Honestly, what I got from this video was that you basically hate Black clover for mostly the same reasons I hate MHA🤣😂🤣 And Honestly, I too get how you feel, the only saving grace/Pass I'm willing to give Black clover and its flaws is the Fact that every @sspull moment in the show can be explained by Luscious Organizing everything (Quite literally Bending Time) to get the outcomes he wants🤷♂️
@@mahistvgo watch broku's stream on this video. Good to open yourself to new opinions and criticism. Personally I agree with your animation takes, but definitely not any of the plagiarism ones.
In my opinion one of the worst problems is the power scaling . I get that asta has an unconventional ability, but he should still be waaaaaay weaker than a captain. Asta basically being stronger than entire squad especially when he’s a newbie seems kinda cheap
Yes, and they justify it by him training his body 24/7. What about experience and such? Put a powerlifter twice the size of an average MMA fighter and it won't be even a challenge.
@@mockouchiha7579 That’s my point. It’s pointless giving the captains such a highly regarded title if asta can just walk in and be stronger than them in such a small amount of time. (Even if he does have a rlly powerful ability)
@@broskibrobro1278this argument makes no sense. This stuff happens in literally every manga and anime with an underdog Mc. Naruto goes from Kakashi level to 10 tails Madara level in less than a year. Luffy goes from being weaker than doflimingo after the time skip to yonko level in like 4 months. Ichigo goes from getting smacked by weakened Byakuya to beating him in like a week. The power scaling in black clover isn’t bad.
@@aisaback6221 It’s called an opinion. I never claimed it was a problem that didn’t affect other shows. Just because you’ve listed other examples of similar stuff doesn’t detract from my point.
25:38 I don’t think you know how much people hated this show as early as the first episode. Like there were countless hate videos and posts of black clover when it first aired and it only got praise when the anime got better despite the production team being understaffed and having a weekly release schedule instead of seasonal
I understand, and that's why I specifically said that this video is not about annoying MC, and all the other stuff in the beginning. I only saw it getting worse episode by episode in terms of writing.
To explain the animation of black clover, don't blame the animators, blame the horrible inconsistent staffing and insane last minute freelancing by the higher ups, at 27:33 this ep funnily enough was animated by some of the same animators that brought us jjk season 2, these animators are part of a team called Hakuyu go which is a collection of the most talented animators old and new, so pretty much what happened with this episode was the same issue with every other episode, the horrible schedule and last minute staffing, the studio kept getting freelancer after freelancer and it made the schedule suffer heavily, normally the animation would absolutely be stiff unimaginative, off model and limited due to these constraints but this team said "fuck you" to the animation industry and made kne of the most ambitious episodes ever despite being really bad and somewhat good at the same time with it havinf some great animation sequences but having really bad backgrounds and 3d effects, to basically end it, it isn't the fault of the animation team, it was indeed the fault of things that were out of their control.
Thanks for the insights! I don't blame the animators per say, but there is really no excise for the people in charge, since this studio has produced 1000+ episodes of Naruto and Bleach alone.
Yeah from what I understand the studio wanted most of their budget to go to another more well known sequel to a "really good" anime by the name of Boruto. Unfortunately when people realized how shit Boruto was the studio began to give BC a proper fucking budget and we ended up with the god tier fight of Dante vs Asta and Yami.
For the animation part studio Pierrot did NOT care about black clover. they didn’t even give it a producer to gather talent for the production the director tatsuya yoshihara had to gather talent which is NOT HIS JOB! Idk why they did this to black clover!😭 but the later black clover eps like 80+ look better overall
@@mahistvfair point, it's just that it's prob the author wants to make it like he finds out slowly that he can solve every problem, magical or physical, he just has to get smarter. which does happen, i do see that the pacing is ass tho.
@@mahistvlike at the end of the dungeon arc where he was defeated by the villain or when they kidnapped him at the end of the raid or when Gauche saved him and Yami ass in the cave or how Noelle saved him against Vetto or how he could end him thanks to Vanessa and Finral moving him.
4:45 During his panic while trapped in spacial magic Yami’s grimoire started glowing. The scene you showed Yami says he would have never learned this spell if the bulls didn’t get him enough time.
So again, all he had to do is to raise his blood pressure a bit and wait to get a new spell. Last time I checked, people hated a certain mark for this exact same reason.
@@mahistv The Mark doesn’t function the same way and it is not explained at the beginning of the series like the magic in Black Clover. It’s not about raising blood pressure.
@@mahistv it's kind of explicitly explained that the easiest way to learn spells in black clover is through some kind of intense stress or emotional response, they explain it a few episodes in when it happens with Noelle
I lile black clover and you don’t, which is okay. But your takes are completely unreasonable, especially the naruto part Naruto has NO INFLUENCO ON BC, if you did your research, you would know that it is influenced by bleach and berserk. If you read to the elf raid arc, you will find your character development, even for luck.
I respect that. BUT, I just showed you 3 separate cases of extremely suspicions similarities. No other shonen does something SO similar, in the same order and the same manner.
@@mahistvthe bridge is irrelevant in BC and in Naruto is the entire point of the arc. And well Final Fantasy 4 starts with the MC going to a village for a mission and the first boss is a Mist dragon with ice attacks and during his way to the village there is also bridges
Also you did the Sharingan comparison that even Japameses called bullshit. Sharingan has tomoes, Tengentsu has magatamas. Tengentsu is based in Tengenjutsu a type of divination based in the Yin Yang and that charactet has someone with the opposite personality that has also magatamas, in the chest in his case. That character is also Ruu, dragon and the other has a tiger motive 2 animals that also can appear with the Yin Yang.
@@mahistv"extremely suspicious similarities", no, you misappropriated pieces of information, in order to make it look like black clover is ripping Naruto off. There is nothing similar between Naruto's first ark, and black clover's first arc. You brought up a bridge? Not only is that wholly irrelevant, but it is likely just a part of the city and has nothing to do with the story whatsoever. That's what I mean by misappropriate, you are attempting to make black clover look bad by stretching and reaching. Garra and Mars are nothing alike, be so serious. And pretty much every other "similarity" you mentioned, is just tropes. Most of black clover's main cast are based on tropes. They further develop later in the series, that's like, the whole appeal of the black bulls.
@@loloman0 like fr bro completely forgor that both arcs had zero similarities apart from oh mist guy dies ice MAN and murder demon man who turns good at the end which btw never happens in bc during this arc
A first quest that starts as something simple then turns into a life or death situations, that happens in a village separated by a bridge, where a hero of the village was brutally killed by the villain in front of everyone, followed by a battle with an ice users who create a mist around the area, finished my a shot of the grave overlooking the area at a sunset. If you can give me another piece of writing that has this sequence (any fiction, not just anime) I'll apologize to you specifically in a separate video.
1 read the manga (would fix 90% of your issues), 2 you are zooming out to an incredible level to find similarities between BC and other series to the point of being disingenuous (also to compare BC to Naruto for an example of plagiarism is laughable at best given Naruto's own issues in that regards), 3 to reiterate, the anime suffered incredibly from filler amount, understaffing, and available budget. The majority of this series is all setup for a payoff 330 chapters in advanced. Not that prior to that isn't good but a lot of what's happening is purposeful from a certain character. The side characters being worfed for the villain of an arc is incredibly common, complaint was nonsense. Nobles (they were in the royal realm) are used to having everything done for them specifically by magic knights. The king is an incredible example of this given he has a 1 to 1 relationship with someone who does his entire job for them. His magic is literally useless. Most Nobles are cowards as well. Them not using magic to defend or run away perfectly encapsulates their incompetency and highlight exactly what's wrong with their society. The magic evolving during times of duress is legit explained lol Asta rarely wins alone until after the time skip with the exception of a couple in the Elf reincarnation. Even after the time skip he only has a few lone W's All said and done this was just a bandwagon response video. Read the manga.
1. How is it disingenuous when I point out exact similarities between two shows, 3 separate cases and its almost a carbon copy. Naruto itself didn't copy stuff that blatantly and I even explained how one can borrow ideas in the right way. 2. JJK also suffered from understaffing for a bit, but they still delivered great episodes. As I've said, BC is one of the most expensive animes on the planet and what they have produced is an unacceptable budget/quality ratio. 3. Nobles are a fraction of Capitals population. Even if it was 10%, what about the other 90%? Why NOBODY is using any magic, not to escape, not to fight, not to do anything? 4. Asta has the HIGHEST win-rate out of all the shonen characters which is about 93%. It's absurd. 5. How is me reading the manga going to change my opinion about the core concepts of the show?
1.cant speak for this as I don't know 2. Jjk is seasonal bc is not so they have WAY less time to work on each episode 3. The capital is OVER 90%nobles..... not the other way around.... besides that it's explained that most commoners need to rely on magic tools to use magic in their day to day as support and that peasants on average are effectively magic less... 4. While it's true his win rate is high in most cases it's only with help that was VITAL DURING the fight.... not to see his allies be defeated one after the other to rile him up and eventually solo..... 5.i would say that because of their short time of production for each episode along with the inherent weaknesses of animation (the skipping of things like world building and exposition in order for the episodes to flow better) caused you to miss several things Also something of myself: No the 5 leaf clover isn't actually visible so people can't tell.... besides that in a world of magic having the ability to neutralise that VERY concept would leave most people outright terrified.... imagine someone being born in our world who can remove our ability to breathe.... Also there is a LOT of TRAINING in bc it's CONSTANTLY gets referenced but rarely shown true... while I agree that a suddenly new ability can be off-putting they make sense in context: In order: -noelle: awakening the desire to protect -gauche: considering supporting someone for the first time instead of only fighting alone -noelle: finally acquiring the confidence she needs to fight alongside her teammates instead of only looking after the innocent -noelle: realising that she in order to protect those she cares about must be willing to bring harm to others or outright kill them even if she might put people in danger.... I could honestly keep going but I'm stopping here for a obvious reason... Also yes fuegoleon was taken out which socks.... but not only does it put the Villains as an actual threat it also shows a hidden side of nozel (noelle's oldest brother) by making him not only feel shame the capital was attacked but also swearing to get personal revenge... this is later elaborated on that nozel and fuegoleon have been rivals for a long time in the battle with the 3rd eye.....
@@mahistv 1. hxh nuff said lol 2. JJK probably still had an animation director, something BC lacked for over 150 episodes. it also explains the cost given they had to outsource so much. 3. Commoners aren't even allowed into the Noble realm except for the star festival and work so that's nonsense. 4. You're just spouting lie after lie, Asta's W/L ratio is waaaay lower than you're stating. An incredibly quick google search proves you wrong XD 5. Because you're not getting the Author's original vision which is the problem with 90% of your opinion. The character tropes aren't hyped on, the art is phenomenal, no filler to make said art worse, etc, etc, etc At this point tho I'm nearly convinced you're just a salty Naruto stan given the comparisons and the defence Read the manga
@@mahistv Bc had multiple directors heavily understaffed episodes and barley any time, jjk was also understaffed and had a little amount of time but the difference is they had too make 21 well animated episodes compared too 50+ anime episodes thats why the difference in animation quality was apparent jjk had huge issues when it came to scheduling but bc was a living nightmare in comparison 💀
11:06 what do you mean “regular guards”? the magic knights are the guards. The series doesn’t even mention a secondary system like that so that complaint makes no sense.
People who couldn't become knight but still want to protect their land. Example, police in MHA. You can't tell me there is only a few hundred "magic knights" in the whole country, who is dealing with all the civil affairs? the courts? the prison? That's not enough, you need a thousand people to support the capital alone.
@@mahistvRoyals and nobles run the courts. Magic Knights put people in prison. MHA built the hero system into current society so the police already existed. Black Clover magic always existed. The forsaken realm is the forsaken realm for a reason.
there is actually some evidence of the kingdom having a sort of "police force" besides the magic knights, but that system seems to only really exist in the capitol and the mages employed there are weak in comparison to the magic knights, they don't seem to exist in places other than there though most likely because of the rampant corruption
@@onesmart229 Thats just not enough, you'd need a hell lot of people in all those areas + prety sure there were secondary wizards defending the capital
He likes Demon Slayer? I just watched a video of his from 8 months ago titled why demon slayer sucks. Mahistv is a huge JJK fan for sure, bro thinks JJK is different from every other shonen lol.
While it's nice to see another comprehensive opinion on a show that I love that doesn't align with mine. But I believe that at some points you weren't paying attention to the story and giving unfair reasons to dislike bc. This was mainly due to your bc vs Naruto bit which actually weakens your stance. I know you've probably seen this a lot but Asta has never had a true solo win, sure the animation makes him look flashy and cool but if the others were not there he would be true fodder no matter how powerful anti magic is. That vetto fight was ment to show the family aspect of the black bulls and how their loyalty and team work actually puts them a cut above the rest of the magic knight squads. Just because Naruto popularised the shounen formula doesn't mean bc is a "naruto clone", and i say this because asta has a better relationship with his rival yuno without the need to kill each other on site like other shows do. Just because asta got a new fancy sword does not invalidate the immense training and hardwork he puts in which is seen as early as the first episode. Even after this we're always given scenes of him training throughout the anime. Black Clover is far from perfect as there are things that I would narratively change myself. But if the animators were given the proper time to cook the reception would be more positive than cheap shots at its individually. As you've only watched 50 episodes most of the problems that you have for black clover are improved upon later on but if you clearly have no interest now I wouldn't force you to watch it as you have dropped it. I'm glad you at least gave it a chance
I agree with "rare solo wins", but that is part of my complaint. Overall, he barely loses, because his side ends up winning somehow, yes he might be knocked out, but then there is Yuno, Yami, Noelle who will win it for him. There are no stakes. And the only reason I compared it to Naruto so much, is because there way too many similarities in the beginning. As for improving later, I will read the manga when it comes out and see if my opinion changes.
Ok, this video was very garbage. You keep saying asta is op and does everything by himself, but that is flat out wrong. Yes, anti magic is an anomaly that has the answer to pretty much most magic related circumstances(no shit), but asta pretty much never does it alone he always had other people helping him. Everyone pretty much works together to help him get the final shot. Also, asta has never won all of his fights he literally lost to npcs in the capital invasion arc, and if yami hadn't shown up vetto would've blown all of them up. And as for u hating on the power system its ur opinion so all the power to u but you fail to realize that they unlock new spells through character development and the spell they unlock is based on the situation theyre in rn. Eg noelle's first was a defensive spell because she wanted to protect people who were begging to be saved. Gauche unlocks the oiwer to mqke doubles of his allies after he stops being self centered and actually starts to care for other people. And yami literally couldnt espace from the barrier until he learned a new spell when he saw his found family about to be killed and since youve not read the manga this famoly means they world to him. Mages can also learn new spells from training btw which is shown in later arcs. And fyi asta and yuno are the 2 most hardworking individuals in the show just because it isnt shown on screen doesnt mean it's not there. Asta wouldnt even have been able to pick up his swords if he didn't train his body and even when he could he couldnt use them until he got trained by someone. And most of thr powerups we see from yuno is also the fruits of his training whoch is mostly his control of mana. As for you stating thats the side characters feel like they didnt do anything how is that a bad thing they tried valiantly but sometimes the opponent is too strong for them that's just how it is sometimes and also those fights are more for developing/showing their relationships which become relavent later on (i hate the mentality that everything beeds to pay off instantly) and black clover is a masterat forshadowing stiff hundreds of chapters beforehand. and when you said asta does everything i totally remember him fighting licht and vetto one on one. And the constant showing of the characters tropes is an anime exclusive thing to pad out the time. The manga is much faster and has gorgeous art. I can go on and on but you get my point. Black clover is a much deeper show than people give it credit for. There are some dumb moments im not denying that, but stop pretending like it's a turn off ur brain kind of show. The whole point about the production value of this show was outright insulting to the people who poured their blood and sweats on this show. It's obvious you dont know shit about how anime production actually works. You can give 1 billion dollar budget to a studio, but if they dont get enough time and proper scheduling its gonna look shit. And the animators absolutely love this show, which is why some ep look even as good as they do. Ep 119 whoch was pretty much the finake of the first saga of bc was completed literallycminutes before the ep aired, and if you've seen that episode, it actually looked good. Oh, and the author never said Naruto is his inspiration. Its dragon ball bleach berserk and yuyu hakusho. And the "plagarism" you told are literally the most vanilla stuff every shounen under the sun does.
I don't think it's that serious... If he insulted you that much you could've just not finished the video and also yeah it's just wizard Naruto with a more annoying mc
Asta has the highest win-rate of all shonen MC. 90%+ and it's just boring. I also said that the side characters are wtitten well and that the plot is interesting, so not sure why you complain about that. As for Naruto, dude, I don't know how much more clear I need to be, because there NO other anime that borrows that much from Naruto.
@mahistv idk where you're getting your data from but his winrate is 63.64% 28 wins and 16 losses which is one of the lowest winrates actually. And before ypu say but thats probably in the manga heres asta's loses in the first 6 arcs. He lost to npcs, licht, ladros,the witch queen and would've lost to heath,vetto,rades,fana and Mars if he didn't have people helping him. He has not won a single fight himself so plz enlightenment me how thats him having the highest winrate. I was talking about how you said the side characters were useless, and I explained just why that's not the case. And like I said before all of the stuff black clover uses are troupes every shounen does. Every one of those "copies" that you claim bc took from naruto have been done in other anime before naruto. Eg demon inside the mc yuyu hakusho did that. Sasuke's entire character is made from kurapika and hiei 2 characters by togashi. A giant monster appearing thats from dragon ball. Asta/naruto being hot-headed but determined kid litetally every shounen ever. Now Am I going to say naruto is a carbon copy of hxh yuyu hakusho and db ofcourse not because I'm not stupid and realize realize inspirations exist and naruto's and bc's authors put their own spins on that.
THANK YOU. I was going to write a reply to this video just to clarify the situation about the production and how much respect Yoshihara and his team deserve for fighting through one of the most mistreated productions in anime history.
It is perfectly fine to dislike a show for any reason, I love bc because the protagonist has a disadvantage from the get go and has to earn every victory, plus a little plot, but every show has a tiny bit of plot armor
@@mahistvIn my opinion, Black Clover has the most plot armor of any manga ive read. Tho i just think about it as "its a shonen" and move on with my day. But the fact you dont really need to train and can just randomly pull a move out your arse (Like you mentioned Yami in the underwater temple), that i just dont like at all.
@@vizard7548 gotta disagree with you on yami, his team was being beaten, and we know magic can respond to your will, so his grimoire making a new spell to answer him that also fits his skill set is good, but I could potentially be mistaken on that
@@mahistv then what do you mean by “we’ve seen all that in Naruto and Bleach”? Licht’s story is not like Kurama’s or Yhwach’s the two characters you chose to show.
12:06 one of the magic knight test was how well you ride a broom and you see multiple ordinary people struggle. The story has answered much of this section with the magic knight exam.
Don't make a judgement about the whole group of people based on a minority. Just because a few people struggle, doesn't mean that everyone do. And again, you are missing my point. I haven't seen ANYBODY from regular people using magic in extraordinary situation, which contradicts the show's exposition - everyone is able to use magic from childhood, meaning they will use it on par with their arms, legs and so on.
@@mahistv ordinary people use magic to do the basics. It wasn’t “regular people doing extraordinary things”. It’s you chop wood with magic, you boil water with magic, you dry clothes with magic, you farm with magic and if you don’t have magic the world really isn’t built for you. The show says “in this world magic is everything” not “everyone is extraordinary”. Just because you can boil water or chop wood doesn’t mean you fly on a broom.
Black clover is actually one of the few anime where the side character and female characters actually defeats a major villain on like some other anime which if the mc doesn't show up then the battle aint ending
@@mahistvmagna, yuno, meroleona ,rill, Charlotte ,luck Noelle , some of the team work battles in black clover ,these ppl helped to defeat the bad guy without asta help , asta barely has a single wins , his wins mostly comes from assists , pls read the manga
1:24 Luck the Smiling battle maniac. Is he smiling? yes. Is he a battle maniac? yes. Where's the lie? You made your own expectations the show didn't do that. And was defeated by the guy who fought Yami once. 2:26 It's a weekly Shonen people forget how characters are over time. when you binge it doesn't hold up but when you watch it weekly it's fine. 4:35 Yeah Yami surpassed his limits and gained a new spell. that's part of the magic system. It's baked in. The show mixed power ups with character growth and training, it's quite smart. 4:44 Yami no diffing Vetto did ruin their victory, but it re established Yami as a top fighter, It could've been handled better. 5:16 Luck and Magna were the two mentors for the past seasons having them beaten shows the stakes. Vetto is a Captain level threat. you can't rely on past arcs to say how strong someone is, you need re establish it for the audience. since he was a minor character. 6:13 That's fair you can hate the power system, that's fine. 6:25 This statement is wrong. Even 1 page dude does get a power up. 7:42 The world of Black Clover is just like that. the dungeon wasn't even that dangerous compared to other places. They're not ganna baby the characters, they're knights. 8:13 This is a terrible analogy because you do need to train. It takes training plus character growth to gain a new spell. 8:47 Black Clover has build up, when characters grow as characters they gain a spell. That's locked in, since the first arc. It's rule within the universe. if you see a character growing they're ganna gain a new spell. Would you prefer them to off screen the ability then show it in the arc? Because the do, do that with Yuno, all the time. 9:49 Yeah, that's the point, the MC is moving the plot. The nation has been fixed in their corrupt ways but now that Asta's there he's making actual change. The Black bulls were lazy until Asta's never give up mentality motivated them to do more. The Asta effect. 9:57 because they're under estimating him and they're classist, how did you miss that? When they do investigate him after defeating Zagred, they banish him. Because they're corrupt. They don't care about Asta, They didn't even care about Yuno who had a 4 leaf grimoire. Because their classism was that deep. People who discriminate as hard as the Nobles, are stupid. look at our world. Did anyone care about how smart the poor kid was before he got straight A's? No! they only care once it affects them. That's the point, the series is showing how blind the corruption has made these people. 11:01 Did you miss the propaganda? Magic is everything. it's the lie we've been told since day one. the peasants do nothing because they think they're nothing. People who are looked down upon don't try to over throw their oppressors. Look at slavery. If all the slaves ganged up they could over throw their captors. But they were constantly belittled and made to think they can't. Peasants don't think they can fight back, they rely on the strong magic knights because that's what they've been told. When the Black bulls came second place at the star festival people were shocked. they thought the Black bulls were the worst and will always be like that. They believed the status quo would never change. so they don't try to change it. 12:07 I FULLY AGREE. The anime is drawn terribly, it needs a remaster. They should have stopped making Boruto filler and given the budget to Black Clover to hire an animation director. 17:25 Black Clover did copy Bleach, berserk, Dragonball, YuYu hakusho, maybe One Piece, but never Naruto or fairy tail that's just plain wrong, did you not research this? why did you use fairy tail and Naruto, Bleach is right there. Your points is right, but your info is wrong. 20:49 WTF? You know about the problems the anime shows, I thought it flew over your head, but nah you just didn't think about it? Bruh. the answers were right in front of you. 23:34 Your expectations weren't met in that moment, but in the next arc Asta does learn and instead of killing Fana he saves her with the help of mars another guy he wanted to save and got saved. 24:19 I agree Fridging Fuegoleon was a mistake. 25:01 Agreed. They do it too often. They gotta stop. Good video, read the manga if you hate the animation, I wish it was better, it's a good story. The manga is hype, look for answers to your questions because they exist, in the show.
Thank you, I'll read the manga when it fully comes out and see if It changes my opinion. 1. Actually fair, however, we were specifically told that he likes winning too, so I was under the impression that he is supposed to be capable. 2. Dude, if you forget this kind of trivia about a character in a week, you should see a doctor. No way anyone is forgetting that Noelle is royalty after her introduction. 3. I dislike that system, it's too cheesy. 4. No, it established that Ass-pulls save the day and the victory is not earned, it's given by the plot. 5. We already know the stakes as I said, this was redundant and diminished their characters for me. 6. Ties into point 3, glad you understand. 7. Hmmm, then what's the point of making a 1 page such a big deal? 8. They are still newbies, I understand that Julius wanted to see them shine, but that's too risky, and a potential source of conflict with another nation. 9. I didn't say you don't need training. I said you need to discover something first before you can use it. You could have been doing heart surgeries all your life, but if you go and operate on the brain, it would be quite different and I doubt you'd be allowed to. Again, ties into point 3. 10. I'd prefer them developing an ability before using it. Ex. Gon with Jajanken, Naruto with Rasengan, even Ichigo with his Hollow Mask. Sometimes a power up mid battle is fine, but not all the time. 11. I'd prefer other characters doing something. Ex. Hunter X Hunter, Parasyte: the Maxim, Overlord. In these cases the world exists and things happen outside main character, making the MC a cog (an important cog), but not an engine. 12. What do you mean underestimate him? For all intents and purposes, Asta is disabled by their world standards - he is missing a core part of his anatomy. So when this magically crippled person becomes a Knight and gets invited by the Wizzard King himself, ain't no way people won't look into it. It's an equivalent of a paraplegic competing in regular Olympics and getting some results. The whole community will get involved. 13. I see your analogy with slavery and that's a good point. However, people in Royal Capital should have a bit more pride than a "slave" and more skill too. Also, this still doesn't explain why they don't try to use magic even for fleeing. 14. I wish there can be a remaster, but I don't think that's happening :( 15. Hmmm. My research was watching both Naruto and Black Clover. I brought up 3 examples of extreme resemblance and no other shonen has that many similarities with one another. Take the Licht VS Kyubi attack. They are similar, but different enough not to count is as plain copy paste. Mars though... I'm sorry, his character arc and abilities are just Gaara with minor changes. I don't know how can I be more clear. Also, when I said Fairy Tail, I meant that we've seen similar plot-lines there, not that Black Clover copied it. 16. I did and I don't see what answers I didn't get. 17. Too bad, I'll read it in the manga at some point. 18. 100%, dude deserved better. 19. To be honest, that's a problem of many classic shonens
@@mahistv 2. I can remember stuff like that, but trust me there are tons of people who forget things after a week. People straight up forget who characters are. It's very much necessary. 4. That's a fair stance to have. I personally consider asspulls to be something that comes out of no where with no explanation. In Black Clover we're given an explanation so I don't consider it an asspull. 7. Propaganda. People discriminate. That's the point. People's differences don't matter in Black Clover. Hard work is all you need that's why Asta is so powerful. People think they need a big grimoire full of pages or a ton of mana. But thats just nobleist propaganda. 8. Magic is a very wild thing. If you are strong enough and imagine what you want you gain a spell. But in order to fully picture the spell you'd need mental clarity, we see time and time again. Rill is the best example. He needs to imagine the picture in order to use his paint magic. Or take Noelle. She gained sea dragons roar, a final flash reference. It was hinted at for a while. Her first spell was sea dragons nest, he out of control water from had those crazy spirals. Eventually she gained Sea Dragons Roar. Very much hinted at not an asspull. Even Yami's dimension slash was hinted at. He had Black Slash, Black hole and was trapped in spacial magic, and he dimension slash. Not the best hinted. I'll agree. All other spells are better hinted at. Even Yami's next spells. 11. That's a fine stance to have. But stuff does happen outisde the MC. But it is inspired by the MC. Yuno is working as hard as Asta and making a big splash. Asta inspires people and they go out and do change. Similar to Luffy who inspires people to be better and make changes in the world. 12. Yeah that's the point it's dumb. And there's tons of real world examples like that. People who are disabled are often looked down upon and people don't think to look into their achievements. And the clover kingdom is hella stuck up. When they do investigate Asta they wanna kill him but instead he's banished. So they do investigate him eventually. Once they can't ignore him anymore. 13. Alot of people don't have attack or transportation magic, and rely on magic knights. Fight or flight, they chose flight. And without a broom nearby they ran. When Asta becomes Wizard king he better start mandatory combat training for the citizens. They are very dumb. 15. Its called confirmational bias. You watched Naruto and Black Clover and looked for similarities. Even tho Black Clover isn't inspired by Naruto at all. I could look at Mary had s little lamb and say its a biblical reference because Jesus was known as the lamb of God. And his mom was named Mary. But thats not what the story is based on. No matter how similar it is, if I were to say it was based on the bible that would be lying. It'd be spreading misinformation which you are doing because you didn't do enough research. Its really easy to look up what Yuki Tabata stated to be his inspiration for Black Clover. And it's not Naruto. He's never even stated to have even read Naruto. And until he does comparing the two and claiming they're the same is just misinformation. Because they did did steal, heavily from Berserk, Bleach, YuYu Hakusho and DragonBall. Its very obvious when comparing them. And it's factual to say that any similarities are definitely copied, because we know he's read them. You really should finish Black Clover, the manga definitely. It's extremely hype.
@@mahistv 7. The big deal is that he never got better and never tried to, otherwise he would have got more pages: that's the real reson why he was banished by the magic knights. He is considered worthless for that reason.
They made Luck out to be this badass, crazed maniac. The lesson he learned about relying on friends is fine and dandy but they told us he a one man army without ever showing it. He god kid diffed in the first fight we ever see him
I have some disagreements: 1. plagiarism: Saying that BC is a copy of Naruto because he saved a person that believes in him, gtfo 2. Saying an arc is a copy because there is a bridge, ice and mist? Gtfo 3. As you said yourself getting ideas and changing them is fine. Fairy tail guild is now somehow the standard for fantasy guilds? Come on that idea is ancient 4. Yes the author is clearly grabbing characters from a bunch of other shows and for the secondaries he barely does anything with them. But that’s totally fine, a story can never be 100% unique nowadays; everything has already been written if you nitpick enough. 5. On the lack of training, in a lot of magic based stories asspulls happen because magic in difference to pseudo magic (Nen, chakra) is really chaotic. If you dislike what happens that’s fine, it’s a fair point but magic shows usually do stuff like this of getting power ups in the middle of a fight. And if you think Naruto made resurrection I am sorry I disagree that’s a super ancient trope. Just like how Sasuke backstory can be reduced to a typical samurai revenge story, the details and progression are what determines if it’s plagiarism or not. In other words I understand your take but disagree mainly on plagiarism and power system parts. I definitely think BC has a too many characters problem (although I think this could have been solved by reducing the number of squads/magic groups). BC is something that is not for everyone and that’s fine. In a sense BC demands that you are familiar with shonen tropes but at the same time that you don’t pick it apart too much, since I would say it’s more shallow than JJK, but if you are willing to go with you get some good fighting choreography and the characters are simple and easy to root for. Well that’s it for me.
The thing is normal hunting pigs mission went to a death and life situation + bridge + ice user and grave scene Too many similar things at the same time at least if they changed some of it then it wouldn't matter but it looks like a copy paste except for Noelle who's actually useful
If we talking about the guy who was was saved by Mimosa... Man, I've read the whole thing, and there was not 1, but 2 whole death fake outs for that dude specifically. First, he was supposed to die because of some curse/ability and then he was burned to a crisp.
Okay so before I get into it, I will say that I am absolutely a black clover fan boy. I love Asta, most of the characters and the general story. I will say I agree with some of your takes. The animation is not good for most of the show, the characters constantly repeating their tropes gets annoying and sometimes it would be nice to see regular people fight back. However, wow the rest of your takes are literally just…wrong. 1) the side characters do contribute. It’s all a team effort. Just because the main character deals the final blow does not mean everyone else was useless. I’m guessing you want everyone to deal the final blow at the same time then 2) no the magic system is not plot armor or conveniences. The powerups are related to characters development in their mind set, similar to JJK which you praise. You just don’t like how it’s done so you say it’s bad. Idk abt that sir 3) no it’s not plagiarism. If it was so many anime would be taken down for plagiarism. Their tropes and they’re not exclusive to Naruto. It’s inspired by Naruto but it’s not a copy. Yuno is a great example because he is a more positive spin on the “edgy rival trope”. Just because characters are similar does not mean they are copies. Honestly I just think you hate the show and it’s just not your style. Some of your points are great and valid but the others are flat out wrong. Sorry. Again I am totally bias and feel free to disagree.
1. Yes, when some characters like Luck are presented as "badass", I need to see that, not hear. 2. I know how it's done. When the plot demands it, the character levels up, because they were in a situation where "stress" made them stronger. If JJK was running on the same fumes, Itadory would have been using Sukunas Domain Expansion during the Shibuya. 3. Give me another example of the first episode that has everything I mentioned. I've watched hundreds of shows and specifically went to check the first episode of top 20 shonens. Only Naruto and BC were this similar.
I'm going to preface this by saying I mean no hate a lot of these points are... misinformed or disingenuous, I do agree with some of them but for others it kind of just feels like twisting things in the most unfavorable way possible just to tack another thing on, especially prevalent with the plagiarism complaint, even if it did copy you seem to give JJK a lot more benefit of the doubt for what, in your own description, are very similar things and extremely comparable on the superficial level you compared it to naruto at. It's ok to not like the series but its not really in the scope to just say baseless accusations just because you don't like it, it goes outside the realm of an "opinion" or an "objective flaw" and turns into just slander I'd like to stress again that I mean no hate, but damn it was hard to sit through hearing things that could just be easily refuted with one sentence or a reference to stuff in the actual show and I'm not even a big fan of the show or anything.
Don't worry, I don't take it as hate. To address the BC vs JJK implementing others' ideas - Black Clover took ideas from Naruto and blatanly copied them, without changing much nor improving on them. Mars is a carbon copy Gaara with some cosmetic changes. Jujutsu Kaisen on the other hand, yes, also copied stuff, but their "Edo Tensei" doesn't kill the "vessel", it can only be done one at a time, it has limited up time, the vessel can be anyone including a caster, the person they resurrected is visually identical and they are not immortal. What's the difference between Mars and Gaara? The element they are wielding and some later plot development.
When villains atack a society were litteraly everyone(Asta does not count) can do pew pew magic...is like trying to shoot someone in a city were even a baby can afford a magnum .45. Dude...no matter how powerful you are...when everyone can have a canon on the tip of their fingers youll better think twice before going crazy. For some stupid reason Black Clover forgets about that topic when villains shows up.
My thoughts exactly. Sure, these people will be less prepared than a villain attacking them. But good luck going against THOUSANDS angry citizens whose houses you just burned. They have nothing to lose anymore
Guns are equal magic is not that is a terrible comparison, civilians especially peasants have low magic if they had high magic compacity they would be magic knights it even explains this in the show and that people in the peasant realm have very low magic and that is why they are peasants
11:52 if the enemy can give magic knights trouble then the civilians are better off getting out the way. The series gave you the example of Nate’s grandpa in the beginning. This is not a reasonable complaint.
Read some historical literature, and see what happens when an enemy knight with his little squad comes to raid a big village. People won't just surrender their livelihood to a few schmucks. To an army, sure, but not to small group.
@@DanielHernandez-gx4khIf they were gonna die regardless, they might as well die fighting, wich would be the most predictable behaviour. In the most desperate situations, people try everything to survive, in black clover they just sit there. Mahis also made the very fair point that some of them could've AT LEAST tried to use their magic to get away somehow
@@DanielHernandez-gx4kh Yes, and that's a MAGICAL village. Except: it's not a village, but the capital and the magic in people is more powerful the closer to the capital
11:00 This is one problem I have with Death Eaters in Harry Potter. Every adult in the Wizarding World is armed with a Glock and trained to use it. The attack on the Quidditch World Cup should have ended with all of the Death Eaters dead.
Exactly. Maybe at first people would have been caught by surprise, but that's about it. 90% of attendees studies Defense Against Dark Arts and should be able to defend themselves, especially when there are hundreds, if not thousands of them.
Animation errors from a weekly show and then compared to a seasonal or even longer show. Yea Demon Slayer animation better look great with the time between seasons. Not saying your point isnt valid, but you have to put that aspect into perspective instead of just saying it looks like crap. As you said, BC has an insane amount of setup that presents a really good outlook for the series but your take that the other tropey things or previous complaints screw it up is just infuriating when you realize most shonen have the same problem. BC isnt played up to take itself seriously, in any way. Its a shonen, doing nothing more than trying to be a shonen. Its one thing to not like something because it has no substance, but to immediately have a hypocritcal point afterwards by comparing it to other shows that makes the exact same mistake is nonsense. Yami blows off Astas moment of deep thinking and chance for emotional growth for a gag. Vigilante Dekus moment of VERY deep reconciliation is basically blown off by a *Bubble Bath* Show has bad bits. Understandable, but trying to reinforce that by pointing out common problems doesnt really sell out for your point unless the point is targetting the genre as a whole instead of a singular show
Animation errors is one thing, but BC is doing it WAY to often, on top of changin it's stile mid conversation and generally poor quality. Your point of MHA and BC is not right, in my opinion. Deku already went though all this before they even gotten into dorms, that's practically the reason why he came back is because he accepted help from others. While Asta only started to wonder as he was looking at dead Vetto, which was immediately interrupted by Yami.
Im surprised you didn't touch on how offensively awful the villains are. Up to the elves there is still an attempt to give them some backstory and motivation, but once devils start appearing, what little there was to them is completely dropped and the quality breaks through the lowest of rock bottoms. I have never seen characters that flat in any other manga. Their whole personality is "I'm evil. Because I am evil." and the good guys fight them because they're evil. It's not even the impactful kind of pure unjustified evil and cruelty of characters like the High Evolutionary or Mahito, it's just "Haha I'm a bad guy."
What do you mean vague? A first quest that starts as something simple then turns into a life or death situations, that happens in a village separated by a bridge, where a hero of the village was brutally killed by the villain in front of everyone, followed by a battle with an ice users who create a mist around the area, finished my a shot of the grave overlooking the area at a sunset. Please give me an example where anything other than Naruto and BC have this subplot.
@@mahistv there’s no bridge involved in the black clover arc, the first mission becoming life or death unexpectedly is fairly common, Heath is nothing like Zabuza and Haku, and even though I am pretty sure in Black Clover it was a sunrise an arc ending with a grave is not uncommon for more sentimental series.
@@mahistvagain, those are extremely vague similarities, the first arc of black clover was introduce magna character and back story and the potential threat of villian in the future while naruto the first arc was to establish the cruelty of the Shinobi world , heath is completely different character than zabueza and haku and they had different motives , heath was trying to retrieve a magical stone from the village bc they weren't providing what he needed, he threatened to kill everyone, zabueza and haku were just carrying out random assassination , the could lead to fall of a country , the mist in bc was magic they were using to mask their activities in the village it wasn't even casted by heath it was casted by a random mage , the mist in naruto was just background design choice or u can add zabueza uses it to silently kill , the similarity btw haku and heath is that they use ice , there move sets aren't even similar the the only similarity is that they are just ice , and whats wrong with ending on a sunset
Honestly o love this guy he can both show the good and bad things about shows we like unlike so many people that will just hate the show or love it so it’s different impressive
Comprehensive - complete; including all or nearly all elements or aspects of something. I've said EVERTHING I had to say about BC and thus it's a comprehensive break down of why I dislike it.
let me explain what this shit is about -First point , Luck is a fighting maniac but he got beated in his first fight , first reason to hate black clover (luck literally beats the shit out of main villians god tier army all by himself in manga ) -bro says in vetto's battle , everyone tries to kill vetto but fails and yami takes the glory , what a mature reason to hate a show ( if thats the case than in t.o.p everyone tries to knock out jiren but fails and frieza pushes him in the end and despit goku's effort no 17 becomes mvp , by this logic we should also hate dragon ball ) -black clover have no power ups , they only gets spells at a specific time , they dont do any training , wow 💀 ( this guy surely never read the manga , it was stated that some spells appear naturally and some are created by the user , one of the example is zora who creates different spells all by himself , even magna creates a spell called "soul chain death match" , yuno creates "neverland" and more ) -bro says asta anti magic is usefull for magical stuff but why is it used everytime 💀💀💀💀💀 ( bro really lost his brain , obviously instead of using magical force to stop some stuff they would prefer easier solution which is anti magic ) - nobody notice asta five leaf grimiore ( asta himself didnt notice who is the owner of grimiore , how can someone else ) -asta didnt get praised for what he did ( all the captains and julius wanted asta to get more reward after elf arc even nozel who hates him , he just didnt get bcz he was on the way to prove that he isnt the devil servent , and in manga he really gets the rank equal to vice captain ) -why people dont use magic to protect themselves ? ( bro did you ever questioned on mha creators that why the citizens in mha verse dont protect themselves and use their quirks , obviously if i am a regular person i will not interfere in the job which is supposed to be done by military and police , plus most of the people dont have much amount of mana or combat spells to fight , you brat ) -bro really said that black clover is copying other bcz the character design is similar , some characters like mars are similar to someone else , i mean bro really think that their aint any similar personalities and character designs , there are many naruto panels that are similar to dragon ball , do mean we should hate naruto , just bcz someone made a similar stuff this means they are copying? what a kid the only thing which makes sense in this video is about animation , while the other stuff is just some random bullshit bro didnt even read the whole black clover and decided to make a video by just watching elf arc.
- When? A few hundred chapters in? My problem is that he was set up as a strong character and then shown to take L after L. - 100% mature, because he invalidated the entire suspense that was built during the whole arc. - I didn't say that. Reason 1 - I'm frustrated with the "power-upping" because it happens when it's convenient, implying that power ups exist. Reason 2 - all spells received in the first 50 episodes were during combat. What else Am I supposed to think. Reason 3 - I even showed Noelle and Asta training... My point is that there is little relation between training and power-ups, because they just discover spells at the time of need. Or you mean to tell me Yuno got Sylph because he was training hard? No, he got it by chance. - Again, you misunderstood my point. Asta SOLVES every problem, that's my issue, not the anti-magic. - Yes, that's stupid. And saying Asta himself didn't notice is not an excuse, because he is not the sharpers tool in the shed. - What? They do that all the time. Gentle's whole story is about him trying to help while being a civilian, once heroes went down, people started arming themselves and use their quirks, because they knew Allmight is not coming. Still, that doesn't excuse BC. - It's not similar design, it's the EXACT same plot and even some dialogue.
@@mahistv your video proves that you havent read the manga not even watched the whole anime , you just watched elf arc and came up with illogical points -you are saying that luck was shown as strong character but got beated your whole point is invalid because he wasn't shown to be strong he was just a fighting maniac fighting maniac doesnt mean the character is strong in demon slayer inosuke was shown to be a fighting maniac but got bullied in literally the next fight -just because yami ended the whole arc's suspense means that bc is trash ? -you have literally no idea about black clover power system some spells are created by nature while the rest are created by the user you just watched 50 eps and made conclusions in dark triad arc we literally see almost every one creating spells -asta solving every problem means black clover is trash ? in dragon ball goku solves every problem in jjk before dying gojo was shown to be solving most of the matters tanjiro solves every matter in ds and its because he is the mc -fools think that bc has similar plot because it has rivarly in dragon ball vegeta and goku are rival to become the strongest deku and bakugo are rival for becomeing no 1 hero and more people think that only naruto plot has rivalry and dreams to achieve something shoto todoroki has literally same character desgin and back story like zuko from avatar the last airbender gojo is kakashi giyu has similar hairs like sasuke bakugo has similar personality like vegeta literally every anime has similarities your points mean that you hate literally every anime
You shouldn't have to watch a whole series to have an opinion on it, 50 episodes is very generous and if the episodes after happen to be excellent or better quality, it doesn't matter because nobody wants to watch 50 episodes of poor writing to get to the "better parts" of a series. And as for the criticism that he didn't read the manga, you shouldn't have to read the written version of a story to understand certain elements because reading the same story twice isn't for everyone. Anime tropes are very common because they provide easy to understand character dynamics and story elements. The problem with them is that it makes stories predictable and so it's up to the writers to make the tropes unique or catered to the story they're trying to tell. Sure Goku and Vegeta is similar to Deku and Bakugo and Naruto and Suskue in that they are rivals headed towards the same goal, but their relationships and dynamics are different which makes each one interesting
@@leatfingies4290 i already debunked that his points are stupid black clover has better writing than most of the new gens + some of his points really reqiures to watch most of the series
Mahis, I'm 50/50 on your complaints. Some were good while others just didn't click with me. 1 big complaint that I don't agree with is how the studio adapted BC. Sure, it's pretty bad early on, but that's because they basically had no staff working on it so they had to outsource. Mind you, this is before Studio Pierrot started believing in Seasonal Anime's like Bleach TYBW. So instead of stopping the anime early on, they kept adapting it because of the money they got and the terrible japan producers telling them to keep it up. Taking that into mind, the anime isn't as bad when you think about it. Airing weekly while most animes air seasonal and the animation is even worse. Iceblade sorcerer for example. I think you should watch the Black Clover movie and give a review of it. Ignore the anime for now and just watch the movie. I'm sure you won't be disappointed.
What do you mean started believing in seasonal anime? They did Naruto for decades like that! Also, it's totally fine to disagree, very rarely two opinions completely align. As for the movie, I don't understand if it's canon or not, but I will read the manga when it fully comes out and see if my opinion changes.
@@mahistv 1. Naruto suffers from a bunch of filler and animation, so that's not a good excuse tbf. 2. The movie is canon. And the manga has been surpassed the anime years ago. Many of chapters to read available right now.
Ok, I might not have been clear. Even when Asta himself is losing, others save the day, making the the whole fight a W(as seen with Vetto or Mars). BUT. He barely loses completely (I can only think of losing to Licht as a single decisive loss... maybe Vetto but he came back immediately and won). Take any other shonen character - Luffy, Ichigo, Naruto and so on. They regularly lose BADLY, so we are talking 70%ish percent win rate against 90+% of Asta.
@@mahistv see your problem is you want Asta to be like every other Shonen MC. None of your stances make sense. Your just bias. And ignorant. Rock Lee aint save Naruto fighting Kimmimaro? Kakashi aint save Naruto after fighting sasuke ? Kakashi aint save Naruto fighting Deidara when he went beserk? Minato aint save naruto when fighting pain? So see how your logic makes no sense. And if you read or watched the series. Asta gets WRECKED So many times. ACTUAL LOSES. Nobody saves him. But you wouldnt know because you watched this series trying to make it like Naruto , Bleach & One Piece. I can’t respect your opinion because there’s no validity. Everything you say is nonsense.
@@mahistv To be fair: only Goku can afford losing completely, in worlds without Dragon Balls that can bring the MCs back to life, they need some way to prevent death. =)
So... a first quest that starts as something simple then turns into a life or death situations, that happens in a village separated by a bridge, where a hero of the village was brutally killed by the villain in front of everyone, followed by a battle with an ice users who create a mist around the area, finished my a shot of the grave overlooking the area at a sunset, is a trope? Please enlighten me what other piece of fiction (not even anime) had this trope except for Naruto and Black Clover.
@@mahistvI mean, yeah, they are similar, but that shouldn't really be to BC's detriment since there's more to it when looked at deeper that differentiate it. Plus, from an overall series standpoint, Naruto does this exact thing with DBZ. A upbeat main character dressed mainly in orange who was orphaned and has immense potential and multiple forms who goes on to marry the secondary female character of the series who is the daughter of a powerful figure and had feelings for the mc that they didn't pick up on at first; they then went on to have two kids with the oldest one being intended by the writers to become the new MC while also taking after their fathers. On the opposite side, they each have a dark-haired, less upbeat rival who didn't like the MC at first and eventually warms up them and survived a massacre, later taking a dark path in order to achieve their personal goals; they then go on to marry the main female character whose intelligence is one of their main traits and have just one kid who takes up mainly after their father (I'm not counting Bulla since I'm only talking about DBZ, not GT or Super). I bet if you look close enough, you'll find similarities like these in almost any work of the same genre.
To be fair to BC's power system, it makes sense. The spells the characters learn depend solely on the user itself, hence why even relatives tend to wield different types of magic of the same element. Not to mention, the stary straight up tells you that there are 3 ways of growing. Either be born a noble, bettering your outlook on things (aka character development) and training. Does BC have issues, yes. BC has A LOT of issues, from the convenient situations, to the lack of character development, to the inconsistency of power levels work, to the inconsistent power creep, to the badly handled power cliffing.
I just don't like this system. To me it feels way to convenient and prevents me from seeing the power develop like with Naruto, Gon, Ichigo's mask and so on.
@@mahistv it didn't feel that way to me since it was set up that the user's personality and outlook also influenced the type of spells they'd receive. Dimension Slash did feel way too convenient, thought. That spell felt like it was just meant to get Yami out of his bind. The power system's not as good as Naruto' Bleach's, JJKs, but it makes sence. Ps: I forgot to mention the fake out d3@ths. I think you mentioned stopping after episode 50. The fights get better, but the fake out d3@ths were too much even later on.
Ok love the series but I have to agree with a lot of your points except the vetto fight. What did vetto represent despair him taking down every other character who fought him and increasing in power ,however asta points out that not one person who fought him gave up or gave into despair so although he beat them he never broke them no matter how many times he takes them down. When asta beat him he tried blowing everyone up but even then the hope asta inspired by being a magicless boy kept them init even before yami showed up. Another thing I like about black clover how it’s less power of friendship and more power of team work cause asta alone even with his anti-magic wouldn’t stand a chance.him teaming up with both Vanessa and finral to take him down was one of the best fights in the series for this reason. Ps I think you should make a video about how you would change black clover to be better as you stated how it had the possibility of being good 😊.
I see your point. I just wish Luck and Magna did something like Noelle, where they have visibly affected Vetto in some way. As for how to improve, stick to what it had set up and stop trying to reinvent a wheel. Also, this secation might be a bit disingenuous because I've only seen 50 episodes, so I can't confidently say what I'd change, simply because I haven't seen everything.
@@mahistv that’s valid,so does that mean your planning on making a squeal to this video if you choose to watch another 50 episode and if this video does well.
1. I love this analysis, however it seems like starting the show you already didn’t have love for it (Which would definitely obscure your view and shift your bias to being more critical of it) 2. Most issues about asta never losing and citizens having magic etc. don’t apply to the manga… at all. you’re being disingenuous by stating black clover sucks but outright refusing to finish the elf arc (which has been adapted for about 6 years now). 3. The plagiarism claims, I can understand but mostly in the manga. For the anime ones you’re taking some of the most basic tropes and overanalyzing them and comparing it to bigger shows 4. Animation claims, but comparing it to jjk just because they were both understaffed is heavily flawed. Despite the working conditions, mappa is still mappa and therefore their animation would definitely be leagues above black clover. A lot of the “asspulls” you’re calling are also things that happen in Naruto or Bleach but you don’t point out, now you state this because they were slightly hinted but they were also hinted in Black Clover (e.x yuno’s OP 4 leaf grimoire) but you seem to overlook it. Similar to fairy tail, black clover is a victim of being overhated and memed on, however you called out tons of good points. However, you may be a bit over analyzing and i feel like not even finishing black clover while disdaining it is something you shouldn’t do
1. You might be on to something, but I watch every show like that. Even RWBY that I absolutely love, I critique harshly when appropriate. 2. This is new information to me, if anime wasn't adapted well, I'm open to changing my opinion (that's why I'll read the manga when it fully comes out) 3. I'm sorry but I've never seen a character so close to Gaara. If it was rearranged a bit, fine. But if you look at the two shows back to back, it's almost identical. Same with their first quest and the 1st episode. 4. I've also compared it to Naruto and Bleach, which are done by the same studio. Black Clover is one of the most expensive amines on the planet and what they show me is absolutely unacceptable, even for a mid-range budget. 5. I agree that they happen, and my point is - 90% of power ups are asspulls in BC, where in Naruto's case, the only asspull I can think of is the very first episode, 2nd Kurama spirit from Minato, all the Hogoromo bullshit. For the most part, he had to learn Rasengan, Rasen-Shuriken, Senjutsu, Kurama control, which are his normal abilities that he constantly uses. Same thing with Ichigo. He had to learn Shikai, Bankai, even controlling the mask. Sure the mask itself is an asspull, but at least he wasn't even able to use it for the first several times. I agree, I do overanalyze, but that's what I enjoy doing. As for voicing my thoughts while not finishing, this is the reason I couldn't finish and most of my point have nothing to do with what comes next.
That's some ass-backwards mentorship where the "mentor" tells you not to think too hard... Compare that to Kakashi and Sasuke's dialogue after his roof squabble.
@@mahistvso first you're talking about how annoyed you are that it's even remotely like any other anime, and now you're wishing it was like another anime? Interesting.
Alr spoilers here but i can debunk the entire complaints you made and make it make sense alr so pretty much in ch 331 of the manga it is revealed that the wizard king is the 4th zolgratis sibling and the devil host to the supreme devil of time, and all the ass pull and everything being so damn convient comes to play, he has rewinded time thousands of times over in order to ensure things go his way, asta getting 5 leaf grimoir? getting the 2nd sword? The elves ressurection? the defeat of lucifero? all can be explained as he needs everything in place for himself to be released and recreate the world in his way, he purposefully calculated everything all to his plan so that he could swoop in take what he needed and then he can do whatever, why doesnt he kill asta? how else would lucifero be defeated, whty would he ;et the wizard kind "die" it was the only option as he cant kill patry but he cant lose or let him get away other wise the gate would never open, all of everything in the series was all to his plan, its his calculated mastermind play that makes all of the conveniences and asspulls make sense he made sure they would happen. only plot hole is why did the mf who brought him luciferos heart not just kill the wounded asta and yuno? its so that lucious whould be killed by them to take his power and gain it for himself, call bullshi all you want, but this is some s tier writing and id put this in top 5 anime off all time jk te first 60 episodes exist and thats the only reason why it isnt, stick with it and you will get the best story ever
Ok, clear problem but you're actually comparing Black Cloveer's and JJK's art, thats a huge problem, 1st Black Clover is older and JJK only just recently got that animation, season 1 animation was still worse than fight scenes in Black Clover. Plus think about it from a length perspective. Black Clover is 170 episodes long, do you think they would have jjk level animation for all of those, 2 years before JJK season 2 happened. Plus don't even start with the movie, you could say Black Clover's movie had better animation than JJK's but you would defend it with, oh but its older. Also the plagiarism part is a massive stretch. You mentioned there being a bridge, like thats important. The most you could call them out for is inspiration which then you could arrest JJK for Bleach cause its closer to being a carbon copy than Black Clover. If you looked at Kisuke and Gojo you would realize their personalities are 1 to 1 when Gojo isnt fighting, then it goes to Kenpachi. Don't even get me started on Aizen and Kenjaku. Also if your gonna bring up certain parts of the show being similar to other pieces of media, thats complete bs. You called out the black market saying they plagiarised it from Harry Potter. You're comparing an anime to a book with movies. Is your next point that Asta is a human so he plagiarised that from real life, Yuno has the wind spirit who is copying Tinker Bell. You could disect anything from any piece of media and call it out fkr being similar to something, even with the concept is simple and straightforward. What else is the Black Market gonna look like, its a secret alleyway in a town. In other words, im coping cause Season 5 isnt out yet and your points were highkey mid and im realizing this isnt criticism, but just hating. W video tho, looks better than JJK season 1, cause Black Clover is in it.
I can accept the time difference argument, but BC has nothing on JJK S1. Just the fact the BC allows itself frequent animation errors and style changes between frames puts it into below average category. JJK is not flawless, but its consistently good and sometimes great. BC is consistently inconsistent and sometimes alright. Also, weekly or no weekly $140K an episode is way to expensive for such animation flops. Also, it's not clear if movie is canon, so not sure if we should take it into account
@mahistv the movie being canon has nothing to do with the animation, and it's a movie, 99% of anime movies aren't canon. I've seen scenes in BC that trump season 1 of BC, not the entire show cause its 170 episodes long, most movies have better animation cause they have bigger budgets due to only being an hour or 2. Bleach is a good example of inconsistent animation, Soul Society looked great considering its the first major arc then it goes back to being bad cause the big arc is over. Still 24 episodes compared to 50 in a season is a wild difference. Plus Black Clover is more than likely getting a season 5 this or next year cause of the movie's success, so let's see if it's still bad, tho you had some good points like Gaara, Magna's glasses, and gifs, but I usually consider how good animation is when it's at its best. I would compare the movie to season 2 but it's a bit unfair cause it's a movie, and I can't fully love the season 2 animation knowing the conditions of the workers, any animators would do a great job if they were worked to death.
@@mahistvthey decided to make it weekly last moment and they decided to put part of the team into Boruto. Also Yoshihara wanted the best to BC and did a lotof work to recruit animators. Search his interview for chapter 63
You do realize that black clover is a weekly production right? Plus MHA, JJK, Naruto, and Bleach had a lot of the same problems with animation inconsistently like BC. So you cannot be faulting BC when most of its pears have similar issues
Also BC has inspiration from Bleach and Berserk. You can’t call a show “plagiarized” when it’s just typical Shounen tropes. What you listed out in Naruto happened in Hunter x Hunter, MHA is new generation Naruto, BC and JJK have massive story elements from Bleach, and etc.
Naruto, especially Bleach, never had animation flops like that. Sure, there were a few fights in Naruto with "interesting" animation that looks similar to what we see here at times, but never to this extent. Also, please let me know what other shonen has a trope of "An underdog MC fails the exam everyone passes, gets involved with a villain which causes them to discover a power and save a person important to them, who says they've always believed in the MC".
@@mahistvYou will be incredibly surprised how much animation drop off those two had, especially during their later years. They are close to how Black Clover had with its production, as all 3 come from the same studio. Black Clover’s beginning is very similar to how My Hero Academia began its story however MHA was able to subvert that trope in a small way to make it unique. Black Clover, like Demon Slayer are relish in using Big 3 tropes in both character writing and story beats. Idk why you have such a problem with it, as all stories with heroes in existence can be traced by to the Mesopotamian story of Gilgamesh. No modern story is completely original and that’s totally okay! It’s how the writer(s) execute those stories that really matters. This goes for many Shounen manga currently ongoing and in the past, newer manga like MHA, JJK, DS, BC, etc. were inspired by the Big 3 as those stories were inspired by Dragon Ball before them, and Dragon Ball by Astro Boy before it, I can go on but hopefully you get my point. This is why I don’t like the “plagiarism” part of your video, authors are human, and they like to incorporate nods and take character beats and have a nod to their favorite works they read/watched growing up and put them together in their own stories. Again there is no original idea about what an author can put into their works, as my point earlier, someone has already written the idea before them, it’s how they are written and executed within those stories that ultimately matters.
I respect your opinion, and I loved the video. I do recommend you read the manga because it might provide more and let you enjoy the characters and the story more than the anime (cuz I too hate this anime, as they cut a lot of shit out and had very terrible animation up until it's ending, which is around the beginning of the second to last arcs in the manga), but if you feel the same as you did with the anime, that's fine too. Your opinion is wholly your own, and I can't make you love what I love.
I hate these types of anime because they let enemies go in hopes that they can change but than said enemies don't. If you are gonna show idealistic and naive protagonist than let his naive ideal come true.
Clearly he didn't get balck clover magic system anti magic cant be used by those with magic. So why would they examine a guy with no magic and a grimorie which they can't use. Julius have an interest in his anti magic and examined his sword
Asta also made anti magic good, the swords are too heavy and not easy to wield. Wasn't much being outputted because of asta lack of understanding to use it.
with all due respect but: -after watching only 50 episodes, you go too far in your assessment where most of these events are important later - a copy of "Naruto", this is the worst argument and used too often. Most of these things can be taken from other series, myths, fairy tales (which is true). And the truth is that it is easiest to blame you because Naruto is popular. Same as with Dragon Ball where in Big3 you see copies or inspirations (if anyone sees it) -The animation gets better with the number of episodes, but that's because the budget for the first episodes was smaller due to the not so popular manga -As for spells in the anime, it is left unsaid, but spells are not something you can just invent. A grimoire is like a part of you that responds to emotions. A self-created spell can be practiced, but to come up with your own you need external help, e.g. runes (like Magna and Zora)
- Dude, if 50 episodes is not a fair enough try, I don't know what is. - I challenge you to find me any piece of fiction that has these exact events. I've seen all major shonens, a bunch of smaller ones and none have the exact same scenery, order and characters as BC and Naruto. - Again, I showed ep 67 as an example and it looked like shit. - That's my point, you can't invent or create spells, you can only discover what's predetermined and you discover it whenever the plot decides that you need that spell, not when you have trained/gained enough experience to do so.
@@mahistv 1.anime is bad adaptacion thats why 2.one piece 3.still low budget its become more popular during elf arc 4.still they have to train to master them
OK I'm going to Update this through my watch now When it comes to the power system it's based off of character development or emotional growth there are things That allow a person to Develop new spells Either, Having a lot of magic power Using Different variety of spells essentially training and The other essentially If you're in a Certain situation You'll get a type of adrenaline boost that will allow you to develop a spell, Also having 1 page means a lot more than just you can't Unlock more spells It Means you're not trying to grow You're not trying to get stronger It means you have a block emotional or physical.
I just don't like this system. Because it's a very fine line between OK and a completely ass-pull system. Black Clover falls under the latter, yes you can make an argument that when you overcome a struggle, you unlock more of your potential, but the fact that you unlocked it, doesn't meant that you can immediately use it. You still need to learn.
@@mahistv the System is based off of emotional and physical growth, Instances like noelle she already has the potential to Learn most of her spells It's simply the circumstances are Mostly awakened through emotional Circumstances or you Simply train Like she did at the beach You're not guaranteed to get results but you'll at least learn something that's what most Magic knights do
@@mahistvit’s not an ass pull as it works off of character development like they said for instance when gauche had learnt a reverse of a spell he already had where now instead of cloning himself he can clone others which he learnt how to do through what? You guessed it character development, in this instance being him learning to work with someone else. As for Noelle and could already use powerful water magic and had learnt how to maintain it which is how they got down to the seabed temple so her learning to use the water dragon makes sense
11:24 the peasant kids were boiling water. You want people with no combat experience to just start fighting when they have magic knights to fight for them.
Of course. Whether you like something or not is purely subjective (opinion-based). I just think there are a few objective (factual) things wrong with this show like blatant plagiarism and bad animation
This is the third video I'm watching by you and it's the one that made me subscribe. 3 for 3 great audio and visuals plus you're RIGHT all the time. Keep doing you and you'll be bigger than the Cosmos Unim in Undead Unluck
I agree with everything you said. I even had a lot of these thoughts while watching the show. However I finished it and was relatively entertained thru the whole show so idk.. They tricked me somehow.
Ill be fair, ive read all the way caught up on manga so I have a lot more to pull from. It gets better and fixes most of the aforementioned issues with time but the manga is definitely better as it is more consistent artistically and the pacing feels a bit better as well
Nah dude, the plagiarism section wasn’t it. All you did was give surface level nitpicks and ignore the context that give each of the scenes from the respective anime their own identity. During your comparison between the Saussy Village Arc and the Land of Waves Arc, you mentioned how they both contain a bridge, something that’s so insignificant in BC in comparison to Naruto since it was only included to give an idea of the setting and nothing more, to the point where I don’t know why you even mentioned it, you might as well have said that both arcs happen during the daytime. As for your Gaara and Mars comparison, the emotionless character is an archetype, and that’s not even considering they’re emotionless for different reasons. Being similar due to the archetype should in no way be a reason to devalue Mars because it can be done with other characters, in fact, I’ll give an example: Goku and Naruto. - Upbeat, cheerful character - Wears Orange - Used to live alone, but not anymore - Is oblivious to romantic feelings - Their love interests are daughters of powerful figures - Both of their iconic moves are blue and were taught to them by perverted masters - Both have animalistic transformations they struggle to control at first - Both have access to multiple forms - They’re both somewhat merciful to their enemies - Both fight to be the strongest for the sake of their goals - Both go on to have two kids - They both have a rival who’s perceived as better than them Does this mean that Naruto is bad too?
The difference what you just said about Goku/Naruto and my Mars/Gaara comparison is that you literally described superficial features, while I'm talking about that AND their plot. These two have identical, carbon copy story, which goes way beyond archetypes and tropes.
@@mahistvDude, how are you going to say I mention superficial things when two of the comparisons you made between Mars and Gaara are that they both have some attacks they can use while standing still and can pilot larger attacks? How is that less superficial than the fact that Goku and Naruto wear orange? And while we're on the topic of superficiality, during your comparison of the Land of Waves Arc and the Saussy Village Arc, you literally went out of your way to mention how they both have a bridge while fully knowing since you watched the episode that the bridge in BC was completely irrelevant. I smell hypocrisy. Plus, did you even read the full list of comparisons? Goku/Naruto cheerfulness and mercy are NOT superficial features, they're core parts of their characters. How are you going to say Naruto's mercifulness is superficial, then go on to talk about Gaara, a character whose change of heart began because of Naruto's mercy and empathy? It's an odd move at best and a disingenuous one at worst.
i agree with the wasted world. so many anime does that, have a wonderful world, and just keep focusing in crap, undead unluck is the opposite, it uses its world so well. But i will admit there is good moments in the show, when fin brother tried to kill him and the trio get in the way knowing the cost, mereoleona is an amazing and fun character, henry the castle keeper, and so many micro moments, the problem is the rest of the filling.
My biggest problem is the wasted potential of Zagred (the first devil opponent). They spent an entire saga building him up only to defeat him then move on to more devils. Why not make him responsible for teaching the devil magic to people and start the next saga from there, with him being the actual final villain instead of Lucius? That would've carried more weight and made more sense. But no, let's just beat this guy and move on to stronger villains for absolutely no fucking reason.
When it comes to anime in general i can never call anime a copy of each other every thing has a inspiration so i don't think think black clover is bad i personally like it
Personally, i feel you. I started Black Clover and kinda sat through the first episodes because it had an interesting premise, though i played with the idea of stopping because the characters were mostly reduced to a single trait or two maybe and the action really wasn't too convincing to me. Then the elves (and most importantly, ma boi Rhya) got expanded on and i needed to know the answers. Though i did feel disappointed that nobody ever really tried talking to them or understand them in some way. They had such an amazing story but didn't get any recognition (as also seen in that burial scene). In a story that's about discrimination and prejudice, such a thing would have been necessary, and instead they were treated like your generic evil villain team. I stayed for their arc, and when it ended i realized that the only reason i kept watching was because i liked the elves but none of the other characters and ultimately stopped somewhere around epi 160. I actually did like the elves arc so much that i wanted to take inspiration from it and expand on it, further enhancing the themes of discrimination and false judgement with terrible consequences, and to write such a story i wanted to start BC again but i couldn't. Knowing the truth about the elves it only made me see the flaws of this show way better and feel too bad for what could have been that i stopped at like epi 10, not to mention that i still didn't like anyone besides Rhya (and Patolli maybe).
I think its odd that you hate black clover yet have Meliodas on your banner. Aka from the series known and widely slandered for its constant pedophilia. Just saying. Also its no wonder half the comments on this video are cooking you right now because you really didn't even try at all with this video
I've never heard that one about Meliodas, and I do agree that he's not behaving with Elizabeth properly when she doesn't remember him, I don't recall a single instance of him doing that to her until she grows up.
Bro Black Clover isn't the only anime that has arc structures as well as character and story concepts that other anime have, read or watch Saint Seiya and Yu Yu Hakusho then go and read or watch Bleach, it does the same thing you said. Black Clover does when comparing Naruto and Black clovers first two arcs during the plagiarism section and Chainsaw man takes a lot of things from Jujutsu Kaisen and Dorohedoro, the thing you said about Black Clovers first and second arcs as well as other things you compared Black Clover with you can do with other anime and manga but that doesn't mean because they take from other shows they can't add their own unique ideas to what they took, it's funny that you said Black Clover takes from Fairy Tail, in the past people have called Fariy Tail a One Piece clone, I mean people have compared concepts and ideas that naruto has with Ninku, Inuyasha and Slam Dunk and Slam dunk isn't even a battle manga. People have also found things to compare Naruto with Hunter x Hunter and Yu Yu Hakusho
No other anime I know had as many similarities as Naruto and Black Clover. You say they all do but where are examples? Nothing wrong with taking concepts as I said, but this is pretty much copy paste
@@mahistv if you think that's the case then as I said read or watch Saint seiya and Yu yu hakusho then compare both to Bleach it will surprise you and read or watch Hunter x Hunter then watch Naruto you can compare arcs and concepts with them as well
@@mahistv Alot of Naruto arcs themes characters alot of it is inspired by yuyu hakusho hxh and other manga, the Chunin exam arc being heavily inspired by the Hunter Exam and Sasuke being a Kurapuka clone is the most obvious ones but there are so many you wont believe it
I understand. However, I can't look past this - a first quest that starts as something simple then turns into a life or death situation, that happens in a village separated by a bridge, where a hero of the village was brutally killed by the villain in front of everyone, followed by a battle with an ice users who create a mist around the area, finished my a shot of the grave overlooking the area at a sunset. That's too many similarities, considering I don't know of any other story that has this subplot. No story is 100% original indeed, that's why I didn't put much emphasis on the "demon destroys our place and a hero had to sacrifice himself to save us". Again, Naruto did the same, but when I have a similar location, similar powers, similar villain behavior and a very similar conclusion (the grave scene), I have questions. For resurrections, I was throwing shade at both Naruto and Black Clover. Also, I'd disagree that "In a sense BC demands that you are familiar with shonen tropes", I say you should be pretty unfamiliar to enjoy it, because it will all look new and interesting.
Pedant - a person who is excessively concerned with minor details and rules or with displaying academic learning. How is world-building, entire magic-system, battles in battle shonen and so on are a MINOR detail? Also, I'm talking about DS in the exact same way when I analyze it. Have you seen what I had to say on DS Corps?
I will say, I understand your reasoning a LOT more than most people who claim it's bad. My only issue with the series itself is the animation and certain inconsistencies here and there but for the most part, I still love it. I finished the anime back when the dub ended, watched the movie, and read some of the manga past that point and I'd say the main things that kept me coming back are the characters, the struggles they face, the messages, themes, and the world itself. Yes, there are plenty of stories like it that have been done before but Black Clover is one of the few that stuck with me on a personal level. It's not for everyone and it's not perfect, nothing is. But I do like how you're not blindly hating on it or calling it mid and you also had good things to say along with your criticisms.
@@joaquimbarbosa896 Yeah, that makes sense. If I like something, I tend to think about it a lot, myself. But it's usually focusing on parts that got me hyped, the openings, or the characters themselves.
A "bad" Anime can also be you favorite Anime as long as you are enjoying it. Bad doesn't mean that you can not enjoy an Anime and just because an Anime is well liked doesn't mean that this Anime is good. A good anime tries to maximize its strengths and minimize its weaknesses. There isn't a flawless Animes, but Animes like Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood does this method really good.
The other characters are there to be good characters and to support themselves, asta and the captains. They are not strong in their own right but together they can do a lot. Black bulls and mimosa has done a lot to me
i will say one of the biggest things i hate about the show is its power scaling that shi is so bad might just be the worse ive seen from any anime period
Your Naruto comparison in the plagiarism part is exactly what I noticed as well, and when I brought it up to my friend who got me to watch Black Clover, he got mad and said Naruto is shit, which told me enough about his taste.
The thing is, people try to defend it by saying "its just a trope", "other shonen have similar plot", but there literally is no other piece of fiction that had these exact scenes
my favorite character is Gordon because he's not super annoying and his audio is super low, the funny part is that he's super wholesome and actually has good character development and his audio increases but everyone still brushes him off as creepy and his character is more of a gag which i think is a real shame.
3 days late but i would like to point something out about your plagiarising point.(Please correct me if im wrong) First in the first episode the genin exam thing and the grimoire thing is very different imo. The genin exams qualifies them to be able to go on ninja missions and gives them the lowest rank. The grimoire ceremony thing is just giving them books to help them with their growth iirc (Again its been a minute so please correct me if im remembering incorrectly). Also i dont really watch fairy tale but i dont see how the black bulls hideout is the same as the fairy tale guild. Finally for the sharingan point the tomoe symbol is pretty popular in japan im pretty sure and the way they work is different @@mahistv
That in my opinion is Black Clover's only flaw and I can't fully blame the staff for it given how much the higher ups tried to sabotage to show for a shitter Naruto series in the form of Boruto (I hate Boruto not because its bad, which it is, but because it's existence ruined the black clover anime and potentially discontinued the anime all together)
i dont know what r u talking about the magic system is good(u just complained about something soo stupid here) asta is one of the best mc's to think that this mc made me change my life tells something about the character, asta lost alot of battles in the manga he lost alot and inside the anime also, the world building is good, the animation was bad until the spade arc cus they didnt care about bc until this arc and the plot twist inside the manga is one of the best(aizen lvl my opinion)
This is not even half of what I was talking about... As for magic, I dislike that it's too convenient (people are getting whatever powers they need, whenever they need them) and that magic seems to be a part of the daily life of everyone, but once something happens, they all behave like it doesn't exist. Asta barely lost a fight, because even when he does, he gets aided by his friends and powers through regardless of the obstacle, winning the battle anyway.
Bell stopping time is even worse when you realize it completely goes against how magic works in BC since she's a Wind Spirit yet somehow she did a feat only Julius would be capable of and is never explained or brought up again. And she does this in her child form, making the powerscaling for Spirits weird since Salamander was OP when used by Midnight Sun Fauna but is garbage when Fuegoleon gets him even though Fuego should be on Yuno's level before he came an Elf based on how strong he got with Bell and Fuego being a noble too.
@@mahistv Neverland can stop the flow of Time Magic in the latest manga chapters but Bell never displays actual time stopping again after her debut in Black Clover.
@@mahistv i agree I didn’t mean any disrespect tho I’m subscribed to you & watch most of your content cause it’s good I’m just surprised you didn’t like black clover
Your comparisons of the main cast literally had me cackling and made my day. Ulquiorra on meth indeed 😂 Also, not to sound nitpicky, but Hinata is not a Senju...
Hinata and Mimosa are similar, Mimosa uses floral magic, she can heal. Hashirama Senju - can use floral magic and Tsunade (Senju) can heal. Thus, Hinata Senju. I originally wanted to call her "Hinata who studied under Tsunade" but that was too lengthy.
NGL I really loved the show when I first watched it and thought(and still think mostly nostalgia haven't rewatched) the elf revival arc was peak fiction. But after like a couple of years I continued watching the arcs after that arc and didn't enjoy it much. I really did feel that the writing wasn't good and only the action scenes were goo there were bland characters so takes away from the charm of the fights
It's been a long time coming. Hope I clarified my position well, as it's VERY rare that I straight up hate a show.
Could you make a video on a recent manga rather anime?
Honestly, what I got from this video was that you basically hate Black clover for mostly the same reasons I hate MHA🤣😂🤣
And Honestly, I too get how you feel, the only saving grace/Pass I'm willing to give Black clover and its flaws is the Fact that every @sspull moment in the show can be explained by Luscious Organizing everything (Quite literally Bending Time) to get the outcomes he wants🤷♂️
100% bad guy😂😂😂 i couldn't sleep the entire night thinking about it
It's ok bro 👌🏽. Not everyone likes everything
Oof I feel sorry for you. Wasting 50 episodes of your life....
I may like Black Clover but I do want to see why you don't
Strap yourself in, we going on a rant!
Same
based “i acknowledge all opinions” take
@@mahistvgo watch broku's stream on this video.
Good to open yourself to new opinions and criticism.
Personally I agree with your animation takes, but definitely not any of the plagiarism ones.
@@thehdtv7552 broku is the black clover greatest defender lol
In my opinion one of the worst problems is the power scaling . I get that asta has an unconventional ability, but he should still be waaaaaay weaker than a captain. Asta basically being stronger than entire squad especially when he’s a newbie seems kinda cheap
Yes, and they justify it by him training his body 24/7. What about experience and such? Put a powerlifter twice the size of an average MMA fighter and it won't be even a challenge.
this ages poorly LMAO he's stronger than most of them
@@mockouchiha7579 That’s my point. It’s pointless giving the captains such a highly regarded title if asta can just walk in and be stronger than them in such a small amount of time. (Even if he does have a rlly powerful ability)
@@broskibrobro1278this argument makes no sense. This stuff happens in literally every manga and anime with an underdog Mc. Naruto goes from Kakashi level to 10 tails Madara level in less than a year. Luffy goes from being weaker than doflimingo after the time skip to yonko level in like 4 months. Ichigo goes from getting smacked by weakened Byakuya to beating him in like a week.
The power scaling in black clover isn’t bad.
@@aisaback6221 It’s called an opinion. I never claimed it was a problem that didn’t affect other shows. Just because you’ve listed other examples of similar stuff doesn’t detract from my point.
25:38 I don’t think you know how much people hated this show as early as the first episode. Like there were countless hate videos and posts of black clover when it first aired and it only got praise when the anime got better despite the production team being understaffed and having a weekly release schedule instead of seasonal
I understand, and that's why I specifically said that this video is not about annoying MC, and all the other stuff in the beginning. I only saw it getting worse episode by episode in terms of writing.
To explain the animation of black clover, don't blame the animators, blame the horrible inconsistent staffing and insane last minute freelancing by the higher ups, at 27:33 this ep funnily enough was animated by some of the same animators that brought us jjk season 2, these animators are part of a team called Hakuyu go which is a collection of the most talented animators old and new, so pretty much what happened with this episode was the same issue with every other episode, the horrible schedule and last minute staffing, the studio kept getting freelancer after freelancer and it made the schedule suffer heavily, normally the animation would absolutely be stiff unimaginative, off model and limited due to these constraints but this team said "fuck you" to the animation industry and made kne of the most ambitious episodes ever despite being really bad and somewhat good at the same time with it havinf some great animation sequences but having really bad backgrounds and 3d effects, to basically end it, it isn't the fault of the animation team, it was indeed the fault of things that were out of their control.
Thanks for the insights! I don't blame the animators per say, but there is really no excise for the people in charge, since this studio has produced 1000+ episodes of Naruto and Bleach alone.
@@mahistv oh no, you're good, I'm just here to give a bit of insight on why black Clover's adaptation is the way it is.
Yeah from what I understand the studio wanted most of their budget to go to another more well known sequel to a "really good" anime by the name of Boruto. Unfortunately when people realized how shit Boruto was the studio began to give BC a proper fucking budget and we ended up with the god tier fight of Dante vs Asta and Yami.
For the animation part studio Pierrot did NOT care about black clover. they didn’t even give it a producer to gather talent for the production the director tatsuya yoshihara had to gather talent which is NOT HIS JOB! Idk why they did this to black clover!😭 but the later black clover eps like 80+ look better overall
Well, looks like I was correct about feeling like "people who made it had no love for the show"
@@mahistvno, the person who made it DOES love the show, he was just backed up by people who don't. Love doesn't get you supplies unfortunately
asta's background story and how he gets his grimoire will kinda make more sense In the last episodes of black clover, I think starting fro ep 169-170
I have no problems with that, it's just that he solves every problem there is
@@mahistvfair point, it's just that it's prob the author wants to make it like he finds out slowly that he can solve every problem, magical or physical, he just has to get smarter. which does happen, i do see that the pacing is ass tho.
@@mahistvlike at the end of the dungeon arc where he was defeated by the villain or when they kidnapped him at the end of the raid or when Gauche saved him and Yami ass in the cave or how Noelle saved him against Vetto or how he could end him thanks to Vanessa and Finral moving him.
Unc, i need your opinions on Geges writing. Im conflicted after shibuys arc🗿
We will get there soon, thoughts are indeed conflicted
gege is gaygay.
shibuya arc is literally the one arc that he wrote well
@@Trathien- oh no no, it's not Shibuya arc. I loved that one. Its the arcs after ....
@@mahistv Interesting 😅
I'm wondering if you'll discuss stuff that happened in the manga.
11:34 -yes their quantity could give me a little trouble
-but would you lose?
-nah I'd win
hehe, I see what you did there
4:45 During his panic while trapped in spacial magic Yami’s grimoire started glowing. The scene you showed Yami says he would have never learned this spell if the bulls didn’t get him enough time.
So again, all he had to do is to raise his blood pressure a bit and wait to get a new spell. Last time I checked, people hated a certain mark for this exact same reason.
@@mahistv The Mark doesn’t function the same way and it is not explained at the beginning of the series like the magic in Black Clover. It’s not about raising blood pressure.
@@mahistv it's kind of explicitly explained that the easiest way to learn spells in black clover is through some kind of intense stress or emotional response, they explain it a few episodes in when it happens with Noelle
I lile black clover and you don’t, which is okay.
But your takes are completely unreasonable, especially the naruto part
Naruto has NO INFLUENCO ON BC, if you did your research, you would know that it is influenced by bleach and berserk.
If you read to the elf raid arc, you will find your character development, even for luck.
Your right with the black clover deaths so
I respect that. BUT, I just showed you 3 separate cases of extremely suspicions similarities. No other shonen does something SO similar, in the same order and the same manner.
@@mahistvthe bridge is irrelevant in BC and in Naruto is the entire point of the arc. And well Final Fantasy 4 starts with the MC going to a village for a mission and the first boss is a Mist dragon with ice attacks and during his way to the village there is also bridges
Also you did the Sharingan comparison that even Japameses called bullshit. Sharingan has tomoes, Tengentsu has magatamas. Tengentsu is based in Tengenjutsu a type of divination based in the Yin Yang and that charactet has someone with the opposite personality that has also magatamas, in the chest in his case. That character is also Ruu, dragon and the other has a tiger motive 2 animals that also can appear with the Yin Yang.
@@mahistv"extremely suspicious similarities", no, you misappropriated pieces of information, in order to make it look like black clover is ripping Naruto off.
There is nothing similar between Naruto's first ark, and black clover's first arc. You brought up a bridge? Not only is that wholly irrelevant, but it is likely just a part of the city and has nothing to do with the story whatsoever. That's what I mean by misappropriate, you are attempting to make black clover look bad by stretching and reaching.
Garra and Mars are nothing alike, be so serious.
And pretty much every other "similarity" you mentioned, is just tropes. Most of black clover's main cast are based on tropes. They further develop later in the series, that's like, the whole appeal of the black bulls.
the plagerism part geuienly made me want to lobomize my self after hearing the shit you actually spouted dawg
Bro really said ''it also has a bridge'' and decided it was a good point
@@loloman0 like fr bro completely forgor that both arcs had zero similarities apart from oh mist guy dies ice MAN and murder demon man who turns good at the end which btw never happens in bc during this arc
A first quest that starts as something simple then turns into a life or death situations, that happens in a village separated by a bridge, where a hero of the village was brutally killed by the villain in front of everyone, followed by a battle with an ice users who create a mist around the area, finished my a shot of the grave overlooking the area at a sunset. If you can give me another piece of writing that has this sequence (any fiction, not just anime) I'll apologize to you specifically in a separate video.
@@mahistv the mist magic user is a different person and the mist that exist the land of the waves arc is cause it's related to the "mist village"
@@mahistv 1 ice user who is the only important villian of that arc the others were basically watching
1 read the manga (would fix 90% of your issues), 2 you are zooming out to an incredible level to find similarities between BC and other series to the point of being disingenuous (also to compare BC to Naruto for an example of plagiarism is laughable at best given Naruto's own issues in that regards), 3 to reiterate, the anime suffered incredibly from filler amount, understaffing, and available budget.
The majority of this series is all setup for a payoff 330 chapters in advanced. Not that prior to that isn't good but a lot of what's happening is purposeful from a certain character.
The side characters being worfed for the villain of an arc is incredibly common, complaint was nonsense.
Nobles (they were in the royal realm) are used to having everything done for them specifically by magic knights. The king is an incredible example of this given he has a 1 to 1 relationship with someone who does his entire job for them. His magic is literally useless. Most Nobles are cowards as well. Them not using magic to defend or run away perfectly encapsulates their incompetency and highlight exactly what's wrong with their society.
The magic evolving during times of duress is legit explained lol
Asta rarely wins alone until after the time skip with the exception of a couple in the Elf reincarnation. Even after the time skip he only has a few lone W's
All said and done this was just a bandwagon response video. Read the manga.
1. How is it disingenuous when I point out exact similarities between two shows, 3 separate cases and its almost a carbon copy. Naruto itself didn't copy stuff that blatantly and I even explained how one can borrow ideas in the right way.
2. JJK also suffered from understaffing for a bit, but they still delivered great episodes. As I've said, BC is one of the most expensive animes on the planet and what they have produced is an unacceptable budget/quality ratio.
3. Nobles are a fraction of Capitals population. Even if it was 10%, what about the other 90%? Why NOBODY is using any magic, not to escape, not to fight, not to do anything?
4. Asta has the HIGHEST win-rate out of all the shonen characters which is about 93%. It's absurd.
5. How is me reading the manga going to change my opinion about the core concepts of the show?
1.cant speak for this as I don't know
2. Jjk is seasonal bc is not so they have WAY less time to work on each episode
3. The capital is OVER 90%nobles..... not the other way around.... besides that it's explained that most commoners need to rely on magic tools to use magic in their day to day as support and that peasants on average are effectively magic less...
4. While it's true his win rate is high in most cases it's only with help that was VITAL DURING the fight.... not to see his allies be defeated one after the other to rile him up and eventually solo.....
5.i would say that because of their short time of production for each episode along with the inherent weaknesses of animation (the skipping of things like world building and exposition in order for the episodes to flow better) caused you to miss several things
Also something of myself:
No the 5 leaf clover isn't actually visible so people can't tell.... besides that in a world of magic having the ability to neutralise that VERY concept would leave most people outright terrified.... imagine someone being born in our world who can remove our ability to breathe....
Also there is a LOT of TRAINING in bc it's CONSTANTLY gets referenced but rarely shown true... while I agree that a suddenly new ability can be off-putting they make sense in context:
In order:
-noelle: awakening the desire to protect
-gauche: considering supporting someone for the first time instead of only fighting alone
-noelle: finally acquiring the confidence she needs to fight alongside her teammates instead of only looking after the innocent
-noelle: realising that she in order to protect those she cares about must be willing to bring harm to others or outright kill them even if she might put people in danger....
I could honestly keep going but I'm stopping here for a obvious reason...
Also yes fuegoleon was taken out which socks.... but not only does it put the Villains as an actual threat it also shows a hidden side of nozel (noelle's oldest brother) by making him not only feel shame the capital was attacked but also swearing to get personal revenge... this is later elaborated on that nozel and fuegoleon have been rivals for a long time in the battle with the 3rd eye.....
@@mahistv
1. hxh nuff said lol
2. JJK probably still had an animation director, something BC lacked for over 150 episodes. it also explains the cost given they had to outsource so much.
3. Commoners aren't even allowed into the Noble realm except for the star festival and work so that's nonsense.
4. You're just spouting lie after lie, Asta's W/L ratio is waaaay lower than you're stating. An incredibly quick google search proves you wrong XD
5. Because you're not getting the Author's original vision which is the problem with 90% of your opinion. The character tropes aren't hyped on, the art is phenomenal, no filler to make said art worse, etc, etc, etc
At this point tho I'm nearly convinced you're just a salty Naruto stan given the comparisons and the defence
Read the manga
@@mahistvdefend yourself lil bro
@@mahistv Bc had multiple directors heavily understaffed episodes and barley any time, jjk was also understaffed and had a little amount of time but the difference is they had too make 21 well animated episodes compared too 50+ anime episodes thats why the difference in animation quality was apparent jjk had huge issues when it came to scheduling but bc was a living nightmare in comparison 💀
11:06 what do you mean “regular guards”? the magic knights are the guards. The series doesn’t even mention a secondary system like that so that complaint makes no sense.
People who couldn't become knight but still want to protect their land. Example, police in MHA. You can't tell me there is only a few hundred "magic knights" in the whole country, who is dealing with all the civil affairs? the courts? the prison? That's not enough, you need a thousand people to support the capital alone.
@@mahistvRoyals and nobles run the courts. Magic Knights put people in prison. MHA built the hero system into current society so the police already existed. Black Clover magic always existed. The forsaken realm is the forsaken realm for a reason.
there is actually some evidence of the kingdom having a sort of "police force" besides the magic knights, but that system seems to only really exist in the capitol and the mages employed there are weak in comparison to the magic knights, they don't seem to exist in places other than there though most likely because of the rampant corruption
@@onesmart229 Thats just not enough, you'd need a hell lot of people in all those areas + prety sure there were secondary wizards defending the capital
Most of this video makes no sense.
Bro hates black clover and likes demon slayer ok
Just don't let us see you switch up when spade kingdom gets animated
So, you saying people can't change their opinion when they get new information? That's kinda dumb
He likes Demon Slayer? I just watched a video of his from 8 months ago titled why demon slayer sucks. Mahistv is a huge JJK fan for sure, bro thinks JJK is different from every other shonen lol.
While it's nice to see another comprehensive opinion on a show that I love that doesn't align with mine.
But I believe that at some points you weren't paying attention to the story and giving unfair reasons to dislike bc. This was mainly due to your bc vs Naruto bit which actually weakens your stance.
I know you've probably seen this a lot but Asta has never had a true solo win, sure the animation makes him look flashy and cool but if the others were not there he would be true fodder no matter how powerful anti magic is.
That vetto fight was ment to show the family aspect of the black bulls and how their loyalty and team work actually puts them a cut above the rest of the magic knight squads.
Just because Naruto popularised the shounen formula doesn't mean bc is a "naruto clone", and i say this because asta has a better relationship with his rival yuno without the need to kill each other on site like other shows do. Just because asta got a new fancy sword does not invalidate the immense training and hardwork he puts in which is seen as early as the first episode. Even after this we're always given scenes of him training throughout the anime.
Black Clover is far from perfect as there are things that I would narratively change myself. But if the animators were given the proper time to cook the reception would be more positive than cheap shots at its individually. As you've only watched 50 episodes most of the problems that you have for black clover are improved upon later on but if you clearly have no interest now I wouldn't force you to watch it as you have dropped it. I'm glad you at least gave it a chance
I agree with "rare solo wins", but that is part of my complaint. Overall, he barely loses, because his side ends up winning somehow, yes he might be knocked out, but then there is Yuno, Yami, Noelle who will win it for him. There are no stakes. And the only reason I compared it to Naruto so much, is because there way too many similarities in the beginning.
As for improving later, I will read the manga when it comes out and see if my opinion changes.
Ok, this video was very garbage.
You keep saying asta is op and does everything by himself, but that is flat out wrong.
Yes, anti magic is an anomaly that has the answer to pretty much most magic related circumstances(no shit), but asta pretty much never does it alone he always had other people helping him. Everyone pretty much works together to help him get the final shot.
Also, asta has never won all of his fights he literally lost to npcs in the capital invasion arc, and if yami hadn't shown up vetto would've blown all of them up.
And as for u hating on the power system its ur opinion so all the power to u but you fail to realize that they unlock new spells through character development and the spell they unlock is based on the situation theyre in rn.
Eg noelle's first was a defensive spell because she wanted to protect people who were begging to be saved. Gauche unlocks the oiwer to mqke doubles of his allies after he stops being self centered and actually starts to care for other people. And yami literally couldnt espace from the barrier until he learned a new spell when he saw his found family about to be killed and since youve not read the manga this famoly means they world to him. Mages can also learn new spells from training btw which is shown in later arcs. And fyi asta and yuno are the 2 most hardworking individuals in the show just because it isnt shown on screen doesnt mean it's not there. Asta wouldnt even have been able to pick up his swords if he didn't train his body and even when he could he couldnt use them until he got trained by someone. And most of thr powerups we see from yuno is also the fruits of his training whoch is mostly his control of mana.
As for you stating thats the side characters feel like they didnt do anything how is that a bad thing they tried valiantly but sometimes the opponent is too strong for them that's just how it is sometimes and also those fights are more for developing/showing their relationships which become relavent later on (i hate the mentality that everything beeds to pay off instantly) and black clover is a masterat forshadowing stiff hundreds of chapters beforehand.
and when you said asta does everything i totally remember him fighting licht and vetto one on one.
And the constant showing of the characters tropes is an anime exclusive thing to pad out the time. The manga is much faster and has gorgeous art.
I can go on and on but you get my point. Black clover is a much deeper show than people give it credit for. There are some dumb moments im not denying that, but stop pretending like it's a turn off ur brain kind of show.
The whole point about the production value of this show was outright insulting to the people who poured their blood and sweats on this show. It's obvious you dont know shit about how anime production actually works. You can give 1 billion dollar budget to a studio, but if they dont get enough time and proper scheduling its gonna look shit.
And the animators absolutely love this show, which is why some ep look even as good as they do. Ep 119 whoch was pretty much the finake of the first saga of bc was completed literallycminutes before the ep aired, and if you've seen that episode, it actually looked good.
Oh, and the author never said Naruto is his inspiration. Its dragon ball bleach berserk and yuyu hakusho. And the "plagarism" you told are literally the most vanilla stuff every shounen under the sun does.
I don't think it's that serious... If he insulted you that much you could've just not finished the video and also yeah it's just wizard Naruto with a more annoying mc
Asta has the highest win-rate of all shonen MC. 90%+ and it's just boring. I also said that the side characters are wtitten well and that the plot is interesting, so not sure why you complain about that.
As for Naruto, dude, I don't know how much more clear I need to be, because there NO other anime that borrows that much from Naruto.
@mahistv idk where you're getting your data from but his winrate is 63.64% 28 wins and 16 losses which is one of the lowest winrates actually. And before ypu say but thats probably in the manga heres asta's loses in the first 6 arcs.
He lost to npcs, licht, ladros,the witch queen and would've lost to heath,vetto,rades,fana and Mars if he didn't have people helping him. He has not won a single fight himself so plz enlightenment me how thats him having the highest winrate.
I was talking about how you said the side characters were useless, and I explained just why that's not the case.
And like I said before all of the stuff black clover uses are troupes every shounen does. Every one of those "copies" that you claim bc took from naruto have been done in other anime before naruto.
Eg demon inside the mc yuyu hakusho did that. Sasuke's entire character is made from kurapika and hiei 2 characters by togashi. A giant monster appearing thats from dragon ball. Asta/naruto being hot-headed but determined kid litetally every shounen ever. Now Am I going to say naruto is a carbon copy of hxh yuyu hakusho and db ofcourse not because I'm not stupid and realize realize inspirations exist and naruto's and bc's authors put their own spins on that.
THANK YOU. I was going to write a reply to this video just to clarify the situation about the production and how much respect Yoshihara and his team deserve for fighting through one of the most mistreated productions in anime history.
It is perfectly fine to dislike a show for any reason, I love bc because the protagonist has a disadvantage from the get go and has to earn every victory, plus a little plot, but every show has a tiny bit of plot armor
I respect that. Though Plot Armor is not that big of an issue compared to everything else
@@mahistvIn my opinion, Black Clover has the most plot armor of any manga ive read.
Tho i just think about it as "its a shonen" and move on with my day.
But the fact you dont really need to train and can just randomly pull a move out your arse (Like you mentioned Yami in the underwater temple), that i just dont like at all.
@@vizard7548 gotta disagree with you on yami, his team was being beaten, and we know magic can respond to your will, so his grimoire making a new spell to answer him that also fits his skill set is good, but I could potentially be mistaken on that
Not saying you can't like it, you do you, but the show does have a TON of plot armor
26:17 you said are 50 episodes in so you don’t know Licht’s story.
I read it.
@@mahistv then what do you mean by “we’ve seen all that in Naruto and Bleach”? Licht’s story is not like Kurama’s or Yhwach’s the two characters you chose to show.
12:06 one of the magic knight test was how well you ride a broom and you see multiple ordinary people struggle. The story has answered much of this section with the magic knight exam.
Don't make a judgement about the whole group of people based on a minority. Just because a few people struggle, doesn't mean that everyone do. And again, you are missing my point. I haven't seen ANYBODY from regular people using magic in extraordinary situation, which contradicts the show's exposition - everyone is able to use magic from childhood, meaning they will use it on par with their arms, legs and so on.
@@mahistv ordinary people use magic to do the basics. It wasn’t “regular people doing extraordinary things”. It’s you chop wood with magic, you boil water with magic, you dry clothes with magic, you farm with magic and if you don’t have magic the world really isn’t built for you. The show says “in this world magic is everything” not “everyone is extraordinary”. Just because you can boil water or chop wood doesn’t mean you fly on a broom.
@@onesmart229 The most basic thing you can do in life is freaking survive, and people don't seem to try using magic for that
@@joaquimbarbosa896 you mean like cooking, cleaning, farming, travel, or do you just mean fighting?
@@onesmart229 If you get atacked you will either try your luck fighting or try to run, and use everything you can in order to survive
Black clover is actually one of the few anime where the side character and female characters actually defeats a major villain on like some other anime which if the mc doesn't show up then the battle aint ending
I've only seen Noelle attempt this so far, so I can't really say much here
@@mahistv magna did that too (the fire guy) tho its not animated yet
@@vickvicks that's 2 big deal
@@vickvicks Magna, Yuno, Noelle, and Yami are the ones I can think of that did that.
@@mahistvmagna, yuno, meroleona ,rill, Charlotte ,luck Noelle , some of the team work battles in black clover ,these ppl helped to defeat the bad guy without asta help , asta barely has a single wins , his wins mostly comes from assists , pls read the manga
1:24 Luck the Smiling battle maniac. Is he smiling? yes. Is he a battle maniac? yes. Where's the lie? You made your own expectations the show didn't do that. And was defeated by the guy who fought Yami once.
2:26 It's a weekly Shonen people forget how characters are over time. when you binge it doesn't hold up but when you watch it weekly it's fine.
4:35 Yeah Yami surpassed his limits and gained a new spell. that's part of the magic system. It's baked in. The show mixed power ups with character growth and training, it's quite smart.
4:44 Yami no diffing Vetto did ruin their victory, but it re established Yami as a top fighter, It could've been handled better.
5:16 Luck and Magna were the two mentors for the past seasons having them beaten shows the stakes. Vetto is a Captain level threat. you can't rely on past arcs to say how strong someone is, you need re establish it for the audience. since he was a minor character.
6:13 That's fair you can hate the power system, that's fine.
6:25 This statement is wrong. Even 1 page dude does get a power up.
7:42 The world of Black Clover is just like that. the dungeon wasn't even that dangerous compared to other places. They're not ganna baby the characters, they're knights.
8:13 This is a terrible analogy because you do need to train. It takes training plus character growth to gain a new spell.
8:47 Black Clover has build up, when characters grow as characters they gain a spell. That's locked in, since the first arc. It's rule within the universe. if you see a character growing they're ganna gain a new spell. Would you prefer them to off screen the ability then show it in the arc? Because the do, do that with Yuno, all the time.
9:49 Yeah, that's the point, the MC is moving the plot. The nation has been fixed in their corrupt ways but now that Asta's there he's making actual change. The Black bulls were lazy until Asta's never give up mentality motivated them to do more. The Asta effect.
9:57 because they're under estimating him and they're classist, how did you miss that? When they do investigate him after defeating Zagred, they banish him. Because they're corrupt.
They don't care about Asta, They didn't even care about Yuno who had a 4 leaf grimoire. Because their classism was that deep. People who discriminate as hard as the Nobles, are stupid. look at our world. Did anyone care about how smart the poor kid was before he got straight A's? No! they only care once it affects them. That's the point, the series is showing how blind the corruption has made these people.
11:01 Did you miss the propaganda? Magic is everything. it's the lie we've been told since day one. the peasants do nothing because they think they're nothing. People who are looked down upon don't try to over throw their oppressors. Look at slavery. If all the slaves ganged up they could over throw their captors. But they were constantly belittled and made to think they can't. Peasants don't think they can fight back, they rely on the strong magic knights because that's what they've been told. When the Black bulls came second place at the star festival people were shocked. they thought the Black bulls were the worst and will always be like that. They believed the status quo would never change. so they don't try to change it.
12:07 I FULLY AGREE. The anime is drawn terribly, it needs a remaster. They should have stopped making Boruto filler and given the budget to Black Clover to hire an animation director.
17:25 Black Clover did copy Bleach, berserk, Dragonball, YuYu hakusho, maybe One Piece, but never Naruto or fairy tail that's just plain wrong, did you not research this? why did you use fairy tail and Naruto, Bleach is right there. Your points is right, but your info is wrong.
20:49 WTF? You know about the problems the anime shows, I thought it flew over your head, but nah you just didn't think about it? Bruh. the answers were right in front of you.
23:34 Your expectations weren't met in that moment, but in the next arc Asta does learn and instead of killing Fana he saves her with the help of mars another guy he wanted to save and got saved.
24:19 I agree Fridging Fuegoleon was a mistake.
25:01 Agreed. They do it too often. They gotta stop.
Good video, read the manga if you hate the animation, I wish it was better, it's a good story. The manga is hype, look for answers to your questions because they exist, in the show.
Thank you, I'll read the manga when it fully comes out and see if It changes my opinion.
1. Actually fair, however, we were specifically told that he likes winning too, so I was under the impression that he is supposed to be capable.
2. Dude, if you forget this kind of trivia about a character in a week, you should see a doctor. No way anyone is forgetting that Noelle is royalty after her introduction.
3. I dislike that system, it's too cheesy.
4. No, it established that Ass-pulls save the day and the victory is not earned, it's given by the plot.
5. We already know the stakes as I said, this was redundant and diminished their characters for me.
6. Ties into point 3, glad you understand.
7. Hmmm, then what's the point of making a 1 page such a big deal?
8. They are still newbies, I understand that Julius wanted to see them shine, but that's too risky, and a potential source of conflict with another nation.
9. I didn't say you don't need training. I said you need to discover something first before you can use it. You could have been doing heart surgeries all your life, but if you go and operate on the brain, it would be quite different and I doubt you'd be allowed to. Again, ties into point 3.
10. I'd prefer them developing an ability before using it. Ex. Gon with Jajanken, Naruto with Rasengan, even Ichigo with his Hollow Mask. Sometimes a power up mid battle is fine, but not all the time.
11. I'd prefer other characters doing something. Ex. Hunter X Hunter, Parasyte: the Maxim, Overlord. In these cases the world exists and things happen outside main character, making the MC a cog (an important cog), but not an engine.
12. What do you mean underestimate him? For all intents and purposes, Asta is disabled by their world standards - he is missing a core part of his anatomy. So when this magically crippled person becomes a Knight and gets invited by the Wizzard King himself, ain't no way people won't look into it. It's an equivalent of a paraplegic competing in regular Olympics and getting some results. The whole community will get involved.
13. I see your analogy with slavery and that's a good point. However, people in Royal Capital should have a bit more pride than a "slave" and more skill too. Also, this still doesn't explain why they don't try to use magic even for fleeing.
14. I wish there can be a remaster, but I don't think that's happening :(
15. Hmmm. My research was watching both Naruto and Black Clover. I brought up 3 examples of extreme resemblance and no other shonen has that many similarities with one another. Take the Licht VS Kyubi attack. They are similar, but different enough not to count is as plain copy paste. Mars though... I'm sorry, his character arc and abilities are just Gaara with minor changes. I don't know how can I be more clear.
Also, when I said Fairy Tail, I meant that we've seen similar plot-lines there, not that Black Clover copied it.
16. I did and I don't see what answers I didn't get.
17. Too bad, I'll read it in the manga at some point.
18. 100%, dude deserved better.
19. To be honest, that's a problem of many classic shonens
@@mahistv
2. I can remember stuff like that, but trust me there are tons of people who forget things after a week. People straight up forget who characters are. It's very much necessary.
4. That's a fair stance to have. I personally consider asspulls to be something that comes out of no where with no explanation. In Black Clover we're given an explanation so I don't consider it an asspull.
7. Propaganda. People discriminate. That's the point. People's differences don't matter in Black Clover. Hard work is all you need that's why Asta is so powerful. People think they need a big grimoire full of pages or a ton of mana. But thats just nobleist propaganda.
8. Magic is a very wild thing. If you are strong enough and imagine what you want you gain a spell. But in order to fully picture the spell you'd need mental clarity, we see time and time again. Rill is the best example. He needs to imagine the picture in order to use his paint magic. Or take Noelle. She gained sea dragons roar, a final flash reference. It was hinted at for a while. Her first spell was sea dragons nest, he out of control water from had those crazy spirals. Eventually she gained Sea Dragons Roar. Very much hinted at not an asspull. Even Yami's dimension slash was hinted at. He had Black Slash, Black hole and was trapped in spacial magic, and he dimension slash. Not the best hinted. I'll agree. All other spells are better hinted at. Even Yami's next spells.
11. That's a fine stance to have. But stuff does happen outisde the MC. But it is inspired by the MC. Yuno is working as hard as Asta and making a big splash. Asta inspires people and they go out and do change. Similar to Luffy who inspires people to be better and make changes in the world.
12. Yeah that's the point it's dumb. And there's tons of real world examples like that. People who are disabled are often looked down upon and people don't think to look into their achievements. And the clover kingdom is hella stuck up. When they do investigate Asta they wanna kill him but instead he's banished. So they do investigate him eventually. Once they can't ignore him anymore.
13. Alot of people don't have attack or transportation magic, and rely on magic knights. Fight or flight, they chose flight. And without a broom nearby they ran. When Asta becomes Wizard king he better start mandatory combat training for the citizens. They are very dumb.
15. Its called confirmational bias. You watched Naruto and Black Clover and looked for similarities. Even tho Black Clover isn't inspired by Naruto at all. I could look at Mary had s little lamb and say its a biblical reference because Jesus was known as the lamb of God. And his mom was named Mary. But thats not what the story is based on. No matter how similar it is, if I were to say it was based on the bible that would be lying. It'd be spreading misinformation which you are doing because you didn't do enough research. Its really easy to look up what Yuki Tabata stated to be his inspiration for Black Clover. And it's not Naruto. He's never even stated to have even read Naruto. And until he does comparing the two and claiming they're the same is just misinformation. Because they did did steal, heavily from Berserk, Bleach, YuYu Hakusho and DragonBall. Its very obvious when comparing them. And it's factual to say that any similarities are definitely copied, because we know he's read them.
You really should finish Black Clover, the manga definitely. It's extremely hype.
@@mahistv 7. The big deal is that he never got better and never tried to, otherwise he would have got more pages: that's the real reson why he was banished by the magic knights.
He is considered worthless for that reason.
They made Luck out to be this badass, crazed maniac. The lesson he learned about relying on friends is fine and dandy but they told us he a one man army without ever showing it. He god kid diffed in the first fight we ever see him
I have some disagreements:
1. plagiarism: Saying that BC is a copy of Naruto because he saved a person that believes in him, gtfo
2. Saying an arc is a copy because there is a bridge, ice and mist? Gtfo
3. As you said yourself getting ideas and changing them is fine. Fairy tail guild is now somehow the standard for fantasy guilds? Come on that idea is ancient
4. Yes the author is clearly grabbing characters from a bunch of other shows and for the secondaries he barely does anything with them. But that’s totally fine, a story can never be 100% unique nowadays; everything has already been written if you nitpick enough.
5. On the lack of training, in a lot of magic based stories asspulls happen because magic in difference to pseudo magic (Nen, chakra) is really chaotic. If you dislike what happens that’s fine, it’s a fair point but magic shows usually do stuff like this of getting power ups in the middle of a fight.
And if you think Naruto made resurrection I am sorry I disagree that’s a super ancient trope. Just like how Sasuke backstory can be reduced to a typical samurai revenge story, the details and progression are what determines if it’s plagiarism or not.
In other words I understand your take but disagree mainly on plagiarism and power system parts.
I definitely think BC has a too many characters problem (although I think this could have been solved by reducing the number of squads/magic groups). BC is something that is not for everyone and that’s fine. In a sense BC demands that you are familiar with shonen tropes but at the same time that you don’t pick it apart too much, since I would say it’s more shallow than JJK, but if you are willing to go with you get some good fighting choreography and the characters are simple and easy to root for.
Well that’s it for me.
The thing is normal hunting pigs mission went to a death and life situation + bridge + ice user and grave scene
Too many similar things at the same time at least if they changed some of it then it wouldn't matter but it looks like a copy paste except for Noelle who's actually useful
How can you claim to have only watched up to epi 50 and yet complain about events in the manga which you don't have context for?
If we talking about the guy who was was saved by Mimosa... Man, I've read the whole thing, and there was not 1, but 2 whole death fake outs for that dude specifically. First, he was supposed to die because of some curse/ability and then he was burned to a crisp.
@@mahistv I don't even remember that first one.
Okay so before I get into it, I will say that I am absolutely a black clover fan boy. I love Asta, most of the characters and the general story. I will say I agree with some of your takes. The animation is not good for most of the show, the characters constantly repeating their tropes gets annoying and sometimes it would be nice to see regular people fight back. However, wow the rest of your takes are literally just…wrong.
1) the side characters do contribute. It’s all a team effort. Just because the main character deals the final blow does not mean everyone else was useless. I’m guessing you want everyone to deal the final blow at the same time then
2) no the magic system is not plot armor or conveniences. The powerups are related to characters development in their mind set, similar to JJK which you praise. You just don’t like how it’s done so you say it’s bad. Idk abt that sir
3) no it’s not plagiarism. If it was so many anime would be taken down for plagiarism. Their tropes and they’re not exclusive to Naruto. It’s inspired by Naruto but it’s not a copy. Yuno is a great example because he is a more positive spin on the “edgy rival trope”. Just because characters are similar does not mean they are copies.
Honestly I just think you hate the show and it’s just not your style. Some of your points are great and valid but the others are flat out wrong. Sorry. Again I am totally bias and feel free to disagree.
1. Yes, when some characters like Luck are presented as "badass", I need to see that, not hear.
2. I know how it's done. When the plot demands it, the character levels up, because they were in a situation where "stress" made them stronger. If JJK was running on the same fumes, Itadory would have been using Sukunas Domain Expansion during the Shibuya.
3. Give me another example of the first episode that has everything I mentioned. I've watched hundreds of shows and specifically went to check the first episode of top 20 shonens. Only Naruto and BC were this similar.
I'm going to preface this by saying I mean no hate
a lot of these points are... misinformed or disingenuous, I do agree with some of them but for others it kind of just feels like twisting things in the most unfavorable way possible just to tack another thing on, especially prevalent with the plagiarism complaint, even if it did copy you seem to give JJK a lot more benefit of the doubt for what, in your own description, are very similar things and extremely comparable on the superficial level you compared it to naruto at.
It's ok to not like the series but its not really in the scope to just say baseless accusations just because you don't like it, it goes outside the realm of an "opinion" or an "objective flaw" and turns into just slander
I'd like to stress again that I mean no hate, but damn it was hard to sit through hearing things that could just be easily refuted with one sentence or a reference to stuff in the actual show and I'm not even a big fan of the show or anything.
Don't worry, I don't take it as hate.
To address the BC vs JJK implementing others' ideas - Black Clover took ideas from Naruto and blatanly copied them, without changing much nor improving on them. Mars is a carbon copy Gaara with some cosmetic changes. Jujutsu Kaisen on the other hand, yes, also copied stuff, but their "Edo Tensei" doesn't kill the "vessel", it can only be done one at a time, it has limited up time, the vessel can be anyone including a caster, the person they resurrected is visually identical and they are not immortal. What's the difference between Mars and Gaara? The element they are wielding and some later plot development.
When villains atack a society were litteraly everyone(Asta does not count) can do pew pew magic...is like trying to shoot someone in a city were even a baby can afford a magnum .45. Dude...no matter how powerful you are...when everyone can have a canon on the tip of their fingers youll better think twice before going crazy. For some stupid reason Black Clover forgets about that topic when villains shows up.
My thoughts exactly. Sure, these people will be less prepared than a villain attacking them. But good luck going against THOUSANDS angry citizens whose houses you just burned. They have nothing to lose anymore
@@mahistv you are vastly overestimating the civilians magic.
Not really civilians are most of the time more like half blind and armed with nerf guns
Guns are equal magic is not that is a terrible comparison, civilians especially peasants have low magic if they had high magic compacity they would be magic knights it even explains this in the show and that people in the peasant realm have very low magic and that is why they are peasants
it legit explains this in the show
11:52 if the enemy can give magic knights trouble then the civilians are better off getting out the way. The series gave you the example of Nate’s grandpa in the beginning. This is not a reasonable complaint.
Read some historical literature, and see what happens when an enemy knight with his little squad comes to raid a big village. People won't just surrender their livelihood to a few schmucks. To an army, sure, but not to small group.
@@mahistvexcept these are MAGICAL enemies and it’s explained the common folk don’t have much mana. So whatever they do it would be like ant pellets
@@DanielHernandez-gx4khIf they were gonna die regardless, they might as well die fighting, wich would be the most predictable behaviour. In the most desperate situations, people try everything to survive, in black clover they just sit there. Mahis also made the very fair point that some of them could've AT LEAST tried to use their magic to get away somehow
@@DanielHernandez-gx4kh Yes, and that's a MAGICAL village.
Except: it's not a village, but the capital and the magic in people is more powerful the closer to the capital
11:00 This is one problem I have with Death Eaters in Harry Potter. Every adult in the Wizarding World is armed with a Glock and trained to use it. The attack on the Quidditch World Cup should have ended with all of the Death Eaters dead.
Exactly. Maybe at first people would have been caught by surprise, but that's about it. 90% of attendees studies Defense Against Dark Arts and should be able to defend themselves, especially when there are hundreds, if not thousands of them.
RIGHT?!
"Unforgivable Curses, I know. Well, *I WOULDN'T FORGIVE MYSELF* IF I JUST LET THEM KILL MY FAMILY!"
Animation errors from a weekly show and then compared to a seasonal or even longer show. Yea Demon Slayer animation better look great with the time between seasons. Not saying your point isnt valid, but you have to put that aspect into perspective instead of just saying it looks like crap.
As you said, BC has an insane amount of setup that presents a really good outlook for the series but your take that the other tropey things or previous complaints screw it up is just infuriating when you realize most shonen have the same problem. BC isnt played up to take itself seriously, in any way. Its a shonen, doing nothing more than trying to be a shonen.
Its one thing to not like something because it has no substance, but to immediately have a hypocritcal point afterwards by comparing it to other shows that makes the exact same mistake is nonsense.
Yami blows off Astas moment of deep thinking and chance for emotional growth for a gag.
Vigilante Dekus moment of VERY deep reconciliation is basically blown off by a *Bubble Bath*
Show has bad bits. Understandable, but trying to reinforce that by pointing out common problems doesnt really sell out for your point unless the point is targetting the genre as a whole instead of a singular show
Animation errors is one thing, but BC is doing it WAY to often, on top of changin it's stile mid conversation and generally poor quality.
Your point of MHA and BC is not right, in my opinion. Deku already went though all this before they even gotten into dorms, that's practically the reason why he came back is because he accepted help from others. While Asta only started to wonder as he was looking at dead Vetto, which was immediately interrupted by Yami.
Im surprised you didn't touch on how offensively awful the villains are. Up to the elves there is still an attempt to give them some backstory and motivation, but once devils start appearing, what little there was to them is completely dropped and the quality breaks through the lowest of rock bottoms. I have never seen characters that flat in any other manga. Their whole personality is "I'm evil. Because I am evil." and the good guys fight them because they're evil. It's not even the impactful kind of pure unjustified evil and cruelty of characters like the High Evolutionary or Mahito, it's just "Haha I'm a bad guy."
I didn't want to get into it because I'm very passionate about villains and it would have made the video twice as long)
bruh why would devils get a backstory
18:39 the plagiarism section holds no weight. Vague similarities does not equate to plagiarism.
What do you mean vague? A first quest that starts as something simple then turns into a life or death situations, that happens in a village separated by a bridge, where a hero of the village was brutally killed by the villain in front of everyone, followed by a battle with an ice users who create a mist around the area, finished my a shot of the grave overlooking the area at a sunset. Please give me an example where anything other than Naruto and BC have this subplot.
@@mahistv there’s no bridge involved in the black clover arc, the first mission becoming life or death unexpectedly is fairly common, Heath is nothing like Zabuza and Haku, and even though I am pretty sure in Black Clover it was a sunrise an arc ending with a grave is not uncommon for more sentimental series.
@@mahistvagain, those are extremely vague similarities, the first arc of black clover was introduce magna character and back story and the potential threat of villian in the future while naruto the first arc was to establish the cruelty of the Shinobi world , heath is completely different character than zabueza and haku and they had different motives , heath was trying to retrieve a magical stone from the village bc they weren't providing what he needed, he threatened to kill everyone, zabueza and haku were just carrying out random assassination , the could lead to fall of a country , the mist in bc was magic they were using to mask their activities in the village it wasn't even casted by heath it was casted by a random mage , the mist in naruto was just background design choice or u can add zabueza uses it to silently kill , the similarity btw haku and heath is that they use ice , there move sets aren't even similar the the only similarity is that they are just ice , and whats wrong with ending on a sunset
"Its not plagiarism because i dont want it to be"@arinzechukwuonyekwuluje2218
Honestly o love this guy he can both show the good and bad things about shows we like unlike so many people that will just hate the show or love it so it’s different impressive
Thank you, because both sides are important and focusing on just one is not fair
Remove “comprehensive” from the title and you’re good
Comprehensive - complete; including all or nearly all elements or aspects of something. I've said EVERTHING I had to say about BC and thus it's a comprehensive break down of why I dislike it.
let me explain what this shit is about
-First point , Luck is a fighting maniac but he got beated in his first fight , first reason to hate black clover
(luck literally beats the shit out of main villians god tier army all by himself in manga )
-bro says in vetto's battle , everyone tries to kill vetto but fails and yami takes the glory , what a mature reason to hate a show
( if thats the case than in t.o.p everyone tries to knock out jiren but fails and frieza pushes him in the end and despit goku's effort no 17 becomes mvp , by this logic we should also hate dragon ball )
-black clover have no power ups , they only gets spells at a specific time , they dont do any training , wow 💀
( this guy surely never read the manga , it was stated that some spells appear naturally and some are created by the user , one of the example is zora who creates different spells all by himself , even magna creates a spell called "soul chain death match" , yuno creates "neverland" and more )
-bro says asta anti magic is usefull for magical stuff but why is it used everytime 💀💀💀💀💀
( bro really lost his brain , obviously instead of using magical force to stop some stuff they would prefer easier solution which is anti magic )
- nobody notice asta five leaf grimiore
( asta himself didnt notice who is the owner of grimiore , how can someone else )
-asta didnt get praised for what he did
( all the captains and julius wanted asta to get more reward after elf arc even nozel who hates him , he just didnt get bcz he was on the way to prove that he isnt the devil servent , and in manga he really gets the rank equal to vice captain )
-why people dont use magic to protect themselves ?
( bro did you ever questioned on mha creators that why the citizens in mha verse dont protect themselves and use their quirks , obviously if i am a regular person i will not interfere in the job which is supposed to be done by military and police , plus most of the people dont have much amount of mana or combat spells to fight , you brat )
-bro really said that black clover is copying other bcz the character design is similar , some characters like mars are similar to someone else , i mean bro really think that their aint any similar personalities and character designs , there are many naruto panels that are similar to dragon ball , do mean we should hate naruto , just bcz someone made a similar stuff this means they are copying?
what a kid
the only thing which makes sense in this video is about animation , while the other stuff is just some random bullshit
bro didnt even read the whole black clover and decided to make a video by just watching elf arc.
- When? A few hundred chapters in? My problem is that he was set up as a strong character and then shown to take L after L.
- 100% mature, because he invalidated the entire suspense that was built during the whole arc.
- I didn't say that. Reason 1 - I'm frustrated with the "power-upping" because it happens when it's convenient, implying that power ups exist. Reason 2 - all spells received in the first 50 episodes were during combat. What else Am I supposed to think. Reason 3 - I even showed Noelle and Asta training... My point is that there is little relation between training and power-ups, because they just discover spells at the time of need. Or you mean to tell me Yuno got Sylph because he was training hard? No, he got it by chance.
- Again, you misunderstood my point. Asta SOLVES every problem, that's my issue, not the anti-magic.
- Yes, that's stupid. And saying Asta himself didn't notice is not an excuse, because he is not the sharpers tool in the shed.
- What? They do that all the time. Gentle's whole story is about him trying to help while being a civilian, once heroes went down, people started arming themselves and use their quirks, because they knew Allmight is not coming. Still, that doesn't excuse BC.
- It's not similar design, it's the EXACT same plot and even some dialogue.
@@mahistv your video proves that you havent read the manga not even watched the whole anime , you just watched elf arc and came up with illogical points
-you are saying that luck was shown as strong character but got beated
your whole point is invalid because he wasn't shown to be strong he was just a fighting maniac
fighting maniac doesnt mean the character is strong
in demon slayer inosuke was shown to be a fighting maniac but got bullied in literally the next fight
-just because yami ended the whole arc's suspense means that bc is trash ?
-you have literally no idea about black clover power system
some spells are created by nature while the rest are created by the user
you just watched 50 eps and made conclusions
in dark triad arc we literally see almost every one creating spells
-asta solving every problem means black clover is trash ?
in dragon ball goku solves every problem
in jjk before dying gojo was shown to be solving most of the matters
tanjiro solves every matter in ds
and its because he is the mc
-fools think that bc has similar plot because it has rivarly
in dragon ball vegeta and goku are rival to become the strongest
deku and bakugo are rival for becomeing no 1 hero
and more
people think that only naruto plot has rivalry and dreams to achieve something
shoto todoroki has literally same character desgin and back story like zuko from avatar the last airbender
gojo is kakashi
giyu has similar hairs like sasuke
bakugo has similar personality like vegeta
literally every anime has similarities
your points mean that you hate literally every anime
You shouldn't have to watch a whole series to have an opinion on it, 50 episodes is very generous and if the episodes after happen to be excellent or better quality, it doesn't matter because nobody wants to watch 50 episodes of poor writing to get to the "better parts" of a series.
And as for the criticism that he didn't read the manga, you shouldn't have to read the written version of a story to understand certain elements because reading the same story twice isn't for everyone.
Anime tropes are very common because they provide easy to understand character dynamics and story elements. The problem with them is that it makes stories predictable and so it's up to the writers to make the tropes unique or catered to the story they're trying to tell. Sure Goku and Vegeta is similar to Deku and Bakugo and Naruto and Suskue in that they are rivals headed towards the same goal, but their relationships and dynamics are different which makes each one interesting
@@leatfingies4290 i already debunked that his points are stupid
black clover has better writing than most of the new gens
+ some of his points really reqiures to watch most of the series
Please watch until the end of the elf plot it’s rly good literally had me on the edge of my seat
I'll read the manga when it comes out. I can't tolerate watching it
@@mahistv it's all ready out you can read online
Mahis, I'm 50/50 on your complaints. Some were good while others just didn't click with me.
1 big complaint that I don't agree with is how the studio adapted BC. Sure, it's pretty bad early on, but that's because they basically had no staff working on it so they had to outsource. Mind you, this is before Studio Pierrot started believing in Seasonal Anime's like Bleach TYBW. So instead of stopping the anime early on, they kept adapting it because of the money they got and the terrible japan producers telling them to keep it up. Taking that into mind, the anime isn't as bad when you think about it. Airing weekly while most animes air seasonal and the animation is even worse. Iceblade sorcerer for example.
I think you should watch the Black Clover movie and give a review of it. Ignore the anime for now and just watch the movie. I'm sure you won't be disappointed.
What do you mean started believing in seasonal anime? They did Naruto for decades like that! Also, it's totally fine to disagree, very rarely two opinions completely align. As for the movie, I don't understand if it's canon or not, but I will read the manga when it fully comes out and see if my opinion changes.
@@mahistv 1. Naruto suffers from a bunch of filler and animation, so that's not a good excuse tbf.
2. The movie is canon. And the manga has been surpassed the anime years ago. Many of chapters to read available right now.
This just feels like video, just talking down on black clover to bring other series up bc most his takes are invalid
You haven't seen the whole video then. Because I specifically go on a rant explaining why this show is good and had a lot of potential.
@@mahistv your right, I so use to ppl talking bullshit I just assume , I am very sorry
asta has lost multiple fights bro what?
Ok, I might not have been clear. Even when Asta himself is losing, others save the day, making the the whole fight a W(as seen with Vetto or Mars). BUT. He barely loses completely (I can only think of losing to Licht as a single decisive loss... maybe Vetto but he came back immediately and won). Take any other shonen character - Luffy, Ichigo, Naruto and so on. They regularly lose BADLY, so we are talking 70%ish percent win rate against 90+% of Asta.
@@mahistvAsta has a win percentsge smaller that 70%
@@mahistv see your problem is you want Asta to be like every other Shonen MC. None of your stances make sense. Your just bias. And ignorant. Rock Lee aint save Naruto fighting Kimmimaro? Kakashi aint save Naruto after fighting sasuke ? Kakashi aint save Naruto fighting Deidara when he went beserk? Minato aint save naruto when fighting pain? So see how your logic makes no sense. And if you read or watched the series. Asta gets WRECKED So many times. ACTUAL LOSES. Nobody saves him. But you wouldnt know because you watched this series trying to make it like Naruto , Bleach & One Piece. I can’t respect your opinion because there’s no validity. Everything you say is nonsense.
@@mahistv You have not read post ts have you? (I havent seen the video if you mentioned how far you got into bc)
@@mahistv To be fair: only Goku can afford losing completely, in worlds without Dragon Balls that can bring the MCs back to life, they need some way to prevent death. =)
😂😂😂😂 black clover took nothing from naruto these are just basic Shounen troupes
So... a first quest that starts as something simple then turns into a life or death situations, that happens in a village separated by a bridge, where a hero of the village was brutally killed by the villain in front of everyone, followed by a battle with an ice users who create a mist around the area, finished my a shot of the grave overlooking the area at a sunset, is a trope? Please enlighten me what other piece of fiction (not even anime) had this trope except for Naruto and Black Clover.
@@mahistvI mean, yeah, they are similar, but that shouldn't really be to BC's detriment since there's more to it when looked at deeper that differentiate it.
Plus, from an overall series standpoint, Naruto does this exact thing with DBZ. A upbeat main character dressed mainly in orange who was orphaned and has immense potential and multiple forms who goes on to marry the secondary female character of the series who is the daughter of a powerful figure and had feelings for the mc that they didn't pick up on at first; they then went on to have two kids with the oldest one being intended by the writers to become the new MC while also taking after their fathers. On the opposite side, they each have a dark-haired, less upbeat rival who didn't like the MC at first and eventually warms up them and survived a massacre, later taking a dark path in order to achieve their personal goals; they then go on to marry the main female character whose intelligence is one of their main traits and have just one kid who takes up mainly after their father (I'm not counting Bulla since I'm only talking about DBZ, not GT or Super).
I bet if you look close enough, you'll find similarities like these in almost any work of the same genre.
To be fair to BC's power system, it makes sense. The spells the characters learn depend solely on the user itself, hence why even relatives tend to wield different types of magic of the same element. Not to mention, the stary straight up tells you that there are 3 ways of growing. Either be born a noble, bettering your outlook on things (aka character development) and training. Does BC have issues, yes. BC has A LOT of issues, from the convenient situations, to the lack of character development, to the inconsistency of power levels work, to the inconsistent power creep, to the badly handled power cliffing.
I just don't like this system. To me it feels way to convenient and prevents me from seeing the power develop like with Naruto, Gon, Ichigo's mask and so on.
@@mahistv it didn't feel that way to me since it was set up that the user's personality and outlook also influenced the type of spells they'd receive. Dimension Slash did feel way too convenient, thought. That spell felt like it was just meant to get Yami out of his bind. The power system's not as good as Naruto' Bleach's, JJKs, but it makes sence.
Ps: I forgot to mention the fake out d3@ths. I think you mentioned stopping after episode 50. The fights get better, but the fake out d3@ths were too much even later on.
Vanica's fate magic was busted too
@@Planetdestroyer.138 yes and no. It depends on who she's using it on and how strong the foe is.
Ok love the series but I have to agree with a lot of your points except the vetto fight.
What did vetto represent despair him taking down every other character who fought him and increasing in power ,however asta points out that not one person who fought him gave up or gave into despair so although he beat them he never broke them no matter how many times he takes them down. When asta beat him he tried blowing everyone up but even then the hope asta inspired by being a magicless boy kept them init even before yami showed up.
Another thing I like about black clover how it’s less power of friendship and more power of team work cause asta alone even with his anti-magic wouldn’t stand a chance.him teaming up with both Vanessa and finral to take him down was one of the best fights in the series for this reason.
Ps I think you should make a video about how you would change black clover to be better as you stated how it had the possibility of being good 😊.
I see your point. I just wish Luck and Magna did something like Noelle, where they have visibly affected Vetto in some way.
As for how to improve, stick to what it had set up and stop trying to reinvent a wheel. Also, this secation might be a bit disingenuous because I've only seen 50 episodes, so I can't confidently say what I'd change, simply because I haven't seen everything.
@@mahistv that’s valid,so does that mean your planning on making a squeal to this video if you choose to watch another 50 episode and if this video does well.
@@mahistv if anything read the manga instead cause the animation is a problem
1. I love this analysis, however it seems like starting the show you already didn’t have love for it (Which would definitely obscure your view and shift your bias to being more critical of it)
2. Most issues about asta never losing and citizens having magic etc. don’t apply to the manga… at all. you’re being disingenuous by stating black clover sucks but outright refusing to finish the elf arc (which has been adapted for about 6 years now).
3. The plagiarism claims, I can understand but mostly in the manga. For the anime ones you’re taking some of the most basic tropes and overanalyzing them and comparing it to bigger shows
4. Animation claims, but comparing it to jjk just because they were both understaffed is heavily flawed. Despite the working conditions, mappa is still mappa and therefore their animation would definitely be leagues above black clover.
A lot of the “asspulls” you’re calling are also things that happen in Naruto or Bleach but you don’t point out, now you state this because they were slightly hinted but they were also hinted in Black Clover (e.x yuno’s OP 4 leaf grimoire) but you seem to overlook it.
Similar to fairy tail, black clover is a victim of being overhated and memed on, however you called out tons of good points. However, you may be a bit over analyzing and i feel like not even finishing black clover while disdaining it is something you shouldn’t do
1. You might be on to something, but I watch every show like that. Even RWBY that I absolutely love, I critique harshly when appropriate.
2. This is new information to me, if anime wasn't adapted well, I'm open to changing my opinion (that's why I'll read the manga when it fully comes out)
3. I'm sorry but I've never seen a character so close to Gaara. If it was rearranged a bit, fine. But if you look at the two shows back to back, it's almost identical. Same with their first quest and the 1st episode.
4. I've also compared it to Naruto and Bleach, which are done by the same studio. Black Clover is one of the most expensive amines on the planet and what they show me is absolutely unacceptable, even for a mid-range budget.
5. I agree that they happen, and my point is - 90% of power ups are asspulls in BC, where in Naruto's case, the only asspull I can think of is the very first episode, 2nd Kurama spirit from Minato, all the Hogoromo bullshit. For the most part, he had to learn Rasengan, Rasen-Shuriken, Senjutsu, Kurama control, which are his normal abilities that he constantly uses. Same thing with Ichigo. He had to learn Shikai, Bankai, even controlling the mask. Sure the mask itself is an asspull, but at least he wasn't even able to use it for the first several times.
I agree, I do overanalyze, but that's what I enjoy doing. As for voicing my thoughts while not finishing, this is the reason I couldn't finish and most of my point have nothing to do with what comes next.
23:44 you just didn’t understand the scene. Yami is being a great mentor here.
That's some ass-backwards mentorship where the "mentor" tells you not to think too hard... Compare that to Kakashi and Sasuke's dialogue after his roof squabble.
@@mahistv Different characters have a completely different conversation.
@@mahistvso first you're talking about how annoyed you are that it's even remotely like any other anime, and now you're wishing it was like another anime? Interesting.
Unrelated but are you monetized despite showing anime clips
Yeah, everything is fine, though I had to edit it a little bit
You have black cover way more time than I could! Couldn't make it through the first few episodes, and I tried TWICE as well!
Alr spoilers here but i can debunk the entire complaints you made and make it make sense
alr so pretty much in ch 331 of the manga it is revealed that the wizard king is the 4th zolgratis sibling and the devil host to the supreme devil of time, and all the ass pull and everything being so damn convient comes to play, he has rewinded time thousands of times over in order to ensure things go his way, asta getting 5 leaf grimoir? getting the 2nd sword? The elves ressurection? the defeat of lucifero? all can be explained as he needs everything in place for himself to be released and recreate the world in his way, he purposefully calculated everything all to his plan so that he could swoop in take what he needed and then he can do whatever, why doesnt he kill asta? how else would lucifero be defeated, whty would he ;et the wizard kind "die" it was the only option as he cant kill patry but he cant lose or let him get away other wise the gate would never open, all of everything in the series was all to his plan, its his calculated mastermind play that makes all of the conveniences and asspulls make sense he made sure they would happen. only plot hole is why did the mf who brought him luciferos heart not just kill the wounded asta and yuno? its so that lucious whould be killed by them to take his power and gain it for himself, call bullshi all you want, but this is some s tier writing and id put this in top 5 anime off all time jk te first 60 episodes exist and thats the only reason why it isnt, stick with it and you will get the best story ever
Watch Black Clover half asleep and you'll have a blast, it doesn't do well when critically observed.
So like Demon Slayer, eh?
@@mahistv Like Naruto Shippudden. It's not even a brain-off show. It's a force-your-brain-to-stand-perfectly-still show.
@Scott-xb1ku yea, Naruto Shippuden is a great example of don't look too deep into it, cause you will find some terrible things
Ok, clear problem but you're actually comparing Black Cloveer's and JJK's art, thats a huge problem, 1st Black Clover is older and JJK only just recently got that animation, season 1 animation was still worse than fight scenes in Black Clover. Plus think about it from a length perspective. Black Clover is 170 episodes long, do you think they would have jjk level animation for all of those, 2 years before JJK season 2 happened.
Plus don't even start with the movie, you could say Black Clover's movie had better animation than JJK's but you would defend it with, oh but its older.
Also the plagiarism part is a massive stretch. You mentioned there being a bridge, like thats important. The most you could call them out for is inspiration which then you could arrest JJK for Bleach cause its closer to being a carbon copy than Black Clover. If you looked at Kisuke and Gojo you would realize their personalities are 1 to 1 when Gojo isnt fighting, then it goes to Kenpachi. Don't even get me started on Aizen and Kenjaku. Also if your gonna bring up certain parts of the show being similar to other pieces of media, thats complete bs. You called out the black market saying they plagiarised it from Harry Potter. You're comparing an anime to a book with movies. Is your next point that Asta is a human so he plagiarised that from real life, Yuno has the wind spirit who is copying Tinker Bell. You could disect anything from any piece of media and call it out fkr being similar to something, even with the concept is simple and straightforward. What else is the Black Market gonna look like, its a secret alleyway in a town.
In other words, im coping cause Season 5 isnt out yet and your points were highkey mid and im realizing this isnt criticism, but just hating. W video tho, looks better than JJK season 1, cause Black Clover is in it.
I can accept the time difference argument, but BC has nothing on JJK S1. Just the fact the BC allows itself frequent animation errors and style changes between frames puts it into below average category. JJK is not flawless, but its consistently good and sometimes great. BC is consistently inconsistent and sometimes alright. Also, weekly or no weekly $140K an episode is way to expensive for such animation flops.
Also, it's not clear if movie is canon, so not sure if we should take it into account
@mahistv the movie being canon has nothing to do with the animation, and it's a movie, 99% of anime movies aren't canon.
I've seen scenes in BC that trump season 1 of BC, not the entire show cause its 170 episodes long, most movies have better animation cause they have bigger budgets due to only being an hour or 2. Bleach is a good example of inconsistent animation, Soul Society looked great considering its the first major arc then it goes back to being bad cause the big arc is over. Still 24 episodes compared to 50 in a season is a wild difference. Plus Black Clover is more than likely getting a season 5 this or next year cause of the movie's success, so let's see if it's still bad, tho you had some good points like Gaara, Magna's glasses, and gifs, but I usually consider how good animation is when it's at its best. I would compare the movie to season 2 but it's a bit unfair cause it's a movie, and I can't fully love the season 2 animation knowing the conditions of the workers, any animators would do a great job if they were worked to death.
@@mahistvthey decided to make it weekly last moment and they decided to put part of the team into Boruto. Also Yoshihara wanted the best to BC and did a lotof work to recruit animators. Search his interview for chapter 63
You do realize that black clover is a weekly production right? Plus MHA, JJK, Naruto, and Bleach had a lot of the same problems with animation inconsistently like BC. So you cannot be faulting BC when most of its pears have similar issues
Also BC has inspiration from Bleach and Berserk. You can’t call a show “plagiarized” when it’s just typical Shounen tropes. What you listed out in Naruto happened in Hunter x Hunter, MHA is new generation Naruto, BC and JJK have massive story elements from Bleach, and etc.
Naruto, especially Bleach, never had animation flops like that. Sure, there were a few fights in Naruto with "interesting" animation that looks similar to what we see here at times, but never to this extent. Also, please let me know what other shonen has a trope of "An underdog MC fails the exam everyone passes, gets involved with a villain which causes them to discover a power and save a person important to them, who says they've always believed in the MC".
@@mahistvYou will be incredibly surprised how much animation drop off those two had, especially during their later years. They are close to how Black Clover had with its production, as all 3 come from the same studio.
Black Clover’s beginning is very similar to how My Hero Academia began its story however MHA was able to subvert that trope in a small way to make it unique. Black Clover, like Demon Slayer are relish in using Big 3 tropes in both character writing and story beats.
Idk why you have such a problem with it, as all stories with heroes in existence can be traced by to the Mesopotamian story of Gilgamesh. No modern story is completely original and that’s totally okay! It’s how the writer(s) execute those stories that really matters.
This goes for many Shounen manga currently ongoing and in the past, newer manga like MHA, JJK, DS, BC, etc. were inspired by the Big 3 as those stories were inspired by Dragon Ball before them, and Dragon Ball by Astro Boy before it, I can go on but hopefully you get my point.
This is why I don’t like the “plagiarism” part of your video, authors are human, and they like to incorporate nods and take character beats and have a nod to their favorite works they read/watched growing up and put them together in their own stories. Again there is no original idea about what an author can put into their works, as my point earlier, someone has already written the idea before them, it’s how they are written and executed within those stories that ultimately matters.
black clover Fanboy here, thanks for being critical ❤
Thank YOU for being reasonable
I respect your opinion, and I loved the video. I do recommend you read the manga because it might provide more and let you enjoy the characters and the story more than the anime (cuz I too hate this anime, as they cut a lot of shit out and had very terrible animation up until it's ending, which is around the beginning of the second to last arcs in the manga), but if you feel the same as you did with the anime, that's fine too. Your opinion is wholly your own, and I can't make you love what I love.
I respect your response and maybe I'll even get manga a shot. Can't be that bad, only half the length of Naruto.
I hate these types of anime because they let enemies go in hopes that they can change but than said enemies don't. If you are gonna show idealistic and naive protagonist than let his naive ideal come true.
I'm 50/50 on this one
I mostly agree with everything said here. But you can't tell me that the whole devil denier -> devil believer wasn't good
I'm not sure what you are referring to, but I'll accept it
Clearly he didn't get balck clover magic system anti magic cant be used by those with magic. So why would they examine a guy with no magic and a grimorie which they can't use. Julius have an interest in his anti magic and examined his sword
Asta also made anti magic good, the swords are too heavy and not easy to wield. Wasn't much being outputted because of asta lack of understanding to use it.
with all due respect but:
-after watching only 50 episodes, you go too far in your assessment where most of these events are important later
- a copy of "Naruto", this is the worst argument and used too often. Most of these things can be taken from other series, myths, fairy tales (which is true). And the truth is that it is easiest to blame you because Naruto is popular. Same as with Dragon Ball where in Big3 you see copies or inspirations (if anyone sees it)
-The animation gets better with the number of episodes, but that's because the budget for the first episodes was smaller due to the not so popular manga
-As for spells in the anime, it is left unsaid, but spells are not something you can just invent. A grimoire is like a part of you that responds to emotions. A self-created spell can be practiced, but to come up with your own you need external help, e.g. runes (like Magna and Zora)
- Dude, if 50 episodes is not a fair enough try, I don't know what is.
- I challenge you to find me any piece of fiction that has these exact events. I've seen all major shonens, a bunch of smaller ones and none have the exact same scenery, order and characters as BC and Naruto.
- Again, I showed ep 67 as an example and it looked like shit.
- That's my point, you can't invent or create spells, you can only discover what's predetermined and you discover it whenever the plot decides that you need that spell, not when you have trained/gained enough experience to do so.
@@mahistv
1.anime is bad adaptacion thats why
2.one piece
3.still low budget its become more popular during elf arc
4.still they have to train to master them
OK I'm going to Update this through my watch now When it comes to the power system it's based off of character development or emotional growth there are things That allow a person to Develop new spells Either, Having a lot of magic power Using Different variety of spells essentially training and The other essentially If you're in a Certain situation You'll get a type of adrenaline boost that will allow you to develop a spell, Also having 1 page means a lot more than just you can't Unlock more spells It Means you're not trying to grow You're not trying to get stronger It means you have a block emotional or physical.
Punctuation. Please use it.
@@oyamampendu9467 Already done
I just don't like this system. Because it's a very fine line between OK and a completely ass-pull system. Black Clover falls under the latter, yes you can make an argument that when you overcome a struggle, you unlock more of your potential, but the fact that you unlocked it, doesn't meant that you can immediately use it. You still need to learn.
@@mahistv the System is based off of emotional and physical growth, Instances like noelle she already has the potential to Learn most of her spells It's simply the circumstances are Mostly awakened through emotional Circumstances or you Simply train Like she did at the beach You're not guaranteed to get results but you'll at least learn something that's what most Magic knights do
@@mahistvit’s not an ass pull as it works off of character development like they said for instance when gauche had learnt a reverse of a spell he already had where now instead of cloning himself he can clone others which he learnt how to do through what? You guessed it character development, in this instance being him learning to work with someone else. As for Noelle and could already use powerful water magic and had learnt how to maintain it which is how they got down to the seabed temple so her learning to use the water dragon makes sense
11:24 the peasant kids were boiling water. You want people with no combat experience to just start fighting when they have magic knights to fight for them.
Why is it either or? Run away while spilling water or setting them on fire... do something!
@@mahistv while everyone is evacuating is spilling water or setting fires really that useful.
@@mahistvnot everyone is as brave as u
@@mahistv well if a military threat ever shows up invading where you live we better see you throwing hands out there dawg lol.
@@death8156 bro is leaving in a dream world ,he thinks he is the mc of his own life to fight with bare hands against a tank.
I like how chill you are in the replies to your comments. Neat video.
Thank you, I may hate, but I'm not a hater)
Is it ok for other people such as myself to still like Black Clover, even after all you’ve said about it?
Of course. Whether you like something or not is purely subjective (opinion-based). I just think there are a few objective (factual) things wrong with this show like blatant plagiarism and bad animation
@@mahistv There is still a lot of things the show gets right. Is it perfect? No, but it is still a fun show to watch.
This is the third video I'm watching by you and it's the one that made me subscribe. 3 for 3 great audio and visuals plus you're RIGHT all the time. Keep doing you and you'll be bigger than the Cosmos Unim in Undead Unluck
Thank you and welcome. Not many people will say I'm right all the time after the last video, but it is what it is.
I agree with everything you said. I even had a lot of these thoughts while watching the show. However I finished it and was relatively entertained thru the whole show so idk.. They tricked me somehow.
Nothing wrong with liking it
Same here
Well I guess that if he read manga it would be worse
Only briefly just to see if there is much difference
Ill be fair, ive read all the way caught up on manga so I have a lot more to pull from. It gets better and fixes most of the aforementioned issues with time but the manga is definitely better as it is more consistent artistically and the pacing feels a bit better as well
I will read the manga eventually, so we shall see
Nah dude, the plagiarism section wasn’t it. All you did was give surface level nitpicks and ignore the context that give each of the scenes from the respective anime their own identity. During your comparison between the Saussy Village Arc and the Land of Waves Arc, you mentioned how they both contain a bridge, something that’s so insignificant in BC in comparison to Naruto since it was only included to give an idea of the setting and nothing more, to the point where I don’t know why you even mentioned it, you might as well have said that both arcs happen during the daytime.
As for your Gaara and Mars comparison, the emotionless character is an archetype, and that’s not even considering they’re emotionless for different reasons. Being similar due to the archetype should in no way be a reason to devalue Mars because it can be done with other characters, in fact, I’ll give an example: Goku and Naruto.
- Upbeat, cheerful character
- Wears Orange
- Used to live alone, but not anymore
- Is oblivious to romantic feelings
- Their love interests are daughters of powerful figures
- Both of their iconic moves are blue and were taught to them by perverted masters
- Both have animalistic transformations they struggle to control at first
- Both have access to multiple forms
- They’re both somewhat merciful to their enemies
- Both fight to be the strongest for the sake of their goals
- Both go on to have two kids
- They both have a rival who’s perceived as better than them
Does this mean that Naruto is bad too?
The difference what you just said about Goku/Naruto and my Mars/Gaara comparison is that you literally described superficial features, while I'm talking about that AND their plot. These two have identical, carbon copy story, which goes way beyond archetypes and tropes.
@@mahistvDude, how are you going to say I mention superficial things when two of the comparisons you made between Mars and Gaara are that they both have some attacks they can use while standing still and can pilot larger attacks? How is that less superficial than the fact that Goku and Naruto wear orange? And while we're on the topic of superficiality, during your comparison of the Land of Waves Arc and the Saussy Village Arc, you literally went out of your way to mention how they both have a bridge while fully knowing since you watched the episode that the bridge in BC was completely irrelevant. I smell hypocrisy.
Plus, did you even read the full list of comparisons? Goku/Naruto cheerfulness and mercy are NOT superficial features, they're core parts of their characters. How are you going to say Naruto's mercifulness is superficial, then go on to talk about Gaara, a character whose change of heart began because of Naruto's mercy and empathy? It's an odd move at best and a disingenuous one at worst.
i agree with the wasted world. so many anime does that, have a wonderful world, and just keep focusing in crap, undead unluck is the opposite, it uses its world so well.
But i will admit there is good moments in the show, when fin brother tried to kill him and the trio get in the way knowing the cost, mereoleona is an amazing and fun character, henry the castle keeper, and so many micro moments, the problem is the rest of the filling.
I fell like I couldn't get to the good moments because I just can't tolerate this show
My biggest problem is the wasted potential of Zagred (the first devil opponent). They spent an entire saga building him up only to defeat him then move on to more devils. Why not make him responsible for teaching the devil magic to people and start the next saga from there, with him being the actual final villain instead of Lucius? That would've carried more weight and made more sense. But no, let's just beat this guy and move on to stronger villains for absolutely no fucking reason.
Because he's a bum, and only a high class devil. To put that into perspective, you know can kill 50 high class devils, just by waving his hand
Yeah, I haven't gotten that far
When it comes to anime in general i can never call anime a copy of each other every thing has a inspiration so i don't think think black clover is bad i personally like it
I mean, inspiration is one thing, but there are too many similarities for my liking
@@mahistv Other manga have the same amount of similarities even the big 3 you just havent read the inspirations for those manga
Personally, i feel you. I started Black Clover and kinda sat through the first episodes because it had an interesting premise, though i played with the idea of stopping because the characters were mostly reduced to a single trait or two maybe and the action really wasn't too convincing to me. Then the elves (and most importantly, ma boi Rhya) got expanded on and i needed to know the answers. Though i did feel disappointed that nobody ever really tried talking to them or understand them in some way. They had such an amazing story but didn't get any recognition (as also seen in that burial scene). In a story that's about discrimination and prejudice, such a thing would have been necessary, and instead they were treated like your generic evil villain team. I stayed for their arc, and when it ended i realized that the only reason i kept watching was because i liked the elves but none of the other characters and ultimately stopped somewhere around epi 160. I actually did like the elves arc so much that i wanted to take inspiration from it and expand on it, further enhancing the themes of discrimination and false judgement with terrible consequences, and to write such a story i wanted to start BC again but i couldn't. Knowing the truth about the elves it only made me see the flaws of this show way better and feel too bad for what could have been that i stopped at like epi 10, not to mention that i still didn't like anyone besides Rhya (and Patolli maybe).
You watched way further than I expected
alternative name for black clover: anti-black people screaming
There do be some screaming though
I think its odd that you hate black clover yet have Meliodas on your banner.
Aka from the series known and widely slandered for its constant pedophilia.
Just saying.
Also its no wonder half the comments on this video are cooking you right now because you really didn't even try at all with this video
I've never heard that one about Meliodas, and I do agree that he's not behaving with Elizabeth properly when she doesn't remember him, I don't recall a single instance of him doing that to her until she grows up.
@@mahistv He canonically grooms her from a child and waits until she's 16 years old (Still a minor btw) to start groping her.
Bro Black Clover isn't the only anime that has arc structures as well as character and story concepts that other anime have, read or watch Saint Seiya and Yu Yu Hakusho then go and read or watch Bleach, it does the same thing you said.
Black Clover does when comparing Naruto and Black clovers first two arcs during the plagiarism section and Chainsaw man takes a lot of things from Jujutsu Kaisen and Dorohedoro, the thing you said about Black Clovers first and second arcs as well as other things you compared Black Clover with you can do with other anime and manga but that doesn't mean because they take from other shows they can't add their own unique ideas to what they took, it's funny that you said Black Clover takes from Fairy Tail, in the past people have called Fariy Tail a One Piece clone, I mean people have compared concepts and ideas that naruto has with Ninku, Inuyasha and Slam Dunk and Slam dunk isn't even a battle manga. People have also found things to compare Naruto with Hunter x Hunter and Yu Yu Hakusho
No other anime I know had as many similarities as Naruto and Black Clover. You say they all do but where are examples? Nothing wrong with taking concepts as I said, but this is pretty much copy paste
@@mahistv if you think that's the case then as I said read or watch Saint seiya and Yu yu hakusho then compare both to Bleach it will surprise you and read or watch Hunter x Hunter then watch Naruto you can compare arcs and concepts with them as well
@@mahistv Alot of Naruto arcs themes characters alot of it is inspired by yuyu hakusho hxh and other manga, the Chunin exam arc being heavily inspired by the Hunter Exam and Sasuke being a Kurapuka clone is the most obvious ones but there are so many you wont believe it
24:42 you should know Fuegoleon’s impact on Asta and Noelle carries throughout. There’s more royals that will be explored.
I understand. However, I can't look past this - a first quest that starts as something simple then turns into a life or death situation, that happens in a village separated by a bridge, where a hero of the village was brutally killed by the villain in front of everyone, followed by a battle with an ice users who create a mist around the area, finished my a shot of the grave overlooking the area at a sunset.
That's too many similarities, considering I don't know of any other story that has this subplot. No story is 100% original indeed, that's why I didn't put much emphasis on the "demon destroys our place and a hero had to sacrifice himself to save us". Again, Naruto did the same, but when I have a similar location, similar powers, similar villain behavior and a very similar conclusion (the grave scene), I have questions.
For resurrections, I was throwing shade at both Naruto and Black Clover.
Also, I'd disagree that "In a sense BC demands that you are familiar with shonen tropes", I say you should be pretty unfamiliar to enjoy it, because it will all look new and interesting.
Ah yes, fakeout death my old nemesis. Frankly thats also one of the main reasons I felt attack on titan was overhyped since season 2 or so.
Yeah... bane of my existence too.
Fuegolion does get a flame dragon salamander and forms a permanent arm of fire
I know, but still
Oh man this feels like the saddest most pedantic rant i've ever heard.
I thought i found some good stuff after i watched your demon slayer videos.
Pedant - a person who is excessively concerned with minor details and rules or with displaying academic learning. How is world-building, entire magic-system, battles in battle shonen and so on are a MINOR detail? Also, I'm talking about DS in the exact same way when I analyze it. Have you seen what I had to say on DS Corps?
Tbh i enjoy black clover more than jjk,
Don't know why you didn't like it,
I mean... I thought I explained it pretty well)
waiting for a new video is like waiting for a new chapter of dragon ball to drop
Damn... I'm trying. This one was very long)
@@mahistv can you do a review on Kobayashi dragon maid?
Even if it's a short
I want to hear your honest thoughts
Black Clover is one of those shows that I hate despite never watching it
I can say, I agree with the most of your points, but I still find that Black Clover overall is a good anime. 7.5/10.
Fair enough, if you like it, that's fine with me
I will say, I understand your reasoning a LOT more than most people who claim it's bad. My only issue with the series itself is the animation and certain inconsistencies here and there but for the most part, I still love it. I finished the anime back when the dub ended, watched the movie, and read some of the manga past that point and I'd say the main things that kept me coming back are the characters, the struggles they face, the messages, themes, and the world itself. Yes, there are plenty of stories like it that have been done before but Black Clover is one of the few that stuck with me on a personal level. It's not for everyone and it's not perfect, nothing is. But I do like how you're not blindly hating on it or calling it mid and you also had good things to say along with your criticisms.
I also liked it, but everytime I think about the show I notice how so many things don't make sense. And I like thinking about the shows I watch
@@joaquimbarbosa896 Yeah, that makes sense. If I like something, I tend to think about it a lot, myself. But it's usually focusing on parts that got me hyped, the openings, or the characters themselves.
Maybe my perspective will chance once I read the mange, but I need the whole thing out first
The question I asked is: how did I call this show my favorite anime. GODDAM!
You might have been inexperienced, misinformed or you just liked it
@@mahistv ok but you gotta admit, the op's are fire!
A "bad" Anime can also be you favorite Anime as long as you are enjoying it.
Bad doesn't mean that you can not enjoy an Anime and just because an Anime is well liked doesn't mean that this Anime is good.
A good anime tries to maximize its strengths and minimize its weaknesses. There isn't a flawless Animes, but Animes like Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood does this method really good.
I'm able to like it despite it's flaws but man does it have a lot of flaws.
I can respect that!
So a main character who is component and using his powers correctly is bad?
The other characters are there to be good characters and to support themselves, asta and the captains. They are not strong in their own right but together they can do a lot. Black bulls and mimosa has done a lot to me
i will say one of the biggest things i hate about the show is its power scaling that shi is so bad might just be the worse ive seen from any anime period
One target with everything I dislike - with receipts for each scene - and only halfway done
I'm not following...
Your Naruto comparison in the plagiarism part is exactly what I noticed as well, and when I brought it up to my friend who got me to watch Black Clover, he got mad and said Naruto is shit, which told me enough about his taste.
The thing is, people try to defend it by saying "its just a trope", "other shonen have similar plot", but there literally is no other piece of fiction that had these exact scenes
my favorite character is Gordon because he's not super annoying and his audio is super low, the funny part is that he's super wholesome and actually has good character development and his audio increases but everyone still brushes him off as creepy and his character is more of a gag which i think is a real shame.
They did him so dirty early on...
This is going to be fire 🗿🍿
Lets hope
Black clover is the anime I watch when I’m sleep deprived and can’t tell how bad the animation gets😂
Fair, to use it a white noise so to speak)
3 days late but i would like to point something out about your plagiarising point.(Please correct me if im wrong) First in the first episode the genin exam thing and the grimoire thing is very different imo. The genin exams qualifies them to be able to go on ninja missions and gives them the lowest rank. The grimoire ceremony thing is just giving them books to help them with their growth iirc (Again its been a minute so please correct me if im remembering incorrectly). Also i dont really watch fairy tale but i dont see how the black bulls hideout is the same as the fairy tale guild. Finally for the sharingan point the tomoe symbol is pretty popular in japan im pretty sure and the way they work is different @@mahistv
That in my opinion is Black Clover's only flaw and I can't fully blame the staff for it given how much the higher ups tried to sabotage to show for a shitter Naruto series in the form of Boruto (I hate Boruto not because its bad, which it is, but because it's existence ruined the black clover anime and potentially discontinued the anime all together)
i dont know what r u talking about the magic system is good(u just complained about something soo stupid here) asta is one of the best mc's to think that this mc made me change my life tells something about the character, asta lost alot of battles in the manga he lost alot and inside the anime also, the world building is good, the animation was bad until the spade arc cus they didnt care about bc until this arc and the plot twist inside the manga is one of the best(aizen lvl my opinion)
This is not even half of what I was talking about...
As for magic, I dislike that it's too convenient (people are getting whatever powers they need, whenever they need them) and that magic seems to be a part of the daily life of everyone, but once something happens, they all behave like it doesn't exist.
Asta barely lost a fight, because even when he does, he gets aided by his friends and powers through regardless of the obstacle, winning the battle anyway.
I disagree black clover is good
Fair, but hear my side too.
@@mahistv i Will.
Bell stopping time is even worse when you realize it completely goes against how magic works in BC since she's a Wind Spirit yet somehow she did a feat only Julius would be capable of and is never explained or brought up again. And she does this in her child form, making the powerscaling for Spirits weird since Salamander was OP when used by Midnight Sun Fauna but is garbage when Fuegoleon gets him even though Fuego should be on Yuno's level before he came an Elf based on how strong he got with Bell and Fuego being a noble too.
Wait, he never time stopped again? Man that's even more bullshit that I though
@@mahistv Neverland can stop the flow of Time Magic in the latest manga chapters but Bell never displays actual time stopping again after her debut in Black Clover.
@@KaiKrimson56 I think it was for foreshadowing
Chad, preach brother
Thank you, I'll do my best!
I love how everyone disagrees with you in the comments haha BC is a great anime but aye everyone has there opinions to each its own
100%. The world would have been very boring if we all had the same opinions) As long as we keep it civil, I'm all for it
@@mahistv i agree I didn’t mean any disrespect tho I’m subscribed to you & watch most of your content cause it’s good I’m just surprised you didn’t like black clover
11:15 just realized they all were running 😮
Yep...
Your comparisons of the main cast literally had me cackling and made my day. Ulquiorra on meth indeed 😂
Also, not to sound nitpicky, but Hinata is not a Senju...
Hinata and Mimosa are similar, Mimosa uses floral magic, she can heal. Hashirama Senju - can use floral magic and Tsunade (Senju) can heal. Thus, Hinata Senju. I originally wanted to call her "Hinata who studied under Tsunade" but that was too lengthy.
NGL I really loved the show when I first watched it and thought(and still think mostly nostalgia haven't rewatched) the elf revival arc was peak fiction. But after like a couple of years I continued watching the arcs after that arc and didn't enjoy it much. I really did feel that the writing wasn't good and only the action scenes were goo there were bland characters so takes away from the charm of the fights
Maybe you watched more shows in between and your taste got refined? I think BC is fine for a beginner, but not for a seasoned viewer.
@@mahistv true
A japanese legend once said. No one hate more than people who love anime they like
BC had a lot going for it, but most of it got wasted pretty quickly
I have been waiting for this video for months😂
Hope you weren't disappointed