense for the cinematic universe. And my gosh does Joe capture Billy so beautifully 🥰 I just want to protect him.
And it totally makes sense that hes searching for Tommy! Im a long-term Scarlet Witch and Young Avengers superfan. Billy's story is hitting all the right beats for me.
I agree, exactly
I loved the Billy POV of the interrogation, thought it was hilarious 😄
Don't poke the bear!
😂❤❤
Straight, black male here, and after this episode I was fully invested in Billy and the Agatha show. Great episode.
I guess the only refuge about the "stealing bodies" bit is this:
Because of the sigil, Billy Maximoff was fully embracing he was Billy Kaplan for those 3 years because he couldnt remember his Maximoff life (thanks Lilia)
He knew something was wrong but... off screen he was embracing his Kaplan identity so "he became him"
I read the notes about sigils on his noticed board. He has notes for two types...
Billys side of the first episode was hilarious. I could have taken even more of that. Comedic timing was gold.
It made sense why Agatha could keep up in the first place
Joe Locke is amazing. I am really glad they cast him as Wiccan and he will be an amazing one. Also, I am really glad he thought about his brother first. I can understand people want Wanda back ASAP but it doesn't make sense for Billy to search for her first when he senses his brother is alive somewhere. You would definately search for your brother if that happens to you. I loved this episode, even the "controversial" stuff.
"My wife and her flying saucers"
"My husband and his indestructible head"
I'm crying on a wednesday night missing a mommy witch & a robo papa🥺
I unsubscribe from four YT channels, channels I’ve watched for four years, due to true misogynistic comments.
I’m loving this series and realized I don’t need to support bs.
Love me some grace.
Would you be ok with sharing who? I want to make sure I'm not subscribed also!
lol keep telling yourself that
Explain what you mean...
@tommietolivar6520 there's nothing to explain, they don't want to support misogynistic people.
@@nailinthefashion🤡
billy's new origin and him looking for his brother over wanda are both really sensible and sweet changes, people just desperately want to hate
I thought it made sense when the Kaplans heard WandaVision ep 1 on the radio because as Wanda started bringing down the hex the first time her undoing magic was causing everything in the town to shift through the different time decades at random, so it would make sense that outside the hex there would be broadcasted random moments/scenes/sound bytes of Wanda’s show also.
Joe Locke has me under a spell, especially in this episode ✨ also I have to say I loved how Agatha told him not to apologise for surviving and his power, that really hit my heart especially as it highlights the parallels of shame within the LGBTQ community and I think that was beautifully done 🫶🏼
very true 👍
Joe Locke said episode 7 was his favorite so I’m excited for that next week
The sheer amount of ugly comments I’ve seen online about Joe Locke and Wiccan, all because the show diverted to its B plot for just one episode, is astounding. And it hurts a lot more because a lot of what I’m seeing is coming from Lesbian or other LGBTQ watchers who are mad Agatha and Rio are not front and Center for every episode. They resort to homophobia and calling him a “twink” for what? For literally nothing than just to be rude as if Billy isn’t one of the most important lgbt characters of all time.
There has been a lot of femme phobia about him the role from before the show streamed. The character is not particularly effeminate. I just think it’s a loud minority of LGBT who only wants representation so long as it fits their narrow definition .
I haven’t seen any of those comments, thankfully, but it’s depressing to hear that. It sounds like a similar issue to the gays who were angry that Joe Locke’s Wiccan is more “feminine” than the Wiccan they’d envisioned when reading his comics. It’s the burden of representation, not only do you get hate from the psychotic rightwingers, but you’re also put under the magnifying glass from the minority you represent, so starved of representation they want you to represent them perfectly. But the truth is, one character can never represent all of us perfectly, because we’re ALL different!
Personally I think he’s doing an incredible job. I can’t even imagine how moving it would have been for me to watch this show back I was a confused curly-haired gay teen too. I know that online discourse today is often so hateful, but when I was a teen this kind of representation simply didn’t exist at all. Wiccan’s existence in the MCU feels meaningful and powerful to me, and I’m enjoying every moment we get to see Joe bring him to life on screen.
I love this show, but not just because it’s full of gays, but because it’s so bloody good, so well acted, and so well written too.
That's sad.... These are unhappy people trying to make others unhappy as well. Hope Wanda seeks revenge on their @$$es
Astounding how mostly homophobia is just disguised as 'fan opinion'. The lengths people will go to to just hate on a KID minding their own business is amazing.
@@moondevell Send Patti Lupone on their asses first, no need for Wanda! 🪇
Wasn’t an Agatha fan after WandaVision. Had little interest in this show when it was announced. Yet… totally impressed with the writing and performances so far. Hahn especially really is a powerhouse actress. Very invested in the story, excited for every new episode, and really hoping they stick the landing. Also hoping this is a strong signal that Feige and the MCU are getting their act together again.
When Billy said he found a guy on Reddit who could explain what happened in Westview I was chanting Ralph Bohner's name and sure enough he returned and it was absolutely hilarious
It would be dope if ralph bhoner dies and then tommy would take over his body🤯🤯🤯
If his lost soul couldn't find a body this would have been awesome like quicksilver 2.0 but I think he already has a body
@@zeynepezgitas3588 oaw yeah, he might come with a pre packaged due to some witches road bullshit
Hope this character and actor never appears again
Haha same!
A detail I really liked about the telepathy was Billy saying how he only can hear minds when something really intense is happening inside the person, like Vision “dying” outside Westview walls, William’s parents freaking out when he comes home and isn’t the same, etc. - will help avoid plot holes in the future of “Why didn’t he just read their mind?”
girl I've been refreshing your page for the last few hourss
Maybe I'm overthinking it, but this episode was so sad to me. With William passing away and being lost, but his parents not knowing their original son is gone. And how confused and scared Billy is in the midst of all this change. i dunno. I really felt the loss of William even though he was only there briefly.
I agree with you Grace about these comic book sticklers/purists regarding Wiccan. I don't know how ubiquitous the TOXIC portion of the fandom is (almost certainly less than the Star Wars fandom), but the general complainers out there are gonna gripe about Billy's origin and motivations. I think the MCU did a MASTERFUL take on Billy by simplifying the over-the-top and overly complex comic-book origin and reducing it down to its most essential essence. And it makes FAR MORE sense, in the context of the MCU, for Billy's primary motivation to be his TWIN brother. These complainers are not taking the CONTEXT into consideration. Due to the events in WandaVision, these boys already had a different backstory than in the comics and are starting from a completely different place than where their journey began in the comics. But even with the comic-purists complaints, their comments certainly fall short of the toxicity in Star Wars comments these days.
I love Billy and his actor. I can’t wait for this character to develop more in future projects alongside Wanda 👍🏽
I actually really liked seeing Billy's POV of his and Agatha's first meeting. I thought it was good, light humor seeing how Billy is just like a silly kid trying to get answers in a clumsy way but Agatha's POV made him out to be this highly effective, trained burglar.
I liked the re-visit to his interactions with Agatha. I wondered if Agatha was truly speaking to Rio.
I think yes, but not physically. Rio just projected herself into the illusion.
In Agatha’s view Rio was watching the interrogation from behind the mirror, that was in reality just a painting.
In episode 4, after Sharon is dead and they’re discussing needing a green witch, Billy says “people can’t be replaced” and Agatha looks at him and goes “Can’t they?” And they share a brief look where he looks nervous. I think she did in fact start piecing it together from the beginning even though part of her maybe hoped he was somebody else.
No one bats an eye when Monica gets an episode on Wandavision but when Billy gets an episode a portion of the Agatha/Rio shippers have a breakdown. It’s like they’ve never seen a tv show and are shocked more than one or two characters can be focused on. I love all 3 characters and their dynamics so it’s sad to see how some of the fandom is acting especially when they’re obviously gonna get an episode dedicated to their past soon.
The Agathario shippers would have a better time if they just stuck to TikTok clips of the show
Agatha/Rio barely have screen time as it is, so why are fans suddenly mad at this episode? The whole season is under delivering for them if they are just worried about screen time.
People were salty then, too lol. We just have even more vocal opinions online. In reality, they don’t really exist, they’re just a salty minority of the viewership
I ignored them .
@@TonyLehane right? Plus… Wiccan is so much more relevant to the future of Marvel than any other character…
It makes sense that Billy would call for Tommy first because they were sleeping in the same room, he was calling out for the nearest person to him. He didn’t know that he body snatched William
I loved seeing the interrogation from Billy’s view! I also think it was necessary for viewers who didn’t totally get the first episode was entirely through the twisted lens of Agatha’s imprisoned mind.
Billy is short for William. So they didn’t completely change his name per se. They just decided to differentiate the two “identities“.
Of course finding his TWIN Tommy is Billy’s (first) goal*, being a twin is a very strong connection.
Then if you add to that as far as he knows Wanda is dead and Vision is scrap.
*he can sense Tommy too.
I love that billy was the black heart on the list. He is a witch of their coven all along.
Why cant it be both agatha and billys show. Why does it have to be only one person. I think they are doing a good job telling both stories. And im verry happy the both the main characters are lgbt and extremely powerful with depth and emotions and treated like humans. Not the shallow stereotypes many shows have made lgbt characters out to be in the past.
I called it on Tommy last week! I called it!
Amazing episode 🔥🔥🔥
Amazing breakdown Grace 🔥🔥🔥
How could anyone not like Joe? He’s freaking adorable and a great actor. I also don’t mind the changes since they’ve been changing things all the way back to Wandavision. They left out Mephisto entirely and how the twins were created. The original story line can be quite confusing and I think they’re trying to make it a little more simple for the average viewer, and they also can’t jump forward 18 years to have Billy and Tommy bc completely reborn.
Love your blouse Grace. Perfectly matching Wiccan's magic color.
Joe Locke is an actor and he can play any part he wants
Agatha is not even the same version as from the comic far from it yet Billy's arc is being done in a very clever way people forget Agatha all along was something that became so popular in WANDAVISION that her show is even named after the song. Billy getting a one episode charactor develpoment backstory is only gonna help show Agatha's growth as a character which we saw she had actual tears in her eyes.
Once I tried to explain Billy and Tommy's comic bock origin story to a friend who is just casual viewer. She begged me to stop half way through. She thought the whole thing was just too weird and complicated, so I totally understand why MCU simplified it. I do feel the "Heaven Can Wait" trope is a bit cliche but since the scene is so well acted I will allow it.
Agatha changed the moment she got a little power back. Nothing like a spark to make a witch feel like a witch.
I disagree. Her accidentally killing Alice (who she somewhat cared about coz coven and who tried to save her) and Billy starting to blame her just really reminded Agatha who she “is”. People keep telling her she is bad so she becomes “bad”. It’s in KH’s acting in her scenes with Billy.
Remember in Doctor Strange 2, Wanda said she could sense them. She was sensing them across the universes, but she was probably sensing them here all along, and didn't even realize it because of the sigil!
HARD DISAGREE about Billy’s version of Agatha’s illusion. That was amazing and so funny! My roommate and I were both laughing so hard. And it makes it fun to go back and watch the first episode with this context in mind.
Thanks!
The posters also symbolize his future coven.
Cauldron - Jennifer is the potions witch.
Wizard of Oz - Lilia’s trial.
Alice in Wonderland - Alice.. duh.
Im ok with all the casting. Billy looking for Tommy just makes sense. Im a huge Wiccan fan.
12:15 disagree. i was entertained seeing Agatha trapped in Wanda’s spell with her water hose gun playing pretend detective. Very funny!
Yes! Kathryn Hahn is so amazing even in silliest scenes
Me too. Although I do think it could have been edited down a little.
11:34 The reason for the choice that William Kaplan would be into magic/fantasy movies, is so that Lilia could be at his bar mitzvah.
In the pamphlets at the -church- synagogue (thanks for the correction knighthawk) you can see “Welcome to my Magic Mitzvah” or something like that.
He was basically having a magic themed party, so they hired a fortune teller.
Good observations!
First of it's a synagogue and not a church. Second, you are right. Themes like magic and palm readers are fairly common at a Bar Mitzvah.
@@knighthawk3749 I’m sorry, synagogue, you’re completely right. My country is overwhelmingly catholic so that’s a lack of culture on my part.
I’ve made an edit to the comment (not the sneaky kind, the acknowledgy kind).
The brother were SUPER CLOSE. Wanda kept reminding them that they were brothers and TWINS and only had each other
The conversatiom between Agatha and Billie at the end was so well written. Shes clearly referring to herself when she says to not be ashamed of his power and he did what he needed to, to survive. But it's also a queer woman talking to a queer man and its very touching.
I don’t think everything is about being queer. But the rest i agree
They're literally both confirmed queer, not exactly a leap in logic
Yes yes yes yes. She cares about him. That’s why even when she was unsure if it was her son, she knew the possibilities were limited.
Thanks queen! Thank you for your hardwork. You are amazing.
I actually like billy's side of the interrogation. It could have been shorter but I liked seeing how distorted Agatha was from reality. I thought the pen clicking and the back and forth about poking the bear gags were hilarious.
I don't mind the stealing bodies twist because the kid was already dead when the car crashed. Its not creepy like wonder woman 1984 where the guy was still alive when his body was stolen.
Grace, seeing Billy’s side of Agatha was hilarious haha
I love this show and how they cleaned up Billy's story. The comics were pretty complex which would be hard to do in a TV show.
I would assume he's searching for Tommy because Wanda is presumed dead, no? I know I would try to find the family I had left if I thought my parents were gone. Especially a sibling, and even more especially a twin.
I would not like Billy and Tommy being played by joe. I think they can find a better way to introduce Tommy or explain how he found a body and why Wanda couldn't find him.
Why would Joe play both? A. They are fraternal twins. B. They will be in random other people's bodies
I am the biggest Wiccan & Hulking fan, I have hard copies of all the comics they appear in and I am quite happy with the changes the MCU made to his origin story.
Glad this one got out just now! it's not the full experience without Grace's take!
Also, daddy chill ~ gays and witches, united we stand!
The fact that he is not a underwear model is even better. Gives the character so much deph. He is supposed to be weird.
I miss the time people didn't read comics and just enjoyed/didn't enjoy marvel. Nowadays everybody is a comic book expert (most of the time don't even read them, just. watch comics explained o something like that). Not too long ago, having a character like Wiccan in a show was unthinkable. Critic but realize how entlited you are. Great breakdown Grace!
I loved seeing Billy's point of view to see Agatha in her spell. It was so good.
In the flash back he did a good Job at mimicking the previous actors mannerisms.
I absolutely ADORED this episode and Joe Lockes performance !! Love that he’s looking for Tommy and can’t wait to see what happens next
Also Grace I’m not gonna be that guy but the Venn diagram of people being hyper passionate about the specificities about Wiccan and “DC fans” as you mentioned, on Twitter, are like, the same people. I love Wiccan. He’s my second favorite superhero of all time. I love this, I’m grateful to have gotten him at all and in such a great show and played by such a great actor. I’ll take this with two or three changes than hyper faithful garbage. No shade.
What do DC fans have to do with this?
@@Erro_504_l im saying the big accounts on twitter arguing about authenticity are (for the most part) the same DC fans she’s referring to. not DC fans in general. it’s a specific subset of comic twitter with an audience that have done this to DC content that are doing this about Wiccan. i could name names but, i won’t.
i think they handled the changes & everything in this episode PERFECTLY. i've already rewatched it 4 times, im obsessed with ep 6
I have a feeling Eddie is not Teddy and he is only named that way to set up a joke in the future for Billy having a type with his boyfriend’s names.
Honestly I’m enjoying this series more than I expected. I’m happy with everything so far…
I like it. Its more simple and realistic for general audiences and enough truth for the fans. People just get upset too easily
How can people be mad about the changes from The Comics when The MCU has changed things way more significant than this so many times? They just simplified the Backstory from The Comics and In My Opinion, Made it better. This was Definitely My Favorite Episode So Far. This Show just keeps getting Better and Better!!! I Loved seeing Billy's backstory it was So Well Done and Joe Locke was Absolutely Phenomenal in This Episode. And Ralph Bohner's Cameo was INSANE!!! Evan Peters was Hilarious and it was Awesome to see Him again. This Show has been Fantastic and I Can't Wait to see What Happens Next!!!
LOVED this episode!!! I’m not that familiar with the comics, but the episode was great!!! 😃
I think the search for his brother makes 10000 times more sense tbh❤ and i love it❤
I stayed up for this!! Thank you Grace 🫶🏾
This episode was a HUGE STEP UP from last week where I was starting to teeter on the edge of mediocrity. While there are some inherent (major actually..) changes from the source material, overall this episode did a GREAT job pulling me back into the madness and chaotic energy that this show radiates. Definitely push boundaries for a Marvel show, but I’m here for it!! Excited for episode 7 for the next trial with the group.
We actually cooking here!! Got those Wandavision vibes